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"This is a pretty normal occurrence, right? The US shutdown threat is normally down to specific divisions over spending priorities and are par for the course. Why is this one different, is it because of Musk?" no, it was because loads of the republican house majority thought it was shit and they voted against it. | |||
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"This is a pretty normal occurrence, right? The US shutdown threat is normally down to specific divisions over spending priorities and are par for the course. Why is this one different, is it because of Musk?" Yeah the US Govt shuts down more often than the British train drivers. | |||
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"This is a pretty normal occurrence, right? The US shutdown threat is normally down to specific divisions over spending priorities and are par for the course. Why is this one different, is it because of Musk?" Basically the republican budget was always going to need some democrats assistance because the majority is 7 and there were about a group of 30 republicans that out of principle have said no budget increases that would increase the national debt So what was agreed was a 3 month continuation resolution to spend at the current rate with extra special money for disaster relief and farming help And then musk and Trump blew it up! The interesting thing about the trump musk counter proposal was no new spending… programs like CHiPs and research on cancer, especially children cancer to be gutted ( bit ominous for the “concept of a healthcare plan “ folks … and for the debt limit provisions to be removed (making it easier for trump to give himself and his his billionaire friends a lovely tax cut) | |||
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"This is a pretty normal occurrence, right? The US shutdown threat is normally down to specific divisions over spending priorities and are par for the course. Why is this one different, is it because of Musk? Yeah the US Govt shuts down more often than the British train drivers." Actually… it’s threatened a lot but doesn’t actually happen very often because of the whole “ you don’t want to get blamed for federal employees not getting money “ thing So the last one was actually back in 2018…..longest one ever..31 days! | |||
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"Why have they 'put their foot in their mouths'. Wasn't this there plan? Otherwise, what's the point in DOGE?" Because when we say… no federal employees get paid, it means no federal employees gets paid!!! Anyone not considered “essential” is basically furloughed….. no federal spaces open, no federal court cases happening, passports, drivers licenses ect Those who are considered essential still have to work, but don’t get paid until everything is settled…. Soldiers, veterans, air traffic controllers, ect ect Imagine living paycheque to paycheque… and then being told.. nope nothing! With mortgages and car payments and various insurances and general living expenses | |||
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"Why have they 'put their foot in their mouths'. Wasn't this there plan? Otherwise, what's the point in DOGE? Because when we say… no federal employees get paid, it means no federal employees gets paid!!! Anyone not considered “essential” is basically furloughed….. no federal spaces open, no federal court cases happening, passports, drivers licenses ect Those who are considered essential still have to work, but don’t get paid until everything is settled…. Soldiers, veterans, air traffic controllers, ect ect Imagine living paycheque to paycheque… and then being told.. nope nothing! With mortgages and car payments and various insurances and general living expenses " yes that’s awfull for them hope it gets sorted so do you want the bill to be passed then ? | |||
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"how can this be resolved when know one in the republican party seems to know who the f**k is in charge? "Actually a Democrat President is supposed to be in charge. Someone had better wake him up. | |||
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"how can this be resolved when know one in the republican party seems to know who the f**k is in charge?
Actually a Democrat President is supposed to be in charge. Someone had better wake him up."last time i checked it was the retarded righty republicans incharge of the house, but maybe not in your fantasy world | |||
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"how can this be resolved when know one in the republican party seems to know who the f**k is in charge? "Irony being that at the moment the republicans have a majority of 9 in the house… and because they cannot get their shit together on most issues and all vote the same way, on most issues there has to be some sort of bipartisanship As on January 3rd… that 9 seats majority will become a 3 seat majority!!! It’s not going to get any better! | |||
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"how can this be resolved when know one in the republican party seems to know who the f**k is in charge?
