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"Nah. Putin knows the endgame if he decides to fire first. " He's recently changed the nuke policy to give him more control over pushing that button. Mr F. | |||
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"Nah. Putin knows the endgame if he decides to fire first. He's recently changed the nuke policy to give him more control over pushing that button. Mr F. " Indeed, and all it takes is the pride of a person in power on the verge of losing to level the playing field in terms of even if "we win, we all lose" | |||
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"Well after a quick look, Ukraine just hit Russia with a long range US made Missile, and as of 17 hours ago the UK are set to give them their version of said missile, so if Putin isn't all talk and he lowers the setpoint for launching then we are all ffked here, Considering the Russians have already shared what they have in mind for the UK.and by default Ireland sinks with her." Putin said, I believe, that he has a nuclear missile that can reach London. | |||
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"Well after a quick look, Ukraine just hit Russia with a long range US made Missile, and as of 17 hours ago the UK are set to give them their version of said missile, so if Putin isn't all talk and he lowers the setpoint for launching then we are all ffked here, Considering the Russians have already shared what they have in mind for the UK.and by default Ireland sinks with her. Putin said, I believe, that he has a nuclear missile that can reach London. " A sarmat missile it's yield is enough to wipe out the entire country dropped on London would take most of the country. | |||
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"Well after a quick look, Ukraine just hit Russia with a long range US made Missile, and as of 17 hours ago the UK are set to give them their version of said missile, so if Putin isn't all talk and he lowers the setpoint for launching then we are all ffked here, Considering the Russians have already shared what they have in mind for the UK.and by default Ireland sinks with her." And Ireland isn't even in NATO | |||
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"Are we going to see the start of WW3 soon? " Probably yes; it's all due to the £22 Billion Black Hole 🤣😂🤣 | |||
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"Well after a quick look, Ukraine just hit Russia with a long range US made Missile, and as of 17 hours ago the UK are set to give them their version of said missile, so if Putin isn't all talk and he lowers the setpoint for launching then we are all ffked here, Considering the Russians have already shared what they have in mind for the UK.and by default Ireland sinks with her. Putin said, I believe, that he has a nuclear missile that can reach London. " they don't need that, they released a vid a while back showing exactly where they would detonate one in the north Atlantic, the wave caused would wipe out most of the UK and almost certainly all of Ireland and in theory they never launched against the UK. | |||
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"Are we going to see the start of WW3 soon? Probably yes; it's all due to the £22 Billion Black Hole 🤣😂🤣" I was naively assuming it was down to Brexit but the more I think about it, the more reassured I am...certain posters maintain that SKS is doing a great job | |||
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"When these long range missiles start to fall behind Russian lines, they might well begin hostilities towards the US and UK. I hope not, but they have already stated that supplying the Ukrainians with these weapons would be an ‘act of war.’ So don’t be surprised when the shit hits the fan." So.... they have supplied the Ukrainians with Atacams and Storm Shadow's for what, a year or more and there's been no shit fan hitting or WW3. What they have said "it could be seen as justification" and "could provoke" and "possibly be seen as", so hyping it up leads nowhere. Russia and Putin will do what they want no matter if there's a war or not. They'll off someone in a foreign land, blow up a plane, cut some internet cable or pipe line - they have reasonably failed in this war by any measure. Time, resources spent, casualty rates, financing, global support, even face - a superpower without an effective military. | |||
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"Why..What Happened OP ?" Maybe he left the loo seat up. | |||
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"If it does I’m sure that there will be plenty of volunteers for the front line from the Fab politics forum. No shortage of armchair corporals talking tough and ready for a fight with the Russkis." ...are you going yourself..? | |||
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"If it does I’m sure that there will be plenty of volunteers for the front line from the Fab politics forum. No shortage of armchair corporals talking tough and ready for a fight with the Russkis....are you going yourself..?" Why would I go? I’m a pacifist. And too old to be conscripted. | |||
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"Well after a quick look, Ukraine just hit Russia with a long range US made Missile, and as of 17 hours ago the UK are set to give them their version of said missile, so if Putin isn't all talk and he lowers the setpoint for launching then we are all ffked here, Considering the Russians have already shared what they have in mind for the UK.and by default Ireland sinks with her. Putin said, I believe, that he has a nuclear missile that can reach London. A sarmat missile it's yield is enough to wipe out the entire country dropped on London would take most of the country." Plus side, I'd go quickly. | |||
