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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Springfield

The last couple of days the UK been using gas for 70%+ of its total energy use. Wind and solar combined at 5%. And our energy prices are the world's highest.

The idea we can transition to zero carbon by 2030 is one of the most crazy ideas ever put forward by a party of Government and must be scrapped.

Let's have a realistic energy plan for the next 20-30 years involving new nuclear, new oil and gas fields, and proper investment in renewables infrastructure.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"The last couple of days the UK been using gas for 70%+ of its total energy use. Wind and solar combined at 5%. And our energy prices are the world's highest.

The idea we can transition to zero carbon by 2030 is one of the most crazy ideas ever put forward by a party of Government and must be scrapped.

Let's have a realistic energy plan for the next 20-30 years involving new nuclear, new oil and gas fields, and proper investment in renewables infrastructure."

That sounds like a plan but it won't happen, no government want to plan that far ahead.

Also if you watched Question time last night. It layed out infer stitcher building in the UK is the most expensive in the world.

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By *exy_HornyCouple
2 weeks ago

Leigh


"The last couple of days the UK been using gas for 70%+ of its total energy use. Wind and solar combined at 5%. And our energy prices are the world's highest.

The idea we can transition to zero carbon by 2030 is one of the most crazy ideas ever put forward by a party of Government and must be scrapped.

Let's have a realistic energy plan for the next 20-30 years involving new nuclear, new oil and gas fields, and proper investment in renewables infrastructure."

Won’t happen as Miliband has just given himself power to approve onshore wind farms without councils or local people having a say.

Based on the reckless solar approvals in the first few weeks in power the writing is on the wall.

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By *ellhungvweMan
2 weeks ago

Cheltenham


"The last couple of days the UK been using gas for 70%+ of its total energy use. Wind and solar combined at 5%. And our energy prices are the world's highest."

The few days before that wind was 70+% of total energy use.

I agree we need a solid base capacity of energy provision (personally I would go nuclear) but the thing that would really make a difference is a proper energy storage capability.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Springfield


"The last couple of days the UK been using gas for 70%+ of its total energy use. Wind and solar combined at 5%. And our energy prices are the world's highest.

The few days before that wind was 70+% of total energy use.

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This always comes up on these threads. Wind was 70% of electricity use, not total energy use - there's a huge difference!

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By *iman2100Man
2 weeks ago

Glasgow

Why are we bothering? Global warming is inevitable; it will not be stopped.

It's ill effects are being felt now and will only increase. What have we got left? 30,50,70 years maximum? In those decades all those people in countries where human habitation is no longer viable will try to migrate to other countries.

This will result in wars between the immigrants and residents. Humanity will kill itself off, not global warming. We should be investing in weapons and space rockets not wind farms.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
2 weeks ago

nearby


"Why are we bothering? Global warming is inevitable; it will not be stopped.

It's ill effects are being felt now and will only increase. What have we got left? 30,50,70 years maximum? In those decades all those people in countries where human habitation is no longer viable will try to migrate to other countries.

This will result in wars between the immigrants and residents. Humanity will kill itself off, not global warming. We should be investing in weapons and space rockets not wind farms. "

And 2 billion more people by 2070/80. A 25% increase.

Most of those from emerging economies aspiring to western living standards and consumerism

Add the use of carbon credits being used to obfuscate real progress on tackling this unavoidable issue

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By *iman2100Man
2 weeks ago

Glasgow


"Why are we bothering? Global warming is inevitable; it will not be stopped.

It's ill effects are being felt now and will only increase. What have we got left? 30,50,70 years maximum? In those decades all those people in countries where human habitation is no longer viable will try to migrate to other countries.

This will result in wars between the immigrants and residents. Humanity will kill itself off, not global warming. We should be investing in weapons and space rockets not wind farms.

And 2 billion more people by 2070/80. A 25% increase.

Most of those from emerging economies aspiring to western living standards and consumerism

Add the use of carbon credits being used to obfuscate real progress on tackling this unavoidable issue

"

Yes, why are we bothering?

Least we forget, if a village gets flooded out the government has to build flood prevention measures using contractors - Kerching! The houses have to be made habitable again - Kerching! The destroyed belonging need to be replaced - Kerching!

