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"They better have gotten nasrallah in that Beirut strike… because levelling 6 tower blocks in the middle of the civilian district is a hell of a lot of “collateral damage “ Isreal turning down the 21 day truce…. Then doing this …. Netanyahu is spoiling for a war and trying to drag the US in! " Heard his speech earlier bringing the Nazis up to justify war against Hezbollah. | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. " Actually I see this differently. Israel has been around longer than the likes of hamas and hesbolah and are a result of Israeli policy. Israel ignores it's part of the deal and UN resolutions when it suits them in its quest to expand into illegally occupied territory and wipe out any palisitinian territory. Israel will not stick to the terms of the Balfour declaration in that non Jews would have equal rights. If Israel stuck to the terms of its existence by both the Balfour declaration and UN resolutions then there wouldn't be war Israel want to expand and take territory by any means and whoever is killed or harmed including American servicemen and British too it wants 8rwn eliminated and will be happy to sit back and let it happen The palistinians are ignored by Israel the UN and the west so they have no option but to fight for their existence and their rights | |||
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"Biden is being ignored by Netanyahu, the latter whilst being dependent on the USA for weapons is basically doing what he likes.. Interesting to now see what Iran's direct response is if Nasrallah has been taken out, they're witnessing Hezbollah under the cosh and the more that goes on the possibility of their influence and control in Lebanon diminish.." Joe biden is a very weak president presidents in the past held Israel to account by sanctioning Israel for taking more territory illegally. Biden is a real old man and an opportunity for Netenyahu to do more dirty tricks | |||
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"What it Kamala Harris stance on this. Benny the childslayer can’t take on Hezbollah without continuing US munitions and support to keep Iran out " I was thinking this The US seem happy to keep supplies going no matter what and to destroy six tower blocks and god knows how many casualties in Israel's quest to take more land illegally is very concerning | |||
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"Biden is being ignored by Netanyahu, the latter whilst being dependent on the USA for weapons is basically doing what he likes.. Interesting to now see what Iran's direct response is if Nasrallah has been taken out, they're witnessing Hezbollah under the cosh and the more that goes on the possibility of their influence and control in Lebanon diminish.. Joe biden is a very weak president presidents in the past held Israel to account by sanctioning Israel for taking more territory illegally. Biden is a real old man and an opportunity for Netenyahu to do more dirty tricks" Biden was always going to support Israel. He's a self confessed zionist. https://youtu.be/86Nrv5izaTs?si=HkXdDC5KaOdKNN_r The faces of the Presidents may change but Americann foreign policy won't, because it would endanger their system. | |||
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"Biden is being ignored by Netanyahu, the latter whilst being dependent on the USA for weapons is basically doing what he likes.. Interesting to now see what Iran's direct response is if Nasrallah has been taken out, they're witnessing Hezbollah under the cosh and the more that goes on the possibility of their influence and control in Lebanon diminish.. Joe biden is a very weak president presidents in the past held Israel to account by sanctioning Israel for taking more territory illegally. Biden is a real old man and an opportunity for Netenyahu to do more dirty tricks Biden was always going to support Israel. He's a self confessed zionist. https://youtu.be/86Nrv5izaTs?si=HkXdDC5KaOdKNN_r The faces of the Presidents may change but Americann foreign policy won't, because it would endanger their system. " They all represent the interests of the arms industry ££££ is more important than human life. | |||
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"They better have gotten nasrallah in that Beirut strike… because levelling 6 tower blocks in the middle of the civilian district is a hell of a lot of “collateral damage “ Isreal turning down the 21 day truce…. Then doing this …. Netanyahu is spoiling for a war and trying to drag the US in! " you only spoil for war if you know your going to win | |||
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"Turkish president says Israel is committing genocide in Lebanon He has said Lebanese people are the new target of “Israel’s policy of genocide, occupation and invasion” that started last year when it began its war in Gaza after the 7 October Hamas attacks on southern Israel 200,000 displaced in Lebanon, 90,000 of them within the last three days. A lot less than the two million left homeless in Gaza " how many israelies have been displaced from bombings from inside Lebanontwo sides to every story | |||
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""If Israel stuck to the terms of its existence by both the Balfour declaration and UN resolutions then there wouldn't be war" There wouldn't be an Israel, either..." Depends on the term "self defense" The Israeli forces are so much more powerful than others in the region so could easily stuck up for themselves, also if they stuck to the Balfour and UN mandates there'd be a lot less reason for hamas and hesbolah etc.. to exist | |||
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""If Israel stuck to the terms of its existence by both the Balfour declaration and UN resolutions then there wouldn't be war" There wouldn't be an Israel, either... Depends on the term "self defense" The Israeli forces are so much more powerful than others in the region so could easily stuck up for themselves, also if they stuck to the Balfour and UN mandates there'd be a lot less reason for hamas and hesbolah etc.. to exist " On that assumption Israel’s response in Gaza is disproportionate 1200 Jews murdered by the Islamist hamas 50,000 islams murdered by the Jews, and two million more made homeless | |||
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""If Israel stuck to the terms of its existence by both the Balfour declaration and UN resolutions then there wouldn't be war" There wouldn't be an Israel, either... Depends on the term "self defense" The Israeli forces are so much more powerful than others in the region so could easily stuck up for themselves, also if they stuck to the Balfour and UN mandates there'd be a lot less reason for hamas and hesbolah etc.. to exist " What do you mean when you say 'stuck to the Balfour'...? Mrs x | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. Actually I see this differently. Israel has been around longer than the likes of hamas and hesbolah and are a result of Israeli policy. Israel ignores it's part of the deal and UN resolutions when it suits them in its quest to expand into illegally occupied territory and wipe out any palisitinian territory. Israel will not stick to the terms of the Balfour declaration in that non Jews would have equal rights. If Israel stuck to the terms of its existence by both the Balfour declaration and UN resolutions then there wouldn't be war Israel want to expand and take territory by any means and whoever is killed or harmed including American servicemen and British too it wants 8rwn eliminated and will be happy to sit back and let it happen The palistinians are ignored by Israel the UN and the west so they have no option but to fight for their existence and their rights " What do you mean when you say Palistinians are ignored by the UN' ?,,, Mrs x | |||
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"If some one in your family is murdered whilst just going about their business ie Oct 7th you would want some justice. Unfortunately normal courts of justice are ignored by Islamic states because they don't believe in western justice. The only other alternatives are to let it go and hope God serves justice on them or you exact the same against the perpetrator to teach them a lesson. Sadly the Islamic culture only seem to respond to being bombed. Then calling the victims of Oct 7 the villians and accuseing them of genocide is not going to bring negotiations to the peace table. If they hand over the hostages the war will stop. It's that simple. Like 1973 if Israel fold they will cease to exist. They have to fight back. The middle east needs to be friends with Israel it's the only way." I think it's gone beyond hostages now. Israel seem determined to use the situation to eliminate the three H's across it's borders. None of the three will ever be 'friends' of Israel - they are ideologically pledged to it's destruction and elimination. How can you live peacefully next to people like that? The entire Middle East is toxic and fuelled by hatred. | |||
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"Lebanon, Gaza and Yemen are either run or infiltrated by terrorists so wont change unless..............." They should be neutered and made inconsequential as should all terrorist groups, Mrs x | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?" So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?" What's happening in Lebanon has nothing to do with a two state solution. Hezbollah has no skin in the Israel/Palestine game. They are purely a proxy of Iran with the primary aim of eradicating Israel and a secondary aim of enforcing a similar set of religious laws as in Iran, wherever they can. | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x" Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders? | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ? What's happening in Lebanon has nothing to do with a two state solution. Hezbollah has no skin in the Israel/Palestine game. They are purely a proxy of Iran with the primary aim of eradicating Israel and a secondary aim of enforcing a similar set of religious laws as in Iran, wherever they can." He is posing a question what will Israel do when they have achieved their goals, and that Israel is aware of countries who will stand them against those who threaten them, but Israel do not want to know including a two state solution which is hoped would settle the region., and this is not reported in MSM. | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?" I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x" Ho dear here I am again with this person ho why ho why. I found it, I am sure you can. Bye bye | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x Ho dear here I am again with this person ho why ho why. I found it, I am sure you can. Bye bye" Haha so it's X again, Mrs x | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ? What's happening in Lebanon has nothing to do with a two state solution. Hezbollah has no skin in the Israel/Palestine game. They are purely a proxy of Iran with the primary aim of eradicating Israel and a secondary aim of enforcing a similar set of religious laws as in Iran, wherever they can. He is posing a question what will Israel do when they have achieved their goals, and that Israel is aware of countries who will stand them against those who threaten them, but Israel do not want to know including a two state solution which is hoped would settle the region., and this is not reported in MSM." There are reports in the Israeli media that the plan is to occupy south Lebanon. Call it a security buffer zone. | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x Ho dear here I am again with this person ho why ho why. I found it, I am sure you can. Bye bye Haha so it's X again, Mrs x" You are referring to the press conference where the Jordainian foreign secretary says he has a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries to guarantee Israels safety should they agree to a two state solution. He says guarantee yet two of those countries are continuing to allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. So why hasn't this stopped? Why haven't the missiles from Hamas stopped? Why haven't Hamas released the hostages yet? If this Arab coalition meant what they said why haven't they taken steps towards this? No mention of Iran even, who are founding these terrorists and who said they will attack Israel again. Not sure their guarantees are genuine or even possible. Mrs x | |||
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" There are reports in the Israeli media that the plan is to occupy south Lebanon. Call it a security buffer zone." So basically invading the sovereign territory of another nation….. I mean.. if they really want to create a “buffer zone” they could always move back from their own border What Isreal are really trying to do is goad Iran into firing “something”… which Isreal will then use as cover to blow up Iranian military and nuclear facilities I do find it interesting yesterday that instead of saying to the Iranian people that our quarrel is not with you.. but with the government! But instead warned them all they are targets of they get in the way | |||
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"Is as reported, Iran going to launch the ballistic missiles on Israel. " If I was Iran … it doesn’t have to be more than 1 cruise missile aimed at mossad/ shin bet HQ It will be shot down by the iron dome defence system… but it send a message rather than escalation | |||
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"Is as reported, Iran going to launch the ballistic missiles on Israel. If I was Iran … it doesn’t have to be more than 1 cruise missile aimed at mossad/ shin bet HQ It will be shot down by the iron dome defence system… but it send a message rather than escalation " Israel’s iron dome is not designed to shoot down ballistic missiles. Apparently they have other systems that can, if USA is sending three squadrons this is a significant threat. | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?" When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x | |||
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" There are reports in the Israeli media that the plan is to occupy south Lebanon. Call it a security buffer zone. So basically invading the sovereign territory of another nation….. I mean.. if they really want to create a “buffer zone” they could always move back from their own border What Isreal are really trying to do is goad Iran into firing “something”… which Isreal will then use as cover to blow up Iranian military and nuclear facilities I do find it interesting yesterday that instead of saying to the Iranian people that our quarrel is not with you.. but with the government! But instead warned them all they are targets of they get in the way " hmmmm so are you for Iran or Isreal _abio ? And all country’s at war try to goad there opponent into doing something stupid the art of war comes to mind | |||
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" There are reports in the Israeli media that the plan is to occupy south Lebanon. Call it a security buffer zone. So basically invading the sovereign territory of another nation….. I mean.. if they really want to create a “buffer zone” they could always move back from their own border What Isreal are really trying to do is goad Iran into firing “something”… which Isreal will then use as cover to blow up Iranian military and nuclear facilities I do find it interesting yesterday that instead of saying to the Iranian people that our quarrel is not with you.. but with the government! But instead warned them all they are targets of they get in the way " So if your neighbour is kicking holes in your garden fence you would lose a strip and build another fence? Come on Fabio.. It's a bit like saying in the second world war we should have abandoned the capital completely because of the V2 threat.. | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x" Now if you can translate to layman's English. | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. " They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x" dunno if your talking about Israeli goverment or hamas | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs xdunno if your talking about Israeli goverment or hamas" IDF are not a recognised terrorist group but if it helps your narrative just say what you like. Mrs x | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs xdunno if your talking about Israeli goverment or hamasIDF are not a recognised terrorist group but if it helps your narrative just say what you like. Mrs x" I didn't mention the idf there just the military who follow orders I said the Israeli goverment,and just like yourself I will say what I like,I don't have a narrative as I give as much of a fuck about Israel as I do about Palestine,I just don't see any difference between benny boys goverment and hamas both of them are slaughtering innocents | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. " Do? Stop persecuting and tyrranising the Palestinians . Stop stealing land and homes and slaughtering innocents . Buggering and torturing detainees who haven't even been charged. Stop trying to provoke a wider war. Stop poking the hornets next tactically and strategically to keep the blood money pouring in. Stop buying the complicity of corrupt western politicians. Oh and before I get the tired old " Israel has a right to defend itself" or " hamas uses human shields" or " hamas started a war on Oct 7th". It isn't a war it's a slaughter. A war is when both sets of combatants have an organised defense force and tanks and air craft etc etc. I hate hamas and unequivocally condemn their actions but you don't respond or advocate an outrage 50/60 times worse in response . By the way prior to Oct 7th 95 per cent of civilian deaths..Palestinians. 82 per cent of rockets fired in the Lebanon exchange..Israeli. | |||
