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By *mateur100 OP   Man
7 weeks ago

nr faversham

Rather than just scrapping the obsolete stuff to save £500m wouldn't it be better to donate the equipment to Ukraine?

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By *oo hotCouple
7 weeks ago

North West


"Rather than just scrapping the obsolete stuff to save £500m wouldn't it be better to donate the equipment to Ukraine?"

Yes

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By *usybee73Man
7 weeks ago

in the sticks


"Rather than just scrapping the obsolete stuff to save £500m wouldn't it be better to donate the equipment to Ukraine?"

What do you think they have been doing for the past couple of years ... ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago

Donate isn’t what we’re doing

Ukraine will pay us back for every piece of equipment granted to them

The issue with this equipment is that it won’t be of much use to then which has always been the issue with granting aid.Yes we have them 14 challengers but it’s a thousand mile front essentially

What was of most use to the Ukrainians was the Americans giving them Bradley’s to replace the BMPs.Prevented the Russians from moving their troops around quickly which is also what they’re aiming to do with the storm shadows

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By *exy_HornyCouple
7 weeks ago

Leigh

If they are still serviceable they should be used if they would be useful.

The main issue is that we are scrapping capabilities before their replacements are in service.

At the cusp of WW3.

Then again our comrades in government will just keep the red flags flying so their communist friends can feel welcomed.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
7 weeks ago

Pershore

Labour can't be trusted on defence. They were the ones were squandered the UK's 10 year lead in military aviation when the cancelled TSR2 (a superb fighter-bomber). Our defence industry never recovered.

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By *estivalMan
7 weeks ago

borehamwood


"Donate isn’t what we’re doing

Ukraine will pay us back for every piece of equipment granted to them

The issue with this equipment is that it won’t be of much use to then which has always been the issue with granting aid.Yes we have them 14 challengers but it’s a thousand mile front essentially

What was of most use to the Ukrainians was the Americans giving them Bradley’s to replace the BMPs.Prevented the Russians from moving their troops around quickly which is also what they’re aiming to do with the storm shadows"
hahahaha you think ukraine are going to be paying anyone back, they have lost all the land that was a money earner and america are paying there gov salarys and pensions, no one is going to see a penny

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By *ot really famousMan
7 weeks ago

monaghan


"Donate isn’t what we’re doing

Ukraine will pay us back for every piece of equipment granted to them

The issue with this equipment is that it won’t be of much use to then which has always been the issue with granting aid.Yes we have them 14 challengers but it’s a thousand mile front essentially

What was of most use to the Ukrainians was the Americans giving them Bradley’s to replace the BMPs.Prevented the Russians from moving their troops around quickly which is also what they’re aiming to do with the storm shadowshahahaha you think ukraine are going to be paying anyone back, they have lost all the land that was a money earner and america are paying there gov salarys and pensions, no one is going to see a penny"
.did the idiot box in the corner of the room tell you that...?

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
7 weeks ago

nearby


"Donate isn’t what we’re doing

Ukraine will pay us back for every piece of equipment granted to them

The issue with this equipment is that it won’t be of much use to then which has always been the issue with granting aid.Yes we have them 14 challengers but it’s a thousand mile front essentially

What was of most use to the Ukrainians was the Americans giving them Bradley’s to replace the BMPs.Prevented the Russians from moving their troops around quickly which is also what they’re aiming to do with the storm shadowshahahaha you think ukraine are going to be paying anyone back, they have lost all the land that was a money earner and america are paying there gov salarys and pensions, no one is going to see a penny"

The money won’t come from Ukraine. It will come from the $630bn seized Russian currency assets held under global sanctions.

£500m in old kit, hand it over to ukraine, they actually need it.

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By *oxychick35Couple
7 weeks ago

thornaby

Australia handed them 49 tanks they where going to scrap but scrapped helicopters they could of sent them doesn’t make sence to me shows how shit Russia actually are when ukrain are holding them back with the wests old equipment

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By *ggdrasil66Man
7 weeks ago

Saltdean

I hate the idea of this, but I can’t see Ukraine beating the Russians, no matter how many weapons they are given. I just get the feeling that they will run out of combat personnel. Meanwhile the Russians will continually send more and more, because of their massive population, that and the hundred thousand trained troops sent from North Korea. I know, it stinks, but unless we start sending troops (and we have a massive shortage of them anyway) the Ukraine don’t stand a chance.

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By *oo hotCouple
7 weeks ago

North West


"I hate the idea of this, but I can’t see Ukraine beating the Russians, no matter how many weapons they are given. I just get the feeling that they will run out of combat personnel. Meanwhile the Russians will continually send more and more, because of their massive population, that and the hundred thousand trained troops sent from North Korea. I know, it stinks, but unless we start sending troops (and we have a massive shortage of them anyway) the Ukraine don’t stand a chance."

So how did the Afghans beat the Russians?

This whole thing has gone very badly for Russia and right now I think that Putin just needs someone to give him a face-saving off-ramp to allow him and Russia to take stock.

If Trump sells out Ukraine (as is widely predicted) he will go down in history as an even worse appeaser than Neville Chamberlain because in this case, Russia will eventually take over the whole of Ukraine once they have restocked their military reserves and stockpiles of equipment and ammunition. Many in the West just don't understand the mentality of Dictators and assume that they have the same levels of compassion, understanding and reasoning as any normal person. They don't, and Putin is a psychopath.

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago


"I hate the idea of this, but I can’t see Ukraine beating the Russians, no matter how many weapons they are given. I just get the feeling that they will run out of combat personnel. Meanwhile the Russians will continually send more and more, because of their massive population, that and the hundred thousand trained troops sent from North Korea. I know, it stinks, but unless we start sending troops (and we have a massive shortage of them anyway) the Ukraine don’t stand a chance.

So how did the Afghans beat the Russians?

This whole thing has gone very badly for Russia and right now I think that Putin just needs someone to give him a face-saving off-ramp to allow him and Russia to take stock.

If Trump sells out Ukraine (as is widely predicted) he will go down in history as an even worse appeaser than Neville Chamberlain because in this case, Russia will eventually take over the whole of Ukraine once they have restocked their military reserves and stockpiles of equipment and ammunition. Many in the West just don't understand the mentality of Dictators and assume that they have the same levels of compassion, understanding and reasoning as any normal person. They don't, and Putin is a psychopath."

After Ukraine Russia will no doubt try something with Moldova as well.If Russia is not stopped there then it will be Azerbaijan and that will get the Turks involved.That war would lead to the deaths of millions of Russians and Turks and the ruination of both counties

Ukraine holding them is the best possible outcome

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
7 weeks ago

nearby

And 5,000 civil service jobs are set to go at the Ministry of Defence

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