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"Starmer has ordered apple to let the uk government apt on its users data. This will make everyone’s emails, texts photographs viewable. Another step too far surely?" *spy not apt! | |||
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"Welcome to Stasi Britain. Meanwhile Labour will carry on lecturing everyone else about democracy. Also just making everyone’s personal data more vulnerable to attack generally. Not something any government should be encouraging." Big brother will definitely be watching, reading and listening! | |||
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"This is nothing new. It stems from RIPA (Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000) which was actually introduced by the Blair government and then _actively_ pushed by every government (Tory and Labour) after that. It has been illegal for 25 years to tell people that the government has ordered you to disclose people’s encrypted secrets. You are not allowed to tell people you have been ordered to divulge the data - that even applies to junior employees telling their bosses what the government has ordered them to do! Breathe a word to your boss and you go to jail. For a long time. Like most technology scandals it has been almost completely ignored by the public at large. It is actually the Apples credit that someone has finally stood up and made a public decision to pull a product. The driver here is the intelligence services. The crime argument is just a red herring. The intelligence services want your data and they are going to get it one way or the other." Very interesting, thanks.  | |||
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"It would be interesting to see which other countries Apple isn’t able to offer Advanced Data Protection in. I presume that it’s still available in the US and EU. I suspect the UK is becoming an outlier in terms of government snooping. It’s also difficult to understand why the government practically thinks this will be of much use. There are plenty of other options available for encrypting data and criminals and terrorists will presumably just switch to those. That’s even assuming they are all using iCloud in the first place for their activities which is doubtful. I don’t use it for exactly this reason and I’ve got nothing to hide. I suspect that there is however an absolute mass of data on iCloud from UK Apple users generally that an authoritarian government might like to scour through." The UK is probably the outlier here but only because they are one of the few that actually have the capability for global data extraction. The US is the clear leader and the UKs data ability is one of the major factors that mean the US want to stay close to us. It wouldn’t surprise me if this move was actually being made public to show the US that the Uk is serious about maintaining its data capabilities ahead of the PMs trip to the Whitehouse this week. | |||
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"Another GB news thread" Yawn. This has been a lead news story on the BBC. | |||
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"Another GB news thread Yawn. This has been a lead news story on the BBC." Is the thread delivered in the same balance or context as the beeb? | |||
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"Another GB news thread Yawn. This has been a lead news story on the BBC. Is the thread delivered in the same balance or context as the beeb?" I've no idea wtf you're on about 🤣 | |||
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"Another GB news thread" Data privacy thread = Far Right! | |||
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"This is nothing new. It stems from RIPA (Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000) which was actually introduced by the Blair government and then _actively_ pushed by every government (Tory and Labour) after that. It has been illegal for 25 years to tell people that the government has ordered you to disclose people’s encrypted secrets. You are not allowed to tell people you have been ordered to divulge the data - that even applies to junior employees telling their bosses what the government has ordered them to do! Breathe a word to your boss and you go to jail. For a long time. Like most technology scandals it has been almost completely ignored by the public at large. It is actually the Apples credit that someone has finally stood up and made a public decision to pull a product. The driver here is the intelligence services. The crime argument is just a red herring. The intelligence services want your data and they are going to get it one way or the other." Yes, I remember the ripa thing. Fascinating post, very enlightening. | |||
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"Another GB news thread Yawn. This has been a lead news story on the BBC. Is the thread delivered in the same balance or context as the beeb?" Are you suggesting that I have some sort of right wing agenda by starting this thread? | |||
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"Another GB news thread Yawn. This has been a lead news story on the BBC. Is the thread delivered in the same balance or context as the beeb? Are you suggesting that I have some sort of right wing agenda by starting this thread? " I don't know what political standpoint you prescribe to, similarly you don't know how I think politically. What I do see is a thread made of false statements and/or no context. Hence it's similar to something I'd expect to from see GB news 🤷♂️ | |||
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"You can be sure it's coming to android and Facebook soon. I expect government agencies will still need a court order before they an access someone's messages though I haven't read the detail yet." This is why this is a GB news thread, people have no clue what they're getting mad about but because it's in the "news", it's an excuse to grab the pitchforks 🤦♂️ | |||
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"Has anyone got the balls to admit they voted for these clowns? British people are a bunch of sheep, we deserve everything we get from these commie fucks.. they say jump we say how hi.." You need to start understanding what you're talking about before calling people clowns. I'm guessing you won't though | |||
