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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo?" Nigella lawson has a few quid | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo?" Apparently it was all handled internally and he has had a number of warnings previously. | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? Apparently it was all handled internally and he has had a number of warnings previously. " Yes, seeing those reports but again it is only gossip, nothing confirmed by the BBC | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo?" I was assaulted and had to visit the police about 5 times. Case got thrown out due to him talking bollocks for nine hours. You wouldn't go threw all that interrogation unless it was real. Talk to any victims of sexual assault. | |||
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"He's done himself no favours by trying to belittle the victims. He should have kept silent and waited for the outcome of investigations. Trying to hurt potential victims is a very nasty trait" I agree, that was stupid and unpleasant | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? I was assaulted and had to visit the police about 5 times. Case got thrown out due to him talking bollocks for nine hours. You wouldn't go threw all that interrogation unless it was real. Talk to any victims of sexual assault. " Who do you mean? You having to visit the police five times or him being interrogated for nine hours? Your pleasant chats with supportive officers over a cup of tea does not compare to his interrogation (as he was proved/found innocent) | |||
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"To begin with I wanted to think it was a bit of an overblown issue but the more it comes out the more it’s becoming real, the video he put up trying to be the victim just tipped it over the edge as he has clearly got no thought process that he has done wrong " Or because he has done no wrong? | |||
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"He's done himself no favours by trying to belittle the victims. He should have kept silent and waited for the outcome of investigations. Trying to hurt potential victims is a very nasty trait" At this stage of the process I think they are referred too as ‘alleged’ victims. | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? I was assaulted and had to visit the police about 5 times. Case got thrown out due to him talking bollocks for nine hours. You wouldn't go threw all that interrogation unless it was real. Talk to any victims of sexual assault. Who do you mean? You having to visit the police five times or him being interrogated for nine hours? Your pleasant chats with supportive officers over a cup of tea does not compare to his interrogation (as he was proved/found innocent)" He wasn't proved anything, period. | |||
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"A bloke who says sexual innuendos and tries his luck, sounds like this website but of course he's in the work place and not on his own time." That’s the key difference. Anyone on here is here by choice and knows what’s involved. I can see how it would be a problem in your workplace, from someone who is essentially in a senior role, and is leery with it. Imagine having to work with someone you daren’t be alone with? | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? I was assaulted and had to visit the police about 5 times. Case got thrown out due to him talking bollocks for nine hours. You wouldn't go threw all that interrogation unless it was real. Talk to any victims of sexual assault. Who do you mean? You having to visit the police five times or him being interrogated for nine hours? Your pleasant chats with supportive officers over a cup of tea does not compare to his interrogation (as he was proved/found innocent) He wasn't proved anything, period. " So he was convicted? No. So you think libelling him in public is the way to go? Should he see your comments you could be in trouble my friend. | |||
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"Aside from the main problem I think there are others that have lead to this. The reluctance of women (in this instance) to speak up at the time. The social acceptance of the type of behaviour he is alleged to have shown. The institutional turning a blind eye that has been going on for years. The 'banter ' clause that *some* men use to get out of poor behaviour. The willingness of people in the public eye to suddenly find a voice when they previously kept their mouth shut. . . I don't know him or any of the people involved so I'm not prepared to judge any of them but I really don't like the trial by social media culture that's grown up and the people publicly dissing him had better hope they don't have skeletons in their cupboard. It's a shame that big institutions have been shown time after time to be useless at dealing with these things leaving people feeling their only option is to make it a public thing. If we could trust the process things might be different but time after time it's been shown that we can't. " I'm hoping the recent change in the Equality Act will do something to help force institutions to act. If you can't prove you have taken reasonable steps to prevent sexual harassment of employees then as I understand it a tribunal can uplift any sexual harrassment award by 25% as a penalty on the employer for breaching their duty. Although the duty of protection extends to harassment by third parties I don't think the award uplift does though. Historical claims will continue to be made but I'm hoping this will drive change through the organisation. | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo?" There have been multiple reports to BBC HR since 2012 and Wallace was given warnings about his behaviour by HR in 2017 and 2018. Is that good enough for you? | |||
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"I was referring more to his less than tactful response as shown this morning that it has all come from middleclass women of a certain age. I would be more guilty than most of saying the wrong thing at the wrong time and think it was amusing when actually some take offence but I am not in a position to get ctucified by the media and general public." I think his Instagram video is very helpful indeed. It shows him in his true colours. Judge for yourself.... | |||
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"This is confidential stuff, but a best friend of ours both formerly of "the Biz" and in the right circles, has been to her fair share of celeb dinner parties. At them, you get to see how people really are, as they are in an echo-chamber of celebrity, and don't need to keep up the pretense around the plebs. One HUGE comedy name was an utter bastard (won't name him, as he's still one of the UK's biggest exports) but another she had dinner with was Mr Wallace, accompanied by his first wife. He was pretty rotten to his wife from the outset, but as the evening wore on, he treated her like dogshit, and was almost blissfully unable to read the room at how his actions affected those around him, whom watched with discomfort. The guy has no filter, nor awareness of how his actions affect others." This (the behaviour to his wife) aligns with something Kirstie Allsop said about him recently too. To be honest, his recent statement gave me the ick, so guilty or not (because I don’t know the details) I think he’s a prat. And if you’ve been warned about your behaviour, then you don’t need to be aware of your own actions - you’ve been TOLD that they’re not appropriate, so can we stop saying it’s autism related. Austistic people get enough shit without folk blaming autism on every bad behaviour and dodgy personality characteristic going. | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? There have been multiple reports to BBC HR since 2012 and Wallace was given warnings about his behaviour by HR in 2017 and 2018. Is that good enough for you?" Where was this reported? | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? There have been multiple reports to BBC HR since 2012 and Wallace was given warnings about his behaviour by HR in 2017 and 2018. Is that good enough for you? Where was this reported?" Bbc news... the guardian... That took 30seconds on Google. I'm all for innocent before proven guilty but why are you so adamant there is no validity to any of the complaints? | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? There have been multiple reports to BBC HR since 2012 and Wallace was given warnings about his behaviour by HR in 2017 and 2018. Is that good enough for you? Where was this reported? Bbc news... the guardian... That took 30seconds on Google. I'm all for innocent before proven guilty but why are you so adamant there is no validity to any of the complaints?" Just as I thought, made up nonsense. There is no way any organisation,let alone the BBC would reveal anything about such a case. Feel free to copy and paste these made up reports. | |||
