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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
4 weeks ago

nearby

Consumer price inflation is forecast to lift again to 2.7% in December from 2.6% when the Office for National Statistics releases its data on 6 February according to Deutsche Bank. A large uplift on the 1.7% inflation figure last September.

Pump prices are predicted to lift by 1.2% over the month, and research group Kantar says that grocery price inflation picked up by 3.7% over the same period.

Deutsche Bank also expects “inflation to push higher over 2025″ driven by increases to the national living wage and employer National Insurance contributions, as well as food and energy rising prices.

Mixed expectations of significant interest rate cuts following Reeves recent blunders.

So what will 2025 look like for the UK economy and what will Labour do to minimise any damage.

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma

Labour will do what they are doing now about their economic own goals, nothing and hope it all goes away.

While they are doing nothing to tackle the mess they’ve made, they will create stories of inherited debt and an economy that was on its knees.

That keeps 90% of their base happy.

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By *emma StonesTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Crewe

Is the rise in inflation a UK or a global phenomenon.

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By *melie LALWoman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Is the rise in inflation a UK or a global phenomenon."

If it increases it's global, decreases it's government

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By *oubleswing2019Man
4 weeks ago

Colchester


"Is the rise in inflation a UK or a global phenomenon."

A good and rhetorical question and we all know the answer. Sadly, there are some who feel a national government can fix a global issue nationally.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
4 weeks ago

Pershore


"Is the rise in inflation a UK or a global phenomenon.

If it increases it's global, decreases it's government

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It is, but there's a strong case that Reeve's tax increases have nudged UK inflation higher than it need be. Now, with spiralling costs of servicing government debt, she is faced with drastic cost cutting measures in the Spring. So basically, higher taxes for less under Labour.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
4 weeks ago

Colchester


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It is, but there's a strong case that Reeve's tax increases have nudged UK inflation higher than it need be. Now, with spiralling costs of servicing government debt, she is faced with drastic cost cutting measures in the Spring. So basically, higher taxes for less under Labour."

I think a lot depends on perspective.

Is the situation "manageable" or "beyond redemption" ?

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Those that feel it is "manageable" might feel there are things which can be "attempted" which "might" mitigate the severity. They might feel there are some things which "might" worsen the situation. No one really knows.

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Then there are those who might feel this parrot died a long time ago and we are hurtling towards to the oblivion. Re-Sus is futile.

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At least with oblivion, there is certainty

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By *regoniansCouple
4 weeks ago

Oundle


"Is the rise in inflation a UK or a global phenomenon.

If it increases it's global, decreases it's government

It is, but there's a strong case that Reeve's tax increases have nudged UK inflation higher than it need be. Now, with spiralling costs of servicing government debt, she is faced with drastic cost cutting measures in the Spring. So basically, higher taxes for less under Labour."

There has been inflationary pressure in most economies, but the UK and Germany are particularly exposed. Inflation in the latter has been exacerbated by their energy policies and over the last two months by "dunkelflaute" - overcast still weather conditions virtually wiping out green energy generation at a time when sanctions on Russian oil and gas leaves its energy dependent industries very exposed to spikes in LNG import prices. Inflation in Germany is forecast to come out at 2.9% - France by comparison is forecast at 1.4% mainly because it has a primarly nuclear base and hasn't charged down the EV route, thereby leveraging cheap Indo-Russian diesel import cargoes. Trump's answer to energy inflation is "drill baby drill", while Milipede wants to shut down the North Sea when the UK already has the highest energy costs in the G20.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
4 weeks ago

Hastings


"Is the rise in inflation a UK or a global phenomenon."

The rise in minimum wage and rise in Employers NI contribution is increasing inflation witch is government and could have been avoided.

Once minimum wage goes up and inflation goes up benefits will need to rise. Then its back to strikes and more public sector pay rises. All driving inflation up.

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By *eroy1000Man
4 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Is the rise in inflation a UK or a global phenomenon."

