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By *arakiss12 OP   TV/TS
2 weeks ago

Bedford

I'm not going to preach against building new houses on brown/green belt land, I am not going to cheer for joy either.

I am going to watch and see the chaos it's going to cause. Then see Starmer and Rayner take the flack for the mess they are going to cause.

My sympathies go to the wildlife and villages that are going to be impacted.

Let's see after 5 years the results.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
2 weeks ago

Bournemouth

I can 100% guarantee you that they won't build 1.5m houses in 5 years.

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By *AJMLKTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Burley

Who are the houses going to be for?

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By *verysmileMan
2 weeks ago

Canterbury

How many times have there been house building targets over the past 30 years?

How many of those targets were met?

I am not a supporter of this government but while I admire the aspiration, without the full support of the industry and the backing of local authorities, this target is likely to be unfulfilled.

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By *mateur100Man
2 weeks ago

nr faversham

There's a small village a few miles up the road that consists of approximately 230 houses. The local developer, Quinn Estates, has plans to build 8400 houses there. Naturally, the majority of the locals are against this but that doesn't matter as the planning will be taken over by central governments if it isn't approved by local government.

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By *oalie66Man
2 weeks ago

Chesterfield

The people who are going to help reach the unrealistic target aren't currently residents of the UK.

Or maybe he has a plan to use all the young men twiddling their thumbs in hotels to chip in and grant them all asylum in this once great nation.

After all the more he let's in the more future Liebour voters there there are.

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By *ountry cowboyMan
2 weeks ago

Kinross


"Who are the houses going to be for?"

They are being built for all our Muhammad's

Muhammad is the most popular name for children born in England and Wales this year.

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By *oalie66Man
2 weeks ago

Chesterfield

Sadly i think you are correct.

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By *AJMLKTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Burley


"Who are the houses going to be for?

They are being built for all our Muhammad's

Muhammad is the most popular name for children born in England and Wales this year."

So, just for new/recent "arrivals"? Have the government actually said this in so many words?

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By *end1Man
2 weeks ago

southend on sea

It's a fact we need more homes built but no one wants new estates built near them. So something has to change.

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford

Ive recently been objected planning for a 4 bed family home on our field (greenbelt) but im certain and it has been suggested it would get passed if it were 100 houses with a 30% ratio of affordable housing

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By *emma StonesTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Crewe


"Who are the houses going to be for?

They are being built for all our Muhammad's

Muhammad is the most popular name for children born in England and Wales this year.

So, just for new/recent "arrivals"? Have the government actually said this in so many words?"

Of course not, it’s just more bollocks amongst the other bollocks continually rattled out in this particular section of the forums.

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By *isurreyguy2019Man
2 weeks ago

surrey

There are scores of empty borded up council houses up and down the country just crumbling away, wouldn't it make logical sense to reinstate all of those before they even think about building on fresh land.

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"There are scores of empty borded up council houses up and down the country just crumbling away, wouldn't it make logical sense to reinstate all of those before they even think about building on fresh land."
it does make sense to save the greenbelt and coyntryside but cheeper to build new homes than renovate, surely after covid and these recent excess deaths and young famillies feeling the recent pinch with rising living costs, who are all the extra houses for?? Must be all the homeless and ex vets surely

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By *astandFeistyCouple
2 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"There are scores of empty borded up council houses up and down the country just crumbling away, wouldn't it make logical sense to reinstate all of those before they even think about building on fresh land."

Over 70k apparently.

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"There are scores of empty borded up council houses up and down the country just crumbling away, wouldn't it make logical sense to reinstate all of those before they even think about building on fresh land.

Over 70k apparently. "

to renovate? And i can beleive it with all the risk assessments and shite needed now 20k of that will be paperwork and health and safety policies

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By *astandFeistyCouple
2 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"There are scores of empty borded up council houses up and down the country just crumbling away, wouldn't it make logical sense to reinstate all of those before they even think about building on fresh land.

Over 70k apparently. to renovate? And i can beleive it with all the risk assessments and shite needed now 20k of that will be paperwork and health and safety policies "

70k social housing properties currently empty. Well, at the last count.

Local Authorities blame lack of funds.

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By *end1Man
2 weeks ago

southend on sea

We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason.