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"My grandsons would sign up if we were threatened with an invasion. One wouldn't be allowed to go, but the others would be straight in. So would their cousins and friends. " must be mad going to fight for this shithole theyll get no thanks yous | |||
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"My grandsons would sign up if we were threatened with an invasion. One wouldn't be allowed to go, but the others would be straight in. So would their cousins and friends. must be mad going to fight for this shithole theyll get no thanks yous " Patriotism at its finest there … | |||
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"My grandsons would sign up if we were threatened with an invasion. One wouldn't be allowed to go, but the others would be straight in. So would their cousins and friends. must be mad going to fight for this shithole theyll get no thanks yous Patriotism at its finest there … " dont exactly get 1st class treatment afterwards do you? For all the trauma and damage providing you make it back home and to fight for what? Tell me exactly why we should be fighting a war between russia and Ukraine??? | |||
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"My grandsons would sign up if we were threatened with an invasion. One wouldn't be allowed to go, but the others would be straight in. So would their cousins and friends. must be mad going to fight for this shithole theyll get no thanks yous Patriotism at its finest there … dont exactly get 1st class treatment afterwards do you? For all the trauma and damage providing you make it back home and to fight for what? Tell me exactly why we should be fighting a war between russia and Ukraine??? " sorry misread the invasion part lol🤦pitchfork and air rifle is zero'd in and ready | |||
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"If it does I’m sure that there will be plenty of volunteers for the front line from the Fab politics forum. No shortage of armchair corporals talking tough and ready for a fight with the Russkis." Just hide under the bed and let others do the soldiering eh? | |||
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"My grandsons would sign up if we were threatened with an invasion. One wouldn't be allowed to go, but the others would be straight in. So would their cousins and friends. must be mad going to fight for this shithole theyll get no thanks yous Patriotism at its finest there … dont exactly get 1st class treatment afterwards do you? For all the trauma and damage providing you make it back home and to fight for what? Tell me exactly why we should be fighting a war between russia and Ukraine??? " That is a fair point, although I do remember Starmer saying “ Veterans represent the very best of our country, and we must honour their sacrifices” in relation to rough sleeping and mental health. It was a 3.5 million pledge, I’m not sure what has happened to that? | |||
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"My grandsons would sign up if we were threatened with an invasion. One wouldn't be allowed to go, but the others would be straight in. So would their cousins and friends. must be mad going to fight for this shithole theyll get no thanks yous Patriotism at its finest there … dont exactly get 1st class treatment afterwards do you? For all the trauma and damage providing you make it back home and to fight for what? Tell me exactly why we should be fighting a war between russia and Ukraine??? " So if Ukraine goes Ruski, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Moldova will likely go. It'll mean Russia is with fucknuts Belarus has border with Poland. As Hungry is pro Russia and Slovakia doesn't really like the EU if pushed it wouldn't take much persuasion. The far right is gaining traction in Germany, so politically there's a lot of instability that could spread very quickly. That aside, Ukraine was known as the bread basket of Europe, as the largest exporter of wheat, it also has has huge reserves of metals - copper, iron. It was originally thought the war was due to the cost of Russia transporting oil and gas across Ukraine, by ceasing the land it wouldn't have to pay it. Why would people defend the land of others? All things weighed, Democratic freedom v's autocracy I suppose. | |||
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"My grandsons would sign up if we were threatened with an invasion. One wouldn't be allowed to go, but the others would be straight in. So would their cousins and friends. must be mad going to fight for this shithole theyll get no thanks yous Patriotism at its finest there … dont exactly get 1st class treatment afterwards do you? For all the trauma and damage providing you make it back home and to fight for what? Tell me exactly why we should be fighting a war between russia and Ukraine??? That is a fair point, although I do remember Starmer saying “ Veterans represent the very best of our country, and we must honour their sacrifices” in relation to rough sleeping and mental health. It was a 3.5 million pledge, I’m not sure what has happened to that?" been used up on air miles now | |||
