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" Is this self defence or theft of land and homes. " Assuming that it's true... It is the appropriation of land to assert military control and dominance. In the same way as any army sets up bases or structures in any region. The term "annex" is interesting in this context, given Gaza's status generally and the level of "ownership" resulting from this action. Russia annexed Crimea - it is now, to all intents and purposes, Russia. Popping military structures somewhere is not actually annexing anything. Under international law, annexation is when one country forcibly asserts control and sovereignty over another country's territory. There is no change of sovereignty here, as opposed to, say, the Golan Heights. So whereas it's correct to say that Israel has annexed the Golan Heights, this is different (unless something changes). It would be difficult to see any benefit to Israel in annexing any part of Gaza. The downside is much greater than any upside, beyond some cheap political points with some fringe (but loud and amplified) right-wingers. | |||
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"I wonder what it is like to enter Gaza today, would it be littered with the bodies of dead women and children. Those mothers and fathers who will never have children of their own to further their population. To annex Gaza would all these bodies have to be buried or burned first. To annex gaza, would the rubble have to be moved uncovering those who died in the rubble. We will never know now how many women and children were killed sorry died is the newspeak, because Gaza is being annexed so in Israeli control, so no independent sources to revel the truth." Gaza must be terrible right now, Mrs x | |||
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"I wonder what it is like to enter Gaza today, would it be littered with the bodies of dead women and children. Those mothers and fathers who will never have children of their own to further their population. To annex Gaza would all these bodies have to be buried or burned first. To annex gaza, would the rubble have to be moved uncovering those who died in the rubble. We will never know now how many women and children were killed sorry died is the newspeak, because Gaza is being annexed so in Israeli control, so no independent sources to revel the truth.Gaza must be terrible right now, Mrs x" Gaza must be all those murdered people just because Hamas are using them as human shields but there is no other way is there those women and children must be murdered so Hamas can be defeated. Hey it is those women and children fault actually as they know Hamas hide amongst them and did not attack Hamas themselves, they should get sticks and stones and throw them at the armed Hamas fighters and tell them to leave maybe if they did that so many wouldn't have been murdered. Now Israel can annex Gaza and build resorts, if they are any Palestinians left Israel can give them jobs like the 2million Palestinians I have been told by yourself work in Israel. At least they will be a silver lining for some A! | |||
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"I wonder what it is like to enter Gaza today, would it be littered with the bodies of dead women and children. Those mothers and fathers who will never have children of their own to further their population. To annex Gaza would all these bodies have to be buried or burned first. To annex gaza, would the rubble have to be moved uncovering those who died in the rubble. We will never know now how many women and children were killed sorry died is the newspeak, because Gaza is being annexed so in Israeli control, so no independent sources to revel the truth." what is been done in Gaza is horrible but that’s exactly what hamas want to do in Israel | |||
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"I wonder what it is like to enter Gaza today, would it be littered with the bodies of dead women and children. Those mothers and fathers who will never have children of their own to further their population. To annex Gaza would all these bodies have to be buried or burned first. To annex gaza, would the rubble have to be moved uncovering those who died in the rubble. We will never know now how many women and children were killed sorry died is the newspeak, because Gaza is being annexed so in Israeli control, so no independent sources to revel the truth.what is been done in Gaza is horrible but that’s exactly what hamas want to do in Israel " So I have been told, so of course it makes it right to slaughter Palestinians in their thousands, who are mainly women and children. The only block I see is the world population objecting except for a few, and the glaring fact that part of the definition of genocide is leaving a population without the means to repopulate itself, but we will get around that with USA support. Israel has the right to defend itself, including acting in sovereign territories flouting international law and detonating bombs in public spaces murdering civilians. Now we can annex Gaza and let Israelis live their in peace. | |||
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"I wonder what it is like to enter Gaza today, would it be littered with the bodies of dead women and children. Those mothers and fathers who will never have children of their own to further their population. To annex Gaza would all these bodies have to be buried or burned first. To annex gaza, would the rubble have to be moved uncovering those who died in the rubble. We will never know now how many women and children were killed sorry died is the newspeak, because Gaza is being annexed so in Israeli control, so no independent sources to revel the truth.Gaza must be terrible right now, Mrs x Gaza must be all those murdered people just because Hamas are using them as human shields but there is no other way is there those women and children must be murdered so Hamas can be defeated. Hey it is those women and children fault actually as they know Hamas hide amongst them and did not attack Hamas themselves, they should get sticks and stones and throw them at the armed Hamas fighters and tell them to leave maybe if they did that so many wouldn't have been murdered. Now Israel can annex Gaza and build resorts, if they are any Palestinians left Israel can give them jobs like the 2million Palestinians I have been told by yourself work in Israel. At least they will be a silver lining for some A!" What's happened in Gaza is terrible. It's terrible because it could have been avoided. People made choices and it's led them to here. Gazans voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation committed to the genocide of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state. Like any manifesto the electorate knew this, so by voting them in they too must have wanted this or at the very least have been ambivalent towards this. Imagine, if you can it went well for Hamas, every Jew in the Middle East is dead, Israel is wiped off the map. Now look at the reactions of the countries in the surrounding areas, what would their reaction be? Would they be outraged, sympathetic to the Jewish plight? No they'd all be in the streets, shooting into the air, cheering and dancing, Gazans included. So back to today and it's not going so well for Hamas and Gaza. If only they had thought of a different approach then maybe the outcome would have been different. But they didn't, in fact the first decision they made, on the day Israel removed all their citizens from Gaza, was to launch over 2,000 rockets into Israel. Their intentions have been clear from day one. Israel has, at different times, full control over Gaza. If they wanted to they needn't have left, if they wanted to they could have easily done what you are accusing them of trying to do today. But they didn't did they, they gave Gaza back and recieved over 2,000 rockets fired back at them on the first day. Maybe Hamas should have thought what this might achieve. As for the people uprising, that's not unimaginable. Tons of dictators and oppressive regimes have been removed by the uprising of the oppressed. Yet Gaza can't do that apparently because, well I don't know and you certainly don't, not when millions of oppressed have done this throughout history. And the Palestinians don't just work in Israel, they live there are citizens of Israel. Why would they choose to do this but you can't answer this simple question because it gets in the way of the narrative of your story. The silver lining in all of this is that Israel may wipe Hamas off the face of the earth, free the oppressed Gazans to hopefully make better political decisions in the future. Mrs x | |||
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"I wonder what it is like to enter Gaza today, would it be littered with the bodies of dead women and children. Those mothers and fathers who will never have children of their own to further their population. To annex Gaza would all these bodies have to be buried or burned first. To annex gaza, would the rubble have to be moved uncovering those who died in the rubble. We will never know now how many women and children were killed sorry died is the newspeak, because Gaza is being annexed so in Israeli control, so no independent sources to revel the truth.Gaza must be terrible right now, Mrs x Gaza must be all those murdered people just because Hamas are using them as human shields but there is no other way is there those women and children must be murdered so Hamas can be defeated. Hey it is those women and children fault actually as they know Hamas hide amongst them and did not attack Hamas themselves, they should get sticks and stones and throw them at the armed Hamas fighters and tell them to leave maybe if they did that so many wouldn't have been murdered. Now Israel can annex Gaza and build resorts, if they are any Palestinians left Israel can give them jobs like the 2million Palestinians I have been told by yourself work in Israel. At least they will be a silver lining for some A! What's happened in Gaza is terrible. It's terrible because it could have been avoided. People made choices and it's led them to here. Gazans voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation committed to the genocide of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state. Like any manifesto the electorate knew this, so by voting them in they too must have wanted this or at the very least have been ambivalent towards this. Imagine, if you can it went well for Hamas, every Jew in the Middle East is dead, Israel is wiped off the map. Now look at the reactions of the countries in the surrounding areas, what would their reaction be? Would they be outraged, sympathetic to the Jewish plight? No they'd all be in the streets, shooting into the air, cheering and dancing, Gazans included. So back to today and it's not going so well for Hamas and Gaza. If only they had thought of a different approach then maybe the outcome would have been different. But they didn't, in fact the first decision they made, on the day Israel removed all their citizens from Gaza, was to launch over 2,000 rockets into Israel. Their intentions have been clear from day one. Israel has, at different times, full control over Gaza. If they wanted to they needn't have left, if they wanted to they could have easily done what you are accusing them of trying to do today. But they didn't did they, they gave Gaza back and recieved over 2,000 rockets fired back at them on the first day. Maybe Hamas should have thought what this might achieve. As for the people uprising, that's not unimaginable. Tons of dictators and oppressive regimes have been removed by the uprising of the oppressed. Yet Gaza can't do that apparently because, well I don't know and you certainly don't, not when millions of oppressed have done this throughout history. And the Palestinians don't just work in Israel, they live there are citizens of Israel. Why would they choose to do this but you can't answer this simple question because it gets in the way of the narrative of your story. The silver lining in all of this is that Israel may wipe Hamas off the face of the earth, free the oppressed Gazans to hopefully make better political decisions in the future. Mrs x" it is as said before, your right if the population had taken what ever weapons they bare knives, sticks, boiling water whatever can defend them from the armed Hamas and kicked them out but they didn't so should pay the price just like Hamas with their lives children who have no understanding of the situation (they just know their whole family is dead) are just as complicit as they should put their children first. when a country puts up with one dictator and not another then money or assets or utilities are the reason. example saddam gadaffi when they stopped giving there were then dictators. But I understand let Israel carry on murdering as their are others who are not brought to account. In South Africa the people under segregation worked and were citizens the issue was as we now know it was their country and they took it back, they were also called terrorists. their is your answer. I am like you it is horrible what is happening but you have convinced me that Hamas are murdering Palestinians and it is their fault they are being now murdered enmass, yeh they should have thought it through, when in an open air camp and being offered a vote, but you said once Hamas frightened the population by violence to vote for them and continued to threaten to keep in power, now its the population fault but hey ho everyone has the right to change thought or keep up with the latest newspeak. Well at least the percentage may ride a little with me in your camp. | |||
