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"I can’t believe that this is being shown on both BBC and ITV …. Wtf! I’d rather shit in my hands and clap than watch that misogynistic crooked narcissistic bastard crowing how amazing he is. Thank god for all the other shit rubbish TV channels which today are a far better alternative! Rant over R xx" Someone oh here will message you shorlty asking you if they can watch you shit and clap and will you be wearing yellow rubber glove  | |||
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"I can’t believe that this is being shown on both BBC and ITV …. Wtf! I’d rather shit in my hands and clap than watch that misogynistic crooked narcissistic bastard crowing how amazing he is. Thank god for all the other shit rubbish TV channels which today are a far better alternative! Rant over R xx" Your summary and conclusion is second to none Well done 👍 Absolute madman | |||
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"I can’t believe that this is being shown on both BBC and ITV …. Wtf! I’d rather shit in my hands and clap than watch that misogynistic crooked narcissistic bastard crowing how amazing he is. Thank god for all the other shit rubbish TV channels which today are a far better alternative! Rant over R xx" You may as well watch it, it may be the last one we ever see | |||
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"The future is bright; the future is 🍊orange🍊 🤦 "They've all been Tangoed | |||
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"Held indoors now so the inevitable low turnout can be excused 🧐 Fuuuuuck we are in for a shitshow - the ripples on that side of the pond could turn into tsunamis over here. " Genuinely interested to hear what you think will happen? | |||
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"And on MLK day no less." Absolutely ironic … and rather sad | |||
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"American inauguration ceremonies are fucking boring " This is quite a speech however, whatever you might think of the policies | |||
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"I don’t know it pretty enjoyable watching him vow to undo all the pant shitters fuckery of the last 4 years while he sits there probably wondering where the fuck he is" quite incredible isn't it. | |||
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"Held indoors now so the inevitable low turnout can be excused 🧐 Fuuuuuck we are in for a shitshow - the ripples on that side of the pond could turn into tsunamis over here. Genuinely interested to hear what you think will happen?" Just a few examples.. Trade - standby for being forced into accepting chlorinated chicken. Tariffs on our exports to USA and being forced into shitty trade deals we can’t refuse because of Brexit Elon Musk disrupting the international political arena with social media (already happening) for right wing political gain and corporate benefit. Dropping support to Ukraine because Trumps net worth is based on borrowed Russian and Chinese money. He’s a puppet. Putin will tell him what to do. Those poor Ukrainians are fucked. That affects us. US Corporations and Insurers increasing the campaigns to drive privatised healthcare into UK | |||
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"Is Stormy Daniels in the crowd?" yes she's on her knees waiting for Donald to accidentally trip his cock falls out into her mouth 😂😂 | |||
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"Held indoors now so the inevitable low turnout can be excused 🧐 Fuuuuuck we are in for a shitshow - the ripples on that side of the pond could turn into tsunamis over here. Genuinely interested to hear what you think will happen? Just a few examples.. Trade - standby for being forced into accepting chlorinated chicken. Tariffs on our exports to USA and being forced into shitty trade deals we can’t refuse because of Brexit Elon Musk disrupting the international political arena with social media (already happening) for right wing political gain and corporate benefit. Dropping support to Ukraine because Trumps net worth is based on borrowed Russian and Chinese money. He’s a puppet. Putin will tell him what to do. Those poor Ukrainians are fucked. That affects us. US Corporations and Insurers increasing the campaigns to drive privatised healthcare into UK " I miss the days when horrific dystopias were in the films I watched and not unfolding in front of me. | |||
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"So far, he has Ripped up global environmental agreements Effectively declared war on Panama Claimed Mars as a US colony Renamed the Gulf of Mexico Imposed economic tariffs Closed the borders Have I missed anything? He's had a quiet first day in office "Making America great again. Can’t fault him | |||
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"So far, he has Ripped up global environmental agreements Effectively declared war on Panama Claimed Mars as a US colony Renamed the Gulf of Mexico Imposed economic tariffs Closed the borders Have I missed anything? He's had a quiet first day in office "He’s now a target for everyone. He’ll be lucky if he lasts a year | |||
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"So far, he has Ripped up global environmental agreements Effectively declared war on Panama Claimed Mars as a US colony Renamed the Gulf of Mexico Imposed economic tariffs Closed the borders Have I missed anything? He's had a quiet first day in office
He’s now a target for everyone. He’ll be lucky if he lasts a year
"I think that is Americas only hope! 🤞 However … if he epitomises what America is today and what they want then so be it…. It shows America and its people for the gullible, corrupt, money orientated society they belong to. R xx | |||
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"So far, he has Ripped up global environmental agreements Effectively declared war on Panama Claimed Mars as a US colony Renamed the Gulf of Mexico Imposed economic tariffs Closed the borders Have I missed anything? He's had a quiet first day in office
He’s now a target for everyone. He’ll be lucky if he lasts a year
I think that is Americas only hope! 🤞
However … if he epitomises what America is today and what they want then so be it…. It shows America and its people for the gullible, corrupt, money orientated society they belong to.
