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"I'd say you crack up all the lads down the pub every time you say liebour, hilarious!" have you been rolling around on the barber floor? | |||
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"Why some of you folks voted for Keir Starmer the Farmer Harmer I will never know but to those who don't like him please sign the petition for another election. Obviously I'm not saying it's likely to happen anytime soon but the more signatures we can get I think at some point it might have to be put into consideration to show how much people are disgruntled with this government." Same with those who voted to leave but that's democracy for you.. Until such time, as it will be with the next GE one has to suck it up.. | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one "What was your expectation? I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised. | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one
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I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised. "By your own words, you thought they would be less shit! I was of the opinion that the Tories were stale, had a sense of entitlement and they needed a period in opposition to get rid of the dead wood and buck their ideas up. I was prepared to give Labour a chance because they were the only alternative to the Tories but FFS they're even bloody worse thus far! They are two cheeks of the same arse. | |||
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I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised. "Then beat you feel stupid now for voting for Liebour, 2 tone  | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one
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I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised.
By your own words, you thought they would be less shit! I was of the opinion that the Tories were stale, had a sense of entitlement and they needed a period in opposition to get rid of the dead wood and buck their ideas up. I was prepared to give Labour a chance because they were the only alternative to the Tories but FFS they're even bloody worse thus far! They are two cheeks of the same arse."Saying they're worse than the Tories is just ridiculous. Simply not a reflection on reality. | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one
What was your expectation?
I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised.
Then beat you feel stupid now for voting for Liebour, 2 tone "I didn't vote for them. They're performing about as expected. What I didn't expect was the media who gave the Tories and easy ride, go absolutely ape shit when Starmer turned on the Christmas lights, or had a cup of tea etc . | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one
What was your expectation?
I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised.
Then beat you feel stupid now for voting for Liebour, 2 tone
I didn't vote for them. They're performing about as expected.
What I didn't expect was the media who gave the Tories and easy ride, go absolutely ape shit when Starmer turned on the Christmas lights, or had a cup of tea etc ."Oh yes you did | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one
What was your expectation?
I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised.
Then beat you feel stupid now for voting for Liebour, 2 tone
I didn't vote for them. They're performing about as expected.
What I didn't expect was the media who gave the Tories and easy ride, go absolutely ape shit when Starmer turned on the Christmas lights, or had a cup of tea etc .
Oh yes you did "I didn't, I mean we know the media represents the interests of the corporations that fund it, and the interests of the rich owners, but I didn't expect them to cause so much pandemonium and panic over ads for breakfast cereals being on later in the day, or Starmer turning on Christmas lights. | |||
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"This is what I warned people about Labour, yes the Tories were bad and needed to be voted out but I said Labour will be worse why I didn't want them voted in and I can happily say I was right" I'm beginning to think that SKS heard that his party were expected to be less shit than the Tories and took it as a challenge to prove those people wrong. | |||
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"Why some of you folks voted for Keir Starmer the Farmer Harmer I will never know but to those who don't like him please sign the petition for another election. Obviously I'm not saying it's likely to happen anytime soon but the more signatures we can get I think at some point it might have to be put into consideration to show how much people are disgruntled with this government." In this country we have two generations of people, the majority of whom are now resigned to never owning their own home and who can’t afford to have children and maintain the population growth required to sustain the country. Meanwhile, millionnaire farmers are moaning (and you are in sympathy with them) because they are now required to pay half of the IHT that any other wealthy person would pay at three times the threshold. Ordinary millionaires and their families use whole of life insurance policies to cover their IHT liabilities and that is exactly what Millionnaire farmers did before their exemption first came in. The only people disgruntled with the government are the agitators and disrupters who make their living out of keeping the hard of thinking angry about something. As for you pasting the same message on different threads “advising” people to sign a petition that hasn’t even got as many signatures as people who voted Reform?… Give us a break. Most of us are just happy that 14 years of noisy, wasteful and divisive politics is over. | |||
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"I was lucky enough to live through the 1978 winter of discontent, it was brutal. I know how a Labour government can damage the country, people have short memories. Yes Tories are not perfect and lost direction over the years also too long in power isn't a good thing. So who and what is the answer? A control committee, referee of whoever is in the government. They ultimately say yay or nay over the decisions proposed to stop them fucking everyones lives up. Especially when it is an issue regarding _anifestos. " What about the Blair/Brown era when GDP per capita had never been higher (and still isn’t now the last time that I looked). We were richer as a nation under Blair/Brown than at any other time and for most of Blair’s years the country was running on almost balanced books - some years actually in credit, rather than the consistent deficit since 2019 and a tripling of the national debt from 2010 to July 2024. | |||
