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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. " The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH." 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH." a female officer knocked out with a broken nose not sufficient what injury do they need imagine if it was one of them rioters wonder what the sentence would be lol | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH." A Police Officer should be able to safely get home each day with no broken bones. It's GBH. | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. " A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions." I thought attacking someone causing injury in a public place was gbh | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. I thought attacking someone causing injury in a public place was gbh " No the charge depends on the severity of the injuries. A broken nose is not as severe as say a broken jaw, skull, limbs. | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. I thought attacking someone causing injury in a public place was gbh No the charge depends on the severity of the injuries. A broken nose is not as severe as say a broken jaw, skull, limbs. " ok if a broken nose and knocked out isn’t severe enough we need a change in the law | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. I thought attacking someone causing injury in a public place was gbh No the charge depends on the severity of the injuries. A broken nose is not as severe as say a broken jaw, skull, limbs. ok if a broken nose and knocked out isn’t severe enough we need a change in the law " That’s as maybe but they have been changed according to the current charging standards. | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. I thought attacking someone causing injury in a public place was gbh No the charge depends on the severity of the injuries. A broken nose is not as severe as say a broken jaw, skull, limbs. ok if a broken nose and knocked out isn’t severe enough we need a change in the law That’s as maybe but they have been changed according to the current charging standards." aw well hope they get a sentence someone else would get for the crimes I doubt it tho probs less than a tweet gets ya now lol | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. I thought attacking someone causing injury in a public place was gbh No the charge depends on the severity of the injuries. A broken nose is not as severe as say a broken jaw, skull, limbs. ok if a broken nose and knocked out isn’t severe enough we need a change in the law That’s as maybe but they have been changed according to the current charging standards." current standards .... that's why nutty niges race riot army didn't get the death penalty they deserved  | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. I thought attacking someone causing injury in a public place was gbh No the charge depends on the severity of the injuries. A broken nose is not as severe as say a broken jaw, skull, limbs. ok if a broken nose and knocked out isn’t severe enough we need a change in the law That’s as maybe but they have been changed according to the current charging standards. current standards .... that's why nutty niges race riot army didn't get the death penalty they deserved "it wasn’t anything to do with farage and the death penalty really get a grip so what should the scum at the airport get then ? | |||
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"They got off light Israeli cops would have slotted them on the spot. " i agree .... the scummy race rioters should've been offed outside the hotel etc.  | |||
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"No charge for the police officers I see." Police were doing they jobs, | |||
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"They got off light Israeli cops would have slotted them on the spot. i agree .... the scummy race rioters should've been offed outside the hotel etc. "pls seek help I don’t think posting shit like that makes you any better than them | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions." Fair enough, they should rewrite the guidelines to exclude certain bones then. | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. I thought attacking someone causing injury in a public place was gbh No the charge depends on the severity of the injuries. A broken nose is not as severe as say a broken jaw, skull, limbs. ok if a broken nose and knocked out isn’t severe enough we need a change in the law That’s as maybe but they have been changed according to the current charging standards. current standards .... that's why nutty niges race riot army didn't get the death penalty they deserved "You're a strange little man aren't you | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. I thought attacking someone causing injury in a public place was gbh No the charge depends on the severity of the injuries. A broken nose is not as severe as say a broken jaw, skull, limbs. ok if a broken nose and knocked out isn’t severe enough we need a change in the law That’s as maybe but they have been changed according to the current charging standards. current standards .... that's why nutty niges race riot army didn't get the death penalty they deserved
You're a strange little man aren't you"let's face it, everything is strange to people in bridgend butty | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. Fair enough, they should rewrite the guidelines to exclude certain bones then. " As far as sentencing is concerned there wouldn’t be much difference between what would be considered a high level ABH and a low level GBH. | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. Fair enough, they should rewrite the guidelines to exclude certain bones then. As far as sentencing is concerned there wouldn’t be much difference between what would be considered a high level ABH and a low level GBH. " Maybe not. But, and it's a big one, they won't get maximum tariffs. | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. Fair enough, they should rewrite the guidelines to exclude certain bones then. As far as sentencing is concerned there wouldn’t be much difference between what would be considered a high level ABH and a low level GBH. Maybe not. But, and it's a big one, they won't get maximum tariffs. " There is more chance of receiving a maximum sentence for ABH than if they were charged with GBH, again because a broken nose would be classified as serious injury under ABH but would be classified as minor injury under GBH. | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. Fair enough, they should rewrite the guidelines to exclude certain bones then. As far as sentencing is concerned there wouldn’t be much difference between what would be considered a high level ABH and a low level GBH. Maybe not. But, and it's a big one, they won't get maximum tariffs. There is more chance of receiving a maximum sentence for ABH than if they were charged with GBH, again because a broken nose would be classified as serious injury under ABH but would be classified as minor injury under GBH." Section 20 GBH (the lesser of GBH charges) is a max 5 year term, the same as ABH. I guarantee they get nowhere near the max. | |||
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"Why not simply wait for the full outcome rather than endless nonsense on what the final outcome might or might not be. " | |||
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"Why not simply wait for the full outcome rather than endless nonsense on what the final outcome might or might not be.
"so what its basically telling us is in the future im better off, going to the riots and braking a few noses aslong as i dont film it or send any tweets online about my views 😂country is fucked. I would be fucking fewmin if i were the officer and this is how the criminal system has your back its a joke | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. I thought attacking someone causing injury in a public place was gbh " if its a what u call a broken nose its 'ABH on an emergency worker'. You cant actually BREAK YOU NOSE, its just all gristle & no bone, all your doing is mis-shaping a nose. i say string all the scrotes up by their short n danglees & go 2 town on their ankles so they cant run away, .lols.mwahahaha | |||
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"They got off light Israeli cops would have slotted them on the spot. i agree .... the scummy race rioters should've been offed outside the hotel etc. "If advocating mu*der isn't against forum rules then it damn well should be. Disgraceful comment. And yes I've reported it. | |||
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"They got off light Israeli cops would have slotted them on the spot. i agree .... the scummy race rioters should've been offed outside the hotel etc.
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Disgraceful comment. And yes I've reported it."Don't hold your breathe | |||
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"They got off light Israeli cops would have slotted them on the spot. i agree .... the scummy race rioters should've been offed outside the hotel etc.
If advocating mu*der isn't against forum rules then it damn well should be.
