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"USA will take over Gaza Strip, and we will own it, and make a job of it clearing all the dangerous weapons and bombs from the site. Level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings, create economic development that will supply a limited number of jobs and housing for the people of the area. Developing it to the rivieria of the Middle East. I see a long term ownership position. I see bringing stability to that part of the Middle East and maybe the entire middle east. Everybody I’ve spoken to loves the idea of the United States owning that piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs and creating a magnificent area that nobody can see because all they see is death and destruction. " Whilst at the same time evicting the previous owners of the properties a make it a playground for the rich who can afford to live there. With the previous owners pushed out and feeling resentful about this. What a brilliant idea for resolving a long running conflict replacing one oppressor with another. | |||
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"I'm sure "Trump's plan" kind of spits in the face of international law. A part of me thinks that this was always the endgame for this "conflict"." Absolutely waterside apartments worth hundreds of millions and gateway from Israel. | |||
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"Great move by the president! That will fuck those terrorist scumbags Hamas up.. I stand with Israel and the president on this one. I’m sure the lefty losers with their Palestinian flags and masked faces will be out in force with that dwarf tosser mayor of London giving it the large one." My history on Middle East and its land ownership is not good but this is displacement of 2 million people by force, followed by theft of their sovereign territory. | |||
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"Great move by the president! That will fuck those terrorist scumbags Hamas up.. I stand with Israel and the president on this one. I’m sure the lefty losers with their Palestinian flags and masked faces will be out in force with that dwarf tosser mayor of London giving it the large one." So how about we flatten your house confiscate the land it sits on and forcibly go and make you and your family live in Dudley never to be allowed to return. (Apologies to anyone who lives in Dudley)  | |||
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"USA will take over Gaza Strip, and we will own it, and make a job of it clearing all the dangerous weapons and bombs from the site. Level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings, create economic development that will supply a limited number of jobs and housing for the people of the area. Developing it to the rivieria of the Middle East. I see a long term ownership position. I see bringing stability to that part of the Middle East and maybe the entire middle east. Everybody I’ve spoken to loves the idea of the United States owning that piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs and creating a magnificent area that nobody can see because all they see is death and destruction. " So basically a big Trump plaza entertainment complex complete with arena at one end complete with a huge army/naval base 
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"USA will take over Gaza Strip, and we will own it, and make a job of it clearing all the dangerous weapons and bombs from the site. Level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings, create economic development that will supply a limited number of jobs and housing for the people of the area. Developing it to the rivieria of the Middle East. I see a long term ownership position. I see bringing stability to that part of the Middle East and maybe the entire middle east. Everybody I’ve spoken to loves the idea of the United States owning that piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs and creating a magnificent area that nobody can see because all they see is death and destruction. So basically a big Trump plaza entertainment complex complete with arena at one end complete with a huge army/naval base
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"The Atlantic City of the Med. Trump casinos and hotels everywhere. This is a very strange idea. " Is it worse than terrorist tunnels everywhere? | |||
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"The Atlantic City of the Med. Trump casinos and hotels everywhere. This is a very strange idea. Is it worse than terrorist tunnels everywhere?" I mean there is the potential for them to become a tourist attraction. Old Donny could be thinking of the merch. | |||
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"What will be the international reaction to Trumps announcement today. " In the NATO countries, it will be muted. None of our leaders have the spine to call him out on anything he says or does. As for the UK, specifically, Starmer and Lammy wouldn't even back Canada up - and they remain unperturbed by the slaughter of Palestinian women and children in Gaza. So, no reaction here. Just "good men" doing nothing. | |||
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Bold move and one clearly not going to fly, nor I would suggest was it intended to.
However, it will certainly focus the minds of the Palestinians and Hamas in the coming months to get phase 3 agreed and started before the threat of a US takeover.
He has changed the narrative, and introduced a new pressure. Politics who would have thought it..... | |||
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"Anyone who thinks it's not such a bad idea, it could be an improvement, are clearly not bothered about the rule of law. Obviously, neither are Trump and Netanyahu. But for those of you who do think it's practical and breaking laws you expect everyone else to uphold is just fine; please, tell us how you see it being achieved - and the consequences flowing from it." Exactly this
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"Anyone who thinks it's not such a bad idea, it could be an improvement, are clearly not bothered about the rule of law. Obviously, neither are Trump and Netanyahu. But for those of you who do think it's practical and breaking laws you expect everyone else to uphold is just fine; please, tell us how you see it being achieved - and the consequences flowing from it. Exactly this
Anyone supporting this is morally bankrupt and have no right to criticise any other countries affairs or actions in the world "I think you might be looking at this through the eyes of a bewildered media, who will push the Trump message harder and faster for clicks and attention, it has worked wonderfully in here.. The idea of the US owning Gaza is enough to force the Palestinians, Hamas, Egypt, Jordan, Iran and many others to fix issues, rather than create them. Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them
Think about it, the US haven't got the cash, time, or internal appetite and Trump knows that, he has pulled the strings to get things moving.
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"I think you might be looking at this through the eyes of a bewildered media, who will push the Trump message harder and faster for clicks and attention, it has worked wonderfully in here.. The idea of the US owning Gaza is enough to force the Palestinians, Hamas, Egypt, Jordan, Iran and many others to fix issues, rather than create them. Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them
Think about it, the US haven't got the cash, time, or internal appetite and Trump knows that, he has pulled the strings to get things moving.
"I'm looking at it from the point of view of the United States and Israel's contempt for international law and the message that sends actual dictatorships. How is it that you argue his announcement will "force the Palestinians, Hamas, Egypt, Jordan, Iran and many others to fix issues, rather than create them", then go on to say "Think about it, the US haven't got the cash, time, or internal appetite and Trump knows that". Do you think they don't know that? I don't think he's got anything moving, or that he is aware - at any meaningful level - of the issues involved; certainly not the practicalities. Clearly, you do. Not everyone is keen to grant him as much credit. | |||
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"I think you might be looking at this through the eyes of a bewildered media, who will push the Trump message harder and faster for clicks and attention, it has worked wonderfully in here.. The idea of the US owning Gaza is enough to force the Palestinians, Hamas, Egypt, Jordan, Iran and many others to fix issues, rather than create them. Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them
Think about it, the US haven't got the cash, time, or internal appetite and Trump knows that, he has pulled the strings to get things moving.
I'm looking at it from the point of view of the United States and Israel's contempt for international law and the message that sends actual dictatorships.
How is it that you argue his announcement will "force the Palestinians, Hamas, Egypt, Jordan, Iran and many others to fix issues, rather than create them", then go on to say "Think about it, the US haven't got the cash, time, or internal appetite and Trump knows that". Do you think they don't know that?
I don't think he's got anything moving, or that he is aware - at any meaningful level - of the issues involved; certainly not the practicalities.
