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"The formula was simple: put up an electable candidate and win. The democrats put up arguably their most unloved politician, whose core selling point was "I'm not Trump" and the pool boost came from "at least I'm not senile". What is it about democrats going against their own best interests by putting up unelectable candidates? Even Biden was barely electable and got in on a ticket of "I'm not Trump". The democratic party (and the US in general) deserve better." *Poll boost. But a pool busy could also be fun. | |||
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" Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg " It's such a travesty that his sexuality will likely get in the way of either his nomination or electability. | |||
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"The formula was simple: put up an electable candidate and win. The democrats put up arguably their most unloved politician, whose core selling point was "I'm not Trump" and the pool boost came from "at least I'm not senile". What is it about democrats going against their own best interests by putting up unelectable candidates? Even Biden was barely electable and got in on a ticket of "I'm not Trump". The democratic party (and the US in general) deserve better. " They also have an uncanny knack of pissing off people at both ends of the political spectrum on an issue (e.g. Palestine/Israel). Labour are in a similar boat. They got away with it this time, due to huge dissatisfaction with the Torys, but the way they're going it won't be repeated. | |||
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"Be interesting to see who runs in 28… I can think of a couple straight off California governor gavin newsome Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg " If you're right then expect JD Vance to be #48. They are by far and away the worst of the democrat party. They already lost their best candidates in RFKjr and Tulsi Gabbard | |||
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"Democrats screwed up. They persisted far too long with a clearly incapacitated Biden, then chose a lightweight, muddled replacement with no charisma. Given his chequered past, Trump should have been easily beatable, but the Dems blew it." Exactly this | |||
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"Democrats screwed up. They persisted far too long with a clearly incapacitated Biden, then chose a lightweight, muddled replacement with no charisma. Given his chequered past, Trump should have been easily beatable, but the Dems blew it. Exactly this " Obama or Bill Clinton would have beaten Trump out of sight. Charismatic politicians with a popular touch and focused on the economy, complete opposite of Harris and Hilary. | |||
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"Democrats screwed up. They persisted far too long with a clearly incapacitated Biden, then chose a lightweight, muddled replacement with no charisma. Given his chequered past, Trump should have been easily beatable, but the Dems blew it. Exactly this Obama or Bill Clinton would have beaten Trump out of sight. Charismatic politicians with a popular touch and focused on the economy, complete opposite of Harris and Hilary." Exactly | |||
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"The formula was simple: put up an electable candidate and win. The democrats put up arguably their most unloved politician, whose core selling point was "I'm not Trump" and the pool boost came from "at least I'm not senile". What is it about democrats going against their own best interests by putting up unelectable candidates? Even Biden was barely electable and got in on a ticket of "I'm not Trump". The democratic party (and the US in general) deserve better." putting friends of Diddy on stage with Harris Beyoncé jlo and the rest wasn’t very clever lol | |||
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"Be interesting to see who runs in 28… I can think of a couple straight off California governor gavin newsome Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg If you're right then expect JD Vance to be #48. They are by far and away the worst of the democrat party. They already lost their best candidates in RFKjr and Tulsi Gabbard" Vance cannot now become president. Trump expects his VP to be a bum licker. Americans won't vote for a bum licker. | |||
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"Be interesting to see who runs in 28… I can think of a couple straight off California governor gavin newsome Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg " Why are you so quick to toss Harris aside when you were singing her praises just a couple of days ago lol | |||
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"Be interesting to see who runs in 28… I can think of a couple straight off California governor gavin newsome Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg If you're right then expect JD Vance to be #48. They are by far and away the worst of the democrat party. They already lost their best candidates in RFKjr and Tulsi Gabbard Vance cannot now become president. Trump expects his VP to be a bum licker. Americans won't vote for a bum licker." What a silly thing to say VP Biden win a landslide victory Silly silly silly | |||
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"Be interesting to see who runs in 28… I can think of a couple straight off California governor gavin newsome Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg If you're right then expect JD Vance to be #48. They are by far and away the worst of the democrat party. They already lost their best candidates in RFKjr and Tulsi Gabbard Vance cannot now become president. Trump expects his VP to be a bum licker. Americans won't vote for a bum licker." vance a bum licker lol he’s ex military they kick bums not lick them | |||