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"I wonder what it is like to enter Gaza today, would it be littered with the bodies of dead women and children. Those mothers and fathers who will never have children of their own to further their population. To annex Gaza would all these bodies have to be buried or burned first. To annex gaza, would the rubble have to be moved uncovering those who died in the rubble. We will never know now how many women and children were killed sorry died is the newspeak, because Gaza is being annexed so in Israeli control, so no independent sources to revel the truth.Gaza must be terrible right now, Mrs x Gaza must be all those murdered people just because Hamas are using them as human shields but there is no other way is there those women and children must be murdered so Hamas can be defeated. Hey it is those women and children fault actually as they know Hamas hide amongst them and did not attack Hamas themselves, they should get sticks and stones and throw them at the armed Hamas fighters and tell them to leave maybe if they did that so many wouldn't have been murdered. Now Israel can annex Gaza and build resorts, if they are any Palestinians left Israel can give them jobs like the 2million Palestinians I have been told by yourself work in Israel. At least they will be a silver lining for some A! What's happened in Gaza is terrible. It's terrible because it could have been avoided. People made choices and it's led them to here. Gazans voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation committed to the genocide of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state. Like any manifesto the electorate knew this, so by voting them in they too must have wanted this or at the very least have been ambivalent towards this. Imagine, if you can it went well for Hamas, every Jew in the Middle East is dead, Israel is wiped off the map. Now look at the reactions of the countries in the surrounding areas, what would their reaction be? Would they be outraged, sympathetic to the Jewish plight? No they'd all be in the streets, shooting into the air, cheering and dancing, Gazans included. So back to today and it's not going so well for Hamas and Gaza. If only they had thought of a different approach then maybe the outcome would have been different. But they didn't, in fact the first decision they made, on the day Israel removed all their citizens from Gaza, was to launch over 2,000 rockets into Israel. Their intentions have been clear from day one. Israel has, at different times, full control over Gaza. If they wanted to they needn't have left, if they wanted to they could have easily done what you are accusing them of trying to do today. But they didn't did they, they gave Gaza back and recieved over 2,000 rockets fired back at them on the first day. Maybe Hamas should have thought what this might achieve. As for the people uprising, that's not unimaginable. Tons of dictators and oppressive regimes have been removed by the uprising of the oppressed. Yet Gaza can't do that apparently because, well I don't know and you certainly don't, not when millions of oppressed have done this throughout history. And the Palestinians don't just work in Israel, they live there are citizens of Israel. Why would they choose to do this but you can't answer this simple question because it gets in the way of the narrative of your story. The silver lining in all of this is that Israel may wipe Hamas off the face of the earth, free the oppressed Gazans to hopefully make better political decisions in the future. Mrs x it is as said before, your right if the population had taken what ever weapons they bare knives, sticks, boiling water whatever can defend them from the armed Hamas and kicked them out but they didn't so should pay the price just like Hamas with their lives children who have no understanding of the situation (they just know their whole family is dead) are just as complicit as they should put their children first. when a country puts up with one dictator and not another then money or assets or utilities are the reason. example saddam gadaffi when they stopped giving there were then dictators. But I understand let Israel carry on murdering as their are others who are not brought to account. In South Africa the people under segregation worked and were citizens the issue was as we now know it was their country and they took it back, they were also called terrorists. their is your answer. I am like you it is horrible what is happening but you have convinced me that Hamas are murdering Palestinians and it is their fault they are being now murdered enmass, yeh they should have thought it through, when in an open air camp and being offered a vote, but you said once Hamas frightened the population by violence to vote for them and continued to threaten to keep in power, now its the population fault but hey ho everyone has the right to change thought or keep up with the latest newspeak. Well at least the percentage may ride a little with me in your camp." Unlike most of your rely is very odd, your analogy with South Africa is crazy. Those oppressed in South Africa had no choice, none. The Palistinians in Israel have choice, freedom, passports even. They choose to live their I'd imagine for all the benefits they recieve by living in a democratic state, 2 million of them, free to choose. One is a member of the Supreme Court, not sure there's any Jews in positions of power in Hamas. Awaiting your next response with baited breath, this should be good, Mrs x | |||
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"I wonder what it is like to enter Gaza today, would it be littered with the bodies of dead women and children. Those mothers and fathers who will never have children of their own to further their population. To annex Gaza would all these bodies have to be buried or burned first. To annex gaza, would the rubble have to be moved uncovering those who died in the rubble. We will never know now how many women and children were killed sorry died is the newspeak, because Gaza is being annexed so in Israeli control, so no independent sources to revel the truth.Gaza must be terrible right now, Mrs x Gaza must be all those murdered people just because Hamas are using them as human shields but there is no other way is there those women and children must be murdered so Hamas can be defeated. Hey it is those women and children fault actually as they know Hamas hide amongst them and did not attack Hamas themselves, they should get sticks and stones and throw them at the armed Hamas fighters and tell them to leave maybe if they did that so many wouldn't have been murdered. Now Israel can annex Gaza and build resorts, if they are any Palestinians left Israel can give them jobs like the 2million Palestinians I have been told by yourself work in Israel. At least they will be a silver lining for some A! What's happened in Gaza is terrible. It's terrible because it could have been avoided. People made choices and it's led them to here. Gazans voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation committed to the genocide of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state. Like any manifesto the electorate knew this, so by voting them in they too must have wanted this or at the very least have been ambivalent towards this. Imagine, if you can it went well for Hamas, every Jew in the Middle East is dead, Israel is wiped off the map. Now look at the reactions of the countries in the surrounding areas, what would their reaction be? Would they be outraged, sympathetic to the Jewish plight? No they'd all be in the streets, shooting into the air, cheering and dancing, Gazans included. So back to today and it's not going so well for Hamas and Gaza. If only they had thought of a different approach then maybe the outcome would have been different. But they didn't, in fact the first decision they made, on the day Israel removed all their citizens from Gaza, was to launch over 2,000 rockets into Israel. Their intentions have been clear from day one. Israel has, at different times, full control over Gaza. If they wanted to they needn't have left, if they wanted to they could have easily done what you are accusing them of trying to do today. But they didn't did they, they gave Gaza back and recieved over 2,000 rockets fired back at them on the first day. Maybe Hamas should have thought what this might achieve. As for the people uprising, that's not unimaginable. Tons of dictators and oppressive regimes have been removed by the uprising of the oppressed. Yet Gaza can't do that apparently because, well I don't know and you certainly don't, not when millions of oppressed have done this throughout history. And the Palestinians don't just work in Israel, they live there are citizens of Israel. Why would they choose to do this but you can't answer this simple question because it gets in the way of the narrative of your story. The silver lining in all of this is that Israel may wipe Hamas off the face of the earth, free the oppressed Gazans to hopefully make better political decisions in the future. Mrs x it is as said before, your right if the population had taken what ever weapons they bare knives, sticks, boiling water whatever can defend them from the armed Hamas and kicked them out but they didn't so should pay the price just like Hamas with their lives children who have no understanding of the situation (they just know their whole family is dead) are just as complicit as they should put their children first. when a country puts up with one dictator and not another then money or assets or utilities are the reason. example saddam gadaffi when they stopped giving there were then dictators. But I understand let Israel carry on murdering as their are others who are not brought to account. In South Africa the people under segregation worked and were citizens the issue was as we now know it was their country and they took it back, they were also called terrorists. their is your answer. I am like you it is horrible what is happening but you have convinced me that Hamas are murdering Palestinians and it is their fault they are being now murdered enmass, yeh they should have thought it through, when in an open air camp and being offered a vote, but you said once Hamas frightened the population by violence to vote for them and continued to threaten to keep in power, now its the population fault but hey ho everyone has the right to change thought or keep up with the latest newspeak. Well at least the percentage may ride a little with me in your camp.Unlike most of your rely is very odd, your analogy with South Africa is crazy. Those oppressed in South Africa had no choice, none. The Palistinians in Israel have choice, freedom, passports even. They choose to live their I'd imagine for all the benefits they recieve by living in a democratic state, 2 million of them, free to choose. One is a member of the Supreme Court, not sure there's any Jews in positions of power in Hamas. Awaiting your next response with baited breath, this should be good, Mrs x" Response to what, what you have wrote. You have finally changed my mind, you are right it is Hamas who are responsible for the mass murder of women and children. South Africans are not in their own country they did not live under segregation, your right I am crazy sorry. It is great that the people of Gaza have jobs working alongside Israelis it is good that they could deal with the thought of thousands of them being murders only miles away, it must be a comforting thought to be accepted into Israeli society having freedom and most importantly life, the right to drink, eat and be able to communicate with others. Hamas do not like their people they use them as human shields who threaten the population, sorry who the population voted for so it is their fault I agree. in short Israel have no choice, leave the hostages for later get Hamas first then Israel can go get them. | |||
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"40% of the population of Gaza is 14 years or younger. The median age is 18. The last election was in 2006 so I don’t think the current population can be held accountable for an election they had no involvement in." OK there's no arguing with that, but still no explanation of why those who did vote for them have done nothing about it. That's if they are against Hamas's murderous constitution but maybe they agree with it. Mrs x | |||