Disgraceful comment. And yes I've reported it."Not saying I agree with the 'offing' comment but it's an interesting issue whereby a person is about to commit arson or is seen committing arson and there's a danger to life.. The police couldn't get through to stop him and the fire service policy is to not enter such an area where civil disorder/riot is taking place.. We used to work to the yellow card in the troubles and under that (I think your aware, apologies if not) lethal force could be used to prevent such if deemed necessary.. If it happens again it's not an easy call for anyone up the chain.. | |||
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"ABH? It was GBH. They'll probably get a couple of years for ABH though. The officers injuries were not sufficient for GBH. 'Serious physical harm including broken bones' puts it into the GBH category. A broken nose has never been GBH. I had mine broken twice. They were only charged ABH on both occasions. I thought attacking someone causing injury in a public place was gbh " i thought that might be classed as an affray , if u crack them back. | |||
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"The footage released today looks awful. Wonder what the pearl clutchers think now. " Yes it does look awful. The thin one dressed in light blue punching a female police officer full in the face. She went down like Tyson had just given her one. Almost certainly knocked out for a second or two. And you worry about a scum bag like that getting a bit of retribution? He wasn't even kicked that hard. It was hardly Beckham free kick territory. | |||
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"The footage released today looks awful. Wonder what the pearl clutchers think now. " I'm really surprised about the lack of attention this is being given. | |||
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"My opinions haven’t changed since I last looked at it. Yeah it’s bad & the two Asian lads absolutely deserve what is undoubtedly coming to them. However, the copper who booted the Asian lad in the head whilst he was down is also out of order & that requires disciplinary action too. There is a nanosecond where he lines his boot up before launching it towards the head. There is no condoning that imo " I don't condone him getting kicked in the head. The copper lost control and that is unforgiveable. Especially for an armed officer on airport security, I'm sure some kind of disciplinary action will follow. However let's not forget who started it and the level of violence aimed at the police that day. In some country's a kick in the head would have been the least of his worries. | |||
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"If anyone comes behind me and starts pulling my head down without explaining first I would of kicked off. The police have to ID themselves and to satisfy me show me warrant cards no matter what I am accused of. As for the kick and stampied n the head whilst being tasered was shocking to me, and as I expected no police were charged or reprimanded. The public cannot act in such ways or we know what to expect." I would think that any disciplinary action will have been delayed so as not to prejudice the current trial. | |||
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"My opinions haven’t changed since I last looked at it. Yeah it’s bad & the two Asian lads absolutely deserve what is undoubtedly coming to them. However, the copper who booted the Asian lad in the head whilst he was down is also out of order & that requires disciplinary action too. There is a nanosecond where he lines his boot up before launching it towards the head. There is no condoning that imo I don't condone him getting kicked in the head. The copper lost control and that is unforgiveable. Especially for an armed officer on airport security, I'm sure some kind of disciplinary action will follow. However let's not forget who started it and the level of violence aimed at the police that day. In some country's a kick in the head would have been the least of his worries. " This is the UK, and if we see this as ok and take in the reasons we excuse those we allow to police us giving out more power than they were ever suppose to have. Those asian guys will get what's coming they apparently attacked a person in a coffee shop which led to the incident. The police could of boxed the asian guy in explained he was being arrested and what for, if then the asian guy attacked the police well tough, but as usual the police with their arrogant attitude just think they can come behind a person and grab them with no come back or accountability. look at gov. and how a policemen should approach a person in public, the rules are different for more serious crimes I know. The videos should show the police their mistakes and how they should address them. The asian guys will serve very little time in prison due to the current state of our prison system. | |||
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"the police officers were in a physical fist fight with these men, ask the female officer if she wanted to fight these men, and the kick to the head was deserved, a few cracks to the head with a batton would of been my remedy." Violence cannot be an excuse for more violence. I come up behind you grab your neck and force you down against your will. Then you discover its a policeman who is treating you such, so as you say it is ok for the policeman to do this to you, and give you a couple of batten strikes to boot. The answer is no. | |||
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"If anyone comes behind me and starts pulling my head down without explaining first I would of kicked off. The police have to ID themselves and to satisfy me show me warrant cards no matter what I am accused of. As for the kick and stampied n the head whilst being tasered was shocking to me, and as I expected no police were charged or reprimanded. The public cannot act in such ways or we know what to expect." They don't have to show warrant cards in a situation such as that.. They were in full uniform and their number is easily visible.. To expect any officers to show their warrant card in the multitude of tasks and wrong uns we expect them to protect us from is nonsense.. The office who kicked the guy lost it for a millisecond in a situation you or I won't deal with, yes he should face a sanction but shouldn't lose his job.. | |||
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"the police officers were in a physical fist fight with these men, ask the female officer if she wanted to fight these men, and the kick to the head was deserved, a few cracks to the head with a batton would of been my remedy. Violence cannot be an excuse for more violence. I come up behind you grab your neck and force you down against your will. Then you discover its a policeman who is treating you such, so as you say it is ok for the policeman to do this to you, and give you a couple of batten strikes to boot. The answer is no." You said above you 'would have kicked off'..? | |||
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"the police officers were in a physical fist fight with these men, ask the female officer if she wanted to fight these men, and the kick to the head was deserved, a few cracks to the head with a batton would of been my remedy. Violence cannot be an excuse for more violence. I come up behind you grab your neck and force you down against your will. Then you discover its a policeman who is treating you such, so as you say it is ok for the policeman to do this to you, and give you a couple of batten strikes to boot. The answer is no." If you have just assaulted someone the police have the right to detaine and if you resist the detention you will be brought down to the floor, and if you resist it will get physical, if I had just assaulted someone with an accomplish like a coward, I would expect someone to step in and guess what it was the police who stepped in. | |||
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"If anyone comes behind me and starts pulling my head down without explaining first I would of kicked off. The police have to ID themselves and to satisfy me show me warrant cards no matter what I am accused of. As for the kick and stampied n the head whilst being tasered was shocking to me, and as I expected no police were charged or reprimanded. The public cannot act in such ways or we know what to expect. They don't have to show warrant cards in a situation such as that.. They were in full uniform and their number is easily visible.. To expect any officers to show their warrant card in the multitude of tasks and wrong uns we expect them to protect us from is nonsense.. The office who kicked the guy lost it for a millisecond in a situation you or I won't deal with, yes he should face a sanction but shouldn't lose his job.." Another person who has no clue, assumes and theses are the people I have to follow. I have engaged with offenders for the last 30y I have been trapped in rooms, threatened, punched and I cannot fight back, well I can but only to escape the situation. To kick and stamp on a persons when they are under distress is stupid as the officer could have caused more damage or worst. In the video situation the asian could of been boxed in and then his situation explained to him if he wants to play silly buggers then tough the police have done their job and the asian guy is putting them in danger and the public around them, and this is why the police are at fault because the public they protect were put in danger by there actions. The asian was grabbed from behind with no explanation, I can rent a police uniform, and security guards dress like the police so mistakes can be made. You are unaware of your rights the police gave no chance to ID themselves what the numbers were and which police station they were working out of today. But he couldn't ask as they grabbed him from behind giving either side time no time for explanation. | |||