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"I merely mentioned the possibility of him being autistic due to reading this in the Daily Mail: The therapist friend said: 'Gregg carries many of the autistic symptoms, the people who know him best have been saying it for years. 'He's never formally been tested, due a feeling of responsibility over Sid's diagnosis, but he really should be as it may explain a lot about his actions. 'Gregg has form for his inability to read the room, saying things that don't really belong in the moment. He has no filter and in social situations that can become dangerous, especially when it comes to jokes about sex. 'He has a light filter when it comes to sex which is common in people on the spectrum. In the modern world of TV where you can't just dismiss some of his actions as banter. " That’s ok, I get a bit defensive when Autism is mentioned as my youngest is Autistic and he’s bloody lovely. Wasn’t a personal go at you, just aimed at the press. | |||
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"To be honest, his recent statement gave me the ick, so guilty or not (because I don’t know the details) I think he’s a prat. Austistic people get enough shit without folk blaming autism on every bad behaviour and dodgy personality characteristic going." My husband is Autistic, and he thinks that Mr Wallace is "an ill-mannered prick whom mistakes cheekiness for obnoxiousness". | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? There have been multiple reports to BBC HR since 2012 and Wallace was given warnings about his behaviour by HR in 2017 and 2018. Is that good enough for you? Where was this reported? Bbc news... the guardian... That took 30seconds on Google. I'm all for innocent before proven guilty but why are you so adamant there is no validity to any of the complaints? Just as I thought, made up nonsense. There is no way any organisation,let alone the BBC would reveal anything about such a case. Feel free to copy and paste these made up reports." BTW,if you care to read my comments you will see I am not questioning the validity of the complaints. Just the emergence of them all at once plus the history of false accusations against men in the public eye | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? There have been multiple reports to BBC HR since 2012 and Wallace was given warnings about his behaviour by HR in 2017 and 2018. Is that good enough for you? Where was this reported? Bbc news... the guardian... That took 30seconds on Google. I'm all for innocent before proven guilty but why are you so adamant there is no validity to any of the complaints? Just as I thought, made up nonsense. There is no way any organisation,let alone the BBC would reveal anything about such a case. Feel free to copy and paste these made up reports." You asked where it was reported. That's where it was reported. I'm sorry that when provided with the sources you then deemed them to be nonsense. Can you provide me with a list of credible sources that you would accept? | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? There have been multiple reports to BBC HR since 2012 and Wallace was given warnings about his behaviour by HR in 2017 and 2018. Is that good enough for you? Where was this reported? Bbc news... the guardian... That took 30seconds on Google. I'm all for innocent before proven guilty but why are you so adamant there is no validity to any of the complaints? Just as I thought, made up nonsense. There is no way any organisation,let alone the BBC would reveal anything about such a case. Feel free to copy and paste these made up reports. You asked where it was reported. That's where it was reported. I'm sorry that when provided with the sources you then deemed them to be nonsense. Can you provide me with a list of credible sources that you would accept? " Copy and paste dear chap, I cannot find these "reports" you have made up | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? There have been multiple reports to BBC HR since 2012 and Wallace was given warnings about his behaviour by HR in 2017 and 2018. Is that good enough for you? Where was this reported? Bbc news... the guardian... That took 30seconds on Google. I'm all for innocent before proven guilty but why are you so adamant there is no validity to any of the complaints? Just as I thought, made up nonsense. There is no way any organisation,let alone the BBC would reveal anything about such a case. Feel free to copy and paste these made up reports. BTW,if you care to read my comments you will see I am not questioning the validity of the complaints. Just the emergence of them all at once plus the history of false accusations against men in the public eye" There have been far far more genuine accusations of men in the public eye than false from my experience but if you want to provide figures I'll happily admit I'm wrong. Jumping to the conclusion that someone making a complaint about another person is looking for compo does nothing to encourage people to make complaints independently, so it's no fucking wonder they struggle with the courage to do it until others have spoken out | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? There have been multiple reports to BBC HR since 2012 and Wallace was given warnings about his behaviour by HR in 2017 and 2018. Is that good enough for you? Where was this reported? Bbc news... the guardian... That took 30seconds on Google. I'm all for innocent before proven guilty but why are you so adamant there is no validity to any of the complaints? Just as I thought, made up nonsense. There is no way any organisation,let alone the BBC would reveal anything about such a case. Feel free to copy and paste these made up reports. BTW,if you care to read my comments you will see I am not questioning the validity of the complaints. Just the emergence of them all at once plus the history of false accusations against men in the public eye There have been far far more genuine accusations of men in the public eye than false from my experience but if you want to provide figures I'll happily admit I'm wrong. Jumping to the conclusion that someone making a complaint about another person is looking for compo does nothing to encourage people to make complaints independently, so it's no fucking wonder they struggle with the courage to do it until others have spoken out" Boring me now. Copy and paste | |||
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"That’s ok, I get a bit defensive when Autism is mentioned as my youngest is Autistic and he’s bloody lovely." I’m sure a fair chunk of Fabs are ND, but nobody tries to use it as a shield/weapon. | |||
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"? Copy and paste dear chap, I cannot find these "reports" you have made up" https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/dec/01/what-are-the-allegations-against-gregg-wallace-masterchef Yip I've made these up | |||
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"? Copy and paste dear chap, I cannot find these "reports" you have made up https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/dec/01/what-are-the-allegations-against-gregg-wallace-masterchef Yip I've made these up" As I have repeatedly said,there are no "reports", there are allegations. Learn the bloody difference lol | |||
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"What an utter twat, he has well and truly soiled his own nest now, have never taken to the bloke always thought he was way to far up his backside." Love the 1 G at the end of his name, apparently it winds him right up, the egotistical prick. No room for people like him on my screen | |||
