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"The two companies will reportedly join to create the world's 3rd largest car company. Hopefully good news for the Nissan plant at Sunderland. 🤞 Both make very reliable if slightly boring cars in my experience. If they could improve their design I think this merger will be a winner." Japanese car makers innovate in small increments, built on the past, competition and simplicity. The philosophy is to find a market leader, strip away the extraneous, simplify, simplify, simplify - test the crap out of it, then release a perfect, but boring, car. There have been a few exceptions (e.g. Prius) but people aren't buying Japanese for style and innovation. | |||
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"The two companies will reportedly join to create the world's 3rd largest car company. Hopefully good news for the Nissan plant at Sunderland. 🤞 Both make very reliable if slightly boring cars in my experience. If they could improve their design I think this merger will be a winner. Japanese car makers innovate in small increments, built on the past, competition and simplicity. The philosophy is to find a market leader, strip away the extraneous, simplify, simplify, simplify - test the crap out of it, then release a perfect, but boring, car. There have been a few exceptions (e.g. Prius) but people aren't buying Japanese for style and innovation." Interesting and makes sense. | |||
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"Only a few weeks ago I was reading that Nissan are in serious financial trouble. So I suppose this merger makes sense. Should it actually happen it may or may not be good news for Sunderland. The new company will have to cut back production and Sunderland could be in the firing line." A Report in Times yesterday that Honda could share Sunderland which sounds like good news for its future. | |||
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"Only a few weeks ago I was reading that Nissan are in serious financial trouble. So I suppose this merger makes sense. Should it actually happen it may or may not be good news for Sunderland. The new company will have to cut back production and Sunderland could be in the firing line. A Report in Times yesterday that Honda could share Sunderland which sounds like good news for its future." Not seen that but let's hope so. | |||
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" Both make very reliable if slightly boring cars in my experience. If they could improve their design I think this merger will be a winner. Japanese car makers innovate in small increments, built on the past, competition and simplicity. The philosophy is to find a market leader, strip away the extraneous, simplify, simplify, simplify - test the crap out of it, then release a perfect, but boring, car. There have been a few exceptions (e.g. Prius) but people aren't buying Japanese for style and innovation." I think that's a fair assessment of certain trends in car design and manufacture. It does feel as if there has been a shift in design ethos across the board ; and by that I mean mid to low market focussing on the basics. I am sure that less disposable income in those markets (and higher production costs) has been a part of that decision-making process too. However I don't think it's such a bad thing to have simple, pragmatic and utilitarian vehicles serve the majority of the market place. Go from A to B reliably, safely and as economically feasible as possible. | |||
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"The two companies will reportedly join to create the world's 3rd largest car company. Hopefully good news for the Nissan plant at Sunderland. 🤞 Both make very reliable if slightly boring cars in my experience. If they could improve their design I think this merger will be a winner." It’s actually an EV move ( I know you hate the tech) both have been slow into the space.. this way they can share platforms to build new cars on…. Bit like the way Kia/hyundai have successfully done so | |||
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"The two companies will reportedly join to create the world's 3rd largest car company. Hopefully good news for the Nissan plant at Sunderland. 🤞 Both make very reliable if slightly boring cars in my experience. If they could improve their design I think this merger will be a winner. It’s actually an EV move ( I know you hate the tech) " ??!! EV is great! Whatever gave you that impression? Of course, it isn't universally great for everyone but, in principle and for many people, it's wonderful. | |||
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"The two companies will reportedly join to create the world's 3rd largest car company. Hopefully good news for the Nissan plant at Sunderland. 🤞 Both make very reliable if slightly boring cars in my experience. If they could improve their design I think this merger will be a winner. It’s actually an EV move ( I know you hate the tech) ??!! EV is great! Whatever gave you that impression? Of course, it isn't universally great for everyone but, in principle and for many people, it's wonderful." Apologies, just realised that was to someone else. | |||
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"The two companies will reportedly join to create the world's 3rd largest car company. Hopefully good news for the Nissan plant at Sunderland. 🤞 Both make very reliable if slightly boring cars in my experience. If they could improve their design I think this merger will be a winner. It’s actually an EV move ( I know you hate the tech) ??!! EV is great! Whatever gave you that impression? Of course, it isn't universally great for everyone but, in principle and for many people, it's wonderful. Apologies, just realised that was to someone else." I have no issue with EV. 🤷♂️ | |||
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"I think they are heading towards a disposable car based on leasing. Keep it for a couple of years and go on to the next one, and hide the carbon footprint figures in the process. " The "leasing model" for many things is gaining a lot of traction across many market sectors. . Software is a prime example. . There was a time you'd buy Adobe Master Collection for a few hundred, install it on a PC (or Mac) and then run it across various O/S incarnations. Same with MS Office (which is now subscription based). Same with Netflix, Prime, Apple TV, Spotify and the list goes on an on. . So yes, I agree a similar model will evolve with EV's. And non-EV's. And TV's. Washing Machines. Cookers. Anything and everything can go the way of a subscription model with enough thought and traction. Even my hairdresser could launch her own "subscription model" if she really tried. After all, I've been getting my hair cut regularly by her for 4/5/maybe more years ? Isn't that a subscription by any other name ? You could argue that doing the weekly food shopping is not a subscription-service but most people go to the same place, buy the same things, and eat the same food week in/week out. Everything is a subscription in one form or another, formalised or not. So yes, EV's ? Definitely. Ripe for the plundering of "subscription services". | |||