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason."
so u mean they should never of done the right to buy lol

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason."

You are suggesting a return of the council estate.

however, Public funds are finite, and social housing will need to compete with other tax payer funded services like healthcare, education, and infrastructure.

The rent alone will not be enough to employ the thousands of people needed to maintain the properties from a physical and administrational perspective.

The loan idea, is still a tax payer burden.

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason.

You are suggesting a return of the council estate.

however, Public funds are finite, and social housing will need to compete with other tax payer funded services like healthcare, education, and infrastructure.

The rent alone will not be enough to employ the thousands of people needed to maintain the properties from a physical and administrational perspective.

The loan idea, is still a tax payer burden."

who maintains them with a private landlord?? He manages so why couldn't the council manage

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason.

You are suggesting a return of the council estate.

however, Public funds are finite, and social housing will need to compete with other tax payer funded services like healthcare, education, and infrastructure.

The rent alone will not be enough to employ the thousands of people needed to maintain the properties from a physical and administrational perspective.

The loan idea, is still a tax payer burden.who maintains them with a private landlord?? He manages so why couldn't the council manage "

The first difference is the amount of rent being taken to cover repairs and insurance cover that private landlords take.

To build council stock in large numbers would be monumental undertaking, and as I mentioned, the sheer numbers of electricians, plumbers, painters, glazers, gas fitters and so on, would be eye watering. There would also be a need for administration, of rent, arrears management, temp housing, maintenance and all the systems to make that work.

The horse bolted years ago on this idea, in my opinion.

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason.

You are suggesting a return of the council estate.

however, Public funds are finite, and social housing will need to compete with other tax payer funded services like healthcare, education, and infrastructure.

The rent alone will not be enough to employ the thousands of people needed to maintain the properties from a physical and administrational perspective.

The loan idea, is still a tax payer burden.who maintains them with a private landlord?? He manages so why couldn't the council manage

The first difference is the amount of rent being taken to cover repairs and insurance cover that private landlords take.

To build council stock in large numbers would be monumental undertaking, and as I mentioned, the sheer numbers of electricians, plumbers, painters, glazers, gas fitters and so on, would be eye watering. There would also be a need for administration, of rent, arrears management, temp housing, maintenance and all the systems to make that work.

The horse bolted years ago on this idea, in my opinion. "

so plan b is to carry on paying towards private landlord rent, which will just continue to rise giving people zero chance of getting on the ladder or build new homes to give council tennants the right to buy in a constant vicious circle

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason.

You are suggesting a return of the council estate.

however, Public funds are finite, and social housing will need to compete with other tax payer funded services like healthcare, education, and infrastructure.

The rent alone will not be enough to employ the thousands of people needed to maintain the properties from a physical and administrational perspective.

The loan idea, is still a tax payer burden.who maintains them with a private landlord?? He manages so why couldn't the council manage

The first difference is the amount of rent being taken to cover repairs and insurance cover that private landlords take.

To build council stock in large numbers would be monumental undertaking, and as I mentioned, the sheer numbers of electricians, plumbers, painters, glazers, gas fitters and so on, would be eye watering. There would also be a need for administration, of rent, arrears management, temp housing, maintenance and all the systems to make that work.

The horse bolted years ago on this idea, in my opinion. "

and say private rent is 750 and they contribute??? 500?? Thats a loss of 500

Whereas a council flat at 500 is a loss of? Zero so say 250 are staffing maintainance costs theyre still 250 a month better off plus a network of housing further down the line

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By *ill69888Couple
2 weeks ago

cheltenham

There is only a need for so many houses because of mass uncontrolled immigration over the last 20+ years, particularly in the last 4 or 5.

If we put curbs on immigration after Brexit, there would not be the need for so many houses.

However, there is absolutely no chance that 1.5 million houses will be built in the next 4.5 years. Not a chance in hell!

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By *idnight RamblerMan
2 weeks ago

Pershore

Insane to be building over the countryside. It will be lost forever. There's plenty of brownfield sites in town and city centres as retail sites shrink.

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason.

You are suggesting a return of the council estate.

however, Public funds are finite, and social housing will need to compete with other tax payer funded services like healthcare, education, and infrastructure.