I would say it depends on what is driving inflation in individual countries mainly. If it is increasing due to economic decisions taken by a government then it's not so much due to global trends but due to local decisions. In the UK, businesses and economist's have been saying since the budget that the changes introduced will make prices go up and they will not be able to hire as many people as hoped, in some cases maybe even laying people off. Retailers said just the other day that prices will only go up now as a result of the changes. Some things are outside pressure like oil and gas prices increasing, but that was also true when inflation was falling.

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By *esYesOMGYes!Man
4 weeks ago

M20

Inflation is way higher than they are letting on. It’s all being driven by a handful of monopolistic/cabalistic corporations.

Talking about domestic and foreign policy is distracting.

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma

You need to have been living under a rock to not see this coming.....

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
4 weeks ago

nearby

We may be saved, todays news of a vast £600m trade deal done with China on Agri food. Not counted the sea miles yet. Poke in the eye for Ukraine dealing with Putins supporters.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
4 weeks ago

nearby


"Is the rise in inflation a UK or a global phenomenon.

The rise in minimum wage and rise in Employers NI contribution is increasing inflation witch is government and could have been avoided.

Once minimum wage goes up and inflation goes up benefits will need to rise. Then its back to strikes and more public sector pay rises. All driving inflation up."

A reported £5k extra cost to businesses for each employee.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
4 weeks ago

nearby


"Is the rise in inflation a UK or a global phenomenon.

If it increases it's global, decreases it's government

It is, but there's a strong case that Reeve's tax increases have nudged UK inflation higher than it need be. Now, with spiralling costs of servicing government debt, she is faced with drastic cost cutting measures in the Spring. So basically, higher taxes for less under Labour."

Add the already reduced economic growth, reduced housing starts, reduced business investment and lending to businesses. Increased unemployment and business confidence index fallen last four consecutive months.

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By *emma StonesTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Crewe


"Is the rise in inflation a UK or a global phenomenon.

Retailers said just the other day that prices will only go up now as a result of the changes. Some things are outside pressure like oil and gas prices increasing, but that was also true when inflation was falling."

And if you believe that retailers were not going to put up prices Boris has a bridge he could sell you.

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By *melie LALWoman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Is the rise in inflation a UK or a global phenomenon.

The rise in minimum wage and rise in Employers NI contribution is increasing inflation witch is government and could have been avoided.

Once minimum wage goes up and inflation goes up benefits will need to rise. Then its back to strikes and more public sector pay rises. All driving inflation up."

Nurses should strike. The doctos all got what they wanted but as per usual the nurses don't. As RCN CNO stated Sunday, we're 25% down in real terms. But don't be worrying cos nobody else does as we're not junior doctors or consultants

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
4 weeks ago

Hastings


"Is the rise in inflation a UK or a global phenomenon.

The rise in minimum wage and rise in Employers NI contribution is increasing inflation witch is government and could have been avoided.

Once minimum wage goes up and inflation goes up benefits will need to rise. Then its back to strikes and more public sector pay rises. All driving inflation up.

Nurses should strike. The doctos all got what they wanted but as per usual the nurses don't. As RCN CNO stated Sunday, we're 25% down in real terms. But don't be worrying cos nobody else does as we're not junior doctors or consultants "

So give them what they want but don't the moan about inflation.

Benifits went up 6% last April minimum wage is going up 6.7%

So guess most like me see this as a pay cut to skilled people how don't get 4% let alone 6%

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By *mberValleyManMan
4 weeks ago

Derby/Notts

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By *mberValleyManMan
4 weeks ago

Derby/Notts

IFS has some good reading on this:

https://ifs.org.uk/articles/rachel-reeves-new-year-predicament

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Is the rise in inflation a UK or a global phenomenon.

Retailers said just the other day that prices will only go up now as a result of the changes. Some things are outside pressure like oil and gas prices increasing, but that was also true when inflation was falling.

And if you believe that retailers were not going to put up prices Boris has a bridge he could sell you."