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" The silver lining in all of this is that Israel may wipe Hamas off the face of the earth, free the oppressed Gazans to hopefully make better political decisions in the future. Mrs x" At best Israel has done a third of the initial estimated 60k Hamas fighters. Their ranks will have swelled from relatives of the deceased and two million made homeless. 7 Oct will come again. "I think it's very easy, in fact, to recruit and regenerate, simply because there are many orphans and groups like Hamas have always recruited those orphaned in previous Israeli attacks," Joost Hiltermann, a political analyst at Crisis Group, told Euronews. | |||
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"40% of the population of Gaza is 14 years or younger. The median age is 18. The last election was in 2006 so I don’t think the current population can be held accountable for an election they had no involvement in.OK there's no arguing with that, but still no explanation of why those who did vote for them have done nothing about it. That's if they are against Hamas's murderous constitution but maybe they agree with it. Mrs x" I am afraid I have to agree Hamas are the terrorist organisation that use their own people as human shields, the gazzians should have stonedthe armed Hamas and told them to leave, because they didn't they all deserve to be murdered, killed or die which ever is the better option. And as for voting for them, they actually voted for Hamas so all should deserve to die, not only for voting for Hamas but for tolerating them. Then maybe the 2 million living in Israel can occupy Gaza and build new homes. reap what they sow I say. | |||
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"A poll released Wednesday found rising support for the Hamas terror group among Palestinians, both in the West Bank and in Gaza. The poll, conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PCPSR) between May 26 and June 1, found that overall support for Hamas in the Palestinian territories stood at 40%, a six-point increase from the previous survey three months ago. Only some 20% support the Fatah party of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, which governs Palestinian areas of the West Bank. Support for armed struggle is also on the rise, registering an overall eight-point increase compared to March. Armed struggle is considered by a little over half of Palestinians (54%) to be the preferred option to end Israeli rule and establish a Palestinian state, while only a quarter chose negotiations, and 16% opted for “nonviolent resistance.” The mob rules. " The only problem is Israel will not let themselves be victims again. The Palestinians want conflict but want to be seen as the victims here but they are the aggressors. If they were winning they would kill everyone, woman and children with no qualms. The 7th October proved this. Mrs x | |||
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"40% of the population of Gaza is 14 years or younger. The median age is 18. The last election was in 2006 so I don’t think the current population can be held accountable for an election they had no involvement in.OK there's no arguing with that, but still no explanation of why those who did vote for them have done nothing about it. That's if they are against Hamas's murderous constitution but maybe they agree with it. Mrs x" Or maybe they’re dead | |||
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"40% of the population of Gaza is 14 years or younger. The median age is 18. The last election was in 2006 so I don’t think the current population can be held accountable for an election they had no involvement in.OK there's no arguing with that, but still no explanation of why those who did vote for them have done nothing about it. That's if they are against Hamas's murderous constitution but maybe they agree with it. Mrs x Or maybe they’re dead " OK let's go with your suggestion and there's no one alive who voted for Hamas. That still doesn't change the fact that they are a terrorist group with an antisemitic agenda that tge youngsters in Gaza know about. So either they support this or ambivalent and just put up with it. Either approach is going to end painfully for them. If they are opposed to this murderous regime then why haven't they done anything about it? And it cannot be that they aren't armed or face overwhelming odds because the young Hamas supporters attack the IDF with stones. Doesn't seem to be much dissent from the Palistinian youth towards Hamas. So is this conflict what they want? Mrs x | |||
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"40% of the population of Gaza is 14 years or younger. The median age is 18. The last election was in 2006 so I don’t think the current population can be held accountable for an election they had no involvement in.OK there's no arguing with that, but still no explanation of why those who did vote for them have done nothing about it. That's if they are against Hamas's murderous constitution but maybe they agree with it. Mrs x Or maybe they’re dead OK let's go with your suggestion and there's no one alive who voted for Hamas. That still doesn't change the fact that they are a terrorist group with an antisemitic agenda that tge youngsters in Gaza know about. So either they support this or ambivalent and just put up with it. Either approach is going to end painfully for them. If they are opposed to this murderous regime then why haven't they done anything about it? And it cannot be that they aren't armed or face overwhelming odds because the young Hamas supporters attack the IDF with stones. Doesn't seem to be much dissent from the Palistinian youth towards Hamas. So is this conflict what they want? Mrs x" The population of Northern Ireland couldn’t overthrow the republican and nationalist terrorists for decades even though there was a functioning police and military presence. To suggest that hamas could be overthrown by the populace when they are the law and the military is ridiculous. The people of Gaza are as much victims of hamas as are Israel. | |||
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"A poll released Wednesday found rising support for the Hamas terror group among Palestinians, both in the West Bank and in Gaza. The poll, conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PCPSR) between May 26 and June 1, found that overall support for Hamas in the Palestinian territories stood at 40%, a six-point increase from the previous survey three months ago. Only some 20% support the Fatah party of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, which governs Palestinian areas of the West Bank. Support for armed struggle is also on the rise, registering an overall eight-point increase compared to March. Armed struggle is considered by a little over half of Palestinians (54%) to be the preferred option to end Israeli rule and establish a Palestinian state, while only a quarter chose negotiations, and 16% opted for “nonviolent resistance.” The mob rules. The only problem is Israel will not let themselves be victims again. The Palestinians want conflict but want to be seen as the victims here but they are the aggressors. If they were winning they would kill everyone, woman and children with no qualms. The 7th October proved this. Mrs x" The Arabs will murder all of Israel if they could, and then the infidels, you know 9/11,7/7, Charlie hedbo, Ariana grande victims, Boston marathon, London Bridge, Glasgow airport. These Islamic butchers need to be stopped, will our politicians are crying about Islamophobia, Israel is protecting its people. The IDF is giving the prophet his comeuppance. Netanyahu the right man at the right time for Israel, he will be likely going to prison or The Hague after this, or murdered. | |||
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"40% of the population of Gaza is 14 years or younger. The median age is 18. The last election was in 2006 so I don’t think the current population can be held accountable for an election they had no involvement in.OK there's no arguing with that, but still no explanation of why those who did vote for them have done nothing about it. That's if they are against Hamas's murderous constitution but maybe they agree with it. Mrs x Or maybe they’re dead OK let's go with your suggestion and there's no one alive who voted for Hamas. That still doesn't change the fact that they are a terrorist group with an antisemitic agenda that tge youngsters in Gaza know about. So either they support this or ambivalent and just put up with it. Either approach is going to end painfully for them. If they are opposed to this murderous regime then why haven't they done anything about it? And it cannot be that they aren't armed or face overwhelming odds because the young Hamas supporters attack the IDF with stones. Doesn't seem to be much dissent from the Palistinian youth towards Hamas. So is this conflict what they want? Mrs x The population of Northern Ireland couldn’t overthrow the republican and nationalist terrorists for decades even though there was a functioning police and military presence. To suggest that hamas could be overthrown by the populace when they are the law and the military is ridiculous. The people of Gaza are as much victims of hamas as are Israel." I believe some are. So every regime that's overthrown has been done so by a well equipped and funded militia because that's not true. History is littered with examples of the poor, oppressed citizens rising up to over throw their oppressors. You are an intelligent person, you know this. I do think some Palistinians are victims of Hamas but it's been 20 years now, if they wanted to fight back they could have at least tried. Resistance groups during the second world war, guerilla campaigns fought against Communist regimes in Central America, Tianamen Square, Hungry and Poland vs USSR, show that opposition can by fought by the civilian populations in lots of different ways. But blind obedience to a murderous regime is not opposition, it's compliance. Do they victims of Hamas not want change? Mrs x | |||
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"40% of the population of Gaza is 14 years or younger. The median age is 18. The last election was in 2006 so I don’t think the current population can be held accountable for an election they had no involvement in.OK there's no arguing with that, but still no explanation of why those who did vote for them have done nothing about it. That's if they are against Hamas's murderous constitution but maybe they agree with it. Mrs x Or maybe they’re dead OK let's go with your suggestion and there's no one alive who voted for Hamas. That still doesn't change the fact that they are a terrorist group with an antisemitic agenda that tge youngsters in Gaza know about. So either they support this or ambivalent and just put up with it. Either approach is going to end painfully for them. If they are opposed to this murderous regime then why haven't they done anything about it? And it cannot be that they aren't armed or face overwhelming odds because the young Hamas supporters attack the IDF with stones. Doesn't seem to be much dissent from the Palistinian youth towards Hamas. So is this conflict what they want? Mrs x The population of Northern Ireland couldn’t overthrow the republican and nationalist terrorists for decades even though there was a functioning police and military presence. To suggest that hamas could be overthrown by the populace when they are the law and the military is ridiculous. The people of Gaza are as much victims of hamas as are Israel. I believe some are. So every regime that's overthrown has been done so by a well equipped and funded militia because that's not true. History is littered with examples of the poor, oppressed citizens rising up to over throw their oppressors. You are an intelligent person, you know this. I do think some Palistinians are victims of Hamas but it's been 20 years now, if they wanted to fight back they could have at least tried. Resistance groups during the second world war, guerilla campaigns fought against Communist regimes in Central America, Tianamen Square, Hungry and Poland vs USSR, show that opposition can by fought by the civilian populations in lots of different ways. But blind obedience to a murderous regime is not opposition, it's compliance. Do they victims of Hamas not want change? Mrs x" Gaza is a conquered land by colonists do not surprised | |||
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" Gaza is a conquered land by colonists do not surprised It was fine till 7 October 2023 Reap what you sow. At the expense of civilians caught up I take it, that's niceAll war concerns civillians, you will have seen this for yourself from other conflicts. In the Middle East. both Yemen and Syria there have been over 10 times as many civillian deaths in their conflicts. If you don't want casualties for your citizens don't organise terrorist attacks against other countries. Mrs x" I was referring to the other posters comment abou everything being fine until 7 October, because it wasn't. Long before 7 October the IDF have committed many acts of routine brutality. 7 October is used by Israel and media as if 5here was peace harmony and justice for all beforehand which is very musleading | |||
