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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
1 week ago

Springfield

The Govt has announced its plan to expand the use of AI to boost public sector growth and productivity.

Clearly AI has a big part in our future lives but is it really needed to identify pot holes or get Civil Servants to work more than 30 hours a week ?

Government and technology is usually a disaster in the making- shouldn't we leave this AI stuff to philanthropists like Elon Musk ?

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By *exy_HornyCouple
1 week ago

Leigh

Clutching at straws to make the poorly educated think he knows what he’s doing.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
1 week ago

Springfield


"Clutching at straws to make the poorly educated think he knows what he’s doing."

Perhaps we need an AI Government?

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By *idnight RamblerMan
1 week ago

Pershore

It's been tried by Labour before - Harold Wilson's "White Heat of Industry' plans. It didn't happen then and it won't happen now. Why not? Because the Socialists have no comprehension of business nor entrepreneurship. Instead of seeing business as a means to grow prosperity, they see it as some kind of capitalist monster to suck taxes from.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
1 week ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"The Govt has announced its plan to expand the use of AI to boost public sector growth and productivity.

Clearly AI has a big part in our future lives but is it really needed to identify pot holes or get Civil Servants to work more than 30 hours a week ?

Government and technology is usually a disaster in the making- shouldn't we leave this AI stuff to philanthropists like Elon Musk ?"

Maybe Labour needs AI to make up for their distinct lack of real intelligence.

However, anything that comes from AI will be exactly that. ARTIFICIAL!

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma

The positive; Introducing AI into the civil service and public sector could be a game changer, particularly in terms of efficiency and headcount. Automating time consuming tasks, like form filling, through simple rule based systems would save significant time. For forms requiring metrics for approval or record-keeping, automation could streamline processes while making access much easier.

AI could also improve customer service internal and external, by using AI to answer queries and recommend next steps, whilst tying this functionality into forms and request tracking, the public sector could deliver a seamless, efficient service. However, as the introduction of AI and the implications become understood in the public sector, I would expect strikes, more strikes and yes more strikes....

The negative; I’m concerned about the risks due to outsourcing these projects. Relying on third party providers will lead to spiralling costs through poorly managed contracts, which is a given and the inevitable vendor lock in will derail the financials, leaving future governments with escalating expenses.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
1 week ago

Bedford

HAL 2001 ....

If Starmer has anything to do with it, it will cause chaos.

AI can decide if humans are needed, probably will try to destroy us.

The funny thing is Starmer, Rayner, Reeves and the rest all sound like robots.

It's all the Conservatives fault, it's all the Conservatives fault, exterminate exterminate.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
1 week ago

Springfield


"HAL 2001 ....

If Starmer has anything to do with it, it will cause chaos.

AI can decide if humans are needed, probably will try to destroy us.

The funny thing is Starmer, Rayner, Reeves and the rest all sound like robots.

It's all the Conservatives fault, it's all the Conservatives fault, exterminate exterminate."

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By *otlovefun42Couple
1 week ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"HAL 2001 ....

If Starmer has anything to do with it, it will cause chaos.

AI can decide if humans are needed, probably will try to destroy us.

The funny thing is Starmer, Rayner, Reeves and the rest all sound like robots.

It's all the Conservatives fault, it's all the Conservatives fault, exterminate exterminate."

Yes as Chris Rea almost sang.

This is the road to HAL.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
1 week ago

Springfield


"HAL 2001 ....

If Starmer has anything to do with it, it will cause chaos.

AI can decide if humans are needed, probably will try to destroy us.

The funny thing is Starmer, Rayner, Reeves and the rest all sound like robots.

It's all the Conservatives fault, it's all the Conservatives fault, exterminate exterminate.

Yes as Chris Rea almost sang.

This is the road to HAL."

Bravo ! 👏

(Works in Spanish and English !)

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
1 week ago

Springfield


"The positive; Introducing AI into the civil service and public sector could be a game changer, particularly in terms of efficiency and headcount. Automating time consuming tasks, like form filling, through simple rule based systems would save significant time. For forms requiring metrics for approval or record-keeping, automation could streamline processes while making access much easier.