Clearly, you do. Not everyone is keen to grant him as much credit."Exactly and that is why he can play people like a fiddle, people are to preoccupied in bringing him down, and discrediting him to think beyond his literal words. The part you quoted me on ref; then go on to say "Think about it, the US haven't got the cash, time, or internal appetite and Trump knows that". You said; Do you think they don't know that? You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" | |||
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"Ok let's run with this for a moment. Imagine everyone says "yeah this is a great idea let's do it" Where are they going to house an entire displaced nation, maybe that's why he's eyeing up Greenland? Next the logistics of moving all of these people would be immense. Next the expense involved would be ENORMOUS like hundreds of billions huge, I can't see the American people saying " yeah fuck it use our tax dollars we don't care, we are loaded" It's the craziest thing I have heard." Of course it is madness, but people believe it can happen because of Trump, the media revel in it, the Trump haters are livid. The whole world appears to believe it, that is powerful bargaining position to be starting from  | |||
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"Ok let's run with this for a moment. Imagine everyone says "yeah this is a great idea let's do it" Where are they going to house an entire displaced nation, maybe that's why he's eyeing up Greenland? Next the logistics of moving all of these people would be immense. Next the expense involved would be ENORMOUS like hundreds of billions huge, I can't see the American people saying " yeah fuck it use our tax dollars we don't care, we are loaded" It's the craziest thing I have heard." Indeed. The real problem is that for the "leader of the free world" to be coming out with such nonsense, does nothing to solve the problem, damages his credibility as an ally and encourages the opponents of rules based democratic order. It does make you wonder what he's going to say next, just to get attention. Maybe he could offer the Falklands to Argentina? | |||
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"Depressing but I was kinda expecting such pussy footing to Netanyahu. I wonder how all the pro-Palestine people who voted for Trump over Harris, due to her pro-conflict comments, feel now... " the pro palestine people mainly didnt vote full stop, was a tiny minority who gave trump yhere vote the others either didnt vote or voted for 3rd party candidates | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" " Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂" You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. "No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters. If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"? | |||
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"Is he actually serious? If he is, other than Netanyahu, who will be cheering him on?" His brain dead followers. | |||
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"The more territory the Israelis or Americans control in the Middle East, the more peaceful it will become. People living in extremist-run Islamic nations will see how these areas thrive and want some of it. Against the US and Israel, the only chance they'll have to improve their lives will be through peaceful measures, not the violence that currently exists between them. " For balance, the US is the most unequal high-income economy in the world, with wealth inequality rising. The top ten percent of American families controlled nearly 70 percent of the wealth in the US in 2022. Over the last fifty years, the poverty rate in the US has remained stagnant. I remain to be convinced how this will work out for homeless penniless gazans. | |||
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"Take Trump out of the situation, the idea isn't such a bad one, Gaza before was overcrowded and not pretty sight. Whoever the architects involved didn't like character and Arabic building concepts. Most of it looked like 60's block building quite frankly shit. It would be nice to see Arabic style villas their after the war. The one good thing came from WWII factories and housing waere rebuilt. Germany actually came out on top effectively, after they became an industrial economic powerhouse ironically. Britain did them a favour by literally blowing the crap out of them. Auf wiedersen pet. " Israel and America will never allow Palestinians to prosper, whilst most Germans disassociated themselves in public with the Nazi's and as a society they put in place structures and laws to prohibit them post war there's no way will Hamas and Iran give up their hold on Gaza to allow them to develop as an independent state even if Israel accepts it's the only way forward.. | |||
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"The more territory the Israelis or Americans control in the Middle East, the more peaceful it will become. People living in extremist-run Islamic nations will see how these areas thrive and want some of it. Against the US and Israel, the only chance they'll have to improve their lives will be through peaceful measures, not the violence that currently exists between them. For balance, the US is the most unequal high-income economy in the world, with wealth inequality rising. The top ten percent of American families controlled nearly 70 percent of the wealth in the US in 2022. Over the last fifty years, the poverty rate in the US has remained stagnant. I remain to be convinced how this will work out for homeless penniless gazans. " Wealthy Americans are high-maintenance people. I would imagine there will be many jobs needing to be filled by local Gazans. All they need to do is not slaughter or behead the people attached to the hands that feed them. This will be a massive culture change for most of them, but that's a good kind of progress. | |||
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"Ok let's run with this for a moment. Imagine everyone says "yeah this is a great idea let's do it" Where are they going to house an entire displaced nation, maybe that's why he's eyeing up Greenland? Next the logistics of moving all of these people would be immense. Next the expense involved would be ENORMOUS like hundreds of billions huge, I can't see the American people saying " yeah fuck it use our tax dollars we don't care, we are loaded" It's the craziest thing I have heard." Yes I agree it is crazy. The American taxpayer has given billions in aid to a terrorist organisation to flatten huge areas. Now the terrorists are saying the only option is for Gazans to be removed, something netenyahu has been terrorising the Gazans for years to do, so sometimes terrorism does work. The best place for the palistinians is Israel (their original homeland for the majority) There's plenty of room there. | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?"I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer. He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would. Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have. Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground. Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did. There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion.... | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
"Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies? Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale. Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am, Mrs x | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x"Did they move the Iraqis to another country ? | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x"so are you supporting this idea of trump's let's call it what it is ethnic cleansing. | |||
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"Can we just call it what this is… and then if you want to be on the “right side” of history and argue your point, then away you go! An American president proposed Ethnic cleansing as a solution…… Have at it! " Hey y'all voted him in  | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x so are you supporting this idea of trump's let's call it what it is ethnic cleansing."Didn't say i supported anything, just asked another poster a question, does that answer your question? Mrs x | |||
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No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x"I'm guessing the rebuild would be more or less like that, but the problem with Gaza is nobody is going to invest in its current form of Hamas control. I think what Trump was alluding to is move out the Palestinians, and get rebuilding without the worry of Hamas. The problem that would arise from this, is neighbouring countries simply do not get on with the Palestinians and will not have them in their countries. It is interesting that people keep calling out ethnic cleansing, it would only be ethnic cleansing if they did not volunteer to leave, then it would not be illegal to temporarily accommodate while the area was rebuilt. Would the average Palestinian volunteer to move out and then come back to a new home, not a chance, the locals who stayed would make sure it was not a place of welcome to return to, I'm sure. There are more things going against this idea than going for it, namely the Palestinians. | |||
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No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x so are you supporting this idea of trump's let's call it what it is ethnic cleansing.Didn't say i supported anything, just asked another poster a question, does that answer your question?
Mrs x"and I asked if you support this idea especially as in so many of your other comments on other posts you do come across as very pro Israeli over Gaza in my opinion. | |||
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"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. " You are going to think I’m being argumentative, but I assure you I’m not. Simple question, why would a 2 state solution work. I can’t see it working, I can’t see how peace would be maintained I can see it getting worse and the potential overflow of Palestinians leaving for neighbouring countries should it go wrong would cause a problem larger than the one today. Have I got that wrong? | |||
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I think it's been the acceptable potential solution regionally plus the UN and that many European countries will get behind but the sticking point is the right in Israel and the states..
It could be a bit like the GFA, not perfect but far preferable to more death and destruction plus in time a society gets used to living in peace and the likes of the extremists on both sides become less relevant..
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"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. You are going to think I’m being argumentative, but I assure you I’m not. Simple question, why would a 2 state solution work. I can’t see it working, I can’t see how peace would be maintained I can see it getting worse and the potential overflow of Palestinians leaving for neighbouring countries should it go wrong would cause a problem larger than the one today. Have I got that wrong? You??? Na..
I think it's been the acceptable potential solution regionally plus the UN and that many European countries will get behind but the sticking point is the right in Israel and the states..
It could be a bit like the GFA, not perfect but far preferable to more death and destruction plus in time a society gets used to living in peace and the likes of the extremists on both sides become less relevant..
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This in my opinion goes beyond the troubles and the GFA.
Who is the Palestinian spokesperson, who rules the whole, I can see that becoming a nightmare if that spills over.
There could be steps towards that, but I’m not jumping on the bandwagon of a 2 state solution because it is better than nothing, or what is there today, if it has the potential to become more volatile.
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x so are you supporting this idea of trump's let's call it what it is ethnic cleansing.Didn't say i supported anything, just asked another poster a question, does that answer your question?
Mrs x and I asked if you support this idea especially as in so many of your other comments on other posts you do come across as very pro Israeli over Gaza in my opinion."See that's the problem, I'm not necessarily pro Israeli but I am vehemently anti terrorist. You are welcome to your opinion though, Mrs x | |||
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"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. You are going to think I’m being argumentative, but I assure you I’m not. Simple question, why would a 2 state solution work. I can’t see it working, I can’t see how peace would be maintained I can see it getting worse and the potential overflow of Palestinians leaving for neighbouring countries should it go wrong would cause a problem larger than the one today. Have I got that wrong? You??? Na..
I think it's been the acceptable potential solution regionally plus the UN and that many European countries will get behind but the sticking point is the right in Israel and the states..
It could be a bit like the GFA, not perfect but far preferable to more death and destruction plus in time a society gets used to living in peace and the likes of the extremists on both sides become less relevant..
Moi
This in my opinion goes beyond the troubles and the GFA.
Who is the Palestinian spokesperson, who rules the whole, I can see that becoming a nightmare if that spills over.
There could be steps towards that, but I’m not jumping on the bandwagon of a 2 state solution because it is better than nothing, or what is there today, if it has the potential to become more volatile.
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x so are you supporting this idea of trump's let's call it what it is ethnic cleansing.Didn't say i supported anything, just asked another poster a question, does that answer your question?
