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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done " Paul Whitehouse? Mrs x | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done " No it isn't a surprise, violence begets violence and the cycle repeats itself. Now, after 15 months, Hamas has a reservoir of new recruits, all embittered with scores to settle. You can't kill an ideology with bombs and bullets. | |||
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"How did they manage to rearm these fighters, especially now the Syrian routes would have been dismantled " Possibly got plenty of ordnance deep down in the tunnels, hopefully where the hostages are but as to how many time will tell.. | |||
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"How did they manage to rearm these fighters, especially now the Syrian routes would have been dismantled Possibly got plenty of ordnance deep down in the tunnels, hopefully where the hostages are but as to how many time will tell.. " That would be one hell of a stockpile! I'm guessing the IDF took whatever it found from wherever they found it. I know Israel were also taking out munition targets in other countries known to them as supplying Hamas. It is remarkable they kept it flowing in and managed to hide it away. | |||
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"How did they manage to rearm these fighters, especially now the Syrian routes would have been dismantled Possibly got plenty of ordnance deep down in the tunnels, hopefully where the hostages are but as to how many time will tell.. That would be one hell of a stockpile! I'm guessing the IDF took whatever it found from wherever they found it. I know Israel were also taking out munition targets in other countries known to them as supplying Hamas. It is remarkable they kept it flowing in and managed to hide it away." Lots of tunnels from Syria mainly, could be part of why Israel have taken land as a buffer plus the influence of Iran in Syria and the ease of moving rockets etc to supply Hezbollah and Hamas has been disrupted and degraded as you say.. | |||
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"Mary Whitehouse? Mrs x" I'll ignore your clumsy attempt seeing as you've rolled in from the pub when you clumsily posted and mention that; The passfield white paper, Is an indication of situation that was created by the machinations of the Zionist movement. | |||
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"Zionism started in the 1800s or didn't you know that? Mrs x" All this slipping sliding slippery side steppin& is impressive! And still you cherry pick obscure cobblers to jus[ify. How about sticking to the truth and relevant points? | |||
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"Zionism started in the 1800s or didn't you know that? Mrs x All this slipping sliding slippery side steppin& is impressive! And still you cherry pick obscure cobblers to jus[ify. How about sticking to the truth and relevant points?" I need some help please, finding it very hard to even understand what you are saying, Mrs x | |||
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"Few care about what's important. The peace plan has been around for many months, from last May, since when tens of thousands of people have died there, until it was signed this week. This is obscene. It highlights the agendas that these people have " 
Not a good look is it.
I wish someone could bring lasting peacenfor all through negotiation
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"Few care about what's important. The peace plan has been around for many months, from last May, since when tens of thousands of people have died there, until it was signed this week. This is obscene. It highlights the agendas that these people have
Not a good look is it.
I wish someone could bring lasting peacenfor all through negotiation
"Khartoum... look it up, Mrs x | |||
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"Few care about what's important. The peace plan has been around for many months, from last May, since when tens of thousands of people have died there, until it was signed this week. This is obscene. It highlights the agendas that these people have
Not a good look is it.
I wish someone could bring lasting peacenfor all through negotiation
"Never, it says in the Quran that some day all us infidels got to die | |||
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"Few care about what's important. The peace plan has been around for many months, from last May, since when tens of thousands of people have died there, until it was signed this week. This is obscene. It highlights the agendas that these people have
Not a good look is it.
I wish someone could bring lasting peacenfor all through negotiation
Never, it says in the Quran that some day all us infidels got to die "That's so true, once the Jews are gone then they'll move on to other groups, Mrs x | |||
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"Few care about what's important. The peace plan has been around for many months, from last May, since when tens of thousands of people have died there, until it was signed this week. This is obscene. It highlights the agendas that these people have
Not a good look is it.
I wish someone could bring lasting peacenfor all through negotiation
"There'll be no peace until in the middle east until one side is wiped out That's the reality | |||
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"Few care about what's important. The peace plan has been around for many months, from last May, since when tens of thousands of people have died there, until it was signed this week. This is obscene. It highlights the agendas that these people have
Not a good look is it.
I wish someone could bring lasting peacenfor all through negotiation
There'll be no peace until in the middle east until one side is wiped out
That's the reality "I disagree. If Hamas win and thrive, they will then pick fights with the other Islamic nut cases for dominance of the Middle East. I think the only chance for peace in the Middle East is if Israel take control of the whole lot. | |||
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"Few care about what's important. The peace plan has been around for many months, from last May, since when tens of thousands of people have died there, until it was signed this week. This is obscene. It highlights the agendas that these people have
Not a good look is it.
I wish someone could bring lasting peacenfor all through negotiation
There'll be no peace until in the middle east until one side is wiped out
That's the reality
I disagree. If Hamas win and thrive, they will then pick fights with the other Islamic nut cases for dominance of the Middle East. I think the only chance for peace in the Middle East is if Israel take control of the whole lot."I agree. I said one side There's clearly 1 side that is preferable to the other lol | |||
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"Few care about what's important. The peace plan has been around for many months, from last May, since when tens of thousands of people have died there, until it was signed this week. This is obscene. It highlights the agendas that these people have
Not a good look is it.
I wish someone could bring lasting peacenfor all through negotiation
There'll be no peace until in the middle east until one side is wiped out
That's the reality
I disagree. If Hamas win and thrive, they will then pick fights with the other Islamic nut cases for dominance of the Middle East. I think the only chance for peace in the Middle East is if Israel take control of the whole lot.
I agree.
I said one side
There's clearly 1 side that is preferable to the other lol"Oh, I see My point was more that if the side that won was Israel, some other nut case Islamic group would take a pop at them. There's a big queue of the fuckers. | |||
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"Few care about what's important. The peace plan has been around for many months, from last May, since when tens of thousands of people have died there, until it was signed this week. This is obscene. It highlights the agendas that these people have
Not a good look is it.
I wish someone could bring lasting peacenfor all through negotiation
There'll be no peace until in the middle east until one side is wiped out
That's the reality
I disagree. If Hamas win and thrive, they will then pick fights with the other Islamic nut cases for dominance of the Middle East. I think the only chance for peace in the Middle East is if Israel take control of the whole lot.
I agree.