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"There is some talk that he may be autistic and he does have an autistic son. Might well explain his inability to read the room and his failure to understand that his behaviour is inappropriate." It's not an excuse for inappropriate sexual behaviour, sexualised language and being a dick. | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo?" Not sure you can get compo for having to listen to his inappropriate jokes tbh Wearing just a sock on his willy? Perhaps He's gone about dealing with it in the wrong way... own it, apologise and maybe say he cleaned up his act in more recent years... | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? There have been multiple reports to BBC HR since 2012 and Wallace was given warnings about his behaviour by HR in 2017 and 2018. Is that good enough for you? Where was this reported? Bbc news... the guardian... That took 30seconds on Google. I'm all for innocent before proven guilty but why are you so adamant there is no validity to any of the complaints? Just as I thought, made up nonsense. There is no way any organisation,let alone the BBC would reveal anything about such a case. Feel free to copy and paste these made up reports. You asked where it was reported. That's where it was reported. I'm sorry that when provided with the sources you then deemed them to be nonsense. Can you provide me with a list of credible sources that you would accept? Copy and paste dear chap, I cannot find these "reports" you have made up" Certainly. From BBC News: "We have also found that Wallace was warned by the BBC after a complaint was raised about him in 2018 about the show Impossible Celebrities. Two of the women who complained say Wallace talked openly about his sex life to staff on the show, making them feel uncomfortable. One said his sexual jokes were "disgusting", adding that he would talk about how often he was having sex, and how he was a good lover. After they complained, Wallace apologised and they were offered counselling. A formal HR investigation took place and, in the outcome letter, which we have seen, the BBC concluded that "many aspects of [Wallace's] behaviour were both unacceptable and unprofessional". In a subsequent letter, which we have also seen, a BBC executive said she had held a 90-minute meeting with Wallace to make clear "how seriously the BBC takes this matter". She also reassured the workers that action would be taken "to prevent a similar reoccurrence and to safeguard others in the future"." Source: BBC News - Gregg Wallace steps aside from Masterchef as host as allegations are investigated - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7n1e8n721o | |||
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"Kirsty Wark,one of the strongest women on TV didn't feel the need to complain about a joke for 13 years. Didn't feel the need to quit the show at the time she was that upset. Then come another 12 bandwagon jumpers.No reports,just lazy allegations " ---------------------------- Kirsty Wark appears 'strong', in the context we know her as a tv journalist, those qualities don't necessarily carry through into our real lives where most of us let crass comments slide, that doesn't necessarily mean we enjoy the 'banter' or it should continue. | |||
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"The attitude of some men on this topic, whilst completely unsurprising, is a disgrace. A complete and utter disgrace." I agree. Sadly I’m not surprised. The world is full of misogynists and assault apologists that are upset that it’s not ‘allowed’ anymore or is being called out, then attacking those making the complaints. The simple truth is that if you’re not ok with someone speaking out, then you’re not ok with consent | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? I was assaulted and had to visit the police about 5 times. Case got thrown out due to him talking bollocks for nine hours. You wouldn't go threw all that interrogation unless it was real. Talk to any victims of sexual assault. Who do you mean? You having to visit the police five times or him being interrogated for nine hours? Your pleasant chats with supportive officers over a cup of tea does not compare to his interrogation (as he was proved/found innocent)" a case being dismissed is in no way shape or form the same as someone being innocent... let's hope you're not on the receiving end of sexual assault...your tune would soon be very different | |||
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"Kirsty Wark,one of the strongest women on TV didn't feel the need to complain about a joke for 13 years. Didn't feel the need to quit the show at the time she was that upset. Then come another 12 bandwagon jumpers.No reports,just lazy allegations ---------------------------- Kirsty Wark appears 'strong', in the context we know her as a tv journalist, those qualities don't necessarily carry through into our real lives where most of us let crass comments slide, that doesn't necessarily mean we enjoy the 'banter' or it should continue." It wasn't in "real life",she was on MasterChef and there is a video of Wallace and Wark laughing and joking and having banter. Does not appear to be an issue or any tension between them | |||
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"Kirsty Wark,one of the strongest women on TV didn't feel the need to complain about a joke for 13 years. Didn't feel the need to quit the show at the time she was that upset. Then come another 12 bandwagon jumpers.No reports,just lazy allegations ---------------------------- Kirsty Wark appears 'strong', in the context we know her as a tv journalist, those qualities don't necessarily carry through into our real lives where most of us let crass comments slide, that doesn't necessarily mean we enjoy the 'banter' or it should continue. It wasn't in "real life",she was on MasterChef and there is a video of Wallace and Wark laughing and joking and having banter. Does not appear to be an issue or any tension between them" ---------------------- I was really talking in general terms, none of us know Kirsty Wark (in real life) but I do know how I and other women (I know) behave in similar situations. | |||
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"Aside from the main problem I think there are others that have lead to this. The reluctance of women (in this instance) to speak up at the time. The social acceptance of the type of behaviour he is alleged to have shown. The institutional turning a blind eye that has been going on for years. The 'banter ' clause that *some* men use to get out of poor behaviour. The willingness of people in the public eye to suddenly find a voice when they previously kept their mouth shut. . . I don't know him or any of the people involved so I'm not prepared to judge any of them but I really don't like the trial by social media culture that's grown up and the people publicly dissing him had better hope they don't have skeletons in their cupboard. It's a shame that big institutions have been shown time after time to be useless at dealing with these things leaving people feeling their only option is to make it a public thing. If we could trust the process things might be different but time after time it's been shown that we can't. " About 35 years ago my wife and I worked together managing a branch of a small company. We had a young and very attractive secretary who spoke to my wife saying that another member of staff who was probably old enough to be her grandfather had made suggestive remarks to her and made her feel very uncomfortable. She didn’t want anything done about it but we managed to persuade her otherwise so I spoke to him and the following day he didn’t turn up and that was the last time we saw him. People were reluctant to make a fuss in those days but fortunately not so much now. | |||
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"Who do you mean? You having to visit the police five times or him being interrogated for nine hours? Your pleasant chats with supportive officers over a cup of tea does not compare to his interrogation (as he was proved/found innocent)" I’m guessing your views are based mostly on television “police procedures” then? And in Wales and England, it’s either guilty or not guilty. No one is ever really “proved” innocent. Gbat | |||
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"Just seen a clip of Katie Brand (I think) giggling like a schoolgirl when Wallace said he could eat her tart all day. If that is the level of offence we really need to get a grip and not destroy a man's life. " I totally agree,she certainly didn't seem offended | |||
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"I totally agree,she certainly didn't seem offended " If she was offended, they wouldn’t show it. It’s not that type of programme. Editing is the word you’re looking for. Gbat | |||
