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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this." Have you considered joining the Reform party? | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party?" How to win hearts and minds... | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party?" With all due respect, what kind of reply is that? So you are happy that for every 100 people in this country, 1 of them I'd here illegally. | |||
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"Immigration is a 'perfect storm' of political and social failings. - Failure to police borders and stop people traffickers. - Overly attractive benefits, housing, legal representation and healthcare to asylum seekers. - Uncooperative neighbours - Weak political leadership - Unskilled yet entitled Brits who won't do menial work. Given the above what can we expect? Did I miss anything?" Yes, you missed quite a few people/companies making a lot of money from it, legal through to services | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this." To that figure you can add over 900 that arrived in a single day recently. If Labour's plans to stop this actually work it will be an impressive achievement. Only thing is, will it work | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? With all due respect, what kind of reply is that?" Just thought they'd be a good match for you. " So you are happy that for every 100 people in this country, 1 of them I'd here illegally. " I'm not terrified of foreigners no. And I don't swallow this kind of misleading right wing media output. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. To that figure you can add over 900 that arrived in a single day recently. If Labour's plans to stop this actually work it will be an impressive achievement. Only thing is, will it work" Labour have a much bigger motivation to reduce illegal immigration than the Tories. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. To that figure you can add over 900 that arrived in a single day recently. If Labour's plans to stop this actually work it will be an impressive achievement. Only thing is, will it work Labour have a much bigger motivation to reduce illegal immigration than the Tories. " Is that working? 🤔 | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. To that figure you can add over 900 that arrived in a single day recently. If Labour's plans to stop this actually work it will be an impressive achievement. Only thing is, will it work Labour have a much bigger motivation to reduce illegal immigration than the Tories. Is that working? 🤔" Apparently the figures are down on last year so it seems to be, but I guess we’ll know when they’ve had more than 3 months to deal with it. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. To that figure you can add over 900 that arrived in a single day recently. If Labour's plans to stop this actually work it will be an impressive achievement. Only thing is, will it work Labour have a much bigger motivation to reduce illegal immigration than the Tories. " I hope that with this alleged extra motivation they actually succeed. With 900 in one day it shows the scale of the task ahead. However they said their plan will succeed over and over again so will be judged on it in due course | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. To that figure you can add over 900 that arrived in a single day recently. If Labour's plans to stop this actually work it will be an impressive achievement. Only thing is, will it work Labour have a much bigger motivation to reduce illegal immigration than the Tories. I hope that with this alleged extra motivation they actually succeed. With 900 in one day it shows the scale of the task ahead. However they said their plan will succeed over and over again so will be judged on it in due course" Last time I looked the home office website had 215,500 asylum applications, of which 42,000 were down for deportation. Sunak apparently agreed to pay France £500 million forwards extra border security. Then on the select committee the home office reluctantly admitted £600k a day spent on 5000 vacant buffer hotel rooms. Now Labour say 1000 more home office case workers to be appointed, to replace the 1000 that were working on the Rwanda scheme, which has now been written off at £800million. There is no knowing who or what to believe, but what is clear is there is no stopping the boats. | |||
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"There's no such thing as an "illegal person"." Of course not. But there is such a thing as a person that has immigrated to a country by non-legal means. That person has illegally immigrated, making then an illegal immigrant. Nobody uses the phrase "illegal immigrant" to suggest that the person is inherently illegal. Quite why Amnesty think they do is unclear. | |||
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"There's no such thing as an "illegal person". Of course not. But there is such a thing as a person that has immigrated to a country by non-legal means. That person has illegally immigrated, making then an illegal immigrant. Nobody uses the phrase "illegal immigrant" to suggest that the person is inherently illegal. Quite why Amnesty think they do is unclear." It is the tactic of changing terms of reference which has been very popular with fringe groups and charities who need support from emotive people. Feeding the ability to virtue signal is priceless. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. To that figure you can add over 900 that arrived in a single day recently. If Labour's plans to stop this actually work it will be an impressive achievement. Only thing is, will it work Labour have a much bigger motivation to reduce illegal immigration than the Tories. Is that working? 🤔 Apparently the figures are down on last year so it seems to be, but I guess we’ll know when they’ve had more than 3 months to deal with it." Down on last year and the year before. Numbers will drop dramatically over the next few months which gives some breathing space for the government to implement something. Personally, I would be happy with a deal that takes x asylum seekers for processing from Europe BUT with the caveat that, if any arrive illegally, Europe takes them back. That will kill off the disgusting smuggling. Also, processing abroad, even using Rwanda facilities BUT, anyone who is successful with their claim can return to the UK. If unsuccessful, they stay in Rwanda or their home country. Their choice. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party?" What an idiotic reply | |||
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"Deport them all. End of story. The clue is in the name...illegal. Get the f**k out invaders. I thought the government's main job was to keep us safe from attack and invasion? Apparently not. " Good news Buck. There is no "invasion", and we're not under attack from foreigners.  | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply " Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party?" Have you considered putting a few up in your spare room? Thought not.  | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match?" so anyone remotely worried about illegal immigration is immediately a reform voter? | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match?so anyone remotely worried about illegal immigration is immediately a reform voter? " There does seem to be that conflation where concerns about illegal people smuggling automatically labels you as a 'foreigner hater', 'racist', and Reform Party founder member. It's perverse. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? Have you considered putting a few up in your spare room? Thought not. "This is my favourite gotcha from the anti-immigrant brigade! As if the only solution is for them to stay at a person who isn't panicking about foreigners house. Amazing | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match?so anyone remotely worried about illegal immigration is immediately a reform voter? " No idea, this person seems much more than "remotely worried". | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match?so anyone remotely worried about illegal immigration is immediately a reform voter? There does seem to be that conflation where concerns about illegal people smuggling automatically labels you as a 'foreigner hater', 'racist', and Reform Party founder member. It's perverse." Are you labelling Reform voters "racist" and "foreigner hater"? Because I certainly didn't. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. No, but I see the terms used frequently by some 
Have you considered joining the Reform party?
What an idiotic reply
Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match?so anyone remotely worried about illegal immigration is immediately a reform voter?
There does seem to be that conflation where concerns about illegal people smuggling automatically labels you as a 'foreigner hater', 'racist', and Reform Party founder member. It's perverse.
Are you labelling Reform voters "racist" and "foreigner hater"? Because I certainly didn't. "No, but I see the terms used frequently by some
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. No, but I see the terms used frequently by some
Have you considered joining the Reform party?
What an idiotic reply
Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match?so anyone remotely worried about illegal immigration is immediately a reform voter?
There does seem to be that conflation where concerns about illegal people smuggling automatically labels you as a 'foreigner hater', 'racist', and Reform Party founder member. It's perverse.
Are you labelling Reform voters "racist" and "foreigner hater"? Because I certainly didn't.