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"Why some of you folks voted for Keir Starmer the Farmer Harmer I will never know but to those who don't like him please sign the petition for another election. Obviously I'm not saying it's likely to happen anytime soon but the more signatures we can get I think at some point it might have to be put into consideration to show how much people are disgruntled with this government. In this country we have two generations of people, the majority of whom are now resigned to never owning their own home and who can’t afford to have children and maintain the population growth required to sustain the country. Meanwhile, millionnaire farmers are moaning (and you are in sympathy with them) because they are now required to pay half of the IHT that any other wealthy person would pay at three times the threshold. Ordinary millionaires and their families use whole of life insurance policies to cover their IHT liabilities and that is exactly what Millionnaire farmers did before their exemption first came in. The only people disgruntled with the government are the agitators and disrupters who make their living out of keeping the hard of thinking angry about something. As for you pasting the same message on different threads “advising” people to sign a petition that hasn’t even got as many signatures as people who voted Reform?… Give us a break. Most of us are just happy that 14 years of noisy, wasteful and divisive politics is over." not true most of us are not happy and that does not make us hard of thinking either lol | |||
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"Why some of you folks voted for Keir Starmer the Farmer Harmer I will never know but to those who don't like him please sign the petition for another election. Obviously I'm not saying it's likely to happen anytime soon but the more signatures we can get I think at some point it might have to be put into consideration to show how much people are disgruntled with this government. In this country we have two generations of people, the majority of whom are now resigned to never owning their own home and who can’t afford to have children and maintain the population growth required to sustain the country. Meanwhile, millionnaire farmers are moaning (and you are in sympathy with them) because they are now required to pay half of the IHT that any other wealthy person would pay at three times the threshold. Ordinary millionaires and their families use whole of life insurance policies to cover their IHT liabilities and that is exactly what Millionnaire farmers did before their exemption first came in. The only people disgruntled with the government are the agitators and disrupters who make their living out of keeping the hard of thinking angry about something. As for you pasting the same message on different threads “advising” people to sign a petition that hasn’t even got as many signatures as people who voted Reform?… Give us a break. Most of us are just happy that 14 years of noisy, wasteful and divisive politics is over." Aww bless. You believe 'noisy, wasteful and divisive' politics is over  | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one
What was your expectation?
I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised.
Then beat you feel stupid now for voting for Liebour, 2 tone
I didn't vote for them. They're performing about as expected.
What I didn't expect was the media who gave the Tories and easy ride, go absolutely ape shit when Starmer turned on the Christmas lights, or had a cup of tea etc .
Oh yes you did
I didn't, I mean we know the media represents the interests of the corporations that fund it, and the interests of the rich owners, but I didn't expect them to cause so much pandemonium and panic over ads for breakfast cereals being on later in the day, or Starmer turning on Christmas lights. ""It's not what you know, it's who you know", still, even at that level, is fairly consistent. | |||
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" The only people disgruntled with the government are the agitators and disrupters who make their living out of keeping the hard of thinking angry about something. " Have you been in a coma the last few months? | |||
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" The only people disgruntled with the government are the agitators and disrupters who make their living out of keeping the hard of thinking angry about something. Have you been in a coma the last few months?" Junior doctors strike ended Rail strikes ended Farage riots dealt with swiftly Rwanda scheme scrapped Repatriation flights of failed asylum seekers at highest level in a decade Asylum hotels closing at highest rate in a decade GB Energy (public owned) set up - no more selling energy to the highest bidder Railways coming back into public ownership Govt borrowing coming down Govt debt starting to reduce I couldn’t give a shit about farmers, they are going to have to use life insurance to plan for IHT now just like all other wealthy people. Means testing the winter fuel allowance (£200) is fine with me considering that pensions have increased and energy costs came down from the highs of 2022. | |||
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"Farage riots wow keep it up fella yr on a roll don’t give a fuck about farmer pensioners who else don’t you give a fuck about you sound like a very nice none judgmental guy lol" Are you not being ironic? | |||
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"Farage riots wow keep it up fella yr on a roll don’t give a fuck about farmer pensioners who else don’t you give a fuck about you sound like a very nice none judgmental guy lol Are you not being ironic? " no I’m not do you think the riots where farage riots not anything to do with the Southport terrorist ? | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one