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"I think they are heading towards a disposable car based on leasing. Keep it for a couple of years and go on to the next one, and hide the carbon footprint figures in the process. The "leasing model" for many things is gaining a lot of traction across many market sectors. . Software is a prime example. . There was a time you'd buy Adobe Master Collection for a few hundred, install it on a PC (or Mac) and then run it across various O/S incarnations. Same with MS Office (which is now subscription based). Same with Netflix, Prime, Apple TV, Spotify and the list goes on an on. . So yes, I agree a similar model will evolve with EV's. And non-EV's. And TV's. Washing Machines. Cookers. Anything and everything can go the way of a subscription model with enough thought and traction. Even my hairdresser could launch her own "subscription model" if she really tried. After all, I've been getting my hair cut regularly by her for 4/5/maybe more years ? Isn't that a subscription by any other name ? You could argue that doing the weekly food shopping is not a subscription-service but most people go to the same place, buy the same things, and eat the same food week in/week out. Everything is a subscription in one form or another, formalised or not. So yes, EV's ? Definitely. Ripe for the plundering of "subscription services". " I’m old enough to remember renting my tv and later a video recorder from Martin Dawes. Other rental companies were available  | |||
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"I’m old enough to remember renting my tv and later a video recorder from Martin Dawes. Other rental companies were available "Likewise....I think we had a "Rumbelows" in our local town at the time. My father rented a TV. | |||
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"The two companies will reportedly join to create the world's 3rd largest car company. Hopefully good news for the Nissan plant at Sunderland. 🤞 Both make very reliable if slightly boring cars in my experience. If they could improve their design I think this merger will be a winner. It’s actually an EV move ( I know you hate the tech) both have been slow into the space.. this way they can share platforms to build new cars on…. Bit like the way Kia/hyundai have successfully done so " Lol, wrong, Nissan has long been a pioneer in EV evolution with the evolution of the leaf. https://evlife.world/en/ae/news/goodbye-nissan-leaf-the-electric-pioneer/ Please stop misleading people with incorrect statements. World's third largest car company? All three of the companies are struggling, not really building from a strong platform. Add the fact Honda is partnering off of Nissan for its EV technology, something that has been rejected heavily in the last three years due to a public not accepting EV and infrastructure not there to support it. Now the UK clown show is pressing to speed up the transition by years. Seems like Joey and his clown show got the boot on this now the labour government here has told everyone, hold my beer. Let me see if we can finish up joeys job. | |||
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"Sadly, the best Japanese cars are not easily available in this country. The ones available for the mugs in Britain are models designed for and built in Europe for the LHD market and then bodged, including in Sunderland, for dumbo people here who don't event realise that they are being sold a poor relation of the real thing.. Most Brits have never experienced driving one of the vast range of Japanese cars made for the non european market. The only good thing about European models is that they stand up to salty winter roads better. " Can you back up any of those assertions or give any tangible examples? While it's true that some available Japanese marks are made in other factories in Europe (e.g. BMW, Peugeot, etc.) you've made quite a few sweeping generalisations. Some of the most popular Japanese cars are actually imported from Japan, and Japanese manufacturers are known for imposing very strict quality controls on their (owned and branded) overseas factories. As for the salty roads thing - Japan also sees a fair amount of snow (more than London). On what do you base that statement? | |||
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"Sadly, the best Japanese cars are not easily available in this country. The ones available for the mugs in Britain are models designed for and built in Europe for the LHD market and then bodged, including in Sunderland, for dumbo people here who don't event realise that they are being sold a poor relation of the real thing.. Most Brits have never experienced driving one of the vast range of Japanese cars made for the non european market. The only good thing about European models is that they stand up to salty winter roads better. Can you back up any of those assertions or give any tangible examples? While it's true that some available Japanese marks are made in other factories in Europe (e.g. BMW, Peugeot, etc.) you've made quite a few sweeping generalisations. Some of the most popular Japanese cars are actually imported from Japan, and Japanese manufacturers are known for imposing very strict quality controls on their (owned and branded) overseas factories. As for the salty roads thing - Japan also sees a fair amount of snow (more than London). On what do you base that statement?" I don't need to back anything up. I know exactly what I am talking about. I have always driven Japanese cars (going right back to to Datsun Cherries) every one of which was built in Japan, including my current pair. I would not buy nor have I ever bought any which were not proper right hand drive models. I also know that Northern Japan has potential for snow/ice/salt damage whilst in southern Japan the problem is negligible and consequently there are different variants of some models built to deal with that difference. | |||
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