Mrs x and I asked if you support this idea especially as in so many of your other comments on other posts you do come across as very pro Israeli over Gaza in my opinion.See that's the problem, I'm not necessarily pro Israeli but I am vehemently anti terrorist. You are welcome to your opinion though,
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"The Atlantic City of the Med. Trump casinos and hotels everywhere. This is a very strange idea. " Not to a pathological sociopath who might have suggested it. Bomb, flatten, displace, rebuild. Watch the moolah flow in. Pat on back. Job done. | |||
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"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. You are going to think I’m being argumentative, but I assure you I’m not. Simple question, why would a 2 state solution work. I can’t see it working, I can’t see how peace would be maintained I can see it getting worse and the potential overflow of Palestinians leaving for neighbouring countries should it go wrong would cause a problem larger than the one today. Have I got that wrong? You??? Na..
I think it's been the acceptable potential solution regionally plus the UN and that many European countries will get behind but the sticking point is the right in Israel and the states..
It could be a bit like the GFA, not perfect but far preferable to more death and destruction plus in time a society gets used to living in peace and the likes of the extremists on both sides become less relevant..
Moi
This in my opinion goes beyond the troubles and the GFA.
Who is the Palestinian spokesperson, who rules the whole, I can see that becoming a nightmare if that spills over.
There could be steps towards that, but I’m not jumping on the bandwagon of a 2 state solution because it is better than nothing, or what is there today, if it has the potential to become more volatile.
It's not an easy solution, I don't think many people believe such a thing exists..
But certainly the status quo and the never ending cycle of violence and hatred can't continue.."Agreed
Trump accelerated the hostage releases, and while his Gaza takeover idea seems far fetched, the more I think about it, the more it feels like the real solution hasn’t even hit the table yet.
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x so are you supporting this idea of trump's let's call it what it is ethnic cleansing.Didn't say i supported anything, just asked another poster a question, does that answer your question?
Mrs x and I asked if you support this idea especially as in so many of your other comments on other posts you do come across as very pro Israeli over Gaza in my opinion.See that's the problem, I'm not necessarily pro Israeli but I am vehemently anti terrorist. You are welcome to your opinion though,
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If your anti terrorist then you would be against what netenyahu and the Zionist terrorists have done and I don't see that from you "Which Zionist terrorists are you talking about this time? Mrs x | |||
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" The sheer amount of faux outrage that spins out of these discussions doesn’t help either. Trump divides opinion, but the way people let their emotions override rational thinking is astonishing 🤷🏼♂️" Objecting to the ethnic cleansing of 2 million people is "faux outrage"? Guess it's easier not to let your emotions influence your thinking when you don't have any other than hatred. | |||
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" The sheer amount of faux outrage that spins out of these discussions doesn’t help either. Trump divides opinion, but the way people let their emotions override rational thinking is astonishing 🤷🏼♂️ Objecting to the ethnic cleansing of 2 million people is "faux outrage"? Guess it's easier not to let your emotions influence your thinking when you don't have any other than hatred. " I think you need to put my comment in context of its intended use. It is bad form to take a snippet and add your spin to it. For reference: These discussions = about Trump, all trump discussions. Faux outrage = The overuse of emotional, exaggerated rhetoric, long rants filled with words like ‘narcissist, sociopath, psychopath’ all in one sentence. As for ethnic cleansing, I addressed that in this thread, so I'm not sure why you have considered me to be supporting such a thing? | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x so are you supporting this idea of trump's let's call it what it is ethnic cleansing.Didn't say i supported anything, just asked another poster a question, does that answer your question?
Mrs x and I asked if you support this idea especially as in so many of your other comments on other posts you do come across as very pro Israeli over Gaza in my opinion.See that's the problem, I'm not necessarily pro Israeli but I am vehemently anti terrorist. You are welcome to your opinion though,
Mrs x
If your anti terrorist then you would be against what netenyahu and the Zionist terrorists have done and I don't see that from you Which Zionist terrorists are you talking about this time?
Mrs x"Interesting that you've phrased it in that way, possibly to attempt to diminish my previous post, but I'll ignore that. The same Zionist terror organisation that has -forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes in the name of religion using violence - persued the attempt to clear Gaza through terrorism including the mass destruction of Gaza - killed foreign aid workers - had arrest warrants issued to answer for their actions - openly declared a policy of declaring all Palestinians collectively responsible declaring them all "animals" - the Jews that are just as horrified at what the Zionists are doing in their name, including haulocaust survivors having their suffering used as an excuse by Zionists to commit these atrocities the jews you mocked and scoffed at in previous posts I submitted because they're against Zionism (and I doubt your even Jewish so don't know what how or where you feel you have the right to mock Jews in the first place! - an antisemetic act) - the Zionism that is allowed to act above international law and is assisted by American taxpayers to commit illegal actions - the same Zionists that are openly supporting and encouraging the ethnic cleansing of Gaza According to you condemn any terrorist acts such as the 7 October as I do But you justify Israel committing atrocities that lead to the 7 October atrocities and after the 7 October atrocities not sure if that's helpful for you to understand because I have to remind myself that you lack the moral sense or regard of international law on humanity and need assistance in such matters. | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x so are you supporting this idea of trump's let's call it what it is ethnic cleansing.Didn't say i supported anything, just asked another poster a question, does that answer your question?
Mrs x and I asked if you support this idea especially as in so many of your other comments on other posts you do come across as very pro Israeli over Gaza in my opinion.See that's the problem, I'm not necessarily pro Israeli but I am vehemently anti terrorist. You are welcome to your opinion though,
Mrs x
If your anti terrorist then you would be against what netenyahu and the Zionist terrorists have done and I don't see that from you Which Zionist terrorists are you talking about this time?
Mrs x
Interesting that you've phrased it in that way, possibly to attempt to diminish my previous post, but I'll ignore that.
The same Zionist terror organisation that has
-forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes in the name of religion using violence
- persued the attempt to clear Gaza through terrorism including the mass destruction of Gaza
- killed foreign aid workers
- had arrest warrants issued to answer for their actions
- openly declared a policy of declaring all Palestinians collectively responsible declaring them all "animals"
- the Jews that are just as horrified at what the Zionists are doing in their name, including haulocaust survivors having their suffering used as an excuse by Zionists to commit these atrocities
the jews you mocked and scoffed at in previous posts I submitted because they're against Zionism (and I doubt your even Jewish so don't know what how or where you feel you have the right to mock Jews in the first place! - an antisemetic act)
- the Zionism that is allowed to act above international law and is assisted by American taxpayers to commit illegal actions
- the same Zionists that are openly supporting and encouraging the ethnic cleansing of Gaza
According to you condemn any terrorist acts such as the 7 October as I do
But you justify Israel committing atrocities that lead to the 7 October atrocities and after the 7 October atrocities
not sure if that's helpful for you to understand because I have to remind myself that you lack the moral sense or regard of international law on humanity and need assistance in such matters.
"Still attacking the poster and not the post I see. I'm not even going to bother myself repeating what I've said. Other than you are talking about a politician and an ideology that was created as a call for a return to an ancestral homeland. None of that is terrorism, it may be wrong but not terrorism the 7th October atrocities we're acts of terror. Burning a baby alive in an oven is not just wrong it's terrorism. Israel, the state, their politicians, nor their soldier's are not considered by the International community as terrorists, whereas Hamas definitely is. Go look it up but you might not fi d it on X, you should really do some reading about this, it helps. Mrs x | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x so are you supporting this idea of trump's let's call it what it is ethnic cleansing.Didn't say i supported anything, just asked another poster a question, does that answer your question?
Mrs x and I asked if you support this idea especially as in so many of your other comments on other posts you do come across as very pro Israeli over Gaza in my opinion.See that's the problem, I'm not necessarily pro Israeli but I am vehemently anti terrorist. You are welcome to your opinion though,
Mrs x
If your anti terrorist then you would be against what netenyahu and the Zionist terrorists have done and I don't see that from you Which Zionist terrorists are you talking about this time?
Mrs x
Interesting that you've phrased it in that way, possibly to attempt to diminish my previous post, but I'll ignore that.