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I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised. "Your claim that they are less shit and less self serving seems deliriously optimistic They are just as shit and just as self serving We used to be fucked in Blue. Now we're fucked in Red (though as a Welsh boy we've been fucked in Red for years) | |||
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" The only people disgruntled with the government are the agitators and disrupters who make their living out of keeping the hard of thinking angry about something. Have you been in a coma the last few months? Junior doctors strike ended Rail strikes ended Farage riots dealt with swiftly Rwanda scheme scrapped Repatriation flights of failed asylum seekers at highest level in a decade Asylum hotels closing at highest rate in a decade GB Energy (public owned) set up - no more selling energy to the highest bidder Railways coming back into public ownership Govt borrowing coming down Govt debt starting to reduce I couldn’t give a shit about farmers, they are going to have to use life insurance to plan for IHT now just like all other wealthy people. Means testing the winter fuel allowance (£200) is fine with me considering that pensions have increased and energy costs came down from the highs of 2022." You see a win in paying out over the top pay awards with no negotiation, that has left us open to further disruption and no improvements to working practices or services? Whilst also being happy that the government are taking WFA off of pensioners who are 1p over the threshold, and their own assessment tells them pensioners will die from the removal of WFA.. GB energy has not produced anything other than debt to date, and will not provide anywhere near the savings it will cost to start it up and maintain it. The railways and labour, again have proved their inability to do the right thing in negotiation of working practices, yet paid them exactly what they want. Scrapping Rwanda and shouting about the number of flights leaving is pretty much a mirror image of the tories, the numbers of illegal entries are up, with no strategy to control. Government borrowing is up as is debt, where are you getting your figures from? Immigration hotels under labour 7 closed and 14 opened, an increase of 7. It was the tories in March who pledged to close them... I will leave you to celebrate the tax increases on working farmers. | |||
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"Farage riots wow keep it up fella yr on a roll don’t give a fuck about farmer pensioners who else don’t you give a fuck about you sound like a very nice none judgmental guy lol Are you not being ironic? no I’m not do you think the riots where farage riots not anything to do with the Southport terrorist ?" My question was about the irony of you judgmentally calling someone out (again with that poster) for being judgemental.. Whilst I wouldn't use that phrase about him it's fact that him and others agitated to stir up the mob at a time when it wasn't helpful to the greater communities and the police trying to do an extremely important and difficult job for us all.. a so called responsible person standing for public office might have shown a bit of common sense.. | |||
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"Farage riots wow keep it up fella yr on a roll don’t give a fuck about farmer pensioners who else don’t you give a fuck about you sound like a very nice none judgmental guy lol Are you not being ironic? no I’m not do you think the riots where farage riots not anything to do with the Southport terrorist ?" The riots had nothing to do with him, at the time they kicked off it wasn't known what he had been up to.. It was the mob that chose to riot.. | |||
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" The only people disgruntled with the government are the agitators and disrupters who make their living out of keeping the hard of thinking angry about something. Have you been in a coma the last few months? Junior doctors strike ended Rail strikes ended Farage riots dealt with swiftly Rwanda scheme scrapped Repatriation flights of failed asylum seekers at highest level in a decade Asylum hotels closing at highest rate in a decade GB Energy (public owned) set up - no more selling energy to the highest bidder Railways coming back into public ownership Govt borrowing coming down Govt debt starting to reduce I couldn’t give a shit about farmers, they are going to have to use life insurance to plan for IHT now just like all other wealthy people. Means testing the winter fuel allowance (£200) is fine with me considering that pensions have increased and energy costs came down from the highs of 2022. You see a win in paying out over the top pay awards with no negotiation, that has left us open to further disruption and no improvements to working practices or services? Whilst also being happy that the government are taking WFA off of pensioners who are 1p over the threshold, and their own assessment tells them pensioners will die from the removal of WFA.. GB energy has not produced anything other than debt to date, and will not provide anywhere near the savings it will cost to start it up and maintain it. The railways and labour, again have proved their inability to do the right thing in negotiation of working practices, yet paid them exactly what they want. Scrapping Rwanda and shouting about the number of flights leaving is pretty much a mirror image of the tories, the numbers of illegal entries are up, with no strategy to control. Government borrowing is up as is debt, where are you getting your figures from? Immigration hotels under labour 7 closed and 14 opened, an increase of 7. It was the tories in March who pledged to close them... I will leave you to celebrate the tax increases on working farmers. " You can add to that the train strikes are not ended. Avanti are striking new years eve and the weekly in the new year. Also growth forecast has been downgraded to zero after inheriting one of the fastest growing economies in the G7. | |||
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I'll tell anyone I've usually voted in a GE for a Labour MP, bar a couple of times the candidate really annoyed me (regarding brexit another bone of contention), I care more about who the local rep is, not their party clout.
