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By *ensherman333 OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Newcastle/Durham

Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start

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By *orny entitiesCouple
2 weeks ago

bawtry

All I know is that I’m currently on Amazon, searching for the biggest bag of popcorn.

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By *ensherman333 OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Newcastle/Durham


"All I know is that I’m currently on Amazon, searching for the biggest bag of popcorn."

I know it not like Keir to fxck things up is it

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By *wisted999Man
2 weeks ago

North Bucks


"All I know is that I’m currently on Amazon, searching for the biggest bag of popcorn."

You won’t need salt on it for years to come.

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By *orny entitiesCouple
2 weeks ago

bawtry


"All I know is that I’m currently on Amazon, searching for the biggest bag of popcorn.

You won’t need salt on it for years to come. "

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By *orny entitiesCouple
2 weeks ago

bawtry

What is definite…is that media sales and subscriptions are going to rocket over the next four years. News will actually be worth watching/ reading

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start "

Are you suggesting that Trump will put any personal grievances with Labour before what is best for the American people?

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By *wisted999Man
2 weeks ago

North Bucks


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start

Are you suggesting that Trump will put any personal grievances with Labour before what is best for the American people? "

Let’s hope not. Looks like Lammy did though which is very sad.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start

Are you suggesting that Trump will put any personal grievances with Labour before what is best for the American people?

Let’s hope not. Looks like Lammy did though which is very sad. "

Trump is a business man, he will do what’s best for America? It is irrelevant who we have in charge

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By *idnight RamblerMan
2 weeks ago

Pershore

Sir Keir and his ladies have got some grovelling to do it seems. They could try taking the knee I suppose. Done it before.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Sir Keir and his ladies have got some grovelling to do it seems. They could try taking the knee I suppose. Done it before."

Why? Trump will do what’s best for America, not what’s best for the UK

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By *idnight RamblerMan
2 weeks ago

Pershore


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start

Are you suggesting that Trump will put any personal grievances with Labour before what is best for the American people? "

Remember the pecking order...

1) Donald Trump

2) Trump Organization Inc.

3) Trump family

4) US citizens

5) Everybody else

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start

Are you suggesting that Trump will put any personal grievances with Labour before what is best for the American people?

Remember the pecking order...

1) Donald Trump

2) Trump Organization Inc.

3) Trump family

4) US citizens

5) Everybody else"

Proved my point, anyway , he is best mates with the MP of clacton, and Nigel is a patriot, he wouldn’t do anything to upset him

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By *ensherman333 OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Newcastle/Durham


"Sir Keir and his ladies have got some grovelling to do it seems. They could try taking the knee I suppose. Done it before."

Oh I remember for BLM , two teir and the ginger slapper. Not the first time or last they have both been on their knees

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 weeks ago

Springfield

Lammy calling Trump a Nazi looking like a typical Lammy fuck up now.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start

Are you suggesting that Trump will put any personal grievances with Labour before what is best for the American people?

Remember the pecking order...

1) Donald Trump

2) Trump Organization Inc.

3) Trump family

4) US citizens

5) Everybody else"

Although the gap between 3 & 4 is a huge ocean.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
2 weeks ago

Border of London


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start

Are you suggesting that Trump will put any personal grievances with Labour before what is best for the American people?

Remember the pecking order...

1) Donald Trump

2) Trump Organization Inc.

3) Trump family

4) US citizens

5) Everybody else

Although the gap between 3 & 4 is a huge ocean."

A small creek compared with the gap between 1 & 2.

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 weeks ago

Springfield

Labour also hate Elon Musk and want to censor X - another dick move given his access to Trump.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Labour also hate Elon Musk and want to censor X - another dick move given his access to Trump."

Why ? Anyway, I will give it 12 months until musk and trump fall out ,

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By *igNick1381Man
2 weeks ago

BRIDGEND


"Labour also hate Elon Musk and want to censor X - another dick move given his access to Trump.

Why ? Anyway, I will give it 12 months until musk and trump fall out , "

Optimistic of you, I give it 6 lol

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Labour also hate Elon Musk and want to censor X - another dick move given his access to Trump.

Why ? Anyway, I will give it 12 months until musk and trump fall out ,

Optimistic of you, I give it 6 lol"

,

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By *roadShoulderzMan
2 weeks ago

Petersfield


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start "

It's not looking good for Conservatives either who support Ukraine. Johnson in particular if Trump, as promised, pulls the plug on US funding for the war and does a deal with Putin.

Trump has some bigly issues to deal with especially the Middle East to be too concerned about a few left wing student types delivering a few bits of paper to a few mailboxes.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start

It's not looking good for Conservatives either who support Ukraine. Johnson in particular if Trump, as promised, pulls the plug on US funding for the war and does a deal with Putin.

Trump has some bigly issues to deal with especially the Middle East to be too concerned about a few left wing student types delivering a few bits of paper to a few mailboxes."

True, unfortunately a few people on here have LDS labour derangement syndrome)

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Labour also hate Elon Musk and want to censor X - another dick move given his access to Trump.

Why ? Anyway, I will give it 12 months until musk and trump fall out ,

Optimistic of you, I give it 6 lol"

It was less last time. But I think Musk doesn't give a fuck about science or about any issues aside from getting himself tax breaks. He'll stick with Trump until that legislation is in then bail.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Labour also hate Elon Musk and want to censor X - another dick move given his access to Trump.

Why ? Anyway, I will give it 12 months until musk and trump fall out ,

Optimistic of you, I give it 6 lol

It was less last time. But I think Musk doesn't give a fuck about science or about any issues aside from getting himself tax breaks. He'll stick with Trump until that legislation is in then bail."

2 big egos though, neither will want to concede ground, it will end in tears

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By *immyinreadingMan
2 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start

Are you suggesting that Trump will put any personal grievances with Labour before what is best for the American people? "

Absolutely.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start

Are you suggesting that Trump will put any personal grievances with Labour before what is best for the American people?

Absolutely. "

Then there is no point licking his arse , we have dignity

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start

Are you suggesting that Trump will put any personal grievances with Labour before what is best for the American people?

Absolutely.

Then there is no point licking his arse , we have dignity "

Although that MP for Clacton would do that

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 weeks ago

Springfield

If Starmer had any good sense (he doesn't) he'd appoint Farage as Britain's Ambassador to US.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"If Starmer had any good sense (he doesn't) he'd appoint Farage as Britain's Ambassador to US. "

And give up his job as MP for Clacton?

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 weeks ago

Springfield


"If Starmer had any good sense (he doesn't) he'd appoint Farage as Britain's Ambassador to US.

And give up his job as MP for Clacton? "

Clacton or Washington and New York...its a tough one.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"If Starmer had any good sense (he doesn't) he'd appoint Farage as Britain's Ambassador to US.

And give up his job as MP for Clacton?

Clacton or Washington and New York...its a tough one."

But he got elected for the good people of Clacton, he is also the leader of a tiny PLC with 5 MPs

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 weeks ago

Springfield


"If Starmer had any good sense (he doesn't) he'd appoint Farage as Britain's Ambassador to US.

And give up his job as MP for Clacton?

Clacton or Washington and New York...its a tough one.

But he got elected for the good people of Clacton, he is also the leader of a tiny PLC with 5 MPs "

I'm sure he could do both

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"If Starmer had any good sense (he doesn't) he'd appoint Farage as Britain's Ambassador to US.

And give up his job as MP for Clacton?

Clacton or Washington and New York...its a tough one.

But he got elected for the good people of Clacton, he is also the leader of a tiny PLC with 5 MPs

I'm sure he could do both "

Maybe, tbh, he doesn’t need to be the Ambassador, he will get us a trade deal anyway, him and trump

Are best mates

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
2 weeks ago

nearby

Badenoch has urged Starmer to apologise for Lammy's 'derogatory' comments about Trump

Will be interesting to see how Lammy gets on with the ‘special relationship’ after calling Trump a nazi sympathiser, kkk supporter, misogynist, sociopath etc

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"

Badenoch has urged Starmer to apologise for Lammy's 'derogatory' comments about Trump

Will be interesting to see how Lammy gets on with the ‘special relationship’ after calling Trump a nazi sympathiser, kkk supporter, misogynist, sociopath etc "

Like SKS cares what Badenoch says

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By *io--Man
2 weeks ago

Near Blackpool


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start "

Pretty sure vance responded about it? Said it was disgusting what he and labour did lol

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By *mateur100Man
2 weeks ago

nr faversham


"

Badenoch has urged Starmer to apologise for Lammy's 'derogatory' comments about Trump

Will be interesting to see how Lammy gets on with the ‘special relationship’ after calling Trump a nazi sympathiser, kkk supporter, misogynist, sociopath etc

Like SKS cares what Badenoch says "

You think trump will forgive and forget?