Actually a Democrat President is supposed to be in charge. Someone had better wake him up."Erm…. Republican house needs to come up with something and set a budget! Which they have not been able to do in this entire session (which is why it’s been CR after CR every 6 months ish) the president can have a wish list of suggestions, But the American adage has always been “the house hold the purse strings! “ House needs to pass a bill (as a normal majority) then senate gets it turn( which would normally need a 2/3 majority).. only then does it get to the presidents desk to sign something | |||
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"how can this be resolved when know one in the republican party seems to know who the f**k is in charge?
Actually a Democrat President is supposed to be in charge. Someone had better wake him up.
Erm…. Republican house needs to come up with something and set a budget! Which they have not been able to do in this entire session (which is why it’s been CR after CR every 6 months ish)
the president can have a wish list of suggestions, But the American adage has always been “the house hold the purse strings! “
House needs to pass a bill (as a normal majority) then senate gets it turn( which would normally need a 2/3 majority).. only then does it get to the presidents desk to sign something "The House voted against the Bill supported by President Elect Trump, with most of those against being Democrats. But following your logic actual President Biden has no influence over his own party while Trump is responsible for the votes of those who opposed him. OK.... | |||
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"how can this be resolved when know one in the republican party seems to know who the f**k is in charge?
Irony being that at the moment the republicans have a majority of 9 in the house… and because they cannot get their shit together on most issues and all vote the same way, on most issues there has to be some sort of bipartisanship
As on January 3rd… that 9 seats majority will become a 3 seat majority!!! It’s not going to get any better! "so do you think they will sort it out and get it through and do you want it to go through _abio ? | |||
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" The problem is the the Republican party has become a party of protest with no real ideology besides enriching the already rich. They lack people of competence and instead promote some who are frankly morons with no clue to the daily struggle most face" so like the labour party and Tories here then | |||
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"Why have they 'put their foot in their mouths'. Wasn't this there plan? Otherwise, what's the point in DOGE? Because when we say… no federal employees get paid, it means no federal employees gets paid!!! Anyone not considered “essential” is basically furloughed….. no federal spaces open, no federal court cases happening, passports, drivers licenses ect Those who are considered essential still have to work, but don’t get paid until everything is settled…. Soldiers, veterans, air traffic controllers, ect ect Imagine living paycheque to paycheque… and then being told.. nope nothing! With mortgages and car payments and various insurances and general living expenses " I'll ask again.. Wasn't this their plan? | |||
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"how can this be resolved when know one in the republican party seems to know who the f**k is in charge?
Actually a Democrat President is supposed to be in charge. Someone had better wake him up.
Erm…. Republican house needs to come up with something and set a budget! Which they have not been able to do in this entire session (which is why it’s been CR after CR every 6 months ish)
the president can have a wish list of suggestions, But the American adage has always been “the house hold the purse strings! “
House needs to pass a bill (as a normal majority) then senate gets it turn( which would normally need a 2/3 majority).. only then does it get to the presidents desk to sign something
The House voted against the Bill supported by President Elect Trump, with most of those against being Democrats. But following your logic actual President Biden has no influence over his own party while Trump is responsible for the votes of those who opposed him. OK...."You are not understanding…. The president can propose what budget he would like with the numbers his government have … however in the US it’s the house that act as the treasury and actually proposed any budget build… that’s held by the republicans The issue for the last 2 years at least is that the republicans can’t within themselves decide on a budget bill that could pass that would not need any Democratic Party support (as there is about a hardcore of about 30 republicans who believe that there should be no more increases in government spending without cutting spending elsewhere as to not increase debt) The other issue is that the US system has a debt level ceiling so no government can basically go mental That is why every 3-6 months they pass a CR that saying “we will continue spending at current levels plus inflation.. and then stick in extra money for certain areas as needed… so this one has money for disaster relief for places that were affected by hurricanes What had been agreed was another 6 months CR extension to take them up to to debt limit The problem is that the four “corners” (people representing house republicans, house democrats, senate republicans and senate democrats) had all agreed on this 3 month “extension” to allow for further negotiations with a new administration as to what they want their priorities to be Musk and trump with literally 2 days left blew this up by saying “not what we want!” To which house republicans withdrew bill… Musk and trump basically rewrote the bill removing some interesting bit and also wanting the debt ceiling “suspended” so they could in effect spend whatever they want The house democrats. Plus 40 house republicans said no….. bill defeated | |||