The same Zionist terror organisation that has
-forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes in the name of religion using violence
- persued the attempt to clear Gaza through terrorism including the mass destruction of Gaza
- killed foreign aid workers
- had arrest warrants issued to answer for their actions
- openly declared a policy of declaring all Palestinians collectively responsible declaring them all "animals"
- the Jews that are just as horrified at what the Zionists are doing in their name, including haulocaust survivors having their suffering used as an excuse by Zionists to commit these atrocities
the jews you mocked and scoffed at in previous posts I submitted because they're against Zionism (and I doubt your even Jewish so don't know what how or where you feel you have the right to mock Jews in the first place! - an antisemetic act)
- the Zionism that is allowed to act above international law and is assisted by American taxpayers to commit illegal actions
- the same Zionists that are openly supporting and encouraging the ethnic cleansing of Gaza
According to you condemn any terrorist acts such as the 7 October as I do
But you justify Israel committing atrocities that lead to the 7 October atrocities and after the 7 October atrocities
not sure if that's helpful for you to understand because I have to remind myself that you lack the moral sense or regard of international law on humanity and need assistance in such matters.
Still attacking the poster and not the post I see.
I'm not even going to bother myself repeating what I've said. Other than you are talking about a politician and an ideology that was created as a call for a return to an ancestral homeland.
None of that is terrorism, it may be wrong but not terrorism the 7th October atrocities we're acts of terror. Burning a baby alive in an oven is not just wrong it's terrorism.
Israel, the state, their politicians, nor their soldier's are not considered by the International community as terrorists, whereas Hamas definitely is.
Go look it up but you might not fi d it on X, you should really do some reading about this, it helps.
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x so are you supporting this idea of trump's let's call it what it is ethnic cleansing.Didn't say i supported anything, just asked another poster a question, does that answer your question?
Mrs x and I asked if you support this idea especially as in so many of your other comments on other posts you do come across as very pro Israeli over Gaza in my opinion.See that's the problem, I'm not necessarily pro Israeli but I am vehemently anti terrorist. You are welcome to your opinion though,
Mrs x
If your anti terrorist then you would be against what netenyahu and the Zionist terrorists have done and I don't see that from you Which Zionist terrorists are you talking about this time?
Mrs x
Interesting that you've phrased it in that way, possibly to attempt to diminish my previous post, but I'll ignore that.
The same Zionist terror organisation that has
-forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes in the name of religion using violence
- persued the attempt to clear Gaza through terrorism including the mass destruction of Gaza
- killed foreign aid workers
- had arrest warrants issued to answer for their actions
- openly declared a policy of declaring all Palestinians collectively responsible declaring them all "animals"
- the Jews that are just as horrified at what the Zionists are doing in their name, including haulocaust survivors having their suffering used as an excuse by Zionists to commit these atrocities
the jews you mocked and scoffed at in previous posts I submitted because they're against Zionism (and I doubt your even Jewish so don't know what how or where you feel you have the right to mock Jews in the first place! - an antisemetic act)
- the Zionism that is allowed to act above international law and is assisted by American taxpayers to commit illegal actions
- the same Zionists that are openly supporting and encouraging the ethnic cleansing of Gaza
According to you condemn any terrorist acts such as the 7 October as I do
But you justify Israel committing atrocities that lead to the 7 October atrocities and after the 7 October atrocities
not sure if that's helpful for you to understand because I have to remind myself that you lack the moral sense or regard of international law on humanity and need assistance in such matters.
Still attacking the poster and not the post I see.
I'm not even going to bother myself repeating what I've said. Other than you are talking about a politician and an ideology that was created as a call for a return to an ancestral homeland.
None of that is terrorism, it may be wrong but not terrorism the 7th October atrocities we're acts of terror. Burning a baby alive in an oven is not just wrong it's terrorism.
Israel, the state, their politicians, nor their soldier's are not considered by the International community as terrorists, whereas Hamas definitely is.
Go look it up but you might not fi d it on X, you should really do some reading about this, it helps.
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x so are you supporting this idea of trump's let's call it what it is ethnic cleansing.Didn't say i supported anything, just asked another poster a question, does that answer your question?
Mrs x and I asked if you support this idea especially as in so many of your other comments on other posts you do come across as very pro Israeli over Gaza in my opinion.See that's the problem, I'm not necessarily pro Israeli but I am vehemently anti terrorist. You are welcome to your opinion though,
Mrs x
If your anti terrorist then you would be against what netenyahu and the Zionist terrorists have done and I don't see that from you Which Zionist terrorists are you talking about this time?
Mrs x
Interesting that you've phrased it in that way, possibly to attempt to diminish my previous post, but I'll ignore that.
The same Zionist terror organisation that has
-forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes in the name of religion using violence
- persued the attempt to clear Gaza through terrorism including the mass destruction of Gaza
- killed foreign aid workers
- had arrest warrants issued to answer for their actions
- openly declared a policy of declaring all Palestinians collectively responsible declaring them all "animals"
- the Jews that are just as horrified at what the Zionists are doing in their name, including haulocaust survivors having their suffering used as an excuse by Zionists to commit these atrocities
the jews you mocked and scoffed at in previous posts I submitted because they're against Zionism (and I doubt your even Jewish so don't know what how or where you feel you have the right to mock Jews in the first place! - an antisemetic act)
- the Zionism that is allowed to act above international law and is assisted by American taxpayers to commit illegal actions
- the same Zionists that are openly supporting and encouraging the ethnic cleansing of Gaza
According to you condemn any terrorist acts such as the 7 October as I do
But you justify Israel committing atrocities that lead to the 7 October atrocities and after the 7 October atrocities
not sure if that's helpful for you to understand because I have to remind myself that you lack the moral sense or regard of international law on humanity and need assistance in such matters.
Still attacking the poster and not the post I see.
I'm not even going to bother myself repeating what I've said. Other than you are talking about a politician and an ideology that was created as a call for a return to an ancestral homeland.
None of that is terrorism, it may be wrong but not terrorism the 7th October atrocities we're acts of terror. Burning a baby alive in an oven is not just wrong it's terrorism.
Israel, the state, their politicians, nor their soldier's are not considered by the International community as terrorists, whereas Hamas definitely is.
Go look it up but you might not fi d it on X, you should really do some reading about this, it helps.
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous.
No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters.
If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"?
I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer.
He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would.
Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have.
Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground.
Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did.
There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion....
Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies?
Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale.
Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am,
Mrs x so are you supporting this idea of trump's let's call it what it is ethnic cleansing.Didn't say i supported anything, just asked another poster a question, does that answer your question?
Mrs x and I asked if you support this idea especially as in so many of your other comments on other posts you do come across as very pro Israeli over Gaza in my opinion.See that's the problem, I'm not necessarily pro Israeli but I am vehemently anti terrorist. You are welcome to your opinion though,
Mrs x
If your anti terrorist then you would be against what netenyahu and the Zionist terrorists have done and I don't see that from you Which Zionist terrorists are you talking about this time?
Mrs x
Interesting that you've phrased it in that way, possibly to attempt to diminish my previous post, but I'll ignore that.
The same Zionist terror organisation that has
-forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes in the name of religion using violence
- persued the attempt to clear Gaza through terrorism including the mass destruction of Gaza
- killed foreign aid workers
- had arrest warrants issued to answer for their actions
- openly declared a policy of declaring all Palestinians collectively responsible declaring them all "animals"
- the Jews that are just as horrified at what the Zionists are doing in their name, including haulocaust survivors having their suffering used as an excuse by Zionists to commit these atrocities
the jews you mocked and scoffed at in previous posts I submitted because they're against Zionism (and I doubt your even Jewish so don't know what how or where you feel you have the right to mock Jews in the first place! - an antisemetic act)
- the Zionism that is allowed to act above international law and is assisted by American taxpayers to commit illegal actions
- the same Zionists that are openly supporting and encouraging the ethnic cleansing of Gaza
According to you condemn any terrorist acts such as the 7 October as I do
But you justify Israel committing atrocities that lead to the 7 October atrocities and after the 7 October atrocities
not sure if that's helpful for you to understand because I have to remind myself that you lack the moral sense or regard of international law on humanity and need assistance in such matters.
Still attacking the poster and not the post I see.
I'm not even going to bother myself repeating what I've said. Other than you are talking about a politician and an ideology that was created as a call for a return to an ancestral homeland.
None of that is terrorism, it may be wrong but not terrorism the 7th October atrocities we're acts of terror. Burning a baby alive in an oven is not just wrong it's terrorism.