The rent alone will not be enough to employ the thousands of people needed to maintain the properties from a physical and administrational perspective.

The loan idea, is still a tax payer burden.who maintains them with a private landlord?? He manages so why couldn't the council manage

The first difference is the amount of rent being taken to cover repairs and insurance cover that private landlords take.

To build council stock in large numbers would be monumental undertaking, and as I mentioned, the sheer numbers of electricians, plumbers, painters, glazers, gas fitters and so on, would be eye watering. There would also be a need for administration, of rent, arrears management, temp housing, maintenance and all the systems to make that work.

The horse bolted years ago on this idea, in my opinion. and say private rent is 750 and they contribute??? 500?? Thats a loss of 500

Whereas a council flat at 500 is a loss of? Zero so say 250 are staffing maintainance costs theyre still 250 a month better off plus a network of housing further down the line "

I’m not sure where you can rent privately for 750?

That is all hypothetical, but the bottom line is to build and state own the housing stock, would be NHS 2.0 and we can’t afford it.

I honestly don’t know what the answer is other than reducing the influx of people, that will keep pushing up the number of homes needed.

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason.

You are suggesting a return of the council estate.

however, Public funds are finite, and social housing will need to compete with other tax payer funded services like healthcare, education, and infrastructure.

The rent alone will not be enough to employ the thousands of people needed to maintain the properties from a physical and administrational perspective.

The loan idea, is still a tax payer burden.who maintains them with a private landlord?? He manages so why couldn't the council manage

The first difference is the amount of rent being taken to cover repairs and insurance cover that private landlords take.

To build council stock in large numbers would be monumental undertaking, and as I mentioned, the sheer numbers of electricians, plumbers, painters, glazers, gas fitters and so on, would be eye watering. There would also be a need for administration, of rent, arrears management, temp housing, maintenance and all the systems to make that work.

The horse bolted years ago on this idea, in my opinion. and say private rent is 750 and they contribute??? 500?? Thats a loss of 500

Whereas a council flat at 500 is a loss of? Zero so say 250 are staffing maintainance costs theyre still 250 a month better off plus a network of housing further down the line

I’m not sure where you can rent privately for 750?

That is all hypothetical, but the bottom line is to build and state own the housing stock, would be NHS 2.0 and we can’t afford it.

I honestly don’t know what the answer is other than reducing the influx of people, that will keep pushing up the number of homes needed. "

u can up here anyway maybe a regular 2 bed terrace nothing fancy even less if u dont want a garden or driveway

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By *usybee73Man
2 weeks ago

in the sticks

Again ... with every problem in politics, follow the money! Whose gaining from it?

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 weeks ago

Springfield

It would be much cheaper and easier to lower the population by a couple of million !

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 weeks ago

Springfield


"It would be much cheaper and easier to lower the population by a couple of million !"

1.6 non nationals classed as unemployed in latest figures.

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By *eavilMan
2 weeks ago

Stalybridge

Can't see a nationwide cull being an election winner for any party.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason.

You are suggesting a return of the council estate.

however, Public funds are finite, and social housing will need to compete with other tax payer funded services like healthcare, education, and infrastructure.

The rent alone will not be enough to employ the thousands of people needed to maintain the properties from a physical and administrational perspective.

The loan idea, is still a tax payer burden.who maintains them with a private landlord?? He manages so why couldn't the council manage

The first difference is the amount of rent being taken to cover repairs and insurance cover that private landlords take.

To build council stock in large numbers would be monumental undertaking, and as I mentioned, the sheer numbers of electricians, plumbers, painters, glazers, gas fitters and so on, would be eye watering. There would also be a need for administration, of rent, arrears management, temp housing, maintenance and all the systems to make that work.

The horse bolted years ago on this idea, in my opinion. and say private rent is 750 and they contribute??? 500?? Thats a loss of 500

Whereas a council flat at 500 is a loss of? Zero so say 250 are staffing maintainance costs theyre still 250 a month better off plus a network of housing further down the line

I’m not sure where you can rent privately for 750?

That is all hypothetical, but the bottom line is to build and state own the housing stock, would be NHS 2.0 and we can’t afford it.