R xx"Indeed. He won, and now he has to deliver. And learn what tariffs are. | |||
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"Brilliant energy, I feel like he is going to get things done and put things right. Well done the USA." Don’t expect instant results. Remember the Dems will try to block everything he tries to do at every turn. That’s American politics | |||
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"Brilliant energy, I feel like he is going to get things done and put things right. Well done the USA. Don’t expect instant results. Remember the Dems will try to block everything he tries to do at every turn. That’s American politics " Just the energy from Trump was excellent. A far cry from Starmer, Reeves and Rayner sulking and talking the country down, what a difference. | |||
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"Wish the UK had a strong leader unlike the clown in number 10" Pol pot, Stalin, Hitler, Sadam, Putin and others in history.. All 'strong' leaders.. Not saying trump is similar but strong usually means despotic or dictatorial.. | |||
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"And on MLK day no less. Absolutely ironic … and rather sad " Also can't believe that Village People sang at his rally this week. Or how anyone who is gay, bi, female, or non-WASP could vote for him. | |||
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"Brilliant energy, I feel like he is going to get things done and put things right. Well done the USA. Don’t expect instant results. Remember the Dems will try to block everything he tries to do at every turn. That’s American politics Just the energy from Trump was excellent. A far cry from Starmer, Reeves and Rayner sulking and talking the country down, what a difference." Yeah when was the last time Starmer was in court to be found a rapist or was onboard a paedophiles plane to a sex abusers paradise island. What a loser we have right enough | |||
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"And on MLK day no less. Absolutely ironic … and rather sad Also can't believe that Village People sang at his rally this week. Or how anyone who is gay, bi, female, or non-WASP could vote for him." Well it's official, there are only TWO genders M & F | |||
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"And on MLK day no less. Absolutely ironic … and rather sad Also can't believe that Village People sang at his rally this week. Or how anyone who is gay, bi, female, or non-WASP could vote for him." Only one original member left now and he is threatening legal action against those describing YMCA as a gay anthem! | |||
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"Brilliant energy, I feel like he is going to get things done and put things right. Well done the USA. Don’t expect instant results. Remember the Dems will try to block everything he tries to do at every turn. That’s American politics Just the energy from Trump was excellent. A far cry from Starmer, Reeves and Rayner sulking and talking the country down, what a difference. Yeah when was the last time Starmer was in court to be found a rapist or was onboard a paedophiles plane to a sex abusers paradise island. What a loser we have right enough " What a strange response, whataboutery with with a lack of substance. | |||
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"Trump will be a strong leader like other strong leaders in their own countries. Sadly they all seem to be dictators." Really? What dictators do you have in mind, in this present time? | |||
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"Trump will be a strong leader like other strong leaders in their own countries. Sadly they all seem to be dictators. Really? What dictators do you have in mind, in this present time?" I'm not saying Trump is or will be a dictator, but you can't seriously be saying there aren't dictators elsewhere in the world now?!?! | |||
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"Trump will be a strong leader like other strong leaders in their own countries. Sadly they all seem to be dictators. Really? What dictators do you have in mind, in this present time?" I can think of a few, Orban, Putin, Xi Anyway, it’s interesting for me anyway, that the inauguration is normally a domestic affair, so heads of state decided, but there was an interesting amount of international “further right “ figures invited … obviously Orban went, but so did Farage, and the leaders of FN France and AFD Germany…. | |||
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"Anyway… looks like Trump saved what probably is going to be the most controversial executive order for last.. not mentioned in any of his speeches, waiting till after the network evening news programs and everyone watching the college national football championship game Trump has either dismissed, commuted, or pardoned every single person jailed in relation to January 6th…. Including the leader or the oath keepers, and the leader of the proud boys, and everyone involved in violence, and assaulting members of the police…." Didn’t Biden pardon 5 members of his family for something like 10 years moments before trump was sworn in? What reason would someone have for doing that? Genuine question. | |||