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start Pretty sure vance responded about it? Said it was disgusting what he and labour did lol"

Is that the same Vance that called Trump ‘America’s hitler’ ?

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"

Badenoch has urged Starmer to apologise for Lammy's 'derogatory' comments about Trump

Will be interesting to see how Lammy gets on with the ‘special relationship’ after calling Trump a nazi sympathiser, kkk supporter, misogynist, sociopath etc

Like SKS cares what Badenoch says

You think trump will forgive and forget?"

I couldn’t care less, he will dj what’s best for him and the USA, nots what’s best for the UK

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By *mateur100Man
2 weeks ago

nr faversham


"

Badenoch has urged Starmer to apologise for Lammy's 'derogatory' comments about Trump

Will be interesting to see how Lammy gets on with the ‘special relationship’ after calling Trump a nazi sympathiser, kkk supporter, misogynist, sociopath etc

Like SKS cares what Badenoch says

You think trump will forgive and forget?

I couldn’t care less, he will dj what’s best for him and the USA, nots what’s best for the UK"

I'm glad to hear you won't be whining when/if it has an adverse effect on the UK economy

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"

Badenoch has urged Starmer to apologise for Lammy's 'derogatory' comments about Trump

Will be interesting to see how Lammy gets on with the ‘special relationship’ after calling Trump a nazi sympathiser, kkk supporter, misogynist, sociopath etc

Like SKS cares what Badenoch says

You think trump will forgive and forget?

I couldn’t care less, he will dj what’s best for him and the USA, nots what’s best for the UK

I'm glad to hear you won't be whining when/if it has an adverse effect on the UK economy "

I couldn’t care less, what have America done for the UK since WW2? Even then it was only a loan, if it’s beneficial for the US we will get a trade deal, if not, we won’t

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By *mateur100Man
2 weeks ago

nr faversham


"

Badenoch has urged Starmer to apologise for Lammy's 'derogatory' comments about Trump

Will be interesting to see how Lammy gets on with the ‘special relationship’ after calling Trump a nazi sympathiser, kkk supporter, misogynist, sociopath etc

Like SKS cares what Badenoch says

You think trump will forgive and forget?

I couldn’t care less, he will dj what’s best for him and the USA, nots what’s best for the UK

I'm glad to hear you won't be whining when/if it has an adverse effect on the UK economy

I couldn’t care less, what have America done for the UK since WW2? Even then it was only a loan, if it’s beneficial for the US we will get a trade deal, if not, we won’t "

Couldn't care less yet you spend hours a day posting negative comments. You could just shut up

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"

Badenoch has urged Starmer to apologise for Lammy's 'derogatory' comments about Trump

Will be interesting to see how Lammy gets on with the ‘special relationship’ after calling Trump a nazi sympathiser, kkk supporter, misogynist, sociopath etc

Like SKS cares what Badenoch says

You think trump will forgive and forget?

I couldn’t care less, he will dj what’s best for him and the USA, nots what’s best for the UK

I'm glad to hear you won't be whining when/if it has an adverse effect on the UK economy

I couldn’t care less, what have America done for the UK since WW2? Even then it was only a loan, if it’s beneficial for the US we will get a trade deal, if not, we won’t

Couldn't care less yet you spend hours a day posting negative comments. You could just shut up "

, nah you’re ok, I will carry on, nothing you can do about it

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By *mateur100Man
2 weeks ago

nr faversham


"

Badenoch has urged Starmer to apologise for Lammy's 'derogatory' comments about Trump

Will be interesting to see how Lammy gets on with the ‘special relationship’ after calling Trump a nazi sympathiser, kkk supporter, misogynist, sociopath etc

Like SKS cares what Badenoch says

You think trump will forgive and forget?

I couldn’t care less, he will dj what’s best for him and the USA, nots what’s best for the UK

I'm glad to hear you won't be whining when/if it has an adverse effect on the UK economy

I couldn’t care less, what have America done for the UK since WW2? Even then it was only a loan, if it’s beneficial for the US we will get a trade deal, if not, we won’t

Couldn't care less yet you spend hours a day posting negative comments. You could just shut up

, nah you’re ok, I will carry on, nothing you can do about it "

Sad but true

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
2 weeks ago

Gilfach


"he doesn’t need to be the Ambassador, he will get us a trade deal anyway, him and trump

Are best mates"

Farage may well be able to influence Trump. But why would he arrange a trade deal and let Labour take the glory?

Much better to make sure that the UK doesn't get a trade deal, and hope that Labour fall apart over the next 3 years. Then Farage can step up with a trade deal agreed with Trump, and sweep into power.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"he doesn’t need to be the Ambassador, he will get us a trade deal anyway, him and trump

Are best mates

Farage may well be able to influence Trump. But why would he arrange a trade deal and let Labour take the glory?

Much better to make sure that the UK doesn't get a trade deal, and hope that Labour fall apart over the next 3 years. Then Farage can step up with a trade deal agreed with Trump, and sweep into power."

Because he is patriot and want what’s best for the UK, leaving it 3 years sounds selfish and unpatriotic . plus trump leaves before labour need to call the next GE?

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By *mateur100Man
2 weeks ago

nr faversham


"he doesn’t need to be the Ambassador, he will get us a trade deal anyway, him and trump

Are best mates

Farage may well be able to influence Trump. But why would he arrange a trade deal and let Labour take the glory?

Much better to make sure that the UK doesn't get a trade deal, and hope that Labour fall apart over the next 3 years. Then Farage can step up with a trade deal agreed with Trump, and sweep into power.

Because he is patriot and want what’s best for the UK, leaving it 3 years sounds selfish and unpatriotic . plus trump leaves before labour need to call the next GE? "

Labour will lose the next general election because they are hopeless...see the democrats in the US

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"he doesn’t need to be the Ambassador, he will get us a trade deal anyway, him and trump

Are best mates

Farage may well be able to influence Trump. But why would he arrange a trade deal and let Labour take the glory?

Much better to make sure that the UK doesn't get a trade deal, and hope that Labour fall apart over the next 3 years. Then Farage can step up with a trade deal agreed with Trump, and sweep into power.

Because he is patriot and want what’s best for the UK, leaving it 3 years sounds selfish and unpatriotic . plus trump leaves before labour need to call the next GE?

Labour will lose the next general election because they are hopeless...see the democrats in the US "

Get back to me in 5 years fella,

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
2 weeks ago

Gilfach


"he doesn’t need to be the Ambassador, he will get us a trade deal anyway, him and trump

Are best mates"


"Farage may well be able to influence Trump. But why would he arrange a trade deal and let Labour take the glory?

Much better to make sure that the UK doesn't get a trade deal, and hope that Labour fall apart over the next 3 years. Then Farage can step up with a trade deal agreed with Trump, and sweep into power."


"Because he is patriot and want what’s best for the UK, leaving it 3 years sounds selfish and unpatriotic . plus trump leaves before labour need to call the next GE? "

Are you saying that Farage is too principled and unselfish to play the political game? I didn't expect that from you. But it's nice to see that you support him.

It's possible that the Labour party can continue like this until January 2029 (when Trump has to leave). But better governments than this one have been ousted before their full term.

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By *mateur100Man
2 weeks ago

nr faversham


"he doesn’t need to be the Ambassador, he will get us a trade deal anyway, him and trump

Are best mates

Farage may well be able to influence Trump. But why would he arrange a trade deal and let Labour take the glory?