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" Gaza is a conquered land by colonists do not surprised It was fine till 7 October 2023 Reap what you sow. At the expense of civilians caught up I take it, that's niceAll war concerns civillians, you will have seen this for yourself from other conflicts. In the Middle East. both Yemen and Syria there have been over 10 times as many civillian deaths in their conflicts. If you don't want casualties for your citizens don't organise terrorist attacks against other countries. Mrs x This applies to Israel too" It's applies to everyone. How are Israel committing terrorist attacks though? Mrs x | |||
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" Gaza is a conquered land by colonists do not surprised It was fine till 7 October 2023 Reap what you sow. At the expense of civilians caught up I take it, that's niceAll war concerns civillians, you will have seen this for yourself from other conflicts. In the Middle East. both Yemen and Syria there have been over 10 times as many civillian deaths in their conflicts. If you don't want casualties for your citizens don't organise terrorist attacks against other countries. Mrs x This applies to Israel tooIt's applies to everyone. How are Israel committing terrorist attacks though? Mrs x" By checking the abundance of evidence would be a good start | |||
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" Gaza is a conquered land by colonists do not surprised It was fine till 7 October 2023 Reap what you sow. At the expense of civilians caught up I take it, that's niceAll war concerns civillians, you will have seen this for yourself from other conflicts. In the Middle East. both Yemen and Syria there have been over 10 times as many civillian deaths in their conflicts. If you don't want casualties for your citizens don't organise terrorist attacks against other countries. Mrs x I was referring to the other posters comment abou everything being fine until 7 October, because it wasn't. Long before 7 October the IDF have committed many acts of routine brutality. 7 October is used by Israel and media as if 5here was peace harmony and justice for all beforehand which is very musleading" Hamas have been attacking Israel every day by missile and rocket attacks since they took power. On the very first day they fired 2,000 rockets into Israel. So you are right it does go back before Oct 7th but I think you'll find Hamas have committed acts of terror almost consistently. Oct 7th was massive though, in terms of numbers and how evil the actual act was. It's perfectly justifiable for Israel to go to war after this. Mrs x | |||
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" Gaza is a conquered land by colonists do not surprised It was fine till 7 October 2023 Reap what you sow. At the expense of civilians caught up I take it, that's niceAll war concerns civillians, you will have seen this for yourself from other conflicts. In the Middle East. both Yemen and Syria there have been over 10 times as many civillian deaths in their conflicts. If you don't want casualties for your citizens don't organise terrorist attacks against other countries. Mrs x This applies to Israel tooIt's applies to everyone. How are Israel committing terrorist attacks though? Mrs x By checking the abundance of evidence would be a good start" OK so Oct 7th is justified then, the suicide bombings crossing the borders are justified then, the r@ping of woman, burning of babies is justified then. These are all organised acts of terror. Israel are not committing organised acts of terror. Mrs x | |||
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" Gaza is a conquered land by colonists do not surprised It was fine till 7 October 2023 Reap what you sow. At the expense of civilians caught up I take it, that's niceAll war concerns civillians, you will have seen this for yourself from other conflicts. In the Middle East. both Yemen and Syria there have been over 10 times as many civillian deaths in their conflicts. If you don't want casualties for your citizens don't organise terrorist attacks against other countries. Mrs x I was referring to the other posters comment abou everything being fine until 7 October, because it wasn't. Long before 7 October the IDF have committed many acts of routine brutality. 7 October is used by Israel and media as if 5here was peace harmony and justice for all beforehand which is very musleadingHamas have been attacking Israel every day by missile and rocket attacks since they took power. On the very first day they fired 2,000 rockets into Israel. So you are right it does go back before Oct 7th but I think you'll find Hamas have committed acts of terror almost consistently. Oct 7th was massive though, in terms of numbers and how evil the actual act was. It's perfectly justifiable for Israel to go to war after this. Mrs x" Can agree on that though can also be argued that the Israeli government endangering its own citizens by routinely brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks. Just before 7 October there were large amounts of killings just as awful committed by the IDF that havent been mentioned on the news | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... " Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are. | |||
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" Gaza is a conquered land by colonists do not surprised It was fine till 7 October 2023 Reap what you sow. At the expense of civilians caught up I take it, that's niceAll war concerns civillians, you will have seen this for yourself from other conflicts. In the Middle East. both Yemen and Syria there have been over 10 times as many civillian deaths in their conflicts. If you don't want casualties for your citizens don't organise terrorist attacks against other countries. Mrs x I was referring to the other posters comment abou everything being fine until 7 October, because it wasn't. Long before 7 October the IDF have committed many acts of routine brutality. 7 October is used by Israel and media as if 5here was peace harmony and justice for all beforehand which is very musleadingHamas have been attacking Israel every day by missile and rocket attacks since they took power. On the very first day they fired 2,000 rockets into Israel. So you are right it does go back before Oct 7th but I think you'll find Hamas have committed acts of terror almost consistently. Oct 7th was massive though, in terms of numbers and how evil the actual act was. It's perfectly justifiable for Israel to go to war after this. Mrs x Can agree on that though can also be argued that the Israeli government endangering its own citizens by routinely brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks. Just before 7 October there were large amounts of killings just as awful committed by the IDF that havent been mentioned on the news " You do realise that by saying what you're saying about unreported killings means you are open to others saying anything outrageous with the caveat that it was unreported, feel it's best to state stuff that can be backed by evidence as it strengthens your argument. There may have been individual incidents of the IDF committing crimes but it's not the same as acts of organised terrorism. Mrs x | |||
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" Gaza is a conquered land by colonists do not surprised It was fine till 7 October 2023 Reap what you sow. At the expense of civilians caught up I take it, that's niceAll war concerns civillians, you will have seen this for yourself from other conflicts. In the Middle East. both Yemen and Syria there have been over 10 times as many civillian deaths in their conflicts. If you don't want casualties for your citizens don't organise terrorist attacks against other countries. Mrs x I was referring to the other posters comment abou everything being fine until 7 October, because it wasn't. Long before 7 October the IDF have committed many acts of routine brutality. 7 October is used by Israel and media as if 5here was peace harmony and justice for all beforehand which is very musleadingHamas have been attacking Israel every day by missile and rocket attacks since they took power. On the very first day they fired 2,000 rockets into Israel. So you are right it does go back before Oct 7th but I think you'll find Hamas have committed acts of terror almost consistently. Oct 7th was massive though, in terms of numbers and how evil the actual act was. It's perfectly justifiable for Israel to go to war after this. Mrs x Can agree on that though can also be argued that the Israeli government endangering its own citizens by routinely brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks. Just before 7 October there were large amounts of killings just as awful committed by the IDF that havent been mentioned on the news You do realise that by saying what you're saying about unreported killings means you are open to others saying anything outrageous with the caveat that it was unreported, feel it's best to state stuff that can be backed by evidence as it strengthens your argument. There may have been individual incidents of the IDF committing crimes but it's not the same as acts of organised terrorism. Mrs x" unless your there then how do they know if it’s unreported I bet this is more of a feeling than a fact then lol | |||
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" Gaza is a conquered land by colonists do not surprised It was fine till 7 October 2023 Reap what you sow. At the expense of civilians caught up I take it, that's niceAll war concerns civillians, you will have seen this for yourself from other conflicts. In the Middle East. both Yemen and Syria there have been over 10 times as many civillian deaths in their conflicts. If you don't want casualties for your citizens don't organise terrorist attacks against other countries. Mrs x I was referring to the other posters comment abou everything being fine until 7 October, because it wasn't. Long before 7 October the IDF have committed many acts of routine brutality. 7 October is used by Israel and media as if 5here was peace harmony and justice for all beforehand which is very musleadingHamas have been attacking Israel every day by missile and rocket attacks since they took power. On the very first day they fired 2,000 rockets into Israel. So you are right it does go back before Oct 7th but I think you'll find Hamas have committed acts of terror almost consistently. Oct 7th was massive though, in terms of numbers and how evil the actual act was. It's perfectly justifiable for Israel to go to war after this. Mrs x Can agree on that though can also be argued that the Israeli government endangering its own citizens by routinely brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks. Just before 7 October there were large amounts of killings just as awful committed by the IDF that havent been mentioned on the news You do realise that by saying what you're saying about unreported killings means you are open to others saying anything outrageous with the caveat that it was unreported, feel it's best to state stuff that can be backed by evidence as it strengthens your argument. There may have been individual incidents of the IDF committing crimes but it's not the same as acts of organised terrorism. Mrs xunless your there then how do they know if it’s unreported I bet this is more of a feeling than a fact then lol" and can what is reported be classed as facts or truths with the media nowadays 🤷 | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are." Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x" They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker... | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker..." I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x " Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect. 
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs x"imo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing. | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing."You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences. What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide. If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim. If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you? Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other? So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter. Mrs x | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying "I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x"No you cannot. Not with any balanced reasoning of both moral and international law. But I'd like you to try with your bias toward the IDF. | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x
No you cannot. Not with any balanced reasoning of both moral and international law.
But I'd like you to try with your bias toward the IDF.
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x
No you cannot. Not with any balanced reasoning of both moral and international law.
But I'd like you to try with your bias toward the IDF.
Just look to previous post Dan, you are a bot slow since coming back, Mrs x"Well I've read your posts and quite an eye opener where you blame the victims. Should we have dropped 2000 lb bombs to kill a few IRA and blame the hundreds of victims there too? Seeing as your from northern Ireland | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x
No you cannot. Not with any balanced reasoning of both moral and international law.
But I'd like you to try with your bias toward the IDF.