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"If some one in your family is murdered whilst just going about their business ie Oct 7th you would want some justice. " --------------------------- The conflict between Jews and Palestinians predates 7th October by about 75 years. | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x Ho dear here I am again with this person ho why ho why. I found it, I am sure you can. Bye bye Haha so it's X again, Mrs x" You know nothing John Snow of the 15% who want to continue seeing dead children on the streets of Gaza and the West Bank. You are non important a dwindling group of war mongers with little to no sense of what this conflict means for the Middle East and wider regions. At the start of this present conflict your number was big, but now there is 10 at the most who speak for Israel. | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x Ho dear here I am again with this person ho why ho why. I found it, I am sure you can. Bye bye Haha so it's X again, Mrs x You are referring to the press conference where the Jordainian foreign secretary says he has a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries to guarantee Israels safety should they agree to a two state solution. He says guarantee yet two of those countries are continuing to allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. So why hasn't this stopped? Why haven't the missiles from Hamas stopped? Why haven't Hamas released the hostages yet? If this Arab coalition meant what they said why haven't they taken steps towards this? No mention of Iran even, who are founding these terrorists and who said they will attack Israel again. Not sure their guarantees are genuine or even possible. Mrs x" 15% that is all you are non important, views non important. Why do I keep replying to 15% | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. Do? Stop persecuting and tyrranising the Palestinians . Stop stealing land and homes and slaughtering innocents . Buggering and torturing detainees who haven't even been charged. Stop trying to provoke a wider war. Stop poking the hornets next tactically and strategically to keep the blood money pouring in. Stop buying the complicity of corrupt western politicians. Oh and before I get the tired old " Israel has a right to defend itself" or " hamas uses human shields" or " hamas started a war on Oct 7th". It isn't a war it's a slaughter. A war is when both sets of combatants have an organised defense force and tanks and air craft etc etc. I hate hamas and unequivocally condemn their actions but you don't respond or advocate an outrage 50/60 times worse in response . By the way prior to Oct 7th 95 per cent of civilian deaths..Palestinians. 82 per cent of rockets fired in the Lebanon exchange..Israeli. " So a war is only a war were both sides are of equal strength, with equal capabilities, is that correct? A response should be proportional and not bigger than intial attacks? It's only Palestinians being buggered and tortured? So Istaeli woman weren't rated on Oct 7th, Israelis weren't beheaded, that baby wasn't burnt in an oven then? Mrs x | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x Ho dear here I am again with this person ho why ho why. I found it, I am sure you can. Bye bye Haha so it's X again, Mrs x You are referring to the press conference where the Jordainian foreign secretary says he has a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries to guarantee Israels safety should they agree to a two state solution. He says guarantee yet two of those countries are continuing to allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. So why hasn't this stopped? Why haven't the missiles from Hamas stopped? Why haven't Hamas released the hostages yet? If this Arab coalition meant what they said why haven't they taken steps towards this? No mention of Iran even, who are founding these terrorists and who said they will attack Israel again. Not sure their guarantees are genuine or even possible. Mrs x 15% that is all you are non important, views non important. Why do I keep replying to 15%" Don't then, but you do know Israeli approval for Netanyahou is on the rise. Mrs x | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. Do? Stop persecuting and tyrranising the Palestinians . Stop stealing land and homes and slaughtering innocents . Buggering and torturing detainees who haven't even been charged. Stop trying to provoke a wider war. Stop poking the hornets next tactically and strategically to keep the blood money pouring in. Stop buying the complicity of corrupt western politicians. Oh and before I get the tired old " Israel has a right to defend itself" or " hamas uses human shields" or " hamas started a war on Oct 7th". It isn't a war it's a slaughter. A war is when both sets of combatants have an organised defense force and tanks and air craft etc etc. I hate hamas and unequivocally condemn their actions but you don't respond or advocate an outrage 50/60 times worse in response . By the way prior to Oct 7th 95 per cent of civilian deaths..Palestinians. 82 per cent of rockets fired in the Lebanon exchange..Israeli. So a war is only a war were both sides are of equal strength, with equal capabilities, is that correct? A response should be proportional and not bigger than intial attacks? It's only Palestinians being buggered and tortured? So Istaeli woman weren't rated on Oct 7th, Israelis weren't beheaded, that baby wasn't burnt in an oven then? Mrs x" Just to clarify something here is your support for Israel so strong that it is ok for them to take land illegally and then risk a large war to keep it ? | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x Ho dear here I am again with this person ho why ho why. I found it, I am sure you can. Bye bye Haha so it's X again, Mrs x You are referring to the press conference where the Jordainian foreign secretary says he has a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries to guarantee Israels safety should they agree to a two state solution. He says guarantee yet two of those countries are continuing to allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. So why hasn't this stopped? Why haven't the missiles from Hamas stopped? Why haven't Hamas released the hostages yet? If this Arab coalition meant what they said why haven't they taken steps towards this? No mention of Iran even, who are founding these terrorists and who said they will attack Israel again. Not sure their guarantees are genuine or even possible. Mrs x 15% that is all you are non important, views non important. Why do I keep replying to 15%Don't then, but you do know Israeli approval for Netanyahou is on the rise. Mrs x" We are not Israel, this is Great Britian and in Great Britain 15% want to continue bombing. | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. Do? Stop persecuting and tyrranising the Palestinians . Stop stealing land and homes and slaughtering innocents . Buggering and torturing detainees who haven't even been charged. Stop trying to provoke a wider war. Stop poking the hornets next tactically and strategically to keep the blood money pouring in. Stop buying the complicity of corrupt western politicians. Oh and before I get the tired old " Israel has a right to defend itself" or " hamas uses human shields" or " hamas started a war on Oct 7th". It isn't a war it's a slaughter. A war is when both sets of combatants have an organised defense force and tanks and air craft etc etc. I hate hamas and unequivocally condemn their actions but you don't respond or advocate an outrage 50/60 times worse in response . By the way prior to Oct 7th 95 per cent of civilian deaths..Palestinians. 82 per cent of rockets fired in the Lebanon exchange..Israeli. So a war is only a war were both sides are of equal strength, with equal capabilities, is that correct? A response should be proportional and not bigger than intial attacks? It's only Palestinians being buggered and tortured? So Istaeli woman weren't rated on Oct 7th, Israelis weren't beheaded, that baby wasn't burnt in an oven then? Mrs x Just to clarify something here is your support for Israel so strong that it is ok for them to take land illegally and then risk a large war to keep it ?" I'm not supporting Israel per se. I'm against terrorism. If you care to read my posts I've always stated that I don't necessarily agree with Israels tactics. I believe if you are attacked by a terrorist group, as a country you have a right to defend yourself. Just so I can clarify something, are you so against Israel you think it's OK for a country like Iran to attack Israel with ballistic missiles. And now that they have been attacked do you think Istael does not have the right to retaliate and defend itself? Mrs x | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. Do? Stop persecuting and tyrranising the Palestinians . Stop stealing land and homes and slaughtering innocents . Buggering and torturing detainees who haven't even been charged. Stop trying to provoke a wider war. Stop poking the hornets next tactically and strategically to keep the blood money pouring in. Stop buying the complicity of corrupt western politicians. Oh and before I get the tired old " Israel has a right to defend itself" or " hamas uses human shields" or " hamas started a war on Oct 7th". It isn't a war it's a slaughter. A war is when both sets of combatants have an organised defense force and tanks and air craft etc etc. I hate hamas and unequivocally condemn their actions but you don't respond or advocate an outrage 50/60 times worse in response . By the way prior to Oct 7th 95 per cent of civilian deaths..Palestinians. 82 per cent of rockets fired in the Lebanon exchange..Israeli. So a war is only a war were both sides are of equal strength, with equal capabilities, is that correct? A response should be proportional and not bigger than intial attacks? It's only Palestinians being buggered and tortured? So Istaeli woman weren't rated on Oct 7th, Israelis weren't beheaded, that baby wasn't burnt in an oven then? Mrs x Just to clarify something here is your support for Israel so strong that it is ok for them to take land illegally and then risk a large war to keep it ?I'm not supporting Israel per se. I'm against terrorism. If you care to read my posts I've always stated that I don't necessarily agree with Israels tactics. I believe if you are attacked by a terrorist group, as a country you have a right to defend yourself. Just so I can clarify something, are you so against Israel you think it's OK for a country like Iran to attack Israel with ballistic missiles. And now that they have been attacked do you think Istael does not have the right to retaliate and defend itself? Mrs x" Your last paragraph shows what the 15% believe, so how come the others do not? | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x Ho dear here I am again with this person ho why ho why. I found it, I am sure you can. Bye bye Haha so it's X again, Mrs x You are referring to the press conference where the Jordainian foreign secretary says he has a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries to guarantee Israels safety should they agree to a two state solution. He says guarantee yet two of those countries are continuing to allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. So why hasn't this stopped? Why haven't the missiles from Hamas stopped? Why haven't Hamas released the hostages yet? If this Arab coalition meant what they said why haven't they taken steps towards this? No mention of Iran even, who are founding these terrorists and who said they will attack Israel again. Not sure their guarantees are genuine or even possible. Mrs x 15% that is all you are non important, views non important. Why do I keep replying to 15%Don't then, but you do know Israeli approval for Netanyahou is on the rise. Mrs x We are not Israel, this is Great Britian and in Great Britain 15% want to continue bombing." Do you honestly think that would be the same figure if we were being attacked by these terrorist groups? We should just turn the other cheek if ballistic missiles were fired at us? If you do believe we would not retaliate and defend ourselves you would be mistaken, you only have to look at our history to see that as a nation we would fight back. Mrs x | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. Do? Stop persecuting and tyrranising the Palestinians . Stop stealing land and homes and slaughtering innocents . Buggering and torturing detainees who haven't even been charged. Stop trying to provoke a wider war. Stop poking the hornets next tactically and strategically to keep the blood money pouring in. Stop buying the complicity of corrupt western politicians. Oh and before I get the tired old " Israel has a right to defend itself" or " hamas uses human shields" or " hamas started a war on Oct 7th". It isn't a war it's a slaughter. A war is when both sets of combatants have an organised defense force and tanks and air craft etc etc. I hate hamas and unequivocally condemn their actions but you don't respond or advocate an outrage 50/60 times worse in response . By the way prior to Oct 7th 95 per cent of civilian deaths..Palestinians. 82 per cent of rockets fired in the Lebanon exchange..Israeli. So a war is only a war were both sides are of equal strength, with equal capabilities, is that correct? A response should be proportional and not bigger than intial attacks? It's only Palestinians being buggered and tortured? So Istaeli woman weren't rated on Oct 7th, Israelis weren't beheaded, that baby wasn't burnt in an oven then? Mrs x Just to clarify something here is your support for Israel so strong that it is ok for them to take land illegally and then risk a large war to keep it ?I'm not supporting Israel per se. I'm against terrorism. If you care to read my posts I've always stated that I don't necessarily agree with Israels tactics. I believe if you are attacked by a terrorist group, as a country you have a right to defend yourself. Just so I can clarify something, are you so against Israel you think it's OK for a country like Iran to attack Israel with ballistic missiles. And now that they have been attacked do you think Istael does not have the right to retaliate and defend itself? Mrs x Your last paragraph shows what the 15% believe, so how come the others do not?" cannot work out what you are really saying, so cannot say what others believe, Mrs x | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. Do? Stop persecuting and tyrranising the Palestinians . Stop stealing land and homes and slaughtering innocents . Buggering and torturing detainees who haven't even been charged. Stop trying to provoke a wider war. Stop poking the hornets next tactically and strategically to keep the blood money pouring in. Stop buying the complicity of corrupt western politicians. Oh and before I get the tired old " Israel has a right to defend itself" or " hamas uses human shields" or " hamas started a war on Oct 7th". It isn't a war it's a slaughter. A war is when both sets of combatants have an organised defense force and tanks and air craft etc etc. I hate hamas and unequivocally condemn their actions but you don't respond or advocate an outrage 50/60 times worse in response . By the way prior to Oct 7th 95 per cent of civilian deaths..Palestinians. 