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"If it does I’m sure that there will be plenty of volunteers for the front line from the Fab politics forum. No shortage of armchair corporals talking tough and ready for a fight with the Russkis. Just hide under the bed and let others do the soldiering eh?" As I said I am too old to be conscripted. I’ll probably just go and move to the Caribbean and live out my days there. But best of luck. Or maybe Labour will have me defending the local mosque with a broom handle. | |||
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"No Nothing ever happens OP Remember that" It certainly won't happen while there is money to be made milking consumers in the build up to Christmas. Start worrying during the five weeks between pay days during December/January. When that time comes, people will be looking for a quick release from their debt and probably welcome it. | |||
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"If Russia was as strong as the west seems to believe why would it need Iranian drones, Chinese support and north Korean troops?" Russia doesn't need those things. Putin is just using them to show that Russia has allies and isn't alone in the world. | |||
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"If it does I’m sure that there will be plenty of volunteers for the front line from the Fab politics forum. No shortage of armchair corporals talking tough and ready for a fight with the Russkis. Just hide under the bed and let others do the soldiering eh? As I said I am too old to be conscripted. I’ll probably just go and move to the Caribbean and live out my days there. But best of luck. Or maybe Labour will have me defending the local mosque with a broom handle." You can fly a drone as well as anybody  | |||
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"If it does I’m sure that there will be plenty of volunteers for the front line from the Fab politics forum. No shortage of armchair corporals talking tough and ready for a fight with the Russkis. Just hide under the bed and let others do the soldiering eh? As I said I am too old to be conscripted. I’ll probably just go and move to the Caribbean and live out my days there. But best of luck. Or maybe Labour will have me defending the local mosque with a broom handle." Oh he got to mention mosques in a thread about WW3, bless.  | |||
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"If it does I’m sure that there will be plenty of volunteers for the front line from the Fab politics forum. No shortage of armchair corporals talking tough and ready for a fight with the Russkis. Just hide under the bed and let others do the soldiering eh? As I said I am too old to be conscripted. I’ll probably just go and move to the Caribbean and live out my days there. But best of luck. Or maybe Labour will have me defending the local mosque with a broom handle. You can fly a drone as well as anybody "Well you seem pretty enthusiast about it all. Ukraine is desperate for volunteers. No need to wait for the UK to get involved…. Time to put your money where your mouth is comrade. | |||
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"Nah. Putin knows the endgame if he decides to fire first. " Yes he does and that in itself is worrying. Putin is over 70 and, if you believe some of the reports, not in great health. When Hitler knew the end was coming he set out to take the rest of Germany (or as many as he could) with him. Had he had one Hitler would have certainly pressed the button in those last days and to hell with the consequences, thankfully he didn't have that option. Putin's age, health and paranoia could have a big part to play. | |||
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"Don't worry, when Trump gets in things will be resolved. He is a Putin supporter, i think he will stop support from the US to Ukraine. All in the name of peace." ...trump said he would end the war the day after he was elected. Just being a windbag as usual. | |||
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"Don't worry, when Trump gets in things will be resolved. He is a Putin supporter, i think he will stop support from the US to Ukraine. All in the name of peace....trump said he would end the war the day after he was elected. Just being a windbag as usual. " He's not president yet. Still won't do it in a day but give him a chance. Because if he fails we are all fucked. With lame duck leaders in France and Germany and Starmer in the UK. Like it or not, Trump is our best chance. | |||
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"Don't worry, when Trump gets in things will be resolved. He is a Putin supporter, i think he will stop support from the US to Ukraine. All in the name of peace....trump said he would end the war the day after he was elected. Just being a windbag as usual. He's not president yet. Still won't do it in a day but give him a chance. Because if he fails we are all fucked. With lame duck leaders in France and Germany and Starmer in the UK. Like it or not, Trump is our best chance. " ...you obviously didn't read what I posted....he said he would end the war the day after he got elected...not the day of his inauguration ..you know the difference right? | |||
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"Don't worry, when Trump gets in things will be resolved. He is a Putin supporter, i think he will stop support from the US to Ukraine. All in the name of peace....trump said he would end the war the day after he was elected. Just being a windbag as usual. " He's not in power yet, what do you expect him to do? Mr F. | |||