Just look to previous post Dan, you are a bot slow since coming back, Mrs x
Well I've read your posts and quite an eye opener where you blame the victims.
Should we have dropped 2000 lb bombs to kill a few IRA and blame the hundreds of victims there too? Seeing as your from northern Ireland
"I'm not from Northern Ireland, I was born in Ireland. I never blamed any victims, I have said parents have a duty to protect their kids and cannot understand why they stay put when they know they are going to be attacked. As for what type of bomb, why don't you tell us Dan what would be tge best type of bomb to use as you have extensive military experience, Mrs x | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x
No you cannot. Not with any balanced reasoning of both moral and international law.
But I'd like you to try with your bias toward the IDF.
Just look to previous post Dan, you are a bot slow since coming back, Mrs x
Well I've read your posts and quite an eye opener where you blame the victims.
Should we have dropped 2000 lb bombs to kill a few IRA and blame the hundreds of victims there too? Seeing as your from northern Ireland
I'm not from Northern Ireland, I was born in Ireland.
I never blamed any victims, I have said parents have a duty to protect their kids and cannot understand why they stay put when they know they are going to be attacked.
As for what type of bomb, why don't you tell us Dan what would be tge best type of bomb to use as you have extensive military experience, Mrs x"Who typed this into their post then. "What's happened in Gaza is terrible. It's terrible because it could have been avoided. People made choices and it's led them to here. Gazans voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation committed to the genocide of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state. Like any manifesto the electorate knew this, so by voting them in they too must have wanted this" Looks like blaming the victims to me. The children didn't vote for Hamas, did those who supposedly had a free choice to vote for Hamas know what what they were voting for? I'm sure a lot of labour voters didn't expect kier starmer to be what he is. Not being an IRA supporter I wouldn't be going after non combatants. Even you from shankhill road wouldn't stoop so low Btw does geordie-nufc ring a bell | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x
No you cannot. Not with any balanced reasoning of both moral and international law.
But I'd like you to try with your bias toward the IDF.
Just look to previous post Dan, you are a bot slow since coming back, Mrs x
Well I've read your posts and quite an eye opener where you blame the victims.
Should we have dropped 2000 lb bombs to kill a few IRA and blame the hundreds of victims there too? Seeing as your from northern Ireland
I'm not from Northern Ireland, I was born in Ireland.
I never blamed any victims, I have said parents have a duty to protect their kids and cannot understand why they stay put when they know they are going to be attacked.
As for what type of bomb, why don't you tell us Dan what would be tge best type of bomb to use as you have extensive military experience, Mrs x
Who typed this into their post then.
"What's happened in Gaza is terrible. It's terrible because it could have been avoided. People made choices and it's led them to here.
Gazans voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation committed to the genocide of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state.
Like any manifesto the electorate knew this, so by voting them in they too must have wanted this"
Looks like blaming the victims to me. The children didn't vote for Hamas, did those who supposedly had a free choice to vote for Hamas know what what they were voting for?
I'm sure a lot of labour voters didn't expect kier starmer to be what he is.
Not being an IRA supporter I wouldn't be going after non combatants.
Even you from shankhill road wouldn't stoop so low
Btw does geordie-nufc ring a bell
"I did post that. And they did know what they were voting for, it's in their constitution, kill all Jews, destroy Israel, that constitution. Not sure you are aware but kids never vote in an election. Can I ask a non related question? Why the profile name change, you ashamed of being a Geordie now or just ashamed of your team? Can't quite remember your previous profile. Mrs x | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x
No you cannot. Not with any balanced reasoning of both moral and international law.
But I'd like you to try with your bias toward the IDF.
Just look to previous post Dan, you are a bot slow since coming back, Mrs x
Well I've read your posts and quite an eye opener where you blame the victims.
Should we have dropped 2000 lb bombs to kill a few IRA and blame the hundreds of victims there too? Seeing as your from northern Ireland
I'm not from Northern Ireland, I was born in Ireland.
I never blamed any victims, I have said parents have a duty to protect their kids and cannot understand why they stay put when they know they are going to be attacked.
As for what type of bomb, why don't you tell us Dan what would be tge best type of bomb to use as you have extensive military experience, Mrs x
Who typed this into their post then.
"What's happened in Gaza is terrible. It's terrible because it could have been avoided. People made choices and it's led them to here.
Gazans voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation committed to the genocide of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state.
Like any manifesto the electorate knew this, so by voting them in they too must have wanted this"
Looks like blaming the victims to me. The children didn't vote for Hamas, did those who supposedly had a free choice to vote for Hamas know what what they were voting for?
I'm sure a lot of labour voters didn't expect kier starmer to be what he is.
Not being an IRA supporter I wouldn't be going after non combatants.
Even you from shankhill road wouldn't stoop so low
Btw does geordie-nufc ring a bell
I did post that. And they did know what they were voting for, it's in their constitution, kill all Jews, destroy Israel, that constitution. Not sure you are aware but kids never vote in an election.
Can I ask a non related question?
Why the profile name change, you ashamed of being a Geordie now or just ashamed of your team? Can't quite remember your previous profile.
Mrs x"Well I didn't know you were an expert on what happened in Gaza elections. How the voting systems were organised and who counted the votes and how true the votes were collected. Wow you're very travelled. I see you've pre loaded your questions with assumptions which is typical of you. I fancied a change, being from Hartlepool they're not typically Newcastle fans, being a geordie in Cleveland though a mix of fans supporting Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Hartlepool reduces my chances of getting lucky. I've a question for you | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x
No you cannot. Not with any balanced reasoning of both moral and international law.
But I'd like you to try with your bias toward the IDF.
Just look to previous post Dan, you are a bot slow since coming back, Mrs x
Well I've read your posts and quite an eye opener where you blame the victims.
Should we have dropped 2000 lb bombs to kill a few IRA and blame the hundreds of victims there too? Seeing as your from northern Ireland
I'm not from Northern Ireland, I was born in Ireland.
I never blamed any victims, I have said parents have a duty to protect their kids and cannot understand why they stay put when they know they are going to be attacked.
As for what type of bomb, why don't you tell us Dan what would be tge best type of bomb to use as you have extensive military experience, Mrs x
Who typed this into their post then.
"What's happened in Gaza is terrible. It's terrible because it could have been avoided. People made choices and it's led them to here.
Gazans voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation committed to the genocide of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state.
Like any manifesto the electorate knew this, so by voting them in they too must have wanted this"
Looks like blaming the victims to me. The children didn't vote for Hamas, did those who supposedly had a free choice to vote for Hamas know what what they were voting for?
I'm sure a lot of labour voters didn't expect kier starmer to be what he is.
Not being an IRA supporter I wouldn't be going after non combatants.
Even you from shankhill road wouldn't stoop so low
Btw does geordie-nufc ring a bell
I did post that. And they did know what they were voting for, it's in their constitution, kill all Jews, destroy Israel, that constitution. Not sure you are aware but kids never vote in an election.
Can I ask a non related question?
Why the profile name change, you ashamed of being a Geordie now or just ashamed of your team? Can't quite remember your previous profile.
Mrs x
Well I didn't know you were an expert on what happened in Gaza elections. How the voting systems were organised and who counted the votes and how true the votes were collected.
Wow you're very travelled.
I see you've pre loaded your questions with assumptions which is typical of you.
I fancied a change, being from Hartlepool they're not typically Newcastle fans, being a geordie in Cleveland though a mix of fans supporting Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Hartlepool reduces my chances of getting lucky.
I've a question for you
"What is it? Mrs x | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x
No you cannot. Not with any balanced reasoning of both moral and international law.
But I'd like you to try with your bias toward the IDF.
Just look to previous post Dan, you are a bot slow since coming back, Mrs x
Well I've read your posts and quite an eye opener where you blame the victims.
Should we have dropped 2000 lb bombs to kill a few IRA and blame the hundreds of victims there too? Seeing as your from northern Ireland
I'm not from Northern Ireland, I was born in Ireland.
I never blamed any victims, I have said parents have a duty to protect their kids and cannot understand why they stay put when they know they are going to be attacked.
As for what type of bomb, why don't you tell us Dan what would be tge best type of bomb to use as you have extensive military experience, Mrs x
Who typed this into their post then.
"What's happened in Gaza is terrible. It's terrible because it could have been avoided. People made choices and it's led them to here.
Gazans voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation committed to the genocide of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state.
Like any manifesto the electorate knew this, so by voting them in they too must have wanted this"
Looks like blaming the victims to me. The children didn't vote for Hamas, did those who supposedly had a free choice to vote for Hamas know what what they were voting for?
I'm sure a lot of labour voters didn't expect kier starmer to be what he is.
Not being an IRA supporter I wouldn't be going after non combatants.
Even you from shankhill road wouldn't stoop so low
Btw does geordie-nufc ring a bell
I did post that. And they did know what they were voting for, it's in their constitution, kill all Jews, destroy Israel, that constitution. Not sure you are aware but kids never vote in an election.
Can I ask a non related question?
Why the profile name change, you ashamed of being a Geordie now or just ashamed of your team? Can't quite remember your previous profile.
Mrs x
Well I didn't know you were an expert on what happened in Gaza elections. How the voting systems were organised and who counted the votes and how true the votes were collected.
Wow you're very travelled.
I see you've pre loaded your questions with assumptions which is typical of you.
I fancied a change, being from Hartlepool they're not typically Newcastle fans, being a geordie in Cleveland though a mix of fans supporting Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Hartlepool reduces my chances of getting lucky.
I've a question for you
What is it? Mrs x"Do you think that morals of humanity should be universal and that the law applies equally to everyone equally without favour or bias? | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x
No you cannot. Not with any balanced reasoning of both moral and international law.