82 per cent of rockets fired in the Lebanon exchange..Israeli. So a war is only a war were both sides are of equal strength, with equal capabilities, is that correct? A response should be proportional and not bigger than intial attacks? It's only Palestinians being buggered and tortured? So Istaeli woman weren't rated on Oct 7th, Israelis weren't beheaded, that baby wasn't burnt in an oven then? Mrs x Just to clarify something here is your support for Israel so strong that it is ok for them to take land illegally and then risk a large war to keep it ?I'm not supporting Israel per se. I'm against terrorism. If you care to read my posts I've always stated that I don't necessarily agree with Israels tactics. I believe if you are attacked by a terrorist group, as a country you have a right to defend yourself. Just so I can clarify something, are you so against Israel you think it's OK for a country like Iran to attack Israel with ballistic missiles. And now that they have been attacked do you think Istael does not have the right to retaliate and defend itself? Mrs x" So no opinion on that then? Mrs x | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x Ho dear here I am again with this person ho why ho why. I found it, I am sure you can. Bye bye Haha so it's X again, Mrs x You are referring to the press conference where the Jordainian foreign secretary says he has a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries to guarantee Israels safety should they agree to a two state solution. He says guarantee yet two of those countries are continuing to allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. So why hasn't this stopped? Why haven't the missiles from Hamas stopped? Why haven't Hamas released the hostages yet? If this Arab coalition meant what they said why haven't they taken steps towards this? No mention of Iran even, who are founding these terrorists and who said they will attack Israel again. Not sure their guarantees are genuine or even possible. Mrs x 15% that is all you are non important, views non important. Why do I keep replying to 15%Don't then, but you do know Israeli approval for Netanyahou is on the rise. Mrs x We are not Israel, this is Great Britian and in Great Britain 15% want to continue bombing.Do you honestly think that would be the same figure if we were being attacked by these terrorist groups? We should just turn the other cheek if ballistic missiles were fired at us? If you do believe we would not retaliate and defend ourselves you would be mistaken, you only have to look at our history to see that as a nation we would fight back. Mrs x" Yes like Tony Blair said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction which we now know to be a lie. And went to defend our country based on a lie. 15% and lowering and less intelligent | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. Do? Stop persecuting and tyrranising the Palestinians . Stop stealing land and homes and slaughtering innocents . Buggering and torturing detainees who haven't even been charged. Stop trying to provoke a wider war. Stop poking the hornets next tactically and strategically to keep the blood money pouring in. Stop buying the complicity of corrupt western politicians. Oh and before I get the tired old " Israel has a right to defend itself" or " hamas uses human shields" or " hamas started a war on Oct 7th". It isn't a war it's a slaughter. A war is when both sets of combatants have an organised defense force and tanks and air craft etc etc. I hate hamas and unequivocally condemn their actions but you don't respond or advocate an outrage 50/60 times worse in response . By the way prior to Oct 7th 95 per cent of civilian deaths..Palestinians. 82 per cent of rockets fired in the Lebanon exchange..Israeli. So a war is only a war were both sides are of equal strength, with equal capabilities, is that correct? A response should be proportional and not bigger than intial attacks? It's only Palestinians being buggered and tortured? So Istaeli woman weren't rated on Oct 7th, Israelis weren't beheaded, that baby wasn't burnt in an oven then? Mrs x Just to clarify something here is your support for Israel so strong that it is ok for them to take land illegally and then risk a large war to keep it ?I'm not supporting Israel per se. I'm against terrorism. If you care to read my posts I've always stated that I don't necessarily agree with Israels tactics. I believe if you are attacked by a terrorist group, as a country you have a right to defend yourself. Just so I can clarify something, are you so against Israel you think it's OK for a country like Iran to attack Israel with ballistic missiles. And now that they have been attacked do you think Istael does not have the right to retaliate and defend itself? Mrs x Your last paragraph shows what the 15% believe, so how come the others do not?cannot work out what you are really saying, so cannot say what others believe, Mrs x" I am saying that 15% speak for Israel in this country, I see you as a staunch supporter of Israel in this situation and Israel is only supported by 15% of brits. You should know this I have told you before, but hen your support was at 25%. | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x Ho dear here I am again with this person ho why ho why. I found it, I am sure you can. Bye bye Haha so it's X again, Mrs x You are referring to the press conference where the Jordainian foreign secretary says he has a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries to guarantee Israels safety should they agree to a two state solution. He says guarantee yet two of those countries are continuing to allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. So why hasn't this stopped? Why haven't the missiles from Hamas stopped? Why haven't Hamas released the hostages yet? If this Arab coalition meant what they said why haven't they taken steps towards this? No mention of Iran even, who are founding these terrorists and who said they will attack Israel again. Not sure their guarantees are genuine or even possible. Mrs x 15% that is all you are non important, views non important. Why do I keep replying to 15%Don't then, but you do know Israeli approval for Netanyahou is on the rise. Mrs x We are not Israel, this is Great Britian and in Great Britain 15% want to continue bombing.Do you honestly think that would be the same figure if we were being attacked by these terrorist groups? We should just turn the other cheek if ballistic missiles were fired at us? If you do believe we would not retaliate and defend ourselves you would be mistaken, you only have to look at our history to see that as a nation we would fight back. Mrs x Yes like Tony Blair said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction which we now know to be a lie. And went to defend our country based on a lie. 15% and lowering and less intelligent " So you have no option on UK defending itself if attacked? Mrs x | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x Ho dear here I am again with this person ho why ho why. I found it, I am sure you can. Bye bye Haha so it's X again, Mrs x You are referring to the press conference where the Jordainian foreign secretary says he has a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries to guarantee Israels safety should they agree to a two state solution. He says guarantee yet two of those countries are continuing to allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. So why hasn't this stopped? Why haven't the missiles from Hamas stopped? Why haven't Hamas released the hostages yet? If this Arab coalition meant what they said why haven't they taken steps towards this? No mention of Iran even, who are founding these terrorists and who said they will attack Israel again. Not sure their guarantees are genuine or even possible. Mrs x 15% that is all you are non important, views non important. Why do I keep replying to 15%Don't then, but you do know Israeli approval for Netanyahou is on the rise. Mrs x We are not Israel, this is Great Britian and in Great Britain 15% want to continue bombing.Do you honestly think that would be the same figure if we were being attacked by these terrorist groups? We should just turn the other cheek if ballistic missiles were fired at us? If you do believe we would not retaliate and defend ourselves you would be mistaken, you only have to look at our history to see that as a nation we would fight back. Mrs x Yes like Tony Blair said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction which we now know to be a lie. And went to defend our country based on a lie. 15% and lowering and less intelligent So you have no option on UK defending itself if attacked? Mrs x" As I said in my last post, Tony Blair took the UK into a war which was unsanctioned and based on a lie that suddam could attack us. That is what I remember, only the falklands war in my time has been just. But you would of supported Tony Blair stating GB has the right to defend itself. | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. Do? Stop persecuting and tyrranising the Palestinians . Stop stealing land and homes and slaughtering innocents . Buggering and torturing detainees who haven't even been charged. Stop trying to provoke a wider war. Stop poking the hornets next tactically and strategically to keep the blood money pouring in. Stop buying the complicity of corrupt western politicians. Oh and before I get the tired old " Israel has a right to defend itself" or " hamas uses human shields" or " hamas started a war on Oct 7th". It isn't a war it's a slaughter. A war is when both sets of combatants have an organised defense force and tanks and air craft etc etc. I hate hamas and unequivocally condemn their actions but you don't respond or advocate an outrage 50/60 times worse in response . By the way prior to Oct 7th 95 per cent of civilian deaths..Palestinians. 82 per cent of rockets fired in the Lebanon exchange..Israeli. So a war is only a war were both sides are of equal strength, with equal capabilities, is that correct? A response should be proportional and not bigger than intial attacks? It's only Palestinians being buggered and tortured? So Istaeli woman weren't rated on Oct 7th, Israelis weren't beheaded, that baby wasn't burnt in an oven then? Mrs x Just to clarify something here is your support for Israel so strong that it is ok for them to take land illegally and then risk a large war to keep it ?I'm not supporting Israel per se. I'm against terrorism. If you care to read my posts I've always stated that I don't necessarily agree with Israels tactics. I believe if you are attacked by a terrorist group, as a country you have a right to defend yourself. Just so I can clarify something, are you so against Israel you think it's OK for a country like Iran to attack Israel with ballistic missiles. And now that they have been attacked do you think Istael does not have the right to retaliate and defend itself? Mrs x Your last paragraph shows what the 15% believe, so how come the others do not?cannot work out what you are really saying, so cannot say what others believe, Mrs x I am saying that 15% speak for Israel in this country, I see you as a staunch supporter of Israel in this situation and Israel is only supported by 15% of brits. You should know this I have told you before, but hen your support was at 25%." You can see me however you want but it would help if you've actually read what I've written previously. I have said I don't necessarily agree with Israeli tactics but I do believe any country has a right to retaliate against acts of terrorism. But you seem to believe it's OK, Mrs x | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x Ho dear here I am again with this person ho why ho why. I found it, I am sure you can. Bye bye Haha so it's X again, Mrs x You are referring to the press conference where the Jordainian foreign secretary says he has a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries to guarantee Israels safety should they agree to a two state solution. He says guarantee yet two of those countries are continuing to allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. So why hasn't this stopped? Why haven't the missiles from Hamas stopped? Why haven't Hamas released the hostages yet? If this Arab coalition meant what they said why haven't they taken steps towards this? No mention of Iran even, who are founding these terrorists and who said they will attack Israel again. Not sure their guarantees are genuine or even possible. Mrs x 15% that is all you are non important, views non important. Why do I keep replying to 15%Don't then, but you do know Israeli approval for Netanyahou is on the rise. Mrs x We are not Israel, this is Great Britian and in Great Britain 15% want to continue bombing.Do you honestly think that would be the same figure if we were being attacked by these terrorist groups? We should just turn the other cheek if ballistic missiles were fired at us? If you do believe we would not retaliate and defend ourselves you would be mistaken, you only have to look at our history to see that as a nation we would fight back. Mrs x Yes like Tony Blair said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction which we now know to be a lie. And went to defend our country based on a lie. 15% and lowering and less intelligent So you have no option on UK defending itself if attacked? Mrs x As I said in my last post, Tony Blair took the UK into a war which was unsanctioned and based on a lie that suddam could attack us. That is what I remember, only the falklands war in my time has been just. But you would of supported Tony Blair stating GB has the right to defend itself." No I wouldn't say that about Tony Blair. We weren't attacked and I did not agree with that conflict. I'm glad you thought the Falklands was a just war, so in principle you do agree with me that IF attacked a country can defend itself. The only strange thing is you don't seem to believe Israel has that right. Could you explain why? Mrs x | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x" International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that..  | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. Do? Stop persecuting and tyrranising the Palestinians . Stop stealing land and homes and slaughtering innocents . Buggering and torturing detainees who haven't even been charged. Stop trying to provoke a wider war. Stop poking the hornets next tactically and strategically to keep the blood money pouring in. Stop buying the complicity of corrupt western politicians. Oh and before I get the tired old " Israel has a right to defend itself" or " hamas uses human shields" or " hamas started a war on Oct 7th". It isn't a war it's a slaughter. A war is when both sets of combatants have an organised defense force and tanks and air craft etc etc. I hate hamas and unequivocally condemn their actions but you don't respond or advocate an outrage 50/60 times worse in response . By the way prior to Oct 7th 95 per cent of civilian deaths..Palestinians. 82 per cent of rockets fired in the Lebanon exchange..Israeli. So a war is only a war were both sides are of equal strength, with equal capabilities, is that correct? A response should be proportional and not bigger than intial attacks? It's only Palestinians being buggered and tortured? So Istaeli woman weren't rated on Oct 7th, Israelis weren't beheaded, that baby wasn't burnt in an oven then? Mrs x" If you read my post I condemn hamas. By default if I protest a genocide I'm a hamas supporter? Incredible mental gymnastics and blatantly propagandic deflection. | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. Do? Stop persecuting and tyrranising the Palestinians . Stop stealing land and homes and slaughtering innocents . Buggering and torturing detainees who haven't even been charged. Stop trying to provoke a wider war. Stop poking the hornets next tactically and strategically to keep the blood money pouring in. Stop buying the complicity of corrupt western politicians. Oh and before I get the tired old " Israel has a right to defend itself" or " hamas uses human shields" or " hamas started a war on Oct 7th". It isn't a war it's a slaughter. A war is when both sets of combatants have an organised defense force and tanks and air craft etc etc. I hate hamas and unequivocally condemn their actions but you don't respond or advocate an outrage 50/60 times worse in response . By the way prior to Oct 7th 95 per cent of civilian deaths..Palestinians. 82 per cent of rockets fired in the Lebanon exchange..Israeli. So a war is only a war were both sides are of equal strength, with equal capabilities, is that correct? A response should be proportional and not bigger than intial attacks? It's only Palestinians being buggered and tortured? So Istaeli woman weren't rated on Oct 7th, Israelis weren't beheaded, that baby wasn't burnt in an oven then? Mrs xIf you read my post I condemn hamas. By default if I protest a genocide I'm a hamas supporter? Incredible mental gymnastics and blatantly propagandic deflection. " There were no reported or proven r...s or babies in ovens. Stop insulting your own intelligence | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. "You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics. But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok? Mrs x | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. Do? Stop persecuting and tyrranising the Palestinians . Stop stealing land and homes and slaughtering innocents . Buggering and torturing detainees who haven't even been charged. Stop trying to provoke a wider war. Stop poking the hornets next tactically and strategically to keep the blood money pouring in. Stop buying the complicity of corrupt western politicians. Oh and before I get the tired old " Israel has a right to defend itself" or " hamas uses human shields" or " hamas started a war on Oct 7th". It isn't a war it's a slaughter. A war is when both sets of combatants have an organised defense force and tanks and air craft etc etc. I hate hamas and unequivocally condemn their actions but you don't respond or advocate an outrage 50/60 times worse in response . By the way prior to Oct 7th 95 per cent of civilian deaths..Palestinians. 