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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
3 hours ago

Springfield

With the latest Cop summit on brink of chaos and collapse, is there really any use in these expensive junkets ?

The sticking point is that 'developing' countries want even more free money, but that group includes China which is both very rich and one of the worlds greatest polluters. Same goes for Brazil who have decimated their own unique eco system. And of course lots of those countries are spectacularly corrupt and that money will just go to waste.

Europe and the UK are already reducing our carbon output each year. Why should we pay those who are doing the opposite?

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
3 hours ago

nearby

Trump will withdraw again from Paris climate accord.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
3 hours ago

nearby

Global population growth is projected to increase by 25% by 2080, another two billion people.

Most of that increase from emerging economies, aspiring to western living standards and consumerism

Has this been factored into the future carbon footprint predictions.

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By *eavilMan
3 hours ago

Stalybridge

The trouble is that there will be no co-ordination or control of how the money will be spent.

Money will probably go on vanity projects, bolster paramilitaty forces as has happened in the past or simply disappear through corruption.

There is no simple solution but just throwing money at individual countries will produce no results.

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By *uffleskloofMan
3 hours ago

Cabo Verde

Whole thing is a massive shakedown. Like sla*ery reparations.

But why not try it on? What have they got to lose? Sooner or later naive fools like Starmer will hand over some cash if they keep the pressure up for long enough.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
3 hours ago

Springfield


"Global population growth is projected to increase by 25% by 2080, another two billion people.

Most of that increase from emerging economies, aspiring to western living standards and consumerism

Has this been factored into the future carbon footprint predictions. "

Really good point.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
3 hours ago

Springfield


"The trouble is that there will be no co-ordination or control of how the money will be spent.

Money will probably go on vanity projects, bolster paramilitaty forces as has happened in the past or simply disappear through corruption.

There is no simple solution but just throwing money at individual countries will produce no results."

Exactly, it's impossible to control the spending.

All our efforts and resources should go on making our own country more sustainable and improving our environmental defences. That's all we can control.

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By *ountry cowboyMan
2 hours ago

Kinross


"Global population growth is projected to increase by 25% by 2080, another two billion people.

Most of that increase from emerging economies, aspiring to western living standards and consumerism

Has this been factored into the future carbon footprint predictions. "

World overpopulation is cause of all problems in today's World

Including food, housing, employment, benefits and on top of that travel.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
2 hours ago

nearby

Carbon credits, carbon offsetting and use of carbon derivatives make it very unclear who is making real progress.

The Ftse350 indices alone has nearly 50 million units of traded carbon credits.

It would need an unbiased expert author to explain all this in simple terms and how everything else we read on this subject is at best unreliable

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
2 hours ago

nearby


"The trouble is that there will be no co-ordination or control of how the money will be spent.

Money will probably go on vanity projects, bolster paramilitaty forces as has happened in the past or simply disappear through corruption.

There is no simple solution but just throwing money at individual countries will produce no results."

I read tonight cop has agreed on £300bn funding

If my maths is correct that’s 0.03% of annual global gdp; pocket money.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 hours ago

golden fields


"The trouble is that there will be no co-ordination or control of how the money will be spent.

Money will probably go on vanity projects, bolster paramilitaty forces as has happened in the past or simply disappear through corruption.

There is no simple solution but just throwing money at individual countries will produce no results.

I read tonight cop has agreed on £300bn funding

If my maths is correct that’s 0.03% of annual global gdp; pocket money. "

Peanuts compared to what the fossil fuels industry gets.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
2 hours ago

Springfield


"Carbon credits, carbon offsetting and use of carbon derivatives make it very unclear who is making real progress.

The Ftse350 indices alone has nearly 50 million units of traded carbon credits.

It would need an unbiased expert author to explain all this in simple terms and how everything else we read on this subject is at best unreliable "

Aren't carbon credits just a massive racket ?

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
2 hours ago

Springfield


"The trouble is that there will be no co-ordination or control of how the money will be spent.

Money will probably go on vanity projects, bolster paramilitaty forces as has happened in the past or simply disappear through corruption.

There is no simple solution but just throwing money at individual countries will produce no results.

I read tonight cop has agreed on £300bn funding

If my maths is correct that’s 0.03% of annual global gdp; pocket money. "

What's the gdp of all the recipient countries ?

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By *ithintemptationsCouple
1 hour ago

plymouth

no need for COP meetings if they turn off the volcano's..

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By *ronisMan
19 minutes ago

Edinburgh


"Trump will withdraw again from Paris climate accord. "

Smart guy.

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By *ronisMan
16 minutes ago

Edinburgh

It's all a money grab.

We've been paying for them through foreigner aid for years. Nothing changes. The same ones with hands our and mouths open, asking.

The characters that walked out probably climed into private jets then went home.

Wgaf.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
14 minutes ago

Springfield

Taking money from poor people in rich countries to give to rich people in poor countries.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
11 minutes ago

golden fields


"Trump will withdraw again from Paris climate accord.

Smart guy."

Accelerating climate change is "smart"?

Amazing.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
11 minutes ago

golden fields


"no need for COP meetings if they turn off the volcano's.."

Probably one of the most sensible posts I've seen on here in a long while.

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