AI could also improve customer service internal and external, by using AI to answer queries and recommend next steps, whilst tying this functionality into forms and request tracking, the public sector could deliver a seamless, efficient service. However, as the introduction of AI and the implications become understood in the public sector, I would expect strikes, more strikes and yes more strikes....

The negative; I’m concerned about the risks due to outsourcing these projects. Relying on third party providers will lead to spiralling costs through poorly managed contracts, which is a given and the inevitable vendor lock in will derail the financials, leaving future governments with escalating expenses."

Lots of excellent points, thank you.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
1 week ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"HAL 2001 ....

If Starmer has anything to do with it, it will cause chaos.

AI can decide if humans are needed, probably will try to destroy us.

The funny thing is Starmer, Rayner, Reeves and the rest all sound like robots.

It's all the Conservatives fault, it's all the Conservatives fault, exterminate exterminate.

Yes as Chris Rea almost sang.

This is the road to HAL.

Bravo ! 👏

(Works in Spanish and English !)"

Este es el camino a HAL.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
1 week ago

Springfield


"HAL 2001 ....

If Starmer has anything to do with it, it will cause chaos.

AI can decide if humans are needed, probably will try to destroy us.

The funny thing is Starmer, Rayner, Reeves and the rest all sound like robots.

It's all the Conservatives fault, it's all the Conservatives fault, exterminate exterminate.

Yes as Chris Rea almost sang.

This is the road to HAL.

Bravo ! 👏

(Works in Spanish and English !)

Este es el camino a HAL. "

Es verdad Amigos!

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By *otlovefun42Couple
1 week ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"The positive; Introducing AI into the civil service and public sector could be a game changer, particularly in terms of efficiency and headcount. Automating time consuming tasks, like form filling, through simple rule based systems would save significant time. For forms requiring metrics for approval or record-keeping, automation could streamline processes while making access much easier.

AI could also improve customer service internal and external, by using AI to answer queries and recommend next steps, whilst tying this functionality into forms and request tracking, the public sector could deliver a seamless, efficient service. However, as the introduction of AI and the implications become understood in the public sector, I would expect strikes, more strikes and yes more strikes....

The negative; I’m concerned about the risks due to outsourcing these projects. Relying on third party providers will lead to spiralling costs through poorly managed contracts, which is a given and the inevitable vendor lock in will derail the financials, leaving future governments with escalating expenses."

Yes good points.

But do you seriously think that Starmer would upset his union paymasters on the "headcount"? Oh! And efficiency in the public sector? Nay lad, can't be 'avin any of that efficiency malarkey round 'ere.

It would make the Tories 60 odd thousand look like a couple of mini buses.

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By *mberValleyManMan
1 week ago

Derby/Notts

Any attempt to get the UK up to speed with the AI revolution is to be welcomed.

I’ve no time for Sunak , but he did try to get the ball rolling with that Summit he held a few months ago.

Our MPs don’t seem to be discussing AI in parliament, when AI is potentially the next biggest Industrial Revolution, with the potential to change the way we work.

We are miles behind already.

Kids are being taught coding in schools, when AI is already (or will be) doing the coding for us.

Kids aren’t getting taught anything meaningful or useful about AI and its uses.

Countries around the world are already teaching their kids about AI

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By *emma StonesTV/TS
1 week ago

Crewe

Well the supporters of the incoming Reform Party government seem more interested in going back to the 1970s than the future so we’ll be having none of this modern claptrap thanks very much.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
1 week ago

Springfield


"Well the supporters of the incoming Reform Party government seem more interested in going back to the 1970s than the future so we’ll be having none of this modern claptrap thanks very much. "

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma


"Any attempt to get the UK up to speed with the AI revolution is to be welcomed.

I’ve no time for Sunak , but he did try to get the ball rolling with that Summit he held a few months ago.

Our MPs don’t seem to be discussing AI in parliament, when AI is potentially the next biggest Industrial Revolution, with the potential to change the way we work.

We are miles behind already.

Kids are being taught coding in schools, when AI is already (or will be) doing the coding for us.

Kids aren’t getting taught anything meaningful or useful about AI and its uses.

Countries around the world are already teaching their kids about AI

"

We are not miles behind already, we are doing well, so what gives you that impression?