82 per cent of rockets fired in the Lebanon exchange..Israeli. So a war is only a war were both sides are of equal strength, with equal capabilities, is that correct? A response should be proportional and not bigger than intial attacks? It's only Palestinians being buggered and tortured? So Istaeli woman weren't rated on Oct 7th, Israelis weren't beheaded, that baby wasn't burnt in an oven then? Mrs xIf you read my post I condemn hamas. By default if I protest a genocide I'm a hamas supporter? Incredible mental gymnastics and blatantly propagandic deflection. There were no reported or proven r...s or babies in ovens. Stop insulting your own intelligence " There was in the Arlington Post, France 24 and others. Like your previous response, I found them, I even posted the URLs, you can read them yourselves. It is a fact that Hamas burnt a baby in an oven. Look it up or don't, it makes no difference if you refuse to believe credible media outlets. Mrs x | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. Do? Stop persecuting and tyrranising the Palestinians . Stop stealing land and homes and slaughtering innocents . Buggering and torturing detainees who haven't even been charged. Stop trying to provoke a wider war. Stop poking the hornets next tactically and strategically to keep the blood money pouring in. Stop buying the complicity of corrupt western politicians. Oh and before I get the tired old " Israel has a right to defend itself" or " hamas uses human shields" or " hamas started a war on Oct 7th". It isn't a war it's a slaughter. A war is when both sets of combatants have an organised defense force and tanks and air craft etc etc. I hate hamas and unequivocally condemn their actions but you don't respond or advocate an outrage 50/60 times worse in response . By the way prior to Oct 7th 95 per cent of civilian deaths..Palestinians. 82 per cent of rockets fired in the Lebanon exchange..Israeli. So a war is only a war were both sides are of equal strength, with equal capabilities, is that correct? A response should be proportional and not bigger than intial attacks? It's only Palestinians being buggered and tortured? So Istaeli woman weren't rated on Oct 7th, Israelis weren't beheaded, that baby wasn't burnt in an oven then? Mrs xIf you read my post I condemn hamas. By default if I protest a genocide I'm a hamas supporter? Incredible mental gymnastics and blatantly propagandic deflection. " So when did I even say you supported Hamas? I haven't. When did I mention genocide in my response to you, I didn't. As for mental gymnastics I don't know if you are doing this or not. But it's fairly obvious you are taking a massive leap into the unknown, because you state things I have not said to you. It may help if you actually read what I asked you, in the main why you hold the beliefs you expressed about the 'fairness' of war. If you feel you cannot respond to a question it's not good form to make up statements about the person asking the question, just don't answer it. And how is any of this propaganda? I know that's a question but it's puzzling why you think this. You can obviously ignore this but don't make things up about things I've not said as it just weakens your arguments, Mrs x | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
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But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. "You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago. The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now. If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you. I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth. Mrs x | |||
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"You do know there is sleeper cells in uk. ??? Came over by boats. No women or kids on those boats. Men go to war leave family's at home. This stupid government puts em in hotels. " ive never heard as much shite in my life good god think what your saying | |||
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"You do know there is sleeper cells in uk. ??? Came over by boats. No women or kids on those boats. Men go to war leave family's at home. This stupid government puts em in hotels. ive never heard as much shite in my life good god think what your saying " Prove it's shit then!!! | |||
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"You do know there is sleeper cells in uk. ??? Came over by boats. No women or kids on those boats. Men go to war leave family's at home. This stupid government puts em in hotels. ive never heard as much shite in my life good god think what your saying Prove it's shit then!!! " That's not how ot works normally. The person asserting something normal bears the burden of proof. Mrs x | |||
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"The violence and destruction are abhorrent, but what are Israel supposed to do? Their very existence is denied by the likes of Hezbollah who are sworn to Israel's destruction. The entire Middle East is a toxic pit of warped ideology, it's hard to see a peaceful outcome. Do? Stop persecuting and tyrranising the Palestinians . Stop stealing land and homes and slaughtering innocents . Buggering and torturing detainees who haven't even been charged. Stop trying to provoke a wider war. Stop poking the hornets next tactically and strategically to keep the blood money pouring in. Stop buying the complicity of corrupt western politicians. Oh and before I get the tired old " Israel has a right to defend itself" or " hamas uses human shields" or " hamas started a war on Oct 7th". It isn't a war it's a slaughter. A war is when both sets of combatants have an organised defense force and tanks and air craft etc etc. I hate hamas and unequivocally condemn their actions but you don't respond or advocate an outrage 50/60 times worse in response . By the way prior to Oct 7th 95 per cent of civilian deaths..Palestinians. 82 per cent of rockets fired in the Lebanon exchange..Israeli. So a war is only a war were both sides are of equal strength, with equal capabilities, is that correct? A response should be proportional and not bigger than intial attacks? It's only Palestinians being buggered and tortured? So Istaeli woman weren't rated on Oct 7th, Israelis weren't beheaded, that baby wasn't burnt in an oven then? Mrs x Just to clarify something here is your support for Israel so strong that it is ok for them to take land illegally and then risk a large war to keep it ?I'm not supporting Israel per se. I'm against terrorism. If you care to read my posts I've always stated that I don't necessarily agree with Israels tactics. I believe if you are attacked by a terrorist group, as a country you have a right to defend yourself. Just so I can clarify something, are you so against Israel you think it's OK for a country like Iran to attack Israel with ballistic missiles. And now that they have been attacked do you think Istael does not have the right to retaliate and defend itself? Mrs x Your last paragraph shows what the 15% believe, so how come the others do not?cannot work out what you are really saying, so cannot say what others believe, Mrs x I am saying that 15% speak for Israel in this country, I see you as a staunch supporter of Israel in this situation and Israel is only supported by 15% of brits. You should know this I have told you before, but hen your support was at 25%.You can see me however you want but it would help if you've actually read what I've written previously. I have said I don't necessarily agree with Israeli tactics but I do believe any country has a right to retaliate against acts of terrorism. But you seem to believe it's OK, Mrs x" I believe in a balanced response, not a massacre. | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x Ho dear here I am again with this person ho why ho why. I found it, I am sure you can. Bye bye Haha so it's X again, Mrs x You are referring to the press conference where the Jordainian foreign secretary says he has a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries to guarantee Israels safety should they agree to a two state solution. He says guarantee yet two of those countries are continuing to allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. So why hasn't this stopped? Why haven't the missiles from Hamas stopped? Why haven't Hamas released the hostages yet? If this Arab coalition meant what they said why haven't they taken steps towards this? No mention of Iran even, who are founding these terrorists and who said they will attack Israel again. Not sure their guarantees are genuine or even possible. Mrs x 15% that is all you are non important, views non important. Why do I keep replying to 15%Don't then, but you do know Israeli approval for Netanyahou is on the rise. Mrs x We are not Israel, this is Great Britian and in Great Britain 15% want to continue bombing.Do you honestly think that would be the same figure if we were being attacked by these terrorist groups? We should just turn the other cheek if ballistic missiles were fired at us? If you do believe we would not retaliate and defend ourselves you would be mistaken, you only have to look at our history to see that as a nation we would fight back. Mrs x Yes like Tony Blair said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction which we now know to be a lie. And went to defend our country based on a lie. 15% and lowering and less intelligent So you have no option on UK defending itself if attacked? Mrs x As I said in my last post, Tony Blair took the UK into a war which was unsanctioned and based on a lie that suddam could attack us. That is what I remember, only the falklands war in my time has been just. But you would of supported Tony Blair stating GB has the right to defend itself.No I wouldn't say that about Tony Blair. We weren't attacked and I did not agree with that conflict. I'm glad you thought the Falklands was a just war, so in principle you do agree with me that IF attacked a country can defend itself. The only strange thing is you don't seem to believe Israel has that right. Could you explain why? Mrs x" We have and will continue to never agree. | |||
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"What hasn't been reported by the MSM is that a Jorden minister at the UN the day BN made his speech and ordered bomings. States all Arab and muslim states are in agreement that Israel should be protected, and the Israelis are aware of this but refuse to stop attacking. He states that when Israel invades Lebanon and achieves their aims there, then what next as Israel has no peace plan and do not want a two state solution, so he asks what will Israel do after Lebanon ?So if all Arab states agree Israel should be protected then why do they allow terrorist groups to operate in their countries and attack Israel?.. Mrs x Has Jorden a tourist group acting within their boarders?I only said all Arab states because you said it. I mean those Arab states that allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. Surely they cannot be included in what you are saying. If this is not reported in the MSM how do you know about it and what's your source? Mrs x Ho dear here I am again with this person ho why ho why. I found it, I am sure you can. Bye bye Haha so it's X again, Mrs x You are referring to the press conference where the Jordainian foreign secretary says he has a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries to guarantee Israels safety should they agree to a two state solution. He says guarantee yet two of those countries are continuing to allow terrorists to attack Israel from their countries. So why hasn't this stopped? Why haven't the missiles from Hamas stopped? Why haven't Hamas released the hostages yet? If this Arab coalition meant what they said why haven't they taken steps towards this? No mention of Iran even, who are founding these terrorists and who said they will attack Israel again. Not sure their guarantees are genuine or even possible. Mrs x 15% that is all you are non important, views non important. Why do I keep replying to 15%Don't then, but you do know Israeli approval for Netanyahou is on the rise. Mrs x We are not Israel, this is Great Britian and in Great Britain 15% want to continue bombing.Do you honestly think that would be the same figure if we were being attacked by these terrorist groups? We should just turn the other cheek if ballistic missiles were fired at us? If you do believe we would not retaliate and defend ourselves you would be mistaken, you only have to look at our history to see that as a nation we would fight back. Mrs x Yes like Tony Blair said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction which we now know to be a lie. And went to defend our country based on a lie. 15% and lowering and less intelligent So you have no option on UK defending itself if attacked? Mrs x As I said in my last post, Tony Blair took the UK into a war which was unsanctioned and based on a lie that suddam could attack us. That is what I remember, only the falklands war in my time has been just. But you would of supported Tony Blair stating GB has the right to defend itself.No I wouldn't say that about Tony Blair. We weren't attacked and I did not agree with that conflict. I'm glad you thought the Falklands was a just war, so in principle you do agree with me that IF attacked a country can defend itself. The only strange thing is you don't seem to believe Israel has that right. Could you explain why? Mrs x" I do not see killing women and children to the extent that it will be high on impossible to repopulate their numbers after this thing ends as defence, if you do give your head a wobble. The issue with blindly following the MSM is that actual self thought the ability to be rational fades away. The 15% fail to actually see the long term consequences for Palestine, or even care for their fellow human being. But then again "Stupid is as stupid does"' Babies burnt in overs, for Petes sake. | |||
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" There are reports in the Israeli media that the plan is to occupy south Lebanon. Call it a security buffer zone. So basically invading the sovereign territory of another nation….. I mean.. if they really want to create a “buffer zone” they could always move back from their own border What Isreal are really trying to do is goad Iran into firing “something”… which Isreal will then use as cover to blow up Iranian military and nuclear facilities I do find it interesting yesterday that instead of saying to the Iranian people that our quarrel is not with you.. but with the government! But instead warned them all they are targets of they get in the way hmmmm so are you for Iran or Isreal _abio ? And all country’s at war try to goad there opponent into doing something stupid the art of war comes to mind " Am I for Iran or Israel…. Me… I am for diplomacy! People make it sound like the Isreal proposed security buffer is a little area.. it’s the bit between the current border and the lethani river… That is the best part in points of 60km If you were in central London.. and I said let’s create a buffer zone… 60km would take you as far as Southend to the east… or reading to the west So for Isreal to say to the people of Lebanon “off you pop!”…. I don’t think that is reasonable This the same Isreal that has not only been bombing Lebanon in the last few days, but also Syria and Yemen, This the same Israel that flouted every single diplomatic convention by bombing an embassy in a different country This is the same Israel who are not listening to any one in the west when it comes to proposed ceasefire agreements… but then wants western protection after they have been the ones blowing 3 different countries to shit with bombs Israel has been agitating for this for a long while.. seeing how much can be poked… Since it looks as if the majority of the Iranian targets last night were military types installations .. I don’t actually have an issue, ironically it looks like Iran took more care over targeting than Isreal have done | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
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But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago.
