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" Does a Reform Govt inspire or scare you ?" Tax avoidance advice from reforms treasurer Nick Candy might benefit more than a few | |||
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"Labour are gifting any other party the next GE. The only hope we have as a country until that next GE is for Starmer to step down without causing a fuss, and Streeting stepping up. He will need to cull the cabinet, which wont be a bad thing and drop some of the ludicrous policies and commitments that are going to cause us more financial ruin ASAP. Starmer and his cabinet, a political car crash from day 1." Do you think Reform is still a protest vote or are people choosing them on their own merits ? | |||
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"Labour are gifting any other party the next GE. The only hope we have as a country until that next GE is for Starmer to step down without causing a fuss, and Streeting stepping up. He will need to cull the cabinet, which wont be a bad thing and drop some of the ludicrous policies and commitments that are going to cause us more financial ruin ASAP. Starmer and his cabinet, a political car crash from day 1." This is the only option, and it will be ruinous for Labour. We won’t see them again In the meantime a recession and job cuts. | |||
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"Labour are gifting any other party the next GE. The only hope we have as a country until that next GE is for Starmer to step down without causing a fuss, and Streeting stepping up. He will need to cull the cabinet, which wont be a bad thing and drop some of the ludicrous policies and commitments that are going to cause us more financial ruin ASAP. Starmer and his cabinet, a political car crash from day 1. Do you think Reform is still a protest vote or are people choosing them on their own merits ?" 4.2 million votes. It’s real Would be 5 million plus if GE today | |||
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"Labour are gifting any other party the next GE. The only hope we have as a country until that next GE is for Starmer to step down without causing a fuss, and Streeting stepping up. He will need to cull the cabinet, which wont be a bad thing and drop some of the ludicrous policies and commitments that are going to cause us more financial ruin ASAP. Starmer and his cabinet, a political car crash from day 1. Do you think Reform is still a protest vote or are people choosing them on their own merits ?" Reform in my opinion is holding pen for disillusioned tories who need to put a X in the box on polling day. The amount of tories that didn't vote at all out weighs those numbers, it was the stay at home tories that handed over the power to labour. Farage is not a stupid man, he knows they will not win an election, all he wants is enough labour and tory voters supporting Reform to make a difference when both the labour party and tories are neck and neck in the polls at the next GE. That is his fishing ground, that is where he will assert pressure to influence both parties, and whatever policy is important to him at the time. | |||
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"A landmark for Reform today as it is joint top in a national opinion poll for the first time. Labour and Reform on 25%, Tories on 20%, Lib Dem who cares. With the Labour economy in free fall and Kemi failing to impress so far, its hard to see this trend not continuing. Major shifts are underway in global politics and anything is possible. Does a Reform Govt inspire or scare you ?" Potentially 4 years out from an election… god no!!! The interesting thing is that reform are going to have to put up more candidates, and last time the vetting process was shockingly bad, so this time I wonder what proper “checks” would drag out | |||
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"A landmark for Reform today as it is joint top in a national opinion poll for the first time. Labour and Reform on 25%, Tories on 20%, Lib Dem who cares. With the Labour economy in free fall and Kemi failing to impress so far, its hard to see this trend not continuing. Major shifts are underway in global politics and anything is possible. Does a Reform Govt inspire or scare you ? Potentially 4 years out from an election… god no!!! The interesting thing is that reform are going to have to put up more candidates, and last time the vetting process was shockingly bad, so this time I wonder what proper “checks” would drag out " Would you stand Fabio ? | |||
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"A landmark for Reform today as it is joint top in a national opinion poll for the first time. Labour and Reform on 25%, Tories on 20%, Lib Dem who cares. With the Labour economy in free fall and Kemi failing to impress so far, its hard to see this trend not continuing. Major shifts are underway in global politics and anything is possible. Does a Reform Govt inspire or scare you ? Potentially 4 years out from an election… god no!!! The interesting thing is that reform are going to have to put up more candidates, and last time the vetting process was shockingly bad, so this time I wonder what proper “checks” would drag out Would you stand Fabio ?" For a political office… I would say that’s just a very interesting question that actually deserves its own thread rather than hijacking I think it’s a really good general politics thread question though | |||