I said one side
There's clearly 1 side that is preferable to the other lol
Oh, I see My point was more that if the side that won was Israel, some other nut case Islamic group would take a pop at them. There's a big queue of the fuckers."There has been more terrorist attacks by Islamic terrorists on Muslims than another group. They will just keep fighting anyone, Jews, other religions, other Muslim sects, secular groups, gays, whoever they chose at the time to fit in with their corruption of religious dogma, so they can pick and chose non-believers they don't agree with, so they can then hide behind this religion saying they are just fulfilling their God's commands. It's been going on since just after the creation of Islam, can't see it stopping anytime soon. Mrscx | |||
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". So what has it achieved? " Bigger picture ... Main backer of Hamas, Iran, bas been seriously weakened Hezbollah weakened. Most of its leadership destroyed. Nasrallah and other key figure are gone. Sryia overthrown and it's weaponry desotyrd. There is the option for a safer middle east if the moderate arabs actually wanted it | |||
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". So what has it achieved? Bigger picture ... Main backer of Hamas, Iran, bas been seriously weakened Hezbollah weakened. Most of its leadership destroyed. Nasrallah and other key figure are gone. Sryia overthrown and it's weaponry desotyrd. There is the option for a safer middle east if the moderate arabs actually wanted it " Agree with what you've said, these terrorist groups have been weakened. But unfortunately it's not the 'moderates' who are participating in these terrorists groups and I don't think negotiation will work with these extremists. It's sad but I think that the ceasefire with fail and that these people only stop once this evil, corrupted religious, ideology has been annihilated. I hope I'm wrong though, Mrs x | |||
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". So what has it achieved? Bigger picture ... Main backer of Hamas, Iran, bas been seriously weakened Hezbollah weakened. Most of its leadership destroyed. Nasrallah and other key figure are gone. Sryia overthrown and it's weaponry desotyrd. There is the option for a safer middle east if the moderate arabs actually wanted it " For the time being only | |||
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"Zionism started in the 1800s or didn't you know that? Mrs x All this slipping sliding slippery side steppin& is impressive! And still you cherry pick obscure cobblers to jus[ify. How about sticking to the truth and relevant points?I need some help please, finding it very hard to even understand what you are saying, Mrs x" Your working backwards: In the real world, people consider events and situations and after careful consideration they reach a conclusion. Youve decided on a conclusion that suits you , then you cherry pick "evidence" to suit your narrative, denying and ridiculing others no matter what they say. | |||
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". So what has it achieved? Bigger picture ... Main backer of Hamas, Iran, bas been seriously weakened Hezbollah weakened. Most of its leadership destroyed. Nasrallah and other key figure are gone. Sryia overthrown and it's weaponry desotyrd. There is the option for a safer middle east if the moderate arabs actually wanted it Agree with what you've said, these terrorist groups have been weakened. But unfortunately it's not the 'moderates' who are participating in these terrorists groups and I don't think negotiation will work with these extremists. It's sad but I think that the ceasefire with fail and that these people only stop once this evil, corrupted religious, ideology has been annihilated. I hope I'm wrong though, Mrs x " I fully agree The way forward would be to : 1. stop the Americans and Zionist extremists Makin Iran even worse and extreme by stop meddling there. 2. Get a grip on the Zionist extremist group by stopping them commit mass murder based on an ideology. 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. | |||
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" 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. " What are "genuine Jews" as opposed to, say, Jews generally? | |||
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" 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. What are "genuine Jews" as opposed to, say, Jews generally?" Or was that Islamic Jews and genuine Jews? (Sorry, didn't quite understand the nuance). | |||
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"Zionism started in the 1800s or didn't you know that? Mrs x All this slipping sliding slippery side steppin& is impressive! And still you cherry pick obscure cobblers to jus[ify. How about sticking to the truth and relevant points?I need some help please, finding it very hard to even understand what you are saying, Mrs x Your working backwards: In the real world, people consider events and situations and after careful consideration they reach a conclusion. Youve decided on a conclusion that suits you , then you cherry pick "evidence" to suit your narrative, denying and ridiculing others no matter what they say. " Sorry still need help in understanding what you are saying. Is it wrong to quote facts and evidence? Is that why you don't? It's so difficult to understand what you are saying. What i do understand is that you have no problem with my posts, you just ignore them in the main, never giving facts or evidence to refute what I say. You do seem to have a problem with me though and you seem to be very upset with me. Mrs x | |||
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". So what has it achieved? Bigger picture ... Main backer of Hamas, Iran, bas been seriously weakened Hezbollah weakened. Most of its leadership destroyed. Nasrallah and other key figure are gone. Sryia overthrown and it's weaponry desotyrd. There is the option for a safer middle east if the moderate arabs actually wanted it Agree with what you've said, these terrorist groups have been weakened. But unfortunately it's not the 'moderates' who are participating in these terrorists groups and I don't think negotiation will work with these extremists. It's sad but I think that the ceasefire with fail and that these people only stop once this evil, corrupted religious, ideology has been annihilated. I hope I'm wrong though, Mrs x I fully agree The way forward would be to : 1. stop the Americans and Zionist extremists Makin Iran even worse and extreme by stop meddling there. 2. Get a grip on the Zionist extremist group by stopping them commit mass murder based on an ideology. 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. " I see there's no mention of Hamas and stopping them. Is this because Hamas is not Jewish? Any Zionism is not extremist, and which group has committed mass murder, well other than Hamas but you'll never admit to that? Mrsxx | |||
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". So what has it achieved? Bigger picture ... Main backer of Hamas, Iran, bas been seriously weakened Hezbollah weakened. Most of its leadership destroyed. Nasrallah and other key figure are gone. Sryia overthrown and it's weaponry desotyrd. There is the option for a safer middle east if the moderate arabs actually wanted it Agree with what you've said, these terrorist groups have been weakened. But unfortunately it's not the 'moderates' who are participating in these terrorists groups and I don't think negotiation will work with these extremists. It's sad but I think that the ceasefire with fail and that these people only stop once this evil, corrupted religious, ideology has been annihilated. I hope I'm wrong though, Mrs x I fully agree The way forward would be to : 1. stop the Americans and Zionist extremists Makin Iran even worse and extreme by stop meddling there. 2. Get a grip on the Zionist extremist group by stopping them commit mass murder based on an ideology. 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. " The people of Iran would strongly disagree with that sentiment.. They want change and an end to a regime that butchers it's citizens for wanting to be live without oppression.. | |||
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" 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. What are "genuine Jews" as opposed to, say, Jews generally?" I think it refers to those Jews he likes, do don't worry about it i don't think there's very many of them, Mrs x | |||