As people have pointed out, the same things people moaning about the previous 14 years are happening now, so does that not tell you it doesn't matter who you vote (colour wise)? they're all the same and will ALWAYS let you down in some way. | |||
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"Quite weird how evangelical people are about politics. It reminds me of children fighting their siblings like cat and dog, never seeing that it's mostly counterproductive
I'll tell anyone I've usually voted in a GE for a Labour MP, bar a couple of times the candidate really annoyed me (regarding brexit another bone of contention), I care more about who the local rep is, not their party clout.
As people have pointed out, the same things people moaning about the previous 14 years are happening now, so does that not tell you it doesn't matter who you vote (colour wise)? they're all the same and will ALWAYS let you down in some way."it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform | |||
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"it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform " not sure how your suggestion of voting for a fascist party will improve anyones life | |||
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"it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform not sure how your suggestion of voting for a fascist party will improve anyones life" you sound like the dems in America and how wrong where they if you can see how fast reform are growing yr truely blind lol | |||
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"it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform not sure how your suggestion of voting for a fascist party will improve anyones lifeyou sound like the dems in America and how wrong where they if you can see how fast reform are growing yr truely blind lol" still don't see how your suggestion of voting for nutty nige and his fascist party plc will improve anyones life .... his dictatorship will end badly like all the other fascist dictatorships | |||
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"it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform not sure how your suggestion of voting for a fascist party will improve anyones lifeyou sound like the dems in America and how wrong where they if you can see how fast reform are growing yr truely blind lol still don't see how your suggestion of voting for nutty nige and his fascist party plc will improve anyones life .... his dictatorship will end badly like all the other fascist dictatorships "Throwing around words like “fascist” and “dictatorship” is a bit much, don’t you think? Reform and Farage are advocating for policies that prioritise national interests, accountability, and democratic change. Are their polices sound who knows, however we know labour policies have been flawed, reversed and thrown out with the bath water. Labelling people you disagree with in such extreme terms doesn’t help anyone, as mentioned by a previous poster, who I agree with, the colour of the party is irrelevant, they are delivering the same mess. Farage has track record of success, whether you like to admit it or not. Just for the record, I'm not a Reform voter. | |||
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"it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform not sure how your suggestion of voting for a fascist party will improve anyones life" This calling anyone who is even the slightest bit right of centre a Fascist will surely backfire one day. It's like the story of the boy who cried wolf. When the REAL Fascists turn up, no-one will notice. | |||
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"it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform not sure how your suggestion of voting for a fascist party will improve anyones life This calling anyone who is even the slightest bit right of centre a Fascist will surely backfire one day. It's like the story of the boy who cried wolf. When the REAL Fascists turn up, no-one will notice. " it backfired in America and iv got a feeling it will here the left don’t learn they just insult | |||
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"it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform not sure how your suggestion of voting for a fascist party will improve anyones lifeyou sound like the dems in America and how wrong where they if you can see how fast reform are growing yr truely blind lol still don't see how your suggestion of voting for nutty nige and his fascist party plc will improve anyones life .... his dictatorship will end badly like all the other fascist dictatorships
Throwing around words like “fascist” and “dictatorship” is a bit much, don’t you think? Reform and Farage are advocating for policies that prioritise national interests, accountability, and democratic change. Are their polices sound who knows, however we know labour policies have been flawed, reversed and thrown out with the bath water.