But I'd like you to try with your bias toward the IDF.
Just look to previous post Dan, you are a bot slow since coming back, Mrs x
Well I've read your posts and quite an eye opener where you blame the victims.
Should we have dropped 2000 lb bombs to kill a few IRA and blame the hundreds of victims there too? Seeing as your from northern Ireland
I'm not from Northern Ireland, I was born in Ireland.
I never blamed any victims, I have said parents have a duty to protect their kids and cannot understand why they stay put when they know they are going to be attacked.
As for what type of bomb, why don't you tell us Dan what would be tge best type of bomb to use as you have extensive military experience, Mrs x
Who typed this into their post then.
"What's happened in Gaza is terrible. It's terrible because it could have been avoided. People made choices and it's led them to here.
Gazans voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation committed to the genocide of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state.
Like any manifesto the electorate knew this, so by voting them in they too must have wanted this"
Looks like blaming the victims to me. The children didn't vote for Hamas, did those who supposedly had a free choice to vote for Hamas know what what they were voting for?
I'm sure a lot of labour voters didn't expect kier starmer to be what he is.
Not being an IRA supporter I wouldn't be going after non combatants.
Even you from shankhill road wouldn't stoop so low
Btw does geordie-nufc ring a bell
I did post that. And they did know what they were voting for, it's in their constitution, kill all Jews, destroy Israel, that constitution. Not sure you are aware but kids never vote in an election.
Can I ask a non related question?
Why the profile name change, you ashamed of being a Geordie now or just ashamed of your team? Can't quite remember your previous profile.
Mrs x
Well I didn't know you were an expert on what happened in Gaza elections. How the voting systems were organised and who counted the votes and how true the votes were collected.
Wow you're very travelled.
I see you've pre loaded your questions with assumptions which is typical of you.
I fancied a change, being from Hartlepool they're not typically Newcastle fans, being a geordie in Cleveland though a mix of fans supporting Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Hartlepool reduces my chances of getting lucky.
I've a question for you
What is it? Mrs x
Do you think that morals of humanity should be universal and that the law applies equally to everyone equally without favour or bias?
"Morals are an individual thing. The law should apply equally to everyone but that equality varies unfortunately on how proficient you are able to interpret the law to suit your objectives, Mrs x | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x
No you cannot. Not with any balanced reasoning of both moral and international law.
But I'd like you to try with your bias toward the IDF.
Just look to previous post Dan, you are a bot slow since coming back, Mrs x
Well I've read your posts and quite an eye opener where you blame the victims.
Should we have dropped 2000 lb bombs to kill a few IRA and blame the hundreds of victims there too? Seeing as your from northern Ireland
I'm not from Northern Ireland, I was born in Ireland.
I never blamed any victims, I have said parents have a duty to protect their kids and cannot understand why they stay put when they know they are going to be attacked.
As for what type of bomb, why don't you tell us Dan what would be tge best type of bomb to use as you have extensive military experience, Mrs x
Who typed this into their post then.
"What's happened in Gaza is terrible. It's terrible because it could have been avoided. People made choices and it's led them to here.
Gazans voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation committed to the genocide of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state.
Like any manifesto the electorate knew this, so by voting them in they too must have wanted this"
Looks like blaming the victims to me. The children didn't vote for Hamas, did those who supposedly had a free choice to vote for Hamas know what what they were voting for?
I'm sure a lot of labour voters didn't expect kier starmer to be what he is.
Not being an IRA supporter I wouldn't be going after non combatants.
Even you from shankhill road wouldn't stoop so low
Btw does geordie-nufc ring a bell
I did post that. And they did know what they were voting for, it's in their constitution, kill all Jews, destroy Israel, that constitution. Not sure you are aware but kids never vote in an election.
Can I ask a non related question?
Why the profile name change, you ashamed of being a Geordie now or just ashamed of your team? Can't quite remember your previous profile.
Mrs x
Well I didn't know you were an expert on what happened in Gaza elections. How the voting systems were organised and who counted the votes and how true the votes were collected.
Wow you're very travelled.
I see you've pre loaded your questions with assumptions which is typical of you.
I fancied a change, being from Hartlepool they're not typically Newcastle fans, being a geordie in Cleveland though a mix of fans supporting Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Hartlepool reduces my chances of getting lucky.
I've a question for you
What is it? Mrs x
Do you think that morals of humanity should be universal and that the law applies equally to everyone equally without favour or bias?
Morals are an individual thing. The law should apply equally to everyone but that equality varies unfortunately on how proficient you are able to interpret the law to suit your objectives, Mrs x"Well that leaves open blaming the victims to me, including the kids that have died in rh name of "justice" As the Gaza offensive continues just remember the horrors that you and others have supported and will go down in history in the name of so called justice. | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x
No you cannot. Not with any balanced reasoning of both moral and international law.
But I'd like you to try with your bias toward the IDF.
Just look to previous post Dan, you are a bot slow since coming back, Mrs x
Well I've read your posts and quite an eye opener where you blame the victims.
Should we have dropped 2000 lb bombs to kill a few IRA and blame the hundreds of victims there too? Seeing as your from northern Ireland
I'm not from Northern Ireland, I was born in Ireland.
I never blamed any victims, I have said parents have a duty to protect their kids and cannot understand why they stay put when they know they are going to be attacked.
As for what type of bomb, why don't you tell us Dan what would be tge best type of bomb to use as you have extensive military experience, Mrs x
Who typed this into their post then.
"What's happened in Gaza is terrible. It's terrible because it could have been avoided. People made choices and it's led them to here.
Gazans voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation committed to the genocide of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state.
Like any manifesto the electorate knew this, so by voting them in they too must have wanted this"
Looks like blaming the victims to me. The children didn't vote for Hamas, did those who supposedly had a free choice to vote for Hamas know what what they were voting for?
I'm sure a lot of labour voters didn't expect kier starmer to be what he is.
Not being an IRA supporter I wouldn't be going after non combatants.
Even you from shankhill road wouldn't stoop so low
Btw does geordie-nufc ring a bell
I did post that. And they did know what they were voting for, it's in their constitution, kill all Jews, destroy Israel, that constitution. Not sure you are aware but kids never vote in an election.
Can I ask a non related question?
Why the profile name change, you ashamed of being a Geordie now or just ashamed of your team? Can't quite remember your previous profile.
Mrs x
Well I didn't know you were an expert on what happened in Gaza elections. How the voting systems were organised and who counted the votes and how true the votes were collected.
Wow you're very travelled.
I see you've pre loaded your questions with assumptions which is typical of you.
I fancied a change, being from Hartlepool they're not typically Newcastle fans, being a geordie in Cleveland though a mix of fans supporting Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Hartlepool reduces my chances of getting lucky.
I've a question for you
What is it? Mrs x
Do you think that morals of humanity should be universal and that the law applies equally to everyone equally without favour or bias?
Morals are an individual thing. The law should apply equally to everyone but that equality varies unfortunately on how proficient you are able to interpret the law to suit your objectives, Mrs x
Well that leaves open blaming the victims to me, including the kids that have died in rh name of "justice"
As the Gaza offensive continues just remember the horrors that you and others have supported and will go down in history in the name of so called justice. "But your hands will be clean because you are a terrorist apologist, never condemning any of their acts. You support horrors such as r@ping woman and girls, beheading, suicide bombing, the indiscriminate use of missiles and burning babies alive. Go wobble your tin foil hat wearing head, you crackpot, Mrs x | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x
No you cannot. Not with any balanced reasoning of both moral and international law.
But I'd like you to try with your bias toward the IDF.
Just look to previous post Dan, you are a bot slow since coming back, Mrs x
Well I've read your posts and quite an eye opener where you blame the victims.
Should we have dropped 2000 lb bombs to kill a few IRA and blame the hundreds of victims there too? Seeing as your from northern Ireland
I'm not from Northern Ireland, I was born in Ireland.
I never blamed any victims, I have said parents have a duty to protect their kids and cannot understand why they stay put when they know they are going to be attacked.
As for what type of bomb, why don't you tell us Dan what would be tge best type of bomb to use as you have extensive military experience, Mrs x
Who typed this into their post then.
"What's happened in Gaza is terrible. It's terrible because it could have been avoided. People made choices and it's led them to here.
Gazans voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation committed to the genocide of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state.
Like any manifesto the electorate knew this, so by voting them in they too must have wanted this"
Looks like blaming the victims to me. The children didn't vote for Hamas, did those who supposedly had a free choice to vote for Hamas know what what they were voting for?
I'm sure a lot of labour voters didn't expect kier starmer to be what he is.
Not being an IRA supporter I wouldn't be going after non combatants.
Even you from shankhill road wouldn't stoop so low
Btw does geordie-nufc ring a bell
I did post that. And they did know what they were voting for, it's in their constitution, kill all Jews, destroy Israel, that constitution. Not sure you are aware but kids never vote in an election.
Can I ask a non related question?
Why the profile name change, you ashamed of being a Geordie now or just ashamed of your team? Can't quite remember your previous profile.
Mrs x
Well I didn't know you were an expert on what happened in Gaza elections. How the voting systems were organised and who counted the votes and how true the votes were collected.
Wow you're very travelled.
I see you've pre loaded your questions with assumptions which is typical of you.
I fancied a change, being from Hartlepool they're not typically Newcastle fans, being a geordie in Cleveland though a mix of fans supporting Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Hartlepool reduces my chances of getting lucky.
I've a question for you
What is it? Mrs x
Do you think that morals of humanity should be universal and that the law applies equally to everyone equally without favour or bias?