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"If anyone comes behind me and starts pulling my head down without explaining first I would of kicked off. The police have to ID themselves and to satisfy me show me warrant cards no matter what I am accused of. As for the kick and stampied n the head whilst being tasered was shocking to me, and as I expected no police were charged or reprimanded. The public cannot act in such ways or we know what to expect. They don't have to show warrant cards in a situation such as that.. They were in full uniform and their number is easily visible.. To expect any officers to show their warrant card in the multitude of tasks and wrong uns we expect them to protect us from is nonsense.. The office who kicked the guy lost it for a millisecond in a situation you or I won't deal with, yes he should face a sanction but shouldn't lose his job.. Another person who has no clue, assumes and theses are the people I have to follow. I have engaged with offenders for the last 30y I have been trapped in rooms, threatened, punched and I cannot fight back, well I can but only to escape the situation. To kick and stamp on a persons when they are under distress is stupid as the officer could have caused more damage or worst. In the video situation the asian could of been boxed in and then his situation explained to him if he wants to play silly buggers then tough the police have done their job and the asian guy is putting them in danger and the public around them, and this is why the police are at fault because the public they protect were put in danger by there actions. The asian was grabbed from behind with no explanation, I can rent a police uniform, and security guards dress like the police so mistakes can be made. You are unaware of your rights the police gave no chance to ID themselves what the numbers were and which police station they were working out of today. But he couldn't ask as they grabbed him from behind giving either side time no time for explanation." He had already assaulted someone so the ante was upped with an increased potential risk.. You are aware of that yes? | |||
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"If anyone comes behind me and starts pulling my head down without explaining first I would of kicked off. The police have to ID themselves and to satisfy me show me warrant cards no matter what I am accused of. As for the kick and stampied n the head whilst being tasered was shocking to me, and as I expected no police were charged or reprimanded. The public cannot act in such ways or we know what to expect. They don't have to show warrant cards in a situation such as that.. They were in full uniform and their number is easily visible.. To expect any officers to show their warrant card in the multitude of tasks and wrong uns we expect them to protect us from is nonsense.. The office who kicked the guy lost it for a millisecond in a situation you or I won't deal with, yes he should face a sanction but shouldn't lose his job.. Another person who has no clue, assumes and theses are the people I have to follow. I have engaged with offenders for the last 30y I have been trapped in rooms, threatened, punched and I cannot fight back, well I can but only to escape the situation. To kick and stamp on a persons when they are under distress is stupid as the officer could have caused more damage or worst. In the video situation the asian could of been boxed in and then his situation explained to him if he wants to play silly buggers then tough the police have done their job and the asian guy is putting them in danger and the public around them, and this is why the police are at fault because the public they protect were put in danger by there actions. The asian was grabbed from behind with no explanation, I can rent a police uniform, and security guards dress like the police so mistakes can be made. You are unaware of your rights the police gave no chance to ID themselves what the numbers were and which police station they were working out of today. But he couldn't ask as they grabbed him from behind giving either side time no time for explanation. He had already assaulted someone so the ante was upped with an increased potential risk.. You are aware of that yes?" Exactly, to blame the police is ridiculous. The offender's commited a violent offence way before the police arrived, you could tell by their arrogant body language that they assume that they have the right to assault the police. To sound a tad childish " they started it" | |||
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"If anyone comes behind me and starts pulling my head down without explaining first I would of kicked off. The police have to ID themselves and to satisfy me show me warrant cards no matter what I am accused of. As for the kick and stampied n the head whilst being tasered was shocking to me, and as I expected no police were charged or reprimanded. The public cannot act in such ways or we know what to expect. They don't have to show warrant cards in a situation such as that.. They were in full uniform and their number is easily visible.. To expect any officers to show their warrant card in the multitude of tasks and wrong uns we expect them to protect us from is nonsense.. The office who kicked the guy lost it for a millisecond in a situation you or I won't deal with, yes he should face a sanction but shouldn't lose his job.. Another person who has no clue, assumes and theses are the people I have to follow. I have engaged with offenders for the last 30y I have been trapped in rooms, threatened, punched and I cannot fight back, well I can but only to escape the situation. To kick and stamp on a persons when they are under distress is stupid as the officer could have caused more damage or worst. In the video situation the asian could of been boxed in and then his situation explained to him if he wants to play silly buggers then tough the police have done their job and the asian guy is putting them in danger and the public around them, and this is why the police are at fault because the public they protect were put in danger by there actions. The asian was grabbed from behind with no explanation, I can rent a police uniform, and security guards dress like the police so mistakes can be made. You are unaware of your rights the police gave no chance to ID themselves what the numbers were and which police station they were working out of today. But he couldn't ask as they grabbed him from behind giving either side time no time for explanation." There’s a protocol for arresting dangerous suspects. All that went wrong was three officers were not enough for these two who clearly can handle themselves. American cops would have slotted both. | |||
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"If anyone comes behind me and starts pulling my head down without explaining first I would of kicked off. The police have to ID themselves and to satisfy me show me warrant cards no matter what I am accused of. As for the kick and stampied n the head whilst being tasered was shocking to me, and as I expected no police were charged or reprimanded. The public cannot act in such ways or we know what to expect. They don't have to show warrant cards in a situation such as that.. They were in full uniform and their number is easily visible.. To expect any officers to show their warrant card in the multitude of tasks and wrong uns we expect them to protect us from is nonsense.. The office who kicked the guy lost it for a millisecond in a situation you or I won't deal with, yes he should face a sanction but shouldn't lose his job.. Another person who has no clue, assumes and theses are the people I have to follow. I have engaged with offenders for the last 30y I have been trapped in rooms, threatened, punched and I cannot fight back, well I can but only to escape the situation. To kick and stamp on a persons when they are under distress is stupid as the officer could have caused more damage or worst. In the video situation the asian could of been boxed in and then his situation explained to him if he wants to play silly buggers then tough the police have done their job and the asian guy is putting them in danger and the public around them, and this is why the police are at fault because the public they protect were put in danger by there actions. The asian was grabbed from behind with no explanation, I can rent a police uniform, and security guards dress like the police so mistakes can be made. You are unaware of your rights the police gave no chance to ID themselves what the numbers were and which police station they were working out of today. But he couldn't ask as they grabbed him from behind giving either side time no time for explanation. He had already assaulted someone so the ante was upped with an increased potential risk.. You are aware of that yes? Exactly, to blame the police is ridiculous. The offender's commited a violent offence way before the police arrived, you could tell by their arrogant body language that they assume that they have the right to assault the police. To sound a tad childish " they started it"" Not sure I agree about arrogant body language myself, the footage can't reflect that in my opinion but they were probably fired up from their earlier assault no doubt.. the showing of warrant cards is ridiculous in the vast majority of cases they deal with, I wouldn't want that to even be a consideration where it one of my loved ones being attacked or at risk of by some thug.. | |||