It is not just the retailer! the manufacturer, warehousing, logistics, the retailer and anyone else in the chain are all impacted by the no taxes on working people, prices are going up.

Nobody needs to guess, it is reported clearly everywhere, Reeves has created a huge problem with such a bad budget.

I predicted 2 years to see the full extent of this budgets harm, it is accelerating but that 2 year forecast is still on track, unfortunately.

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By *illowendMan
4 weeks ago

Southwold

Good that Labour tell the truth

14 years of abject conservative failure

Increased UK national debt from £900b to £2.7 trillion

The conservatives still claim to be the party of fiscal prudence 🤡🤡🤡


"Labour will do what they are doing now about their economic own goals, nothing and hope it all goes away.

While they are doing nothing to tackle the mess they’ve made, they will create stories of inherited debt and an economy that was on its knees.

That keeps 90% of their base happy."

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Good that Labour tell the truth

14 years of abject conservative failure

Increased UK national debt from £900b to £2.7 trillion

The conservatives still claim to be the party of fiscal prudence 🤡🤡🤡

Labour will do what they are doing now about their economic own goals, nothing and hope it all goes away.

While they are doing nothing to tackle the mess they’ve made, they will create stories of inherited debt and an economy that was on its knees.

That keeps 90% of their base happy."

you have said nothing about the negligence of labour over the last 6 months, why is that?

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
4 weeks ago

Bedford

That's 2.7% on everything add that up over the next year on an individuals expenditure it's a knock back bigger than deserved all to discredit the opposition. What a bunch of wa....

Fuck me, who needs enemies when you have Starmer and his cronies. They'll fucking wreck this country. Bet lots are considering leaving this country.

It's like Callaghan all over again, winter 1978.

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By *ostindreamsMan
4 weeks ago

London


"Good that Labour tell the truth

14 years of abject conservative failure

Increased UK national debt from £900b to £2.7 trillion

The conservatives still claim to be the party of fiscal prudence 🤡🤡🤡

Labour will do what they are doing now about their economic own goals, nothing and hope it all goes away.

While they are doing nothing to tackle the mess they’ve made, they will create stories of inherited debt and an economy that was on its knees.

That keeps 90% of their base happy."

Can you check the numbers before and after covid? We were actually getting control of debts before covid happened. But the Tories gave it all away during Covid. Do you think we shouldn't have spent that much during covid?

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By *emma StonesTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Crewe


"Good that Labour tell the truth

14 years of abject conservative failure

Increased UK national debt from £900b to £2.7 trillion

The conservatives still claim to be the party of fiscal prudence 🤡🤡🤡

Labour will do what they are doing now about their economic own goals, nothing and hope it all goes away.

While they are doing nothing to tackle the mess they’ve made, they will create stories of inherited debt and an economy that was on its knees.

That keeps 90% of their base happy.

Can you check the numbers before and after covid? We were actually getting control of debts before covid happened. But the Tories gave it all away during Covid. Do you think we shouldn't have spent that much during covid?"

Lots of businesses received a lot of help during Covid. Do you think they should repay some of that help or should it only be those on PAYE.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
4 weeks ago

Hastings


"Good that Labour tell the truth

14 years of abject conservative failure

Increased UK national debt from £900b to £2.7 trillion

The conservatives still claim to be the party of fiscal prudence 🤡🤡🤡

Labour will do what they are doing now about their economic own goals, nothing and hope it all goes away.

While they are doing nothing to tackle the mess they’ve made, they will create stories of inherited debt and an economy that was on its knees.

That keeps 90% of their base happy.

Can you check the numbers before and after covid? We were actually getting control of debts before covid happened. But the Tories gave it all away during Covid. Do you think we shouldn't have spent that much during covid?

Lots of businesses received a lot of help during Covid. Do you think they should repay some of that help or should it only be those on PAYE."

Most businesses that received money used it to pay bills and pay staff on furlough so have not yet made enough to get back to where they where pre covid. If they had and where in profits they might try not to pass on the wage and NI increase. But the truth is this will need to get passed on to customers. INFLATION

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By *eroy1000Man
4 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Is the rise in inflation a UK or a global phenomenon.