No, but I see the terms used frequently by some
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match?" I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. " There you go! So I was right. " It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. " Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. There you go! So I was right. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned." Well brexit there was a referendum on the topic. Give the people a referendum on net zero targets, and illegal immigration and if we're happy sending billions in foreign aid. And I'll accept what ever out come the majority of the population decides. Sound fair? | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. There you go! So I was right. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned. Well brexit there was a referendum on the topic. Give the people a referendum on net zero targets, and illegal immigration and if we're happy sending billions in foreign aid. And I'll accept what ever out come the majority of the population decides. Sound fair?" Sounds like you've avoided answering the question, and you'd rather be outraged by immigrants or by reducing our impact on the environment and the long term energy savings that brings, than things that actually cost way more. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. There you go! So I was right. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned. Well brexit there was a referendum on the topic. Give the people a referendum on net zero targets, and illegal immigration and if we're happy sending billions in foreign aid. And I'll accept what ever out come the majority of the population decides. Sound fair? Sounds like you've avoided answering the question, and you'd rather be outraged by immigrants or by reducing our impact on the environment and the long term energy savings that brings, than things that actually cost way more. " Not avoided anything. Brexit was put to the public in a referendum. So it'd immaterial if I'm outraged or not. I can be outraged on those other topics because they are happening without any say from the public. Put those issues to the public in a referendum and what ever the majority decide ill accept. Truth is and you know it, the majority would want those billions spent at home first as we need prisons, better infrastructure so on so forth. The majority would not want unvetted illegal immigrants coming across in boat's that end up getting 45 pound a week, free accom, free heating, free phone, free dental and health care. The net zero topic I feel will be a closer call but still should be decided by a referendum before we cripple ourself invested billions into net zero schemes. If you don't agree with this, fine, that's your perogative but the country is creaking at the seams and can't continue to keep going this route unless the majority of the people ask for it via referendum. You totally baffle me, I just can't understand your way of thinking at all. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? With all due respect, what kind of reply is that? Just thought they'd be a good match for you. So you are happy that for every 100 people in this country, 1 of them I'd here illegally. I'm not terrified of foreigners no. And I don't swallow this kind of misleading right wing media output. " you sound like the politicians that don’t want to listen to facts mate it’s a disgrace ignorance of this won’t help only 3% have been deported calling it right wing is silly it’s a fact | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. There you go! So I was right. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned. Well brexit there was a referendum on the topic. Give the people a referendum on net zero targets, and illegal immigration and if we're happy sending billions in foreign aid. And I'll accept what ever out come the majority of the population decides. Sound fair? Sounds like you've avoided answering the question, and you'd rather be outraged by immigrants or by reducing our impact on the environment and the long term energy savings that brings, than things that actually cost way more. Not avoided anything. Brexit was put to the public in a referendum. So it'd immaterial if I'm outraged or not. I can be outraged on those other topics because they are happening without any say from the public. Put those issues to the public in a referendum and what ever the majority decide ill accept. Truth is and you know it, the majority would want those billions spent at home first as we need prisons, better infrastructure so on so forth. The majority would not want unvetted illegal immigrants coming across in boat's that end up getting 45 pound a week, free accom, free heating, free phone, free dental and health care. The net zero topic I feel will be a closer call but still should be decided by a referendum before we cripple ourself invested billions into net zero schemes. If you don't agree with this, fine, that's your perogative but the country is creaking at the seams and can't continue to keep going this route unless the majority of the people ask for it via referendum. You totally baffle me, I just can't understand your way of thinking at all. " Okay got it. So we can spunk away billions as long as people voted for it directly, even if they were lied to to make them vote for it. Fair play to you. "Net zero" is a good example of something not to have a referendum on. Just look at how many people on here haven't got the slightest notion about climate science, yet have the strongest opinions on it. Disaster waiting to happen. The utter nonsense you just posted about immigrants too, further evidence against having referendums on the matters. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? With all due respect, what kind of reply is that? Just thought they'd be a good match for you. So you are happy that for every 100 people in this country, 1 of them I'd here illegally. I'm not terrified of foreigners no. And I don't swallow this kind of misleading right wing media output. you sound like the politicians that don’t want to listen to facts mate it’s a disgrace ignorance of this won’t help only 3% have been deported calling it right wing is silly it’s a fact " I'd like to reply, but I don't really understand anything other than you think I sound like a politician. Which one are you thinking? | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? With all due respect, what kind of reply is that? Just thought they'd be a good match for you. So you are happy that for every 100 people in this country, 1 of them I'd here illegally. I'm not terrified of foreigners no. And I don't swallow this kind of misleading right wing media output. you sound like the politicians that don’t want to listen to facts mate it’s a disgrace ignorance of this won’t help only 3% have been deported calling it right wing is silly it’s a fact I'd like to reply, but I don't really understand anything other than you think I sound like a politician. Which one are you thinking?" This video is exactly what people like yourself sound like jonny. https://youtu.be/1CXMwu530Gg?si=YULF0aRNT7hwlwb5 | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. There you go! So I was right. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned. Well brexit there was a referendum on the topic. Give the people a referendum on net zero targets, and illegal immigration and if we're happy sending billions in foreign aid. And I'll accept what ever out come the majority of the population decides. Sound fair? Sounds like you've avoided answering the question, and you'd rather be outraged by immigrants or by reducing our impact on the environment and the long term energy savings that brings, than things that actually cost way more. Not avoided anything. Brexit was put to the public in a referendum. So it'd immaterial if I'm outraged or not. I can be outraged on those other topics because they are happening without any say from the public. Put those issues to the public in a referendum and what ever the majority decide ill accept. Truth is and you know it, the majority would want those billions spent at home first as we need prisons, better infrastructure so on so forth. The majority would not want unvetted illegal immigrants coming across in boat's that end up getting 45 pound a week, free accom, free heating, free phone, free dental and health care. The net zero topic I feel will be a closer call but still should be decided by a referendum before we cripple ourself invested billions into net zero schemes. If you don't agree with this, fine, that's your perogative but the country is creaking at the seams and can't continue to keep going this route unless the majority of the people ask for it via referendum. You totally baffle me, I just can't understand your way of thinking at all. Okay got it. So we can spunk away billions as long as people voted for it directly, even if they were lied to to make them vote for it. Fair play to you. "Net zero" is a good example of something not to have a referendum on. Just look at how many people on here haven't got the slightest notion about climate science, yet have the strongest opinions on it. Disaster waiting to happen. The utter nonsense you just posted about immigrants too, further evidence against having referendums on the matters. " ah so you don't want a referendum on these things because the results wouldn't go the way you would want them to go doesn't sound very democratic of you | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. There you go! So I was right. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned. Well brexit there was a referendum on the topic. Give the people a referendum on net zero targets, and illegal immigration and if we're happy sending billions in foreign aid. And I'll accept what ever out come the majority of the population decides. Sound fair? Sounds like you've avoided answering the question, and you'd rather be outraged by immigrants or by reducing our impact on the environment and the long term energy savings that brings, than things that actually cost way more. Not avoided anything. Brexit was put to the public in a referendum. So it'd immaterial if I'm outraged or not. I can be outraged on those other topics because they are happening without any say from the public. Put those issues to the public in a referendum and what ever the majority decide ill accept. Truth is and you know it, the majority would want those billions spent at home first as we need prisons, better infrastructure so on so forth. The majority would not want unvetted illegal immigrants coming across in boat's that end up getting 45 pound a week, free accom, free heating, free phone, free dental and health care. The net zero topic I feel will be a closer call but still should be decided by a referendum before we cripple ourself invested billions into net zero schemes. If you don't agree with this, fine, that's your perogative but the country is creaking at the seams and can't continue to keep going this route unless the majority of the people ask for it via referendum. You totally baffle me, I just can't understand your way of thinking at all. Okay got it. So we can spunk away billions as long as people voted for it directly, even if they were lied to to make them vote for it. Fair play to you. "Net zero" is a good example of something not to have a referendum on. Just look at how many people on here haven't got the slightest notion about climate science, yet have the strongest opinions on it. Disaster waiting to happen. The utter nonsense you just posted about immigrants too, further evidence against having referendums on the matters. ah so you don't want a referendum on these things because the results wouldn't go the way you would want them to go doesn't sound very democratic of you" exactly he thinks the ppl are too stupid basically he’s the only enlightened one he thinks there’s no such thing as too much immigration ffs 3 quarters of a million illegal immigrants roaming the streets is just fantastic to this guy lol | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? With all due respect, what kind of reply is that? Just thought they'd be a good match for you. So you are happy that for every 100 people in this country, 1 of them I'd here illegally. I'm not terrified of foreigners no. And I don't swallow this kind of misleading right wing media output. you sound like the politicians that don’t want to listen to facts mate it’s a disgrace ignorance of this won’t help only 3% have been deported calling it right wing is silly it’s a fact I'd like to reply, but I don't really understand anything other than you think I sound like a politician. Which one are you thinking? This video is exactly what people like yourself sound like jonny. https://youtu.be/1CXMwu530Gg?si=YULF0aRNT7hwlwb5 " What does this link take me to? What is it that I "sound like"? Are we not allowed to call out bullshit anymore? | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. There you go! So I was right. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned. Well brexit there was a referendum on the topic. Give the people a referendum on net zero targets, and illegal immigration and if we're happy sending billions in foreign aid. And I'll accept what ever out come the majority of the population decides. Sound fair? Sounds like you've avoided answering the question, and you'd rather be outraged by immigrants or by reducing our impact on the environment and the long term energy savings that brings, than things that actually cost way more. Not avoided anything. Brexit was put to the public in a referendum. So it'd immaterial if I'm outraged or not. I can be outraged on those other topics because they are happening without any say from the public. Put those issues to the public in a referendum and what ever the majority decide ill accept. Truth is and you know it, the majority would want those billions spent at home first as we need prisons, better infrastructure so on so forth. The majority would not want unvetted illegal immigrants coming across in boat's that end up getting 45 pound a week, free accom, free heating, free phone, free dental and health care. The net zero topic I feel will be a closer call but still should be decided by a referendum before we cripple ourself invested billions into net zero schemes. If you don't agree with this, fine, that's your perogative but the country is creaking at the seams and can't continue to keep going this route unless the majority of the people ask for it via referendum. You totally baffle me, I just can't understand your way of thinking at all. Okay got it. So we can spunk away billions as long as people voted for it directly, even if they were lied to to make them vote for it. Fair play to you. "Net zero" is a good example of something not to have a referendum on. Just look at how many people on here haven't got the slightest notion about climate science, yet have the strongest opinions on it. Disaster waiting to happen. The utter nonsense you just posted about immigrants too, further evidence against having referendums on the matters. ah so you don't want a referendum on these things because the results wouldn't go the way you would want them to go doesn't sound very democratic of youexactly he thinks the ppl are too stupid basically he’s the only enlightened one he thinks there’s no such thing as too much immigration ffs 3 quarters of a million illegal immigrants roaming the streets is just fantastic to this guy lol" Anything to add that's not making up complete bullshit about other forum users, then getting angry about it? | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. There you go! So I was right. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned. Well brexit there was a referendum on the topic. Give the people a referendum on net zero targets, and illegal immigration and if we're happy sending billions in foreign aid. And I'll accept what ever out come the majority of the population decides. Sound fair? Sounds like you've avoided answering the question, and you'd rather be outraged by immigrants or by reducing our impact on the environment and the long term energy savings that brings, than things that actually cost way more. Not avoided anything. Brexit was put to the public in a referendum. So it'd immaterial if I'm outraged or not. I can be outraged on those other topics because they are happening without any say from the public. Put those issues to the public in a referendum and what ever the majority decide ill accept. Truth is and you know it, the majority would want those billions spent at home first as we need prisons, better infrastructure so on so forth. The majority would not want unvetted illegal immigrants coming across in boat's that end up getting 45 pound a week, free accom, free heating, free phone, free dental and health care. The net zero topic I feel will be a closer call but still should be decided by a referendum before we cripple ourself invested billions into net zero schemes. If you don't agree with this, fine, that's your perogative but the country is creaking at the seams and can't continue to keep going this route unless the majority of the people ask for it via referendum. You totally baffle me, I just can't understand your way of thinking at all. Okay got it. So we can spunk away billions as long as people voted for it directly, even if they were lied to to make them vote for it. Fair play to you. "Net zero" is a good example of something not to have a referendum on. Just look at how many people on here haven't got the slightest notion about climate science, yet have the strongest opinions on it. Disaster waiting to happen. The utter nonsense you just posted about immigrants too, further evidence against having referendums on the matters. ah so you don't want a referendum on these things because the results wouldn't go the way you would want them to go doesn't sound very democratic of you" I've absolutely no clue what you're talking about. This came from a simple question about what types of spending money outrages you the most. Which you answered clearly. You're happy to spunk away billions on pointless shit, as long as people have been deceived into voting for it. Meanwhile spending on things that might help people, might help the planet, outrage you lots. All the rest is you making up crap about me, I've no idea why you can't stick to the point instead of having a pop at the person. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. There you go! So I was right. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned. Well brexit there was a referendum on the topic. Give the people a referendum on net zero targets, and illegal immigration and if we're happy sending billions in foreign aid. And I'll accept what ever out come the majority of the population decides. Sound fair? Sounds like you've avoided answering the question, and you'd rather be outraged by immigrants or by reducing our impact on the environment and the long term energy savings that brings, than things that actually cost way more. Not avoided anything. Brexit was put to the public in a referendum. So it'd immaterial if I'm outraged or not. I can be outraged on those other topics because they are happening without any say from the public. Put those issues to the public in a referendum and what ever the majority decide ill accept. Truth is and you know it, the majority would want those billions spent at home first as we need prisons, better infrastructure so on so forth. The majority would not want unvetted illegal immigrants coming across in boat's that end up getting 45 pound a week, free accom, free heating, free phone, free dental and health care. The net zero topic I feel will be a closer call but still should be decided by a referendum before we cripple ourself invested billions into net zero schemes. If you don't agree with this, fine, that's your perogative but the country is creaking at the seams and can't continue to keep going this route unless the majority of the people ask for it via referendum. You totally baffle me, I just can't understand your way of thinking at all. Okay got it. So we can spunk away billions as long as people voted for it directly, even if they were lied to to make them vote for it. Fair play to you. "Net zero" is a good example of something not to have a referendum on. Just look at how many people on here haven't got the slightest notion about climate science, yet have the strongest opinions on it. Disaster waiting to happen. The utter nonsense you just posted about immigrants too, further evidence against having referendums on the matters. ah so you don't want a referendum on these things because the results wouldn't go the way you would want them to go doesn't sound very democratic of you I've absolutely no clue what you're talking about. This came from a simple question about what types of spending money outrages you the most. Which you answered clearly. You're happy to spunk away billions on pointless shit, as long as people have been deceived into voting for it. Meanwhile spending on things that might help people, might help the planet, outrage you lots. All the rest is you making up crap about me, I've no idea why you can't stick to the point instead of having a pop at the person." Will there ever be a topic that you actually engage in? What do you actually think about the figures, in all of your posts on this thread, you've expressed no view. Now is your chance... | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. There you go! So I was right. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned. Well brexit there was a referendum on the topic. Give the people a referendum on net zero targets, and illegal immigration and if we're happy sending billions in foreign aid. And I'll accept what ever out come the majority of the population decides. Sound fair? Sounds like you've avoided answering the question, and you'd rather be outraged by immigrants or by reducing our impact on the environment and the long term energy savings that brings, than things that actually cost way more. Not avoided anything. Brexit was put to the public in a referendum. So it'd immaterial if I'm outraged or not. I can be outraged on those other topics because they are happening without any say from the public. Put those issues to the public in a referendum and what ever the majority decide ill accept. Truth is and you know it, the majority would want those billions spent at home first as we need prisons, better infrastructure so on so forth. The majority would not want unvetted illegal immigrants coming across in boat's that end up getting 45 pound a week, free accom, free heating, free phone, free dental and health care. The net zero topic I feel will be a closer call but still should be decided by a referendum before we cripple ourself invested billions into net zero schemes. If you don't agree with this, fine, that's your perogative but the country is creaking at the seams and can't continue to keep going this route unless the majority of the people ask for it via referendum. You totally baffle me, I just can't understand your way of thinking at all. Okay got it. So we can spunk away billions as long as people voted for it directly, even if they were lied to to make them vote for it. Fair play to you. "Net zero" is a good example of something not to have a referendum on. Just look at how many people on here haven't got the slightest notion about climate science, yet have the strongest opinions on it. Disaster waiting to happen. The utter nonsense you just posted about immigrants too, further evidence against having referendums on the matters. ah so you don't want a referendum on these things because the results wouldn't go the way you would want them to go doesn't sound very democratic of youexactly he thinks the ppl are too stupid basically he’s the only enlightened one he thinks there’s no such thing as too much immigration ffs 3 quarters of a million illegal immigrants roaming the streets is just fantastic to this guy lol Anything to add that's not making up complete bullshit about other forum users, then getting angry about it?" anyone who disagrees with you you call angry or outraged pls sing us a new song lol | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. There you go! So I was right. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned. Well brexit there was a referendum on the topic. Give the people a referendum on net zero targets, and illegal immigration and if we're happy sending billions in foreign aid. And I'll accept what ever out come the majority of the population decides. Sound fair? Sounds like you've avoided answering the question, and you'd rather be outraged by immigrants or by reducing our impact on the environment and the long term energy savings that brings, than things that actually cost way more. Not avoided anything. Brexit was put to the public in a referendum. So it'd immaterial if I'm outraged or not. I can be outraged on those other topics because they are happening without any say from the public. Put those issues to the public in a referendum and what ever the majority decide ill accept. Truth is and you know it, the majority would want those billions spent at home first as we need prisons, better infrastructure so on so forth. The majority would not want unvetted illegal immigrants coming across in boat's that end up getting 45 pound a week, free accom, free heating, free phone, free dental and health care. The net zero topic I feel will be a closer call but still should be decided by a referendum before we cripple ourself invested billions into net zero schemes. If you don't agree with this, fine, that's your perogative but the country is creaking at the seams and can't continue to keep going this route unless the majority of the people ask for it via referendum. You totally baffle me, I just can't understand your way of thinking at all. Okay got it. So we can spunk away billions as long as people voted for it directly, even if they were lied to to make them vote for it. Fair play to you. "Net zero" is a good example of something not to have a referendum on. Just look at how many people on here haven't got the slightest notion about climate science, yet have the strongest opinions on it. Disaster waiting to happen. The utter nonsense you just posted about immigrants too, further evidence against having referendums on the matters. ah so you don't want a referendum on these things because the results wouldn't go the way you would want them to go doesn't sound very democratic of youexactly he thinks the ppl are too stupid basically he’s the only enlightened one he thinks there’s no such thing as too much immigration ffs 3 quarters of a million illegal immigrants roaming the streets is just fantastic to this guy lol Anything to add that's not making up complete bullshit about other forum users, then getting angry about it?anyone who disagrees with you you call angry or outraged pls sing us a new song lol" Yeah he's actually coming across very toxic, I'm not even going to engage with him anymore as he's someone who things his opinion is the only opinion that's important , infact has he even gave his opinion on the topic ? His very first post was to try belittle my original post be some idiot remark about reform. Very bizarre individual. | |||
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"I believe that the more wealthy people in the UK are happy to employ illegals, especially in restaurants. Seems it is very expensive to hire chefs. But if you hire an illegal, it is so cheap that it is even worth paying the fines if caught. Also some employers who would have to pay the minimum wage for unskilled workers, are getting away with replacing them with illegal immigrants who are prepared to work for much less. So is it any wonder that working class people are sick to death of these boat people for example? Oh yeah Johnny, you already know I’m a Reform UK supporter. It is something I’m proud of. "Just to clarify things, when you voice objection to illegal immigration is it due to a fear of foreigners or due to the impact it is having on the country's infrastructure and the costs involved ? Do you consider discussions on this subject not worthy and just a distraction tactic or something that is a genuine concern ? If Labour come good on their promises regarding stopping the boats would that tempt you away from Reform ? I also considered Reform at the last GE as well as several other parties except the Tories | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. There you go! So I was right. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned. Well brexit there was a referendum on the topic. Give the people a referendum on net zero targets, and illegal immigration and if we're happy sending billions in foreign aid. And I'll accept what ever out come the majority of the population decides. Sound fair? Sounds like you've avoided answering the question, and you'd rather be outraged by immigrants or by reducing our impact on the environment and the long term energy savings that brings, than things that actually cost way more. Not avoided anything. Brexit was put to the public in a referendum. So it'd immaterial if I'm outraged or not. I can be outraged on those other topics because they are happening without any say from the public. Put those issues to the public in a referendum and what ever the majority decide ill accept. Truth is and you know it, the majority would want those billions spent at home first as we need prisons, better infrastructure so on so forth. The majority would not want unvetted illegal immigrants coming across in boat's that end up getting 45 pound a week, free accom, free heating, free phone, free dental and health care. The net zero topic I feel will be a closer call but still should be decided by a referendum before we cripple ourself invested billions into net zero schemes. If you don't agree with this, fine, that's your perogative but the country is creaking at the seams and can't continue to keep going this route unless the majority of the people ask for it via referendum. You totally baffle me, I just can't understand your way of thinking at all. Okay got it. So we can spunk away billions as long as people voted for it directly, even if they were lied to to make them vote for it. Fair play to you. "Net zero" is a good example of something not to have a referendum on. Just look at how many people on here haven't got the slightest notion about climate science, yet have the strongest opinions on it. Disaster waiting to happen. The utter nonsense you just posted about immigrants too, further evidence against having referendums on the matters. ah so you don't want a referendum on these things because the results wouldn't go the way you would want them to go doesn't sound very democratic of youexactly he thinks the ppl are too stupid basically he’s the only enlightened one he thinks there’s no such thing as too much immigration ffs 3 quarters of a million illegal immigrants roaming the streets is just fantastic to this guy lol Anything to add that's not making up complete bullshit about other forum users, then getting angry about it?anyone who disagrees with you you call angry or outraged pls sing us a new song lol Yeah he's actually coming across very toxic, I'm not even going to engage with him anymore as he's someone who things his opinion is the only opinion that's important , infact has he even gave his opinion on the topic ? His very first post was to try belittle my original post be some idiot remark about reform. Very bizarre individual." ************************************ Yes, I've been there, if you try to engage, he scoffs at your posts and if you reply he always plays the victim and usually accuses one of 'playing the man instead of the ball', or similar. This is anonimity at its most puerile. | |||
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"I believe that the more wealthy people in the UK are happy to employ illegals, especially in restaurants. Seems it is very expensive to hire chefs. But if you hire an illegal, it is so cheap that it is even worth paying the fines if caught. Also some employers who would have to pay the minimum wage for unskilled workers, are getting away with replacing them with illegal immigrants who are prepared to work for much less. So is it any wonder that working class people are sick to death of these boat people for example? Oh yeah Johnny, you already know I’m a Reform UK supporter. It is something I’m proud of.
Just to clarify things, when you voice objection to illegal immigration is it due to a fear of foreigners or due to the impact it is having on the country's infrastructure and the costs involved ? Do you consider discussions on this subject not worthy and just a distraction tactic or something that is a genuine concern ? If Labour come good on their promises regarding stopping the boats would that tempt you away from Reform ? I also considered Reform at the last GE as well as several other parties except the Tories"The burning question. I complain about illegals, and I presume you want to know if is a racial thing. It is not, although I do believe there are enclaves on this island where English is rarely spoken, and that makes me feel sad. The effect that mass immigration has had on our country is negative. We just can’t continue the way we are. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. There you go! So I was right. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned. Well brexit there was a referendum on the topic. Give the people a referendum on net zero targets, and illegal immigration and if we're happy sending billions in foreign aid. And I'll accept what ever out come the majority of the population decides. Sound fair? Sounds like you've avoided answering the question, and you'd rather be outraged by immigrants or by reducing our impact on the environment and the long term energy savings that brings, than things that actually cost way more. Not avoided anything. Brexit was put to the public in a referendum. So it'd immaterial if I'm outraged or not. I can be outraged on those other topics because they are happening without any say from the public. Put those issues to the public in a referendum and what ever the majority decide ill accept. Truth is and you know it, the majority would want those billions spent at home first as we need prisons, better infrastructure so on so forth. The majority would not want unvetted illegal immigrants coming across in boat's that end up getting 45 pound a week, free accom, free heating, free phone, free dental and health care. The net zero topic I feel will be a closer call but still should be decided by a referendum before we cripple ourself invested billions into net zero schemes. If you don't agree with this, fine, that's your perogative but the country is creaking at the seams and can't continue to keep going this route unless the majority of the people ask for it via referendum. You totally baffle me, I just can't understand your way of thinking at all. Okay got it. So we can spunk away billions as long as people voted for it directly, even if they were lied to to make them vote for it. Fair play to you. "Net zero" is a good example of something not to have a referendum on. Just look at how many people on here haven't got the slightest notion about climate science, yet have the strongest opinions on it. Disaster waiting to happen. The utter nonsense you just posted about immigrants too, further evidence against having referendums on the matters. ah so you don't want a referendum on these things because the results wouldn't go the way you would want them to go doesn't sound very democratic of youexactly he thinks the ppl are too stupid basically he’s the only enlightened one he thinks there’s no such thing as too much immigration ffs 3 quarters of a million illegal immigrants roaming the streets is just fantastic to this guy lol Anything to add that's not making up complete bullshit about other forum users, then getting angry about it?anyone who disagrees with you you call angry or outraged pls sing us a new song lol Yeah he's actually coming across very toxic, I'm not even going to engage with him anymore as he's someone who things his opinion is the only opinion that's important , infact has he even gave his opinion on the topic ? His very first post was to try belittle my original post be some idiot remark about reform. Very bizarre individual." he’s not alone at doing this on here but he’s the most prolific at it any talk about the negative impact from mass migration or illegal migration is met with the same bullshit on here I don’t think there’s anyone in the U.K. who actually believes it’s not a problem now but ppl still bury there head in the sand basically what labour are doing now | |||
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"I believe that the more wealthy people in the UK are happy to employ illegals, especially in restaurants. Seems it is very expensive to hire chefs. But if you hire an illegal, it is so cheap that it is even worth paying the fines if caught. Also some employers who would have to pay the minimum wage for unskilled workers, are getting away with replacing them with illegal immigrants who are prepared to work for much less. So is it any wonder that working class people are sick to death of these boat people for example? Oh yeah Johnny, you already know I’m a Reform UK supporter. It is something I’m proud of.
Just to clarify things, when you voice objection to illegal immigration is it due to a fear of foreigners or due to the impact it is having on the country's infrastructure and the costs involved ? Do you consider discussions on this subject not worthy and just a distraction tactic or something that is a genuine concern ? If Labour come good on their promises regarding stopping the boats would that tempt you away from Reform ? I also considered Reform at the last GE as well as several other parties except the Tories
The burning question. I complain about illegals, and I presume you want to know if is a racial thing. It is not, although I do believe there are enclaves on this island where English is rarely spoken, and that makes me feel sad. The effect that mass immigration has had on our country is negative. We just can’t continue the way we are."I've been hearing this since the 1970s. Humans arevery adaptable creatures, that why we are the most successful species. Regarding enclaves not speaking the native language. I've heard Spain has similar enclaves. Also Brazil has decendants of mass German immigration from the 19th and early 20th century who still predominantly speak a version of their original mother tongue called Hunsrik. | |||
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"It appears the stats in the reports how that the majority are visa overstayers comprising of in descending order by number Australians Americans Canadians New Zealanders South africans" You just have to go and spoil it with facts!!! How are we going to keep people angry and afraid if all they have to fear is an ausie barman saying "Wotcher mate, pint of the amber nectar for you and your Sheila?" | |||
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"I believe that the more wealthy people in the UK are happy to employ illegals, especially in restaurants. Seems it is very expensive to hire chefs. But if you hire an illegal, it is so cheap that it is even worth paying the fines if caught. Also some employers who would have to pay the minimum wage for unskilled workers, are getting away with replacing them with illegal immigrants who are prepared to work for much less. So is it any wonder that working class people are sick to death of these boat people for example? Oh yeah Johnny, you already know I’m a Reform UK supporter. It is something I’m proud of.