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma


"The positive; Introducing AI into the civil service and public sector could be a game changer, particularly in terms of efficiency and headcount. Automating time consuming tasks, like form filling, through simple rule based systems would save significant time. For forms requiring metrics for approval or record-keeping, automation could streamline processes while making access much easier.

AI could also improve customer service internal and external, by using AI to answer queries and recommend next steps, whilst tying this functionality into forms and request tracking, the public sector could deliver a seamless, efficient service. However, as the introduction of AI and the implications become understood in the public sector, I would expect strikes, more strikes and yes more strikes....

The negative; I’m concerned about the risks due to outsourcing these projects. Relying on third party providers will lead to spiralling costs through poorly managed contracts, which is a given and the inevitable vendor lock in will derail the financials, leaving future governments with escalating expenses.

Yes good points.

But do you seriously think that Starmer would upset his union paymasters on the "headcount"? Oh! And efficiency in the public sector? Nay lad, can't be 'avin any of that efficiency malarkey round 'ere.

It would make the Tories 60 odd thousand look like a couple of mini buses. "

It will creep up on him slowly, like not being able to build the number of houses in the timeframe, not understanding the backlash on WFA and not checking the background of your chancellor

He wont be around to deal with the strikes either.

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By *ostindreamsMan
1 week ago

London

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By *ostindreamsMan
1 week ago

London

I like the overall idea of using AI and automation. That's definitely one way to sort out the ageing population problem. AI must help reduce the size of public sector workforce, not reduce working hours for same workforce getting the same pay.

Then there is the matter of implementation. Handled badly, the rollout of AI can cause massive havoc. I hope they don't screw this up.

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By *eavilMan
1 week ago

Stalybridge

AI driven trains - no striking drivers.

AI in classroom - no striking teachers.

AI Civil Servants - no working from home

Is there a theme or plan to this?

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By *eroy1000Man
1 week ago

milton keynes


"The Govt has announced its plan to expand the use of AI to boost public sector growth and productivity.

Clearly AI has a big part in our future lives but is it really needed to identify pot holes or get Civil Servants to work more than 30 hours a week ?

Government and technology is usually a disaster in the making- shouldn't we leave this AI stuff to philanthropists like Elon Musk ?"

If it improves the public sector then great but will it lead to job losses or will the union's insist on no redundancies even if jobs are being done by AI. Also notice on the bbc report that the previous government had already started this and were investing in a super computer in Scotland. Labour pulled the plug on this project when they first took office. Now they need to restart over again wasting more money.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
1 week ago

Border of London

(1) AI doesn't exist. What does exist is clever code and impressive machine learning.

(2) "AI" should already be used in most workplaces, and it's inevitable that it will come to government soon (and it's probably being used around the place already). Much of the civil service is drudgery, which can be automated. "AI" can help where it has not already been automated. Since it's cheap and inevitable, SKS loses nothing by promising this. He's fortunate that an easy to implement technology has appeared and he can look great and take credit for bringing in innovation.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
1 week ago

Springfield


"(1) AI doesn't exist. What does exist is clever code and impressive machine learning.

(2) "AI" should already be used in most workplaces, and it's inevitable that it will come to government soon (and it's probably being used around the place already). Much of the civil service is drudgery, which can be automated. "AI" can help where it has not already been automated. Since it's cheap and inevitable, SKS loses nothing by promising this. He's fortunate that an easy to implement technology has appeared and he can look great and take credit for bringing in innovation.

"

Really good points as always TM.

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma


"(1) AI doesn't exist. What does exist is clever code and impressive machine learning.

(2) "AI" should already be used in most workplaces, and it's inevitable that it will come to government soon (and it's probably being used around the place already). Much of the civil service is drudgery, which can be automated. "AI" can help where it has not already been automated. Since it's cheap and inevitable, SKS loses nothing by promising this. He's fortunate that an easy to implement technology has appeared and he can look great and take credit for bringing in innovation.

"

It can't be easily implemented on a public sector level.

The risk of failure is extremely high.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
1 week ago

Border of London


"He's fortunate that an easy to implement technology has appeared and he can look great and take credit for bringing in innovation.

It can't be easily implemented on a public sector level.

The risk of failure is extremely high.

"

There are many quick wins that can be easily implemented, from data analysis to code generation to letter composition. These can use already available open source solutions or commercially available models with minimal cost or risk.