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" Trump has either dismissed, commuted, or pardoned every single person jailed in relation to January 6th…. Including the leader or the oath keepers, and the leader of the proud boys, and everyone involved in violence, and assaulting members of the police…." Is 'To protect and serve' the motto of the capitol police, Washington police? | |||
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"Couldn’t sleep for the sound of pearl clutching. " You should have said, oi I know you're worried but cut it out.. | |||
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"Trump will be a strong leader like other strong leaders in their own countries. Sadly they all seem to be dictators. Really? What dictators do you have in mind, in this present time? I'm not saying Trump is or will be a dictator, but you can't seriously be saying there aren't dictators elsewhere in the world now?!?!" I was asking the poster to confirm who they consider dictators, helps calibrate understanding. | |||
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"Presumably he’ll remove Elon from his inner circle now, right? " You can live in hope, the rest of us will accept his gesture for what it was hand on heart and arm outstretched in a way to say thank you to members of the audience. | |||
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"Brilliant energy, I feel like he is going to get things done and put things right. Well done the USA. Don’t expect instant results. Remember the Dems will try to block everything he tries to do at every turn. That’s American politics Just the energy from Trump was excellent. A far cry from Starmer, Reeves and Rayner sulking and talking the country down, what a difference. Yeah when was the last time Starmer was in court to be found a rapist or was onboard a paedophiles plane to a sex abusers paradise island. What a loser we have right enough " Starmer was in court defending rapists human rights no doubt. Also to the other quote, republicans hold both house and senate so it will be much easier to MAGA. It’s about time common sense polices were implemented rather than bowing down to the few and ruining the many’s life’s Let this sink in we have a government that want to cover up grooming gang enquiries, now I wonder why ! | |||
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"Presumably he’ll remove Elon from his inner circle now, right? You can live in hope, the rest of us will accept his gesture for what it was hand on heart and arm outstretched in a way to say thank you to members of the audience. " Of course it was. A lovely warm gesture to the audience, twice. You’re defending a ‘Roman’ salute. | |||
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"Presumably he’ll remove Elon from his inner circle now, right? You can live in hope, the rest of us will accept his gesture for what it was hand on heart and arm outstretched in a way to say thank you to members of the audience. Of course it was. A lovely warm gesture to the audience, twice. You’re defending a ‘Roman’ salute." Back again? How long will you be here this time? | |||
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"Presumably he’ll remove Elon from his inner circle now, right? You can live in hope, the rest of us will accept his gesture for what it was hand on heart and arm outstretched in a way to say thank you to members of the audience. Of course it was. A lovely warm gesture to the audience, twice. You’re defending a ‘Roman’ salute. Back again? How long will you be here this time?" Oh it’s the arbiter of staying on topic going off-topic. So glad to see you. | |||
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"Presumably he’ll remove Elon from his inner circle now, right? " The 2 biggest narcissistic egos in the world in a bromance …. it won’t last long! Trump can’t abide anything that isn’t about him, and the gobby South African keeps spouting more rubbish than he does and getting more attention! … watch and wait! R xx | |||
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"Presumably he’ll remove Elon from his inner circle now, right? The 2 biggest narcissistic egos in the world in a bromance …. it won’t last long! Trump can’t abide anything that isn’t about him, and the gobby South African keeps spouting more rubbish than he does and getting more attention! … watch and wait! R xx" Vance scares me more than Trump. He actually believes the nonsense he speaks. Trump is just a con-man saying whatever it takes to cling to power and elevate his brand. | |||
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"Brilliant energy, I feel like he is going to get things done and put things right. Well done the USA. Don’t expect instant results. Remember the Dems will try to block everything he tries to do at every turn. That’s American politics Just the energy from Trump was excellent. A far cry from Starmer, Reeves and Rayner sulking and talking the country down, what a difference. Yeah when was the last time Starmer was in court to be found a rapist or was onboard a paedophiles plane to a sex abusers paradise island. What a loser we have right enough Starmer was in court defending rapists human rights no doubt. Also to the other quote, republicans hold both house and senate so it will be much easier to MAGA. It’s about time common sense polices were implemented rather than bowing down to the few and ruining the many’s life’s Let this sink in we have a government that want to cover up grooming gang enquiries, now I wonder why !" Why are you so concerned with the 20% of sex offences (at maximum) committed by grooming gangs, and not the 80% not committed by them? | |||