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""... comes behind me and starts pulling my head down... kick and stamped on the head" Was it not the same police officer? If he'd waited for his female colleagues to put the cuffs on blue jacket before turning macho, the whole thing wouldn't have escalated so quickly. VERY bad judgement on his part." It seems you have blanked out a significant moment in the altercation. They were handcuffing the guy in blue when thug 2 came steaming in and throwing punches, at that point thug 1 in blue started kicking the police officers who had turned their attention to thug 2. Bold move by both thugs to go full on with armed police. They got away lightly in my opinion, it could have been a whole lot worse for them, attacking armed officers, breaking their noses is not the smartest thing to do... | |||
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""... comes behind me and starts pulling my head down... kick and stamped on the head" Was it not the same police officer? If he'd waited for his female colleagues to put the cuffs on blue jacket before turning macho, the whole thing wouldn't have escalated so quickly. VERY bad judgement on his part. It seems you have blanked out a significant moment in the altercation. They were handcuffing the guy in blue when thug 2 came steaming in and throwing punches, at that point thug 1 in blue started kicking the police officers who had turned their attention to thug 2. Bold move by both thugs to go full on with armed police. They got away lightly in my opinion, it could have been a whole lot worse for them, attacking armed officers, breaking their noses is not the smartest thing to do... " Their names are Muhammad and Mohammed. What would the original Mohammed have done to them if he were commanding the police?  | |||
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"Watching the unedited footage the police did handle it badly. Firstly they approached the men from behind. Secondly a small slimmer man was backed up by two small women against two young men. Both young men were clearly a danger as they had been reported as assaulting somebody prior. Not taking the thugs side, but frankly the police are no help to themselves sometimes." The person in Blue was using a carpark payment machine against a wall, that is why they approached him from behind. Regardless of being approached, the thugs instigated a ferocious attack on armed officers. | |||
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"Watching the unedited footage the police did handle it badly. Firstly they approached the men from behind. Secondly a small slimmer man was backed up by two small women against two young men. Both young men were clearly a danger as they had been reported as assaulting somebody prior. Not taking the thugs side, but frankly the police are no help to themselves sometimes. The person in Blue was using a carpark payment machine against a wall, that is why they approached him from behind. Regardless of being approached, the thugs instigated a ferocious attack on armed officers. " And they were not charged with anything when they were initially released from custody, an aggressive mob outside the police station saw to that and only after couple of mp's from one particular party threatened a private prosecution of the two individuals that the cps 'the state' finally charged the men. Pandering to the mob/bullies will just get you bullied more. | |||
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"If anyone comes behind me and starts pulling my head down without explaining first I would of kicked off. The police have to ID themselves and to satisfy me show me warrant cards no matter what I am accused of. As for the kick and stampied n the head whilst being tasered was shocking to me, and as I expected no police were charged or reprimanded. The public cannot act in such ways or we know what to expect. They don't have to show warrant cards in a situation such as that.. They were in full uniform and their number is easily visible.. To expect any officers to show their warrant card in the multitude of tasks and wrong uns we expect them to protect us from is nonsense.. The office who kicked the guy lost it for a millisecond in a situation you or I won't deal with, yes he should face a sanction but shouldn't lose his job.. Another person who has no clue, assumes and theses are the people I have to follow. I have engaged with offenders for the last 30y I have been trapped in rooms, threatened, punched and I cannot fight back, well I can but only to escape the situation. To kick and stamp on a persons when they are under distress is stupid as the officer could have caused more damage or worst. In the video situation the asian could of been boxed in and then his situation explained to him if he wants to play silly buggers then tough the police have done their job and the asian guy is putting them in danger and the public around them, and this is why the police are at fault because the public they protect were put in danger by there actions. The asian was grabbed from behind with no explanation, I can rent a police uniform, and security guards dress like the police so mistakes can be made. You are unaware of your rights the police gave no chance to ID themselves what the numbers were and which police station they were working out of today. But he couldn't ask as they grabbed him from behind giving either side time no time for explanation. There’s a protocol for arresting dangerous suspects. All that went wrong was three officers were not enough for these two who clearly can handle themselves. American cops would have slotted both. " Yes there is a protocol for arresting a suspect, coming from behind and getting roughed up and the person has no idea who it is is not one of them. Saying that a police officer does not have to ID themselves when asked by a member of the public shows how ill informed you are and why the police can do what they want. It is always the best protocol to explain, if explanation is not accepted well off to the station anyway they want it, and what I read from you is that it is ok because they had assaulted another person sounds like an eye for an eye to me which never works. | |||
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"If anyone comes behind me and starts pulling my head down without explaining first I would of kicked off. The police have to ID themselves and to satisfy me show me warrant cards no matter what I am accused of. As for the kick and stampied n the head whilst being tasered was shocking to me, and as I expected no police were charged or reprimanded. The public cannot act in such ways or we know what to expect. They don't have to show warrant cards in a situation such as that.. They were in full uniform and their number is easily visible.. To expect any officers to show their warrant card in the multitude of tasks and wrong uns we expect them to protect us from is nonsense.. The office who kicked the guy lost it for a millisecond in a situation you or I won't deal with, yes he should face a sanction but shouldn't lose his job.. Another person who has no clue, assumes and theses are the people I have to follow. I have engaged with offenders for the last 30y I have been trapped in rooms, threatened, punched and I cannot fight back, well I can but only to escape the situation. To kick and stamp on a persons when they are under distress is stupid as the officer could have caused more damage or worst. In the video situation the asian could of been boxed in and then his situation explained to him if he wants to play silly buggers then tough the police have done their job and the asian guy is putting them in danger and the public around them, and this is why the police are at fault because the public they protect were put in danger by there actions. The asian was grabbed from behind with no explanation, I can rent a police uniform, and security guards dress like the police so mistakes can be made. You are unaware of your rights the police gave no chance to ID themselves what the numbers were and which police station they were working out of today. But he couldn't ask as they grabbed him from behind giving either side time no time for explanation. There’s a protocol for arresting dangerous suspects. All that went wrong was three officers were not enough for these two who clearly can handle themselves. American cops would have slotted both. Yes there is a protocol for arresting a suspect, coming from behind and getting roughed up and the person has no idea who it is is not one of them. Saying that a police officer does not have to ID themselves when asked by a member of the public shows how ill informed you are and why the police can do what they want. It is always the best protocol to explain, if explanation is not accepted well off to the station anyway they want it, and what I read from you is that it is ok because they had assaulted another person sounds like an eye for an eye to me which never works." The advice from youtube auditors is not one size fits all. Circumstances dictate differing responses and actions in the moment... The person who was approached from behind did not start the fight with the police, it was his thug of a brother who waded in. | |||