The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now.
If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you.
I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.
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" There are reports in the Israeli media that the plan is to occupy south Lebanon. Call it a security buffer zone. So basically invading the sovereign territory of another nation….. I mean.. if they really want to create a “buffer zone” they could always move back from their own border What Isreal are really trying to do is goad Iran into firing “something”… which Isreal will then use as cover to blow up Iranian military and nuclear facilities I do find it interesting yesterday that instead of saying to the Iranian people that our quarrel is not with you.. but with the government! But instead warned them all they are targets of they get in the way hmmmm so are you for Iran or Isreal _abio ? And all country’s at war try to goad there opponent into doing something stupid the art of war comes to mind Am I for Iran or Israel…. Me… I am for diplomacy! People make it sound like the Isreal proposed security buffer is a little area.. it’s the bit between the current border and the lethani river… That is the best part in points of 60km If you were in central London.. and I said let’s create a buffer zone… 60km would take you as far as Southend to the east… or reading to the west So for Isreal to say to the people of Lebanon “off you pop!”…. I don’t think that is reasonable This the same Isreal that has not only been bombing Lebanon in the last few days, but also Syria and Yemen, This the same Israel that flouted every single diplomatic convention by bombing an embassy in a different country This is the same Israel who are not listening to any one in the west when it comes to proposed ceasefire agreements… but then wants western protection after they have been the ones blowing 3 different countries to shit with bombs Israel has been agitating for this for a long while.. seeing how much can be poked… Since it looks as if the majority of the Iranian targets last night were military types installations .. I don’t actually have an issue, ironically it looks like Iran took more care over targeting than Isreal have done " _abio man howay ffs ya say ya not for Israel or Iran then blow Israel up in yr post just come out and say ur against Israel and be done with it why is it so hard for lefties to tell the truth ? | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
Mrs x
But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago.
The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now.
If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you.
I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.
Mrs x
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But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
Mrs x
But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago.
The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now.
If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you.
I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.
Mrs x"I know the dates they became known has terrorists. The date they became no use to the British and French. It's funny how the Western powers are happy to label one group terrorists. But the other group can kill their soldiers ( King David Hotel, Jerusalem, 1946 ) sink their ships ( USS Liberty 1967), but that's ok. As far has your media and experts comments goes. The Iraq war taught me never to trust our politicians, experts and media ever again. Until then I was a very pro western and media believing individual. | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
Mrs x
But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago.
The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now.
If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you.
I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.
Mrs x
Always the victims Who, the Jews? What gave you that idea? Maybe the persecution they have suffered for thousands of years?
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
Mrs x
But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago.
The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now.
If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you.
I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.
Mrs x
Always the victims Who, the Jews? What gave you that idea? Maybe the persecution they have suffered for thousands of years?
Mrs x
The Jewish history is being used by the Zionists for the Zionist agenda. Many Jews against their government's action. How long are you going to let the holocaust give you carte blanche to behave how you want.."I'm not, I've never mentioned it, you have. Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years not just in the last 75 years. And how are they behaving like they want? I'd have thought they'd like to be left alone, not constantly attacked. 57 Arab countries have supposedly said they will now 'protect' Israel if Israel agrees to their proposals for peace. Sounds great, very nice of them. But why is it 57 Arab nations because at one time or other ALL these nations wanted the state of Israel and Judaism wiped from the face of the earth. 57 nations wanting your genocide, all your immediate neighbours and nations miles and miles away wanted your total destruction. And they now promise to "protect" you. This promise is made despite the fact that they cannot 'protect' themselves from each other, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Iran to name a few that have suffered wars, some civil some against each other. So maybe Israel are hesitant to believe what's being offered and how this can be achieved. Mrs x | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
Mrs x
But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago.
The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now.
If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you.
I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.
Mrs x
I know the dates they became known has terrorists. The date they became no use to the British and French.
It's funny how the Western powers are happy to label one group terrorists. But the other group can kill their soldiers ( King David Hotel, Jerusalem, 1946 ) sink their ships ( USS Liberty 1967), but that's ok.
As far has your media and experts comments goes. The Iraq war taught me never to trust our politicians, experts and media ever again. Until then I was a very pro western and media believing individual."so who you going to trust middleast politicians experts and media then lol | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
Mrs x
But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago.
The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now.
If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you.
I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.
Mrs x
I know the dates they became known has terrorists. The date they became no use to the British and French.
It's funny how the Western powers are happy to label one group terrorists. But the other group can kill their soldiers ( King David Hotel, Jerusalem, 1946 ) sink their ships ( USS Liberty 1967), but that's ok.
As far has your media and experts comments goes. The Iraq war taught me never to trust our politicians, experts and media ever again. Until then I was a very pro western and media believing individual.so who you going to trust middleast politicians experts and media then lol"Normal response is X I find, Mrs x | |||
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"Nothing is normal. I won't be showing my research to prove that I'm right i dont have to. Denmark and Sweden Israel embassy's have been attacked. Just because someone says I'm talking shit with no evidence that I am. Is for them to prove. Not me! I don't waste my time on closed minds. " the attacks on the embassy won’t be terrorists to some on here tho | |||
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"Nothing is normal. I won't be showing my research to prove that I'm right i dont have to. Denmark and Sweden Israel embassy's have been attacked. Just because someone says I'm talking shit with no evidence that I am. Is for them to prove. Not me! I don't waste my time on closed minds. " Again that's not how it works normally. If you assert something and you have done research you then reference it. It's not up to anyone to disprove what you say, it's up to you to prove it. It's not about closed minds but rather minds that are opened to the truth via verifiable facts. Mrs x | |||
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"I’m sick of reading that it is ok for Israel to bomb civilians, because they are being used as human shields by terrorists. I can’t help but remember when the IRA were bombing us and hiding amongst ordinary Irish people. I’m glad that we didn’t respond by bombing Ireland…" So how should Israel rid itself of the terrorist threat it faces on a daily basis? Israel are not bombing civilians but military targets hiding behind civilians. Mrs x | |||
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"I’m sick of reading that it is ok for Israel to bomb civilians, because they are being used as human shields by terrorists. I can’t help but remember when the IRA were bombing us and hiding amongst ordinary Irish people. I’m glad that we didn’t respond by bombing Ireland…So how should Israel rid itself of the terrorist threat it faces on a daily basis? Israel are not bombing civilians but military targets hiding behind civilians. Mrs x" The lavender system AI gospel allows for far greater collateral damage than would be acceptable to many militaries. | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
Mrs x
But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago.
The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now.
If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you.
I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.
Mrs x
Always the victims Who, the Jews? What gave you that idea? Maybe the persecution they have suffered for thousands of years?
Mrs x
The Jewish history is being used by the Zionists for the Zionist agenda. Many Jews against their government's action. How long are you going to let the holocaust give you carte blanche to behave how you want..I'm not, I've never mentioned it, you have.
Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years not just in the last 75 years. And how are they behaving like they want? I'd have thought they'd like to be left alone, not constantly attacked.
57 Arab countries have supposedly said they will now 'protect' Israel if Israel agrees to their proposals for peace. Sounds great, very nice of them. But why is it 57 Arab nations because at one time or other ALL these nations wanted the state of Israel and Judaism wiped from the face of the earth.
57 nations wanting your genocide, all your immediate neighbours and nations miles and miles away wanted your total destruction. And they now promise to "protect" you.
This promise is made despite the fact that they cannot 'protect' themselves from each other, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Iran to name a few that have suffered wars, some civil some against each other. So maybe Israel are hesitant to believe what's being offered and how this can be achieved.
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
Mrs x
But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago.
The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now.
If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you.
I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.
Mrs x
I know the dates they became known has terrorists. The date they became no use to the British and French.
It's funny how the Western powers are happy to label one group terrorists. But the other group can kill their soldiers ( King David Hotel, Jerusalem, 1946 ) sink their ships ( USS Liberty 1967), but that's ok.
As far has your media and experts comments goes. The Iraq war taught me never to trust our politicians, experts and media ever again. Until then I was a very pro western and media believing individual.so who you going to trust middleast politicians experts and media then lol"I watch news from all sides and see who's not reporting what. The truth is usually somewhere in the middle, both sides can be economical with the truth. | |||
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" There are reports in the Israeli media that the plan is to occupy south Lebanon. Call it a security buffer zone. So basically invading the sovereign territory of another nation….. I mean.. if they really want to create a “buffer zone” they could always move back from their own border What Isreal are really trying to do is goad Iran into firing “something”… which Isreal will then use as cover to blow up Iranian military and nuclear facilities I do find it interesting yesterday that instead of saying to the Iranian people that our quarrel is not with you.. but with the government! But instead warned them all they are targets of they get in the way hmmmm so are you for Iran or Isreal _abio ? And all country’s at war try to goad there opponent into doing something stupid the art of war comes to mind Am I for Iran or Israel…. Me… I am for diplomacy! People make it sound like the Isreal proposed security buffer is a little area.. it’s the bit between the current border and the lethani river… That is the best part in points of 60km If you were in central London.. and I said let’s create a buffer zone… 60km would take you as far as Southend to the east… or reading to the west So for Isreal to say to the people of Lebanon “off you pop!”…. I don’t think that is reasonable This the same Isreal that has not only been bombing Lebanon in the last few days, but also Syria and Yemen, This the same Israel that flouted every single diplomatic convention by bombing an embassy in a different country This is the same Israel who are not listening to any one in the west when it comes to proposed ceasefire agreements… but then wants western protection after they have been the ones blowing 3 different countries to shit with bombs Israel has been agitating for this for a long while.. seeing how much can be poked… Since it looks as if the majority of the Iranian targets last night were military types installations .. I don’t actually have an issue, ironically it looks like Iran took more care over targeting than Isreal have done " You say your for diplomacy at the beginning but the rest of your post is far from diplomatic | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
Mrs x
But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago.
The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now.
If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you.
I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.
Mrs x
Always the victims Who, the Jews? What gave you that idea? Maybe the persecution they have suffered for thousands of years?
Mrs x
The Jewish history is being used by the Zionists for the Zionist agenda. Many Jews against their government's action. How long are you going to let the holocaust give you carte blanche to behave how you want..I'm not, I've never mentioned it, you have.
Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years not just in the last 75 years. And how are they behaving like they want? I'd have thought they'd like to be left alone, not constantly attacked.
57 Arab countries have supposedly said they will now 'protect' Israel if Israel agrees to their proposals for peace. Sounds great, very nice of them. But why is it 57 Arab nations because at one time or other ALL these nations wanted the state of Israel and Judaism wiped from the face of the earth.
57 nations wanting your genocide, all your immediate neighbours and nations miles and miles away wanted your total destruction. And they now promise to "protect" you.
This promise is made despite the fact that they cannot 'protect' themselves from each other, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Iran to name a few that have suffered wars, some civil some against each other. So maybe Israel are hesitant to believe what's being offered and how this can be achieved.