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"A landmark for Reform today as it is joint top in a national opinion poll for the first time. Labour and Reform on 25%, Tories on 20%, Lib Dem who cares. With the Labour economy in free fall and Kemi failing to impress so far, its hard to see this trend not continuing. Major shifts are underway in global politics and anything is possible. Does a Reform Govt inspire or scare you ? Potentially 4 years out from an election… god no!!! The interesting thing is that reform are going to have to put up more candidates, and last time the vetting process was shockingly bad, so this time I wonder what proper “checks” would drag out Would you stand Fabio ? For a political office… I would say that’s just a very interesting question that actually deserves its own thread rather than hijacking I think it’s a really good general politics thread question though "  | |||
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"A landmark for Reform today as it is joint top in a national opinion poll for the first time. Labour and Reform on 25%, Tories on 20%, Lib Dem who cares. With the Labour economy in free fall and Kemi failing to impress so far, its hard to see this trend not continuing. Major shifts are underway in global politics and anything is possible. Does a Reform Govt inspire or scare you ?" They definitely seem to be still rising at the same time as the Tories are treading water and Labour are busy destroying the economy. One poll or even a few polls do not mean much but if it is the start of a continuous trend then it could get interesting. Still doubt they will ever win a GE but could become a significant force especially if whoever wins a GE only have a small majority | |||
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"Labour are gifting any other party the next GE. The only hope we have as a country until that next GE is for Starmer to step down without causing a fuss, and Streeting stepping up. He will need to cull the cabinet, which wont be a bad thing and drop some of the ludicrous policies and commitments that are going to cause us more financial ruin ASAP. Starmer and his cabinet, a political car crash from day 1. Do you think Reform is still a protest vote or are people choosing them on their own merits ?" The former. But that's not to say it won't bring them to power. You could say pretty much the same of Labour at the last GE. Look how their support has evaporated into thin air. Personally I'm not convinced Reform have the calibre of candidates to run the country. It's easy to look good in opposition - just ask Sir Keir. | |||
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"A landmark for Reform today as it is joint top in a national opinion poll for the first time. Labour and Reform on 25%, Tories on 20%, Lib Dem who cares. With the Labour economy in free fall and Kemi failing to impress so far, its hard to see this trend not continuing. Major shifts are underway in global politics and anything is possible. Does a Reform Govt inspire or scare you ? They definitely seem to be still rising at the same time as the Tories are treading water and Labour are busy destroying the economy. One poll or even a few polls do not mean much but if it is the start of a continuous trend then it could get interesting. Still doubt they will ever win a GE but could become a significant force especially if whoever wins a GE only have a small majority" Exactly this. Reform will be the major opposition and have the publics support; Libdem and Green both kicked to the sidelines. | |||
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"Labour are gifting any other party the next GE. The only hope we have as a country until that next GE is for Starmer to step down without causing a fuss, and Streeting stepping up. He will need to cull the cabinet, which wont be a bad thing and drop some of the ludicrous policies and commitments that are going to cause us more financial ruin ASAP. Starmer and his cabinet, a political car crash from day 1. Do you think Reform is still a protest vote or are people choosing them on their own merits ?" What merits? Their plans will cost £billions AND they want to reduce taxes. They blagged there way into Brexit because Brexit wasn’t quantifiable, but in an election plans get scrutinised and Reform have no funding plan other than they will somehow “create massive growth.” | |||
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"Labour are gifting any other party the next GE. The only hope we have as a country until that next GE is for Starmer to step down without causing a fuss, and Streeting stepping up. He will need to cull the cabinet, which wont be a bad thing and drop some of the ludicrous policies and commitments that are going to cause us more financial ruin ASAP. Starmer and his cabinet, a political car crash from day 1. Do you think Reform is still a protest vote or are people choosing them on their own merits ? What merits? Their plans will cost £billions AND they want to reduce taxes. They blagged there way into Brexit because Brexit wasn’t quantifiable, but in an election plans get scrutinised and Reform have no funding plan other than they will somehow “create massive growth.”" Labour's fiscal plan wasn't exactly 'scrutinised'. Remember fully costed?? Yeah fucking right it was  | |||