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"I see BBC have pulled MasterChef Christmas specials. Its not clear whether this are already filmed or currently in prodcuction. I've never watched anything with him in it as cooking programs are not my thing. Give me something with bikes and babes in. I suspect someone will get bent out of shape with that last statement - tough shit! By cancelling programs, BBC are caving into the woke culture. They've sat on the fence about it and today changed their mind about broadcasting MasterChef. Innocent until proven guilty. Cancelling him sends a clear message, we believe this happened etc etc. Trial by journalism. In these situations and circumstances, women have all the power. There may be something in it, there may not be. A guy where I used to work regularly flirted with the ladies, would chat them up and compliment them etc and it was mostly reciprocated and all done in good humour. If someone didn't engage in chat, he would take that as a sign they weren't interested or were shy etc but would leave them be. Others would actively engaged in banter, Someone made a complaint of sexual harrassment because he'd commented on a dress complimenting a womens figures. This woman had arrived at work in an off the shoulder tight black dress. She was going to a Christmas party straight from work. She was a size 6/8 with the body of a supermodel. Every head in the office turned, mine incuded. She clearly wanted to get a reaction and was wearing it to be looked at. I'd heard this woman actively engage in banter with my mate, she even asked him once if he could see the outline of her thong through her skirt! Now for whatever reason this women got upset, maybe she realised he was complimenting women in the same way? However, you imagine the scenario above at your work place and many years later someone says they were sexually harassed because of a compliment about a dress/figure. As for my mate, all got dropped, especially when HR that she'd been as flirty as he'd been. I had a shitty office job then and still have a different but shitty office job now. I don't even make eye contact with women and I'm not joking. " ------------------------------------------ You're coming across as a 'man of a certain age'. | |||
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"I see BBC have pulled MasterChef Christmas specials. Its not clear whether this are already filmed or currently in prodcuction. I've never watched anything with him in it as cooking programs are not my thing. Give me something with bikes and babes in. I suspect someone will get bent out of shape with that last statement - tough shit! By cancelling programs, BBC are caving into the woke culture. They've sat on the fence about it and today changed their mind about broadcasting MasterChef. Innocent until proven guilty. Cancelling him sends a clear message, we believe this happened etc etc. Trial by journalism. In these situations and circumstances, women have all the power. There may be something in it, there may not be. A guy where I used to work regularly flirted with the ladies, would chat them up and compliment them etc and it was mostly reciprocated and all done in good humour. If someone didn't engage in chat, he would take that as a sign they weren't interested or were shy etc but would leave them be. Others would actively engaged in banter, Someone made a complaint of sexual harrassment because he'd commented on a dress complimenting a womens figures. This woman had arrived at work in an off the shoulder tight black dress. She was going to a Christmas party straight from work. She was a size 6/8 with the body of a supermodel. Every head in the office turned, mine incuded. She clearly wanted to get a reaction and was wearing it to be looked at. I'd heard this woman actively engage in banter with my mate, she even asked him once if he could see the outline of her thong through her skirt! Now for whatever reason this women got upset, maybe she realised he was complimenting women in the same way? However, you imagine the scenario above at your work place and many years later someone says they were sexually harassed because of a compliment about a dress/figure. As for my mate, all got dropped, especially when HR that she'd been as flirty as he'd been. I had a shitty office job then and still have a different but shitty office job now. I don't even make eye contact with women and I'm not joking. " One of the last times the BBC did nothing we got a Jimmy Sav situation. Let's not go down that road again shall we. | |||
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"I see BBC have pulled MasterChef Christmas specials. Its not clear whether this are already filmed or currently in prodcuction. I've never watched anything with him in it as cooking programs are not my thing. Give me something with bikes and babes in. I suspect someone will get bent out of shape with that last statement - tough shit! By cancelling programs, BBC are caving into the woke culture. They've sat on the fence about it and today changed their mind about broadcasting MasterChef. Innocent until proven guilty. Cancelling him sends a clear message, we believe this happened etc etc. Trial by journalism. In these situations and circumstances, women have all the power. There may be something in it, there may not be. A guy where I used to work regularly flirted with the ladies, would chat them up and compliment them etc and it was mostly reciprocated and all done in good humour. If someone didn't engage in chat, he would take that as a sign they weren't interested or were shy etc but would leave them be. Others would actively engaged in banter, Someone made a complaint of sexual harrassment because he'd commented on a dress complimenting a womens figures. This woman had arrived at work in an off the shoulder tight black dress. She was going to a Christmas party straight from work. She was a size 6/8 with the body of a supermodel. Every head in the office turned, mine incuded. She clearly wanted to get a reaction and was wearing it to be looked at. I'd heard this woman actively engage in banter with my mate, she even asked him once if he could see the outline of her thong through her skirt! Now for whatever reason this women got upset, maybe she realised he was complimenting women in the same way? However, you imagine the scenario above at your work place and many years later someone says they were sexually harassed because of a compliment about a dress/figure. As for my mate, all got dropped, especially when HR that she'd been as flirty as he'd been. I had a shitty office job then and still have a different but shitty office job now. I don't even make eye contact with women and I'm not joking. " How do you know she clearly wanted a reaction? | |||
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"Geezer wall of text How do you know she clearly wanted a reaction? " The dress was asking for it Nanna! You know this. | |||
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"Are the allegations only from celebs? I watched tonights episode and considered there are about 50-60 contestants a year and Wallace has been in it nearly 20 years so around 1000 people. But only a handful have complained and only in the last week since Wark complained he made a joke (although the video of her in the competition shows her and Wallace getting on very well)" 17 complaints is a large number. In normal business, you'd be in hot water. As for Kirsty, it's showbusiness, and she'll just get the job done. She stated she complained immediately afterwards | |||
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"The attitude of some men on this topic, whilst completely unsurprising, is a disgrace. A complete and utter disgrace." It makes me ashamed to be a man actually! | |||
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"Are the allegations only from celebs? I watched tonights episode and considered there are about 50-60 contestants a year and Wallace has been in it nearly 20 years so around 1000 people. But only a handful have complained and only in the last week since Wark complained he made a joke (although the video of her in the competition shows her and Wallace getting on very well) 17 complaints is a large number. In normal business, you'd be in hot water. As for Kirsty, it's showbusiness, and she'll just get the job done. She stated she complained immediately afterwards "And I (and thousands of other men) work with, deal with, walk past hundreds of women on a daily basis and have not had any kind of negative response or consequence to interactions because we don't make them inappropriate in the first place. 17 is a huge number within the workplace, regardless of the ratio or percentage in terms of actual women being inappropriate to (allegedly) it's a fucking massive number. | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? I was assaulted and had to visit the police about 5 times. Case got thrown out due to him talking bollocks for nine hours. You wouldn't go threw all that interrogation unless it was real. Talk to any victims of sexual assault. Who do you mean? You having to visit the police five times or him being interrogated for nine hours? Your pleasant chats with supportive officers over a cup of tea does not compare to his interrogation (as he was proved/found innocent)" Someone tells you they've been assaulted and that's how you respond? Wow... | |||
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And I (and thousands of other men) work with, deal with, walk past hundreds of women on a daily basis and have not had any kind of negative response or consequence to interactions because we don't make them inappropriate in the first place.