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"Trump will be a strong leader like other strong leaders in their own countries. Sadly they all seem to be dictators. Really? What dictators do you have in mind, in this present time? I can think of a few, Orban, Putin, Xi Anyway, it’s interesting for me anyway, that the inauguration is normally a domestic affair, so heads of state decided, but there was an interesting amount of international “further right “ figures invited … obviously Orban went, but so did Farage, and the leaders of FN France and AFD Germany…." Farage may have been in Washington, but he wasn't at the inauguration. | |||
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"The melt down so far has been fucking hilarious. I look forward to the next few months "I agree … and you’re right, this is going to be soooooo entertaining, it’s going to be the best comedy show on the planet! 🤣🤣. R xx | |||
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"Presumably he’ll remove Elon from his inner circle now, right? You can live in hope, the rest of us will accept his gesture for what it was hand on heart and arm outstretched in a way to say thank you to members of the audience. Of course it was. A lovely warm gesture to the audience, twice. You’re defending a ‘Roman’ salute." You are clutching at straws in the hope that it sticks. The problem you now have is this type of attack is ignored by Trump for what it is. Welcome back by the way. | |||
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"Presumably he’ll remove Elon from his inner circle now, right? You can live in hope, the rest of us will accept his gesture for what it was hand on heart and arm outstretched in a way to say thank you to members of the audience. Of course it was. A lovely warm gesture to the audience, twice. You’re defending a ‘Roman’ salute. You are clutching at straws in the hope that it sticks. The problem you now have is this type of attack is ignored by Trump for what it is. Welcome back by the way." Do you think Elon is smart enough to understand the optics of that salute (in which case it was on purpose), or is he completely thick and unsuitable for his position? Because there’s no middle ground here. | |||
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"Presumably he’ll remove Elon from his inner circle now, right? You can live in hope, the rest of us will accept his gesture for what it was hand on heart and arm outstretched in a way to say thank you to members of the audience. Of course it was. A lovely warm gesture to the audience, twice. You’re defending a ‘Roman’ salute. You are clutching at straws in the hope that it sticks. The problem you now have is this type of attack is ignored by Trump for what it is. Welcome back by the way. Do you think Elon is smart enough to understand the optics of that salute (in which case it was on purpose), or is he completely thick and unsuitable for his position? Because there’s no middle ground here." I agree there is no middle ground, but I also consider there is no grounds for saying he was deliberately making a nazi salute. Take a moment to watch his whole speech, he was overly excited bouncing around the stage and was driven by emotion. If you put things into perspective you will find the answer. Being angry tends to a cause defocusing on the whole, and to encourage a focus on an extreme to fuel the anger, it is not rational. However, who knows, maybe I'm giving him more credit than he deserves and it is me that is not looking for hidden messages in plain sight in the hope I can find the inner demon. | |||
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" Take a moment to watch his whole speech, he was overly excited bouncing around the stage and was driven by emotion. If you put things into perspective you will find the answer. " I’ve never been exited enough to do that salute. Have you? Would you? | |||
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" Take a moment to watch his whole speech, he was overly excited bouncing around the stage and was driven by emotion. If you put things into perspective you will find the answer. I’ve never been exited enough to do that salute. Have you? Would you? " This is the part I think you are struggling with. If I'm excited I might have thrown my hand out towards somebody in that way, but I wouldn't know as it wouldn't have been a conscious action. Look at the end of the day if you think Musk was giving out nazi salutes at the inauguration of President Trump, who am I to say you are wrong, you see what you see. How about you, always in control and never get excited? Never thrown your hands over your face, never turned to someone as you a point a hand or finger in the direction of your disbelief. | |||
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" Take a moment to watch his whole speech, he was overly excited bouncing around the stage and was driven by emotion. If you put things into perspective you will find the answer. I’ve never been exited enough to do that salute. Have you? Would you? This is the part I think you are struggling with. If I'm excited I might have thrown my hand out towards somebody in that way, but I wouldn't know as it wouldn't have been a conscious action. Look at the end of the day if you think Musk was giving out nazi salutes at the inauguration of President Trump, who am I to say you are wrong, you see what you see. How about you, always in control and never get excited? Never thrown your hands over your face, never turned to someone as you a point a hand or finger in the direction of your disbelief. " Of course I get exited and gesture. But not *that* gesture. It’s hardly something one would do naturally. Twice. | |||