I honestly don’t know what the answer is other than reducing the influx of people, that will keep pushing up the number of homes needed. "

Council housing was taken over by housing associations and other entities for a number of reasons, including:

Reduced council capacity

In the 1980s, a series of acts reduced the ability of local councils to build social housing. These acts included: 

Local Government, Planning and Land Act 1980: Allowed the central government to penalize councils that exceeded expenditure limits 

Local Government and Housing Act 1989: Required councils to set aside 75% of sales receipts to pay down debt 

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By *end1Man
2 weeks ago

southend on sea

Maybe it's time to look at the bigger picture it would be a win win for councils as their get an income. Cut waiting lists and save on paying high rents to private landlords. I've lived in my flat for many years I have a 17 by 6ft balcony which is close to the seafront I pay 525 pounds a month including maintenance. I've had a brand new kitchen and bathroom completely rewired with new heating. I couldn't get a bedsit for 525 per month.

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By *end1Man
2 weeks ago

southend on sea


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason.so u mean they should never of done the right to buy lol "
had they replaced them like for like wouldn't be a problem but like everything else with the Tories and labour they all look for the short term instead of longterm hence leaving us in this mess.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
2 weeks ago

nearby


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own.

"

Home ownership rates across Europe average 70%

Germany is below average at 46%, so is the UK at 62%.

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By *eedshandymanMan
2 weeks ago

leeds

Thank thatcher

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
2 weeks ago

nearby


"Thank thatcher"

The lack of affordable housing is a chronic problem - on this, all the political parties are agreed. But when it comes to understanding the cause of the crisis, there's no such consensus.

While Labour had promised that it would double the rate of housebuilding by 2020 (equivalent to some 240,000 homes per year), one of its London Assembly members has argued that the party should "apologise" for its record on affordable housing.

Tom Copley, Labour's housing spokesman in the capital, said that Margaret Thatcher's government had built more council flats and houses in a single year than New Labour's managed in its entire period in office.

The official data shows that the Blair and Brown governments built 7,870 council houses (local authority tenure) over the course of 13 years. (If we don't include 2010 - the year when David Cameron became PM - this number drops to 6,510.) Mr Copley contrasted this figure with the record of Mrs Thatcher's government, which never built fewer than 17,710 homes in a year.

Between 1997 and 2010, of the 2.61 million homes constructed, only 0.3% were local authority tenure. Mrs Thatcher's government supervised the building of a similar number of houses (2.63 million), but 18.9% were LA or 'council' properties.

To look at it another way, New Labour built an average of 562 council houses per year. And Mrs Thatcher's Conservatives? 41,343. That said, it's also true that the number of council houses under construction declined steadily during Mrs Thatcher's era.

The right to buy scheme introduced by thatcher in 1979 and still running has sold off 2.4 million council houses and flats at one time discounts to tenants. New Labour did not stop the scheme, and Rayner has said she will be making changes to it to prevent some people being eligible. She herself made a £48,000 profit on her right to buy, while not using it as her main residence.

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 weeks ago

Springfield


"Thank thatcher

The lack of affordable housing is a chronic problem - on this, all the political parties are agreed. But when it comes to understanding the cause of the crisis, there's no such consensus.

While Labour had promised that it would double the rate of housebuilding by 2020 (equivalent to some 240,000 homes per year), one of its London Assembly members has argued that the party should "apologise" for its record on affordable housing.

Tom Copley, Labour's housing spokesman in the capital, said that Margaret Thatcher's government had built more council flats and houses in a single year than New Labour's managed in its entire period in office.

The official data shows that the Blair and Brown governments built 7,870 council houses (local authority tenure) over the course of 13 years. (If we don't include 2010 - the year when David Cameron became PM - this number drops to 6,510.) Mr Copley contrasted this figure with the record of Mrs Thatcher's government, which never built fewer than 17,710 homes in a year.

Between 1997 and 2010, of the 2.61 million homes constructed, only 0.3% were local authority tenure. Mrs Thatcher's government supervised the building of a similar number of houses (2.63 million), but 18.9% were LA or 'council' properties.

To look at it another way, New Labour built an average of 562 council houses per year. And Mrs Thatcher's Conservatives? 41,343. That said, it's also true that the number of council houses under construction declined steadily during Mrs Thatcher's era.