Who is losing out? Not the building and manufacturing companies. Let us not waste a good crisis.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
2 weeks ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"The last couple of days the UK been using gas for 70%+ of its total energy use. Wind and solar combined at 5%. And our energy prices are the world's highest.

The idea we can transition to zero carbon by 2030 is one of the most crazy ideas ever put forward by a party of Government and must be scrapped.

Let's have a realistic energy plan for the next 20-30 years involving new nuclear, new oil and gas fields, and proper investment in renewables infrastructure."

It won't happen.

As long as energy policy is driven by political dogma and halo polishing politicians we will all end up bankrupt and in the dark.

Idealism is fine until it hits reality head on.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Springfield


"The last couple of days the UK been using gas for 70%+ of its total energy use. Wind and solar combined at 5%. And our energy prices are the world's highest.

The idea we can transition to zero carbon by 2030 is one of the most crazy ideas ever put forward by a party of Government and must be scrapped.

Let's have a realistic energy plan for the next 20-30 years involving new nuclear, new oil and gas fields, and proper investment in renewables infrastructure.

It won't happen.

As long as energy policy is driven by political dogma and halo polishing politicians we will all end up bankrupt and in the dark.

Idealism is fine until it hits reality head on.

"

As Labour will find out at the next election.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"The last couple of days the UK been using gas for 70%+ of its total energy use. Wind and solar combined at 5%. And our energy prices are the world's highest.

The few days before that wind was 70+% of total energy use.

I agree we need a solid base capacity of energy provision (personally I would go nuclear) but the thing that would really make a difference is a proper energy storage capability. "

So what would you see as an environmental sustainability energy storage solution and how big dose it need to be to be realistic.

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"Why are we bothering? Global warming is inevitable; it will not be stopped.

It's ill effects are being felt now and will only increase. What have we got left? 30,50,70 years maximum? In those decades all those people in countries where human habitation is no longer viable will try to migrate to other countries.

This will result in wars between the immigrants and residents. Humanity will kill itself off, not global warming. We should be investing in weapons and space rockets not wind farms. "

do you really believe weve only that many years of the planet 😂 sea levels have risen about 0.03 mm over the last 50 years and it were only 40 year ago we were getting a big freeze 🤦

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By *otlovefun42Couple
2 weeks ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"The last couple of days the UK been using gas for 70%+ of its total energy use. Wind and solar combined at 5%. And our energy prices are the world's highest.

The idea we can transition to zero carbon by 2030 is one of the most crazy ideas ever put forward by a party of Government and must be scrapped.

Let's have a realistic energy plan for the next 20-30 years involving new nuclear, new oil and gas fields, and proper investment in renewables infrastructure.

It won't happen.

As long as energy policy is driven by political dogma and halo polishing politicians we will all end up bankrupt and in the dark.

Idealism is fine until it hits reality head on.

As Labour will find out at the next election."

Hopefully yes.

But that's another 4+ years away.

See my "Indian Airlines" thread for the latest climate change piss take.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
2 weeks ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Why are we bothering? Global warming is inevitable; it will not be stopped.

It's ill effects are being felt now and will only increase. What have we got left? 30,50,70 years maximum? In those decades all those people in countries where human habitation is no longer viable will try to migrate to other countries.

This will result in wars between the immigrants and residents. Humanity will kill itself off, not global warming. We should be investing in weapons and space rockets not wind farms. do you really believe weve only that many years of the planet 😂 sea levels have risen about 0.03 mm over the last 50 years and it were only 40 year ago we were getting a big freeze 🤦"

I suppose we are coming to make your mind up time.

On one hand we are being told that we're all doomed because of climate change. On the other hand we're equally doomed because it's going to be world or civil war.

We're already doomed financially, just living an illusion of wealth with borrowed money that will eventually run out.

Pick whichever you want, we're all doomed. Doomed I tell yer.

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By *ountry cowboyMan
2 weeks ago

Kinross


"Why are we bothering? Global warming is inevitable; it will not be stopped.

It's ill effects are being felt now and will only increase. What have we got left? 30,50,70 years maximum? In those decades all those people in countries where human habitation is no longer viable will try to migrate to other countries.

This will result in wars between the immigrants and residents. Humanity will kill itself off, not global warming. We should be investing in weapons and space rockets not wind farms. "

I have invested in BAE systems for past 4 years and more than doubled my investment

Investing in arms manufacture and oil is a win, win situation

The World will always need oil, it's when we run out that problems will start

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
2 weeks ago

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"Why are we bothering? Global warming is inevitable; it will not be stopped.