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"Don't worry, when Trump gets in things will be resolved. He is a Putin supporter, i think he will stop support from the US to Ukraine. All in the name of peace....trump said he would end the war the day after he was elected. Just being a windbag as usual. He's not president yet. Still won't do it in a day but give him a chance. Because if he fails we are all fucked. With lame duck leaders in France and Germany and Starmer in the UK. Like it or not, Trump is our best chance. ...you obviously didn't read what I posted....he said he would end the war the day after he got elected...not the day of his inauguration ..you know the difference right?" Yes I do know the difference but I think you are being a bit pedantic on his choice of words. Elected/inaugurated, it's very easy to pick the wrong word in the middle of a rally. He knows and anybody with a modicum of intelligence would also know that he can't do anything until after 20th January. To be honest I don't actually know which word he used, maybe he even said "when I become president" but who really cares? If you want to split hairs over a single word then there isn't much hope. | |||
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"Are we going to see the start of WW3 soon? " It's inevitable unfortunately. | |||
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"Don't worry, when Trump gets in things will be resolved. He is a Putin supporter, i think he will stop support from the US to Ukraine. All in the name of peace....trump said he would end the war the day after he was elected. Just being a windbag as usual. He's not in power yet, what do you expect him to do? Mr F. " ...what he said he'd do....but that would be a first | |||
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"Don't worry, when Trump gets in things will be resolved. He is a Putin supporter, i think he will stop support from the US to Ukraine. All in the name of peace....trump said he would end the war the day after he was elected. Just being a windbag as usual. He's not president yet. Still won't do it in a day but give him a chance. Because if he fails we are all fucked. With lame duck leaders in France and Germany and Starmer in the UK. Like it or not, Trump is our best chance. ...you obviously didn't read what I posted....he said he would end the war the day after he got elected...not the day of his inauguration ..you know the difference right? Yes I do know the difference but I think you are being a bit pedantic on his choice of words. Elected/inaugurated, it's very easy to pick the wrong word in the middle of a rally. He knows and anybody with a modicum of intelligence would also know that he can't do anything until after 20th January. To be honest I don't actually know which word he used, maybe he even said "when I become president" but who really cares? If you want to split hairs over a single word then there isn't much hope." ...he repeated it quite a few times....he's a blowhard...that's the bottom line | |||
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"Don't worry, when Trump gets in things will be resolved. He is a Putin supporter, i think he will stop support from the US to Ukraine. All in the name of peace....trump said he would end the war the day after he was elected. Just being a windbag as usual. He's not president yet. Still won't do it in a day but give him a chance. Because if he fails we are all fucked. With lame duck leaders in France and Germany and Starmer in the UK. Like it or not, Trump is our best chance. ...you obviously didn't read what I posted....he said he would end the war the day after he got elected...not the day of his inauguration ..you know the difference right? Yes I do know the difference but I think you are being a bit pedantic on his choice of words. Elected/inaugurated, it's very easy to pick the wrong word in the middle of a rally. He knows and anybody with a modicum of intelligence would also know that he can't do anything until after 20th January. To be honest I don't actually know which word he used, maybe he even said "when I become president" but who really cares? If you want to split hairs over a single word then there isn't much hope....he repeated it quite a few times....he's a blowhard...that's the bottom line " Maybe he is but don't judge him before he's even started the job. To be honest I think he was an awful choice as president. For me his only redeeming feature was that he wasn't Kamala Harris who I think would have been 10 times worse. Certainly on the subject of Ukraine. Remember that the current escalation is Biden's doing, nothing to do with Trump and Harris is still vice president. | |||