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"Why have they 'put their foot in their mouths'. Wasn't this there plan? Otherwise, what's the point in DOGE? Because when we say… no federal employees get paid, it means no federal employees gets paid!!! Anyone not considered “essential” is basically furloughed….. no federal spaces open, no federal court cases happening, passports, drivers licenses ect Those who are considered essential still have to work, but don’t get paid until everything is settled…. Soldiers, veterans, air traffic controllers, ect ect Imagine living paycheque to paycheque… and then being told.. nope nothing! With mortgages and car payments and various insurances and general living expenses I'll ask again.. Wasn't this their plan?" No…. Big difference between “finding government efficiency “ and “not paying anyone” | |||
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"Why have they 'put their foot in their mouths'. Wasn't this there plan? Otherwise, what's the point in DOGE? Because when we say… no federal employees get paid, it means no federal employees gets paid!!! Anyone not considered “essential” is basically furloughed….. no federal spaces open, no federal court cases happening, passports, drivers licenses ect Those who are considered essential still have to work, but don’t get paid until everything is settled…. Soldiers, veterans, air traffic controllers, ect ect Imagine living paycheque to paycheque… and then being told.. nope nothing! With mortgages and car payments and various insurances and general living expenses I'll ask again.. Wasn't this their plan? No…. Big difference between “finding government efficiency “ and “not paying anyone” " are they worthy of been paid? Sounds a brill idea over here tbh who do we put this idea forward to? | |||
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"Why have they 'put their foot in their mouths'. Wasn't this there plan? Otherwise, what's the point in DOGE? Because when we say… no federal employees get paid, it means no federal employees gets paid!!! Anyone not considered “essential” is basically furloughed….. no federal spaces open, no federal court cases happening, passports, drivers licenses ect Those who are considered essential still have to work, but don’t get paid until everything is settled…. Soldiers, veterans, air traffic controllers, ect ect Imagine living paycheque to paycheque… and then being told.. nope nothing! With mortgages and car payments and various insurances and general living expenses I'll ask again.. Wasn't this their plan? No…. Big difference between “finding government efficiency “ and “not paying anyone” " I'm pretty certain there has been calls to close Govt until 20th Jan. | |||
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"Why have they 'put their foot in their mouths'. Wasn't this there plan? Otherwise, what's the point in DOGE? Because when we say… no federal employees get paid, it means no federal employees gets paid!!! Anyone not considered “essential” is basically furloughed….. no federal spaces open, no federal court cases happening, passports, drivers licenses ect Those who are considered essential still have to work, but don’t get paid until everything is settled…. Soldiers, veterans, air traffic controllers, ect ect Imagine living paycheque to paycheque… and then being told.. nope nothing! With mortgages and car payments and various insurances and general living expenses I'll ask again.. Wasn't this their plan? No…. Big difference between “finding government efficiency “ and “not paying anyone” " It's still bidens presidential term so he's in charge If trump was in charge and there was a govt shutdown you'd blame him Bidens in charge and you want to blame... trump You're like a broken record, it's pathetic | |||
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"disaster averted when the republicans in both the house and the senate told dumbass donny and president musk to stick their juevenile demands up their arse. "The bill was changed before being passed, so clearly this statement is incorrect You're another one I'm sure you stub your toe and blame trump How sad | |||
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"disaster averted when the republicans in both the house and the senate told dumbass donny and president musk to stick their juevenile demands up their arse.
The bill was changed before being passed, so clearly this statement is incorrect
You're another one
I'm sure you stub your toe and blame trump
How sad"oh look ... my brynteg bully is stalking me again | |||
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"disaster averted when the republicans in both the house and the senate told dumbass donny and president musk to stick their juevenile demands up their arse.