You must be referring to grand ideas that are not yet solved - yes, the government is likely to waste billions on pie-in-the-sky ideas, as always (from direct, personal experience). But "AI" will be implemented quickly and cheaply for the quick wins.

What are you saying cannot be implemented easily?

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By *ill69888Couple
1 week ago

cheltenham

This whole government seems to have very limited intelligence of any kind! We don’t have anywhere near enough power to unleash this AI revolution that Keith seems to think we can.

He really is truly dreadful.

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By *ostindreamsMan
1 week ago

London


"AI driven trains - no striking drivers.

AI in classroom - no striking teachers.

AI Civil Servants - no working from home

Is there a theme or plan to this?"

To be honest, I would avoid AI in classroom. There are certain jobs which need a human touch and teaching children is one. Civil service and railways? We need to start using AI wherever possible.

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By *aven3Man
1 week ago

Street


"It's been tried by Labour before - Harold Wilson's "White Heat of Industry' plans. It didn't happen then and it won't happen now. Why not? Because the Socialists have no comprehension of business nor entrepreneurship. Instead of seeing business as a means to grow prosperity, they see it as some kind of capitalist monster to suck taxes from. "

You've got it.Saw through them when I was a teenager,now sixty three.They drag everyone and everything down to a low level.

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma


"He's fortunate that an easy to implement technology has appeared and he can look great and take credit for bringing in innovation.

It can't be easily implemented on a public sector level.

The risk of failure is extremely high.

There are many quick wins that can be easily implemented, from data analysis to code generation to letter composition. These can use already available open source solutions or commercially available models with minimal cost or risk.

You must be referring to grand ideas that are not yet solved - yes, the government is likely to waste billions on pie-in-the-sky ideas, as always (from direct, personal experience). But "AI" will be implemented quickly and cheaply for the quick wins.

What are you saying cannot be implemented easily?"

AI implementation in the public sector can't be straightforward and off the shelf solutions would not be a viable option. It must be fully coded and developed as a government specific service to avoid the current pitfall of fragmented, standalone systems that deliver minimal ROI and ultra integration issues they suffer with today.

Public sector systems are over complex, fragmented, and mostly lack full E2E architecture visibility. As an example middleware messaging will be critical but extremely challenging, leading to delays and bottlenecks in integration. There will also be endless integration licensing issues that need to be resolved and in the this space they don't ever move quickly, or economically. These outdated infrastructures are not ready for quick, scalable solutions, there will be demos that show what it could look like Monitoring, reporting, and compliance will introduce heavy overheads to safeguard data security and trust.

Public sector AI requires builds that integrate secure, fragmented datasets while preventing manipulation or breaches that would undermine trust, and take the wheels off the project. It is a complex project, but the rewards if done correctly are enormous.

All of this would be moot, if it turns out to be a glorified "hello world"

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
1 week ago

Border of London


"

AI implementation in the public sector can't be straightforward and off the shelf solutions would not be a viable option. It must be fully coded and developed as a government specific service to avoid the current pitfall of fragmented, standalone systems that deliver minimal ROI and ultra integration issues they suffer with today.

Public sector systems are over complex, fragmented, and mostly lack full E2E architecture visibility. As an example middleware messaging will be critical but extremely challenging, leading to delays and bottlenecks in integration. There will also be endless integration licensing issues that need to be resolved and in the this space they don't ever move quickly, or economically. These outdated infrastructures are not ready for quick, scalable solutions, there will be demos that show what it could look like Monitoring, reporting, and compliance will introduce heavy overheads to safeguard data security and trust.

Public sector AI requires builds that integrate secure, fragmented datasets while preventing manipulation or breaches that would undermine trust, and take the wheels off the project. It is a complex project, but the rewards if done correctly are enormous.

All of this would be moot, if it turns out to be a glorified "hello world" "

Everything you say is correct.

Nevertheless, there is plenty of scope for quick wins in individual sectors, using targeted solutions. Even basic (enterprise) CoPilot (or another LLM/generative) alone could add real value, if only to parse code. The idea of a government data bank is interesting, but it's difficult to see how this would work in practice (such that it's actually meaningful or useful). So far, all gargantuan and visionary attempts at IT by the UK government have been disastrous.