Israel, the state, their politicians, nor their soldier's are not considered by the International community as terrorists, whereas Hamas definitely is.
Go look it up but you might not fi d it on X, you should really do some reading about this, it helps.
Mrs x
I forgive your ignorance . Bless you"Hahaha, you do make me laugh, attacking the poster again and not the post. Your constant talk about Zionism is ignorant, regarding its true meaning. It's not even an exclusive thought amongst Jews or even Israel. It's original form has, and still is, practised in other parts of the world today. By other people's and other religions are they evil too. Have a think about that why you're wobbling your tin foil covered head haha, Mrs x | |||
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"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. " Two state solution is never going to work. Sooner or later the government of Gaza would be hijacked by Iran as a proxy terror state. Then we are back to square one. Palestinians are pledged to reclaim their historic lands now part of Israel. That's not going to happen either. As nutty as Trump's plan is, it's no worse than any of the other scenarios. | |||
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"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. Two state solution is never going to work. Sooner or later the government of Gaza would be hijacked by Iran as a proxy terror state. Then we are back to square one. Palestinians are pledged to reclaim their historic lands now part of Israel. That's not going to happen either. As nutty as Trump's plan is, it's no worse than any of the other scenarios." Not saying i agree with Trump but it's not even a new idea in this area. Palestinians have never had a kingdom of its own. Once the Jews were kicked out by the Romans, this area has been under the control of one empire or another. Prior to the creation of the new state of Israel it was run by the British as part of the Mandate. So there has been other precedents for this kind of thing. Whether it's a good idea or a bad one I'm not sure yet, think that would be a 'time' thing. Mrs x | |||
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"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. Two state solution is never going to work. Sooner or later the government of Gaza would be hijacked by Iran as a proxy terror state. Then we are back to square one. Palestinians are pledged to reclaim their historic lands now part of Israel. That's not going to happen either. As nutty as Trump's plan is, it's no worse than any of the other scenarios." Actually Im not convinced that Iran has that amount of leverage over the Palestinians . Hamas would accept weapons etc. from Iran or anywhere else due to their situation to resist the occupation and Israeli (Zionist) aggression | |||
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"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x" Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent | |||
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"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent " Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x | |||
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"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent " You ever follow your own advice? Mrs x | |||
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"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x" If anyone supports Zionism as it stands now then yes they support terrorism. Hamas among others are prescribed terrorists and Zionists should be on that list too. Or what's your take on what's happening. Hamas commited monsterous acts on 7 October which is condemned Israel commited monsterous acts before AND after 7 October and not condemned in the same way by Western media at least And in some cases justified in biased ways | |||
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"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x If anyone supports Zionism as it stands now then yes they support terrorism. Hamas among others are prescribed terrorists and Zionists should be on that list too. Or what's your take on what's happening. Hamas commited monsterous acts on 7 October which is condemned Israel commited monsterous acts before AND after 7 October and not condemned in the same way by Western media at least And in some cases justified in biased ways " But not all Zionists are violent, not all Zionists are Jews, not all Zionists live in Israel. So are Mormons terrorists? You state the ridiculous, it's like as if I said all Muslims are terrorists because Hamas is Islamic but obviously they aren't. You just can't fathom it out can you haha, so going back to Salt Lake City are their inhabitants terrorists? Mrs x | |||
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"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x If anyone supports Zionism as it stands now then yes they support terrorism. Hamas among others are prescribed terrorists and Zionists should be on that list too. Or what's your take on what's happening. Hamas commited monsterous acts on 7 October which is condemned Israel commited monsterous acts before AND after 7 October and not condemned in the same way by Western media at least And in some cases justified in biased ways But not all Zionists are violent, not all Zionists are Jews, not all Zionists live in Israel. So are Mormons terrorists? You state the ridiculous, it's like as if I said all Muslims are terrorists because Hamas is Islamic but obviously they aren't. You just can't fathom it out can you haha, so going back to Salt Lake City are their inhabitants terrorists? Mrs x So what's your solution.?Answer my question first, are Mormons terrorist? Mrs x" Have you seen American Primeval. I was shocked by the Mormons, shocked I tell thee. I can see where The Killers got their name from. | |||
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"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x If anyone supports Zionism as it stands now then yes they support terrorism. Hamas among others are prescribed terrorists and Zionists should be on that list too. Or what's your take on what's happening. Hamas commited monsterous acts on 7 October which is condemned Israel commited monsterous acts before AND after 7 October and not condemned in the same way by Western media at least And in some cases justified in biased ways But not all Zionists are violent, not all Zionists are Jews, not all Zionists live in Israel. So are Mormons terrorists? You state the ridiculous, it's like as if I said all Muslims are terrorists because Hamas is Islamic but obviously they aren't. You just can't fathom it out can you haha, so going back to Salt Lake City are their inhabitants terrorists? Mrs x So what's your solution.?Answer my question first, are Mormons terrorist? Mrs x Have you seen American Primeval. I was shocked by the Mormons, shocked I tell thee. I can see where The Killers got their name from." I knew a little bit of their history but it was brutal, some horrible things done in the US during that period. There was a good series on ITV X about fundamental Mormonism but can't remember what it was called but think it might have had the word "Heaven" in it. Mrs x | |||
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"Did you see the starving hostages today? "and what about the Palestinian prisoners released with scabies and other skin diseases and underweight! | |||
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"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x If anyone supports Zionism as it stands now then yes they support terrorism. Hamas among others are prescribed terrorists and Zionists should be on that list too. Or what's your take on what's happening. Hamas commited monsterous acts on 7 October which is condemned Israel commited monsterous acts before AND after 7 October and not condemned in the same way by Western media at least And in some cases justified in biased ways But not all Zionists are violent, not all Zionists are Jews, not all Zionists live in Israel. So are Mormons terrorists? You state the ridiculous, it's like as if I said all Muslims are terrorists because Hamas is Islamic but obviously they aren't. You just can't fathom it out can you haha, so going back to Salt Lake City are their inhabitants terrorists? Mrs x So what's your solution.?Answer my question first, are Mormons terrorist? Mrs x Have you seen American Primeval. I was shocked by the Mormons, shocked I tell thee. I can see where The Killers got their name from. Mormans are not killers lol yes marry more but not that " Not anymore they don't, polygamy has been banned since early 20th Century, Mrs x | |||
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"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. You are going to think I’m being argumentative, but I assure you I’m not. Simple question, why would a 2 state solution work. I can’t see it working, I can’t see how peace would be maintained I can see it getting worse and the potential overflow of Palestinians leaving for neighbouring countries should it go wrong would cause a problem larger than the one today. Have I got that wrong? You??? Na..
I think it's been the acceptable potential solution regionally plus the UN and that many European countries will get behind but the sticking point is the right in Israel and the states..
It could be a bit like the GFA, not perfect but far preferable to more death and destruction plus in time a society gets used to living in peace and the likes of the extremists on both sides become less relevant..
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This in my opinion goes beyond the troubles and the GFA.
Who is the Palestinian spokesperson, who rules the whole, I can see that becoming a nightmare if that spills over.
There could be steps towards that, but I’m not jumping on the bandwagon of a 2 state solution because it is better than nothing, or what is there today, if it has the potential to become more volatile.
It's not an easy solution, I don't think many people believe such a thing exists..
But certainly the status quo and the never ending cycle of violence and hatred can't continue.."it can continue and will continue until either the palastinians drive the Israelis out or the Israelis drive the palastinians out, has gone way past being resolved peacefully, that ship sailed about two decades ago | |||
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"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. You are going to think I’m being argumentative, but I assure you I’m not. Simple question, why would a 2 state solution work. I can’t see it working, I can’t see how peace would be maintained I can see it getting worse and the potential overflow of Palestinians leaving for neighbouring countries should it go wrong would cause a problem larger than the one today. Have I got that wrong? You??? Na..
I think it's been the acceptable potential solution regionally plus the UN and that many European countries will get behind but the sticking point is the right in Israel and the states..
It could be a bit like the GFA, not perfect but far preferable to more death and destruction plus in time a society gets used to living in peace and the likes of the extremists on both sides become less relevant..
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This in my opinion goes beyond the troubles and the GFA.