The right to buy scheme introduced by thatcher in 1979 and still running has sold off 2.4 million council houses and flats at one time discounts to tenants. New Labour did not stop the scheme, and Rayner has said she will be making changes to it to prevent some people being eligible. She herself made a £48,000 profit on her right to buy, while not using it as her main residence. "

Very informative, thanks for sharing.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason.so u mean they should never of done the right to buy lol had they replaced them like for like wouldn't be a problem but like everything else with the Tories and labour they all look for the short term instead of longterm hence leaving us in this mess."

So is it not time to build a new town/ city Milton Keynes I believe was the last.

Why not start new towns.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
2 weeks ago

nearby


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason.so u mean they should never of done the right to buy lol had they replaced them like for like wouldn't be a problem but like everything else with the Tories and labour they all look for the short term instead of longterm hence leaving us in this mess.

So is it not time to build a new town/ city Milton Keynes I believe was the last.

Why not start new towns."

As well as the new towns that are needed. There will be a time, if we are not already there, when it will no longer be cost effective or practical to keep upgrading older properties. 19% of UK’s 27 million dwellings were constructed before 1914. (English housing survey).

On affordable housing and private rented, there are three times the number of private rented sector tenants in older properties, poorly insulated, expensive to heat etc, as opposed private rented tenants new(er) better insulated homes.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason.so u mean they should never of done the right to buy lol had they replaced them like for like wouldn't be a problem but like everything else with the Tories and labour they all look for the short term instead of longterm hence leaving us in this mess.

So is it not time to build a new town/ city Milton Keynes I believe was the last.

Why not start new towns.

As well as the new towns that are needed. There will be a time, if we are not already there, when it will no longer be cost effective or practical to keep upgrading older properties. 19% of UK’s 27 million dwellings were constructed before 1914. (English housing survey).

On affordable housing and private rented, there are three times the number of private rented sector tenants in older properties, poorly insulated, expensive to heat etc, as opposed private rented tenants new(er) better insulated homes. "

Totally agree. In Hastings there are lots of streets / areas that in my opinion need to be flattered and redeveloped, but at what cost,

It would also remove aspestos from the property's people are living in. As well damp hard to heat homes.

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 weeks ago

Springfield

Report on BBC website about shortage of building skills. This is a long term failure to invest in a vital sector. The building industry relied on workers from Eastern Europe who were cheaper than UK ones but now so many have returned home we're stuffed.

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By *ired_upMan
2 weeks ago

ashton


"Report on BBC website about shortage of building skills. This is a long term failure to invest in a vital sector. The building industry relied on workers from Eastern Europe who were cheaper than UK ones but now so many have returned home we're stuffed. "

This is what does my head in. The Tories didn't encourage the sector to invest, campaigned for and then chose this version of Brexit, then didn't do anything else and now are blaming Labour as it's impossible to achieve thanks to their own actions.

Like your teenager blaming you for the state of the house after a house party they were warned about not throwing, threw anyway, and then we're sick in he houseplants and now are moaning about how long it's taking you to clear it up as their girlfriend is coming over in half a hour and she doesn't like mess.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
2 weeks ago

nearby

BBC reporting for every 10,000 new homes to be built, the sector needs about 30,000 new recruits across 12 trades, according to the HBF, the trade body for the house building industry in England and Wales.

Based on the government's plans, the estimated number of new workers required for some common trades, for example, would be:

20,000 bricklayers

2,400 plumbers

8,000 carpenters

3,200 plasterers

20,000 groundworkers

1,200 tilers

2,400 electricians

2,400 roofers

480 engineers

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Report on BBC website about shortage of building skills. This is a long term failure to invest in a vital sector. The building industry relied on workers from Eastern Europe who were cheaper than UK ones but now so many have returned home we're stuffed.

This is what does my head in. The Tories didn't encourage the sector to invest, campaigned for and then chose this version of Brexit, then didn't do anything else and now are blaming Labour as it's impossible to achieve thanks to their own actions.

Like your teenager blaming you for the state of the house after a house party they were warned about not throwing, threw anyway, and then we're sick in he houseplants and now are moaning about how long it's taking you to clear it up as their girlfriend is coming over in half a hour and she doesn't like mess.