What's lacking is any tangible meat on his announcement, as usual.

The key is to solve small problems, rather than over engineer something that's everything to everyone.

The systemic issue that you bring up needs a wider overhaul, that is much, much more far-reaching than AI.

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By *erry bull1Man
1 week ago

doncaster

I thought starmer was already running on Artificial Intelligence, as his policies don’t make any sense the same with his agenda

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By *otlovefun42Couple
1 week ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"He's fortunate that an easy to implement technology has appeared and he can look great and take credit for bringing in innovation.

It can't be easily implemented on a public sector level.

The risk of failure is extremely high.

There are many quick wins that can be easily implemented, from data analysis to code generation to letter composition. These can use already available open source solutions or commercially available models with minimal cost or risk.

You must be referring to grand ideas that are not yet solved - yes, the government is likely to waste billions on pie-in-the-sky ideas, as always (from direct, personal experience). But "AI" will be implemented quickly and cheaply for the quick wins.

What are you saying cannot be implemented easily?

AI implementation in the public sector can't be straightforward and off the shelf solutions would not be a viable option. It must be fully coded and developed as a government specific service to avoid the current pitfall of fragmented, standalone systems that deliver minimal ROI and ultra integration issues they suffer with today.

Public sector systems are over complex, fragmented, and mostly lack full E2E architecture visibility. As an example middleware messaging will be critical but extremely challenging, leading to delays and bottlenecks in integration. There will also be endless integration licensing issues that need to be resolved and in the this space they don't ever move quickly, or economically. These outdated infrastructures are not ready for quick, scalable solutions, there will be demos that show what it could look like Monitoring, reporting, and compliance will introduce heavy overheads to safeguard data security and trust.

Public sector AI requires builds that integrate secure, fragmented datasets while preventing manipulation or breaches that would undermine trust, and take the wheels off the project. It is a complex project, but the rewards if done correctly are enormous.

All of this would be moot, if it turns out to be a glorified "hello world" "

It's a while ago so I don't remember the exact details but they tried to put a new integrated system in to the NHS.

A few years and around 3 billion quid later they had to rip it up and start again.

The public sector hasn't exactly got a good record when it comes to new technology.

And we all know what happened at the Post Office.

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma


"

AI implementation in the public sector can't be straightforward and off the shelf solutions would not be a viable option. It must be fully coded and developed as a government specific service to avoid the current pitfall of fragmented, standalone systems that deliver minimal ROI and ultra integration issues they suffer with today.

Public sector systems are over complex, fragmented, and mostly lack full E2E architecture visibility. As an example middleware messaging will be critical but extremely challenging, leading to delays and bottlenecks in integration. There will also be endless integration licensing issues that need to be resolved and in the this space they don't ever move quickly, or economically. These outdated infrastructures are not ready for quick, scalable solutions, there will be demos that show what it could look like Monitoring, reporting, and compliance will introduce heavy overheads to safeguard data security and trust.

Public sector AI requires builds that integrate secure, fragmented datasets while preventing manipulation or breaches that would undermine trust, and take the wheels off the project. It is a complex project, but the rewards if done correctly are enormous.

All of this would be moot, if it turns out to be a glorified "hello world"

Everything you say is correct.

Nevertheless, there is plenty of scope for quick wins in individual sectors, using targeted solutions. Even basic (enterprise) CoPilot (or another LLM/generative) alone could add real value, if only to parse code. The idea of a government data bank is interesting, but it's difficult to see how this would work in practice (such that it's actually meaningful or useful). So far, all gargantuan and visionary attempts at IT by the UK government have been disastrous.

What's lacking is any tangible meat on his announcement, as usual.

The key is to solve small problems, rather than over engineer something that's everything to everyone.

The systemic issue that you bring up needs a wider overhaul, that is much, much more far-reaching than AI."

We have moved on in terms of integration that would lend itself to really modernising the stack, which is needed.

The beauty with AI build is to be able to contain the information in libraries, the questions that need asking to boost the process is, can we take legacy system data and move it into a bespoke libraries that will maintain integrity and allow us to eventually move away from the application / code it resides in today. If that was the direction, quick wins and tasks could be managed on a local library level, but I would suggest that is a beta capability proof of concept for the much larger program of works and to show delivery aspirations such as streamlining case management in healthcare or automating repetitive administrative tasks as you mentioned.