Who is the Palestinian spokesperson, who rules the whole, I can see that becoming a nightmare if that spills over.
There could be steps towards that, but I’m not jumping on the bandwagon of a 2 state solution because it is better than nothing, or what is there today, if it has the potential to become more volatile.
It's not an easy solution, I don't think many people believe such a thing exists..
But certainly the status quo and the never ending cycle of violence and hatred can't continue..it can continue and will continue until either the palastinians drive the Israelis out or the Israelis drive the palastinians out, has gone way past being resolved peacefully, that ship sailed about two decades ago"Why two decades ago?, Mrs x | |||
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"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x If anyone supports Zionism as it stands now then yes they support terrorism. Hamas among others are prescribed terrorists and Zionists should be on that list too. Or what's your take on what's happening. Hamas commited monsterous acts on 7 October which is condemned Israel commited monsterous acts before AND after 7 October and not condemned in the same way by Western media at least And in some cases justified in biased ways But not all Zionists are violent, not all Zionists are Jews, not all Zionists live in Israel. So are Mormons terrorists? You state the ridiculous, it's like as if I said all Muslims are terrorists because Hamas is Islamic but obviously they aren't. You just can't fathom it out can you haha, so going back to Salt Lake City are their inhabitants terrorists? Mrs x So what's your solution.?Answer my question first, are Mormons terrorist? Mrs x" no I'm not going to waste time discussing Mormons, or other shite to deflect away from your idea of a solution! International law is there for a reason. Refer to it and stop looking excuses to wriggle out of it. You've scoffed everything I've said so far and other posters too so ; I'll ask again - what is your genius solution! | |||
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"Best chance they had was with arafat and rabin well in my lifetime anyway, really cant see a peacefull solution going forwarrd thats why i said one is gona force the other out, my money is on Israel forcing the Palestinians out but who knows mabey the arab world will gang up on Israel all i do know its way above mine or anyone on heres paygrade" Fully agree with arafat and rabin leaders 👍 As for this current shite mess? It'll be great for Israel if Palestinians left of their own accord because they can say they weren't forced out (which they were really by various acts of Zionist terrorism) I can't see how they'd be able to force those out who refuse to leave. | |||
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"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x If anyone supports Zionism as it stands now then yes they support terrorism. Hamas among others are prescribed terrorists and Zionists should be on that list too. Or what's your take on what's happening. Hamas commited monsterous acts on 7 October which is condemned Israel commited monsterous acts before AND after 7 October and not condemned in the same way by Western media at least And in some cases justified in biased ways But not all Zionists are violent, not all Zionists are Jews, not all Zionists live in Israel. So are Mormons terrorists? You state the ridiculous, it's like as if I said all Muslims are terrorists because Hamas is Islamic but obviously they aren't. You just can't fathom it out can you haha, so going back to Salt Lake City are their inhabitants terrorists? Mrs x So what's your solution.?Answer my question first, are Mormons terrorist? Mrs x no I'm not going to waste time discussing Mormons, or other shite to deflect away from your idea of a solution! International law is there for a reason. Refer to it and stop looking excuses to wriggle out of it. You've scoffed everything I've said so far and other posters too so ; I'll ask again - what is your genius solution! " So if you don't want to acknowledge that there is Zionism practiced in other parts of the world, by other people, peacefully that's ok but it does disprove your argument that Zionism is a violent ideology. So can you answer the Islam question then, surely that's easier and one you could cope with. Are all those who follow Islam terrorists because Hamas is an Islamic Terrorist Organisation? Know you won't even attempt to answer this haha Mrs x | |||
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"Best chance they had was with arafat and rabin well in my lifetime anyway, really cant see a peacefull solution going forwarrd thats why i said one is gona force the other out, my money is on Israel forcing the Palestinians out but who knows mabey the arab world will gang up on Israel all i do know its way above mine or anyone on heres paygrade" The Olso Accord was never going to be workable. One of the major reasons was the opposition to the Arab nations perceived role of Arafat in all this. Due to the secrecy surrounding these negotiations and his approach at "solo diplomacy" and not keeping the other Aran League nations involved brought him loads of criticism from the Arab League. Arafat did not have a mandate for anything he promised and by signing these Accords individually he was hoing against the principle that the Arab League should sign any negotiations as a whole. Jordan, the country most affected by any policy with Israel, was particularly angry with Arafat for this. The King of Jordan was allegedly fuming that Arafat had kept them in the dark. So any talks of peace following this were futile, with this being one reason. Mrs x | |||
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"Anyone who thinks it's not such a bad idea, it could be an improvement, are clearly not bothered about the rule of law. Obviously, neither are Trump and Netanyahu. But for those of you who do think it's practical and breaking laws you expect everyone else to uphold is just fine; please, tell us how you see it being achieved - and the consequences flowing from it. Exactly this
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"Best chance they had was with arafat and rabin well in my lifetime anyway, really cant see a peacefull solution going forwarrd thats why i said one is gona force the other out, my money is on Israel forcing the Palestinians out but who knows mabey the arab world will gang up on Israel all i do know its way above mine or anyone on heres paygrade The Olso Accord was never going to be workable. One of the major reasons was the opposition to the Arab nations perceived role of Arafat in all this. Due to the secrecy surrounding these negotiations and his approach at "solo diplomacy" and not keeping the other Aran League nations involved brought him loads of criticism from the Arab League. Arafat did not have a mandate for anything he promised and by signing these Accords individually he was hoing against the principle that the Arab League should sign any negotiations as a whole. Jordan, the country most affected by any policy with Israel, was particularly angry with Arafat for this. The King of Jordan was allegedly fuming that Arafat had kept them in the dark. So any talks of peace following this were futile, with this being one reason. Mrs x hang on i thought arafat was the Palestinian leader, whatever he was discussing was down to him, the Palestinians put him in charge, fuck all to do with other arab nations or jordan, i bet israel wasnt having to run it past anyone else so the Palestinians shouldnt of had to, personaly i dont give two fucks about either country there is a bunch of blood thirsty nut jobs on both sides, but that seems a bit one sided if the Palestinians have to get agreement from other countrys and Israel dont" Arafat was in charge of the PLO, doesn't mean he was in charge of the Palestinians. He was never put in charge by the Palestinians. It was those Arab nations you say had fuck all to do with it that did that. The PLO were charged by the Arab League to look at solving the Palestinian issue, one way or another but not to conduct things in secret. In fact high ranking members of the PLO criticised him heavily for this. You can read up about this all if you want, don't take my word for it. But what you thought isn't factually right. It was never going to work. Mrs x | |||
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"Well looks like the only option then is keep killing each other then,as long as our country keeps its nose out of it,let them carry on killing each other seems as that seems to be both sides favorite past time, not our shit show" Didn't know we had our 'noses' in it to be fair. Mrs x | |||
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"Well looks like the only option then is keep killing each other then,as long as our country keeps its nose out of it,let them carry on killing each other seems as that seems to be both sides favorite past time, not our shit showDidn't know we had our 'noses' in it to be fair. Mrs x" our airfore has been flying over gaza finding targets for Israel,Israel can do that themselves,we also helped shoot down missiles from Iran,it ain't our circus so we shouldn't be involving ourselves | |||
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"Well looks like the only option then is keep killing each other then,as long as our country keeps its nose out of it,let them carry on killing each other seems as that seems to be both sides favorite past time, not our shit showDidn't know we had our 'noses' in it to be fair. Mrs xour airfore has been flying over gaza finding targets for Israel,Israel can do that themselves,we also helped shoot down missiles from Iran,it ain't our circus so we shouldn't be involving ourselves" But isn't that what Allies do? We've recieved support from our Allies in our conflicts before, surely Allies can expect support from us? Mrs x | |||
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"Great move by the president! That will fuck those terrorist scumbags Hamas up.. I stand with Israel and the president on this one. I’m sure the lefty losers with their Palestinian flags and masked faces will be out in force with that dwarf tosser mayor of London giving it the large one." Lefty losers? No love, get it right, the losers are those displaced by the war. | |||
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"Anyone who thinks it's not such a bad idea, it could be an improvement, are clearly not bothered about the rule of law. Obviously, neither are Trump and Netanyahu. But for those of you who do think it's practical and breaking laws you expect everyone else to uphold is just fine; please, tell us how you see it being achieved - and the consequences flowing from it. Exactly this
Anyone supporting this is morally bankrupt and have no right to criticise any other countries affairs or actions in the world
I think you might be looking at this through the eyes of a bewildered media, who will push the Trump message harder and faster for clicks and attention, it has worked wonderfully in here..