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"Be interesting to see who runs in 28… I can think of a couple straight off California governor gavin newsome Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg If you're right then expect JD Vance to be #48. They are by far and away the worst of the democrat party. They already lost their best candidates in RFKjr and Tulsi Gabbard Vance cannot now become president. Trump expects his VP to be a bum licker. Americans won't vote for a bum licker.vance a bum licker lol he’s ex military they kick bums not lick them " He was a military journalist  | |||
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"Be interesting to see who runs in 28… I can think of a couple straight off California governor gavin newsome Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg If you're right then expect JD Vance to be #48. They are by far and away the worst of the democrat party. They already lost their best candidates in RFKjr and Tulsi Gabbard Vance cannot now become president. Trump expects his VP to be a bum licker. Americans won't vote for a bum licker. What a silly thing to say VP Biden win a landslide victory Silly silly silly " Trump does not allow anyone in his shadow to have power, limelight or be anything other than a sycophant. If Vance plays the part that Trump needs him to, he will completely lose any hard image. | |||
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"The Democrats lost because they don’t represent working people - they are the party of the well off metropolitan. They look down on those who have not done well from globalisation. They look down on those who are not well educated or have to work with their hands. These people don’t share the “progressive” world view that the left push. They don’t really trust trump but at least, for them, he is not telling them they are “garbage”." They lost for one reason, the economy , | |||
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"Biden support for Benny the child killer did not go down well with voters either. " Biden wasn’t on the ticket , tbh I don’t think Americans care about criminals | |||
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"Biden support for Benny the child killer did not go down well with voters either. Biden wasn’t on the ticket , tbh I don’t think Americans care about criminals " They just elected one. | |||
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"Be interesting to see who runs in 28… I can think of a couple straight off California governor gavin newsome Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg " Would bet American conservatives could care less about petey, but all three if those are just as weak as kamala and tampon timmy. There were a lot of steps that were taken to kurtail voter fraud by conservative states and through the courts. Looking at california numbers it looks like they were still able to have the fix in. Basically does not matter which puppet goes in when they got the fix in | |||
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"Be interesting to see who runs in 28… I can think of a couple straight off California governor gavin newsome Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg Would bet American conservatives could care less about petey, but all three if those are just as weak as kamala and tampon timmy. There were a lot of steps that were taken to kurtail voter fraud by conservative states and through the courts. Looking at california numbers it looks like they were still able to have the fix in. Basically does not matter which puppet goes in when they got the fix in" There was voter fraud, storm that capital | |||
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"Biden support for Benny the child killer did not go down well with voters either. Biden wasn’t on the ticket , tbh I don’t think Americans care about criminals " On what basis | |||
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"Biden support for Benny the child killer did not go down well with voters either. Biden wasn’t on the ticket , tbh I don’t think Americans care about criminals On what basis " They just voted one as president , did you see the results | |||
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"Biden support for Benny the child killer did not go down well with voters either. Biden wasn’t on the ticket , tbh I don’t think Americans care about criminals On what basis They just voted one as president , did you see the results " They did, and votes win elections as you're so keen on telling us... I suggest you suck it up because he's there for a term | |||
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"Biden support for Benny the child killer did not go down well with voters either. Biden wasn’t on the ticket , tbh I don’t think Americans care about criminals On what basis They just voted one as president , did you see the results They did, and votes win elections as you're so keen on telling us... I suggest you suck it up because he's there for a term " PMSL, are you ok? Have you been reading my posts, I stated he deserved to win a few times, he was the best candidate, he thrashed Harris | |||
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"Biden support for Benny the child killer did not go down well with voters either. Biden wasn’t on the ticket , tbh I don’t think Americans care about criminals On what basis They just voted one as president , did you see the results They did, and votes win elections as you're so keen on telling us... I suggest you suck it up because he's there for a term PMSL, are you ok? Have you been reading my posts, I stated he deserved to win a few times, he was the best candidate, he thrashed Harris " A criminal deserved to win? | |||