I would 100% get behind any idea of centralisation of data from all public sector systems, that would allow future capabilities. It would cost billions but the investment would future proof us.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
1 week ago

Border of London


"

A few years and around 3 billion quid later they had to rip it up and start again.

"

Direct experience here.

Corruption, ineptitude and ego led to this sorry state of affairs.

Try 11 billion plus, not 3bn.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
1 week ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"

A few years and around 3 billion quid later they had to rip it up and start again.

Direct experience here.

Corruption, ineptitude and ego led to this sorry state of affairs.

Try 11 billion plus, not 3bn."

Yes, I remembered 3 billion but it may have only been the start.

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By *eavilMan
1 week ago

Stalybridge

The only AI needed in a classroom is a Cyberdyne Systems T800 to terminate the little bastards.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
1 week ago

The Outer Rim

the private sector will be decimated, especially the financial and insurance sector. the city of london will end up in a data centre/warehouse on an industrial estate in the far north of scotland owing to the need for being cooled with water from the north sea .... a bit like that google behemoth that we built in finland 15 years ago.

jobs like HR, payroll, management, consultancy, civil engineers, purchasers, accountants, process controllers will be hit big time.

road haulage will possibly be hit

graphic designers, coders and associated IT workers will become extinct alltogether.

craft based trades, healthcare professionals, social workers

will be largely unaffected.

ironically, silicone valley will come off worst

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma


"the private sector will be decimated, especially the financial and insurance sector. the city of london will end up in a data centre/warehouse on an industrial estate in the far north of scotland owing to the need for being cooled with water from the north sea .... a bit like that google behemoth that we built in finland 15 years ago.

jobs like HR, payroll, management, consultancy, civil engineers, purchasers, accountants, process controllers will be hit big time.

road haulage will possibly be hit

graphic designers, coders and associated IT workers will become extinct alltogether.

craft based trades, healthcare professionals, social workers

will be largely unaffected.

ironically, silicone valley will come off worst"

The private sector will not be decimated

It will adapt, as it always does

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By *hrill CollinsMan
1 week ago

The Outer Rim


"

The private sector will not be decimated

It will adapt, as it always does "

ah yes, by adapt you mean massive redundancies accross the board decimating jobs in the private sector

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma


"

The private sector will not be decimated

It will adapt, as it always does

ah yes, by adapt you mean massive redundancies accross the board decimating jobs in the private sector "

I think that is how you would like to project it to be, not how it will unfold, you're very fatalistic .

That is the beauty of capitalism, it moves on to better things rather than decaying like other systems such as communism that has come and gone.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
1 week ago

The Outer Rim


"

The private sector will not be decimated

It will adapt, as it always does

ah yes, by adapt you mean massive redundancies accross the board decimating jobs in the private sector

I think that is how you would like to project it to be, not how it will unfold, you're very fatalistic .

That is the beauty of capitalism, it moves on to better things rather than decaying like other systems such as communism that has come and gone. "

ok Boomer

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma


"

The private sector will not be decimated

It will adapt, as it always does

ah yes, by adapt you mean massive redundancies accross the board decimating jobs in the private sector

I think that is how you would like to project it to be, not how it will unfold, you're very fatalistic .

That is the beauty of capitalism, it moves on to better things rather than decaying like other systems such as communism that has come and gone.

ok Boomer "

I love the power capitalism holds over socialism, embrace it don't fight it

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By *otlovefun42Couple
1 week ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"

The private sector will not be decimated

It will adapt, as it always does

ah yes, by adapt you mean massive redundancies accross the board decimating jobs in the private sector

I think that is how you would like to project it to be, not how it will unfold, you're very fatalistic .