17 is a huge number within the workplace, regardless of the ratio or percentage in terms of actual women being inappropriate to (allegedly) it's a fucking massive number. "Yep. 17 complaints would normally see you exiting the business. Probably at complaint 1. Think of it like this. If you had a daughter, would you be happy if a man was making derogatory comments, or inappropriate acts towards her? | |||
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo? I was assaulted and had to visit the police about 5 times. Case got thrown out due to him talking bollocks for nine hours. You wouldn't go threw all that interrogation unless it was real. Talk to any victims of sexual assault. Who do you mean? You having to visit the police five times or him being interrogated for nine hours? Your pleasant chats with supportive officers over a cup of tea does not compare to his interrogation (as he was proved/found innocent) Someone tells you they've been assaulted and that's how you respond? Wow..." I had to bite my tongue... | |||
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"Gregg Wallace’s departure from MasterChef has certainly stirred the pot—let’s hope the investigation doesn’t leave his career overcooked!" Mr Ha ha.... "  | |||
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"What an utter twat, he has well and truly soiled his own nest now, have never taken to the bloke always thought he was way to far up his backside." well said, he's a totally un talented twat paid too much for being a snug cunt with a little bit of power. The BBC need to cancel his contract now. | |||
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"Are the allegations only from celebs? I watched tonights episode and considered there are about 50-60 contestants a year and Wallace has been in it nearly 20 years so around 1000 people. But only a handful have complained and only in the last week since Wark complained he made a joke (although the video of her in the competition shows her and Wallace getting on very well) 17 complaints is a large number. In normal business, you'd be in hot water. As for Kirsty, it's showbusiness, and she'll just get the job done. She stated she complained immediately afterwards
And I (and thousands of other men) work with, deal with, walk past hundreds of women on a daily basis and have not had any kind of negative response or consequence to interactions because we don't make them inappropriate in the first place.
17 is a huge number within the workplace, regardless of the ratio or percentage in terms of actual women being inappropriate to (allegedly) it's a fucking massive number.
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"He has been around for years and no reports then suddenly lots of them. I am always suspicious of such bandwagons, how many are genuine, how many looking for compo?" ---------------------- ...and yet John Torode has managed to navigate his years on the show without similar complaints being made about him. | |||
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"If you want sexual innuendo watch Laura woods on bt whipping Rio Ferdinand with her coat belt he looks so uncomfortable but no mention of it anywhere!! " He should have made a complaint. | |||
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"This thread has allowed us to block a couple of obvious misogynists "Yes! This is a swinging site and it goes to show how many people are here without any respect to the principles of swinging which includes consent and the redressing of the power balance between men and women. Some of these comments are vile | |||
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"BBC must take a certain amount of blame being an effective public sector employer who it would appear employed a misogynist. " -------------------------- He wasn't directly employed by the BBC, they bought Masterchef, created by an independent company. | |||
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"Are the allegations only from celebs? I watched tonights episode and considered there are about 50-60 contestants a year and Wallace has been in it nearly 20 years so around 1000 people. But only a handful have complained and only in the last week since Wark complained he made a joke (although the video of her in the competition shows her and Wallace getting on very well) Wtf does it matter how many women have complained? The fact they felt the need to complain says everything about him" A tiny percentage of oversensitive, menopausal bints does not make a man guilty. Get over it | |||
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"BBC must take a certain amount of blame being an effective public sector employer who it would appear employed a misogynist. -------------------------- He wasn't directly employed by the BBC, they bought Masterchef, created by an independent company." Directly or otherwise and coupled with so many others the bbc have employed with similar and worse. | |||
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"BBC must take a certain amount of blame being an effective public sector employer who it would appear employed a misogynist. -------------------------- He wasn't directly employed by the BBC, they bought Masterchef, created by an independent company." Yes. But now Wallace, preceded by Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris, Gary Glitter. BBC cannot claim they are at arms length Jeremy Clarkson, top gear a few years back driving around inside bbc hq in a 60’s microcar - on Fiona Bruce he saw ‘ she has got a nice arse’ | |||
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"BBC must take a certain amount of blame being an effective public sector employer who it would appear employed a misogynist. -------------------------- He wasn't directly employed by the BBC, they bought Masterchef, created by an independent company. Yes. But now Wallace, preceded by Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris, Gary Glitter. BBC cannot claim they are at arms length Jeremy Clarkson, top gear a few years back driving around inside bbc hq in a 60’s microcar - on Fiona Bruce he saw ‘ she has got a nice arse’ " Ben Thomas Huw Edwards Systematic cover ups at bbc. | |||
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"Are the allegations only from celebs? I watched tonights episode and considered there are about 50-60 contestants a year and Wallace has been in it nearly 20 years so around 1000 people. But only a handful have complained and only in the last week since Wark complained he made a joke (although the video of her in the competition shows her and Wallace getting on very well) Wtf does it matter how many women have complained? The fact they felt the need to complain says everything about him A tiny percentage of oversensitive, menopausal bints does not make a man guilty. Get over it" You have strong views about what people should or shouldn’t be upset about in their interactions with others. Over time, has your opinion become more or less dismissive of those who raise concerns? | |||
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"Are the allegations only from celebs? I watched tonights episode and considered there are about 50-60 contestants a year and Wallace has been in it nearly 20 years so around 1000 people. But only a handful have complained and only in the last week since Wark complained he made a joke (although the video of her in the competition shows her and Wallace getting on very well) Wtf does it matter how many women have complained? The fact they felt the need to complain says everything about him A tiny percentage of oversensitive, menopausal bints does not make a man guilty. Get over it You have strong views about what people should or shouldn’t be upset about in their interactions with others. Over time, has your opinion become more or less dismissive of those who raise concerns?" Have you read the allegations? They appear made up or very minor but many people here and in general seem determined to hang the guy out to dry. How about questioning their "strong views"? Yes, he may have done this but there have been many cases where the allegations were found to be untrue. Look at the Beech case, many lives ruined based on lies. | |||