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" Take a moment to watch his whole speech, he was overly excited bouncing around the stage and was driven by emotion. If you put things into perspective you will find the answer. I’ve never been exited enough to do that salute. Have you? Would you? This is the part I think you are struggling with. If I'm excited I might have thrown my hand out towards somebody in that way, but I wouldn't know as it wouldn't have been a conscious action. Look at the end of the day if you think Musk was giving out nazi salutes at the inauguration of President Trump, who am I to say you are wrong, you see what you see. How about you, always in control and never get excited? Never thrown your hands over your face, never turned to someone as you a point a hand or finger in the direction of your disbelief. Of course I get exited and gesture. But not *that* gesture. It’s hardly something one would do naturally. Twice. " It obviously is as he did it more than once as he travelled around 360 degrees acknowledging the crowd. But you haven't watched the speech so you wouldn't know | |||
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" Take a moment to watch his whole speech, he was overly excited bouncing around the stage and was driven by emotion. If you put things into perspective you will find the answer. I’ve never been exited enough to do that salute. Have you? Would you? This is the part I think you are struggling with. If I'm excited I might have thrown my hand out towards somebody in that way, but I wouldn't know as it wouldn't have been a conscious action. Look at the end of the day if you think Musk was giving out nazi salutes at the inauguration of President Trump, who am I to say you are wrong, you see what you see. How about you, always in control and never get excited? Never thrown your hands over your face, never turned to someone as you a point a hand or finger in the direction of your disbelief. Of course I get exited and gesture. But not *that* gesture. It’s hardly something one would do naturally. Twice. It obviously is as he did it more than once as he travelled around 360 degrees acknowledging the crowd. But you haven't watched the speech so you wouldn't know" Haven’t I? | |||
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" Take a moment to watch his whole speech, he was overly excited bouncing around the stage and was driven by emotion. If you put things into perspective you will find the answer. I’ve never been exited enough to do that salute. Have you? Would you? This is the part I think you are struggling with. If I'm excited I might have thrown my hand out towards somebody in that way, but I wouldn't know as it wouldn't have been a conscious action. Look at the end of the day if you think Musk was giving out nazi salutes at the inauguration of President Trump, who am I to say you are wrong, you see what you see. How about you, always in control and never get excited? Never thrown your hands over your face, never turned to someone as you a point a hand or finger in the direction of your disbelief. Of course I get exited and gesture. But not *that* gesture. It’s hardly something one would do naturally. Twice. It obviously is as he did it more than once as he travelled around 360 degrees acknowledging the crowd. But you haven't watched the speech so you wouldn't know Haven’t I? " I assumed you hadn't because of the way you are describing things. | |||
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" Take a moment to watch his whole speech, he was overly excited bouncing around the stage and was driven by emotion. If you put things into perspective you will find the answer. I’ve never been exited enough to do that salute. Have you? Would you? This is the part I think you are struggling with. If I'm excited I might have thrown my hand out towards somebody in that way, but I wouldn't know as it wouldn't have been a conscious action. Look at the end of the day if you think Musk was giving out nazi salutes at the inauguration of President Trump, who am I to say you are wrong, you see what you see. How about you, always in control and never get excited? Never thrown your hands over your face, never turned to someone as you a point a hand or finger in the direction of your disbelief. Of course I get exited and gesture. But not *that* gesture. It’s hardly something one would do naturally. Twice. It obviously is as he did it more than once as he travelled around 360 degrees acknowledging the crowd. But you haven't watched the speech so you wouldn't know Haven’t I? I assumed you hadn't because of the way you are describing things. " You mean I’m describing things in a way that you don’t agree with and so therefore must not have watched? | |||