Just to clarify things, when you voice objection to illegal immigration is it due to a fear of foreigners or due to the impact it is having on the country's infrastructure and the costs involved ? Do you consider discussions on this subject not worthy and just a distraction tactic or something that is a genuine concern ? If Labour come good on their promises regarding stopping the boats would that tempt you away from Reform ? I also considered Reform at the last GE as well as several other parties except the Tories
The burning question. I complain about illegals, and I presume you want to know if is a racial thing. It is not, although I do believe there are enclaves on this island where English is rarely spoken, and that makes me feel sad. The effect that mass immigration has had on our country is negative. We just can’t continue the way we are."No I was not thinking down the racial lines. I know people who will shout racist at anyone expressing concern over the issue but that was not what I was enquiring about. I see it written about fear of foreigners to people who express concern so wondered if that was a fair description of your feelings. Or is it the effects on the country. Seems from your answer that effect is your primary concern but do correct me if that is inaccurate. Also a question on if Labour sort out the small boat crossings as promised, would that tempt you away from Reform. | |||
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"I believe that the more wealthy people in the UK are happy to employ illegals, especially in restaurants. Seems it is very expensive to hire chefs. But if you hire an illegal, it is so cheap that it is even worth paying the fines if caught. Also some employers who would have to pay the minimum wage for unskilled workers, are getting away with replacing them with illegal immigrants who are prepared to work for much less. So is it any wonder that working class people are sick to death of these boat people for example? Oh yeah Johnny, you already know I’m a Reform UK supporter. It is something I’m proud of.
Just to clarify things, when you voice objection to illegal immigration is it due to a fear of foreigners or due to the impact it is having on the country's infrastructure and the costs involved ? Do you consider discussions on this subject not worthy and just a distraction tactic or something that is a genuine concern ? If Labour come good on their promises regarding stopping the boats would that tempt you away from Reform ? I also considered Reform at the last GE as well as several other parties except the Tories
The burning question. I complain about illegals, and I presume you want to know if is a racial thing. It is not, although I do believe there are enclaves on this island where English is rarely spoken, and that makes me feel sad. The effect that mass immigration has had on our country is negative. We just can’t continue the way we are.
I've been hearing this since the 1970s. Humans arevery adaptable creatures, that why we are the most successful species.
Regarding enclaves not speaking the native language. I've heard Spain has similar enclaves. Also Brazil has decendants of mass German immigration from the 19th and early 20th century who still predominantly speak a version of their original mother tongue called Hunsrik. "Well you can be sure that the Spanish and Brazilians feel the same way about immigration. It is always the working class that misses out because of it. | |||
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"I believe that the more wealthy people in the UK are happy to employ illegals, especially in restaurants. Seems it is very expensive to hire chefs. But if you hire an illegal, it is so cheap that it is even worth paying the fines if caught. Also some employers who would have to pay the minimum wage for unskilled workers, are getting away with replacing them with illegal immigrants who are prepared to work for much less. So is it any wonder that working class people are sick to death of these boat people for example? Oh yeah Johnny, you already know I’m a Reform UK supporter. It is something I’m proud of.
Just to clarify things, when you voice objection to illegal immigration is it due to a fear of foreigners or due to the impact it is having on the country's infrastructure and the costs involved ? Do you consider discussions on this subject not worthy and just a distraction tactic or something that is a genuine concern ? If Labour come good on their promises regarding stopping the boats would that tempt you away from Reform ? I also considered Reform at the last GE as well as several other parties except the Tories
The burning question. I complain about illegals, and I presume you want to know if is a racial thing. It is not, although I do believe there are enclaves on this island where English is rarely spoken, and that makes me feel sad. The effect that mass immigration has had on our country is negative. We just can’t continue the way we are.
No I was not thinking down the racial lines. I know people who will shout racist at anyone expressing concern over the issue but that was not what I was enquiring about. I see it written about fear of foreigners to people who express concern so wondered if that was a fair description of your feelings. Or is it the effects on the country. Seems from your answer that effect is your primary concern but do correct me if that is inaccurate. Also a question on if Labour sort out the small boat crossings as promised, would that tempt you away from Reform."I couldn’t support Labour no matter what they did, especially in the short term. They are even less sincere than today’s Tories. | |||
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"I believe that the more wealthy people in the UK are happy to employ illegals, especially in restaurants. Seems it is very expensive to hire chefs. But if you hire an illegal, it is so cheap that it is even worth paying the fines if caught. Also some employers who would have to pay the minimum wage for unskilled workers, are getting away with replacing them with illegal immigrants who are prepared to work for much less. So is it any wonder that working class people are sick to death of these boat people for example? Oh yeah Johnny, you already know I’m a Reform UK supporter. It is something I’m proud of.
Just to clarify things, when you voice objection to illegal immigration is it due to a fear of foreigners or due to the impact it is having on the country's infrastructure and the costs involved ? Do you consider discussions on this subject not worthy and just a distraction tactic or something that is a genuine concern ? If Labour come good on their promises regarding stopping the boats would that tempt you away from Reform ? I also considered Reform at the last GE as well as several other parties except the Tories
The burning question. I complain about illegals, and I presume you want to know if is a racial thing. It is not, although I do believe there are enclaves on this island where English is rarely spoken, and that makes me feel sad. The effect that mass immigration has had on our country is negative. We just can’t continue the way we are.
No I was not thinking down the racial lines. I know people who will shout racist at anyone expressing concern over the issue but that was not what I was enquiring about. I see it written about fear of foreigners to people who express concern so wondered if that was a fair description of your feelings. Or is it the effects on the country. Seems from your answer that effect is your primary concern but do correct me if that is inaccurate. Also a question on if Labour sort out the small boat crossings as promised, would that tempt you away from Reform.