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"Are the allegations only from celebs? I watched tonights episode and considered there are about 50-60 contestants a year and Wallace has been in it nearly 20 years so around 1000 people. But only a handful have complained and only in the last week since Wark complained he made a joke (although the video of her in the competition shows her and Wallace getting on very well) Wtf does it matter how many women have complained? The fact they felt the need to complain says everything about him A tiny percentage of oversensitive, menopausal bints does not make a man guilty. Get over it You have strong views about what people should or shouldn’t be upset about in their interactions with others. Over time, has your opinion become more or less dismissive of those who raise concerns? Have you read the allegations? They appear made up or very minor but many people here and in general seem determined to hang the guy out to dry. How about questioning their "strong views"? Yes, he may have done this but there have been many cases where the allegations were found to be untrue. Look at the Beech case, many lives ruined based on lies. " I'm not questioning the legitimacy of the accusations because right now I have no way of knowing who is telling the truth, and I can say the same to those who as you point out have found him guilty. If you look back on your posts you must see a trend, as you question the integrity of the people making these accusations. | |||
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"BBC must take a certain amount of blame being an effective public sector employer who it would appear employed a misogynist. -------------------------- He wasn't directly employed by the BBC, they bought Masterchef, created by an independent company. Yes. But now Wallace, preceded by Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris, Gary Glitter. BBC cannot claim they are at arms length Jeremy Clarkson, top gear a few years back driving around inside bbc hq in a 60’s microcar - on Fiona Bruce he saw ‘ she has got a nice arse’ " __________________________________________ I agree but these programmes could have been commissioned by any broadcasting company, do you think ITV or C4 would have turned down Masterchef if it had been offered to them, in which case Wallace would have appeared on another channel. | |||
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"BBC must take a certain amount of blame being an effective public sector employer who it would appear employed a misogynist. -------------------------- He wasn't directly employed by the BBC, they bought Masterchef, created by an independent company. Directly or otherwise and coupled with so many others the bbc have employed with similar and worse. " ____________________________________________ What do you think makes the BBC unique in having to address these issues? | |||
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"If he's not done for his attitude inuendo on TV and other crap it just makes s mockery. Lorraine Kelly lifted Ben Shephards kilt on TV as a prank. She should have been repremanded for that. " He has made more than a few lude comments. How can he ‘ get done’, off air yes. If it transpires assault has occurred he’ll may get prosecuted | |||
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"If you want sexual innuendo watch Laura woods on bt whipping Rio Ferdinand with her coat belt he looks so uncomfortable but no mention of it anywhere!! " He can complain if he wants to. Are you saying that because a man didn’t complain, then women shouldn’t? Gbat | |||
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"What an utter twat, he has well and truly soiled his own nest now, have never taken to the bloke always thought he was way to far up his backside. Its a Witch hunt , women complaining their are upset by a sexualised joke. " So you considered this a joke? At another meeting for the book, Kyle said that, during a restaurant meal, the TV presenter made other sexualised comments, including: “If you won't let me sleep with you, would you lick my [anus]?" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy47dz8yp4vo.amp | |||
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"What an utter twat, he has well and truly soiled his own nest now, have never taken to the bloke always thought he was way to far up his backside. Its a Witch hunt , women complaining their are upset by a sexualised joke. So you considered this a joke? At another meeting for the book, Kyle said that, during a restaurant meal, the TV presenter made other sexualised comments, including: “If you won't let me sleep with you, would you lick my [anus]?" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy47dz8yp4vo.amp I really don’t think you would understand any joke. X Shall we start a go fund page for these women in trauma ? Let’s forget about the crisis in the world like the wars in Israel/ Ukraine, "Oh dear, linking war to this to try and close it down 🤣🤣🤣 | |||
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"What an utter twat, he has well and truly soiled his own nest now, have never taken to the bloke always thought he was way to far up his backside. Its a Witch hunt , women complaining their are upset by a sexualised joke. So you considered this a joke? At another meeting for the book, Kyle said that, during a restaurant meal, the TV presenter made other sexualised comments, including: “If you won't let me sleep with you, would you lick my [anus]?" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy47dz8yp4vo.amp I really don’t think you would understand any joke. X Shall we start a go fund page for these women in trauma ? Let’s forget about the crisis in the world like the wars in Israel/ Ukraine,
Oh dear, linking war to this to try and close it down 🤣🤣🤣"No just putting is into perspective, its deflection and your falling of it. | |||
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"What an utter twat, he has well and truly soiled his own nest now, have never taken to the bloke always thought he was way to far up his backside. Its a Witch hunt , women complaining their are upset by a sexualised joke. So you considered this a joke? At another meeting for the book, Kyle said that, during a restaurant meal, the TV presenter made other sexualised comments, including: “If you won't let me sleep with you, would you lick my [anus]?" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy47dz8yp4vo.amp I really don’t think you would understand any joke. X Shall we start a go fund page for these women in trauma ? Let’s forget about the crisis in the world like the wars in Israel/ Ukraine,
Oh dear, linking war to this to try and close it down 🤣🤣🤣
No just putting is into perspective, its deflection and your falling of it. "So you think what he said was a joke? | |||
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"What an utter twat, he has well and truly soiled his own nest now, have never taken to the bloke always thought he was way to far up his backside. Its a Witch hunt , women complaining their are upset by a sexualised joke. So you considered this a joke? At another meeting for the book, Kyle said that, during a restaurant meal, the TV presenter made other sexualised comments, including: “If you won't let me sleep with you, would you lick my [anus]?" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy47dz8yp4vo.amp I really don’t think you would understand any joke. X Shall we start a go fund page for these women in trauma ? Let’s forget about the crisis in the world like the wars in Israel/ Ukraine,
Oh dear, linking war to this to try and close it down 🤣🤣🤣
No just putting is into perspective, its deflection and your falling of it.