It's ill effects are being felt now and will only increase. What have we got left? 30,50,70 years maximum? In those decades all those people in countries where human habitation is no longer viable will try to migrate to other countries.

This will result in wars between the immigrants and residents. Humanity will kill itself off, not global warming. We should be investing in weapons and space rockets not wind farms.

I have invested in BAE systems for past 4 years and more than doubled my investment

Investing in arms manufacture and oil is a win, win situation

The World will always need oil, it's when we run out that problems will start "

It won't run out for a very long time, Technology will improve to get the deeper oil deposits and by the time oil runs out we will have moved on from using it

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Springfield

Apparently Wes Streeting thinks Millipede is a dud who'll lose Labour lots of votes. Streeting by far the best Labour Minister, Starmer should listen to him.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
2 weeks ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Apparently Wes Streeting thinks Millipede is a dud who'll lose Labour lots of votes. Streeting by far the best Labour Minister, Starmer should listen to him."

Shhhhhh. Don't give them ideas.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings

As part of Net Zero dose anyone know where solid fule fires sit.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
2 weeks ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"As part of Net Zero dose anyone know where solid fule fires sit."

Coal as a domestic fuel will soon be banned altogether. I think in many (most?) areas it already is.

Wood burners have restrictions, type of fire and water content of wood, which Labour want to tighten.

I wouldn't spend money on any kind of solid fuel fire in the UK at the moment. It could quite easily be scrap in a year or two.

Meanwhile in Spain we have little or no restrictions on wood burning (not sure about coal) and I will be lighting ours in about an hour.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
2 weeks ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"The last couple of days the UK been using gas for 70%+ of its total energy use. Wind and solar combined at 5%. And our energy prices are the world's highest.

The few days before that wind was 70+% of total energy use.

I agree we need a solid base capacity of energy provision (personally I would go nuclear) but the thing that would really make a difference is a proper energy storage capability. "

Don't confuse wind with renewables.

I think the 70% figure was for renewables which actually includes burning wood pellets.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"As part of Net Zero dose anyone know where solid fule fires sit.

Coal as a domestic fuel will soon be banned altogether. I think in many (most?) areas it already is.

Wood burners have restrictions, type of fire and water content of wood, which Labour want to tighten.

I wouldn't spend money on any kind of solid fuel fire in the UK at the moment. It could quite easily be scrap in a year or two.

Meanwhile in Spain we have little or no restrictions on wood burning (not sure about coal) and I will be lighting ours in about an hour."

Yer this is all part of the nonsense we live in at present I burn smokeless fule and some wood cut from the garden, if I am baned from burning it in the home it will go on the bonfire. Madness when I can't have a bigger gas supply to heat the houses.

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By *irralmatureMan
2 weeks ago

Wirral


"The last couple of days the UK been using gas for 70%+ of its total energy use. Wind and solar combined at 5%. And our energy prices are the world's highest.

The few days before that wind was 70+% of total energy use.

I agree we need a solid base capacity of energy provision (personally I would go nuclear) but the thing that would really make a difference is a proper energy storage capability.

Don't confuse wind with renewables.

I think the 70% figure was for renewables which actually includes burning wood pellets."

You mean Drax, who have been making false claims about their 'green' credentials for years in order to get the billions of £ in subsidies. We would have churned out less CO2 keeping Ratciffe-on-Soar running.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
7 days ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"The last couple of days the UK been using gas for 70%+ of its total energy use. Wind and solar combined at 5%. And our energy prices are the world's highest.

The few days before that wind was 70+% of total energy use.

I agree we need a solid base capacity of energy provision (personally I would go nuclear) but the thing that would really make a difference is a proper energy storage capability.

Don't confuse wind with renewables.

I think the 70% figure was for renewables which actually includes burning wood pellets.

You mean Drax, who have been making false claims about their 'green' credentials for years in order to get the billions of £ in subsidies. We would have churned out less CO2 keeping Ratciffe-on-Soar running."

Yes, and where do those subsidies come from?

Yep you guessed it... Green taxes.

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By *2000ManMan
6 days ago

Worthing

Silliband is a dangerous person and will make millions before he and his government are removed at the next election.

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