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"Anyway… looks like Trump saved what probably is going to be the most controversial executive order for last.. not mentioned in any of his speeches, waiting till after the network evening news programs and everyone watching the college national football championship game Trump has either dismissed, commuted, or pardoned every single person jailed in relation to January 6th…. Including the leader or the oath keepers, and the leader of the proud boys, and everyone involved in violence, and assaulting members of the police…. Didn’t Biden pardon 5 members of his family for something like 10 years moments before trump was sworn in? What reason would someone have for doing that? Genuine question. " Because trump as said in the past that he would go after a lot of people in retribution Remember the vengeance list Trump said he would go after… I knew someone would bring up the 5, and to be honest it could look bad in isolation and to be honest I don’t think he needed to… but in context look at who else is covered under that pardon.. the likes of Liz Cheney, Adam schiff, Bennie Thompson, Alexander vindman, Michael fanone, and the list goes on… The common denominator… those people all involved in one way either with the impeachments of Ukraine, or January 6th… committee members, outspoken campaigners, those who took the stand as witnesses | |||
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"Anyway… looks like Trump saved what probably is going to be the most controversial executive order for last.. not mentioned in any of his speeches, waiting till after the network evening news programs and everyone watching the college national football championship game Trump has either dismissed, commuted, or pardoned every single person jailed in relation to January 6th…. Including the leader or the oath keepers, and the leader of the proud boys, and everyone involved in violence, and assaulting members of the police…. Didn’t Biden pardon 5 members of his family for something like 10 years moments before trump was sworn in? What reason would someone have for doing that? Genuine question. Because trump as said in the past that he would go after a lot of people in retribution Remember the vengeance list Trump said he would go after… I knew someone would bring up the 5, and to be honest it could look bad in isolation and to be honest I don’t think he needed to… but in context look at who else is covered under that pardon.. the likes of Liz Cheney, Adam schiff, Bennie Thompson, Alexander vindman, Michael fanone, and the list goes on… The common denominator… those people all involved in one way either with the impeachments of Ukraine, or January 6th… committee members, outspoken campaigners, those who took the stand as witnesses " So what you're saying is the US President/Government is actually capable of finding innocent people guilty because they want to? Not because they are guilty... | |||
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"God fearing, peace loving, trade loving, war monger. Waaaay out of his depth even the crowd were grimacing. I'm sure Jinping is going to hand over the canal, unless they have agreed a swap involving Taiwan. His comment about defending others borders - it is the best place to defend your own, what a dimwit does he not know that. Tariffs and taxes that are paid by the supplier, ueah sure they will. Renamed the Gulf of Mexico, well here's another the United States of North Korea, yep that's what it'll feel like in the US. With policies like this little rocket man in North Korea will have more friends globally than Tango man." It always makes me laugh when they talk about a reason for stronger borders is to stop drugs coming in… when 95% of the drugs coming in do so by plane! Short of more xray machines and drug sniffing dogs …. It’s a bit of pissing in the wind | |||
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" Take a moment to watch his whole speech, he was overly excited bouncing around the stage and was driven by emotion. If you put things into perspective you will find the answer. I’ve never been exited enough to do that salute. Have you? Would you? This is the part I think you are struggling with. If I'm excited I might have thrown my hand out towards somebody in that way, but I wouldn't know as it wouldn't have been a conscious action. Look at the end of the day if you think Musk was giving out nazi salutes at the inauguration of President Trump, who am I to say you are wrong, you see what you see. How about you, always in control and never get excited? Never thrown your hands over your face, never turned to someone as you a point a hand or finger in the direction of your disbelief. Of course I get exited and gesture. But not *that* gesture. It’s hardly something one would do naturally. Twice. It obviously is as he did it more than once as he travelled around 360 degrees acknowledging the crowd. But you haven't watched the speech so you wouldn't know Haven’t I? I assumed you hadn't because of the way you are describing things. You mean I’m describing things in a way that you don’t agree with and so therefore must not have watched? " Not at all, I have already mentioned that you have seen what you want to see and I can't change that. You have always had an axe to grind with Musk and Trump, which will significantly alter your optics, such is life for the next few years  | |||