Mrs x
Where do you get 56 Arab nations...? According to most information on Google the are 22."You obviously haven't seen the Jordainian Foreign Minister saying there is a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries to offer 'protection' to Israel. He stated this very recently and can be found easily with a Google search. Mrs x | |||
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"This speech regarding the 57 Arab/Muslim States guaranteeing 'protection' for Israel was part of a speech on the 27th September 2024. The Jordainian Foreign Minister said "In a recent press conference on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi insisted that Arab and Muslim countries will guarantee Israel’s security if Jerusalem agrees to allow the establishment of a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 lines, while blasting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s refusal to do so. “The Israeli prime minister came here today and said that Israel is surrounded by those who want to destroy it,” Safadi said at a Friday press conference shortly after Netanyahu finished his speech at the UN General Assembly. “We’re here — members of the Muslim-Arab committee, mandated by 57 Arab and Muslim countries — and I can tell you very unequivocally, all of us are willing to guarantee the security of Israel in the context of Israel ending the occupation and allowing for the emergence of a Palestinian state,” Safadi passionately argued." You can see a clip here: https://www.tiktok.com/@middleeasteye/video/7420762969056873761 Hope that helps, Mrs x" Netenyahu is the leader of the Likud party the Likud charter appeared in an election manifesto of the Israeli political party Likud, which states that "between the sea and the Jordan there will be only Israeli sovereignty" This shows that the elimination of palistinians is the war goal of Netenyahu and the Likud government it may not be achieved in the short term but Netenyahu will find a way to do his best to deceive the UN, Israel's allies and the media and it is working very well indeed | |||
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"I’m sick of reading that it is ok for Israel to bomb civilians, because they are being used as human shields by terrorists. I can’t help but remember when the IRA were bombing us and hiding amongst ordinary Irish people. I’m glad that we didn’t respond by bombing Ireland…So how should Israel rid itself of the terrorist threat it faces on a daily basis? Israel are not bombing civilians but military targets hiding behind civilians. Mrs x" Israel should stop taking more and more land illegally from palisitinian territory Israel should abide by international law and UN mandates Israel should accept UN peace keeping forces into the areas that separate Israel from palisitinian territory Israel should allow the right to return of palistinian refugees back to their homes The palistinisns should disarm and allow the return of hostages Can you tell me if you actually support Israel's theft of land from palistine and their willingness to expand conflict and drag other nations into a wider war war so Netenyahu can realise the 1977 Likud charter? I asked you this before but you must have missed my post | |||
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" This shows that the elimination of palistinians is the war goal of Netenyahu and the Likud government it may not be achieved in the short term but Netenyahu will find a way to do his best to deceive the UN, Israel's allies and the media and it is working very well indeed " That may be true, and fact that Israel has created displacement of 1.9 million in Palestine and with USA bombs has killed 50,000 civilians For balance if Isreal laid down their arms the neighbouring Islam's and Iran would be in to kill all of Israel Their won’t be enough virgin’s to go round for Allahs butchers. | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
Mrs x
But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago.
The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now.
If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you.
I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.
Mrs x
Always the victims Who, the Jews? What gave you that idea? Maybe the persecution they have suffered for thousands of years?
Mrs x
The Jewish history is being used by the Zionists for the Zionist agenda. Many Jews against their government's action. How long are you going to let the holocaust give you carte blanche to behave how you want..I'm not, I've never mentioned it, you have.
Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years not just in the last 75 years. And how are they behaving like they want? I'd have thought they'd like to be left alone, not constantly attacked.
57 Arab countries have supposedly said they will now 'protect' Israel if Israel agrees to their proposals for peace. Sounds great, very nice of them. But why is it 57 Arab nations because at one time or other ALL these nations wanted the state of Israel and Judaism wiped from the face of the earth.
57 nations wanting your genocide, all your immediate neighbours and nations miles and miles away wanted your total destruction. And they now promise to "protect" you.
This promise is made despite the fact that they cannot 'protect' themselves from each other, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Iran to name a few that have suffered wars, some civil some against each other. So maybe Israel are hesitant to believe what's being offered and how this can be achieved.
Mrs x
Where do you get 56 Arab nations...? According to most information on Google the are 22.You obviously haven't seen the Jordainian Foreign Minister saying there is a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries to offer 'protection' to Israel. He stated this very recently and can be found easily with a Google search. Mrs x"You are quite shocking, you posted that i get my information from X. Now you have bothered to find the correct information I first told you to find. You seem to be passing this off as your own finding when at first you were unbelieving and demanded my source. shocking | |||
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"I’m sick of reading that it is ok for Israel to bomb civilians, because they are being used as human shields by terrorists. I can’t help but remember when the IRA were bombing us and hiding amongst ordinary Irish people. I’m glad that we didn’t respond by bombing Ireland…So how should Israel rid itself of the terrorist threat it faces on a daily basis? Israel are not bombing civilians but military targets hiding behind civilians. Mrs x Israel should stop taking more and more land illegally from palisitinian territory Israel should abide by international law and UN mandates Israel should accept UN peace keeping forces into the areas that separate Israel from palisitinian territory Israel should allow the right to return of palistinian refugees back to their homes The palistinisns should disarm and allow the return of hostages Can you tell me if you actually support Israel's theft of land from palistine and their willingness to expand conflict and drag other nations into a wider war war so Netenyahu can realise the 1977 Likud charter? I asked you this before but you must have missed my post " I don't agree with illegal settlements in the West Bank and have said this before. As for dragging other nations into conflict, which nations are you talking about, Lebanon, Yemen or Iran? So there's my answer. Mrs x | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
Mrs x
But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago.
The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now.
If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you.
I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.
Mrs x
Always the victims Who, the Jews? What gave you that idea? Maybe the persecution they have suffered for thousands of years?
Mrs x
The Jewish history is being used by the Zionists for the Zionist agenda. Many Jews against their government's action. How long are you going to let the holocaust give you carte blanche to behave how you want..I'm not, I've never mentioned it, you have.
Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years not just in the last 75 years. And how are they behaving like they want? I'd have thought they'd like to be left alone, not constantly attacked.
57 Arab countries have supposedly said they will now 'protect' Israel if Israel agrees to their proposals for peace. Sounds great, very nice of them. But why is it 57 Arab nations because at one time or other ALL these nations wanted the state of Israel and Judaism wiped from the face of the earth.
57 nations wanting your genocide, all your immediate neighbours and nations miles and miles away wanted your total destruction. And they now promise to "protect" you.
This promise is made despite the fact that they cannot 'protect' themselves from each other, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Iran to name a few that have suffered wars, some civil some against each other. So maybe Israel are hesitant to believe what's being offered and how this can be achieved.
Mrs x
Where do you get 56 Arab nations...? According to most information on Google the are 22.You obviously haven't seen the Jordainian Foreign Minister saying there is a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries to offer 'protection' to Israel. He stated this very recently and can be found easily with a Google search. Mrs x
You are quite shocking, you posted that i get my information from X.
Now you have bothered to find the correct information I first told you to find.
You seem to be passing this off as your own finding when at first you were unbelieving and demanded my source.
shocking "Just for clarity, asking for a source is not 'unbelieving', at no point did I call you a liar. As for my passing off this as my find, when exactly have I done this? It's best if you read something properly before making wild allegations. Mrs x | |||
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" This shows that the elimination of palistinians is the war goal of Netenyahu and the Likud government it may not be achieved in the short term but Netenyahu will find a way to do his best to deceive the UN, Israel's allies and the media and it is working very well indeed That may be true, and fact that Israel has created displacement of 1.9 million in Palestine and with USA bombs has killed 50,000 civilians For balance if Isreal laid down their arms the neighbouring Islam's and Iran would be in to kill all of Israel Their won’t be enough virgin’s to go round for Allahs butchers. " and yet pro palistine supporters the chickens for KFC sorry gays for Gaza crew would say that’s justice and deserved lol | |||
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"Biden is being ignored by Netanyahu, the latter whilst being dependent on the USA for weapons is basically doing what he likes.. Interesting to now see what Iran's direct response is if Nasrallah has been taken out, they're witnessing Hezbollah under the cosh and the more that goes on the possibility of their influence and control in Lebanon diminish.. Joe biden is a very weak president presidents in the past held Israel to account by sanctioning Israel for taking more territory illegally. Biden is a real old man and an opportunity for Netenyahu to do more dirty tricks" So Donald J Trump would be better? Iran sent missiles into a US base injuring 100 Americans [They had warning and took cover]. Trump said they only got "headaches". The Grifter in Chief does not care about his own armed forces because they are all "loosers" let alone anyone else's (except his role model Putin's Ukraine invaders where he is going to force the Ukranians to give up). So we have Iran, [area 1.9 million SqKm, Population 90 million, standing Army 1.18 million] is desperate to attack Israel, [area 0.0202 million SqKm, Population 9.9 million (45% arab), standing army 0.17 million]. All because their religion believes in a different imaginary friend. Iran has been funding and arming Hezbollah in Lebanon [fighter strength 0.06 million est] for 25 years to lob missiles into Israeli settlements. Hezbollah is deeply embedded in Lebanon where it's own government can do nothing to stop them. Do you think the Lebanese government is so totally opposed to Israel? So, how much help should the western nations be giving Iran by sanctioning Israel? | |||
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"This speech regarding the 57 Arab/Muslim States guaranteeing 'protection' for Israel was part of a speech on the 27th September 2024. The Jordainian Foreign Minister said "In a recent press conference on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi insisted that Arab and Muslim countries will guarantee Israel’s security if Jerusalem agrees to allow the establishment of a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 lines, while blasting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s refusal to do so. “The Israeli prime minister came here today and said that Israel is surrounded by those who want to destroy it,” Safadi said at a Friday press conference shortly after Netanyahu finished his speech at the UN General Assembly. “We’re here — members of the Muslim-Arab committee, mandated by 57 Arab and Muslim countries — and I can tell you very unequivocally, all of us are willing to guarantee the security of Israel in the context of Israel ending the occupation and allowing for the emergence of a Palestinian state,” Safadi passionately argued." You can see a clip here: https://www.tiktok.com/@middleeasteye/video/7420762969056873761 Hope that helps, Mrs x" In your original post you wrote 57 Arab countries, not Arab and Muslim. In reply to me questioning the figure of 57 Arab countries, you now say the Jordanian Foreign Minister said 57 Arab and Muslim countries. I googled how many Muslim countries in the world. It came up with 49. But it includes countries where a significant minority practices Islam like Russia and China. So I wouldn't classify them as Muslim countries as such. Considering all the Arab countries are Muslim, I would say the total number of countries with a majority Arab and Muslim population is less than 49. Am surprised you don't think politicians claims should be fact checked. | |||
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"This speech regarding the 57 Arab/Muslim States guaranteeing 'protection' for Israel was part of a speech on the 27th September 2024. The Jordainian Foreign Minister said "In a recent press conference on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi insisted that Arab and Muslim countries will guarantee Israel’s security if Jerusalem agrees to allow the establishment of a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 lines, while blasting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s refusal to do so. “The Israeli prime minister came here today and said that Israel is surrounded by those who want to destroy it,” Safadi said at a Friday press conference shortly after Netanyahu finished his speech at the UN General Assembly. “We’re here — members of the Muslim-Arab committee, mandated by 57 Arab and Muslim countries — and I can tell you very unequivocally, all of us are willing to guarantee the security of Israel in the context of Israel ending the occupation and allowing for the emergence of a Palestinian state,” Safadi passionately argued." You can see a clip here: https://www.tiktok.com/@middleeasteye/video/7420762969056873761 Hope that helps, Mrs x In your original post you wrote 57 Arab countries, not Arab and Muslim. In reply to me questioning the figure of 57 Arab countries, you now say the Jordanian Foreign Minister said 57 Arab and Muslim countries. I googled how many Muslim countries in the world. It came up with 49. But it includes countries where a significant minority practices Islam like Russia and China. So I wouldn't classify them as Muslim countries as such. Considering all the Arab countries are Muslim, I would say the total number of countries with a majority Arab and Muslim population is less than 49. Am surprised you don't think politicians claims should be fact checked. " The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) (formerly Organisation of the Islamic Conference) is the second largest intergovernmental organization after the United Nations. It has a membership of 57 states spread over four continents. | |||