That is the beauty of capitalism, it moves on to better things rather than decaying like other systems such as communism that has come and gone.

ok Boomer "

Better to be a Boomer than a Buster.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
1 week ago

Springfield

Really interesting comments, thank you.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
1 week ago

The Outer Rim


"

I love the power capitalism holds over socialism, embrace it don't fight it "

it doesn't .... capitalism just keeps running out of other peoples money

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By *hrill CollinsMan
1 week ago

The Outer Rim


"

Better to be a Boomer than a Buster. "

not in your case gramps

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By *2000ManMan
1 week ago

Worthing

More spyware to target us with ads based on our lifestyle.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
1 week ago

The Outer Rim


"More spyware to target us with ads based on our lifestyle."

and the majority will continue to lap it up willingly

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
1 week ago

Border of London


"the private sector will be decimated, especially the financial and insurance sector. the city of london will end up in a data centre/warehouse on an industrial estate in the far north of scotland owing to the need for being cooled with water from the north sea .... a bit like that google behemoth that we built in finland 15 years ago.

jobs like HR, payroll, management, consultancy, civil engineers, purchasers, accountants, process controllers will be hit big time.

road haulage will possibly be hit

graphic designers, coders and associated IT workers will become extinct alltogether.

craft based trades, healthcare professionals, social workers

will be largely unaffected.

ironically, silicone valley will come off worst"

Perhaps people would rather millions working in the fields without tractors? Legions of clerks calculating insurance premiums and adding numbers to ledgers? Log charts? Horse drawn carriages?

Technology changes things, but removes drudgery. Perhaps we could focus on productivity increases and the opportunities that are brought by that?

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By *ostindreamsMan
1 week ago

London


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The private sector will not be decimated

It will adapt, as it always does

ah yes, by adapt you mean massive redundancies accross the board decimating jobs in the private sector "

In a country that has an ageing population and struggling to fill job vacancies, it's surely a good thing?

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By *hrill CollinsMan
1 week ago

The Outer Rim


"

The private sector will not be decimated

It will adapt, as it always does

ah yes, by adapt you mean massive redundancies accross the board decimating jobs in the private sector

In a country that has an ageing population and struggling to fill job vacancies, it's surely a good thing?"

possibly ... time will tell

what's certain is that there will be a need for people to rapidly rethink their career choices

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
1 week ago

Border of London


"

what's certain is that there will be a need for people to rapidly rethink their career choices"

Prompt engineering

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma


"

what's certain is that there will be a need for people to rapidly rethink their career choices

Prompt engineering "

AI, "please tell me what role best suits my skillsets, please do not refer to my tolerance levels or any questions I might have asked you after 22:00 in the evening, especially if it was Saturday. Please ignore my search results and do not consider my political leanings".

AI, considers you to be a great candidate for universal credit, would you like me to complete your form

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By *bflirtyCouple
3 days ago

Milton Keynes


"

The private sector will not be decimated

It will adapt, as it always does

ah yes, by adapt you mean massive redundancies accross the board decimating jobs in the private sector

I think that is how you would like to project it to be, not how it will unfold, you're very fatalistic .

That is the beauty of capitalism, it moves on to better things rather than decaying like other systems such as communism that has come and gone. "

Capitalism in it's current form is not serving us well.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
2 days ago

Bedford

It's Davros Dalek Starmers utopia to control the world via AI, and exterminate any opposition.

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By *eavilMan
2 days ago

Stalybridge


"It's Davros Dalek Starmers utopia to control the world via AI, and exterminate any opposition.

"

Only control the ground floor. Daleks don't like stairs.

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By *asildonBoy666Man
2 days ago

Basildon


"

That is the beauty of capitalism, it moves on to better things rather than decaying like other systems such as communism that has come and gone. "

There are no purely capitalist nations in the civilised world.

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By *otMe66Man
2 days ago

Terra Firma


"

That is the beauty of capitalism, it moves on to better things rather than decaying like other systems such as communism that has come and gone.

There are no purely capitalist nations in the civilised world. "

I can tell you one thing, capitalism works a so much better than communism no mattter how you try to slice an dice it

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By *asildonBoy666Man
2 days ago

Basildon


"

That is the beauty of capitalism, it moves on to better things rather than decaying like other systems such as communism that has come and gone.

There are no purely capitalist nations in the civilised world.

I can tell you one thing, capitalism works a so much better than communism no mattter how you try to slice an dice it "

Capitalism certainly works in the sense that it provides a stable society for the majority. Whether it ‘works’ in the sense that it is fair for everyone is another debate

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By *otMe66Man
2 days ago

Terra Firma


"

That is the beauty of capitalism, it moves on to better things rather than decaying like other systems such as communism that has come and gone.