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"Don't worry, when Trump gets in things will be resolved. He is a Putin supporter, i think he will stop support from the US to Ukraine. All in the name of peace....trump said he would end the war the day after he was elected. Just being a windbag as usual. He's not president yet. Still won't do it in a day but give him a chance. Because if he fails we are all fucked. With lame duck leaders in France and Germany and Starmer in the UK. Like it or not, Trump is our best chance. ...you obviously didn't read what I posted....he said he would end the war the day after he got elected...not the day of his inauguration ..you know the difference right? Yes I do know the difference but I think you are being a bit pedantic on his choice of words. Elected/inaugurated, it's very easy to pick the wrong word in the middle of a rally. He knows and anybody with a modicum of intelligence would also know that he can't do anything until after 20th January. To be honest I don't actually know which word he used, maybe he even said "when I become president" but who really cares? If you want to split hairs over a single word then there isn't much hope....he repeated it quite a few times....he's a blowhard...that's the bottom line Maybe he is but don't judge him before he's even started the job. To be honest I think he was an awful choice as president. For me his only redeeming feature was that he wasn't Kamala Harris who I think would have been 10 times worse. Certainly on the subject of Ukraine. Remember that the current escalation is Biden's doing, nothing to do with Trump and Harris is still vice president." ...thx current escalation is putins doing...no one elses | |||
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"The worlds due a big human cull " Why? | |||
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"The worlds due a big human cull Why?" Coz he said so. Really tho what a ridiculous and totally callous thing to say. | |||
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"Putin is mostly just talking and he knows how to get much of what he wants from the West and other countries. He'll tinker and make noise and Trump will probably largely force Ukraine to dispense some of its sovereign rights, so that he can brag, without him doing or losing anything. It will be so wrong if this happens but I'm assuming that's what he'll force, following him being spoon fed by Putin. So WW3 unlikely from this " I’m still not seeing how Trump can force Ukraine to do so.Russia has been trying to take two of the oblasts it demands for over a decade now.I do consider it likely that some arrangement over the Crimea in Russias favour will be reached but beyond that I can’t see what else | |||
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"Putin is mostly just talking and he knows how to get much of what he wants from the West and other countries. He'll tinker and make noise and Trump will probably largely force Ukraine to dispense some of its sovereign rights, so that he can brag, without him doing or losing anything. It will be so wrong if this happens but I'm assuming that's what he'll force, following him being spoon fed by Putin. So WW3 unlikely from this " Trump and Putin's wishes align perfectly here. Putin wants an end to the costly "special military operation" with a big win of Ukrainian territory and minimum repercussions for Russia's aggression. Trump wants to be know as the President who stopped WW3. So Putin will continue with the war stories and Trump pretending to play hard ball about fixing the peace. | |||
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" Trump and Putin's wishes align perfectly here. Putin wants an end to the costly "special military operation" with a big win of Ukrainian territory and minimum repercussions for Russia's aggression. Trump wants to be know as the President who stopped WW3. So Putin will continue with the war stories and Trump pretending to play hard ball about fixing the peace. " Easy peasy,then. When will the war end? Will it all be over by Christmas or will the Russians and the Ukranians simply take a break for a Christmas game of cricket and carry on a bit longer? | |||
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"Putin is mostly just talking and he knows how to get much of what he wants from the West and other countries. He'll tinker and make noise and Trump will probably largely force Ukraine to dispense some of its sovereign rights, so that he can brag, without him doing or losing anything. It will be so wrong if this happens but I'm assuming that's what he'll force, following him being spoon fed by Putin. So WW3 unlikely from this I’m still not seeing how Trump can force Ukraine to do so.Russia has been trying to take two of the oblasts it demands for over a decade now.I do consider it likely that some arrangement over the Crimea in Russias favour will be reached but beyond that I can’t see what else" The US funds the entire Ukraine state, not just its military. Without US aid Ukraine will collapse. What happens if Trump forces Ukraine to do a deal? It may suit Zelensky as he needs a way out. There is no way he can win this war. He’s running out of men and sooner or later the West will get bored of it all. But will the neo Nazis in the Ukrainian military accept any compromise with Russia? What happens if they don’t? Civil war in Ukraine? | |||
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" Trump and Putin's wishes align perfectly here. Putin wants an end to the costly "special military operation" with a big win of Ukrainian territory and minimum repercussions for Russia's aggression. Trump wants to be know as the President who stopped WW3. So Putin will continue with the war stories and Trump pretending to play hard ball about fixing the peace. Easy peasy,then. When will the war end? Will it all be over by Christmas or will the Russians and the Ukranians simply take a break for a Christmas game of cricket and carry on a bit longer?" The US will threaten to withdraw support, Musk will disconnect Starlink, Putin will tell Trump what he wants and Ukraine will be neatly shafted in the interests of saving us from WW3. And we will all be grateful. | |||
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