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"No.. People are chatting about all sorts of stuff in the lounge.. I wasnt after a debate I'm just asking normal people what they think.. If you don't like the subject don't read it.. Are you Keir starmer.. Hahaah" But it's a political based topic, heavily political based in fact. It will be moved there shortly by mods regardless. | |||
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"No.. People are chatting about all sorts of stuff in the lounge.. I wasnt after a debate I'm just asking normal people what they think.. If you don't like the subject don't read it.. Are you Keir starmer.. Hahaah" But but, you are talking about policies and politics so you will be going to the politic section  | |||
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" My main concern as my mums 88.. Is the absolutely disgusting way the oaps constantly get spun over as if it wasnt for there generations paying there stamp etc there wouldn't be an nhs/social help which has now become a joke for those who work watching there hard earnt cash being given away to all the lazy fucks who toss it off all week laughing there heads off getting more money than us mugs who goto work.. But labour want to give them all houses and more money.." So your rant is aimed at society who don't do their bit, rather than the Gov?? What would you like them to do - shoot anyone who can't /refuses to work?? | |||
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" So your rant is aimed at society who don't do their bit, rather than the Gov?? What would you like them to do - shoot anyone who can't /refuses to work?? " Make the unemployed fill potholes ? | |||
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" My main concern as my mums 88.. Is the absolutely disgusting way the oaps constantly get spun over " I assume your mum gets a state pension plus free prescriptions and hearing aids, free GP and hospital consultations plus treatment, a free bus pass ... | |||
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" My main concern as my mums 88.. Is the absolutely disgusting way the oaps constantly get spun over I assume your mum gets a state pension plus free prescriptions and hearing aids, free GP and hospital consultations plus treatment, a free bus pass ..." I am not commenting on the OP as I don't agree with pitting one set of people against the other but that's a bit misleading, we all get free healthcare with a GP. A pensioner has paid into the system for many years before they can get a pension so a perk of free presciptions and bus pass is not the gotcha you may think it is. | |||
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" My main concern as my mums 88.. Is the absolutely disgusting way the oaps constantly get spun over I assume your mum gets a state pension plus free prescriptions and hearing aids, free GP and hospital consultations plus treatment, a free bus pass ... I am not commenting on the OP as I don't agree with pitting one set of people against the other but that's a bit misleading, we all get free healthcare with a GP. A pensioner has paid into the system for many years before they can get a pension so a perk of free presciptions and bus pass is not the gotcha you may think it is. " My state pension,free presciptions and free bus pass are paid for by the current working tax payers. | |||
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"Hi all.. Don't jump down my throat and say I'm from the south so I'm conservative etc as I've never voted for any of these clowns.. To the point..... Is it just me who is seriously concerned with the run away hair brain ideas that daily come out of our so called leaders!? My main concern as my mums 88.. Is the absolutely disgusting way the oaps constantly get spun over as if it wasnt for there generations paying there stamp etc there wouldn't be an nhs/social help which has now become a joke for those who work watching there hard earnt cash being given away to all the lazy fucks who toss it off all week laughing there heads off getting more money than us mugs who goto work.. But labour want to give them all houses and more money.. Build on our ancient green belts.. They don't seem to realise there fucking us all royale by taking our wages out of our pockets.. Why are they trying to change everything in one go?? They should start with fixing the roads etc.. You get my point!? I could go on forever" At this time employers are not paying wages to keep up with the cost of living, so wages are so low in some jobs the worker has to apply for housing benefit and some top up cash to just get through the month, who pays this extra cash to working people. Us through our taxes, we supplement business who are not paying their workers enough cash. There are more in work on benefits than those who do not work and claim benefits, | |||
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"I mean the whole set up is in a mess from various governments.. I tried to get a doctors appointment the other week for the 1st time in 15 yrs and couldn't believe the hassle " In which case, have you any idea who has been in power for 14 years of those 15? | |||
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" My main concern as my mums 88.. Is the absolutely disgusting way the oaps constantly get spun over I assume your mum gets a state pension plus free prescriptions and hearing aids, free GP and hospital consultations plus treatment, a free bus pass ... I am not commenting on the OP as I don't agree with pitting one set of people against the other but that's a bit misleading, we all get free healthcare with a GP. A pensioner has paid into the system for many years before they can get a pension so a perk of free presciptions and bus pass is not the gotcha you may think it is. My state pension,free presciptions and free bus pass are paid for by the current working tax payers. " You wouldn't have got that pension if you hadn't paid into the system. | |||
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"I agree good point... When I qualified as a sparks 33 yes ago I was on £400 a wk.. Couldn't spend it... Nice car.. 4 holidays a year.. Out 6 nights a wk.. Party boy.. Now if you earn a bit more on overtime or get a pay rise they just steal it back off u" Did you pay no tax back then? | |||
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" At this time employers are not paying wages to keep up with the cost of living, so wages are so low in some jobs the worker has to apply for housing benefit and some top up cash to just get through the month, who pays this extra cash to working people. Us through our taxes, we supplement business who are not paying their workers enough cash. There are more in work on benefits than those who do not work and claim benefits, " So what we need is for employers especially the big ones to pay their staff a decent wage. Then people can stop dissing people for claiming UC to top up their wages. Sounds reasonable to me  | |||
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"Fancy that, an economic model where paying the very people who do the vast majority of the work a salary that means they don't qualify for state benefits.. Madness.." You commie  | |||
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"I think both conservatives and labour have shared it for last 15/20 yrs?? Yeah I do pay tax but pretty much as a one man band sparks my expenses balance of the tax and I get a rebate later... Like alot of poor people if your tax return wasnt in when lock down happened they wouldn't help you.. I mean i got off likely as some peoples business went down the pan and they lost everything... I was just very hungry and lost my flat" No, it has been just Conservatives for the last 14 years. Labour got in this July. We all have to pay more tax if we earn more wages, that's how it works. Being poor has nothing to do with not having a tax return to give in. If you had only just started being self employed there was no way for the Gov of knowing what you earned as you had no proof, but I think they had UC that you could have claimed, obviously who knows if that was enough to live on not knowing your situation but there was help out there | |||
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"Fancy that, an economic model where paying the very people who do the vast majority of the work a salary that means they don't qualify for state benefits.. Madness.. You commie "It's radical I know.. Ironically we might need less civil servants to administer such benefits but maybe they can be moved to cut down on the asylum mess or even dare I say it..tax evasion by the higher strata of society.. | |||
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