Much better to make sure that the UK doesn't get a trade deal, and hope that Labour fall apart over the next 3 years. Then Farage can step up with a trade deal agreed with Trump, and sweep into power.

Because he is patriot and want what’s best for the UK, leaving it 3 years sounds selfish and unpatriotic . plus trump leaves before labour need to call the next GE?

Labour will lose the next general election because they are hopeless...see the democrats in the US

Get back to me in 5 years fella, "

Why would I bother? I told your previous incarnation 2 years that Trump would win, you mocked me and lo and behold, i was right...fella

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"he doesn’t need to be the Ambassador, he will get us a trade deal anyway, him and trump

Are best mates

Farage may well be able to influence Trump. But why would he arrange a trade deal and let Labour take the glory?

Much better to make sure that the UK doesn't get a trade deal, and hope that Labour fall apart over the next 3 years. Then Farage can step up with a trade deal agreed with Trump, and sweep into power.

Because he is patriot and want what’s best for the UK, leaving it 3 years sounds selfish and unpatriotic . plus trump leaves before labour need to call the next GE?

Are you saying that Farage is too principled and unselfish to play the political game? I didn't expect that from you. But it's nice to see that you support him.

It's possible that the Labour party can continue like this until January 2029 (when Trump has to leave). But better governments than this one have been ousted before their full term."

Not ones with 411 seats, they aren’t going anywhere,

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"he doesn’t need to be the Ambassador, he will get us a trade deal anyway, him and trump

Are best mates

Farage may well be able to influence Trump. But why would he arrange a trade deal and let Labour take the glory?

Much better to make sure that the UK doesn't get a trade deal, and hope that Labour fall apart over the next 3 years. Then Farage can step up with a trade deal agreed with Trump, and sweep into power.

Because he is patriot and want what’s best for the UK, leaving it 3 years sounds selfish and unpatriotic . plus trump leaves before labour need to call the next GE?

Labour will lose the next general election because they are hopeless...see the democrats in the US

Get back to me in 5 years fella,

Why would I bother? I told your previous incarnation 2 years that Trump would win, you mocked me and lo and behold, i was right...fella "

That was fast, I did say 5 years not 5 mins

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By *mateur100Man
2 weeks ago

nr faversham


"he doesn’t need to be the Ambassador, he will get us a trade deal anyway, him and trump

Are best mates

Farage may well be able to influence Trump. But why would he arrange a trade deal and let Labour take the glory?

Much better to make sure that the UK doesn't get a trade deal, and hope that Labour fall apart over the next 3 years. Then Farage can step up with a trade deal agreed with Trump, and sweep into power.

Because he is patriot and want what’s best for the UK, leaving it 3 years sounds selfish and unpatriotic . plus trump leaves before labour need to call the next GE?

Labour will lose the next general election because they are hopeless...see the democrats in the US

Get back to me in 5 years fella,

Why would I bother? I told your previous incarnation 2 years that Trump would win, you mocked me and lo and behold, i was right...fella

That was fast, I did say 5 years not 5 mins "

It was very fast... fella

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"he doesn’t need to be the Ambassador, he will get us a trade deal anyway, him and trump

Are best mates

Farage may well be able to influence Trump. But why would he arrange a trade deal and let Labour take the glory?

Much better to make sure that the UK doesn't get a trade deal, and hope that Labour fall apart over the next 3 years. Then Farage can step up with a trade deal agreed with Trump, and sweep into power.

Because he is patriot and want what’s best for the UK, leaving it 3 years sounds selfish and unpatriotic . plus trump leaves before labour need to call the next GE?

Labour will lose the next general election because they are hopeless...see the democrats in the US

Get back to me in 5 years fella,

Why would I bother? I told your previous incarnation 2 years that Trump would win, you mocked me and lo and behold, i was right...fella

That was fast, I did say 5 years not 5 mins

It was very fast... fella "

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By *mateur100Man
2 weeks ago

nr faversham


"he doesn’t need to be the Ambassador, he will get us a trade deal anyway, him and trump

Are best mates

Farage may well be able to influence Trump. But why would he arrange a trade deal and let Labour take the glory?

Much better to make sure that the UK doesn't get a trade deal, and hope that Labour fall apart over the next 3 years. Then Farage can step up with a trade deal agreed with Trump, and sweep into power.

Because he is patriot and want what’s best for the UK, leaving it 3 years sounds selfish and unpatriotic . plus trump leaves before labour need to call the next GE?

Labour will lose the next general election because they are hopeless...see the democrats in the US

Get back to me in 5 years fella,

Why would I bother? I told your previous incarnation 2 years that Trump would win, you mocked me and lo and behold, i was right...fella

That was fast, I did say 5 years not 5 mins

It was very fast... fella "

Is that the end of it... fella

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By *altenkommandoMan
2 weeks ago

milton keynes

Realpolitik:

1. Trump will get that polticians play to their “base” and say things that appeal to the instincts of their core supporters and will likely rationalise it that way. Lammy et al genuinely beliecve the shite they spew about Trump as they do “otherising” everyoine that doesn’t hold their swivel headed lunatic world view. Trump was probably as surprised as the people of the UK that Liarbour put the consumate student politicians who can’t grow up on the front bench.

2. The real behind the scenes work is done by the career diplomats and that is where the nuts and bolts of trade, military, and policy agreements are hammered out. Business as usual.

3. Trump is canny enough to hold the cards of Lammy and 2 Tier’s fruitier comments for when we go begging, and we will, and will use them to drive a hard bargain in the US’ favour.

Well done the children of the left in having your little hissy fits and compromising yourselves, but ultimately your little fits of pique just play into the hands of the stonger “partner” when it comes to noegotiafing strategies.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Realpolitik:

1. Trump will get that polticians play to their “base” and say things that appeal to the instincts of their core supporters and will likely rationalise it that way. Lammy et al genuinely beliecve the shite they spew about Trump as they do “otherising” everyoine that doesn’t hold their swivel headed lunatic world view. Trump was probably as surprised as the people of the UK that Liarbour put the consumate student politicians who can’t grow up on the front bench.

2. The real behind the scenes work is done by the career diplomats and that is where the nuts and bolts of trade, military, and policy agreements are hammered out. Business as usual.

3. Trump is canny enough to hold the cards of Lammy and 2 Tier’s fruitier comments for when we go begging, and we will, and will use them to drive a hard bargain in the US’ favour.

Well done the children of the left in having your little hissy fits and compromising yourselves, but ultimately your little fits of pique just play into the hands of the stonger “partner” when it comes to noegotiafing strategies. "

Don’t be daft? The British patriot Farage will get us a good deal

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Realpolitik:

1. Trump will get that polticians play to their “base” and say things that appeal to the instincts of their core supporters and will likely rationalise it that way. Lammy et al genuinely beliecve the shite they spew about Trump as they do “otherising” everyoine that doesn’t hold their swivel headed lunatic world view. Trump was probably as surprised as the people of the UK that Liarbour put the consumate student politicians who can’t grow up on the front bench.

2. The real behind the scenes work is done by the career diplomats and that is where the nuts and bolts of trade, military, and policy agreements are hammered out. Business as usual.

3. Trump is canny enough to hold the cards of Lammy and 2 Tier’s fruitier comments for when we go begging, and we will, and will use them to drive a hard bargain in the US’ favour.

Well done the children of the left in having your little hissy fits and compromising yourselves, but ultimately your little fits of pique just play into the hands of the stonger “partner” when it comes to noegotiafing strategies. "

LOL

The absolute state of opinion in this country. America might be rushing head first down the shitter, but we're not far behind.

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By *immyinreadingMan
2 weeks ago

henley on thames


"If Starmer had any good sense (he doesn't) he'd appoint Farage as Britain's Ambassador to US.

And give up his job as MP for Clacton?

Clacton or Washington and New York...its a tough one.

But he got elected for the good people of Clacton, he is also the leader of a tiny PLC with 5 MPs

I'm sure he could do both

Maybe, tbh, he doesn’t need to be the Ambassador, he will get us a trade deal anyway, him and trump

Are best mates "

If that was true, wouldn’t he have got the trade deal between 2016 and 2020?