There are no purely capitalist nations in the civilised world.

I can tell you one thing, capitalism works a so much better than communism no mattter how you try to slice an dice it

Capitalism certainly works in the sense that it provides a stable society for the majority. Whether it ‘works’ in the sense that it is fair for everyone is another debate "

nothing is ever fair, ask someone in a communist state.

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By *asildonBoy666Man
2 days ago

Basildon


"

That is the beauty of capitalism, it moves on to better things rather than decaying like other systems such as communism that has come and gone.

There are no purely capitalist nations in the civilised world.

I can tell you one thing, capitalism works a so much better than communism no mattter how you try to slice an dice it

Capitalism certainly works in the sense that it provides a stable society for the majority. Whether it ‘works’ in the sense that it is fair for everyone is another debate

nothing is ever fair, ask someone in a communist state."

So we shouldn’t strive for better? Why the obsession with communism?

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By *otMe66Man
2 days ago

Terra Firma


"

That is the beauty of capitalism, it moves on to better things rather than decaying like other systems such as communism that has come and gone.

There are no purely capitalist nations in the civilised world.

I can tell you one thing, capitalism works a so much better than communism no mattter how you try to slice an dice it

Capitalism certainly works in the sense that it provides a stable society for the majority. Whether it ‘works’ in the sense that it is fair for everyone is another debate

nothing is ever fair, ask someone in a communist state.

So we shouldn’t strive for better? Why the obsession with communism? "

I have zero obsession with communism, I do however enjoy capitalism and will defend it.

if you believe you have an alternative to capitalism that isn't communist waffle dressed up, I'm all ears.

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By *asildonBoy666Man
2 days ago

Basildon


"

That is the beauty of capitalism, it moves on to better things rather than decaying like other systems such as communism that has come and gone.

There are no purely capitalist nations in the civilised world.

I can tell you one thing, capitalism works a so much better than communism no mattter how you try to slice an dice it

Capitalism certainly works in the sense that it provides a stable society for the majority. Whether it ‘works’ in the sense that it is fair for everyone is another debate

nothing is ever fair, ask someone in a communist state.

So we shouldn’t strive for better? Why the obsession with communism?

I have zero obsession with communism, I do however enjoy capitalism and will defend it.

if you believe you have an alternative to capitalism that isn't communist waffle dressed up, I'm all ears. "

Yet the only person who has mentioned communism here is you. Is anyone looking to turn the U.K. into a communist state?

We live in a capitalist society with some socialist elements, like every other western nation.

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By *otMe66Man
2 days ago

Terra Firma


"

That is the beauty of capitalism, it moves on to better things rather than decaying like other systems such as communism that has come and gone.

There are no purely capitalist nations in the civilised world.

I can tell you one thing, capitalism works a so much better than communism no mattter how you try to slice an dice it

Capitalism certainly works in the sense that it provides a stable society for the majority. Whether it ‘works’ in the sense that it is fair for everyone is another debate

nothing is ever fair, ask someone in a communist state.

So we shouldn’t strive for better? Why the obsession with communism?

I have zero obsession with communism, I do however enjoy capitalism and will defend it.

if you believe you have an alternative to capitalism that isn't communist waffle dressed up, I'm all ears.

Yet the only person who has mentioned communism here is you. Is anyone looking to turn the U.K. into a communist state?

We live in a capitalist society with some socialist elements, like every other western nation. "

I understand how our society is configured, but nobody mentioned the public services or any other type of shared service, it was a clear reference to private sector capitalism growing and changing. You seem to think there is something better?

Maybe I misunderstood where you were coming from?

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By *ustoassingMan
17 hours ago

Blyth


"AI driven trains - no striking drivers.

AI in classroom - no striking teachers.

AI Civil Servants - no working from home

Is there a theme or plan to this?"

You seriously think working from home is an issue? That's one way of telling us you're just obsesssed with whatever the tabloids go on about....

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By *arry and MegsCouple
17 hours ago

letterkenny

So far my experience with AI has been with Google

I ask a question and it seems to trawl the internet (Wikipedia?) and regurgitates a load of shit, most of which seems to be misinformation.

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