The idea of the US owning Gaza is enough to force the Palestinians, Hamas, Egypt, Jordan, Iran and many others to fix issues, rather than create them. Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them
Think about it, the US haven't got the cash, time, or internal appetite and Trump knows that, he has pulled the strings to get things moving.
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"Well looks like the only option then is keep killing each other then,as long as our country keeps its nose out of it,let them carry on killing each other seems as that seems to be both sides favorite past time, not our shit showDidn't know we had our 'noses' in it to be fair. Mrs xour airfore has been flying over gaza finding targets for Israel,Israel can do that themselves,we also helped shoot down missiles from Iran,it ain't our circus so we shouldn't be involving ourselvesBut isn't that what Allies do? We've recieved support from our Allies in our conflicts before, surely Allies can expect support from us? Mrs x" have Israel helped us out in a war? Nope so we shouldn't be getting involved in there shit show,all the uk is doing is putting a target on ourselves by helping Israel,I don't like our armed forces that I help pay for poking there nose in others arguments,I don't see why they need our help as I thought Israel had one of the best armed forces in the world | |||
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"Well looks like the only option then is keep killing each other then,as long as our country keeps its nose out of it,let them carry on killing each other seems as that seems to be both sides favorite past time, not our shit showDidn't know we had our 'noses' in it to be fair. Mrs xour airfore has been flying over gaza finding targets for Israel,Israel can do that themselves,we also helped shoot down missiles from Iran,it ain't our circus so we shouldn't be involving ourselvesBut isn't that what Allies do? We've recieved support from our Allies in our conflicts before, surely Allies can expect support from us? Mrs xhave Israel helped us out in a war? Nope so we shouldn't be getting involved in there shit show,all the uk is doing is putting a target on ourselves by helping Israel,I don't like our armed forces that I help pay for poking there nose in others arguments,I don't see why they need our help as I thought Israel had one of the best armed forces in the world" What about Poland? Don't think they've helped us out in a war but I may be wrong. So if you were alive you'd call fir restraint against Nazi Germany and not help our allies out? Think that's a very short sighted view but it's yours and you can have it. We have asked for and have been given help by lots of nations but we cannot help them back? Mrs x | |||
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"Well looks like the only option then is keep killing each other then,as long as our country keeps its nose out of it,let them carry on killing each other seems as that seems to be both sides favorite past time, not our shit showDidn't know we had our 'noses' in it to be fair. Mrs xour airfore has been flying over gaza finding targets for Israel,Israel can do that themselves,we also helped shoot down missiles from Iran,it ain't our circus so we shouldn't be involving ourselvesBut isn't that what Allies do? We've recieved support from our Allies in our conflicts before, surely Allies can expect support from us? Mrs xhave Israel helped us out in a war? Nope so we shouldn't be getting involved in there shit show,all the uk is doing is putting a target on ourselves by helping Israel,I don't like our armed forces that I help pay for poking there nose in others arguments,I don't see why they need our help as I thought Israel had one of the best armed forces in the world" Ukraine has our help: money, weapons, training. | |||
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"Well looks like the only option then is keep killing each other then,as long as our country keeps its nose out of it,let them carry on killing each other seems as that seems to be both sides favorite past time, not our shit showDidn't know we had our 'noses' in it to be fair. Mrs xour airfore has been flying over gaza finding targets for Israel,Israel can do that themselves,we also helped shoot down missiles from Iran,it ain't our circus so we shouldn't be involving ourselvesBut isn't that what Allies do? We've recieved support from our Allies in our conflicts before, surely Allies can expect support from us? Mrs xhave Israel helped us out in a war? Nope so we shouldn't be getting involved in there shit show,all the uk is doing is putting a target on ourselves by helping Israel,I don't like our armed forces that I help pay for poking there nose in others arguments,I don't see why they need our help as I thought Israel had one of the best armed forces in the world Ukraine has our help: money, weapons, training." Exactly, Mrs x | |||
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"Well looks like the only option then is keep killing each other then,as long as our country keeps its nose out of it,let them carry on killing each other seems as that seems to be both sides favorite past time, not our shit showDidn't know we had our 'noses' in it to be fair. Mrs x" Yep. RAF flying hundreds of sorties to help the IDF and SAS boots on the ground operations too. | |||
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"Well looks like the only option then is keep killing each other then,as long as our country keeps its nose out of it,let them carry on killing each other seems as that seems to be both sides favorite past time, not our shit showDidn't know we had our 'noses' in it to be fair. Mrs x Yep. RAF flying hundreds of sorties to help the IDF and SAS boots on the ground operations too. " So providing assistance to our Ally, is that what you are saying? Mrs x | |||
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"Well looks like the only option then is keep killing each other then,as long as our country keeps its nose out of it,let them carry on killing each other seems as that seems to be both sides favorite past time, not our shit showDidn't know we had our 'noses' in it to be fair. Mrs x Yep. RAF flying hundreds of sorties to help the IDF and SAS boots on the ground operations too. So providing assistance to our Ally, is that what you are saying? Mrs x" Erm - no , they were running ice cream vans on Street corners!
Not so much an ally as they've done jack shit for us.
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"Well looks like the only option then is keep killing each other then,as long as our country keeps its nose out of it,let them carry on killing each other seems as that seems to be both sides favorite past time, not our shit showDidn't know we had our 'noses' in it to be fair. Mrs x Yep. RAF flying hundreds of sorties to help the IDF and SAS boots on the ground operations too. So providing assistance to our Ally, is that what you are saying? Mrs x Erm - no , they were running ice cream vans on Street corners!
Not so much an ally as they've done jack shit for us.
How about sharing your solution to Gaza?"Mormons and Muslims first or nothing from me, Mrs x | |||
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"Well looks like the only option then is keep killing each other then,as long as our country keeps its nose out of it,let them carry on killing each other seems as that seems to be both sides favorite past time, not our shit showDidn't know we had our 'noses' in it to be fair. Mrs x Yep. RAF flying hundreds of sorties to help the IDF and SAS boots on the ground operations too. So providing assistance to our Ally, is that what you are saying? Mrs x Erm - no , they were running ice cream vans on Street corners!
Not so much an ally as they've done jack shit for us.