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"You can be sure it's coming to android and Facebook soon. I expect government agencies will still need a court order before they an access someone's messages though I haven't read the detail yet. This is why this is a GB news thread, people have no clue what they're getting mad about but because it's in the "news", it's an excuse to grab the pitchforks 🤦♂️" If you read the thread you will see I explain it. Read up on RIPA and then decide if you are so sanguine about it. | |||
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"You can be sure it's coming to android and Facebook soon. I expect government agencies will still need a court order before they an access someone's messages though I haven't read the detail yet. This is why this is a GB news thread, people have no clue what they're getting mad about but because it's in the "news", it's an excuse to grab the pitchforks 🤦♂️" Anonymous bloke on a swingers website says people shouldn’t get uptight about their personal data and privacy. | |||
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"Another GB news thread Yawn. This has been a lead news story on the BBC. Is the thread delivered in the same balance or context as the beeb? Are you suggesting that I have some sort of right wing agenda by starting this thread? I don't know what political standpoint you prescribe to, similarly you don't know how I think politically. What I do see is a thread made of false statements and/or no context. Hence it's similar to something I'd expect to from see GB news 🤷♂️" If you want some context then here's your context. This isn't some mundane slop from GB news, this is some actual news. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgj54eq4vejo https://youtu.be/AQbKULlZAOA?si=g-vzDJ88H6Gog5r9 | |||
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"Another GB news thread Yawn. This has been a lead news story on the BBC. Is the thread delivered in the same balance or context as the beeb? Are you suggesting that I have some sort of right wing agenda by starting this thread? I don't know what political standpoint you prescribe to, similarly you don't know how I think politically. What I do see is a thread made of false statements and/or no context. Hence it's similar to something I'd expect to from see GB news 🤷♂️" What are the false statements? | |||
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"Interesting article on this topic in the Business section of today’s Telegraph (“Cooper’s war against Apple is already backfiring”). Apparently two Democrat and Republican lawmakers makers have written to Tulsi Gabbard complaining about the UK’s move. The general thrust of the article is that this situation won’t stand, and the US will put the UK under pressure to withdraw the order that has caused Apple to pull its ADP from the UK. Looks like some amateurish overreach from the Labour government that is harming UK data security and making the UK seem business unfriendly as well as out of sync with the rest of the Western world. But well done GB News for breaking this global story!" I saw it on the BBC. Why does everyone think it’s a GB news story? | |||
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"Has anyone got the balls to admit they voted for these clowns? British people are a bunch of sheep, we deserve everything we get from these commie fucks.. they say jump we say how hi.. You need to start understanding what you're talking about before calling people clowns. I'm guessing you won't though " You'll be one of the clowns I'm guessing | |||
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"Interesting article on this topic in the Business section of today’s Telegraph (“Cooper’s war against Apple is already backfiring”). Apparently two Democrat and Republican lawmakers makers have written to Tulsi Gabbard complaining about the UK’s move. The general thrust of the article is that this situation won’t stand, and the US will put the UK under pressure to withdraw the order that has caused Apple to pull its ADP from the UK. Looks like some amateurish overreach from the Labour government that is harming UK data security and making the UK seem business unfriendly as well as out of sync with the rest of the Western world. But well done GB News for breaking this global story! I saw it on the BBC. Why does everyone think it’s a GB news story?" It's their way of saying "fake news" without sounding like big don First you deny it's real Then you accept it's real then say it's bot a big deal Then you just call people conspiracy theorist's Standard response to news they don't like | |||
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"Interesting article on this topic in the Business section of today’s Telegraph (“Cooper’s war against Apple is already backfiring”). Apparently two Democrat and Republican lawmakers makers have written to Tulsi Gabbard complaining about the UK’s move. The general thrust of the article is that this situation won’t stand, and the US will put the UK under pressure to withdraw the order that has caused Apple to pull its ADP from the UK. Looks like some amateurish overreach from the Labour government that is harming UK data security and making the UK seem business unfriendly as well as out of sync with the rest of the Western world. But well done GB News for breaking this global story! I saw it on the BBC. Why does everyone think it’s a GB news story?" When I look at GB website the lead stories are almost same as BBC or ITV. Only exceptions are the grooming gang trials which the other media avoid for some reason. | |||
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"Interesting article on this topic in the Business section of today’s Telegraph (“Cooper’s war against Apple is already backfiring”). Apparently two Democrat and Republican lawmakers makers have written to Tulsi Gabbard complaining about the UK’s move. The general thrust of the article is that this situation won’t stand, and the US will put the UK under pressure to withdraw the order that has caused Apple to pull its ADP from the UK. Looks like some amateurish overreach from the Labour government that is harming UK data security and making the UK seem business unfriendly as well as out of sync with the rest of the Western world. But well done GB News for breaking this global story! I saw it on the BBC. Why does everyone think it’s a GB news story?" Someone on this thread said it was a GB News story. I didn’t see it there myself. There seem to be a lot of people who watch GB News because it annoys them. | |||
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