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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
2 weeks ago

nearby

Rumours in the media that Rachel Reeves is coming after personal savings and may end the current tax free status of individual savings (cash) accounts.

Reeves has apparently met with City firms who claimed that the £300billion held in cash Isas would yield better results if they were invested in riskier stocks and shares Isas.

She is reportedly considering cutting tax benefits for the ISA savings scheme, according to the Telegraph.

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By *ellhungvweMan
2 weeks ago

Cheltenham

Statistically, over the long term, shares will almost always outperform cash. Given that ISAs should be about long term saving then making them equity only doesn’t seem like a bad idea to me.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
2 weeks ago

nearby


"Statistically, over the long term, shares will almost always outperform cash. Given that ISAs should be about long term saving then making them equity only doesn’t seem like a bad idea to me."

I agree

However many people are risk averse. And a case for less volatile investments / holding cash for older people.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings

But what will happen if every one just cash in there ISA rather than tieing up cash for a long time.

I have long term investments but have cash ISA's for easy access.

Could stocks and shears ISA be instant access?

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By *icolerobbieCouple
2 weeks ago

walsall

This country is becoming less and less appealing by the minute.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
2 weeks ago

nearby


"But what will happen if every one just cash in there ISA rather than tieing up cash for a long time.

I have long term investments but have cash ISA's for easy access.

Could stocks and shears ISA be instant access?"

Investment isa’s are instant access to withdraw

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
2 weeks ago

Bedford

1 another tax ?

2 it's money that's already been taxed.

3 it's none of her goddam socialist business.

4 people will save off shore more.

5 is it to counter NI increase, in the vain hope it will be invested in this countries businesses?

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By *ill69888Couple
2 weeks ago

cheltenham

Rachel Thieves will tax absolutely everything.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
2 weeks ago

Pershore

It's Labour, it's Tax, Tax, Tax! What did people expect?

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"But what will happen if every one just cash in there ISA rather than tieing up cash for a long time.

I have long term investments but have cash ISA's for easy access.

Could stocks and shears ISA be instant access?

Investment isa’s are instant access to withdraw "

And can you lose your money if the investment goes down.

I was allready looking at pulling some cash out of ISA

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"It's Labour, it's Tax, Tax, Tax! What did people expect?"

Oh yes And she will probably scrap tax free dividends.

When I set up my business 2007 dividends where free, as it was deemed tax had been paid in the way of Corporation tax 20%.

Now it's 8.75% dividend Tax. And tax free is only £500. Directors will have no benefit for the risk so you would be mad now to bother investing in a business.

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By *emma StonesTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Crewe


"But what will happen if every one just cash in there ISA rather than tieing up cash for a long time.

I have long term investments but have cash ISA's for easy access.

Could stocks and shears ISA be instant access?"

I’ve just withdrawn from my stocks and shares ISA and it’s taken 6 working days to get to my bank account.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"But what will happen if every one just cash in there ISA rather than tieing up cash for a long time.

I have long term investments but have cash ISA's for easy access.

Could stocks and shears ISA be instant access?

I’ve just withdrawn from my stocks and shares ISA and it’s taken 6 working days to get to my bank account."

That's not too bad then but good to know.

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma

Reeves has basically introduced a stealth tax by freezing the 20K allowance until 2030.

It was in the budget....

By not keeping ISAs in line with inflation, she has stripped away their tax benefits, that will force money into taxable areas where it will be liable to interest, dividends, or capital gains tax.

Don’t moan, cry, or blink those are rumoured be the next things to be taxed.

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By *teveuk77Man
2 weeks ago

uk


"It's Labour, it's Tax, Tax, Tax! What did people expect?"

Given the mess the Tories left, they need some way to sort things out.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"It's Labour, it's Tax, Tax, Tax! What did people expect?

Given the mess the Tories left, they need some way to sort things out."

So if there is no money Why is benefits going up 6.7% in April.

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By *uffleskloofMan
2 weeks ago

Walsall

Labour (and all UK governments) have just reached the end of the road with taxing income, so if they want more cash they need to start seizing people’s assets.

Another option might have been to consider cutting state expenditure but for obvious reasons governments (and particularly Labour governments beholden to public sector trade unions) prefer not to do so.

Eventually they will also run out of private assets to seize and the markets won’t support any more borrowing or money printing. I’m not sure what happens then.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"Labour (and all UK governments) have just reached the end of the road with taxing income, so if they want more cash they need to start seizing people’s assets.

Another option might have been to consider cutting state expenditure but for obvious reasons governments (and particularly Labour governments beholden to public sector trade unions) prefer not to do so.

Eventually they will also run out of private assets to seize and the markets won’t support any more borrowing or money printing. I’m not sure what happens then."

Rase the age of state pension again,

It just feels like rob the rich that have worked hard to give it to the poor how don't work. Not saying it is this but it feels like it.

If Cash ISA's do get taxed I for one will pull the cash out. And look for investment elsewhere, probably over sea.