Retailers said just the other day that prices will only go up now as a result of the changes. Some things are outside pressure like oil and gas prices increasing, but that was also true when inflation was falling.

And if you believe that retailers were not going to put up prices Boris has a bridge he could sell you."

They are saying prices will only go up now due to the budget and the economists agree this us the reason. Pretty much all other sectors are reporting the same thing and all say it us due to the budget. Again economists and business groups agree

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By *abioMan
3 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

And it came in at…….. 2.5%

Thoughts?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Central


"And it came in at…….. 2.5%

Thoughts? "

I was surprised but in a good way. I thought petrol and diesel might have taken it higher

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By *ools and the brainCouple
3 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"And it came in at…….. 2.5%

Thoughts? "

Think we'll be waiting some time for the OP to start a thread praising the government for the drop in inflation

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
3 weeks ago

Hastings


"And it came in at…….. 2.5%

Thoughts?

I was surprised but in a good way. I thought petrol and diesel might have taken it higher "

I'll will save judgment till May and the increase the government are putting on business to see if any good is undone.

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By *ill69888Couple
3 weeks ago

cheltenham


"And it came in at…….. 2.5%

Thoughts?

I was surprised but in a good way. I thought petrol and diesel might have taken it higher "

it will do next time. The rise in oil had not come into effect in time for these figures.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
3 weeks ago

Gilfach


"And it came in at…….. 2.5%

Thoughts?"

The OP does say "when the Office for National Statistics releases its data on 6 February". Was he predicting more than a month in advance?

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
3 weeks ago

nearby

Forecasts wrong then.

Good news to see inflation coming down, together with economic growth, reduced business lending, reduced business investment and forth consecutive month of falling business confidence, and impact of budget yet to come.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
3 weeks ago

The Outer Rim


"And it came in at…….. 2.5%

Thoughts?

Think we'll be waiting some time for the OP to start a thread praising the government for the drop in inflation "

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
3 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"And it came in at…….. 2.5%

Thoughts? "

It's all down to Liz Truss of course..

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By *hirleyMan
3 weeks ago

somewhere

Until the covid money gets taken back none of these figures mean anything, arguing about which government is the most incompetent is also useless as they're all powerless until they grow a spine and stop billions being pilfered by the few

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By *otMe66Man
3 weeks ago

Terra Firma

Air travel, restaurant and hotel price drops.

2 things spring to mind, the rail strikes might have played a part in the hotel / restaurant prices in December, or tourism could be down.

I think we will know more in March / April when rail travel figures are in and air fares rise back up in Feb.

If it is consumer hesitancy, we will also see that during Q1.

All a bit unexpected, and something I wouldn't hang my hat on as an indicator.

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By *eroy1000Man
3 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Forecasts wrong then.

Good news to see inflation coming down, together with economic growth, reduced business lending, reduced business investment and forth consecutive month of falling business confidence, and impact of budget yet to come. "

Inflation coming down is good news even if its small but as you show everything else is going in the wrong direction and worryingly the budget changes have not come in yet. Hopefully it will encourage the bank to reduce interest rates and that gets past onto customers

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By *otMe66Man
3 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Forecasts wrong then.

Good news to see inflation coming down, together with economic growth, reduced business lending, reduced business investment and forth consecutive month of falling business confidence, and impact of budget yet to come.

Inflation coming down is good news even if its small but as you show everything else is going in the wrong direction and worryingly the budget changes have not come in yet. Hopefully it will encourage the bank to reduce interest rates and that gets past onto customers"

What you both mention is why I'm cautious, it feels like consumer hesitancy is matching the lack of business confidence. The downward inflation could be as sign of entering a recession.

It might not though, will we know by end of Q1

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By *mateur100Man
3 weeks ago

nr faversham

I'm sure the "experts" will be wrong and will revise their forecasts as they always seem to do

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