Labelling people you disagree with in such extreme terms doesn’t help anyone, as mentioned by a previous poster, who I agree with, the colour of the party is irrelevant, they are delivering the same mess. Farage has track record of success, whether you like to admit it or not.
Just for the record, I'm not a Reform voter."Prior to the last election both the OBR and IFS criticised the economic policies of the labour and conservative parties stating their figures didn’t add up, but also stated the policies of Reform were even worse. | |||
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"it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform not sure how your suggestion of voting for a fascist party will improve anyones lifeyou sound like the dems in America and how wrong where they if you can see how fast reform are growing yr truely blind lol" Well why did only 14% of voters think so at the last GE? Amongst that, reform garnered more of their votes from older people 50+ average age being 56 But most of all, you are wild of the mark trying to compare the UK with the US. | |||
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"it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform not sure how your suggestion of voting for a fascist party will improve anyones lifeyou sound like the dems in America and how wrong where they if you can see how fast reform are growing yr truely blind lol still don't see how your suggestion of voting for nutty nige and his fascist party plc will improve anyones life .... his dictatorship will end badly like all the other fascist dictatorships
Throwing around words like “fascist” and “dictatorship” is a bit much, don’t you think? Reform and Farage are advocating for policies that prioritise national interests, accountability, and democratic change. Are their polices sound who knows, however we know labour policies have been flawed, reversed and thrown out with the bath water.
Labelling people you disagree with in such extreme terms doesn’t help anyone, as mentioned by a previous poster, who I agree with, the colour of the party is irrelevant, they are delivering the same mess. Farage has track record of success, whether you like to admit it or not.
Just for the record, I'm not a Reform voter."success in the area voter popularity for a fascist party is neither here nor there .... CEO nutty nige's party is still a fascist party wether you care to face the truth or not .... i just don't see how his brand of fascism will improve anybodys life | |||
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"it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform not sure how your suggestion of voting for a fascist party will improve anyones lifeyou sound like the dems in America and how wrong where they if you can see how fast reform are growing yr truely blind lol still don't see how your suggestion of voting for nutty nige and his fascist party plc will improve anyones life .... his dictatorship will end badly like all the other fascist dictatorships "If you consider the Reform party to be fascist, how do you view the people that vote for it? Are they also fascists | |||
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"Why some of you folks voted for Keir Starmer the Farmer Harmer I will never know but to those who don't like him please sign the petition for another election. Obviously I'm not saying it's likely to happen anytime soon but the more signatures we can get I think at some point it might have to be put into consideration to show how much people are disgruntled with this government. In this country we have two generations of people, the majority of whom are now resigned to never owning their own home and who can’t afford to have children and maintain the population growth required to sustain the country. Meanwhile, millionnaire farmers are moaning (and you are in sympathy with them) because they are now required to pay half of the IHT that any other wealthy person would pay at three times the threshold. Ordinary millionaires and their families use whole of life insurance policies to cover their IHT liabilities and that is exactly what Millionnaire farmers did before their exemption first came in. The only people disgruntled with the government are the agitators and disrupters who make their living out of keeping the hard of thinking angry about something. As for you pasting the same message on different threads “advising” people to sign a petition that hasn’t even got as many signatures as people who voted Reform?… Give us a break. Most of us are just happy that 14 years of noisy, wasteful and divisive politics is over." Does a £750,000 fully paid home and a £650,000 pension make me a Millionaire! I bloody wish it did as living off a pension ain't easy. | |||
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"it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform not sure how your suggestion of voting for a fascist party will improve anyones lifeyou sound like the dems in America and how wrong where they if you can see how fast reform are growing yr truely blind lol still don't see how your suggestion of voting for nutty nige and his fascist party plc will improve anyones life .... his dictatorship will end badly like all the other fascist dictatorships
If you consider the Reform party to be fascist, how do you view the people that vote for it? Are they also fascists "I vote Reform, I am also a Reform member and will continue to vote Reform. I am no fascist, and anyone who calls me one, please ensure you do it face to face. If not, then the word for that person is coward. | |||
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"it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform not sure how your suggestion of voting for a fascist party will improve anyones lifeyou sound like the dems in America and how wrong where they if you can see how fast reform are growing yr truely blind lol still don't see how your suggestion of voting for nutty nige and his fascist party plc will improve anyones life .... his dictatorship will end badly like all the other fascist dictatorships
Throwing around words like “fascist” and “dictatorship” is a bit much, don’t you think? Reform and Farage are advocating for policies that prioritise national interests, accountability, and democratic change. Are their polices sound who knows, however we know labour policies have been flawed, reversed and thrown out with the bath water.