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". So what has it achieved? Bigger picture ... Main backer of Hamas, Iran, bas been seriously weakened Hezbollah weakened. Most of its leadership destroyed. Nasrallah and other key figure are gone. Sryia overthrown and it's weaponry desotyrd. There is the option for a safer middle east if the moderate arabs actually wanted it Agree with what you've said, these terrorist groups have been weakened. But unfortunately it's not the 'moderates' who are participating in these terrorists groups and I don't think negotiation will work with these extremists. It's sad but I think that the ceasefire with fail and that these people only stop once this evil, corrupted religious, ideology has been annihilated. I hope I'm wrong though, Mrs x I fully agree The way forward would be to : 1. stop the Americans and Zionist extremists Makin Iran even worse and extreme by stop meddling there. 2. Get a grip on the Zionist extremist group by stopping them commit mass murder based on an ideology. 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. I see there's no mention of Hamas and stopping them. Is this because Hamas is not Jewish? Any Zionism is not extremist, and which group has committed mass murder, well other than Hamas but you'll never admit to that? Mrsxx" Should read 'And' Zionism not 'Any' Zionism because there are individuals that do things that are wrong and hide behind a corruption of Zionism just like there are Islam terrorists who hide behind a corruption of Islam to justify their heinous crimes. So not all Muslims are terrorists just like not all Zionists are extreme but don't suppose you'll ever get this point. Mrs x | |||
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" 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. What are "genuine Jews" as opposed to, say, Jews generally?" I can't be arsed to be sent on a fool's errand by typing it all in - again! Google the likes of Na'amod | |||
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" 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. What are "genuine Jews" as opposed to, say, Jews generally?I think it refers to those Jews he likes, do don't worry about it i don't think there's very many of them, Mrs x" More than you think. And who's being anti semetic now?! | |||
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". So what has it achieved? Bigger picture ... Main backer of Hamas, Iran, bas been seriously weakened Hezbollah weakened. Most of its leadership destroyed. Nasrallah and other key figure are gone. Sryia overthrown and it's weaponry desotyrd. There is the option for a safer middle east if the moderate arabs actually wanted it Agree with what you've said, these terrorist groups have been weakened. But unfortunately it's not the 'moderates' who are participating in these terrorists groups and I don't think negotiation will work with these extremists. It's sad but I think that the ceasefire with fail and that these people only stop once this evil, corrupted religious, ideology has been annihilated. I hope I'm wrong though, Mrs x I fully agree The way forward would be to : 1. stop the Americans and Zionist extremists Makin Iran even worse and extreme by stop meddling there. 2. Get a grip on the Zionist extremist group by stopping them commit mass murder based on an ideology. 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. The people of Iran would strongly disagree with that sentiment.. They want change and an end to a regime that butchers it's citizens for wanting to be live without oppression.. " Possibly too late since the CIA toppled a moderate govt in Iran leading to a revolution. We now have an Iran with a more hardline than ever. All thanks to American self interest. | |||
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". So what has it achieved? Bigger picture ... Main backer of Hamas, Iran, bas been seriously weakened Hezbollah weakened. Most of its leadership destroyed. Nasrallah and other key figure are gone. Sryia overthrown and it's weaponry desotyrd. There is the option for a safer middle east if the moderate arabs actually wanted it Agree with what you've said, these terrorist groups have been weakened. But unfortunately it's not the 'moderates' who are participating in these terrorists groups and I don't think negotiation will work with these extremists. It's sad but I think that the ceasefire with fail and that these people only stop once this evil, corrupted religious, ideology has been annihilated. I hope I'm wrong though, Mrs x I fully agree The way forward would be to : 1. stop the Americans and Zionist extremists Makin Iran even worse and extreme by stop meddling there. 2. Get a grip on the Zionist extremist group by stopping them commit mass murder based on an ideology. 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. I see there's no mention of Hamas and stopping them. Is this because Hamas is not Jewish? Any Zionism is not extremist, and which group has committed mass murder, well other than Hamas but you'll never admit to that? MrsxxShould read 'And' Zionism not 'Any' Zionism because there are individuals that do things that are wrong and hide behind a corruption of Zionism just like there are Islam terrorists who hide behind a corruption of Islam to justify their heinous crimes. So not all Muslims are terrorists just like not all Zionists are extreme but don't suppose you'll ever get this point. Mrs x" The failure of what your saying is the lack of ability to differentiate. Not sure if that's deliberate or just your lack of understanding | |||
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" 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. What are "genuine Jews" as opposed to, say, Jews generally? I can't be arsed to be sent on a fool's errand by typing it all in - again! Google the likes of Na'amod " Done. Googled. Their website identifies them as: "Jews of all observances, denominations and backgrounds, including Jews of colour, Jews by choice and Jews from secular or interfaith families." And this is your definition of "genuine" Jews? | |||
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"Zionism started in the 1800s or didn't you know that? Mrs x All this slipping sliding slippery side steppin& is impressive! And still you cherry pick obscure cobblers to jus[ify. How about sticking to the truth and relevant points?I need some help please, finding it very hard to even understand what you are saying, Mrs x Your working backwards: In the real world, people consider events and situations and after careful consideration they reach a conclusion. Youve decided on a conclusion that suits you , then you cherry pick "evidence" to suit your narrative, denying and ridiculing others no matter what they say. Sorry still need help in understanding what you are saying. Is it wrong to quote facts and evidence? Is that why you don't? It's so difficult to understand what you are saying. What i do understand is that you have no problem with my posts, you just ignore them in the main, never giving facts or evidence to refute what I say. You do seem to have a problem with me though and you seem to be very upset with me. Mrs x" Yes you can add Hamas hesbolah in there too! And yes - I've seen the results of what the likes of you represent | |||
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" 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. What are "genuine Jews" as opposed to, say, Jews generally? I can't be arsed to be sent on a fool's errand by typing it all in - again! Google the likes of Na'amod Done. Googled. Their website identifies them as: "Jews of all observances, denominations and backgrounds, including Jews of colour, Jews by choice and Jews from secular or interfaith families." And this is your definition of "genuine" Jews?" Read about the values they have that does not align with Zionism Google up Jews against Zionism too | |||
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". So what has it achieved? Bigger picture ... Main backer of Hamas, Iran, bas been seriously weakened Hezbollah weakened. Most of its leadership destroyed. Nasrallah and other key figure are gone. Sryia overthrown and it's weaponry desotyrd. There is the option for a safer middle east if the moderate arabs actually wanted it Agree with what you've said, these terrorist groups have been weakened. But unfortunately it's not the 'moderates' who are participating in these terrorists groups and I don't think negotiation will work with these extremists. It's sad but I think that the ceasefire with fail and that these people only stop once this evil, corrupted religious, ideology has been annihilated. I hope I'm wrong though, Mrs x I fully agree The way forward would be to : 1. stop the Americans and Zionist extremists Makin Iran even worse and extreme by stop meddling there. 2. Get a grip on the Zionist extremist group by stopping them commit mass murder based on an ideology. 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. I see there's no mention of Hamas and stopping them. Is this because Hamas is not Jewish? Any Zionism is not extremist, and which group has committed mass murder, well other than Hamas but you'll never admit to that? MrsxxShould read 'And' Zionism not 'Any' Zionism because there are individuals that do things that are wrong and hide behind a corruption of Zionism just like there are Islam terrorists who hide behind a corruption of Islam to justify their heinous crimes. So not all Muslims are terrorists just like not all Zionists are extreme but don't suppose you'll ever get this point. Mrs x The failure of what your saying is the lack of ability to differentiate. Not sure if that's deliberate or just your lack of understanding " Still can't understand what you are saying. Someone definitely has a problem with being able to differentiate between the original form of Zionism and the corruption of this by some to use this corrupted form commit their wrongful acts. See how I compare two different forms of something to compare between them, that's me differentiating between them. Just to make it easier for you, Cambridge Dictionary definition is: 'the act of showing or finding difference between things that are compared.' So someone is lacking here and it's not me. Haha don't know if you are just trying to be funny but you do make me laugh. Mrs x | |||