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"Biden support for Benny the child killer did not go down well with voters either. Biden wasn’t on the ticket , tbh I don’t think Americans care about criminals On what basis They just voted one as president , did you see the results They did, and votes win elections as you're so keen on telling us... I suggest you suck it up because he's there for a term PMSL, are you ok? Have you been reading my posts, I stated he deserved to win a few times, he was the best candidate, he thrashed Harris A criminal deserved to win?" Yes, according to the American electorate he was the best candidate, fuck all to do with me or you, we couldn’t vote , but the electorate have spoken | |||
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"Biden support for Benny the child killer did not go down well with voters either. Biden wasn’t on the ticket , tbh I don’t think Americans care about criminals On what basis They just voted one as president , did you see the results They did, and votes win elections as you're so keen on telling us... I suggest you suck it up because he's there for a term PMSL, are you ok? Have you been reading my posts, I stated he deserved to win a few times, he was the best candidate, he thrashed Harris A criminal deserved to win? Yes, according to the American electorate he was the best candidate, fuck all to do with me or you, we couldn’t vote , but the electorate have spoken " Fab...so why not shut up about it | |||
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"Be interesting to see who runs in 28… I can think of a couple straight off California governor gavin newsome Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg Why are you so quick to toss Harris aside when you were singing her praises just a couple of days ago lol" Because normal convention is that if you don’t win, you move aside…. I actually don’t think she was that “bad “ a candidate… she paid for not being to distance herself from the current administration, and in a lot of countries, the party that was in control coming out of COVID paid the price for the recovery taking longer and people feeling it in their pockets! (Irony being literally last week the Wall Street Journal called this the best economic recovery ever!) Trump painted a dark picture with a lot of dark promises attached, let’s see if he goes through with them! | |||
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"Be interesting to see who runs in 28… I can think of a couple straight off California governor gavin newsome Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg Why are you so quick to toss Harris aside when you were singing her praises just a couple of days ago lol Because normal convention is that if you don’t win, you move aside…. I actually don’t think she was that “bad “ a candidate… she paid for not being to distance herself from the current administration, and in a lot of countries, the party that was in control coming out of COVID paid the price for the recovery taking longer and people feeling it in their pockets! (Irony being literally last week the Wall Street Journal called this the best economic recovery ever!) Trump painted a dark picture with a lot of dark promises attached, let’s see if he goes through with them! " Who do you think will be the next democrat presidential candidate | |||
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"Be interesting to see who runs in 28… I can think of a couple straight off California governor gavin newsome Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg Why are you so quick to toss Harris aside when you were singing her praises just a couple of days ago lol Because normal convention is that if you don’t win, you move aside…. I actually don’t think she was that “bad “ a candidate… she paid for not being to distance herself from the current administration, and in a lot of countries, the party that was in control coming out of COVID paid the price for the recovery taking longer and people feeling it in their pockets! (Irony being literally last week the Wall Street Journal called this the best economic recovery ever!) Trump painted a dark picture with a lot of dark promises attached, let’s see if he goes through with them! Who do you think will be the next democrat presidential candidate " Why do you care? | |||
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"Be interesting to see who runs in 28… I can think of a couple straight off California governor gavin newsome Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg Why are you so quick to toss Harris aside when you were singing her praises just a couple of days ago lol Because normal convention is that if you don’t win, you move aside…. I actually don’t think she was that “bad “ a candidate… she paid for not being to distance herself from the current administration, and in a lot of countries, the party that was in control coming out of COVID paid the price for the recovery taking longer and people feeling it in their pockets! (Irony being literally last week the Wall Street Journal called this the best economic recovery ever!) Trump painted a dark picture with a lot of dark promises attached, let’s see if he goes through with them! Who do you think will be the next democrat presidential candidate " The problem with gavin newsome is that you paint him with the same “California liberal “ brush as you did for Harris even though he is doing a really good job as governor Pete is an interesting case as I think as a person.. if America is not ready for a woman… or even a black woman .. as president, they are not ready for a gay married president especially with on of the things of the project 2025 to do list is to roll back protections for LGBT people ( I am willing to take a bet that a “southern” state will take a stab at repealing gay marriage legislation… and it end up at SCOTUS) I am a huge fan of Gretchen Whitmer.. done a brilliant job and a super popular governor… same can be said of Josh Shapiro So those two as pres/VP and I always thought Pete would be the perfect secretary of state | |||