Morals are an individual thing. The law should apply equally to everyone but that equality varies unfortunately on how proficient you are able to interpret the law to suit your objectives, Mrs x
Well that leaves open blaming the victims to me, including the kids that have died in rh name of "justice"
As the Gaza offensive continues just remember the horrors that you and others have supported and will go down in history in the name of so called justice. But your hands will be clean because you are a terrorist apologist, never condemning any of their acts. You support horrors such as r@ping woman and girls, beheading, suicide bombing, the indiscriminate use of missiles and burning babies alive.
Go wobble your tin foil hat wearing head, you crackpot, Mrs x"you support genocide. How you rationalise genocide to make it acceptable is shocking too. you don't realise just how like those you despise. Perhaps one day you'll realise that, but I doubt it. | |||
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" ...brutalising the general population in Gaza helped ferment the 7 October attacks.... Oh. Using the term ferment to mean forment must be a Durham thing, right? It was used by another poster, who just might be your neighbour. Also Durham based, in fact, pretty much your exact location. Also happens to share your age! Similar world views and a very particular style of writing, which your share. Clearly there's a Durham "type". You guys should get acquainted, although he stopped posting shortly before you joined Fab. Goes by the name dan_delyon. You guys should really get along well, perhaps reach out to him, he's online right now, and coincidentally whenever you are.Busted haha, hi Dan, Ben, whatever, have missed you. Mrs x They've both logged off now. Perhaps he took the suggestion and they're both having a good chat right now... So satisfying to be a matchmaker...I matched him with another poster a while ago, I should have spotted the signs, bit distracted by finishing off the Xmas deccies whilst browsing on here. Well done, Mrs x Omg I'm busted I am stunned at your intellect.
I think you'll find that there are a few males that live in county Durham, even though I'm in Cleveland .
I've answered your other post too.
Is this how you usually shut down discussions where your unable to reply with a valid answer ?
Funny how you haven't responded to the other poster who 'outed' you. Why me and not them, is it because I've been living rent free in your head for awhile now, haha, Mrs ximo it seems your defend everything n anything the IDF does and blame the Gazans for their own suffering. The IDF routinely watch the illegal settlers attack Palestinians and do nothing as was shown on ch4 news a few weeks ago. Only a few days ago after bombing a building they then started shooting at the ambulances who tried to help the wounded.and just today an ex Israeli defence minister said Israel are on a path of conquest genocide and ethnic cleansing.You need to read my previous posts to understand what I truly feel about this. So just one more time, I think ALL innocent lives lost are a tragedy. If the IDF or Hamas commit acts of criminality then they should face the consequences.
What I don't necessarily agree with are claims that Israel are attempting genocide.
If Israel wanted this is undeniable that they could achieve this, quite easily. However the numbers just don't suggest this. Out of 2 million Gazans, just under 50,000 have died during this conflict that's about 2.5% of the population. Or in other words they have not killed 97.5% of the population of Gaza. That's not great if genocide is your aim.
If genocide of the Palestinians is Iaraels aim then can you answer me why there are 2 million Palestinians, living in Israel, most as Israeli citizens? Surely if you want to commit genocide to a group or to ethnically cleanse a certain group then why let them live, peacefully, as citizens in your country? I'd love someone to tell me why this is the case, could you?
Also why mention genocide and Israel in the same breath but ignore genocide and Hamas. Hamas has a constitution which has at its core the genocide of ALL Jews and the obliteration of Israel as a state. So why not mention this, is it because each of these states follows different religions and you value one over the other?
So hope this answers what I believe in relation to IDF and Hamas. One is an army of a democratic state, the other is a recognised terrorist group. Looking at your posts you appear to have more support to the latter.
Mrs x
He said that not me. (Unless he is me ) Does he live in county Durham too, even when I'm in Cleveland, I'm not +fermenting+ trouble here just saying I'm not responding to you Dan, I'm responding to another poster, is that OK, can I do that? Mrs x
No you cannot. Not with any balanced reasoning of both moral and international law.
But I'd like you to try with your bias toward the IDF.
Just look to previous post Dan, you are a bot slow since coming back, Mrs x
Well I've read your posts and quite an eye opener where you blame the victims.
Should we have dropped 2000 lb bombs to kill a few IRA and blame the hundreds of victims there too? Seeing as your from northern Ireland
I'm not from Northern Ireland, I was born in Ireland.
I never blamed any victims, I have said parents have a duty to protect their kids and cannot understand why they stay put when they know they are going to be attacked.
As for what type of bomb, why don't you tell us Dan what would be tge best type of bomb to use as you have extensive military experience, Mrs x
Who typed this into their post then.
"What's happened in Gaza is terrible. It's terrible because it could have been avoided. People made choices and it's led them to here.
Gazans voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation committed to the genocide of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state.
Like any manifesto the electorate knew this, so by voting them in they too must have wanted this"
Looks like blaming the victims to me. The children didn't vote for Hamas, did those who supposedly had a free choice to vote for Hamas know what what they were voting for?
I'm sure a lot of labour voters didn't expect kier starmer to be what he is.
Not being an IRA supporter I wouldn't be going after non combatants.
Even you from shankhill road wouldn't stoop so low
Btw does geordie-nufc ring a bell
I did post that. And they did know what they were voting for, it's in their constitution, kill all Jews, destroy Israel, that constitution. Not sure you are aware but kids never vote in an election.
Can I ask a non related question?
Why the profile name change, you ashamed of being a Geordie now or just ashamed of your team? Can't quite remember your previous profile.
Mrs x
Well I didn't know you were an expert on what happened in Gaza elections. How the voting systems were organised and who counted the votes and how true the votes were collected.
Wow you're very travelled.
I see you've pre loaded your questions with assumptions which is typical of you.
I fancied a change, being from Hartlepool they're not typically Newcastle fans, being a geordie in Cleveland though a mix of fans supporting Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Hartlepool reduces my chances of getting lucky.
I've a question for you
What is it? Mrs x
Do you think that morals of humanity should be universal and that the law applies equally to everyone equally without favour or bias?
Morals are an individual thing. The law should apply equally to everyone but that equality varies unfortunately on how proficient you are able to interpret the law to suit your objectives, Mrs x
Well that leaves open blaming the victims to me, including the kids that have died in rh name of "justice"
As the Gaza offensive continues just remember the horrors that you and others have supported and will go down in history in the name of so called justice. But your hands will be clean because you are a terrorist apologist, never condemning any of their acts. You support horrors such as r@ping woman and girls, beheading, suicide bombing, the indiscriminate use of missiles and burning babies alive.
Go wobble your tin foil hat wearing head, you crackpot, Mrs x
you support genocide.
How you rationalise genocide to make it acceptable is shocking too.
you don't realise just how like those you despise.
Perhaps one day you'll realise that, but I doubt it.
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"It is incredible that having suffered a massive terrorist attack Israel burned through any of that goodwill almost immediately and have continued to commit a genocide while everyone watches. " How are you defining genocide? | |||
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"It is incredible that having suffered a massive terrorist attack Israel burned through any of that goodwill almost immediately and have continued to commit a genocide while everyone watches. How are you defining genocide?" It's a unique form of genocide where the population of Gaza actually increases. | |||
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"It is incredible that having suffered a massive terrorist attack Israel burned through any of that goodwill almost immediately and have continued to commit a genocide while everyone watches. How are you defining genocide? It's a unique form of genocide where the population of Gaza actually increases. " The CIA’s World Factbook did estimate the 2024 population growth rate of the Gaza strip at 2.02%. But that estimate is based on growth projections from August 2023, before Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023, attack on Israel and Israel’s counteroffensive in Gaza. | |||
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"How can it be genocide of Palestinians, when 2 million Palestinians live peacefully in Israel itself? That's not genocide of a particular group. Mrs x" You and the other poster are some kind of weird double act Is it anyone's fault that you and your double act partner choose to blindly ignore the definition of genocide. There's an abundance of information yet you and your double act partner choose to ignore the facts and instead invent some weird cobblers to somehow circumvent reality. What utter crap you both spout! | |||
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"How can it be genocide of Palestinians, when 2 million Palestinians live peacefully in Israel itself? That's not genocide of a particular group. Mrs x" Google genocide up instead of being ignorant. | |||
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"How can it be genocide of Palestinians, when 2 million Palestinians live peacefully in Israel itself? That's not genocide of a particular group. Mrs x You and the other poster are some kind of weird double act Is it anyone's fault that you and your double act partner choose to blindly ignore the definition of genocide. There's an abundance of information yet you and your double act partner choose to ignore the facts and instead invent some weird cobblers to somehow circumvent reality. What utter crap you both spout! " Do you actually know the numbers killed in Gaza? About 45,000. As a percentage of the population of about 2 million its about 2.5% of the population. Halve it again to account for the 2 million Palestinians who live peacefully in Israel and its 1.25% of the 4 million Palestinians who live in Israel and Gaza. That means 98.75% of the Palestinians in the area are still alive. Not a number you'd normally associate with a genocide. Unless that is Istael are just crap at committing genocide. So how is this me actually circumventing reality and how do you account for these numbers? You can't because you have no clue other than to spout the crap you read on Twitter/X or watch on YouTube. Think for yourself. Oh and the figure of 1.25% is actually smaller than that, when you take into account that the figure of 45,000 includes actual Hamas terrorist and not just civillians. So using just the figures, it's obvious you have no idea what genocide actually means. Mrs x | |||
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"How can it be genocide of Palestinians, when 2 million Palestinians live peacefully in Israel itself? That's not genocide of a particular group. Mrs x Google genocide up instead of being ignorant." So you cannot answer this simple question, why do 2 million Palestinians choose to live peacefully in Israel, you can Google it if you want? Mrs x | |||