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"If anyone comes behind me and starts pulling my head down without explaining first I would of kicked off. The police have to ID themselves and to satisfy me show me warrant cards no matter what I am accused of. As for the kick and stampied n the head whilst being tasered was shocking to me, and as I expected no police were charged or reprimanded. The public cannot act in such ways or we know what to expect. They don't have to show warrant cards in a situation such as that.. They were in full uniform and their number is easily visible.. To expect any officers to show their warrant card in the multitude of tasks and wrong uns we expect them to protect us from is nonsense.. The office who kicked the guy lost it for a millisecond in a situation you or I won't deal with, yes he should face a sanction but shouldn't lose his job.. Another person who has no clue, assumes and theses are the people I have to follow. I have engaged with offenders for the last 30y I have been trapped in rooms, threatened, punched and I cannot fight back, well I can but only to escape the situation. To kick and stamp on a persons when they are under distress is stupid as the officer could have caused more damage or worst. In the video situation the asian could of been boxed in and then his situation explained to him if he wants to play silly buggers then tough the police have done their job and the asian guy is putting them in danger and the public around them, and this is why the police are at fault because the public they protect were put in danger by there actions. The asian was grabbed from behind with no explanation, I can rent a police uniform, and security guards dress like the police so mistakes can be made. You are unaware of your rights the police gave no chance to ID themselves what the numbers were and which police station they were working out of today. But he couldn't ask as they grabbed him from behind giving either side time no time for explanation. There’s a protocol for arresting dangerous suspects. All that went wrong was three officers were not enough for these two who clearly can handle themselves. American cops would have slotted both. Yes there is a protocol for arresting a suspect, coming from behind and getting roughed up and the person has no idea who it is is not one of them. Saying that a police officer does not have to ID themselves when asked by a member of the public shows how ill informed you are and why the police can do what they want. It is always the best protocol to explain, if explanation is not accepted well off to the station anyway they want it, and what I read from you is that it is ok because they had assaulted another person sounds like an eye for an eye to me which never works. The advice from youtube auditors is not one size fits all. Circumstances dictate differing responses and actions in the moment... The person who was approached from behind did not start the fight with the police, it was his thug of a brother who waded in. " I do not take advise from YouTube I watch to see how many laws a policemen can break during an encounter with a member of the public, I already know my rights. I will never agree with violence from a public servant unless the servant gives time and explain themselves which may be a surprised I an entitled. So I punch a person assault them I walk away and the police approach me, I expect to hear excuse me sir I turn round see the police I think ho f45k, they tell me what I have done if I had I expect to feel handcuffs and lead to a police car if I struggle I expect equal force not excessive. The outcome is successful public are not distressed and arrest has been made. | |||
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"So you threw a punch you would expect one back. What's the problem." The problem is I would expect the punch from the person I punched not from a public servant coming from behind that's a no no and asking for trouble not in my opinion but my experience. Put it this way, if I were the asian man and I had assaulted another person, then shortly after I am grabbed from behind not knowing who in the moment. Would you think this is the guy who I just punched come for revenge? As plenty state on here we must not assume guilt, the same goes for the police. | |||
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"If anyone comes behind me and starts pulling my head down without explaining first I would of kicked off. The police have to ID themselves and to satisfy me show me warrant cards no matter what I am accused of. As for the kick and stampied n the head whilst being tasered was shocking to me, and as I expected no police were charged or reprimanded. The public cannot act in such ways or we know what to expect. They don't have to show warrant cards in a situation such as that.. They were in full uniform and their number is easily visible.. To expect any officers to show their warrant card in the multitude of tasks and wrong uns we expect them to protect us from is nonsense.. The office who kicked the guy lost it for a millisecond in a situation you or I won't deal with, yes he should face a sanction but shouldn't lose his job.. Another person who has no clue, assumes and theses are the people I have to follow. I have engaged with offenders for the last 30y I have been trapped in rooms, threatened, punched and I cannot fight back, well I can but only to escape the situation. To kick and stamp on a persons when they are under distress is stupid as the officer could have caused more damage or worst. In the video situation the asian could of been boxed in and then his situation explained to him if he wants to play silly buggers then tough the police have done their job and the asian guy is putting them in danger and the public around them, and this is why the police are at fault because the public they protect were put in danger by there actions. The asian was grabbed from behind with no explanation, I can rent a police uniform, and security guards dress like the police so mistakes can be made. You are unaware of your rights the police gave no chance to ID themselves what the numbers were and which police station they were working out of today. But he couldn't ask as they grabbed him from behind giving either side time no time for explanation. There’s a protocol for arresting dangerous suspects. All that went wrong was three officers were not enough for these two who clearly can handle themselves. American cops would have slotted both. Yes there is a protocol for arresting a suspect, coming from behind and getting roughed up and the person has no idea who it is is not one of them. Saying that a police officer does not have to ID themselves when asked by a member of the public shows how ill informed you are and why the police can do what they want. It is always the best protocol to explain, if explanation is not accepted well off to the station anyway they want it, and what I read from you is that it is ok because they had assaulted another person sounds like an eye for an eye to me which never works." lol you think he was being roughed up when the copper grabbed him from behind, jesus i hope you never have a run in with the metyou will know what being roughed up really means | |||
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"Watching the unedited footage the police did handle it badly. Firstly they approached the men from behind. Secondly a small slimmer man was backed up by two small women against two young men. Both young men were clearly a danger as they had been reported as assaulting somebody prior. Not taking the thugs side, but frankly the police are no help to themselves sometimes." they approched one from behind the other one came wading in behind the police, just a shame the copper didnt boot him in the face harder | |||
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"If anyone comes behind me and starts pulling my head down without explaining first I would of kicked off. The police have to ID themselves and to satisfy me show me warrant cards no matter what I am accused of. As for the kick and stampied n the head whilst being tasered was shocking to me, and as I expected no police were charged or reprimanded. The public cannot act in such ways or we know what to expect. They don't have to show warrant cards in a situation such as that.. They were in full uniform and their number is easily visible.. To expect any officers to show their warrant card in the multitude of tasks and wrong uns we expect them to protect us from is nonsense.. The office who kicked the guy lost it for a millisecond in a situation you or I won't deal with, yes he should face a sanction but shouldn't lose his job.. Another person who has no clue, assumes and theses are the people I have to follow. I have engaged with offenders for the last 30y I have been trapped in rooms, threatened, punched and I cannot fight back, well I can but only to escape the situation. To kick and stamp on a persons when they are under distress is stupid as the officer could have caused more damage or worst. In the video situation the asian could of been boxed in and then his situation explained to him if he wants to play silly buggers then tough the police have done their job and the asian guy is putting them in danger and the public around them, and this is why the police are at fault because the public they protect were put in danger