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"Be interesting to see who runs in 28… I can think of a couple straight off California governor gavin newsome Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer Transportation Secretary pete buttiteg Why are you so quick to toss Harris aside when you were singing her praises just a couple of days ago lol Because normal convention is that if you don’t win, you move aside…. I actually don’t think she was that “bad “ a candidate… she paid for not being to distance herself from the current administration, and in a lot of countries, the party that was in control coming out of COVID paid the price for the recovery taking longer and people feeling it in their pockets! (Irony being literally last week the Wall Street Journal called this the best economic recovery ever!) Trump painted a dark picture with a lot of dark promises attached, let’s see if he goes through with them! Who do you think will be the next democrat presidential candidate The problem with gavin newsome is that you paint him with the same “California liberal “ brush as you did for Harris even though he is doing a really good job as governor Pete is an interesting case as I think as a person.. if America is not ready for a woman… or even a black woman .. as president, they are not ready for a gay married president especially with on of the things of the project 2025 to do list is to roll back protections for LGBT people ( I am willing to take a bet that a “southern” state will take a stab at repealing gay marriage legislation… and it end up at SCOTUS) I am a huge fan of Gretchen Whitmer.. done a brilliant job and a super popular governor… same can be said of Josh Shapiro So those two as pres/VP and I always thought Pete would be the perfect secretary of state " You can’t accuse the US voting public of sexism, being anti gay or anything else in your list, when it was clearly poor democratic leadership choices, decisions and lack of policy that let them down. | |||
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"Some amazing figures from Twitter: Harris could still have won the election with tiny swings in 3 biggest swing states: 0.5% swing in WI (18,000 votes) 0.7% swing in MI (38,000 votes) 1.2% swing in PA (78,000 votes) Victory was that close for Dems but she chose to campaign on the wrong issues, and to piss off the wrong voters. " According to the BBC last night foreign policy accounted for 4% of the vote. Something a lot of posters seem to be oblivious to | |||
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"Some amazing figures from Twitter: Harris could still have won the election with tiny swings in 3 biggest swing states: 0.5% swing in WI (18,000 votes) 0.7% swing in MI (38,000 votes) 1.2% swing in PA (78,000 votes) Victory was that close for Dems but she chose to campaign on the wrong issues, and to piss off the wrong voters. According to the BBC last night foreign policy accounted for 4% of the vote. Something a lot of posters seem to be oblivious to " Good point. | |||
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"Some amazing figures from Twitter: Harris could still have won the election with tiny swings in 3 biggest swing states: 0.5% swing in WI (18,000 votes) 0.7% swing in MI (38,000 votes) 1.2% swing in PA (78,000 votes) Victory was that close for Dems but she chose to campaign on the wrong issues, and to piss off the wrong voters. According to the BBC last night foreign policy accounted for 4% of the vote. Something a lot of posters seem to be oblivious to " Immigration control was also a high influence amongst voters. That issue doesn’t exist if you’re told you’re wrong to consider it an issue, is not cutting it now. I think the US have called time on spending tax $ on outward spending over internal spending. | |||
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"Most of the swing states voted heavily 'yes' in the separate polls to maintain right to abortion while also voting for Trump. Focusing so much on abortion was another bad Democrat mistake - it just didn't play as a Presidential issue." Actually… I disagree…which I why I think it will still be a third rail issue Of the 10 states who had some sort of abortion protecting issue on the ballot, 9 of them passed, which I am happy with, and the only reason why Florida’s proposal didn’t passed is they put a 60% supermajority clause into it (it got 58% on the ballot) Why is all good if you live in a protected state…. Covers now about half the population I am going to give two examples… person “A” lives in Gary, Indiana…. Indiana has a strict abortion ban… that person has an emergency issue which Indiana says they find illegal…she crosses state lines into Chicago Illinois, which does have the abortion protection! Distance from Gary to Chicago… 30 miles Not bad…… Person b lives in New Orleans, Louisiana … Same issues… where is the nearest place with abortion protection…. It’s Chicago Illinois! Distance from New Orleans to Chicago ….950 miles! Imagine living in Newcastle and being told the closest place you could have a life saving procedure is Barcelona Awkward isn’t it…. Hardline pro choice groups and their evangelical base which are still going to push for a national abortion ban…. But rather than writing one up.. I wonder if they will go through the back door and lets say that the drugs cannot be sent out via federal postal services ( the now infamous comstock act) The fact it’s a mish mash of difference is going to make it a federal issue | |||
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"Some amazing figures from Twitter: Harris could still have won the election with tiny swings in 3 biggest swing states: 0.5% swing in WI (18,000 votes) 0.7% swing in MI (38,000 votes) 1.2% swing in PA (78,000 votes) Victory was that close for Dems but she chose to campaign on the wrong issues, and to piss off the wrong voters. According to the BBC last night foreign policy accounted for 4% of the vote. Something a lot of posters seem to be oblivious to " Fair point. Americans don't seem to know or care about the rest of the world. | |||