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By *altenkommandoMan
2 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Realpolitik:

LOL

The absolute state of opinion in this country. America might be rushing head first down the shitter, but we're not far behind. "

The shitter lid opened and we began diving in the minute the Tories started fighting like rats in a sack and that ball sack 2 Tier walked into Downing St.

If we actually had a military I would support a coup right now.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Realpolitik:

LOL

The absolute state of opinion in this country. America might be rushing head first down the shitter, but we're not far behind.

The shitter lid opened and we began diving in the minute the Tories started fighting like rats in a sack and that ball sack 2 Tier walked into Downing St.

If we actually had a military I would support a coup right now. "

Hi there, I am afraid you’re not living in the real world, labour and SKS have just won a huge majority , they will be in government for at least 5 years and a few disgruntled people on here with LDS (labour bereavement syndrome) won’t affect that

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By *immyinreadingMan
2 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Realpolitik:

LOL

The absolute state of opinion in this country. America might be rushing head first down the shitter, but we're not far behind.

The shitter lid opened and we began diving in the minute the Tories started fighting like rats in a sack and that ball sack 2 Tier walked into Downing St.

If we actually had a military I would support a coup right now.

Hi there, I am afraid you’re not living in the real world, labour and SKS have just won a huge majority , they will be in government for at least 5 years and a few disgruntled people on here with LDS (labour bereavement syndrome) won’t affect that "

LDS stands for labour bereavement syndrome? 😂

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By *esiGalGuy123Man
2 weeks ago

Find me..


"Not looking good for the toolmakers son. After the Republican candidate’s campaign accused Labour of “blatant foreign interference” in the US election.

Frozy start "

It'll definitely be strained as what Starmer has been campaigning for Harris and duly being caught doing it!!

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Realpolitik:

LOL

The absolute state of opinion in this country. America might be rushing head first down the shitter, but we're not far behind.

The shitter lid opened and we began diving in the minute the Tories started fighting like rats in a sack and that ball sack 2 Tier walked into Downing St.

If we actually had a military I would support a coup right now.

Hi there, I am afraid you’re not living in the real world, labour and SKS have just won a huge majority , they will be in government for at least 5 years and a few disgruntled people on here with LDS (labour bereavement syndrome) won’t affect that

LDS stands for labour bereavement syndrome? 😂 "

, bloody typo

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By *altenkommandoMan
2 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Realpolitik:

LOL

The absolute state of opinion in this country. America might be rushing head first down the shitter, but we're not far behind.

The shitter lid opened and we began diving in the minute the Tories started fighting like rats in a sack and that ball sack 2 Tier walked into Downing St.

If we actually had a military I would support a coup right now.

Hi there, I am afraid you’re not living in the real world, labour and SKS have just won a huge majority , they will be in government for at least 5 years and a few disgruntled people on here with LDS (labour bereavement syndrome) won’t affect that "

You might say it’s splitting hairs but Liarbour didn’t win a majority, the Tories were punished for a failure to govern by losing theirs.

I suspect it will be the same old cycle - the Tories tear themselves apart because they are not “one party” and loose sight of governing and loose an election - Labour get in and fuck the economy - The tories get stuck fixing the mess and have to scale back the pigate spending to wails of “aaauuuuusssterity”- the Tories tear themelves apart and so on.

It’s time for wholesale electoral reform to a system of PR. If that had been the case last time then Reform would have got around 60 mps, Fib Dems about 20, Tories about 200 and Liabour 300 or so with the other parties (DUP, UU, Plaid, SNP, Greens) making up the rest.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Realpolitik:

LOL

The absolute state of opinion in this country. America might be rushing head first down the shitter, but we're not far behind.

The shitter lid opened and we began diving in the minute the Tories started fighting like rats in a sack and that ball sack 2 Tier walked into Downing St.

If we actually had a military I would support a coup right now.

Hi there, I am afraid you’re not living in the real world, labour and SKS have just won a huge majority , they will be in government for at least 5 years and a few disgruntled people on here with LDS (labour bereavement syndrome) won’t affect that

You might say it’s splitting hairs but Liarbour didn’t win a majority, the Tories were punished for a failure to govern by losing theirs.

I suspect it will be the same old cycle - the Tories tear themselves apart because they are not “one party” and loose sight of governing and loose an election - Labour get in and fuck the economy - The tories get stuck fixing the mess and have to scale back the pigate spending to wails of “aaauuuuusssterity”- the Tories tear themelves apart and so on.

It’s time for wholesale electoral reform to a system of PR. If that had been the case last time then Reform would have got around 60 mps, Fib Dems about 20, Tories about 200 and Liabour 300 or so with the other parties (DUP, UU, Plaid, SNP, Greens) making up the rest. "

411 seats, huge majorly , no good complaining about the electoral system after you lost

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
2 weeks ago

Gilfach


"he doesn’t need to be the Ambassador, he will get us a trade deal anyway, him and trump

Are best mates"


"If that was true, wouldn’t he have got the trade deal between 2016 and 2020?"

No. We were in the EU during those years, and it would have been illegal to discuss a trade deal with a third-party country.

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By *emma StonesTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Crewe

There’s about as much chance as there was of him being the ambassador under the tories, baring in mind he wasn’t an MP oh a different party at the time.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Realpolitik:

LOL

The absolute state of opinion in this country. America might be rushing head first down the shitter, but we're not far behind.

The shitter lid opened and we began diving in the minute the Tories started fighting like rats in a sack and that ball sack 2 Tier walked into Downing St.

If we actually had a military I would support a coup right now. "

The big flush started in 2016 and we've been going down ever since.

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma

Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

"

Brexit is costing the country about £60 billion a year, 20 times the cost to house asylum seekers

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

Brexit is costing the country about £60 billion a year, 20 times the cost to house asylum seekers "

Leaving a trade deal will always cost money in the short to medium term, but that isn't the point of my post.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

"

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

Brexit is costing the country about £60 billion a year, 20 times the cost to house asylum seekers

Leaving a trade deal will always cost money in the short to medium term, but that isn't the point of my post."

1 billion a week,

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news."

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

"

£150 million a day

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

£150 million a day "

What is your point?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

"

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

£150 million a day

What is your point? "

That is my point, it’s costing over £5 million an hour

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about. "

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

£150 million a day

What is your point?

That is my point, it’s costing over £5 million an hour "

costing who?

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

£150 million a day

What is your point?

That is my point, it’s costing over £5 million an hour

costing who?"

The economy, £84,000 a minute

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By *emma StonesTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Crewe

And on this week’s episode of master chef we feature a special word salad.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today"

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today"

I haven't stated a position.

You have stated a position, that "there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful".

Do you want to explain your position?

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

£150 million a day

What is your point?

That is my point, it’s costing over £5 million an hour

costing who?

The economy, £84,000 a minute "

what does that actually mean?

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

£150 million a day

What is your point?

That is my point, it’s costing over £5 million an hour

costing who?

The economy, £84,000 a minute

what does that actually mean? "

It means, that the economy is losing £84,000 a minute because of Brexit ,

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions "

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective. "

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers ,

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , "

and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw "

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

"

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day? "

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million "

ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on? "

No , its higher than £1500 a second , Plenty of info out there explain the cost on the economy of Brexit

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

No , its higher than £1500 a second , Plenty of info out there explain the cost on the economy of Brexit "

im asking out of curiosity not picking arguments just a generalisation of why its costing so much?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on? "

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

"

but based on what? Where are some of these costs?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

but based on what? Where are some of these costs? "

Probably easier to go and read the Bloomberg article than to pick points of it and paste them in here.

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

but based on what? Where are some of these costs?

Probably easier to go and read the Bloomberg article than to pick points of it and paste them in here."

ill have a nosey when ive got time just not something ive looked at hence why i asked, its certainly a large number however someones calculated it

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

but based on what? Where are some of these costs?

Probably easier to go and read the Bloomberg article than to pick points of it and paste them in here.ill have a nosey when ive got time just not something ive looked at hence why i asked, its certainly a large number however someones calculated it"

It's an estimate. There are lots of factors. Their article is behind a pay wall, but you can find summaries and they even have a video on their site with a quick overview

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By *ountry cowboyMan
2 weeks ago

Kinross

Glad I cashed In at $1.31 to the £1

The £1 is continuing to gradually drop so it's tough decision when to add to my dollar account

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

"

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition"

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 . "

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured."