by there actions. The asian was grabbed from behind with no explanation, I can rent a police uniform, and security guards dress like the police so mistakes can be made. You are unaware of your rights the police gave no chance to ID themselves what the numbers were and which police station they were working out of today. But he couldn't ask as they grabbed him from behind giving either side time no time for explanation. There’s a protocol for arresting dangerous suspects. All that went wrong was three officers were not enough for these two who clearly can handle themselves. American cops would have slotted both. Yes there is a protocol for arresting a suspect, coming from behind and getting roughed up and the person has no idea who it is is not one of them. Saying that a police officer does not have to ID themselves when asked by a member of the public shows how ill informed you are and why the police can do what they want. It is always the best protocol to explain, if explanation is not accepted well off to the station anyway they want it, and what I read from you is that it is ok because they had assaulted another person sounds like an eye for an eye to me which never works.lol you think he was being roughed up when the copper grabbed him from behind, jesus i hope you never have a run in with the metyou will know what being roughed up really means" your reply makes me more anxious and shows ignorance when you refer to the Met as in a way of saying everyone knows how some officers are and sadly accepts it. Well I will not, you have seen these guys defence he had no idea who had grabbed him I would of thought it was the person I illegally attacked and charged for, (maybe he deserved to be put in that situation due to what he is accused of, thinking the person who he attacked coming looking for him.). The police really have no idea what has occurred as they were not present, plus the police should accept they will be attacked it is part of the job. I have also read here that the police should do this or that all illegal and without consent, making yourselves common criminals and open to arrest in the someways you consent to. | |||
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"Watching the unedited footage the police did handle it badly. Firstly they approached the men from behind. Secondly a small slimmer man was backed up by two small women against two young men. Both young men were clearly a danger as they had been reported as assaulting somebody prior. Not taking the thugs side, but frankly the police are no help to themselves sometimes.they approched one from behind the other one came wading in behind the police, just a shame the copper didnt boot him in the face harder" Example here. No better than who he is commenting on. No better than those in the dock. | |||
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"So you threw a punch you would expect one back. What's the problem. The problem is I would expect the punch from the person I punched not from a public servant coming from behind that's a no no and asking for trouble not in my opinion but my experience. Put it this way, if I were the asian man and I had assaulted another person, then shortly after I am grabbed from behind not knowing who in the moment. Would you think this is the guy who I just punched come for revenge? As plenty state on here we must not assume guilt, the same goes for the police." So it has to be the person you just assaulted to be the only one to be allowed to touch you, look that's their problem they put themselves in. If members of the public attempted to initiate a lawful arrest the same way and they were assaulted, who is in the wrong. | |||
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"Watching the unedited footage the police did handle it badly. Firstly they approached the men from behind. Secondly a small slimmer man was backed up by two small women against two young men. Both young men were clearly a danger as they had been reported as assaulting somebody prior. Not taking the thugs side, but frankly the police are no help to themselves sometimes.they approched one from behind the other one came wading in behind the police, just a shame the copper didnt boot him in the face harder Example here. No better than who he is commenting on. No better than those in the dock." not at all I dunno about you but as far as I'm concerned if you hit a woman the way he did you deserve to have the shit kicked out of you,you may think otherwise but most people won't see a problem he got of lightly | |||
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"The two lowlifes have finally been charged with abh " I don't think anyone so far in the thread, has mentioned the beginnings of a riot that these lowlifes fueled, after their solicitor described the incident as an "attempted joint enterprise assassination' by the police following another night of demonstrations." | |||
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"The two lowlifes have finally been charged with abh I don't think anyone so far in the thread, has mentioned the beginnings of a riot that these lowlifes fueled, after their solicitor described the incident as an "attempted joint enterprise assassination' by the police following another night of demonstrations."" That lawyer was an utter clown. Sadly his sentiments were echoed by a community leader who said if the police were not immediately arrested and sent to prison then he would incite a riot. Not sure why he wasn’t arrested like Lucy Connolly. | |||
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"So you threw a punch you would expect one back. What's the problem. The problem is I would expect the punch from the person I punched not from a public servant coming from behind that's a no no and asking for trouble not in my opinion but my experience. Put it this way, if I were the asian man and I had assaulted another person, then shortly after I am grabbed from behind not knowing who in the moment. Would you think this is the guy who I just punched come for revenge? As plenty state on here we must not assume guilt, the same goes for the police. So it has to be the person you just assaulted to be the only one to be allowed to touch you, look that's their problem they put themselves in. If members of the public attempted to initiate a lawful arrest the same way and they were assaulted, who is in the wrong." Read carefully, my back is turned I do not know who has just grabbed me and pushing my head down, I would think it was the guy I assaulted, if I assaulted a person. The last thing I expect is a policeman who hasn't ID himself, I do not care what they think, I do not care I took a risky job there's is more risky than mine was, but I took the responsibility that came with that job and so must the police. There is a term you may not know for a public servant of any kind who refuses or doesn't ID themselves "ROUGE" is the term. | |||
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"Watching the unedited footage the police did handle it badly. Firstly they approached the men from behind. Secondly a small slimmer man was backed up by two small women against two young men. Both young men were clearly a danger as they had been reported as assaulting somebody prior. Not taking the thugs side, but frankly the police are no help to themselves sometimes.they approched one from behind the other one came wading in behind the police, just a shame the copper didnt boot him in the face harder Example here. No better than who he is commenting on. No better than those in the dock.not at all I dunno about you but as far as I'm concerned if you hit a woman the way he did you deserve to have the shit kicked out of you,you may think otherwise but most people won't see a problem he got of lightly" Simply you are no better than them, in these days women do not need a mansplaining thug to protect her, the officer tasered the guy to the floor after being assaulted. She is trained and in fact could put me or you on the floor. But I am sure she wouldn't kick and stamp on my head in revenge for not following procedure. | |||
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"Watching the unedited footage the police did handle it badly. Firstly they approached the men from behind. Secondly a small slimmer man was backed up by two small women against two young men. Both young men were clearly a danger as they had been reported as assaulting somebody prior. Not taking the thugs side, but frankly the police are no help to themselves sometimes.they approched one from behind the other one came wading in behind the police, just a shame the copper didnt boot him in the face harder Example here. No better than who he is commenting on. No better than those in the dock.not at all I dunno about you but as far as I'm concerned if you hit a woman the way he did you deserve to have the shit kicked out of you,you may think otherwise but most people won't see a problem he got of lightly Simply you are no better than them, in these days women do not need a mansplaining thug to protect her, the officer tasered the guy to the floor after being assaulted. She is trained and in fact could put me or you on the floor. But I am sure she wouldn't kick and stamp on my head in revenge for not following procedure." whatever you say benny but most people don't like seeing women hit like a man also you really need to brush up on what man splaining is,good to know that you think it's fine to punch women in the face and break there nose though | |||