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"Zionism started in the 1800s or didn't you know that? Mrs x All this slipping sliding slippery side steppin& is impressive! And still you cherry pick obscure cobblers to jus[ify. How about sticking to the truth and relevant points?I need some help please, finding it very hard to even understand what you are saying, Mrs x Your working backwards: In the real world, people consider events and situations and after careful consideration they reach a conclusion. Youve decided on a conclusion that suits you , then you cherry pick "evidence" to suit your narrative, denying and ridiculing others no matter what they say. Sorry still need help in understanding what you are saying. Is it wrong to quote facts and evidence? Is that why you don't? It's so difficult to understand what you are saying. What i do understand is that you have no problem with my posts, you just ignore them in the main, never giving facts or evidence to refute what I say. You do seem to have a problem with me though and you seem to be very upset with me. Mrs x Yes you can add Hamas hesbolah in there too! And yes - I've seen the results of what the likes of you represent " So what are the results of my representation? Mrs x | |||
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" 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. What are "genuine Jews" as opposed to, say, Jews generally? I can't be arsed to be sent on a fool's errand by typing it all in - again! Google the likes of Na'amod Done. Googled. Their website identifies them as: "Jews of all observances, denominations and backgrounds, including Jews of colour, Jews by choice and Jews from secular or interfaith families." And this is your definition of "genuine" Jews? Read about the values they have that does not align with Zionism Google up Jews against Zionism too " Got it. Jews need to reject Zionism to be genuine. | |||
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" 3. Make room for both Islamic AND genuine Jews to flourish and then come to some sort of arrangement. What are "genuine Jews" as opposed to, say, Jews generally? I can't be arsed to be sent on a fool's errand by typing it all in - again! Google the likes of Na'amod Done. Googled. Their website identifies them as: "Jews of all observances, denominations and backgrounds, including Jews of colour, Jews by choice and Jews from secular or interfaith families." And this is your definition of "genuine" Jews? Read about the values they have that does not align with Zionism Google up Jews against Zionism too Got it. Jews need to reject Zionism to be genuine." So where they all going to go? Mrs x | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done " Interesting thing to say. Hamas would have replace 15.000 odd “fighters”? Source please. (Popcorns ready) | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done Interesting thing to say. Hamas would have replace 15.000 odd “fighters”? Source please. (Popcorns ready)" It's bravado i think. Whilst there might be plenty of young men out for revenge, there's the logistics behind it all. The time it would just take to train them would seem to make this statement an exaggeration. Islamic terrorism has taken quite a pounding during this war. Most of the Axis of Resistance is much weaker currently. Mrs x | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done Interesting thing to say. Hamas would have replace 15.000 odd “fighters”? Source please. (Popcorns ready) It's bravado i think. Whilst there might be plenty of young men out for revenge, there's the logistics behind it all. The time it would just take to train them would seem to make this statement an exaggeration. Islamic terrorism has taken quite a pounding during this war. Most of the Axis of Resistance is much weaker currently. Mrs x " This war has just seeded another generation of terrorists intent on revenge. Sadly, the cycle of war and violence is inevitable. A braver and more enlightened leader than Netanyahu would have responded to the Music Festival attacks in a firm yet more constructive way. A way that might have brought the hope of peace. Now there is none. | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done Interesting thing to say. Hamas would have replace 15.000 odd “fighters”? Source please. (Popcorns ready) It's bravado i think. Whilst there might be plenty of young men out for revenge, there's the logistics behind it all. The time it would just take to train them would seem to make this statement an exaggeration. Islamic terrorism has taken quite a pounding during this war. Most of the Axis of Resistance is much weaker currently. Mrs x This war has just seeded another generation of terrorists intent on revenge. Sadly, the cycle of war and violence is inevitable. A braver and more enlightened leader than Netanyahu would have responded to the Music Festival attacks in a firm yet more constructive way. A way that might have brought the hope of peace. Now there is none." So why has Nazism never raised its evil head again in Germany. Millions of young German boys left behind in a country that was devastated, in a way that never happened after WW1, fatherless, brotherless and yet they never rose up to carry on the fight. Why didn't they take up arms because using your argument it would appear inevitable? This is more relevant given that Germany followed Nazism due to the consequences of Versaille and their feelings of persecution following this. It's an example of where an evil ideology can be eradicated rather than negotiated with. You simply cannot negotiate with Islamic fundamentalist. If you can believe you can where are you getting the evidence for this? Mrs x | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done Interesting thing to say. Hamas would have replace 15.000 odd “fighters”? Source please. (Popcorns ready) It's bravado i think. Whilst there might be plenty of young men out for revenge, there's the logistics behind it all. The time it would just take to train them would seem to make this statement an exaggeration. Islamic terrorism has taken quite a pounding during this war. Most of the Axis of Resistance is much weaker currently. Mrs x This war has just seeded another generation of terrorists intent on revenge. Sadly, the cycle of war and violence is inevitable. A braver and more enlightened leader than Netanyahu would have responded to the Music Festival attacks in a firm yet more constructive way. A way that might have brought the hope of peace. Now there is none." I agree on the point about a new generation of lambs for Hamas to send of for slaughter, said so on here in the early days of Israel response especially after they cut power and water and greatly reduced the humanitarian aid.. Exactly the same happened after internment in northern Ireland.. On the second point I'm not sure how else they could go after Hamas who hide behind women and children, under hospitals etc without that fucking awful phrase collateral damage as they were not prepared to play the long game plus at the time they had public support.. | |||
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"Few care about what's important. The peace plan has been around for many months, from last May, since when tens of thousands of people have died there, until it was signed this week. This is obscene. It highlights the agendas that these people have
Not a good look is it.
I wish someone could bring lasting peacenfor all through negotiation
Never, it says in the Quran that some day all us infidels got to die "I wonder what the Torah says | |||
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"Few care about what's important. The peace plan has been around for many months, from last May, since when tens of thousands of people have died there, until it was signed this week. This is obscene. It highlights the agendas that these people have
Not a good look is it.
I wish someone could bring lasting peacenfor all through negotiation
Never, it says in the Quran that some day all us infidels got to die
I wonder what the Torah says "Probably the same as the Quran and the Bible about killing non-believers. Just grateful the Jews haven't interpreted their Scripture to mean terrorising others around the globe. Mrs x | |||
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"Few care about what's important. The peace plan has been around for many months, from last May, since when tens of thousands of people have died there, until it was signed this week. This is obscene. It highlights the agendas that these people have
Not a good look is it.