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"Most of the swing states voted heavily 'yes' in the separate polls to maintain right to abortion while also voting for Trump. Focusing so much on abortion was another bad Democrat mistake - it just didn't play as a Presidential issue. Actually… I disagree…which I why I think it will still be a third rail issue Of the 10 states who had some sort of abortion protecting issue on the ballot, 9 of them passed, which I am happy with, and the only reason why Florida’s proposal didn’t passed is they put a 60% supermajority clause into it (it got 58% on the ballot) Why is all good if you live in a protected state…. Covers now about half the population I am going to give two examples… person “A” lives in Gary, Indiana…. Indiana has a strict abortion ban… that person has an emergency issue which Indiana says they find illegal…she crosses state lines into Chicago Illinois, which does have the abortion protection! Distance from Gary to Chicago… 30 miles Not bad…… Person b lives in New Orleans, Louisiana … Same issues… where is the nearest place with abortion protection…. It’s Chicago Illinois! Distance from New Orleans to Chicago ….950 miles! Imagine living in Newcastle and being told the closest place you could have a life saving procedure is Barcelona Awkward isn’t it…. Hardline pro choice groups and their evangelical base which are still going to push for a national abortion ban…. But rather than writing one up.. I wonder if they will go through the back door and lets say that the drugs cannot be sent out via federal postal services ( the now infamous comstock act) The fact it’s a mish mash of difference is going to make it a federal issue " Can it be a federal issue? Won’t the Supreme Court just strike down any attempt by the Federal government to involve itself in this area? That’s the fundamental point here isn’t it? Even progressive hero Ginsburg thought Roe v Wade was an awful decision. There’s lots of heat and noise about this (not enough to actually impact Harris’ vote with women in reality) but it comes down to a technical constitutional matter. Abortion just wasn’t as big an issue as the Democrats thought it was. Like jokes about Puerto Ricans etc, it all just smacked of desperation. Keeping the decision with the States helps to protect women: the federal government cannot force states’ position one way or the other. Roe v Wade was the aberration. As Ginsburg said it shouldn’t be down to a few judges to determine what abortion law is in the US. | |||
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"Most of the swing states voted heavily 'yes' in the separate polls to maintain right to abortion while also voting for Trump. Focusing so much on abortion was another bad Democrat mistake - it just didn't play as a Presidential issue. Actually… I disagree…which I why I think it will still be a third rail issue Of the 10 states who had some sort of abortion protecting issue on the ballot, 9 of them passed, which I am happy with, and the only reason why Florida’s proposal didn’t passed is they put a 60% supermajority clause into it (it got 58% on the ballot) Why is all good if you live in a protected state…. Covers now about half the population I am going to give two examples… person “A” lives in Gary, Indiana…. Indiana has a strict abortion ban… that person has an emergency issue which Indiana says they find illegal…she crosses state lines into Chicago Illinois, which does have the abortion protection! Distance from Gary to Chicago… 30 miles Not bad…… Person b lives in New Orleans, Louisiana … Same issues… where is the nearest place with abortion protection…. It’s Chicago Illinois! Distance from New Orleans to Chicago ….950 miles! Imagine living in Newcastle and being told the closest place you could have a life saving procedure is Barcelona Awkward isn’t it…. Hardline pro choice groups and their evangelical base which are still going to push for a national abortion ban…. But rather than writing one up.. I wonder if they will go through the back door and lets say that the drugs cannot be sent out via federal postal services ( the now infamous comstock act) The fact it’s a mish mash of difference is going to make it a federal issue Can it be a federal issue? Federal law always supersedes state law Won’t the Supreme Court just strike down any attempt by the Federal government to involve itself in this area? If he tried to ban it via an executive order.. they would, but the back door comstock act option isn’t banning the procedure as such, it’s banning the transportation of drugs across state lines… For example, in states where marijuana has been legalised, you can purchase it within the state but you can’t take it across state lines.. just in cases the next you step into has not legalised it! That’s the fundamental point here isn’t it? Even progressive hero Ginsburg thought Roe v Wade was an awful decision. It may have been an awful decision.. but for 50 years it was perceived as law defining until it wasn’t There’s lots of heat and noise about this (not enough to actually impact Harris’ vote with women in reality) but it comes down to a technical constitutional matter. Abortion just wasn’t as big an issue as the Democrats thought it was. Like jokes about Puerto Ricans etc, it all just smacked of desperation. It is a big issue.. as every single state where it has gone to a public vote has passed (with the exception of Florida on the super majority clause…. But yet a ton of states won’t put it to the people which is why half the population are under abortion bans Keeping the decision with the States helps to protect women: the federal government cannot force states’ position one way or the other. Roe v Wade was the aberration. As Ginsburg said it shouldn’t be down to a few judges to determine what abortion law is in the US." | |||
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