The bill was changed before being passed, so clearly this statement is incorrect
You're another one
I'm sure you stub your toe and blame trump
How sad"Some of the extra spending was taken out… like the money that was suppose to be going to paediatric cancer research … so if you want to call that a win … then… yey!!!! I suppose? The main thing trump and musk demanded which was the debt ceiling removed, which caused a lot of the fuss in the first place, was also taken out of this bill And it went through on a bipartisan basis with more democratic votes than republican because roughly the same 40 republicans who didn’t vote for the trump musk amended bill didn’t vote for this one either! It was basically the same CR that was agreed originally.. roll on the next budget fight in march!!! | |||
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"Why have they 'put their foot in their mouths'. Wasn't this there plan? Otherwise, what's the point in DOGE? Because when we say… no federal employees get paid, it means no federal employees gets paid!!! Anyone not considered “essential” is basically furloughed….. no federal spaces open, no federal court cases happening, passports, drivers licenses ect Those who are considered essential still have to work, but don’t get paid until everything is settled…. Soldiers, veterans, air traffic controllers, ect ect Imagine living paycheque to paycheque… and then being told.. nope nothing! With mortgages and car payments and various insurances and general living expenses I'll ask again.. Wasn't this their plan? No…. Big difference between “finding government efficiency “ and “not paying anyone” It's still bidens presidential term so he's in charge If trump was in charge and there was a govt shutdown you'd blame him Bidens in charge and you want to blame... trump You're like a broken record, it's pathetic " So since it passed, my Welsh friends, using your logic … does this then make it a Biden win??? I was just blaming the party who now have not been able to come up with one budget bill in the last 2 years, even though they have been in the majority of the place that writes the budget bill!!! | |||
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"Why have they 'put their foot in their mouths'. Wasn't this there plan? Otherwise, what's the point in DOGE? Because when we say… no federal employees get paid, it means no federal employees gets paid!!! Anyone not considered “essential” is basically furloughed….. no federal spaces open, no federal court cases happening, passports, drivers licenses ect Those who are considered essential still have to work, but don’t get paid until everything is settled…. Soldiers, veterans, air traffic controllers, ect ect Imagine living paycheque to paycheque… and then being told.. nope nothing! With mortgages and car payments and various insurances and general living expenses I'll ask again.. Wasn't this their plan? No…. Big difference between “finding government efficiency “ and “not paying anyone” It's still bidens presidential term so he's in charge If trump was in charge and there was a govt shutdown you'd blame him Bidens in charge and you want to blame... trump You're like a broken record, it's pathetic So since it passed, my Welsh friends, using your logic … does this then make it a Biden win??? I was just blaming the party who now have not been able to come up with one budget bill in the last 2 years, even though they have been in the majority of the place that writes the budget bill!!! " twas what i said all along .... the brynteg beardy wierdy thought different for some reason but i prefer sticking to the facts | |||
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"disaster averted when the republicans in both the house and the senate told dumbass donny and president musk to stick their juevenile demands up their arse.
The bill was changed before being passed, so clearly this statement is incorrect
You're another one
I'm sure you stub your toe and blame trump
How sad
Some of the extra spending was taken out… like the money that was suppose to be going to paediatric cancer research … so if you want to call that a win … then… yey!!!! I suppose?
The main thing trump and musk demanded which was the debt ceiling removed, which caused a lot of the fuss in the first place, was also taken out of this bill
And it went through on a bipartisan basis with more democratic votes than republican because roughly the same 40 republicans who didn’t vote for the trump musk amended bill didn’t vote for this one either!
It was basically the same CR that was agreed originally.. roll on the next budget fight in march!!!
"so it passed just like I thought it would lol | |||
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"It was basically the same CR that was agreed originally.. roll on the next budget fight in march!!! so it passed just like I thought it would lol" This might be last CR for a while… if the republicans can’t pass a budget holding all 3 branches of government, they will have no one else to blame | |||
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