I couldn’t support Labour no matter what they did, especially in the short term. They are even less sincere than today’s Tories."Totally agree, I’ve heard the 1 in every 100 are give the Labour Party members freebie’s to stay in country x | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party?" I’m already a member twotone Tony. May be one day when your balls drop you might consider joining us  | |||
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" Have you considered joining the Reform party? I’m already a member twotone Tony. May be one day when your balls drop you might consider joining us "Harsh…… but ultimately fair  | |||
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"It appears the stats in the reports how that the majority are visa overstayers comprising of in descending order by number Australians Americans Canadians New Zealanders South africans" As each one of those people applied for a visa they would of been checked before entering the country i.e. Name of country, birth date, criminal records etc, Still breaking the law by overstaying but don't try and group them in with people who have entered the country illegally or applying for asylum etc | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? Have you considered putting a few up in your spare room? Thought not. "A reform MP? 🤪 | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. " We haven't got to four months yet | |||
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"I believe that the more wealthy people in the UK are happy to employ illegals, especially in restaurants. Seems it is very expensive to hire chefs. But if you hire an illegal, it is so cheap that it is even worth paying the fines if caught. Also some employers who would have to pay the minimum wage for unskilled workers, are getting away with replacing them with illegal immigrants who are prepared to work for much less. So is it any wonder that working class people are sick to death of these boat people for example? Oh yeah Johnny, you already know I’m a Reform UK supporter. It is something I’m proud of.
Just to clarify things, when you voice objection to illegal immigration is it due to a fear of foreigners or due to the impact it is having on the country's infrastructure and the costs involved ? Do you consider discussions on this subject not worthy and just a distraction tactic or something that is a genuine concern ? If Labour come good on their promises regarding stopping the boats would that tempt you away from Reform ? I also considered Reform at the last GE as well as several other parties except the Tories
The burning question. I complain about illegals, and I presume you want to know if is a racial thing. It is not, although I do believe there are enclaves on this island where English is rarely spoken, and that makes me feel sad. The effect that mass immigration has had on our country is negative. We just can’t continue the way we are."Welsh, Scottish, Cornish? | |||
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"I believe that the more wealthy people in the UK are happy to employ illegals, especially in restaurants. Seems it is very expensive to hire chefs. But if you hire an illegal, it is so cheap that it is even worth paying the fines if caught. Also some employers who would have to pay the minimum wage for unskilled workers, are getting away with replacing them with illegal immigrants who are prepared to work for much less. So is it any wonder that working class people are sick to death of these boat people for example? Oh yeah Johnny, you already know I’m a Reform UK supporter. It is something I’m proud of.
Just to clarify things, when you voice objection to illegal immigration is it due to a fear of foreigners or due to the impact it is having on the country's infrastructure and the costs involved ? Do you consider discussions on this subject not worthy and just a distraction tactic or something that is a genuine concern ? If Labour come good on their promises regarding stopping the boats would that tempt you away from Reform ? I also considered Reform at the last GE as well as several other parties except the Tories
The burning question. I complain about illegals, and I presume you want to know if is a racial thing. It is not, although I do believe there are enclaves on this island where English is rarely spoken, and that makes me feel sad. The effect that mass immigration has had on our country is negative. We just can’t continue the way we are.
No I was not thinking down the racial lines. I know people who will shout racist at anyone expressing concern over the issue but that was not what I was enquiring about. I see it written about fear of foreigners to people who express concern so wondered if that was a fair description of your feelings. Or is it the effects on the country. Seems from your answer that effect is your primary concern but do correct me if that is inaccurate. Also a question on if Labour sort out the small boat crossings as promised, would that tempt you away from Reform.
I couldn’t support Labour no matter what they did, especially in the short term. They are even less sincere than today’s Tories."Yes, it's quite an achievement but apparently according to a prominent Labour MP it is just being a bit clunky and should be expected of a new government. Something that should console the pensioners as they freeze this winter. | |||
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"Yes bless em, they haven't got to four months yet. " They had 14 years to prepare and plan for this … and this is the best they can do! | |||
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"It appears the stats in the reports how that the majority are visa overstayers comprising of in descending order by number Australians Americans Canadians New Zealanders South africans As each one of those people applied for a visa they would of been checked before entering the country i.e. Name of country, birth date, criminal records etc, Still breaking the law by overstaying but don't try and group them in with people who have entered the country illegally or applying for asylum etc " … but they make up the bulk of the “1 in 100” statistic. See the point being made? | |||
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"Yes bless em, they haven't got to four months yet. They had 14 years to prepare and plan for this … and this is the best they can do! " Not defending Labour as it is quite clear to me that they don’t listen to expert advice and will plough ahead with their policies for ideological reasons (probably because they want to look “strong”) however, when you are in opposition (and 14 years was a long time) you do nkt have full access to “the books” to see what is really going on. You get to sit on or chair cross party committees, challenge through PM Questions etc. You only get to see major policy announcements, inc budget, a little ahead of the public. In the run up to the Election the Civil Service run sessions with the party likely to be the next potential govt, but these remain limited in scope. It really isn’t until they take office that they can lift the bonnet and find out what is really going on. It will be the same when we inevitably switch back to the Conservatives. | |||
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"Yes bless em, they haven't got to four months yet. They had 14 years to prepare and plan for this … and this is the best they can do! Not defending Labour as it is quite clear to me that they don’t listen to expert advice and will plough ahead with their policies for ideological reasons (probably because they want to look “strong”) however, when you are in opposition (and 14 years was a long time) you do nkt have full access to “the books” to see what is really going on. You get to sit on or chair cross party committees, challenge through PM Questions etc. You only get to see major policy announcements, inc budget, a little ahead of the public. In the run up to the Election the Civil Service run sessions with the party likely to be the next potential govt, but these remain limited in scope. It really isn’t until they take office that they can lift the bonnet and find out what is really going on. It will be the same when we inevitably switch back to the Conservatives. " That doesn’t explain some of their key policies unravelling so quickly or being proven to be financially illiterate. 14 years, and they didn’t really get past “tax the rich” as a battle cry. Poorly thought-through headline-grabbing ideas that don’t stand up in practice. The impact on their ratings is jaw-dropping in terms of scale and speed. | |||
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"Yes bless em, they haven't got to four months yet. They had 14 years to prepare and plan for this … and this is the best they can do! Not defending Labour as it is quite clear to me that they don’t listen to expert advice and will plough ahead with their policies for ideological reasons (probably because they want to look “strong”) however, when you are in opposition (and 14 years was a long time) you do nkt have full access to “the books” to see what is really going on. You get to sit on or chair cross party committees, challenge through PM Questions etc. You only get to see major policy announcements, inc budget, a little ahead of the public. In the run up to the Election the Civil Service run sessions with the party likely to be the next potential govt, but these remain limited in scope. It really isn’t until they take office that they can lift the bonnet and find out what is really going on. It will be the same when we inevitably switch back to the Conservatives. That doesn’t explain some of their key policies unravelling so quickly or being proven to be financially illiterate. 14 years, and they didn’t really get past “tax the rich” as a battle cry. Poorly thought-through headline-grabbing ideas that don’t stand up in practice. The impact on their ratings is jaw-dropping in terms of scale and speed. " Agreed. They had time to work with economists etc to develop scenarios and impact assessments that could then be ratified once in govt. They (any govt) should treat the electorate/citizens with respect and be honest. Just say, we had planned to do XYZ but now we have lifted the bonnet we need to change tack to do ABC. However, there is always a caveat. The markets are easily spooked and sniffs of finance problems and unfunded commitments can have big impacts (as Truss discovered). So it is a delicate balancing act being in govt. Far easier to be the opposition | |||