I wish someone could bring lasting peacenfor all through negotiation
Never, it says in the Quran that some day all us infidels got to die
I wonder what the Torah says "The Torah, and Jews, are generally ambivalent toward gentiles (non-Jews), the main theme being that Jews should regard gentiles as "strangers to treat with kindness". You only have to look at the primary prophets chosen by each faith to understand the differences in attitudes toward non-believers in both faiths. One was a "law-giver", teacher and leader. The other was a mass-murdering war-lord. | |||
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"Few care about what's important. The peace plan has been around for many months, from last May, since when tens of thousands of people have died there, until it was signed this week. This is obscene. It highlights the agendas that these people have
Not a good look is it.
I wish someone could bring lasting peacenfor all through negotiation
Never, it says in the Quran that some day all us infidels got to die
I wonder what the Torah says
The Torah, and Jews, are generally ambivalent toward gentiles (non-Jews), the main theme being that Jews should regard gentiles as "strangers to treat with kindness". You only have to look at the primary prophets chosen by each faith to understand the differences in attitudes toward non-believers in both faiths. One was a "law-giver", teacher and leader. The other was a mass-murdering war-lord."More informative than my answer, Mrs x | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done What has it achieved? The bloodiest of noses to the Hamas and the Iranian puppet masters. Do you think they will try to attempt an act of terrorism like this again, any time soon? " Can always just tell Hamasctheyve been very naughty boys and ask them not to do it again. Maybe that's what he's suggesting, Mrs x | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done Interesting thing to say. Hamas would have replace 15.000 odd “fighters”? Source please. (Popcorns ready) It's bravado i think. Whilst there might be plenty of young men out for revenge, there's the logistics behind it all. The time it would just take to train them would seem to make this statement an exaggeration. Islamic terrorism has taken quite a pounding during this war. Most of the Axis of Resistance is much weaker currently. Mrs x This war has just seeded another generation of terrorists intent on revenge. Sadly, the cycle of war and violence is inevitable. A braver and more enlightened leader than Netanyahu would have responded to the Music Festival attacks in a firm yet more constructive way. A way that might have brought the hope of peace. Now there is none.So why has Nazism never raised its evil head again in Germany. Millions of young German boys left behind in a country that was devastated, in a way that never happened after WW1, fatherless, brotherless and yet they never rose up to carry on the fight. Why didn't they take up arms because using your argument it would appear inevitable? This is more relevant given that Germany followed Nazism due to the consequences of Versaille and their feelings of persecution following this. It's an example of where an evil ideology can be eradicated rather than negotiated with. You simply cannot negotiate with Islamic fundamentalist. If you can believe you can where are you getting the evidence for this? Mrs x" It hasn't happened (yet) it's true. But wait, Trump is pushing Germany (and Japan) to re-arm. Then what? A return of Prussian militarism? AfD anybody? | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done What has it achieved? The bloodiest of noses to the Hamas and the Iranian puppet masters. Do you think they will try to attempt an act of terrorism like this again, any time soon? " Palestinian civilians deaths are likely 3X that of militants. 1.9 million displaced, homes destroyed, relatives lost. Hamas recruitment queues will resemble happy hour at spoons The west will have to wait to see if there’s any retaliation from the Islam’s, it will undoubtedly be civilians again that pay. | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done Interesting thing to say. Hamas would have replace 15.000 odd “fighters”? Source please. (Popcorns ready) It's bravado i think. Whilst there might be plenty of young men out for revenge, there's the logistics behind it all. The time it would just take to train them would seem to make this statement an exaggeration. Islamic terrorism has taken quite a pounding during this war. Most of the Axis of Resistance is much weaker currently. Mrs x This war has just seeded another generation of terrorists intent on revenge. Sadly, the cycle of war and violence is inevitable. A braver and more enlightened leader than Netanyahu would have responded to the Music Festival attacks in a firm yet more constructive way. A way that might have brought the hope of peace. Now there is none.So why has Nazism never raised its evil head again in Germany. Millions of young German boys left behind in a country that was devastated, in a way that never happened after WW1, fatherless, brotherless and yet they never rose up to carry on the fight. Why didn't they take up arms because using your argument it would appear inevitable? This is more relevant given that Germany followed Nazism due to the consequences of Versaille and their feelings of persecution following this. It's an example of where an evil ideology can be eradicated rather than negotiated with. You simply cannot negotiate with Islamic fundamentalist. If you can believe you can where are you getting the evidence for this? Mrs x It hasn't happened (yet) it's true. But wait, Trump is pushing Germany (and Japan) to re-arm. Then what? A return of Prussian militarism? AfD anybody?" Come on he's asking for all members of Nato to pay their way. So why could Nazism, and since you mentioned it the colonial ambitions of Japan, be stopped by force yet it's not possible to do the same in the Middle East? It's worked before in the region, why not again? Mrs x | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done Interesting thing to say. Hamas would have replace 15.000 odd “fighters”? Source please. (Popcorns ready) It's bravado i think. Whilst there might be plenty of young men out for revenge, there's the logistics behind it all. The time it would just take to train them would seem to make this statement an exaggeration. Islamic terrorism has taken quite a pounding during this war. Most of the Axis of Resistance is much weaker currently. Mrs x This war has just seeded another generation of terrorists intent on revenge. Sadly, the cycle of war and violence is inevitable. A braver and more enlightened leader than Netanyahu would have responded to the Music Festival attacks in a firm yet more constructive way. A way that might have brought the hope of peace. Now there is none.So why has Nazism never raised its evil head again in Germany. Millions of young German boys left behind in a country that was devastated, in a way that never happened after WW1, fatherless, brotherless and yet they never rose up to carry on the fight. Why didn't they take up arms because using your argument it would appear inevitable? This is more relevant given that Germany followed Nazism due to the consequences of Versaille and their feelings of persecution following this. It's an example of where an evil ideology can be eradicated rather than negotiated with. You simply cannot negotiate with Islamic fundamentalist. If you can believe you can where are you getting the evidence for this? Mrs x It hasn't happened (yet) it's true. But wait, Trump is pushing Germany (and Japan) to re-arm. Then what? A return of Prussian militarism? AfD anybody?Come on he's asking for all members of Nato to pay their way. So why could Nazism, and since you mentioned it the colonial ambitions of Japan, be stopped by force yet it's not possible to do the same in the Middle East? It's worked before in the region, why not again? Mrs x" My meaning was, Trump's threat to exit NATO would inevitably require Germany and Japan to re-arm. Not sure that's a good thing tbh. As for the ME, it's way more toxic than the cases you mention and steeped in ideology and religion (on all sides). There will never be peace through 'total victory' as happened (so far) after WWII. | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done What has it achieved? The bloodiest of noses to the Hamas and the Iranian puppet masters. Do you think they will try to attempt an act of terrorism like this again, any time soon? Palestinian civilians deaths are likely 3X that of militants. 