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg "

That is good to know

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know"

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you "

im only learning but thanks for noticing my hard work 👌but expert is a bit too much

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By *uffleskloofMan
2 weeks ago

Cabo Verde


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 . "

Good idea. Let’s join a trading block where the members have worse economic performance than we do (which isn’t saying much).

It’s like being a Premiership club and volunteering to go into a lower division.

Politically rejoining the EU will never happen. The EU won’t want us, they know that in no time we’ll be moaning about it again. By the next election Labour will be so unpopular that they’ll be terrified of suggesting we rejoin the EU and making things worse for themselves.

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you "

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now. "

I am sticking to listening to experts,

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By *ountry cowboyMan
2 weeks ago

Kinross


"Labour also hate Elon Musk and want to censor X - another dick move given his access to Trump.

Why ? Anyway, I will give it 12 months until musk and trump fall out , "

Perhaps Musk ensures all online votes go to Trump

AI is highly advanced and can do many things

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Labour also hate Elon Musk and want to censor X - another dick move given his access to Trump.

Why ? Anyway, I will give it 12 months until musk and trump fall out ,

Perhaps Musk ensures all online votes go to Trump

AI is highly advanced and can do many things "

Trump doesn’t need any votes, he already won, he cant run in 2028

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

I am sticking to listening to experts, "

I think that is a solid decision. Out of interest which experts are you getting your information from on Brexit?

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

I am sticking to listening to experts,

I think that is a solid decision. Out of interest which experts are you getting your information from on Brexit?"

Have a look on Google

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By *mateur100Man
2 weeks ago

nr faversham

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By *mateur100Man
2 weeks ago

nr faversham


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

I am sticking to listening to experts,

I think that is a solid decision. Out of interest which experts are you getting your information from on Brexit?

Have a look on Google "

Does Google have a page dedicated to _onyandtraps Brexit experts?

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By *ountry cowboyMan
2 weeks ago

Kinross

Look where so called Experts have got the UK...

Deep in the shit.

So called experts in bullshit more like

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Look where so called Experts have got the UK...

Deep in the shit.

So called experts in bullshit more like "

When did this happen?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition"

What's the alternative, pretend everything is Rosie, nothing to see here. Look over there at those people in that small boat?

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By *ountry cowboyMan
2 weeks ago

Kinross


"Look where so called Experts have got the UK...

Deep in the shit.

So called experts in bullshit more like

When did this happen? "

Where have you been the last number of decades?

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"Look where so called Experts have got the UK...

Deep in the shit.

So called experts in bullshit more like "

and dont forget google leads to youtube and we all know how fab forums feel about youtube

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Look where so called Experts have got the UK...

Deep in the shit.

So called experts in bullshit more like

When did this happen?

Where have you been the last number of decades?"

Enlighten me, are you going to go on a ‘Covid was a plandemic’ rant ?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Look where so called Experts have got the UK...

Deep in the shit.

So called experts in bullshit more like "

I think you'll find were deep in the shit because experts (ie economists, scientists etc) weren't listened to.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Look where so called Experts have got the UK...

Deep in the shit.

So called experts in bullshit more like and dont forget google leads to youtube and we all know how fab forums feel about youtube "

You get your expert advice from YouTube?

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By *mateur100Man
2 weeks ago

nr faversham


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

I am sticking to listening to experts,

I think that is a solid decision. Out of interest which experts are you getting your information from on Brexit?

Have a look on Google

Does Google have a page dedicated to _onyandtraps Brexit experts? "

Unable to answer another question it seems

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"Look where so called Experts have got the UK...

Deep in the shit.

So called experts in bullshit more like and dont forget google leads to youtube and we all know how fab forums feel about youtube

You get your expert advice from YouTube? "

i never claimed i got my expert advise from anywhere u did that, then quoted google

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Look where so called Experts have got the UK...

Deep in the shit.

So called experts in bullshit more like and dont forget google leads to youtube and we all know how fab forums feel about youtube

You get your expert advice from YouTube? i never claimed i got my expert advise from anywhere u did that, then quoted google "

Ah, sorry, my mistake ,

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"Look where so called Experts have got the UK...

Deep in the shit.

So called experts in bullshit more like and dont forget google leads to youtube and we all know how fab forums feel about youtube

You get your expert advice from YouTube? i never claimed i got my expert advise from anywhere u did that, then quoted google

Ah, sorry, my mistake , "

but yes its funny how a tin foil hat wearer cant call google for experts in regards to covid but for politics you can 🤷

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By *mateur100Man
2 weeks ago

nr faversham


"Look where so called Experts have got the UK...

Deep in the shit.

So called experts in bullshit more like and dont forget google leads to youtube and we all know how fab forums feel about youtube

You get your expert advice from YouTube? i never claimed i got my expert advise from anywhere u did that, then quoted google

Ah, sorry, my mistake , but yes its funny how a tin foil hat wearer cant call google for experts in regards to covid but for politics you can 🤷 "

Careful not to bore anybody...they might not reply to your post

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By *oandstephCouple
2 weeks ago

Bradford


"Look where so called Experts have got the UK...

Deep in the shit.

So called experts in bullshit more like and dont forget google leads to youtube and we all know how fab forums feel about youtube

You get your expert advice from YouTube? i never claimed i got my expert advise from anywhere u did that, then quoted google

Ah, sorry, my mistake , but yes its funny how a tin foil hat wearer cant call google for experts in regards to covid but for politics you can 🤷

Careful not to bore anybody...they might not reply to your post "

i best not mix the 2 up lol my point isnt person specific just some say u cant use Google as evidence but then in politics you can 😂

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By *otMe66Man
2 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

What's the alternative, pretend everything is Rosie, nothing to see here. Look over there at those people in that small boat?"

I do get confused with your references to small boats. You’re not alone I’ve had the same from others replies with additions of woke… I’ve not mentioned woke or small boats once, well until now.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

What's the alternative, pretend everything is Rosie, nothing to see here. Look over there at those people in that small boat?

I do get confused with your references to small boats. You’re not alone I’ve had the same from others replies with additions of woke… I’ve not mentioned woke or small boats once, well until now. "

No, but the "Brexit? What? Nothing to see here" crowd are usually ranting about people in small boats, the woke, and various other bogeymen.

Anyway, is your suggestion to ignore the impact of Brexit on the UK, rather than trying to have an honest conversation, and trying to figure out how to tackle the multiple problems it's causing?

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By *ostindreamsMan
2 weeks ago

London


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now. "

The so-called experts can't even predict a country's future one quarter ahead. There is no way they come up with any unbiased predictions on Brexit. The EU is a dead man walking already. Germany is fucked. France is well on the way. The EU politicians are trying their best to fuck Ireland for being supportive of businesses. If Trump becomes isolationist, their defence is fucked too. Such a bright future for them.

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
2 weeks ago

chichester

I hope starker doesn’t bend over to trump though. Be firm my man be firm. Trump respects power and not ass kissers He uses the latter

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By *ountry cowboyMan
2 weeks ago

Kinross


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

The so-called experts can't even predict a country's future one quarter ahead. There is no way they come up with any unbiased predictions on Brexit. The EU is a dead man walking already. Germany is fucked. France is well on the way. The EU politicians are trying their best to fuck Ireland for being supportive of businesses. If Trump becomes isolationist, their defence is fucked too. Such a bright future for them."

Your spot on, the EU is on a course of self destruction, I am glad the UK voted for Brexit.

.

At the end of 2023, 13 out of 27 EU countries reported debt to GDP ratios higher than 60.0 %, while five EU countries recorded debt to GDP ratios of more than 100.0 %: Greece recorded the highest debt to GDP ratio at 161.9 %, followed by Italy (137.3 %), France (110.6 %), Spain (107.7 %) and Belgium (105.2 %).