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"Watching the unedited footage the police did handle it badly. Firstly they approached the men from behind. Secondly a small slimmer man was backed up by two small women against two young men. Both young men were clearly a danger as they had been reported as assaulting somebody prior. Not taking the thugs side, but frankly the police are no help to themselves sometimes.they approched one from behind the other one came wading in behind the police, just a shame the copper didnt boot him in the face harder Example here. No better than who he is commenting on. No better than those in the dock.not at all I dunno about you but as far as I'm concerned if you hit a woman the way he did you deserve to have the shit kicked out of you,you may think otherwise but most people won't see a problem he got of lightly Simply you are no better than them, in these days women do not need a mansplaining thug to protect her, the officer tasered the guy to the floor after being assaulted. She is trained and in fact could put me or you on the floor. But I am sure she wouldn't kick and stamp on my head in revenge for not following procedure.whatever you say benny but most people don't like seeing women hit like a man also you really need to brush up on what man splaining is,good to know that you think it's fine to punch women in the face and break there nose though" Those are your assumptions, if you read it I wrote it, but I didn't you assumed it. | |||
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"So you threw a punch you would expect one back. What's the problem. The problem is I would expect the punch from the person I punched not from a public servant coming from behind that's a no no and asking for trouble not in my opinion but my experience. Put it this way, if I were the asian man and I had assaulted another person, then shortly after I am grabbed from behind not knowing who in the moment. Would you think this is the guy who I just punched come for revenge? As plenty state on here we must not assume guilt, the same goes for the police. So it has to be the person you just assaulted to be the only one to be allowed to touch you, look that's their problem they put themselves in. If members of the public attempted to initiate a lawful arrest the same way and they were assaulted, who is in the wrong. Read carefully, my back is turned I do not know who has just grabbed me and pushing my head down, I would think it was the guy I assaulted, if I assaulted a person. The last thing I expect is a policeman who hasn't ID himself, I do not care what they think, I do not care I took a risky job there's is more risky than mine was, but I took the responsibility that came with that job and so must the police. There is a term you may not know for a public servant of any kind who refuses or doesn't ID themselves "ROUGE" is the term." So they had their eyes closed when they resisted the detention and could not see or recognise they were police officers, but hold on they did have their eyes open too land the punches on the officers they had to be stopped with a tasser, err the officers ID is on display a name and number they were not plain clothes officers, I tell you what as a member of the public if I had witnessed their assault on a lone person, i would approach and attempt to detain until the police arrived, wouldn’t you. | |||
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"So you threw a punch you would expect one back. What's the problem. The problem is I would expect the punch from the person I punched not from a public servant coming from behind that's a no no and asking for trouble not in my opinion but my experience. Put it this way, if I were the asian man and I had assaulted another person, then shortly after I am grabbed from behind not knowing who in the moment. Would you think this is the guy who I just punched come for revenge? As plenty state on here we must not assume guilt, the same goes for the police. So it has to be the person you just assaulted to be the only one to be allowed to touch you, look that's their problem they put themselves in. If members of the public attempted to initiate a lawful arrest the same way and they were assaulted, who is in the wrong. Read carefully, my back is turned I do not know who has just grabbed me and pushing my head down, I would think it was the guy I assaulted, if I assaulted a person. The last thing I expect is a policeman who hasn't ID himself, I do not care what they think, I do not care I took a risky job there's is more risky than mine was, but I took the responsibility that came with that job and so must the police. There is a term you may not know for a public servant of any kind who refuses or doesn't ID themselves "ROUGE" is the term. So they had their eyes closed when they resisted the detention and could not see or recognise they were police officers, but hold on they did have their eyes open too land the punches on the officers they had to be stopped with a tasser, err the officers ID is on display a name and number they were not plain clothes officers, I tell you what as a member of the public if I had witnessed their assault on a lone person, i would approach and attempt to detain until the police arrived, wouldn’t you. " They come from behind held his arms and try to force his head down, he punched on the turn, then saw his attacker was a policeman. But way to late as his brother who saw they were the police waded in and all hell broke loose. These blokes are getting jail time I am not fussed. The police acted in an unprofessional manner, especially as it was in a public place, faith in the police is at an all time low due to actions of officers when they interact with the public. When it comes to a citizens arrest, I wouldn't do it many people fall foul of the law, mainly due to a level of violence, or in the way a person is restrained. The police are trained to restrain a person, it may take upto 6 officers to restrain 1 person. | |||
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"So you threw a punch you would expect one back. What's the problem. The problem is I would expect the punch from the person I punched not from a public servant coming from behind that's a no no and asking for trouble not in my opinion but my experience. Put it this way, if I were the asian man and I had assaulted another person, then shortly after I am grabbed from behind not knowing who in the moment. Would you think this is the guy who I just punched come for revenge? As plenty state on here we must not assume guilt, the same goes for the police. So it has to be the person you just assaulted to be the only one to be allowed to touch you, look that's their problem they put themselves in. If members of the public attempted to initiate a lawful arrest the same way and they were assaulted, who is in the wrong. Read carefully, my back is turned I do not know who has just grabbed me and pushing my head down, I would think it was the guy I assaulted, if I assaulted a person. The last thing I expect is a policeman who hasn't ID himself, I do not care what they think, I do not care I took a risky job there's is more risky than mine was, but I took the responsibility that came with that job and so must the police. There is a term you may not know for a public servant of any kind who refuses or doesn't ID themselves "ROUGE" is the term. So they had their eyes closed when they resisted the detention and could not see or recognise they were police officers, but hold on they did have their eyes open too land the punches on the officers they had to be stopped with a tasser, err the officers ID is on display a name and number they were not plain clothes officers, I tell you what as a member of the public if I had witnessed their assault on a lone person, i would approach and attempt to detain until the police arrived, wouldn’t you. They come from behind held his arms and try to force his head down, he punched on the turn, then saw his attacker was a policeman. But way to late as his brother who saw they were the police waded in and all hell broke loose. These blokes are getting jail time I am not fussed. The police acted in an unprofessional manner, especially as it was in a public place, faith in the police is at an all time low due to actions of officers when they interact with the public. When it comes to a citizens arrest, I wouldn't do it many people fall foul of the law, mainly due to a level of violence, or in the way a person is restrained. The police are trained to restrain a person, it may take upto 6 officers to restrain 1 person. " Your argument doesn't stack up. Our police go into dangerous and volatile situations every day. If you have tolerance of assaulting an officer for any reason whatsoever you remove their greatest protection. Then what? Armed police and knee-jerk shootings like the US? We must have zero tolerance of assaulting a police officer, it's as simple as that. | |||