1.9 million displaced, homes destroyed, relatives lost. Hamas recruitment queues will resemble happy hour at spoons The west will have to wait to see if there’s any retaliation from the Islam’s, it will undoubtedly be civilians again that pay. " I keep reading, Hamas recruitment will grow and is swelling. What does that actually tell us? | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done What has it achieved? The bloodiest of noses to the Hamas and the Iranian puppet masters. Do you think they will try to attempt an act of terrorism like this again, any time soon? Palestinian civilians deaths are likely 3X that of militants. 1.9 million displaced, homes destroyed, relatives lost. Hamas recruitment queues will resemble happy hour at spoons The west will have to wait to see if there’s any retaliation from the Islam’s, it will undoubtedly be civilians again that pay. I keep reading, Hamas recruitment will grow and is swelling. What does that actually tell us?" Humans resent being bombed | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done What has it achieved? The bloodiest of noses to the Hamas and the Iranian puppet masters. Do you think they will try to attempt an act of terrorism like this again, any time soon? Palestinian civilians deaths are likely 3X that of militants. 1.9 million displaced, homes destroyed, relatives lost. Hamas recruitment queues will resemble happy hour at spoons The west will have to wait to see if there’s any retaliation from the Islam’s, it will undoubtedly be civilians again that pay. I keep reading, Hamas recruitment will grow and is swelling. What does that actually tell us? Humans resent being bombed " But Japan didn't carry on after Hiroshima, Germany after Dresden or Cologne. These more to it than that isn't there. If it wasn't then Israel have been attacked mist days for years but it's only a problem when they retaliate, Mrs x | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done Interesting thing to say. Hamas would have replace 15.000 odd “fighters”? Source please. (Popcorns ready) It's bravado i think. Whilst there might be plenty of young men out for revenge, there's the logistics behind it all. The time it would just take to train them would seem to make this statement an exaggeration. Islamic terrorism has taken quite a pounding during this war. Most of the Axis of Resistance is much weaker currently. Mrs x This war has just seeded another generation of terrorists intent on revenge. Sadly, the cycle of war and violence is inevitable. A braver and more enlightened leader than Netanyahu would have responded to the Music Festival attacks in a firm yet more constructive way. A way that might have brought the hope of peace. Now there is none.So why has Nazism never raised its evil head again in Germany. Millions of young German boys left behind in a country that was devastated, in a way that never happened after WW1, fatherless, brotherless and yet they never rose up to carry on the fight. Why didn't they take up arms because using your argument it would appear inevitable? This is more relevant given that Germany followed Nazism due to the consequences of Versaille and their feelings of persecution following this. It's an example of where an evil ideology can be eradicated rather than negotiated with. You simply cannot negotiate with Islamic fundamentalist. If you can believe you can where are you getting the evidence for this? Mrs x It hasn't happened (yet) it's true. But wait, Trump is pushing Germany (and Japan) to re-arm. Then what? A return of Prussian militarism? AfD anybody?Come on he's asking for all members of Nato to pay their way. So why could Nazism, and since you mentioned it the colonial ambitions of Japan, be stopped by force yet it's not possible to do the same in the Middle East? It's worked before in the region, why not again? Mrs x My meaning was, Trump's threat to exit NATO would inevitably require Germany and Japan to re-arm. Not sure that's a good thing tbh. As for the ME, it's way more toxic than the cases you mention and steeped in ideology and religion (on all sides). There will never be peace through 'total victory' as happened (so far) after WWII." Crusades?.. Mrs x | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done What has it achieved? The bloodiest of noses to the Hamas and the Iranian puppet masters. Do you think they will try to attempt an act of terrorism like this again, any time soon? Palestinian civilians deaths are likely 3X that of militants. 1.9 million displaced, homes destroyed, relatives lost. Hamas recruitment queues will resemble happy hour at spoons The west will have to wait to see if there’s any retaliation from the Islam’s, it will undoubtedly be civilians again that pay. I keep reading, Hamas recruitment will grow and is swelling. What does that actually tell us? Humans resent being bombed " Do you think that is a rounded opinion or an opinion that helps justify further issues down the line? | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done Interesting thing to say. Hamas would have replace 15.000 odd “fighters”? Source please. (Popcorns ready) It's bravado i think. Whilst there might be plenty of young men out for revenge, there's the logistics behind it all. The time it would just take to train them would seem to make this statement an exaggeration. Islamic terrorism has taken quite a pounding during this war. Most of the Axis of Resistance is much weaker currently. Mrs x This war has just seeded another generation of terrorists intent on revenge. Sadly, the cycle of war and violence is inevitable. A braver and more enlightened leader than Netanyahu would have responded to the Music Festival attacks in a firm yet more constructive way. A way that might have brought the hope of peace. Now there is none. I agree on the point about a new generation of lambs for Hamas to send of for slaughter, said so on here in the early days of Israel response especially after they cut power and water and greatly reduced the humanitarian aid.. Exactly the same happened after internment in northern Ireland.. On the second point I'm not sure how else they could go after Hamas who hide behind women and children, under hospitals etc without that fucking awful phrase collateral damage as they were not prepared to play the long game plus at the time they had public support.. What I meant was that Israel could have given a short sharp military response followed by some engagement with Hamas on the underlying issues. Maybe this is naïve and stand no chance of working. But what has reducing Gaza to rubble and 40,000 deaths brought other than sowing the seeds of the next Middle East war? " Wanting less numbers of innocent deaths isn't naive.. There's no way that scenario could have happened given the justified outrage after the barbarity of Oct 7, it was literally how the brains behind it imagined it hoped it would go.. Israel under attack from outside with Hezbollah and Houthi and drawn into another urban war in Gaza after the previous one had cost then dearly plus the West Bank as another area of conflict.. No way would Netanyahu and his right wing support in government and discuss with Hamas what they want, two state solution etc in 'normal times' let alone once they were intent on destroying them (which is impossible).. If the plan works