Labelling people you disagree with in such extreme terms doesn’t help anyone, as mentioned by a previous poster, who I agree with, the colour of the party is irrelevant, they are delivering the same mess. Farage has track record of success, whether you like to admit it or not.
Just for the record, I'm not a Reform voter.
success in the area voter popularity for a fascist party is neither here nor there .... CEO nutty nige's party is still a fascist party wether you care to face the truth or not .... i just don't see how his brand of fascism will improve anybodys life "Repeating the same thing over and over again, doesn't make it real. | |||
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". Farage has track record of success, whether you like to admit it or not. Success for who? Himself?" As I said, you might like the fact he has been successful but he has. | |||
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"it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform not sure how your suggestion of voting for a fascist party will improve anyones lifeyou sound like the dems in America and how wrong where they if you can see how fast reform are growing yr truely blind lol still don't see how your suggestion of voting for nutty nige and his fascist party plc will improve anyones life .... his dictatorship will end badly like all the other fascist dictatorships
If you consider the Reform party to be fascist, how do you view the people that vote for it? Are they also fascists "Hitler was voted into power by ordinary German people, they were not fascists but they were hoodwinked into thinking that his populist rhetoric would provide the change that Germany needed after a decade and more of soaring inflation, mass unemployment and a never ending recession. His message was simple enough for ordinary people to understand because he rejected the complexities of how the world really was. So fascism does not arrive with violence, it arrives first at the ballot box when people refuse to accept the complexities of real world problems and instead believe that there are simple solutions that can be enacted to fix everything. The reason that Farage is often referred to as a “poundshop” fascist is because he (and Reform) assure their followers that they have very simple solutions and instead of looking into what is being promised - people not only believe him - but also repeat the same nonsense. Look at Reform’s contract - none of their spending promises can reasonably be paid for and even if we did leave the ECHR, turning boats back to France is against international law and would risk a stand off (at best) with our closest European neighbours all because it seems easier to be tough than to deal with an international problem - internationally. I don’t care that Reform supporters get upset at what people (who can see right through Farage, Tice and the other millionaires and billionaires) say about them. We are all grown ups and if you really are not capable of critically appraising the Reform contract just because you want to stick it to the foreigners… | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one
What was your expectation?
I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised.
Your claim that they are less shit and less self serving seems deliriously optimistic
They are just as shit and just as self serving
We used to be fucked in Blue. Now we're fucked in Red (though as a Welsh boy we've been fucked in Red for years)"I disagree, until we see billions handed to their pals for new start up companies for dodgy equipment that can't get used. Then they're not even in the same league. | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one
What was your expectation?
I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised.
Your claim that they are less shit and less self serving seems deliriously optimistic
They are just as shit and just as self serving
We used to be fucked in Blue. Now we're fucked in Red (though as a Welsh boy we've been fucked in Red for years)
I disagree, until we see billions handed to their pals for new start up companies for dodgy equipment that can't get used. Then they're not even in the same league. "Hardly a surprise Johnny | |||
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"the best bit about labour .... watching the righties losing their shit "It's kinda weird though. People who were cool with austerity, cool with the government attacking homeless people, poor people, care workers, nurses, people who eat tofu (all of which are people they're supposed to be representing). Are losing their shit over Christmas lights being turned on and porridge ads being on later at night. | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one
What was your expectation?
I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised.
Your claim that they are less shit and less self serving seems deliriously optimistic
They are just as shit and just as self serving
We used to be fucked in Blue. Now we're fucked in Red (though as a Welsh boy we've been fucked in Red for years)
I disagree, until we see billions handed to their pals for new start up companies for dodgy equipment that can't get used. Then they're not even in the same league.
Hardly a surprise Johnny "What's not a suprise? | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one
What was your expectation?
I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised.