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

The so-called experts can't even predict a country's future one quarter ahead. There is no way they come up with any unbiased predictions on Brexit. The EU is a dead man walking already. Germany is fucked. France is well on the way. The EU politicians are trying their best to fuck Ireland for being supportive of businesses. If Trump becomes isolationist, their defence is fucked too. Such a bright future for them.

Your spot on, the EU is on a course of self destruction, I am glad the UK voted for Brexit.

.

At the end of 2023, 13 out of 27 EU countries reported debt to GDP ratios higher than 60.0 %, while five EU countries recorded debt to GDP ratios of more than 100.0 %: Greece recorded the highest debt to GDP ratio at 161.9 %, followed by Italy (137.3 %), France (110.6 %), Spain (107.7 %) and Belgium (105.2 %)."

That means the majority had debt below 60 %

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By *ountry cowboyMan
2 weeks ago

Kinross


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

The so-called experts can't even predict a country's future one quarter ahead. There is no way they come up with any unbiased predictions on Brexit. The EU is a dead man walking already. Germany is fucked. France is well on the way. The EU politicians are trying their best to fuck Ireland for being supportive of businesses. If Trump becomes isolationist, their defence is fucked too. Such a bright future for them.

Your spot on, the EU is on a course of self destruction, I am glad the UK voted for Brexit.

.

At the end of 2023, 13 out of 27 EU countries reported debt to GDP ratios higher than 60.0 %, while five EU countries recorded debt to GDP ratios of more than 100.0 %: Greece recorded the highest debt to GDP ratio at 161.9 %, followed by Italy (137.3 %), France (110.6 %), Spain (107.7 %) and Belgium (105.2 %).

That means the majority had debt below 60 %"

Glad you think that's acceptable

Your more than welcome to move to any European country you wish if you think your life will be better?

Do you?

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

The so-called experts can't even predict a country's future one quarter ahead. There is no way they come up with any unbiased predictions on Brexit. The EU is a dead man walking already. Germany is fucked. France is well on the way. The EU politicians are trying their best to fuck Ireland for being supportive of businesses. If Trump becomes isolationist, their defence is fucked too. Such a bright future for them.

Your spot on, the EU is on a course of self destruction, I am glad the UK voted for Brexit.

.

At the end of 2023, 13 out of 27 EU countries reported debt to GDP ratios higher than 60.0 %, while five EU countries recorded debt to GDP ratios of more than 100.0 %: Greece recorded the highest debt to GDP ratio at 161.9 %, followed by Italy (137.3 %), France (110.6 %), Spain (107.7 %) and Belgium (105.2 %).

That means the majority had debt below 60 %

Glad you think that's acceptable

Your more than welcome to move to any European country you wish if you think your life will be better?

Do you?"

And when will the EU collapse, I am happy here now labour are in charge, thanks for your concern though

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

The so-called experts can't even predict a country's future one quarter ahead. There is no way they come up with any unbiased predictions on Brexit. The EU is a dead man walking already. Germany is fucked. France is well on the way. The EU politicians are trying their best to fuck Ireland for being supportive of businesses. If Trump becomes isolationist, their defence is fucked too. Such a bright future for them.

Your spot on, the EU is on a course of self destruction, I am glad the UK voted for Brexit.

.

At the end of 2023, 13 out of 27 EU countries reported debt to GDP ratios higher than 60.0 %, while five EU countries recorded debt to GDP ratios of more than 100.0 %: Greece recorded the highest debt to GDP ratio at 161.9 %, followed by Italy (137.3 %), France (110.6 %), Spain (107.7 %) and Belgium (105.2 %).

That means the majority had debt below 60 %

Glad you think that's acceptable

Your more than welcome to move to any European country you wish if you think your life will be better?

Do you?"

We were more than welcome to move to EU countries. But sadly people voted to remove that right.

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By *ountry cowboyMan
2 weeks ago

Kinross


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

The so-called experts can't even predict a country's future one quarter ahead. There is no way they come up with any unbiased predictions on Brexit. The EU is a dead man walking already. Germany is fucked. France is well on the way. The EU politicians are trying their best to fuck Ireland for being supportive of businesses. If Trump becomes isolationist, their defence is fucked too. Such a bright future for them.

Your spot on, the EU is on a course of self destruction, I am glad the UK voted for Brexit.

.

At the end of 2023, 13 out of 27 EU countries reported debt to GDP ratios higher than 60.0 %, while five EU countries recorded debt to GDP ratios of more than 100.0 %: Greece recorded the highest debt to GDP ratio at 161.9 %, followed by Italy (137.3 %), France (110.6 %), Spain (107.7 %) and Belgium (105.2 %).

That means the majority had debt below 60 %

Glad you think that's acceptable

Your more than welcome to move to any European country you wish if you think your life will be better?

Do you?

We were more than welcome to move to EU countries. But sadly people voted to remove that right."

Absolute nonsense, you can virtually live anywhere in the world if you have the education, work ability or pension to pay your way and it's far easier in the EU even now.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

The so-called experts can't even predict a country's future one quarter ahead. There is no way they come up with any unbiased predictions on Brexit. The EU is a dead man walking already. Germany is fucked. France is well on the way. The EU politicians are trying their best to fuck Ireland for being supportive of businesses. If Trump becomes isolationist, their defence is fucked too. Such a bright future for them.

Your spot on, the EU is on a course of self destruction, I am glad the UK voted for Brexit.

.

At the end of 2023, 13 out of 27 EU countries reported debt to GDP ratios higher than 60.0 %, while five EU countries recorded debt to GDP ratios of more than 100.0 %: Greece recorded the highest debt to GDP ratio at 161.9 %, followed by Italy (137.3 %), France (110.6 %), Spain (107.7 %) and Belgium (105.2 %).

That means the majority had debt below 60 %

Glad you think that's acceptable

Your more than welcome to move to any European country you wish if you think your life will be better?

Do you?

We were more than welcome to move to EU countries. But sadly people voted to remove that right.

Absolute nonsense, you can virtually live anywhere in the world if you have the education, work ability or pension to pay your way and it's far easier in the EU even now.

"

Erm. Checks notes. Yep. We're definitely out of the EU now, we lost our freedom of movement. It's no longer an option for the vast majority of people to be able to move there.

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By *uffleskloofMan
2 weeks ago

Cabo Verde


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

The so-called experts can't even predict a country's future one quarter ahead. There is no way they come up with any unbiased predictions on Brexit. The EU is a dead man walking already. Germany is fucked. France is well on the way. The EU politicians are trying their best to fuck Ireland for being supportive of businesses. If Trump becomes isolationist, their defence is fucked too. Such a bright future for them.

Your spot on, the EU is on a course of self destruction, I am glad the UK voted for Brexit.

.

At the end of 2023, 13 out of 27 EU countries reported debt to GDP ratios higher than 60.0 %, while five EU countries recorded debt to GDP ratios of more than 100.0 %: Greece recorded the highest debt to GDP ratio at 161.9 %, followed by Italy (137.3 %), France (110.6 %), Spain (107.7 %) and Belgium (105.2 %).

That means the majority had debt below 60 %

Glad you think that's acceptable

Your more than welcome to move to any European country you wish if you think your life will be better?

Do you?

We were more than welcome to move to EU countries. But sadly people voted to remove that right."

Welcome to yes, but in reality very few people did.

Difficult to understand why people don’t move to countries where the economic opportunities are fewer and salaries much lower.

I’m sure it’s all upset a few retired teachers who threw their lot in with the French. No doubt a few more forms to fill out down at the local council office.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

The so-called experts can't even predict a country's future one quarter ahead. There is no way they come up with any unbiased predictions on Brexit. The EU is a dead man walking already. Germany is fucked. France is well on the way. The EU politicians are trying their best to fuck Ireland for being supportive of businesses. If Trump becomes isolationist, their defence is fucked too. Such a bright future for them.

Your spot on, the EU is on a course of self destruction, I am glad the UK voted for Brexit.

.

At the end of 2023, 13 out of 27 EU countries reported debt to GDP ratios higher than 60.0 %, while five EU countries recorded debt to GDP ratios of more than 100.0 %: Greece recorded the highest debt to GDP ratio at 161.9 %, followed by Italy (137.3 %), France (110.6 %), Spain (107.7 %) and Belgium (105.2 %).