"

You are blaming the tories for labour not being able to deliver on their ambiguous, finger in the air target, set by them and delivered by the private sector.

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By *ountry cowboyMan
2 weeks ago

Kinross


"Again ... with every problem in politics, follow the money! Whose gaining from it?"

Buy a large home in an affluent area

Spend £500,000 - £750,000 in an area that is as close to a gated community as possible

This keeps the riff raff and undesirables well away.

This works well in Scotland and you get a hell of a big house for £750,000 up here, unlike down south in England land 😉

Being fully honest we only have one Asian in our village and he is a doctor who is married to a solicitor.

We see no immigrants, coloureds or unemployed around our village

Money keeps them away.

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"Again ... with every problem in politics, follow the money! Whose gaining from it?

Buy a large home in an affluent area

Spend £500,000 - £750,000 in an area that is as close to a gated community as possible

This keeps the riff raff and undesirables well away.

This works well in Scotland and you get a hell of a big house for £750,000 up here, unlike down south in England land 😉

Being fully honest we only have one Asian in our village and he is a doctor who is married to a solicitor.

We see no immigrants, coloureds or unemployed around our village

Money keeps them away."

i dont agree with that theory as big houses mean big families and we all know who has the big families, time is only thing u have helping at the moment been rural but ive seen it happen near me, terraced houses then big houses then even the rural houses and small farm houses once there in there in, id say the only way to be clear is dont live near any shops thats their way into a village

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By *eroy1000Man
2 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Report on BBC website about shortage of building skills. This is a long term failure to invest in a vital sector. The building industry relied on workers from Eastern Europe who were cheaper than UK ones but now so many have returned home we're stuffed.

This is what does my head in. The Tories didn't encourage the sector to invest, campaigned for and then chose this version of Brexit, then didn't do anything else and now are blaming Labour as it's impossible to achieve thanks to their own actions.

Like your teenager blaming you for the state of the house after a house party they were warned about not throwing, threw anyway, and then we're sick in he houseplants and now are moaning about how long it's taking you to clear it up as their girlfriend is coming over in half a hour and she doesn't like mess.

"

The situation of how many builders and related trades people there are in the UK would have been known and available to Labour before they made the pledge of 1.5 million homes.

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 weeks ago

Springfield

Both Labour and Conservatives and the building industry are responsible for the long term skill shortages. Labour under Blair allowed unlimited EU immigration and the industry welcomed it because it brought labour cost down. Then the Tories continued those policies and failed to prepare for losing skilled workers after Brexit.

Also the UK hasn't taken vocational training seriously for decades but instead has produced millions of University graduates with few employable skills. We should shut down most of the low quality Unis and open a new network of vocational training centres.

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By *ountry cowboyMan
2 weeks ago

Kinross


"Again ... with every problem in politics, follow the money! Whose gaining from it?

Buy a large home in an affluent area

Spend £500,000 - £750,000 in an area that is as close to a gated community as possible

This keeps the riff raff and undesirables well away.

This works well in Scotland and you get a hell of a big house for £750,000 up here, unlike down south in England land 😉

Being fully honest we only have one Asian in our village and he is a doctor who is married to a solicitor.

We see no immigrants, coloureds or unemployed around our village

Money keeps them away.i dont agree with that theory as big houses mean big families and we all know who has the big families, time is only thing u have helping at the moment been rural but ive seen it happen near me, terraced houses then big houses then even the rural houses and small farm houses once there in there in, id say the only way to be clear is dont live near any shops thats their way into a village "

That's actually nonsense.

The majority of households are retirees with no kids.

Many 5 bedroom/5 living space homes in our street are with retired husband and wife, or single person as they are widowed or widower.

It's good security though as all are home all day and everyone keeps an eye out for each other's properties

There's more dog's than kids in our village

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Central


"We as a nation are obsessed with owning our own homes yet in Germany more people rent than own. So a radical thought how about councils are allowed to borrow money from the government/bank with a set rate of payback and build social housing in turn this would lead to waiting lists to come down. Also a guaranteed income for councils who in turn wouldn't have to pay the extremely high private landlords when the occupants are unemployed for what ever reason.so u mean they should never of done the right to buy lol had they replaced them like for like wouldn't be a problem but like everything else with the Tories and labour they all look for the short term instead of longterm hence leaving us in this mess.