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"How can it be genocide of Palestinians, when 2 million Palestinians live peacefully in Israel itself? That's not genocide of a particular group. Mrs x Google genocide up instead of being ignorant. So you cannot answer this simple question, why do 2 million Palestinians choose to live peacefully in Israel, you can Google it if you want? Mrs x" I don't need to. I visited Israel twice now. Once in the 80s and most recently, 1990s. Albeit a long time ago and it's an apartheid state, I would say like south Africa. I've never been to South Africa but imagine it's like that | |||
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"How can it be genocide of Palestinians, when 2 million Palestinians live peacefully in Israel itself? That's not genocide of a particular group. Mrs x Google genocide up instead of being ignorant. So you cannot answer this simple question, why do 2 million Palestinians choose to live peacefully in Israel, you can Google it if you want? Mrs x I don't need to. I visited Israel twice now. Once in the 80s and most recently, 1990s. Albeit a long time ago and it's an apartheid state, I would say like south Africa. I've never been to South Africa but imagine it's like that" Is it though, I think you are getting your facts mixed up, haha, Mrs x | |||
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"How can it be genocide of Palestinians, when 2 million Palestinians live peacefully in Israel itself? That's not genocide of a particular group. Mrs x Google genocide up instead of being ignorant. So you cannot answer this simple question, why do 2 million Palestinians choose to live peacefully in Israel, you can Google it if you want? Mrs x" I am sure the 2 million that you state live in Israel, are over the moon that their people are being massacred in their thousands and really are glad that they have Israeli citizenship, and a roof over their head as their fellow people are being massacred over the boarder. Yeh that really makes sense. | |||
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"How can it be genocide of Palestinians, when 2 million Palestinians live peacefully in Israel itself? That's not genocide of a particular group. Mrs x Google genocide up instead of being ignorant. So you cannot answer this simple question, why do 2 million Palestinians choose to live peacefully in Israel, you can Google it if you want? Mrs x I don't need to. I visited Israel twice now. Once in the 80s and most recently, 1990s. Albeit a long time ago and it's an apartheid state, I would say like south Africa. I've never been to South Africa but imagine it's like thatIs it though, I think you are getting your facts mixed up, haha, Mrs x" Oh dear, I think you're getting tired now. Better have a good sleep and you'll feel better in the morning. | |||
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"When a state denies another population the right to procreate (that is the right to have children, to repopulate) then that is considered genocide. While the mass killing are women and children in the main, these women and children are being denied the right to further their population. " Less than 1.5%: of Palestinians have been killed, so explain again how this is genocide because the numbers don't say it is? Mrs x | |||
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"How can it be genocide of Palestinians, when 2 million Palestinians live peacefully in Israel itself? That's not genocide of a particular group. Mrs x Google genocide up instead of being ignorant. So you cannot answer this simple question, why do 2 million Palestinians choose to live peacefully in Israel, you can Google it if you want? Mrs x I don't need to. I visited Israel twice now. Once in the 80s and most recently, 1990s. Albeit a long time ago and it's an apartheid state, I would say like south Africa. I've never been to South Africa but imagine it's like thatIs it though, I think you are getting your facts mixed up, haha, Mrs x Oh dear, I think you're getting tired now. Better have a good sleep and you'll feel better in the morning." You were in Bosnia and then the Middle East then weren't you, serving your country, killing Muslims weren't you? Mrs x | |||
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"How can it be genocide of Palestinians, when 2 million Palestinians live peacefully in Israel itself? That's not genocide of a particular group. Mrs x Google genocide up instead of being ignorant. So you cannot answer this simple question, why do 2 million Palestinians choose to live peacefully in Israel, you can Google it if you want? Mrs x I am sure the 2 million that you state live in Israel, are over the moon that their people are being massacred in their thousands and really are glad that they have Israeli citizenship, and a roof over their head as their fellow people are being massacred over the boarder. Yeh that really makes sense." So why do they live there then, but you cannot explain it can you? Haha you are now just going to 'slag' me off and not answer tge question. I love it it's so easy against you, you have no answers just soundbites from the Twitterati, Mrs x | |||
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"Nuke them from orbit, it is the only way to be sure.Hiya Dan, Mrs x" I will tell you this only once, next time is up to you but there will be consequences. To name and try and shame a person on this site is NOT allowed and can lead to a ban. I have warned you. Name and shame Please don't name and shame other users. There's no way for us to police this so if you have a problem with another user, please REPORT them privately to Admin (via the report link on the profile), and block them. Admin will review, resolve. Don't be personal Personal attacks against other site users aren't allowed, even if you don't name them. If you've got a problem with someone on the site, block them. If you've got a problem with what someone writes on the forum just skip over their messages or report to admin if you think they need to take action. Don't be nasty Abuse against other site users, mods or admin isn't tolerated. Do not treat me in another way or else. | |||
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"Nuke them from orbit, it is the only way to be sure.Hiya Dan, Mrs x I will tell you this only once, next time is up to you but there will be consequences. To name and try and shame a person on this site is NOT allowed and can lead to a ban. I have warned you. Name and shame Please don't name and shame other users. There's no way for us to police this so if you have a problem with another user, please REPORT them privately to Admin (via the report link on the profile), and block them. Admin will review, resolve. Don't be personal Personal attacks against other site users aren't allowed, even if you don't name them. If you've got a problem with someone on the site, block them. If you've got a problem with what someone writes on the forum just skip over their messages or report to admin if you think they need to take action. Don't be nasty Abuse against other site users, mods or admin isn't tolerated. Do not treat me in another way or else. " Personnal attacks haha, what personal attacks? Naming and shaming? What are you on about, I've not named or shamed you. And as for the consequences, what are they? Are you some sort of deity on here that can pass judgement on things that just aren't happening. Instead of threats to people maybe try and answer their questions. If that's too difficult just ignore them pr try being polite, otherwise there might not be consequences. You do make me laugh, you are so silly at times haha, Mrs x | |||
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"Nuke them from orbit, it is the only way to be sure.Hiya Dan, Mrs x I will tell you this only once, next time is up to you but there will be consequences. To name and try and shame a person on this site is NOT allowed and can lead to a ban. I have warned you. Name and shame Please don't name and shame other users. There's no way for us to police this so if you have a problem with another user, please REPORT them privately to Admin (via the report link on the profile), and block them. Admin will review, resolve. Don't be personal Personal attacks against other site users aren't allowed, even if you don't name them. If you've got a problem with someone on the site, block them. If you've got a problem with what someone writes on the forum just skip over their messages or report to admin if you think they need to take action. Don't be nasty Abuse against other site users, mods or admin isn't tolerated. Do not treat me in another way or else. Personnal attacks haha, what personal attacks? Naming and shaming? What are you on about, I've not named or shamed you. And as for the consequences, what are they? Are you some sort of deity on here that can pass judgement on things that just aren't happening. Instead of threats to people maybe try and answer their questions. If that's too difficult just ignore them pr try being polite, otherwise there might not be consequences. You do make me laugh, you are so silly at times haha, Mrs x" What I realise is that I have been stupid, very stupid for giving you a platform to spread hate, from this post I will do that no more. Have your last say towards me as it will be your last say to me. | |||
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"Nuke them from orbit, it is the only way to be sure.Hiya Dan, Mrs x I will tell you this only once, next time is up to you but there will be consequences. To name and try and shame a person on this site is NOT allowed and can lead to a ban. I have warned you. Name and shame Please don't name and shame other users. There's no way for us to police this so if you have a problem with another user, please REPORT them privately to Admin (via the report link on the profile), and block them. Admin will review, resolve. Don't be personal Personal attacks against other site users aren't allowed, even if you don't name them. If you've got a problem with someone on the site, block them. If you've got a problem with what someone writes on the forum just skip over their messages or report to admin if you think they need to take action. Don't be nasty Abuse against other site users, mods or admin isn't tolerated. Do not treat me in another way or else. Personnal attacks haha, what personal attacks? Naming and shaming? What are you on about, I've not named or shamed you. And as for the consequences, what are they? Are you some sort of deity on here that can pass judgement on things that just aren't happening. Instead of threats to people maybe try and answer their questions. If that's too difficult just ignore them pr try being polite, otherwise there might not be consequences. You do make me laugh, you are so silly at times haha, Mrs x What I realise is that I have been stupid, very stupid for giving you a platform to spread hate, from this post I will do that no more. Have your last say towards me as it will be your last say to me." Morning... can I say that on here? Mrs x | |||
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"Nuke them from orbit, it is the only way to be sure.Hiya Dan, Mrs x I will tell you this only once, next time is up to you but there will be consequences. To name and try and shame a person on this site is NOT allowed and can lead to a ban. I have warned you. Name and shame Please don't name and shame other users. There's no way for us to police this so if you have a problem with another user, please REPORT them privately to Admin (via the report link on the profile), and block them. Admin will review, resolve. Don't be personal Personal attacks against other site users aren't allowed, even if you don't name them. If you've got a problem with someone on the site, block them. If you've got a problem with what someone writes on the forum just skip over their messages or report to admin if you think they need to take action. Don't be nasty Abuse against other site users, mods or admin isn't tolerated. Do not treat me in another way or else. Personnal attacks haha, what personal attacks? Naming and shaming? What are you on about, I've not named or shamed you. And as for the consequences, what are they? Are you some sort of deity on here that can pass judgement on things that just aren't happening. Instead of threats to people maybe try and answer their questions. If that's too difficult just ignore them pr try being polite, otherwise there might not be consequences. You do make me laugh, you are so silly at times haha, Mrs x What I realise is that I have been stupid, very stupid for giving you a platform to spread hate, from this post I will do that no more. Have your last say towards me as it will be your last say to me." No one I can see has spread hate on this thread, there's simply different opinions. Best is to stick to the subject of the OP and not get involved in personal attacks. | |||
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