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"So you threw a punch you would expect one back. What's the problem. The problem is I would expect the punch from the person I punched not from a public servant coming from behind that's a no no and asking for trouble not in my opinion but my experience. Put it this way, if I were the asian man and I had assaulted another person, then shortly after I am grabbed from behind not knowing who in the moment. Would you think this is the guy who I just punched come for revenge? As plenty state on here we must not assume guilt, the same goes for the police. So it has to be the person you just assaulted to be the only one to be allowed to touch you, look that's their problem they put themselves in. If members of the public attempted to initiate a lawful arrest the same way and they were assaulted, who is in the wrong. Read carefully, my back is turned I do not know who has just grabbed me and pushing my head down, I would think it was the guy I assaulted, if I assaulted a person. The last thing I expect is a policeman who hasn't ID himself, I do not care what they think, I do not care I took a risky job there's is more risky than mine was, but I took the responsibility that came with that job and so must the police. There is a term you may not know for a public servant of any kind who refuses or doesn't ID themselves "ROUGE" is the term. So they had their eyes closed when they resisted the detention and could not see or recognise they were police officers, but hold on they did have their eyes open too land the punches on the officers they had to be stopped with a tasser, err the officers ID is on display a name and number they were not plain clothes officers, I tell you what as a member of the public if I had witnessed their assault on a lone person, i would approach and attempt to detain until the police arrived, wouldn’t you. They come from behind held his arms and try to force his head down, he punched on the turn, then saw his attacker was a policeman. But way to late as his brother who saw they were the police waded in and all hell broke loose. These blokes are getting jail time I am not fussed. The police acted in an unprofessional manner, especially as it was in a public place, faith in the police is at an all time low due to actions of officers when they interact with the public. When it comes to a citizens arrest, I wouldn't do it many people fall foul of the law, mainly due to a level of violence, or in the way a person is restrained. The police are trained to restrain a person, it may take upto 6 officers to restrain 1 person. Your argument doesn't stack up. Our police go into dangerous and volatile situations every day. If you have tolerance of assaulting an officer for any reason whatsoever you remove their greatest protection. Then what? Armed police and knee-jerk shootings like the US? We must have zero tolerance of assaulting a police officer, it's as simple as that. " Their greatest protection is our consent, everything else is about accountability. | |||
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"So you threw a punch you would expect one back. What's the problem. The problem is I would expect the punch from the person I punched not from a public servant coming from behind that's a no no and asking for trouble not in my opinion but my experience. Put it this way, if I were the asian man and I had assaulted another person, then shortly after I am grabbed from behind not knowing who in the moment. Would you think this is the guy who I just punched come for revenge? As plenty state on here we must not assume guilt, the same goes for the police. So it has to be the person you just assaulted to be the only one to be allowed to touch you, look that's their problem they put themselves in. If members of the public attempted to initiate a lawful arrest the same way and they were assaulted, who is in the wrong. Read carefully, my back is turned I do not know who has just grabbed me and pushing my head down, I would think it was the guy I assaulted, if I assaulted a person. The last thing I expect is a policeman who hasn't ID himself, I do not care what they think, I do not care I took a risky job there's is more risky than mine was, but I took the responsibility that came with that job and so must the police. There is a term you may not know for a public servant of any kind who refuses or doesn't ID themselves "ROUGE" is the term. So they had their eyes closed when they resisted the detention and could not see or recognise they were police officers, but hold on they did have their eyes open too land the punches on the officers they had to be stopped with a tasser, err the officers ID is on display a name and number they were not plain clothes officers, I tell you what as a member of the public if I had witnessed their assault on a lone person, i would approach and attempt to detain until the police arrived, wouldn’t you. They come from behind held his arms and try to force his head down, he punched on the turn, then saw his attacker was a policeman. But way to late as his brother who saw they were the police waded in and all hell broke loose. These blokes are getting jail time I am not fussed. The police acted in an unprofessional manner, especially as it was in a public place, faith in the police is at an all time low due to actions of officers when they interact with the public. When it comes to a citizens arrest, I wouldn't do it many people fall foul of the law, mainly due to a level of violence, or in the way a person is restrained. The police are trained to restrain a person, it may take upto 6 officers to restrain 1 person. Your argument doesn't stack up. Our police go into dangerous and volatile situations every day. If you have tolerance of assaulting an officer for any reason whatsoever you remove their greatest protection. Then what? Armed police and knee-jerk shootings like the US? We must have zero tolerance of assaulting a police officer, it's as simple as that. Their greatest protection is our consent, everything else is about accountability. " Well yes, but we can't consent to sending officers into violent situations unarmed with the prospect of serious injury. They do a special job that requires special protection. If they overstep the mark, it's for the law to decide their guilt not some brawling low life. | |||
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"So you threw a punch you would expect one back. What's the problem. The problem is I would expect the punch from the person I punched not from a public servant coming from behind that's a no no and asking for trouble not in my opinion but my experience. Put it this way, if I were the asian man and I had assaulted another person, then shortly after I am grabbed from behind not knowing who in the moment. Would you think this is the guy who I just punched come for revenge? As plenty state on here we must not assume guilt, the same goes for the police. So it has to be the person you just assaulted to be the only one to be allowed to touch you, look that's their problem they put themselves in. If members of the public attempted to initiate a lawful arrest the same way and they were assaulted, who is in the wrong. Read carefully, my back is turned I do not know who has just grabbed me and pushing my head down, I would think it was the guy I assaulted, if I assaulted a person. The last thing I expect is a policeman who hasn't ID himself, I do not care what they think, I do not care I took a risky job there's is more risky than mine was, but I took the responsibility that came with that job and so must the police. There is a term you may not know for a public servant of any kind who refuses or doesn't ID themselves "ROUGE" is the term. So they had their eyes closed when they resisted the detention and could not see or recognise they were police officers, but hold on they did have their eyes open too land the punches on the officers they had to be stopped with a tasser, err the officers ID is on display a name and number they were not plain clothes officers, I tell you what as a member of the public if I had witnessed their assault on a lone person, i would approach and attempt to detain until the police arrived, wouldn’t you. They come from behind held his arms and try to force his head down, he punched on the turn, then saw his attacker was a policeman. But way to late as his brother who saw they were the police waded in and all hell broke loose. These blokes are getting jail time I am not fussed. The police acted in an unprofessional manner, especially as it was in a public place, faith in the police is at an all time low due to actions of officers when they interact with the public. When it comes to a citizens arrest, I wouldn't do it many people fall foul of the law, mainly due to a level of violence, or in the way a person is restrained. The police are trained to restrain a person, it may take upto 6 officers to restrain 1 person. Your argument doesn't stack up. Our police go into dangerous and volatile situations every day. If you have tolerance of assaulting an officer for any reason whatsoever you remove their greatest protection. Then what? Armed police and knee-jerk shootings like the US? We must have zero tolerance of assaulting a police officer, it's as simple as that. Their greatest protection is our consent, everything else is about accountability. Well yes, but we can't consent to sending officers into violent situations unarmed with the prospect of serious injury. They do a special job that requires special protection. If they overstep the mark, it's for the law to decide their guilt not some brawling low life." Well there is only one thing I would add after special protection I would also add training especially working with the public, I also think to be able to carry hand guns and multipurpose weapons including automatic machine guns run covert surveillance, powerful performance cars, helicopters the list of special powers and equipment seems to be infinite, be able to use tasers, extreme violence, the police I think have all they need and more. | |||
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