So is it not time to build a new town/ city Milton Keynes I believe was the last.

Why not start new towns."

I think they proposed several new towns and they're to identify where they'll be in a year or so.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
2 weeks ago

BRIDPORT


"Both Labour and Conservatives and the building industry are responsible for the long term skill shortages. Labour under Blair allowed unlimited EU immigration and the industry welcomed it because it brought labour cost down. Then the Tories continued those policies and failed to prepare for losing skilled workers after Brexit.

Also the UK hasn't taken vocational training seriously for decades but instead has produced millions of University graduates with few employable skills. We should shut down most of the low quality Unis and open a new network of vocational training centres."

You would still have the problem of attracting youngsters to work in these environments.

Most opt for the office/IT/retail because they simply don’t want to be outside in all weathers doing manual work.

I do agree with changing the culture surrounding achieving a University education. In job training is far more useful than a bunch of irrelevant degrees for the majority of people.

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"Again ... with every problem in politics, follow the money! Whose gaining from it?

Buy a large home in an affluent area

Spend £500,000 - £750,000 in an area that is as close to a gated community as possible

This keeps the riff raff and undesirables well away.

This works well in Scotland and you get a hell of a big house for £750,000 up here, unlike down south in England land 😉

Being fully honest we only have one Asian in our village and he is a doctor who is married to a solicitor.

We see no immigrants, coloureds or unemployed around our village

Money keeps them away.i dont agree with that theory as big houses mean big families and we all know who has the big families, time is only thing u have helping at the moment been rural but ive seen it happen near me, terraced houses then big houses then even the rural houses and small farm houses once there in there in, id say the only way to be clear is dont live near any shops thats their way into a village

That's actually nonsense.

The majority of households are retirees with no kids.

Many 5 bedroom/5 living space homes in our street are with retired husband and wife, or single person as they are widowed or widower.

It's good security though as all are home all day and everyone keeps an eye out for each other's properties

There's more dog's than kids in our village "

suppose its just different views from different demographics and considering bradford is about 40% muslim ive moved more times than id like and left many lovly homes to keep ahead of the influx 😂

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"Again ... with every problem in politics, follow the money! Whose gaining from it?

Buy a large home in an affluent area

Spend £500,000 - £750,000 in an area that is as close to a gated community as possible

This keeps the riff raff and undesirables well away.

This works well in Scotland and you get a hell of a big house for £750,000 up here, unlike down south in England land 😉

Being fully honest we only have one Asian in our village and he is a doctor who is married to a solicitor.

We see no immigrants, coloureds or unemployed around our village

Money keeps them away."

But it's cold up there us Southern softeys can't take it.

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By *ountry cowboyMan
2 weeks ago

Kinross


"Again ... with every problem in politics, follow the money! Whose gaining from it?

Buy a large home in an affluent area

Spend £500,000 - £750,000 in an area that is as close to a gated community as possible

This keeps the riff raff and undesirables well away.

This works well in Scotland and you get a hell of a big house for £750,000 up here, unlike down south in England land 😉

Being fully honest we only have one Asian in our village and he is a doctor who is married to a solicitor.

We see no immigrants, coloureds or unemployed around our village

Money keeps them away.i dont agree with that theory as big houses mean big families and we all know who has the big families, time is only thing u have helping at the moment been rural but ive seen it happen near me, terraced houses then big houses then even the rural houses and small farm houses once there in there in, id say the only way to be clear is dont live near any shops thats their way into a village

That's actually nonsense.

The majority of households are retirees with no kids.

Many 5 bedroom/5 living space homes in our street are with retired husband and wife, or single person as they are widowed or widower.

It's good security though as all are home all day and everyone keeps an eye out for each other's properties

There's more dog's than kids in our village suppose its just different views from different demographics and considering bradford is about 40% muslim ive moved more times than id like and left many lovly homes to keep ahead of the influx 😂"

Have to agree with you there

We were down in Manchester staying over to see Chris Stapleton in concert and honestly could not believe the number of Muslims in the shopping centres. I'm sure they are all fine people but the numbers of immigrants was astounding, I say Muslim because many wore those garments with only a slot for their eyes to see out, not sure what those things are called.