So you think what he said was a joke?"I really can’t care less, lots of women in media say many misandrist statements and says it humour. | |||
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"What an utter twat, he has well and truly soiled his own nest now, have never taken to the bloke always thought he was way to far up his backside. Its a Witch hunt , women complaining their are upset by a sexualised joke. So you considered this a joke? At another meeting for the book, Kyle said that, during a restaurant meal, the TV presenter made other sexualised comments, including: “If you won't let me sleep with you, would you lick my [anus]?" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy47dz8yp4vo.amp I really don’t think you would understand any joke. X Shall we start a go fund page for these women in trauma ? Let’s forget about the crisis in the world like the wars in Israel/ Ukraine,
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No just putting is into perspective, its deflection and your falling of it.
So you think what he said was a joke?
I really can’t care less, lots of women in media say many misandrist statements and says it humour. "Here is the problem, where is the line that should not be crossed. It is going to be a moving line and obviously there will be extremes. If you went to see a sharp tongued comedian that was renowned for being crude and picking on people in the audience, it is safe to say being there and knowing this is the act you might be on the receiving end of something rude and crude. If you then went to a restaurant and that same comedian said something rude and crude to you, that is not okay. What Wallace is being accused of appears to be the similar in terms of expectation, people would not expect him to be rude and crude in a 1-2-1 after watching him on his TV shows, so it would have come as a rather big shock I would imagine. If the accusations are proved to be accurate he has clearly crossed a line of decency. I'm not sure if people are trying to support his behaviour, or they are angry at how long it has taken to surface and the floodgates opening after that. | |||
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"I hate the media and the people who judge before knowing all the facts. It can destroy people's lives! Someone made a false allegation about me when I was 14, it took 19 months to prove I was innocent through multiple fuck ups in the system. The media was fast to report on the case, wasn't so fast to report the outcome. 99% of people decided I was guilty before a single court appearance. The damage was done! I still feel it to this day. Somehow I am still here but for the love I tried not to be! 11 years of therapy, 11 years of turning against the system because of how it failed me. I got lost in said system, that young boy died that day. All because people like to make their own judgements before knowing the facts. Wait for the facts and shame on anyone who doesn't. Jay" This and Fab is one if the worst places fir gossip.... "this is confidential" "I shouldn't be saying this, but" "you know what I heard" ...and of course they walk away into the mist as soon as they throw the attention seeking grenade, and the real perpetrator of the rumours quickly get forgotten as others then spread what they heard or read until its accepted as truth and long term damage is done. | |||
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"^^ agreed. Gossip and rumour mongering is nothing new but the internet has given it a power it didn't have before. " Which can be a good thing and a bad thing, it just depends on the person using the internet. | |||
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"^^ agreed. Gossip and rumour mongering is nothing new but the internet has given it a power it didn't have before. Which can be a good thing and a bad thing, it just depends on the person using the internet." Its usually based on hearsay and third and fourth hand information. I can't think of any examples of it being a good thing. | |||
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"^^ agreed. Gossip and rumour mongering is nothing new but the internet has given it a power it didn't have before. Which can be a good thing and a bad thing, it just depends on the person using the internet. Its usually based on hearsay and third and fourth hand information. I can't think of any examples of it being a good thing. " I agree with the above and that is the bad side, but this is about multiple women making claims of harassment. It's not gossip, it's accusations that are being looked into. | |||
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"What an utter twat, he has well and truly soiled his own nest now, have never taken to the bloke always thought he was way to far up his backside. Its a Witch hunt , women complaining their are upset by a sexualised joke. So you considered this a joke? At another meeting for the book, Kyle said that, during a restaurant meal, the TV presenter made other sexualised comments, including: “If you won't let me sleep with you, would you lick my [anus]?" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy47dz8yp4vo.amp I really don’t think you would understand any joke. X Shall we start a go fund page for these women in trauma ? Let’s forget about the crisis in the world like the wars in Israel/ Ukraine,
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No just putting is into perspective, its deflection and your falling of it.
So you think what he said was a joke?
I really can’t care less, lots of women in media say many misandrist statements and says it humour.
Here is the problem, where is the line that should not be crossed. It is going to be a moving line and obviously there will be extremes. If you went to see a sharp tongued comedian that was renowned for being crude and picking on people in the audience, it is safe to say being there and knowing this is the act you might be on the receiving end of something rude and crude. If you then went to a restaurant and that same comedian said something rude and crude to you, that is not okay.
What Wallace is being accused of appears to be the similar in terms of expectation, people would not expect him to be rude and crude in a 1-2-1 after watching him on his TV shows, so it would have come as a rather big shock I would imagine.
If the accusations are proved to be accurate he has clearly crossed a line of decency. I'm not sure if people are trying to support his behaviour, or they are angry at how long it has taken to surface and the floodgates opening after that.