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"This speech regarding the 57 Arab/Muslim States guaranteeing 'protection' for Israel was part of a speech on the 27th September 2024. The Jordainian Foreign Minister said "In a recent press conference on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi insisted that Arab and Muslim countries will guarantee Israel’s security if Jerusalem agrees to allow the establishment of a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 lines, while blasting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s refusal to do so. “The Israeli prime minister came here today and said that Israel is surrounded by those who want to destroy it,” Safadi said at a Friday press conference shortly after Netanyahu finished his speech at the UN General Assembly. “We’re here — members of the Muslim-Arab committee, mandated by 57 Arab and Muslim countries — and I can tell you very unequivocally, all of us are willing to guarantee the security of Israel in the context of Israel ending the occupation and allowing for the emergence of a Palestinian state,” Safadi passionately argued." You can see a clip here: https://www.tiktok.com/@middleeasteye/video/7420762969056873761 Hope that helps, Mrs x In your original post you wrote 57 Arab countries, not Arab and Muslim. In reply to me questioning the figure of 57 Arab countries, you now say the Jordanian Foreign Minister said 57 Arab and Muslim countries. I googled how many Muslim countries in the world. It came up with 49. But it includes countries where a significant minority practices Islam like Russia and China. So I wouldn't classify them as Muslim countries as such. Considering all the Arab countries are Muslim, I would say the total number of countries with a majority Arab and Muslim population is less than 49. Am surprised you don't think politicians claims should be fact checked. The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) (formerly Organisation of the Islamic Conference) is the second largest intergovernmental organization after the United Nations. It has a membership of 57 states spread over four continents." . And they state they will all protect Israel, if Israel will agree to a two state solution. | |||
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"This speech regarding the 57 Arab/Muslim States guaranteeing 'protection' for Israel was part of a speech on the 27th September 2024. The Jordainian Foreign Minister said "In a recent press conference on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi insisted that Arab and Muslim countries will guarantee Israel’s security if Jerusalem agrees to allow the establishment of a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 lines, while blasting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s refusal to do so. “The Israeli prime minister came here today and said that Israel is surrounded by those who want to destroy it,” Safadi said at a Friday press conference shortly after Netanyahu finished his speech at the UN General Assembly. “We’re here — members of the Muslim-Arab committee, mandated by 57 Arab and Muslim countries — and I can tell you very unequivocally, all of us are willing to guarantee the security of Israel in the context of Israel ending the occupation and allowing for the emergence of a Palestinian state,” Safadi passionately argued." You can see a clip here: https://www.tiktok.com/@middleeasteye/video/7420762969056873761 Hope that helps, Mrs x In your original post you wrote 57 Arab countries, not Arab and Muslim. In reply to me questioning the figure of 57 Arab countries, you now say the Jordanian Foreign Minister said 57 Arab and Muslim countries. I googled how many Muslim countries in the world. It came up with 49. But it includes countries where a significant minority practices Islam like Russia and China. So I wouldn't classify them as Muslim countries as such. Considering all the Arab countries are Muslim, I would say the total number of countries with a majority Arab and Muslim population is less than 49. Am surprised you don't think politicians claims should be fact checked. The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) (formerly Organisation of the Islamic Conference) is the second largest intergovernmental organization after the United Nations. It has a membership of 57 states spread over four continents." Just checking the information on them. A interesting bunch. Many of them are not even majority Muslim states. So God knows why they are part of the group. Here's a extract from a Wikipedia page on them. The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation has 57 members, 56 of which are also member states of the United Nations. The exception is Palestine. Some member countries-Ivory Coast, Guyana, Gabon, Mozambique, Nigeria, Suriname, Togo and Uganda are not Muslim-majority.[16] Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Central African Republic, Thailand, Russia, and Northern Cyprus (under the name "Turkish Cypriot State") are observer states, and other organisations and groups participate as observers.[17] | |||
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" There are reports in the Israeli media that the plan is to occupy south Lebanon. Call it a security buffer zone. So basically invading the sovereign territory of another nation….. I mean.. if they really want to create a “buffer zone” they could always move back from their own border What Isreal are really trying to do is goad Iran into firing “something”… which Isreal will then use as cover to blow up Iranian military and nuclear facilities I do find it interesting yesterday that instead of saying to the Iranian people that our quarrel is not with you.. but with the government! But instead warned them all they are targets of they get in the way hmmmm so are you for Iran or Isreal _abio ? And all country’s at war try to goad there opponent into doing something stupid the art of war comes to mind Am I for Iran or Israel…. Me… I am for diplomacy! People make it sound like the Isreal proposed security buffer is a little area.. it’s the bit between the current border and the lethani river… That is the best part in points of 60km If you were in central London.. and I said let’s create a buffer zone… 60km would take you as far as Southend to the east… or reading to the west So for Isreal to say to the people of Lebanon “off you pop!”…. I don’t think that is reasonable This the same Isreal that has not only been bombing Lebanon in the last few days, but also Syria and Yemen, This the same Israel that flouted every single diplomatic convention by bombing an embassy in a different country This is the same Israel who are not listening to any one in the west when it comes to proposed ceasefire agreements… but then wants western protection after they have been the ones blowing 3 different countries to shit with bombs Israel has been agitating for this for a long while.. seeing how much can be poked… Since it looks as if the majority of the Iranian targets last night were military types installations .. I don’t actually have an issue, ironically it looks like Iran took more care over targeting than Isreal have done " Spot on. | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
Mrs x
But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago.
The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now.
If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you.
I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.
Mrs x
Always the victims Who, the Jews? What gave you that idea? Maybe the persecution they have suffered for thousands of years?
Mrs x"Yes the persecution they weaponise to tyrranise and torment . Of all the people who should understand the folly of the aforesaid it the jews. | |||
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" There are reports in the Israeli media that the plan is to occupy south Lebanon. Call it a security buffer zone. So basically invading the sovereign territory of another nation….. I mean.. if they really want to create a “buffer zone” they could always move back from their own border What Isreal are really trying to do is goad Iran into firing “something”… which Isreal will then use as cover to blow up Iranian military and nuclear facilities I do find it interesting yesterday that instead of saying to the Iranian people that our quarrel is not with you.. but with the government! But instead warned them all they are targets of they get in the way hmmmm so are you for Iran or Isreal _abio ? And all country’s at war try to goad there opponent into doing something stupid the art of war comes to mind Am I for Iran or Israel…. Me… I am for diplomacy! People make it sound like the Isreal proposed security buffer is a little area.. it’s the bit between the current border and the lethani river… That is the best part in points of 60km If you were in central London.. and I said let’s create a buffer zone… 60km would take you as far as Southend to the east… or reading to the west So for Isreal to say to the people of Lebanon “off you pop!”…. I don’t think that is reasonable This the same Isreal that has not only been bombing Lebanon in the last few days, but also Syria and Yemen, This the same Israel that flouted every single diplomatic convention by bombing an embassy in a different country This is the same Israel who are not listening to any one in the west when it comes to proposed ceasefire agreements… but then wants western protection after they have been the ones blowing 3 different countries to shit with bombs Israel has been agitating for this for a long while.. seeing how much can be poked… Since it looks as if the majority of the Iranian targets last night were military types installations .. I don’t actually have an issue, ironically it looks like Iran took more care over targeting than Isreal have done Spot on." In an interview with a Lebanese professor, on sky news the day after Israel was attacked, he accused the west of supporting a racist regime, and stated the targets were military and away from civilian population. Israel still insists on killing women and children. | |||
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"This speech regarding the 57 Arab/Muslim States guaranteeing 'protection' for Israel was part of a speech on the 27th September 2024. The Jordainian Foreign Minister said "In a recent press conference on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi insisted that Arab and Muslim countries will guarantee Israel’s security if Jerusalem agrees to allow the establishment of a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 lines, while blasting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s refusal to do so. “The Israeli prime minister came here today and said that Israel is surrounded by those who want to destroy it,” Safadi said at a Friday press conference shortly after Netanyahu finished his speech at the UN General Assembly. “We’re here — members of the Muslim-Arab committee, mandated by 57 Arab and Muslim countries — and I can tell you very unequivocally, all of us are willing to guarantee the security of Israel in the context of Israel ending the occupation and allowing for the emergence of a Palestinian state,” Safadi passionately argued." You can see a clip here: https://www.tiktok.com/@middleeasteye/video/7420762969056873761 Hope that helps, Mrs x In your original post you wrote 57 Arab countries, not Arab and Muslim. In reply to me questioning the figure of 57 Arab countries, you now say the Jordanian Foreign Minister said 57 Arab and Muslim countries. I googled how many Muslim countries in the world. It came up with 49. But it includes countries where a significant minority practices Islam like Russia and China. So I wouldn't classify them as Muslim countries as such. Considering all the Arab countries are Muslim, I would say the total number of countries with a majority Arab and Muslim population is less than 49. Am surprised you don't think politicians claims should be fact checked. " In my first post about this I did say Arab countries, missing out Muslim. However when you queried this you said there was only 22. I then replied that the Jordainian Foreign Minister stated he had a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries. Now this is not my opinion, these are not my words. I then posted a quote from the Times of Israel, with the speech and to make things even easier a posted a link to one of the many clips online, this one being on Tiktok. Now you seem to have read what I've written and watched what I posted because you've responded to it. This means you've probably read what my opinions of it are. I do not believe what this man said and I touched upon the reasons why. So now for your latest post. I'd have thought you'd ask me why I felt like this, or maybe I was wrong or even right to feel like this, something that would further the debate on this matter. However you chose to pull me up on the numbers quoted, not by me I should add, by the Jordainian Foreign Minister. This is based on your calculations that there isn't 57 Arab and Muslim nations on earth. You say after your research there's probably less than 49 Arab and Muslim countries. This is quite strange given your previous figure of 22 you said you had found upon researching this, a figure which is obly 27 out from the figure you are quoting now. You go on to say you think I should fact check things that politicians say. I find this strange as I'd already stated that I do not believe what this man is saying, so why fact check it. I am only posting what he said as an illustration of 'promises' made by one group that I do not believe they can keep. I'd only fact check something if I was using it to support my argument but in this case it's the exact opposite and something you appear to have missed entirely. It looks like rather than engage with me in a discussion on this matter you chose to try to belittle me, using semantics and the omission of one word from my initial post on this matter. It feels a bit personal and not objective at all if I'm being honest. Now I'm not saying anything about your researching skills or fact checking, even though you now seem to believe there is more than 100% more nations of this kind than you originally posted.So I'm going to post something that may help you with your research and fact checking. I think that the countries that this Jordianian minister is referring to are part of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation. I know it says Islamic and not Muslim but I'm hoping you can overlook this this time. So from a quick look into this, the numbers seem to add up. I've not spoken to the Jordainian Minister directly but this seems to be a good contender for those states he said he had a mandate from and that could guarantee Israel protection, even though I don't believe it. I'm also taking a bit of a leap of faith here in not contacting these individual states to see if they qualify or believe themselves to be a part of this group. Feel free to follow this up yourself if you don't agree with what I'm about to post. The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation was founded in 1969 and has 57 member states. "The OIC is the collective voice of the Muslim world to ensure and safeguard their interest on economic socio and political areas. The OIC has Institutions, which implement its programmes. Its Headquarters is in Jeddah, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia." https://www.sesric.org/about-oic Hope this helps with your research on the matter, remember I only quoted what someone else said, I gave links to show this but I never said that I believed it and I'd only fact check it to make my argument stronger but I chose not to because it's self evident what I was saying about these empty promises. Mrs x | |||
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"This speech regarding the 57 Arab/Muslim States guaranteeing 'protection' for Israel was part of a speech on the 27th September 2024. The Jordainian Foreign Minister said "In a recent press conference on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi insisted that Arab and Muslim countries will guarantee Israel’s security if Jerusalem agrees to allow the establishment of a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 lines, while blasting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s refusal to do so. “The Israeli prime minister came here today and said that Israel is surrounded by those who want to destroy it,” Safadi said at a Friday press conference shortly after Netanyahu finished his speech at the UN General Assembly. “We’re here — members of the Muslim-Arab committee, mandated by 57 Arab and Muslim countries — and I can tell you very unequivocally, all of us are willing to guarantee the security of Israel in the context of Israel ending the occupation and allowing for the emergence of a Palestinian state,” Safadi passionately argued." You can see a clip here: https://www.tiktok.com/@middleeasteye/video/7420762969056873761 Hope that helps, Mrs x In your original post you wrote 57 Arab countries, not Arab and Muslim. In reply to me questioning the figure of 57 Arab countries, you now say the Jordanian Foreign Minister said 57 Arab and Muslim countries. I googled how many Muslim countries in the world. It came up with 49. But it includes countries where a significant minority practices Islam like Russia and China. So I wouldn't classify them as Muslim countries as such. Considering all the Arab countries are Muslim, I would say the total number of countries with a majority Arab and Muslim population is less than 49. Am surprised you don't think politicians claims should be fact checked. The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) (formerly Organisation of the Islamic Conference) is the second largest intergovernmental organization after the United Nations. It has a membership of 57 states spread over four continents.. And they state they will all protect Israel, if Israel will agree to a two state solution." There are over 60 recognised Islamic militant terrorist groups in the world, and all of these 57 states have at least one, all ready and willing to overthrow the current leaders and make the state sharia ruled. You can find a detailed list on the CIA website. I very much doubt their current, and future abilities to "protect Israel". | |||