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"It's Labour, it's Tax, Tax, Tax! What did people expect?

Given the mess the Tories left, they need some way to sort things out."

Not constantly running the country down and complaining about a fictional 20 Billion blackhole, whilst spending £20 billion on public sector pay rises that exceeded inflation without securing any contractual reforms would have been a good start?

I would have settled for a bilateral agreement where extra pay came with productivity improvements or working hour adjustments, but that didn’t happen. Instead, it was a blank cheque, take the money and run while you can! We will provide the smoke screen....

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By *emma StonesTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Crewe

Apparently we’re going to have the worst winter in decades as well.

Thems the headlines.

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By *teveuk77Man
2 weeks ago

uk


"It's Labour, it's Tax, Tax, Tax! What did people expect?

Given the mess the Tories left, they need some way to sort things out.

So if there is no money Why is benefits going up 6.7% in April.

"

Because inflation on 8th April 2024 rose by 6.7%...

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By *teveuk77Man
2 weeks ago

uk


"It's Labour, it's Tax, Tax, Tax! What did people expect?

Given the mess the Tories left, they need some way to sort things out.

Not constantly running the country down and complaining about a fictional 20 Billion blackhole, whilst spending £20 billion on public sector pay rises that exceeded inflation without securing any contractual reforms would have been a good start?

I would have settled for a bilateral agreement where extra pay came with productivity improvements or working hour adjustments, but that didn’t happen. Instead, it was a blank cheque, take the money and run while you can! We will provide the smoke screen...."

Except there was a black hole. Some of it hidden but the Tories. The rest, well, perhaps strictly not a black hole, but a gap in finances for the same reason as the hidden part.

The public sector pay rises may have exceeded inflation but given the workers had gone though years of terrible rises, it's hardly unfair. Oh, and those rises were in line with private sector rises. Sounds fair to me

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
2 weeks ago

nearby

The treasury is pulling in £1.06trn tax a year from the economy. Gross tax is reported by ifs at 37% of GDP equivalent to around £17,200 per adult in uk.

Billions wasted every year, instead of coming after savers, pensioners, farmers and soon employers, the government need to stop wasting money and balance the books. For example Lammy has just given the new ISIS leaders of Syria £50million

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By *teveuk77Man
2 weeks ago

uk


"The treasury is pulling in £1.06trn tax a year from the economy. Gross tax is reported by ifs at 37% of GDP equivalent to around £17,200 per adult in uk.

Billions wasted every year, instead of coming after savers, pensioners, farmers and soon employers, the government need to stop wasting money and balance the books. For example Lammy has just given the new ISIS leaders of Syria £50million "

Imagine trying to provide assistance to help prevent Syrians landing on our shores.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"The treasury is pulling in £1.06trn tax a year from the economy. Gross tax is reported by ifs at 37% of GDP equivalent to around £17,200 per adult in uk.

Billions wasted every year, instead of coming after savers, pensioners, farmers and soon employers, the government need to stop wasting money and balance the books. For example Lammy has just given the new ISIS leaders of Syria £50million "

They don't get £17,000 from me so that makes me feal better. lol

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
2 weeks ago

nearby


"The treasury is pulling in £1.06trn tax a year from the economy. Gross tax is reported by ifs at 37% of GDP equivalent to around £17,200 per adult in uk.

Billions wasted every year, instead of coming after savers, pensioners, farmers and soon employers, the government need to stop wasting money and balance the books. For example Lammy has just given the new ISIS leaders of Syria £50million

Imagine trying to provide assistance to help prevent Syrians landing on our shores. "

Indeed. And the taxpayer has coughed up for 50 RAF ordnance sortees over Gaza for the Israeli bombers to make 1.9 million homeless and create a another decade of refugees

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"The treasury is pulling in £1.06trn tax a year from the economy. Gross tax is reported by ifs at 37% of GDP equivalent to around £17,200 per adult in uk.

Billions wasted every year, instead of coming after savers, pensioners, farmers and soon employers, the government need to stop wasting money and balance the books. For example Lammy has just given the new ISIS leaders of Syria £50million

Imagine trying to provide assistance to help prevent Syrians landing on our shores.

Indeed. And the taxpayer has coughed up for 50 RAF ordnance sortees over Gaza for the Israeli bombers to make 1.9 million homeless and create a another decade of refugees "

To be fair watching the C4 Top gun program last night, I did think if RAF pilots need to keep there flying hours up it might as well be purposeful.

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"It's Labour, it's Tax, Tax, Tax! What did people expect?

Given the mess the Tories left, they need some way to sort things out.

Not constantly running the country down and complaining about a fictional 20 Billion blackhole, whilst spending £20 billion on public sector pay rises that exceeded inflation without securing any contractual reforms would have been a good start?

I would have settled for a bilateral agreement where extra pay came with productivity improvements or working hour adjustments, but that didn’t happen. Instead, it was a blank cheque, take the money and run while you can! We will provide the smoke screen....

Except there was a black hole. Some of it hidden but the Tories. The rest, well, perhaps strictly not a black hole, but a gap in finances for the same reason as the hidden part.