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"Their plans will cost £billions AND they want to reduce taxes." Have you not heard of the Laffer Curve? It's entirely possible to lower tax rates and at the same time increase tax revenues. | |||
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"Labour are gifting any other party the next GE. The only hope we have as a country until that next GE is for Starmer to step down without causing a fuss, and Streeting stepping up. He will need to cull the cabinet, which wont be a bad thing and drop some of the ludicrous policies and commitments that are going to cause us more financial ruin ASAP. Starmer and his cabinet, a political car crash from day 1. Do you think Reform is still a protest vote or are people choosing them on their own merits ? What merits? Their plans will cost £billions AND they want to reduce taxes. They blagged there way into Brexit because Brexit wasn’t quantifiable, but in an election plans get scrutinised and Reform have no funding plan other than they will somehow “create massive growth.”" Reduce taxes! Whatever next, allow people to keep their own money! | |||
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"It's only one poll. Take no notice" There's now been multiple polls showing Reform on 20-25%. | |||
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"It's only one poll. Take no notice There's now been multiple polls showing Reform on 20-25%." All bluster and hype from this party with no record of governing. Careful what you wish for. Look at what Brexit turned out like. UK doesn't need further disaster | |||
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"It's only one poll. Take no notice There's now been multiple polls showing Reform on 20-25%. All bluster and hype from this party with no record of governing. Careful what you wish for. Look at what Brexit turned out like. UK doesn't need further disaster " Nothing wrong with the idea of Brexit, just the cack handed implementation by the Tories. | |||
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"A landmark for Reform today as it is joint top in a national opinion poll for the first time. Labour and Reform on 25%, Tories on 20%, Lib Dem who cares. With the Labour economy in free fall and Kemi failing to impress so far, its hard to see this trend not continuing. Major shifts are underway in global politics and anything is possible. Does a Reform Govt inspire or scare you ?" I dunno about inspire but I'd love to see Reform in charge. Nigel would be a great PM. This should get the left wing going ape shit. | |||
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" This should get the left wing going ape shit." I usually associate ape shit with the right! | |||
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"Reform the party that has a convicted time serving criminal as a M.P in parliament. (the m.p beat up his partner at the time, and was given a prison sentence). As I said before if reform are a real threat then MSM will print a story like I have reported here then they will be finished. We do need another political party but reform is not the way to go. " In 2012, 43% of MPs had criminal convictions. They don't tell us anymore, wonder why that might be? | |||
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"Labour are gifting any other party the next GE. The only hope we have as a country until that next GE is for Starmer to step down without causing a fuss, and Streeting stepping up. He will need to cull the cabinet, which wont be a bad thing and drop some of the ludicrous policies and commitments that are going to cause us more financial ruin ASAP. Starmer and his cabinet, a political car crash from day 1. Do you think Reform is still a protest vote or are people choosing them on their own merits ?" I do think it's a protest vote (for now at least) but a very significant one. Whether or not certain people like it, immigration is going to be the big issue over the next 4 years and unless one of the main party's steals Reform's clothes they will do well from it. Rwanda aside the Tories had very few answers and Labour have hit the ground running..... AWAY! Add Labours economic woes, which I see getting much worse, and there would be the possibility of a Tory/Reform coalition. Now that could be fun.  | |||
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" This should get the left wing going ape shit. I usually associate ape shit with the right!" Try challenging folk at a pro Palestinian March. You'll see what ape shit means. | |||
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"I would prefer a Reform/Tory coalition to rule out a split vote which would unfortunately let Labour in." The tory party rules for over a decade crashes the economy twice while electing morons as leaders...twice Yet it is a labour government of 6months to blame ? You guys need to lay off the drugs ,but then anyone who believes Farage is in this for anything than to line his pockets is beyond saving already | |||
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I don’t care what a bunch of stuffed shirt liberals and leftists have to say about Reform, it’s like they would say that. It is good that a thread like this invites such vitriol. It means that they are worried, and so they should be.