Your claim that they are less shit and less self serving seems deliriously optimistic
They are just as shit and just as self serving
We used to be fucked in Blue. Now we're fucked in Red (though as a Welsh boy we've been fucked in Red for years)
I disagree, until we see billions handed to their pals for new start up companies for dodgy equipment that can't get used. Then they're not even in the same league.
Hardly a surprise Johnny
What's not a suprise?"That your narrative is anti Tory. I don't disagree with it but then I'm unbiased and therefore critical when it's justified | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one
What was your expectation?
I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised.
Your claim that they are less shit and less self serving seems deliriously optimistic
They are just as shit and just as self serving
We used to be fucked in Blue. Now we're fucked in Red (though as a Welsh boy we've been fucked in Red for years)
I disagree, until we see billions handed to their pals for new start up companies for dodgy equipment that can't get used. Then they're not even in the same league.
Hardly a surprise Johnny
What's not a suprise?
That your narrative is anti Tory. I don't disagree with it but then I'm unbiased and therefore critical when it's justified "I agree, fact based points are "anti-tory". Good to see we agree though. | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one
What was your expectation?
I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised.
Your claim that they are less shit and less self serving seems deliriously optimistic
They are just as shit and just as self serving
We used to be fucked in Blue. Now we're fucked in Red (though as a Welsh boy we've been fucked in Red for years)
I disagree, until we see billions handed to their pals for new start up companies for dodgy equipment that can't get used. Then they're not even in the same league.
Hardly a surprise Johnny
What's not a suprise?
That your narrative is anti Tory. I don't disagree with it but then I'm unbiased and therefore critical when it's justified
I agree, fact based points are "anti-tory".
Good to see we agree though. "Yet I can't recall the last time you were critical of the labour party | |||
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"it tells us we need a huge change a total turn around from the politicians we have now and only one out there that is diffrent is reform not sure how your suggestion of voting for a fascist party will improve anyones lifeyou sound like the dems in America and how wrong where they if you can see how fast reform are growing yr truely blind lol still don't see how your suggestion of voting for nutty nige and his fascist party plc will improve anyones life .... his dictatorship will end badly like all the other fascist dictatorships
If you consider the Reform party to be fascist, how do you view the people that vote for it? Are they also fascists
Hitler was voted into power by ordinary German people, they were not fascists but they were hoodwinked into thinking that his populist rhetoric would provide the change that Germany needed after a decade and more of soaring inflation, mass unemployment and a never ending recession. His message was simple enough for ordinary people to understand because he rejected the complexities of how the world really was.
So fascism does not arrive with violence, it arrives first at the ballot box when people refuse to accept the complexities of real world problems and instead believe that there are simple solutions that can be enacted to fix everything.
The reason that Farage is often referred to as a “poundshop” fascist is because he (and Reform) assure their followers that they have very simple solutions and instead of looking into what is being promised - people not only believe him - but also repeat the same nonsense.
Look at Reform’s contract - none of their spending promises can reasonably be paid for and even if we did leave the ECHR, turning boats back to France is against international law and would risk a stand off (at best) with our closest European neighbours all because it seems easier to be tough than to deal with an international problem - internationally.
I don’t care that Reform supporters get upset at what people (who can see right through Farage, Tice and the other millionaires and billionaires) say about them. We are all grown ups and if you really are not capable of critically appraising the Reform contract just because you want to stick it to the foreigners… "Was that a yes or a no. Who says I want to stick it to foreigners | |||
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". Farage has track record of success, whether you like to admit it or not. Success for who? Himself? As I said, you might like the fact he has been successful but he has. " Successful for who though? Nigel Farage has been Successful for Nigel Farage. No one else. | |||
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"For people who voted Labour to punish the Tories, well done who have punished ourselves and everyone else. Nice one
What was your expectation?
I thought they would be less shit and less self serving than the Tories, offering no real change. This is exactly what we've got. Not sure why anyone is surprised.
Your claim that they are less shit and less self serving seems deliriously optimistic
They are just as shit and just as self serving
We used to be fucked in Blue. Now we're fucked in Red (though as a Welsh boy we've been fucked in Red for years)
I disagree, until we see billions handed to their pals for new start up companies for dodgy equipment that can't get used. Then they're not even in the same league.
Hardly a surprise Johnny
What's not a suprise?