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" Take a moment to watch his whole speech, he was overly excited bouncing around the stage and was driven by emotion. If you put things into perspective you will find the answer. I’ve never been exited enough to do that salute. Have you? Would you? This is the part I think you are struggling with. If I'm excited I might have thrown my hand out towards somebody in that way, but I wouldn't know as it wouldn't have been a conscious action. Look at the end of the day if you think Musk was giving out nazi salutes at the inauguration of President Trump, who am I to say you are wrong, you see what you see. How about you, always in control and never get excited? Never thrown your hands over your face, never turned to someone as you a point a hand or finger in the direction of your disbelief. Of course I get exited and gesture. But not *that* gesture. It’s hardly something one would do naturally. Twice. It obviously is as he did it more than once as he travelled around 360 degrees acknowledging the crowd. But you haven't watched the speech so you wouldn't know Haven’t I? I assumed you hadn't because of the way you are describing things. You mean I’m describing things in a way that you don’t agree with and so therefore must not have watched? Not at all, I have already mentioned that you have seen what you want to see and I can't change that. You have always had an axe to grind with Musk and Trump, which will significantly alter your optics, such is life for the next few years "I have an axe to grind with anyone making a gesture like that in public tbf. I’m surprised that anyone wouldn’t. | |||
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" Take a moment to watch his whole speech, he was overly excited bouncing around the stage and was driven by emotion. If you put things into perspective you will find the answer. I’ve never been exited enough to do that salute. Have you? Would you? This is the part I think you are struggling with. If I'm excited I might have thrown my hand out towards somebody in that way, but I wouldn't know as it wouldn't have been a conscious action. Look at the end of the day if you think Musk was giving out nazi salutes at the inauguration of President Trump, who am I to say you are wrong, you see what you see. How about you, always in control and never get excited? Never thrown your hands over your face, never turned to someone as you a point a hand or finger in the direction of your disbelief. Of course I get exited and gesture. But not *that* gesture. It’s hardly something one would do naturally. Twice. It obviously is as he did it more than once as he travelled around 360 degrees acknowledging the crowd. But you haven't watched the speech so you wouldn't know Haven’t I? I assumed you hadn't because of the way you are describing things. You mean I’m describing things in a way that you don’t agree with and so therefore must not have watched? Not at all, I have already mentioned that you have seen what you want to see and I can't change that. You have always had an axe to grind with Musk and Trump, which will significantly alter your optics, such is life for the next few years
I have an axe to grind with anyone making a gesture like that in public tbf. I’m surprised that anyone wouldn’t."My suggestion would be to grind an axe with the Guardian, read to the bottom of the article | |||
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"“It seems that Elon Musk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute, but again, we appreciate that people are on edge. In this moment, all sides should give one another a bit of grace, perhaps even the benefit of the doubt, and take a breath” Take a breath it’s going to be ok "If we can’t categorically say it *was* the salute, then we also can’t categorically say it *wasn’t* either. None of us know what the idiot was thinking in that moment. | |||
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"“It seems that Elon Musk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute, but again, we appreciate that people are on edge. In this moment, all sides should give one another a bit of grace, perhaps even the benefit of the doubt, and take a breath” Take a breath it’s going to be ok
If we can’t categorically say it *was* the salute, then we also can’t categorically say it *wasn’t* either. None of us know what the idiot was thinking in that moment. "That is the point, and you will side with your bias. If you look at Musk in many situations he is awkward in his posture and how he responds. Excited is not a good look for him, lets be honest. | |||
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"Can anyone hand on heart say that apart from musk (not Nazis and their supporters) they've seen anyone else who is excited and a bit emotional make that type of gesture twice? Any criteria, sport, entertainment anything..?" No. Nobody can. The attempts to defend it on social media are amusing, they can’t even decide if it was excitement (accidental) a ‘Roman salute’ or the thing about his heart. So much pedalling around to forgive the horrendous optics. | |||
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"Can anyone hand on heart say that apart from musk (not Nazis and their supporters) they've seen anyone else who is excited and a bit emotional make that type of gesture twice? Any criteria, sport, entertainment anything..?" I have seen stills. Unfortunately the videos seem to have been wioed off the face of Google, so can't confirm context. | |||