and Israel gets it's hostages back dead and alive I think they'll control what goes in so severely in relation to any rebuilding it'll take years .. Not sure how many Palestinians will want to stay there.. | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done Interesting thing to say. Hamas would have replace 15.000 odd “fighters”? Source please. (Popcorns ready) It's bravado i think. Whilst there might be plenty of young men out for revenge, there's the logistics behind it all. The time it would just take to train them would seem to make this statement an exaggeration. Islamic terrorism has taken quite a pounding during this war. Most of the Axis of Resistance is much weaker currently. Mrs x This war has just seeded another generation of terrorists intent on revenge. Sadly, the cycle of war and violence is inevitable. A braver and more enlightened leader than Netanyahu would have responded to the Music Festival attacks in a firm yet more constructive way. A way that might have brought the hope of peace. Now there is none. I agree on the point about a new generation of lambs for Hamas to send of for slaughter, said so on here in the early days of Israel response especially after they cut power and water and greatly reduced the humanitarian aid.. Exactly the same happened after internment in northern Ireland.. On the second point I'm not sure how else they could go after Hamas who hide behind women and children, under hospitals etc without that fucking awful phrase collateral damage as they were not prepared to play the long game plus at the time they had public support.. What I meant was that Israel could have given a short sharp military response followed by some engagement with Hamas on the underlying issues. Maybe this is naïve and stand no chance of working. But what has reducing Gaza to rubble and 40,000 deaths brought other than sowing the seeds of the next Middle East war? Wanting less numbers of innocent deaths isn't naive.. There's no way that scenario could have happened given the justified outrage after the barbarity of Oct 7, it was literally how the brains behind it imagined it hoped it would go.. Israel under attack from outside with Hezbollah and Houthi and drawn into another urban war in Gaza after the previous one had cost then dearly plus the West Bank as another area of conflict.. No way would Netanyahu and his right wing support in government and discuss with Hamas what they want, two state solution etc in 'normal times' let alone once they were intent on destroying them (which is impossible).. If the plan works and Israel gets it's hostages back dead and alive I think they'll control what goes in so severely in relation to any rebuilding it'll take years .. Not sure how many Palestinians will want to stay there.." It didn't happen because of the unfortunate coincidence of a thuggish Israeli leader and weak and incapacitated US president. | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done Interesting thing to say. Hamas would have replace 15.000 odd “fighters”? Source please. (Popcorns ready) It's bravado i think. Whilst there might be plenty of young men out for revenge, there's the logistics behind it all. The time it would just take to train them would seem to make this statement an exaggeration. Islamic terrorism has taken quite a pounding during this war. Most of the Axis of Resistance is much weaker currently. Mrs x This war has just seeded another generation of terrorists intent on revenge. Sadly, the cycle of war and violence is inevitable. A braver and more enlightened leader than Netanyahu would have responded to the Music Festival attacks in a firm yet more constructive way. A way that might have brought the hope of peace. Now there is none. I agree on the point about a new generation of lambs for Hamas to send of for slaughter, said so on here in the early days of Israel response especially after they cut power and water and greatly reduced the humanitarian aid.. Exactly the same happened after internment in northern Ireland.. On the second point I'm not sure how else they could go after Hamas who hide behind women and children, under hospitals etc without that fucking awful phrase collateral damage as they were not prepared to play the long game plus at the time they had public support.. What I meant was that Israel could have given a short sharp military response followed by some engagement with Hamas on the underlying issues. Maybe this is naïve and stand no chance of working. But what has reducing Gaza to rubble and 40,000 deaths brought other than sowing the seeds of the next Middle East war? Wanting less numbers of innocent deaths isn't naive.. There's no way that scenario could have happened given the justified outrage after the barbarity of Oct 7, it was literally how the brains behind it imagined it hoped it would go.. Israel under attack from outside with Hezbollah and Houthi and drawn into another urban war in Gaza after the previous one had cost then dearly plus the West Bank as another area of conflict.. No way would Netanyahu and his right wing support in government and discuss with Hamas what they want, two state solution etc in 'normal times' let alone once they were intent on destroying them (which is impossible).. If the plan works and Israel gets it's hostages back dead and alive I think they'll control what goes in so severely in relation to any rebuilding it'll take years .. Not sure how many Palestinians will want to stay there.. It didn't happen because of the unfortunate coincidence of a thuggish Israeli leader and weak and incapacitated US president." Tehran knew how it would play out with Netanyahu (the ease of the actual attacks probably even surprised them) but yes perhaps they thought Biden would reign in Israel to a greater degree.. | |||
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"This post highlights something very important. Why is it that some people are peace negotiators, some volunteer to deliver humanitarian aid, and others volunteer to talk nonsense about it on a swingers forum! " So rather than challenge a post, and given a reasoned rebuttale as to why you disagree with it, maybe even provide a counter opinion, you just decided to challenge the poster. I don't know why you did this, I can only presume in the absence of any substantial that you thought my mention of the Crusades to be nonsensical. After all why mention a conflict from hundreds of years ago, that was fought by roughly the same players, over the same region, using a corruption of a religion to justify its aims. It's not similar at all. And looking at the past never helps with the problems of the present, it's just nonsense. After all they don't teach Caesars tactics at Sandhurst still, or Napolean's or Alexander the Great's, oh they do, silly me. Maybe they think you can learn something by looking backwards to go forwards. So that's why I mentioned the Crusades and Nazism, both corrupt ideologies both beaten through military campaigns. I did this to offer an alternative view to the negotiation model that people are discussing on here. I'm not advocating it I'm just saying that in certain circumstances it has proved a more effective, if not desirable, option than talking. Chamberlain and 'Peace in our time' springs to mind. Whilst religious fanaticism remains a part in this arena I'm afraid negotiating is proving Einsteins Theory of Idiocy true. Look at Khartoum, it's dictated most, if not all of the negotiations in the region since it was agreed upon. Ignore history at your peril, but then again I could just be talking nonsense. Mrs x | |||
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"Zionism started in the 1800s or didn't you know that? Mrs x All this slipping sliding slippery side steppin& is impressive! And still you cherry pick obscure cobblers to jus[ify. How about sticking to the truth and relevant points?I need some help please, finding it very hard to even understand what you are saying, Mrs x" ditto. 