That means the majority had debt below 60 %

Glad you think that's acceptable

Your more than welcome to move to any European country you wish if you think your life will be better?

Do you?

We were more than welcome to move to EU countries. But sadly people voted to remove that right.

Welcome to yes, but in reality very few people did.

Difficult to understand why people don’t move to countries where the economic opportunities are fewer and salaries much lower.

I’m sure it’s all upset a few retired teachers who threw their lot in with the French. No doubt a few more forms to fill out down at the local council office. "

The other chap seems to want people who understand the impact of Brexit to simply move to Europe. We can't anymore because he voted for us to not be able to.

Just pointing out the irony because it's amusing.

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By *mateur100Man
2 weeks ago

nr faversham


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

The so-called experts can't even predict a country's future one quarter ahead. There is no way they come up with any unbiased predictions on Brexit. The EU is a dead man walking already. Germany is fucked. France is well on the way. The EU politicians are trying their best to fuck Ireland for being supportive of businesses. If Trump becomes isolationist, their defence is fucked too. Such a bright future for them.

Your spot on, the EU is on a course of self destruction, I am glad the UK voted for Brexit.

.

At the end of 2023, 13 out of 27 EU countries reported debt to GDP ratios higher than 60.0 %, while five EU countries recorded debt to GDP ratios of more than 100.0 %: Greece recorded the highest debt to GDP ratio at 161.9 %, followed by Italy (137.3 %), France (110.6 %), Spain (107.7 %) and Belgium (105.2 %).

That means the majority had debt below 60 %

Glad you think that's acceptable

Your more than welcome to move to any European country you wish if you think your life will be better?

Do you?

We were more than welcome to move to EU countries. But sadly people voted to remove that right.

Welcome to yes, but in reality very few people did.

Difficult to understand why people don’t move to countries where the economic opportunities are fewer and salaries much lower.

I’m sure it’s all upset a few retired teachers who threw their lot in with the French. No doubt a few more forms to fill out down at the local council office.

The other chap seems to want people who understand the impact of Brexit to simply move to Europe. We can't anymore because he voted for us to not be able to.

Just pointing out the irony because it's amusing. "

Why do you think people can't move to Europe?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

The so-called experts can't even predict a country's future one quarter ahead. There is no way they come up with any unbiased predictions on Brexit. The EU is a dead man walking already. Germany is fucked. France is well on the way. The EU politicians are trying their best to fuck Ireland for being supportive of businesses. If Trump becomes isolationist, their defence is fucked too. Such a bright future for them.

Your spot on, the EU is on a course of self destruction, I am glad the UK voted for Brexit.

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At the end of 2023, 13 out of 27 EU countries reported debt to GDP ratios higher than 60.0 %, while five EU countries recorded debt to GDP ratios of more than 100.0 %: Greece recorded the highest debt to GDP ratio at 161.9 %, followed by Italy (137.3 %), France (110.6 %), Spain (107.7 %) and Belgium (105.2 %).

That means the majority had debt below 60 %

Glad you think that's acceptable

Your more than welcome to move to any European country you wish if you think your life will be better?

Do you?

We were more than welcome to move to EU countries. But sadly people voted to remove that right.

Welcome to yes, but in reality very few people did.

Difficult to understand why people don’t move to countries where the economic opportunities are fewer and salaries much lower.

I’m sure it’s all upset a few retired teachers who threw their lot in with the French. No doubt a few more forms to fill out down at the local council office.

The other chap seems to want people who understand the impact of Brexit to simply move to Europe. We can't anymore because he voted for us to not be able to.

Just pointing out the irony because it's amusing.

Why do you think people can't move to Europe?"

Apologies, in the context, it's meant to show that it's much more difficult now, and practically impossible for many/most people to simply leave the country and move to the EU.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
2 weeks ago

nearby

Starmer sent people to campaign for Harris. And Lammy has made repeated derogatory comments about Trump.

Trump couldn’t give a jot about Uk. What does he need from us.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Starmer sent people to campaign for Harris. And Lammy has made repeated derogatory comments about Trump.

Trump couldn’t give a jot about Uk. What does he need from us. "

Why does it matter what labour have done or said then?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Starmer sent people to campaign for Harris. And Lammy has made repeated derogatory comments about Trump.

Trump couldn’t give a jot about Uk. What does he need from us. "

Finally Starmer standing up for what's right.

Sadly though, it didn't last, he put some grovelling nonsense congratulations out there when the result was announced. No backbone at all.

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By *oxychick35Couple
2 weeks ago

thornaby


"Starmer sent people to campaign for Harris. And Lammy has made repeated derogatory comments about Trump.

Trump couldn’t give a jot about Uk. What does he need from us.

Finally Starmer standing up for what's right.

Sadly though, it didn't last, he put some grovelling nonsense congratulations out there when the result was announced. No backbone at all."

I don’t think anyone ever thought he had a backbone tbf atleast corbyn stood up for his beliefs I’ll give him that

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Starmer sent people to campaign for Harris. And Lammy has made repeated derogatory comments about Trump.

Trump couldn’t give a jot about Uk. What does he need from us.

Finally Starmer standing up for what's right.

Sadly though, it didn't last, he put some grovelling nonsense congratulations out there when the result was announced. No backbone at all.I don’t think anyone ever thought he had a backbone tbf atleast corbyn stood up for his beliefs I’ll give him that "

I agree with you.

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
2 weeks ago

chichester


"Starmer sent people to campaign for Harris. And Lammy has made repeated derogatory comments about Trump.

Trump couldn’t give a jot about Uk. What does he need from us.

Finally Starmer standing up for what's right.

Sadly though, it didn't last, he put some grovelling nonsense congratulations out there when the result was announced. No backbone at all."

All western leaders will congratulate abit etiquette

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By *emma StonesTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Crewe


"Starmer sent people to campaign for Harris. And Lammy has made repeated derogatory comments about Trump.

Trump couldn’t give a jot about Uk. What does he need from us. "

Not as much as the American businesses that export into our market.

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By *ountry cowboyMan
2 weeks ago

Kinross


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

The so-called experts can't even predict a country's future one quarter ahead. There is no way they come up with any unbiased predictions on Brexit. The EU is a dead man walking already. Germany is fucked. France is well on the way. The EU politicians are trying their best to fuck Ireland for being supportive of businesses. If Trump becomes isolationist, their defence is fucked too. Such a bright future for them.

Your spot on, the EU is on a course of self destruction, I am glad the UK voted for Brexit.

.

At the end of 2023, 13 out of 27 EU countries reported debt to GDP ratios higher than 60.0 %, while five EU countries recorded debt to GDP ratios of more than 100.0 %: Greece recorded the highest debt to GDP ratio at 161.9 %, followed by Italy (137.3 %), France (110.6 %), Spain (107.7 %) and Belgium (105.2 %).

That means the majority had debt below 60 %

Glad you think that's acceptable

Your more than welcome to move to any European country you wish if you think your life will be better?

Do you?

We were more than welcome to move to EU countries. But sadly people voted to remove that right.

Welcome to yes, but in reality very few people did.

Difficult to understand why people don’t move to countries where the economic opportunities are fewer and salaries much lower.

I’m sure it’s all upset a few retired teachers who threw their lot in with the French. No doubt a few more forms to fill out down at the local council office.

The other chap seems to want people who understand the impact of Brexit to simply move to Europe. We can't anymore because he voted for us to not be able to.

Just pointing out the irony because it's amusing.

Why do you think people can't move to Europe?

Apologies, in the context, it's meant to show that it's much more difficult now, and practically impossible for many/most people to simply leave the country and move to the EU. "

You obviously do not have a good employer and you are obviously uneducated enough to find employment within the EU.

You can still work, live and retire in the EU if you have the finance, or your employer handles your visa.

You obviously believe just because you are not a EU member that you cannot relocate. Fool on you.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
2 weeks ago

Pershore

Not sure about Starmer, but Burnham and Khan have doubled down on kicking Trump and stated their respective cities 'won't compromise their principles'. I bet the Orange man is sh1tting himself.