That your narrative is anti Tory. I don't disagree with it but then I'm unbiased and therefore critical when it's justified
I agree, fact based points are "anti-tory".
Good to see we agree though.
Yet I can't recall the last time you were critical of the labour party "I have been many times. But on real issues rather than GBNews issues like turning on Xmas lights or porridge ads being on later in the day. | |||
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". Farage has track record of success, whether you like to admit it or not. Success for who? Himself? As I said, you might like the fact he has been successful but he has. Successful for who though? Nigel Farage has been Successful for Nigel Farage. No one else. " Your view is because you don't consider the changes he has contributed and a driver of, that changed the country are not too your liking. It was for millions of others though. | |||
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"Farage riots wow keep it up fella yr on a roll don’t give a fuck about farmer pensioners who else don’t you give a fuck about you sound like a very nice none judgmental guy lol Are you not being ironic? " Those ‘riots’ were nothing to do with Nigel, except for the fact that some of those involved will probably vote Reform. One thing for certain, is that non of those charged with these offences will ever be allowed to join the party. Just like anyone who was ever involved with the BNP etc. | |||
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"Farage riots wow keep it up fella yr on a roll don’t give a fuck about farmer pensioners who else don’t you give a fuck about you sound like a very nice none judgmental guy lol Are you not being ironic? Those ‘riots’ were nothing to do with Nigel, except for the fact that some of those involved will probably vote Reform. One thing for certain, is that non of those charged with these offences will ever be allowed to join the party. Just like anyone who was ever involved with the BNP etc." those riots were because of a lovely welsh choir boy islam extreme terrorist killer and how he were protected an covered up and some of the british public have had enough of feeling a minority | |||
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"Farage riots wow keep it up fella yr on a roll don’t give a fuck about farmer pensioners who else don’t you give a fuck about you sound like a very nice none judgmental guy lol Are you not being ironic? Those ‘riots’ were nothing to do with Nigel, except for the fact that some of those involved will probably vote Reform. One thing for certain, is that non of those charged with these offences will ever be allowed to join the party. Just like anyone who was ever involved with the BNP etc.those riots were because of a lovely welsh choir boy islam extreme terrorist killer and how he were protected an covered up and some of the british public have had enough of feeling a minority " The race-hate riots happened prior to any public knowledge about the identity of the killer. | |||
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"Farage riots wow keep it up fella yr on a roll don’t give a fuck about farmer pensioners who else don’t you give a fuck about you sound like a very nice none judgmental guy lol Are you not being ironic? Those ‘riots’ were nothing to do with Nigel, except for the fact that some of those involved will probably vote Reform. One thing for certain, is that non of those charged with these offences will ever be allowed to join the party. Just like anyone who was ever involved with the BNP etc." Really? There's a gnats pube between BNP & Reform. You stated before that you have a problem with non-white people in British cities. | |||
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"Farage riots wow keep it up fella yr on a roll don’t give a fuck about farmer pensioners who else don’t you give a fuck about you sound like a very nice none judgmental guy lol Are you not being ironic? Those ‘riots’ were nothing to do with Nigel, except for the fact that some of those involved will probably vote Reform. One thing for certain, is that non of those charged with these offences will ever be allowed to join the party. Just like anyone who was ever involved with the BNP etc.those riots were because of a lovely welsh choir boy islam extreme terrorist killer and how he were protected an covered up and some of the british public have had enough of feeling a minority The race-hate riots happened prior to any public knowledge about the identity of the killer." really it dosent take sherlock Holmes to figure out what type of person performed this attack | |||
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"Farage riots wow keep it up fella yr on a roll don’t give a fuck about farmer pensioners who else don’t you give a fuck about you sound like a very nice none judgmental guy lol Are you not being ironic? Those ‘riots’ were nothing to do with Nigel, except for the fact that some of those involved will probably vote Reform. One thing for certain, is that non of those charged with these offences will ever be allowed to join the party. Just like anyone who was ever involved with the BNP etc.those riots were because of a lovely welsh choir boy islam extreme terrorist killer and how he were protected an covered up and some of the british public have had enough of feeling a minority The race-hate riots happened prior to any public knowledge about the identity of the killer.really it dosent take sherlock Holmes to figure out what type of person performed this attack" and sure the very first incident started with a knife weilding man visiting the vigil then running into the mosque after been confronted?? | |||
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