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"Can anyone hand on heart say that apart from musk (not Nazis and their supporters) they've seen anyone else who is excited and a bit emotional make that type of gesture twice? Any criteria, sport, entertainment anything..? No. Nobody can. The attempts to defend it on social media are amusing, they can’t even decide if it was excitement (accidental) a ‘Roman salute’ or the thing about his heart. So much pedalling around to forgive the horrendous optics. " Equally amusing is the other side of social media (and the MSM) who are absolutely fucking certain that it's a Nazi salute. | |||
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"Can anyone hand on heart say that apart from musk (not Nazis and their supporters) they've seen anyone else who is excited and a bit emotional make that type of gesture twice? Any criteria, sport, entertainment anything..? I have seen stills. Unfortunately the videos seem to have been wioed off the face of Google, so can't confirm context. " Maybe they'll put them back up.. The three black athletes at the Olympics doing the clenched fist is still there.. | |||
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"Anyway… looks like Trump saved what probably is going to be the most controversial executive order for last.. not mentioned in any of his speeches, waiting till after the network evening news programs and everyone watching the college national football championship game Trump has either dismissed, commuted, or pardoned every single person jailed in relation to January 6th…. Including the leader or the oath keepers, and the leader of the proud boys, and everyone involved in violence, and assaulting members of the police…. Didn’t Biden pardon 5 members of his family for something like 10 years moments before trump was sworn in? What reason would someone have for doing that? Genuine question. Because trump as said in the past that he would go after a lot of people in retribution Remember the vengeance list Trump said he would go after… I knew someone would bring up the 5, and to be honest it could look bad in isolation and to be honest I don’t think he needed to… but in context look at who else is covered under that pardon.. the likes of Liz Cheney, Adam schiff, Bennie Thompson, Alexander vindman, Michael fanone, and the list goes on… The common denominator… those people all involved in one way either with the impeachments of Ukraine, or January 6th… committee members, outspoken campaigners, those who took the stand as witnesses " Doesn't explain Fauci or his family members. Must be guilty of something to deserve a preemptive pardon. There are others you conveniently forget to mention. Milley comes to mind. | |||
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"Can anyone hand on heart say that apart from musk (not Nazis and their supporters) they've seen anyone else who is excited and a bit emotional make that type of gesture twice? Any criteria, sport, entertainment anything..?" I can't recall because it probably wasn't blown out of all proportion... Let's put some context around this, he made the gesture to the crowds in front of him and behind him, with the words my heart goes out to you. just before that he ran onto the platform throwing his hands in the air, straight up and at awkward angles. | |||
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"Can anyone hand on heart say that apart from musk (not Nazis and their supporters) they've seen anyone else who is excited and a bit emotional make that type of gesture twice? Any criteria, sport, entertainment anything..? I have seen stills. Unfortunately the videos seem to have been wioed off the face of Google, so can't confirm context. " Youtube: Full speech Elon Musk | |||
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"Held indoors now so the inevitable low turnout can be excused 🧐 Fuuuuuck we are in for a shitshow - the ripples on that side of the pond could turn into tsunamis over here. " or it was easier to keep him safe | |||
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"“It seems that Elon Musk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute, but again, we appreciate that people are on edge. In this moment, all sides should give one another a bit of grace, perhaps even the benefit of the doubt, and take a breath” Take a breath it’s going to be ok "Hey look …. His boss is a convicted, corrupt, sexist, misogynistic narcissist…. Something the vast majority of a (supposed) democratic and fair nation seems to overlook … so what’s a little nazi salute between friends here! 🤷♂️ R xx | |||
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"Held indoors now so the inevitable low turnout can be excused 🧐 Fuuuuuck we are in for a shitshow - the ripples on that side of the pond could turn into tsunamis over here. " Have you had your eyes closed for years ? The world is in a shitshow already, Wars, inflation, world scandals etc etc The Man has been in for 1 day | |||
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"The melt down so far has been fucking hilarious. I look forward to the next few months
I agree … and you’re right, this is going to be soooooo entertaining, it’s going to be the best comedy show on the planet! 🤣🤣.
R xx"And so it begins …. my WhatsApp inbox is already overflowing with funny memes … sets the scene I guess. Trump is unlikely to qualify for a Nobel prize …. But can see him getting a comedy BAFTA! 🤣 R xx | |||
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