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"🙊" I see that some people struggle identifying the basics of law international law and why it was established. If anyone - Mormons Jews atheists etc. support encourage commit incite or assist in 'committimg illegal acts against humanity in this case, then they are in violation and for good moral reason. Something which some people here are lacking - Now then -bate you going to tell us all your thoughts on the future of Gaza | |||
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"Well on the fox pre superbowl interview.. which is traditional with the president He doubled down on wanting to annex Canada He doubled down on the us owning gaza… So… yey for ethnic cleansing! Let the forced removal begin!!! " And see how the hypocrites deal with the Ukraine | |||
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"Well on the fox pre superbowl interview.. which is traditional with the president He doubled down on wanting to annex Canada He doubled down on the us owning gaza… So… yey for ethnic cleansing! Let the forced removal begin!!! And see how the hypocrites deal with the Ukraine " hopefully they will turn off the cash flow | |||
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"Well looks like the only option then is keep killing each other then,as long as our country keeps its nose out of it,let them carry on killing each other seems as that seems to be both sides favorite past time, not our shit showDidn't know we had our 'noses' in it to be fair. Mrs xour airfore has been flying over gaza finding targets for Israel,Israel can do that themselves,we also helped shoot down missiles from Iran,it ain't our circus so we shouldn't be involving ourselvesBut isn't that what Allies do? We've recieved support from our Allies in our conflicts before, surely Allies can expect support from us? Mrs xhave Israel helped us out in a war? Nope so we shouldn't be getting involved in there shit show,all the uk is doing is putting a target on ourselves by helping Israel,I don't like our armed forces that I help pay for poking there nose in others arguments,I don't see why they need our help as I thought Israel had one of the best armed forces in the world Ukraine has our help: money, weapons, training." and we should be keeping our beaks out of that shit show to, just think if boris hadnt of poked his nose in a peace deal may have been signed and hundreds of thousands of ukraine and russian soldiers may not have been slaughterd or are you one of the people who have been cheering to the last ukrainian | |||
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"🙊 I see that some people struggle identifying the basics of law international law and why it was established. If anyone - Mormons Jews atheists etc. support encourage commit incite or assist in 'committimg illegal acts against humanity in this case, then they are in violation and for good moral reason. Something which some people here are lacking - Now then -bate you going to tell us all your thoughts on the future of Gaza " So are Mormons currently, and all Muslims terrorists? Very simple question just have to say yes or no... Go on have a little think about it, it's not going to hurt to answer it, Mrs x | |||
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"🙊 I see that some people struggle identifying the basics of law international law and why it was established. If anyone - Mormons Jews atheists etc. support encourage commit incite or assist in 'committimg illegal acts against humanity in this case, then they are in violation and for good moral reason. Something which some people here are lacking - Now then -bate you going to tell us all your thoughts on the future of Gaza So are Mormons currently, and all Muslims terrorists? Very simple question just have to say yes or no... Go on have a little think about it, it's not going to hurt to answer it, Mrs x" So no you don't have a clue about Gaza - nothing that wouldn't clash with the ICC or ICJ anyway. The best way forward is to follow the law and treat Palestinians like equal human being and give them their land back, stop pers3cutings and d terrorising them to ste4l what's left of their land | |||
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"🙊 I see that some people struggle identifying the basics of law international law and why it was established. If anyone - Mormons Jews atheists etc. support encourage commit incite or assist in 'committimg illegal acts against humanity in this case, then they are in violation and for good moral reason. Something which some people here are lacking - Now then -bate you going to tell us all your thoughts on the future of Gaza So are Mormons currently, and all Muslims terrorists? Very simple question just have to say yes or no... Go on have a little think about it, it's not going to hurt to answer it, Mrs x" I already have answered it. | |||
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"Getting back to the Trump idea, which was an outlandish rebuild proposal. What is the expectation of the actual rebuild? " Expectation of the rebuild; the ethnic cleansing of a people from their territory | |||
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"Getting back to the Trump idea, which was an outlandish rebuild proposal. What is the expectation of the actual rebuild? Expectation of the rebuild; the ethnic cleansing of a people from their territory " You really believe that is going to happen? Anything to add to the question of the actual rebuild? | |||
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"Getting back to the Trump idea, which was an outlandish rebuild proposal. What is the expectation of the actual rebuild? " The more I think about it the more I think he is semi-serious about this. There's definitely some discussions going on between Trump and his team. Mrs x | |||
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"Getting back to the Trump idea, which was an outlandish rebuild proposal. What is the expectation of the actual rebuild? " concrete boxes like last time with miles of new tunnels underneath it all is my guess | |||
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"Getting back to the Trump idea, which was an outlandish rebuild proposal. What is the expectation of the actual rebuild? Expectation of the rebuild; the ethnic cleansing of a people from their territory You really believe that is going to happen? Anything to add to the question of the actual rebuild?" Do you really believe that current US administration & Israel government will respect the rights of Palestinians living in Gaza? Trump has just announced the displaced Palestinians won't have the right to return...that is ethnic cleansing. They'll be moved out & most will end up in Europe, which will make things even more interesting. | |||
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"Getting back to the Trump idea, which was an outlandish rebuild proposal. What is the expectation of the actual rebuild? Expectation of the rebuild; the ethnic cleansing of a people from their territory You really believe that is going to happen? Anything to add to the question of the actual rebuild? Do you really believe that current US administration & Israel government will respect the rights of Palestinians living in Gaza? Trump has just announced the displaced Palestinians won't have the right to return...that is ethnic cleansing. They'll be moved out & most will end up in Europe, which will make things even more interesting. " Imagine if this happened, Jews from Europe to Israel, Palestinians from Israel to Europe, the Arab world would be in uproar, omg it doesn't bear thinking about, Mrs x | |||
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"Getting back to the Trump idea, which was an outlandish rebuild proposal. What is the expectation of the actual rebuild? The more I think about it the more I think he is semi-serious about this. There's definitely some discussions going on between Trump and his team. Mrs x" He wouldn't be able to carry out the plan has he spoke about it, far too many hurdles that would land him in a lot of trouble. I can see what he is thinking, the place is rubble, it wasn't that great before the war, there is little left of it now. Build an oasis on the edge of the sea, people will move in and look after it. That is his real estate head kicking in, thinking about turning a run down neighbourhood into a profit by gentrifying it, he sees it as an urban renewal project rather than a complex geopolitical issue. That is how I read into it. I think he is partially right in terms of building housing and infrastructure that people can take pride in, and it might actually alter a few hearts and minds, but the reality is Hamas will still rule by terror inside Gaza and outside. Hamas thrives on conflict, while Israel prioritises security. Neither prioritises peace as the primary goal. | |||
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"Getting back to the Trump idea, which was an outlandish rebuild proposal. What is the expectation of the actual rebuild? Expectation of the rebuild; the ethnic cleansing of a people from their territory You really believe that is going to happen? Anything to add to the question of the actual rebuild? Do you really believe that current US administration & Israel government will respect the rights of Palestinians living in Gaza? Trump has just announced the displaced Palestinians won't have the right to return...that is ethnic cleansing. They'll be moved out & most will end up in Europe, which will make things even more interesting. Imagine if this happened, Jews from Europe to Israel, Palestinians from Israel to Europe, the Arab world would be in uproar, omg it doesn't bear thinking about, Mrs x" Jews from Europe moved to Israel voluntarily (after the atrocity of The Holocaust); Palestinians will be removed from their territory by force. | |||
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"Getting back to the Trump idea, which was an outlandish rebuild proposal. What is the expectation of the actual rebuild? Expectation of the rebuild; the ethnic cleansing of a people from their territory You really believe that is going to happen? Anything to add to the question of the actual rebuild? Do you really believe that current US administration & Israel government will respect the rights of Palestinians living in Gaza? Trump has just announced the displaced Palestinians won't have the right to return...that is ethnic cleansing. They'll be moved out & most will end up in Europe, which will make things even more interesting. " If you believe Trump can carry out what he said, I honestly think you give him too much credit and power. | |||
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"Getting back to the Trump idea, which was an outlandish rebuild proposal. What is the expectation of the actual rebuild? The more I think about it the more I think he is semi-serious about this. There's definitely some discussions going on between Trump and his team. Mrs x He wouldn't be able to carry out the plan has he spoke about it, far too many hurdles that would land him in a lot of trouble. I can see what he is thinking, the place is rubble, it wasn't that great before the war, there is little left of it now. Build an oasis on the edge of the sea, people will move in and look after it. That is his real estate head kicking in, thinking about turning a run down neighbourhood into a profit by gentrifying it, he sees it as an urban renewal project rather than a complex geopolitical issue. That is how I read into it. I think he is partially right in terms of building housing and infrastructure that people can take pride in, and it might actually alter a few hearts and minds, but the reality is Hamas will still rule by terror inside Gaza and outside. Hamas thrives on conflict, while Israel prioritises security. Neither prioritises peace as the primary goal." I don't necessarily think it's about real estate. If he does this he then can exploit that gas field, which I think has been valued at around the 1.7 Trillion mark. The Oompa Loompa is not being altruistic, he's not going to build a Palestinian Shangri-la La, he's just following tge dollar, the greedy megalomaniac. But I could be wrong, Mrs x | |||
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"Getting back to the Trump idea, which was an outlandish rebuild proposal. What is the expectation of the actual rebuild? Expectation of the rebuild; the ethnic cleansing of a people from their territory You really believe that is going to happen? Anything to add to the question of the actual rebuild? Do you really believe that current US administration & Israel government will respect the rights of Palestinians living in Gaza? Trump has just announced the displaced Palestinians won't have the right to return...that is ethnic cleansing. They'll be moved out & most will end up in Europe, which will make things even more interesting. If you believe Trump can carry out what he said, I honestly think you give him too much credit and power. " It's the people around Trump who will be there after he is gone I have my concern about; several GOP members will agree with whatever Trump says (no matter how crazy) so as to be re-elected. Also consider the US President openly talking about ethnic cleansing; if Putin, China, North Korea was speaking like that, the whole of The West would be condemning them. | |||
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