The public sector pay rises may have exceeded inflation but given the workers had gone though years of terrible rises, it's hardly unfair. Oh, and those rises were in line with private sector rises. Sounds fair to me

"

Not inline with the private sector at all.

Do you know why the BMA would not accept the 11% pay rise on the table from the tories?

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By *teveuk77Man
2 weeks ago

uk


"It's Labour, it's Tax, Tax, Tax! What did people expect?

Given the mess the Tories left, they need some way to sort things out.

Not constantly running the country down and complaining about a fictional 20 Billion blackhole, whilst spending £20 billion on public sector pay rises that exceeded inflation without securing any contractual reforms would have been a good start?

I would have settled for a bilateral agreement where extra pay came with productivity improvements or working hour adjustments, but that didn’t happen. Instead, it was a blank cheque, take the money and run while you can! We will provide the smoke screen....

Except there was a black hole. Some of it hidden but the Tories. The rest, well, perhaps strictly not a black hole, but a gap in finances for the same reason as the hidden part.

The public sector pay rises may have exceeded inflation but given the workers had gone though years of terrible rises, it's hardly unfair. Oh, and those rises were in line with private sector rises. Sounds fair to me

Not inline with the private sector at all.

Do you know why the BMA would not accept the 11% pay rise on the table from the tories? "

Absolutely was in line

From ONS

Annual growth in employees’ average regular earnings (excluding bonuses) was 5.7%

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma

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By *regoniansCouple
1 week ago

Oundle


"The treasury is pulling in £1.06trn tax a year from the economy. Gross tax is reported by ifs at 37% of GDP equivalent to around £17,200 per adult in uk.

Billions wasted every year, instead of coming after savers, pensioners, farmers and soon employers, the government need to stop wasting money and balance the books. For example Lammy has just given the new ISIS leaders of Syria £50million

Imagine trying to provide assistance to help prevent Syrians landing on our shores. "

Imagine jus5 sending them straight back on the next plane to Syria.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
1 week ago

walsall


"It's Labour, it's Tax, Tax, Tax! What did people expect?

Given the mess the Tories left, they need some way to sort things out.

Not constantly running the country down and complaining about a fictional 20 Billion blackhole, whilst spending £20 billion on public sector pay rises that exceeded inflation without securing any contractual reforms would have been a good start?

I would have settled for a bilateral agreement where extra pay came with productivity improvements or working hour adjustments, but that didn’t happen. Instead, it was a blank cheque, take the money and run while you can! We will provide the smoke screen....

Except there was a black hole. Some of it hidden but the Tories. The rest, well, perhaps strictly not a black hole, but a gap in finances for the same reason as the hidden part.

The public sector pay rises may have exceeded inflation but given the workers had gone though years of terrible rises, it's hardly unfair. Oh, and those rises were in line with private sector rises. Sounds fair to me

Not inline with the private sector at all.

Do you know why the BMA would not accept the 11% pay rise on the table from the tories?

Absolutely was in line

From ONS

Annual growth in employees’ average regular earnings (excluding bonuses) was 5.7%

"

The labour budget increase in employer Ni contributions has been widely used as a reason not to increase employee pay this year across the private sector. 1.5% when I work.

I voted labour. I will never vote labour again.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
1 week ago

The Outer Rim

a rumour by the telegraph and the usual fab far righties piss their pants while they go into meltdown

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
1 week ago

Hastings


"a rumour by the telegraph and the usual fab far righties piss their pants while they go into meltdown "

What is it really would help if you reply and quote

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By *illedbydeathCouple
1 week ago

dorset

Reap what you sow liebour voters

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By *ty31Man
1 week ago

NW London


"It's Labour, it's Tax, Tax, Tax! What did people expect?

Given the mess the Tories left, they need some way to sort things out."

Maybe they should start with the inefficiency and beaucracy that plagues this country?

Pissing away billions on a useless railway line (HS2), ballooning NHS over spends and an out of control welfare state might be better starting points than taking the soft targets of continually hammering working people? Although judging by "sir" Khan this seems to be Labour speciality

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By *emma StonesTV/TS
1 week ago

Crewe

If putting up Employer NI contributions is going to stop growth it begs the question where was the growth when it has been its current rate for the last decade or so.

The Conservative party have been known as pro business yet even with a pro business government in charge for the last 14 years the private sector have produced insipid growth.

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma


"If putting up Employer NI contributions is going to stop growth it begs the question where was the growth when it has been its current rate for the last decade or so.

The Conservative party have been known as pro business yet even with a pro business government in charge for the last 14 years the private sector have produced insipid growth."

That’s not entirely accurate.

The Conservatives inherited an economic mess in 2010 following the financial crisis, and since then, other global events (Covid, energy crises, inflation) have impacted our growth.

Despite this, business confidence was recovering post covid, with the economy showing signs of improvement. However, a change in government and a change in treasury policies have damaged that confidence, pushing us towards a potential recession.

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