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done What has it achieved? The bloodiest of noses to the Hamas and the Iranian puppet masters. Do you think they will try to attempt an act of terrorism like this again, any time soon? Palestinian civilians deaths are likely 3X that of militants. 1.9 million displaced, homes destroyed, relatives lost. Hamas recruitment queues will resemble happy hour at spoons The west will have to wait to see if there’s any retaliation from the Islam’s, it will undoubtedly be civilians again that pay. I keep reading, Hamas recruitment will grow and is swelling. What does that actually tell us? Humans resent being bombed But Japan didn't carry on after Hiroshima, Germany after Dresden or Cologne. These more to it than that isn't there. If it wasn't then Israel have been attacked mist days for years but it's only a problem when they retaliate, Mrs x" Japan was governed by the USA for a number of years after the war. Germany was not allowed an army for a number of years after the war and was governed by usa Britian France and also Russia. this was to educate the population and put a system of peace into the societies of those countries. | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done What has it achieved? The bloodiest of noses to the Hamas and the Iranian puppet masters. Do you think they will try to attempt an act of terrorism like this again, any time soon? Palestinian civilians deaths are likely 3X that of militants. 1.9 million displaced, homes destroyed, relatives lost. Hamas recruitment queues will resemble happy hour at spoons The west will have to wait to see if there’s any retaliation from the Islam’s, it will undoubtedly be civilians again that pay. I keep reading, Hamas recruitment will grow and is swelling. What does that actually tell us? Humans resent being bombed But Japan didn't carry on after Hiroshima, Germany after Dresden or Cologne. These more to it than that isn't there. If it wasn't then Israel have been attacked mist days for years but it's only a problem when they retaliate, Mrs x Japan was governed by the USA for a number of years after the war. Germany was not allowed an army for a number of years after the war and was governed by usa Britian France and also Russia. this was to educate the population and put a system of peace into the societies of those countries." So you saying Israel should go in and put in a system of peace in those countries? Not sure that would work, maybe UN put a push to a more secular kind of government may benefit all involved. Mrs x | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done What has it achieved? The bloodiest of noses to the Hamas and the Iranian puppet masters. Do you think they will try to attempt an act of terrorism like this again, any time soon? Palestinian civilians deaths are likely 3X that of militants. 1.9 million displaced, homes destroyed, relatives lost. Hamas recruitment queues will resemble happy hour at spoons The west will have to wait to see if there’s any retaliation from the Islam’s, it will undoubtedly be civilians again that pay. I keep reading, Hamas recruitment will grow and is swelling. What does that actually tell us? Humans resent being bombed But Japan didn't carry on after Hiroshima, Germany after Dresden or Cologne. These more to it than that isn't there. If it wasn't then Israel have been attacked mist days for years but it's only a problem when they retaliate, Mrs x Japan was governed by the USA for a number of years after the war. Germany was not allowed an army for a number of years after the war and was governed by usa Britian France and also Russia. this was to educate the population and put a system of peace into the societies of those countries.So you saying Israel should go in and put in a system of peace in those countries? Not sure that would work, maybe UN put a push to a more secular kind of government may benefit all involved. Mrs x" No I am saying that the population was educated which makes the population more resistant to the reasons given by their leaders to goto war in the future. As usual anything else is your words not mine. | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done What has it achieved? The bloodiest of noses to the Hamas and the Iranian puppet masters. Do you think they will try to attempt an act of terrorism like this again, any time soon? Palestinian civilians deaths are likely 3X that of militants. 1.9 million displaced, homes destroyed, relatives lost. Hamas recruitment queues will resemble happy hour at spoons The west will have to wait to see if there’s any retaliation from the Islam’s, it will undoubtedly be civilians again that pay. I keep reading, Hamas recruitment will grow and is swelling. What does that actually tell us? Humans resent being bombed But Japan didn't carry on after Hiroshima, Germany after Dresden or Cologne. These more to it than that isn't there. If it wasn't then Israel have been attacked mist days for years but it's only a problem when they retaliate, Mrs x Japan was governed by the USA for a number of years after the war. Germany was not allowed an army for a number of years after the war and was governed by usa Britian France and also Russia. this was to educate the population and put a system of peace into the societies of those countries.So you saying Israel should go in and put in a system of peace in those countries? Not sure that would work, maybe UN put a push to a more secular kind of government may benefit all involved. Mrs x No I am saying that the population was educated which makes the population more resistant to the reasons given by their leaders to goto war in the future. As usual anything else is your words not mine." Not sure that would work whilst religious dogma still holds sway. Mrs x | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done What has it achieved? The bloodiest of noses to the Hamas and the Iranian puppet masters. Do you think they will try to attempt an act of terrorism like this again, any time soon? Palestinian civilians deaths are likely 3X that of militants. 1.9 million displaced, homes destroyed, relatives lost. Hamas recruitment queues will resemble happy hour at spoons The west will have to wait to see if there’s any retaliation from the Islam’s, it will undoubtedly be civilians again that pay. I keep reading, Hamas recruitment will grow and is swelling. What does that actually tell us? Humans resent being bombed But Japan didn't carry on after Hiroshima, Germany after Dresden or Cologne. These more to it than that isn't there. If it wasn't then Israel have been attacked mist days for years but it's only a problem when they retaliate, Mrs x Japan was governed by the USA for a number of years after the war. Germany was not allowed an army for a number of years after the war and was governed by usa Britian France and also Russia. this was to educate the population and put a system of peace into the societies of those countries.So you saying Israel should go in and put in a system of peace in those countries? Not sure that would work, maybe UN put a push to a more secular kind of government may benefit all involved. Mrs x No I am saying that the population was educated which makes the population more resistant to the reasons given by their leaders to goto war in the future. As usual anything else is your words not mine.Not sure that would work whilst religious dogma still holds sway. Mrs x" I am not discussing Israel I am answering your claim that Japan Germany did not carry on with war, it is because both countries were occupied by the winning forces for a number of years and reeducated the young population as to why war is wrong. | |||
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"Reported by the Whitehouse. Well that's a suprise isn't it I said it months ago and confident that the Americans and Israel knew it too. All those lives lost, and American tax payers money that could have been used to fix the American infrastructure.. bridges, passenger train services roads , all splurged away to commit war crimes thousands of miles away. So what has it achieved? There were better ways to have dealt with Hamas.. but, nooooo let's do it the way it's been done What has it achieved? The bloodiest of noses to the Hamas and the Iranian puppet masters. Do you think they will try to attempt an act of terrorism like this again, any time soon? Palestinian civilians deaths are likely 3X that of militants. 1.9 million displaced, homes destroyed, relatives lost. Hamas recruitment queues will resemble happy hour at spoons The west will have to wait to see if there’s any retaliation from the Islam’s, it will undoubtedly be civilians again that pay. I keep reading, Hamas recruitment will grow and is swelling. What does that actually tell us? Humans resent being bombed But Japan didn't carry on after Hiroshima, Germany after Dresden or Cologne. These more to it than that isn't there. If it wasn't then Israel have been attacked mist days for years but it's only a problem when they retaliate, Mrs x Japan was governed by the USA for a number of years after the war. Germany was not allowed an army for a number of years after the war and was governed by usa Britian France and also Russia. this was to educate the population and put a system of peace into the societies of those countries.So you saying Israel should go in and put in a system of peace in those countries? Not sure that would work, maybe UN put a push to a more secular kind of government may benefit all involved. Mrs x No I am saying that the population was educated which makes the population more resistant to the reasons given by their leaders to goto war in the future. As usual anything else is your words not mine.Not sure that would work whilst religious dogma still holds sway. Mrs x I am not discussing Israel I am answering your claim that Japan Germany did not carry on with war, it is because both countries were occupied by the winning forces for a number of years and reeducated the young population as to why war is wrong." You may be right, maybe that's the approach they should use in Gaza, Mrs x | |||
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" To all the pious, white as a dove souls here: you negotiate with terrorists only to discuss their surrender. Google ‘The IRA’." And the ANC.. | |||
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" To all the pious, white as a dove souls here: you negotiate with terrorists only to discuss their surrender. Google ‘The IRA’." Yep, they surrendered | |||
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