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"Yes bless em, they haven't got to four months yet. They had 14 years to prepare and plan for this … and this is the best they can do! Not defending Labour as it is quite clear to me that they don’t listen to expert advice and will plough ahead with their policies for ideological reasons (probably because they want to look “strong”) however, when you are in opposition (and 14 years was a long time) you do nkt have full access to “the books” to see what is really going on. You get to sit on or chair cross party committees, challenge through PM Questions etc. You only get to see major policy announcements, inc budget, a little ahead of the public. In the run up to the Election the Civil Service run sessions with the party likely to be the next potential govt, but these remain limited in scope. It really isn’t until they take office that they can lift the bonnet and find out what is really going on. It will be the same when we inevitably switch back to the Conservatives. That doesn’t explain some of their key policies unravelling so quickly or being proven to be financially illiterate. 14 years, and they didn’t really get past “tax the rich” as a battle cry. Poorly thought-through headline-grabbing ideas that don’t stand up in practice. The impact on their ratings is jaw-dropping in terms of scale and speed. Agreed. They had time to work with economists etc to develop scenarios and impact assessments that could then be ratified once in govt. They (any govt) should treat the electorate/citizens with respect and be honest. Just say, we had planned to do XYZ but now we have lifted the bonnet we need to change tack to do ABC. However, there is always a caveat. The markets are easily spooked and sniffs of finance problems and unfunded commitments can have big impacts (as Truss discovered). So it is a delicate balancing act being in govt. Far easier to be the opposition "Yes it is easier to be in opposition, painting simplistic pictures of what the other lot should be doing, rather than having to implement the policy, warts and all. And the tories will do the exact same now | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? I’m already a member twotone Tony. May be one day when your balls drop you might consider joining us "Well done! Looking forwards to victory in 2029. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? What an idiotic reply Why? Don't you think the OP and Reform would be a good match? I'm not going to lie, after 14 years of tories. And now seeing what this labour government is doing in its first 5 months. Come the next general election yes reform will be getting my vote. There you go! So I was right. It's time the main 2 party's stop getting rewarded with power when they are both failing the country. You how ever can keep burying your head in the sand, if you can't see what a strain on the economy this is along with all the net zero stuff, and sending billions in foreign aid all over the world. Not sure why you're bringing this nonsense into the argument? On a scale of 0 to "immigrants" how outraged are you by the billions spunked down the Brexit toilet every year? Bearing in mind it's way more than the things you mentioned. Well brexit there was a referendum on the topic. Give the people a referendum on net zero targets, and illegal immigration and if we're happy sending billions in foreign aid. And I'll accept what ever out come the majority of the population decides. Sound fair? Sounds like you've avoided answering the question, and you'd rather be outraged by immigrants or by reducing our impact on the environment and the long term energy savings that brings, than things that actually cost way more. Not avoided anything. Brexit was put to the public in a referendum. So it'd immaterial if I'm outraged or not. I can be outraged on those other topics because they are happening without any say from the public. Put those issues to the public in a referendum and what ever the majority decide ill accept. Truth is and you know it, the majority would want those billions spent at home first as we need prisons, better infrastructure so on so forth. The majority would not want unvetted illegal immigrants coming across in boat's that end up getting 45 pound a week, free accom, free heating, free phone, free dental and health care. The net zero topic I feel will be a closer call but still should be decided by a referendum before we cripple ourself invested billions into net zero schemes. If you don't agree with this, fine, that's your perogative but the country is creaking at the seams and can't continue to keep going this route unless the majority of the people ask for it via referendum. You totally baffle me, I just can't understand your way of thinking at all. Okay got it. So we can spunk away billions as long as people voted for it directly, even if they were lied to to make them vote for it. Fair play to you. "Net zero" is a good example of something not to have a referendum on. Just look at how many people on here haven't got the slightest notion about climate science, yet have the strongest opinions on it. Disaster waiting to happen. The utter nonsense you just posted about immigrants too, further evidence against having referendums on the matters. ah so you don't want a referendum on these things because the results wouldn't go the way you would want them to go doesn't sound very democratic of youexactly he thinks the ppl are too stupid basically he’s the only enlightened one he thinks there’s no such thing as too much immigration ffs 3 quarters of a million illegal immigrants roaming the streets is just fantastic to this guy lol Anything to add that's not making up complete bullshit about other forum users, then getting angry about it?anyone who disagrees with you you call angry or outraged pls sing us a new song lol" You didn't disagree, just made up a load of bollocks about me. Ridiculous. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? I’m already a member twotone Tony. May be one day when your balls drop you might consider joining us "Is "balls drop" a euphemism for panicking about foriegners, and not knowing what science is? | |||
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"Yes bless em, they haven't got to four months yet. They had 14 years to prepare and plan for this … and this is the best they can do! Not defending Labour as it is quite clear to me that they don’t listen to expert advice and will plough ahead with their policies for ideological reasons (probably because they want to look “strong”) however, when you are in opposition (and 14 years was a long time) you do nkt have full access to “the books” to see what is really going on. You get to sit on or chair cross party committees, challenge through PM Questions etc. You only get to see major policy announcements, inc budget, a little ahead of the public. In the run up to the Election the Civil Service run sessions with the party likely to be the next potential govt, but these remain limited in scope. It really isn’t until they take office that they can lift the bonnet and find out what is really going on. It will be the same when we inevitably switch back to the Conservatives. That doesn’t explain some of their key policies unravelling so quickly or being proven to be financially illiterate. 14 years, and they didn’t really get past “tax the rich” as a battle cry. Poorly thought-through headline-grabbing ideas that don’t stand up in practice. The impact on their ratings is jaw-dropping in terms of scale and speed. Agreed. They had time to work with economists etc to develop scenarios and impact assessments that could then be ratified once in govt. They (any govt) should treat the electorate/citizens with respect and be honest. Just say, we had planned to do XYZ but now we have lifted the bonnet we need to change tack to do ABC. However, there is always a caveat. The markets are easily spooked and sniffs of finance problems and unfunded commitments can have big impacts (as Truss discovered). So it is a delicate balancing act being in govt. Far easier to be the opposition
Yes it is easier to be in opposition, painting simplistic pictures of what the other lot should be doing, rather than having to implement the policy, warts and all.
And the tories will do the exact same now "Much like I said before the election in that Labour have spent years saying how much better they are so will need to start proving that. Time for talking a good fight is over. Now they need to deliver and need to get used to criticism, just like how they used to criticise others. | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this. Have you considered joining the Reform party? How to win hearts and minds..." I am thinking how not to lose your country. | |||
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"Remove the benifits, housing charity and healthcare the numbers will soon drop, lets face it they dont come here to work or for the weather do they 😂" not according to the french | |||
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"A New report by Oxford University has revealed that there is over 740,000 illegal migrants living here, making the UK the highest in europe. When will it end, we are an island, we do not have never ending resources and free housing and healthcare to accommodate this." Well the definition of illegal is currently up for debate. | |||
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