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By *onyandtrapMan
2 weeks ago

manchester


"Not sure about Starmer, but Burnham and Khan have doubled down on kicking Trump and stated their respective cities 'won't compromise their principles'. I bet the Orange man is sh1tting himself."

Manchester loves Andy Burnham , fantastic mayor

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Brexit was leaving a trade agreement with other EU members.

The position we find ourselves in now is down to many factors, Brexit being low on the impact scale.

£100 billion annual hit to the economy is "low on the impact"?

Amazing news.

I'm sure that you will at some point realise there is a lot of influences that are creating the issues we are facing as a nation, Brexit being 1 of them but not the most impactful.

Something is causing us even more problems than Brexit?

I mean on real life. Not like "the woke", "immigrants", "loony left socialists", "liebour". And all the other nonsense that most people on this forum spend their time being outraged about.

Explain your position, why is brexit the number 1 issue being faced by the UK today

Who cares if it’s first , second or third, it’s costing billions

I care, it is about balance and being subjective.

Fair enough, Brexit is losing the economy £1500 a second , it’s a far bigger ‘problem, than wokism, and asylum seekers , and how is that figure worked out? Genuine question btw

Simple maths, days, hours , minutes, seconds

but how do they get to 129,600,000 per day?

60,000 million divided by 365 , it’s actually 164 million ah right so its not 1500 a second then and how did they get to the figure of 60,000 million whats that based on?

Good point, it's a very low estimate. Other sources have it closer to £100 billion cost to the economy, annually.

There is no way of knowing directly the cost of Brexit, we knew it was going to cost and I wouldn’t expect the real costs to be known until 2030 - 2032. At that point we will either carry on as other trade deals begin to mature and we begin closing the gap, or we renegotiate a deal with the EU.

It helps nobody being alarmist at this point of the transition

It’s already cost £100s of billions , we don’t need to wait until 2030 .

That is you applying your personal reasoning, which isn’t necessarily the way economic trade deals mature and are measured.

Is it? I don’t write for Bloomberg

That is good to know

With all due respect I am getting my information from experts, not you

There are no experts that will tell you how Brexit will finally unravel, there are pundits that will fill that gap for now.

The so-called experts can't even predict a country's future one quarter ahead. There is no way they come up with any unbiased predictions on Brexit. The EU is a dead man walking already. Germany is fucked. France is well on the way. The EU politicians are trying their best to fuck Ireland for being supportive of businesses. If Trump becomes isolationist, their defence is fucked too. Such a bright future for them.

Your spot on, the EU is on a course of self destruction, I am glad the UK voted for Brexit.

.

At the end of 2023, 13 out of 27 EU countries reported debt to GDP ratios higher than 60.0 %, while five EU countries recorded debt to GDP ratios of more than 100.0 %: Greece recorded the highest debt to GDP ratio at 161.9 %, followed by Italy (137.3 %), France (110.6 %), Spain (107.7 %) and Belgium (105.2 %).

That means the majority had debt below 60 %

Glad you think that's acceptable

Your more than welcome to move to any European country you wish if you think your life will be better?

Do you?

We were more than welcome to move to EU countries. But sadly people voted to remove that right.

Welcome to yes, but in reality very few people did.

Difficult to understand why people don’t move to countries where the economic opportunities are fewer and salaries much lower.

I’m sure it’s all upset a few retired teachers who threw their lot in with the French. No doubt a few more forms to fill out down at the local council office.

The other chap seems to want people who understand the impact of Brexit to simply move to Europe. We can't anymore because he voted for us to not be able to.

Just pointing out the irony because it's amusing.

Why do you think people can't move to Europe?

Apologies, in the context, it's meant to show that it's much more difficult now, and practically impossible for many/most people to simply leave the country and move to the EU.

You obviously do not have a good employer and you are obviously uneducated enough to find employment within the EU.

You can still work, live and retire in the EU if you have the finance, or your employer handles your visa.

You obviously believe just because you are not a EU member that you cannot relocate. Fool on you."

Are you aware of Brexit, and aware that after we left the EU we lost our freedom of movement?

As I said, prior to Brexit, we could much more easily move over. Now it's only a select few.

I think it's funny that you voted to remove the freedom of movement, and are telling people who understand the impact of Brexit should leave and move to the EU. It fills all the Brexit voters stereotypes at once.

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 weeks ago

Springfield

Rumours that Trump will offer UK a special deal to separate it from the EU (which he hates). UK will have lower tariffs but we send Lammy to Guantanemo Bay.

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By *uffleskloofMan
2 weeks ago

Cabo Verde


"Rumours that Trump will offer UK a special deal to separate it from the EU (which he hates). UK will have lower tariffs but we send Lammy to Guantanemo Bay."

Surely the Gitmo prisoners have endured enough already!

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By *oxychick35Couple
2 weeks ago

thornaby


"Rumours that Trump will offer UK a special deal to separate it from the EU (which he hates). UK will have lower tariffs but we send Lammy to Guantanemo Bay."
sign that deal now lol

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 weeks ago

Springfield


"Rumours that Trump will offer UK a special deal to separate it from the EU (which he hates). UK will have lower tariffs but we send Lammy to Guantanemo Bay.

Surely the Gitmo prisoners have endured enough already!"

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 weeks ago

Springfield


"Rumours that Trump will offer UK a special deal to separate it from the EU (which he hates). UK will have lower tariffs but we send Lammy to Guantanemo Bay.sign that deal now lol"

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
2 weeks ago

Bedford

Remember when Blair was Bushes lapdog. War in the middle east and eastern Europe.

History repeating itself.

Lamy needs to stop leaning on that despatch box like he's in the pub propping up the bar, he does like the sound of his own voice.

If someone called Starmer a Stalinist far left faggot in a public street demo they'd be put in Prison.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Remember when Blair was Bushes lapdog. War in the middle east and eastern Europe.

History repeating itself.

Lamy needs to stop leaning on that despatch box like he's in the pub propping up the bar, he does like the sound of his own voice.

If someone called Starmer a Stalinist far left faggot in a public street demo they'd be put in Prison.

"

Glad to see the standard of debate around here isn't slipping.

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By *ensherman333 OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Newcastle/Durham


"Remember when Blair was Bushes lapdog. War in the middle east and eastern Europe.

History repeating itself.

Lamy needs to stop leaning on that despatch box like he's in the pub propping up the bar, he does like the sound of his own voice.

If someone called Starmer a Stalinist far left faggot in a public street demo they'd be put in Prison.

Glad to see the standard of debate around here isn't slipping. "

I know surprised someone doesn’t report them ???

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Remember when Blair was Bushes lapdog. War in the middle east and eastern Europe.

History repeating itself.

Lamy needs to stop leaning on that despatch box like he's in the pub propping up the bar, he does like the sound of his own voice.

If someone called Starmer a Stalinist far left faggot in a public street demo they'd be put in Prison.

Glad to see the standard of debate around here isn't slipping.

I know surprised someone doesn’t report them ??? "

What?

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By *erlins5Man
2 weeks ago

South Fife


"If Starmer had any good sense (he doesn't) he'd appoint Farage as Britain's Ambassador to US. "

He hardly spends any time actually doing his day job as a member of Parliament now.....don't give him an excuse to do even less.

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By *oxychick35Couple
2 weeks ago

thornaby


"Remember when Blair was Bushes lapdog. War in the middle east and eastern Europe.

History repeating itself.

Lamy needs to stop leaning on that despatch box like he's in the pub propping up the bar, he does like the sound of his own voice.

If someone called Starmer a Stalinist far left faggot in a public street demo they'd be put in Prison.

Glad to see the standard of debate around here isn't slipping. "

he’s right tho

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
2 weeks ago

golden fields


"Remember when Blair was Bushes lapdog. War in the middle east and eastern Europe.

History repeating itself.

Lamy needs to stop leaning on that despatch box like he's in the pub propping up the bar, he does like the sound of his own voice.

If someone called Starmer a Stalinist far left faggot in a public street demo they'd be put in Prison.

Glad to see the standard of debate around here isn't slipping. he’s right tho "

I couldn't make head nor tail of their post. So I can't say if they are right or not.

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