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"^^ agreed. Gossip and rumour mongering is nothing new but the internet has given it a power it didn't have before. Which can be a good thing and a bad thing, it just depends on the person using the internet. Its usually based on hearsay and third and fourth hand information. I can't think of any examples of it being a good thing. I agree with the above and that is the bad side, but this is about multiple women making claims of harassment. It's not gossip, it's accusations that are being looked into." Let burn him and be done with it;) | |||
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"^^ agreed. Gossip and rumour mongering is nothing new but the internet has given it a power it didn't have before. Which can be a good thing and a bad thing, it just depends on the person using the internet. Its usually based on hearsay and third and fourth hand information. I can't think of any examples of it being a good thing. I agree with the above and that is the bad side, but this is about multiple women making claims of harassment. It's not gossip, it's accusations that are being looked into." The contents of this thread contain a lot of gossip and hearsay. The claims being made by the women are accounts of their experiences. To me they're very different things | |||
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"^^ agreed. Gossip and rumour mongering is nothing new but the internet has given it a power it didn't have before. Which can be a good thing and a bad thing, it just depends on the person using the internet. Its usually based on hearsay and third and fourth hand information. I can't think of any examples of it being a good thing. I agree with the above and that is the bad side, but this is about multiple women making claims of harassment. It's not gossip, it's accusations that are being looked into. The contents of this thread contain a lot of gossip and hearsay. The claims being made by the women are accounts of their experiences. To me they're very different things " I agree gossip and hearsay are very different from allegations and should be treated accordingly. The below article mentions what the allegations are. https://news.sky.com/story/gregg-wallace-what-are-the-allegations-and-what-has-he-said-13262845 | |||
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"^^ agreed. Gossip and rumour mongering is nothing new but the internet has given it a power it didn't have before. Which can be a good thing and a bad thing, it just depends on the person using the internet. Its usually based on hearsay and third and fourth hand information. I can't think of any examples of it being a good thing. I agree with the above and that is the bad side, but this is about multiple women making claims of harassment. It's not gossip, it's accusations that are being looked into. The contents of this thread contain a lot of gossip and hearsay. The claims being made by the women are accounts of their experiences. To me they're very different things " Agreed | |||
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"Thinking back to alot of my time in the workplace the banter yes some of it sexual innuendo's from both men n alot of women we would be linched in today's society. I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 10 to 15 years humour or joking of any sort will be banned in the workplace." I've never heard the ..if you don't f### me then lick my a##.... Joke at work. | |||
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"Thinking back to alot of my time in the workplace the banter yes some of it sexual innuendo's from both men n alot of women we would be linched in today's society. I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 10 to 15 years humour or joking of any sort will be banned in the workplace. I've never heard the ..if you don't f### me then lick my a##.... Joke at work." I think you need to get a better job | |||
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"Thinking back to alot of my time in the workplace the banter yes some of it sexual innuendo's from both men n alot of women we would be linched in today's society. I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 10 to 15 years humour or joking of any sort will be banned in the workplace. I've never heard the ..if you don't f### me then lick my a##.... Joke at work. I think you need to get a better job "I don't think that would be bettering myself, I save that for other times 😉 | |||
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"Thinking back to alot of my time in the workplace the banter yes some of it sexual innuendo's from both men n alot of women we would be linched in today's society. I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 10 to 15 years humour or joking of any sort will be banned in the workplace." Banter has a definition, not sure any of what's been alleged fits it.. | |||
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"I read Roy Chubby Brown is Greg’s replacement. " No way, what does that guy know about au jus? However, I do think he might be able to help candu out with the punchline to the joke they’ve never heard of… | |||
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"I read Roy Chubby Brown is Greg’s replacement. No way, what does that guy know about au jus? However, I do think he might be able to help candu out with the punchline to the joke they’ve never heard of…" Chubby is to busy throwing away his crumpets and ready brek. | |||
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"Thinking back to alot of my time in the workplace the banter yes some of it sexual innuendo's from both men n alot of women we would be linched in today's society. I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 10 to 15 years humour or joking of any sort will be banned in the workplace." Email has already been sent out..way before this happened,along with a radio ban.. | |||
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"Thinking back to alot of my time in the workplace the banter yes some of it sexual innuendo's from both men n alot of women we would be linched in today's society. I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 10 to 15 years humour or joking of any sort will be banned in the workplace. Email has already been sent out..way before this happened,along with a radio ban.. "It's not banter and why you are even mentioning a radio ban on a thread about this subject is beyond comprehension. There are many allegations of inappropriate sexual behaviour over many years. It has nothing to do with banter or a radio ban. | |||
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"Thinking back to alot of my time in the workplace the banter yes some of it sexual innuendo's from both men n alot of women we would be linched in today's society. I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 10 to 15 years humour or joking of any sort will be banned in the workplace. Email has already been sent out..way before this happened,along with a radio ban..
It's not banter and why you are even mentioning a radio ban on a thread about this subject is beyond comprehension. There are many allegations of inappropriate sexual behaviour over many years. It has nothing to do with banter or a radio ban."Sticks and stones will break my bone , but there will always be something that offend a feminist  | |||
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"Thinking back to alot of my time in the workplace the banter yes some of it sexual innuendo's from both men n alot of women we would be linched in today's society. I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 10 to 15 years humour or joking of any sort will be banned in the workplace. Email has already been sent out..way before this happened,along with a radio ban..
It's not banter and why you are even mentioning a radio ban on a thread about this subject is beyond comprehension. There are many allegations of inappropriate sexual behaviour over many years. It has nothing to do with banter or a radio ban.
Sticks and stones will break my bone , but there will always be something that offend a feminist "Genuine question, what's this got to do with feminists? | |||
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"Thinking back to alot of my time in the workplace the banter yes some of it sexual innuendo's from both men n alot of women we would be linched in today's society. I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 10 to 15 years humour or joking of any sort will be banned in the workplace. Email has already been sent out..way before this happened,along with a radio ban..
It's not banter and why you are even mentioning a radio ban on a thread about this subject is beyond comprehension. There are many allegations of inappropriate sexual behaviour over many years. It has nothing to do with banter or a radio ban.
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"What an utter twat, he has well and truly soiled his own nest now, have never taken to the bloke always thought he was way to far up his backside." I don't know him, he means nothing to me and I lose no sleep over who ever he is Plus; I do not pay TV License so no cash of mine goes in his pocket | |||
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"Sticks and stones will break my bone , but there will always be something that offend a feminist "If it's genuinely offensive, then it doesn't matter if someone is a feminist or not does it? Gbat | |||
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