As for Nigel. He has stuck to his guns, ever since leaving the Tories, when John Major signed the Maastricht Treaty. I think he would make a great Prime Minister. | |||
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"It's going to be very interesting when the first bye election comes up." also the Scottish % Welsh elections in 2026 if Reform keep their act together & run a well funded campaign they could do very well | |||
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"I would prefer a Reform/Tory coalition to rule out a split vote which would unfortunately let Labour in. The tory party rules for over a decade crashes the economy twice while electing morons as leaders...twice Yet it is a labour government of 6months to blame ? You guys need to lay off the drugs ,but then anyone who believes Farage is in this for anything than to line his pockets is beyond saving already " What are they smoking in Scotland to keep electing the incompetent crooks who run the SNP ? | |||
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"worried? considering their elected members are now resigning en masse, no not in the least. "Polls say they will win the next Welsh elections. | |||
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"worried? considering their elected members are now resigning en masse, no not in the least.
Polls say they will win the next Welsh elections. "Welsh politicians have shot themselves in the foot by sticking to 20 MPH limits | |||
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"worried? considering their elected members are now resigning en masse, no not in the least.
Polls say they will win the next Welsh elections. "so? | |||
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"worried? considering their elected members are now resigning en masse, no not in the least.
Polls say they will win the next Welsh elections.
so?"What ? | |||
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"worried? considering their elected members are now resigning en masse, no not in the least.
Polls say they will win the next Welsh elections.
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"seems you have nothing to say again " | |||
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"more elected members have resigned from reform .... the party is divided despite their faked PR "Looks like they didn't pass vetting. No wonder they don't like how the party is being run. Well done Nigel, he did promise to sort out those undesirables. | |||
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"It looks like we are well on course for Reform UK 2028. That has been the target all along.
I don’t care what a bunch of stuffed shirt liberals and leftists have to say about Reform, it’s like they would say that. It is good that a thread like this invites such vitriol. It means that they are worried, and so they should be.
As for Nigel. He has stuck to his guns, ever since leaving the Tories, when John Major signed the Maastricht Treaty. I think he would make a great Prime Minister."They don’t have the people to stand for election - what are you on about? You do realise that any political party has to have hundreds of sufficiently competent MP’s ready, available and willing to stand at an election? Reform have hardly anyone. They also have no viable policies other than to dismantle the NHS and make everyone pay for healthcare (or be insured) and £Billions of uncosted promises. No | |||
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"A landmark for Reform today as it is joint top in a national opinion poll for the first time. Labour and Reform on 25%, Tories on 20%, Lib Dem who cares. With the Labour economy in free fall and Kemi failing to impress so far, its hard to see this trend not continuing. Major shifts are underway in global politics and anything is possible. Does a Reform Govt inspire or scare you ?" Ask when they become a proper party. | |||
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"Their plans will cost £billions AND they want to reduce taxes. Have you not heard of the Laffer Curve? It's entirely possible to lower tax rates and at the same time increase tax revenues." Is that like Laff out loud? | |||
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"Reform the party that has a convicted time serving criminal as a M.P in parliament. (the m.p beat up his partner at the time, and was given a prison sentence). As I said before if reform are a real threat then MSM will print a story like I have reported here then they will be finished. We do need another political party but reform is not the way to go. In 2012, 43% of MPs had criminal convictions. They don't tell us anymore, wonder why that might be? " Any higher and it might as well be a requisite. | |||
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"It looks like we are well on course for Reform UK 2028. That has been the target all along.
I don’t care what a bunch of stuffed shirt liberals and leftists have to say about Reform, it’s like they would say that. It is good that a thread like this invites such vitriol. It means that they are worried, and so they should be.
As for Nigel. He has stuck to his guns, ever since leaving the Tories, when John Major signed the Maastricht Treaty. I think he would make a great Prime Minister.
They don’t have the people to stand for election - what are you on about? You do realise that any political party has to have hundreds of sufficiently competent MP’s ready, available and willing to stand at an election? Reform have hardly anyone.
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"New opinion poll puts Reform on 29%, Conservatives on 18% !" Have to say 29% is still not very good from any party no wonder this country is in a mess. | |||
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"New opinion poll puts Reform on 29%, Conservatives on 18% ! Have to say 29% is still not very good from any party no wonder this country is in a mess. " No none of them very popular atm. | |||
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