Also a huge number of black people which I've never really witnessed before. You maybe see 4 or 5 of them in our cities of Glasgow or especially Edinburgh as we get tourists but never seen such numbers as we witnessed in Manchester.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
2 weeks ago

nearby

Article in today’s Guardian accusing Labour of building slum homes bypassing planning on office to resi conversions.

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 weeks ago

Springfield


"Article in today’s Guardian accusing Labour of building slum homes bypassing planning on office to resi conversions. "

Quality of new houses already shocking in places, don't need it to get worse.

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By *end1Man
7 days ago

southend on sea

New housing development near us all the main structures up developer went bust half way through now been deemed unfit and the whole lot has to be pulled down.

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By *otMe66Man
7 days ago

Terra Firma


"New housing development near us all the main structures up developer went bust half way through now been deemed unfit and the whole lot has to be pulled down."

I have read about that. It would be interesting to know how the houses got so far along before failing health and safety tests.

Also the demolition didn't look graceful, I'm surprised they didn't salvage some of the fixings such as windows and doors..

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By *oandstephCouple
7 days ago

Bradford


"New housing development near us all the main structures up developer went bust half way through now been deemed unfit and the whole lot has to be pulled down.

I have read about that. It would be interesting to know how the houses got so far along before failing health and safety tests.

Also the demolition didn't look graceful, I'm surprised they didn't salvage some of the fixings such as windows and doors.."

costs too much in labour and then new buyers in theory end up with second hand doors with no original purchase receipts for warranties ect

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
7 days ago

nearby


"New housing development near us all the main structures up developer went bust half way through now been deemed unfit and the whole lot has to be pulled down."

A development near us, Calstock, for 33 homes, developer claims to have put aside £2.8m to build out 15 of those as affordable, increasing costs have seen the site abandoned. Developer says council are weaponising planning with unreasonable amount of affordable units on private sector development

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By *oandstephCouple
7 days ago

Bradford


"New housing development near us all the main structures up developer went bust half way through now been deemed unfit and the whole lot has to be pulled down.

A development near us, Calstock, for 33 homes, developer claims to have put aside £2.8m to build out 15 of those as affordable, increasing costs have seen the site abandoned. Developer says council are weaponising planning with unreasonable amount of affordable units on private sector development "

similar happened on a site i worked on 8 "affordable" homes had to go up in price 50k or they couldnt be finished on budget 🤷

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By *otMe66Man
7 days ago

Terra Firma


"New housing development near us all the main structures up developer went bust half way through now been deemed unfit and the whole lot has to be pulled down.

I have read about that. It would be interesting to know how the houses got so far along before failing health and safety tests.

Also the demolition didn't look graceful, I'm surprised they didn't salvage some of the fixings such as windows and doors..costs too much in labour and then new buyers in theory end up with second hand doors with no original purchase receipts for warranties ect "

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
7 days ago

nearby


"New housing development near us all the main structures up developer went bust half way through now been deemed unfit and the whole lot has to be pulled down.

A development near us, Calstock, for 33 homes, developer claims to have put aside £2.8m to build out 15 of those as affordable, increasing costs have seen the site abandoned. Developer says council are weaponising planning with unreasonable amount of affordable units on private sector development similar happened on a site i worked on 8 "affordable" homes had to go up in price 50k or they couldnt be finished on budget 🤷"

This is why nvq level 2 sign language Angela Rayner, now housing minister, who is less qualified that second year apprentice hasn’t a scooby how to deliver 1.5 million new homes.

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By *oandstephCouple
7 days ago

Bradford


"New housing development near us all the main structures up developer went bust half way through now been deemed unfit and the whole lot has to be pulled down.

A development near us, Calstock, for 33 homes, developer claims to have put aside £2.8m to build out 15 of those as affordable, increasing costs have seen the site abandoned. Developer says council are weaponising planning with unreasonable amount of affordable units on private sector development similar happened on a site i worked on 8 "affordable" homes had to go up in price 50k or they couldnt be finished on budget 🤷

This is why nvq level 2 sign language Angela Rayner, now housing minister, who is less qualified that second year apprentice hasn’t a scooby how to deliver 1.5 million new homes. "

i think the issue of WHY wr need 1.5 millions and WHO are they for is more important

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