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"This speech regarding the 57 Arab/Muslim States guaranteeing 'protection' for Israel was part of a speech on the 27th September 2024. The Jordainian Foreign Minister said "In a recent press conference on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi insisted that Arab and Muslim countries will guarantee Israel’s security if Jerusalem agrees to allow the establishment of a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 lines, while blasting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s refusal to do so. “The Israeli prime minister came here today and said that Israel is surrounded by those who want to destroy it,” Safadi said at a Friday press conference shortly after Netanyahu finished his speech at the UN General Assembly. “We’re here — members of the Muslim-Arab committee, mandated by 57 Arab and Muslim countries — and I can tell you very unequivocally, all of us are willing to guarantee the security of Israel in the context of Israel ending the occupation and allowing for the emergence of a Palestinian state,” Safadi passionately argued." You can see a clip here: https://www.tiktok.com/@middleeasteye/video/7420762969056873761 Hope that helps, Mrs x In your original post you wrote 57 Arab countries, not Arab and Muslim. In reply to me questioning the figure of 57 Arab countries, you now say the Jordanian Foreign Minister said 57 Arab and Muslim countries. I googled how many Muslim countries in the world. It came up with 49. But it includes countries where a significant minority practices Islam like Russia and China. So I wouldn't classify them as Muslim countries as such. Considering all the Arab countries are Muslim, I would say the total number of countries with a majority Arab and Muslim population is less than 49. Am surprised you don't think politicians claims should be fact checked. The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) (formerly Organisation of the Islamic Conference) is the second largest intergovernmental organization after the United Nations. It has a membership of 57 states spread over four continents.. And they state they will all protect Israel, if Israel will agree to a two state solution. There are over 60 recognised Islamic militant terrorist groups in the world, and all of these 57 states have at least one, all ready and willing to overthrow the current leaders and make the state sharia ruled. You can find a detailed list on the CIA website. I very much doubt their current, and future abilities to "protect Israel"." He further asks what will Israel do when they have achieved their goals in Lebanon as they are not looking for peace. So what would Israel do will they seek peace after Lebanon. | |||
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"This speech regarding the 57 Arab/Muslim States guaranteeing 'protection' for Israel was part of a speech on the 27th September 2024. The Jordainian Foreign Minister said "In a recent press conference on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi insisted that Arab and Muslim countries will guarantee Israel’s security if Jerusalem agrees to allow the establishment of a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 lines, while blasting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s refusal to do so. “The Israeli prime minister came here today and said that Israel is surrounded by those who want to destroy it,” Safadi said at a Friday press conference shortly after Netanyahu finished his speech at the UN General Assembly. “We’re here — members of the Muslim-Arab committee, mandated by 57 Arab and Muslim countries — and I can tell you very unequivocally, all of us are willing to guarantee the security of Israel in the context of Israel ending the occupation and allowing for the emergence of a Palestinian state,” Safadi passionately argued." You can see a clip here: https://www.tiktok.com/@middleeasteye/video/7420762969056873761 Hope that helps, Mrs x In your original post you wrote 57 Arab countries, not Arab and Muslim. In reply to me questioning the figure of 57 Arab countries, you now say the Jordanian Foreign Minister said 57 Arab and Muslim countries. I googled how many Muslim countries in the world. It came up with 49. But it includes countries where a significant minority practices Islam like Russia and China. So I wouldn't classify them as Muslim countries as such. Considering all the Arab countries are Muslim, I would say the total number of countries with a majority Arab and Muslim population is less than 49. Am surprised you don't think politicians claims should be fact checked. In my first post about this I did say Arab countries, missing out Muslim. However when you queried this you said there was only 22. I then replied that the Jordainian Foreign Minister stated he had a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries. Now this is not my opinion, these are not my words. I then posted a quote from the Times of Israel, with the speech and to make things even easier a posted a link to one of the many clips online, this one being on Tiktok. Now you seem to have read what I've written and watched what I posted because you've responded to it. This means you've probably read what my opinions of it are. I do not believe what this man said and I touched upon the reasons why. So now for your latest post. I'd have thought you'd ask me why I felt like this, or maybe I was wrong or even right to feel like this, something that would further the debate on this matter. However you chose to pull me up on the numbers quoted, not by me I should add, by the Jordainian Foreign Minister. This is based on your calculations that there isn't 57 Arab and Muslim nations on earth. You say after your research there's probably less than 49 Arab and Muslim countries. This is quite strange given your previous figure of 22 you said you had found upon researching this, a figure which is obly 27 out from the figure you are quoting now. You go on to say you think I should fact check things that politicians say. I find this strange as I'd already stated that I do not believe what this man is saying, so why fact check it. I am only posting what he said as an illustration of 'promises' made by one group that I do not believe they can keep. I'd only fact check something if I was using it to support my argument but in this case it's the exact opposite and something you appear to have missed entirely. It looks like rather than engage with me in a discussion on this matter you chose to try to belittle me, using semantics and the omission of one word from my initial post on this matter. It feels a bit personal and not objective at all if I'm being honest. Now I'm not saying anything about your researching skills or fact checking, even though you now seem to believe there is more than 100% more nations of this kind than you originally posted.So I'm going to post something that may help you with your research and fact checking. I think that the countries that this Jordianian minister is referring to are part of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation. I know it says Islamic and not Muslim but I'm hoping you can overlook this this time. So from a quick look into this, the numbers seem to add up. I've not spoken to the Jordainian Minister directly but this seems to be a good contender for those states he said he had a mandate from and that could guarantee Israel protection, even though I don't believe it. I'm also taking a bit of a leap of faith here in not contacting these individual states to see if they qualify or believe themselves to be a part of this group. Feel free to follow this up yourself if you don't agree with what I'm about to post. The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation was founded in 1969 and has 57 member states. "The OIC is the collective voice of the Muslim world to ensure and safeguard their interest on economic socio and political areas. The OIC has Institutions, which implement its programmes. Its Headquarters is in Jeddah, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia." https://www.sesric.org/about-oic Hope this helps with your research on the matter, remember I only quoted what someone else said, I gave links to show this but I never said that I believed it and I'd only fact check it to make my argument stronger but I chose not to because it's self evident what I was saying about these empty promises. Mrs x" I read the first 2 paragraphs and started getting a sore head. Sorry you definitely have more time to debate the Israel cause than anybody else, so for that reason am out.. | |||
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"When did the Arabs change from freedom fighters fighting the Ottoman occupation, who Britain and France happily armed and helped to being terrorists..?When they weren't armies from sovereign states, that killed ,using terror tactics in the name of ideology and when they were recognised and identified as terrorists. I suspect it was around this time. Mrs x Now if you can translate to layman's English. They became terrorists when they act like terrorists and committed acts of terror. Mrs x Am sure the Ottomans felt they were being terrorised.OK pointless debating this with you as you obviously believe that Hamas and Hezbillah are not terrorists, even though the international communities have identified them as such. Mrs x International community has also called Benji a war criminal. But I guess you don't agree with that.. You not reading what I've written. I do not necessarily agree with Israel tactics.
But have noticed you lack of condemnation of these terrorist groups. Do you think another state , in this case Iran, is OK to attack Istael because they have an objective to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Is that ok?
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But you never read what I wrote. Why were the Arabs not called terrorists when they attacked Ottoman occupiers and were happily assisted and given arms. It's not like they drove put the Ottomans peacefully. You know that the Ottomans were defeated as a result of WW1. This was over 100 years ago.
The terror groups were are talking about are proxies of Iran, funded to commit acts of terror. This is not me saying this. Just look at the news right now and they are described in similar terms by all the commentators on these programmes right now.
If you don't agree with the experts that's up to you. I can look up the dates these terrorist organisations came into existence but so can you.
I'm not going to because I'll just accept the experts opinions and they all say they are terrorists, funded by Iran to wipe Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.
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Always the victims Who, the Jews? What gave you that idea? Maybe the persecution they have suffered for thousands of years?
Mrs xYes the persecution they weaponise to tyrranise and torment . Of all the people who should understand the folly of the aforesaid it the jews. "So do you feel the same way about other persecuted people's or is this just reserved for the Jews? Jews are persecuted right now but you think it's OK because it gives them an excuse for 'tyranny and torment'. Strange, very strange, Mrs x | |||
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"This speech regarding the 57 Arab/Muslim States guaranteeing 'protection' for Israel was part of a speech on the 27th September 2024. The Jordainian Foreign Minister said "In a recent press conference on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi insisted that Arab and Muslim countries will guarantee Israel’s security if Jerusalem agrees to allow the establishment of a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 lines, while blasting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s refusal to do so. “The Israeli prime minister came here today and said that Israel is surrounded by those who want to destroy it,” Safadi said at a Friday press conference shortly after Netanyahu finished his speech at the UN General Assembly. “We’re here — members of the Muslim-Arab committee, mandated by 57 Arab and Muslim countries — and I can tell you very unequivocally, all of us are willing to guarantee the security of Israel in the context of Israel ending the occupation and allowing for the emergence of a Palestinian state,” Safadi passionately argued." You can see a clip here: https://www.tiktok.com/@middleeasteye/video/7420762969056873761 Hope that helps, Mrs x In your original post you wrote 57 Arab countries, not Arab and Muslim. In reply to me questioning the figure of 57 Arab countries, you now say the Jordanian Foreign Minister said 57 Arab and Muslim countries. I googled how many Muslim countries in the world. It came up with 49. But it includes countries where a significant minority practices Islam like Russia and China. So I wouldn't classify them as Muslim countries as such. Considering all the Arab countries are Muslim, I would say the total number of countries with a majority Arab and Muslim population is less than 49. Am surprised you don't think politicians claims should be fact checked. In my first post about this I did say Arab countries, missing out Muslim. However when you queried this you said there was only 22. I then replied that the Jordainian Foreign Minister stated he had a mandate from 57 Arab and Muslim countries. Now this is not my opinion, these are not my words. I then posted a quote from the Times of Israel, with the speech and to make things even easier a posted a link to one of the many clips online, this one being on Tiktok. Now you seem to have read what I've written and watched what I posted because you've responded to it. This means you've probably read what my opinions of it are. I do not believe what this man said and I touched upon the reasons why. So now for your latest post. I'd have thought you'd ask me why I felt like this, or maybe I was wrong or even right to feel like this, something that would further the debate on this matter. However you chose to pull me up on the numbers quoted, not by me I should add, by the Jordainian Foreign Minister. This is based on your calculations that there isn't 57 Arab and Muslim nations on earth. You say after your research there's probably less than 49 Arab and Muslim countries. This is quite strange given your previous figure of 22 you said you had found upon researching this, a figure which is obly 27 out from the figure you are quoting now. You go on to say you think I should fact check things that politicians say. I find this strange as I'd already stated that I do not believe what this man is saying, so why fact check it. I am only posting what he said as an illustration of 'promises' made by one group that I do not believe they can keep. I'd only fact check something if I was using it to support my argument but in this case it's the exact opposite and something you appear to have missed entirely. It looks like rather than engage with me in a discussion on this matter you chose to try to belittle me, using semantics and the omission of one word from my initial post on this matter. It feels a bit personal and not objective at all if I'm being honest. Now I'm not saying anything about your researching skills or fact checking, even though you now seem to believe there is more than 100% more nations of this kind than you originally posted.So I'm going to post something that may help you with your research and fact checking. I think that the countries that this Jordianian minister is referring to are part of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation. I know it says Islamic and not Muslim but I'm hoping you can overlook this this time. So from a quick look into this, the numbers seem to add up. I've not spoken to the Jordainian Minister directly but this seems to be a good contender for those states he said he had a mandate from and that could guarantee Israel protection, even though I don't believe it. I'm also taking a bit of a leap of faith here in not contacting these individual states to see if they qualify or believe themselves to be a part of this group. Feel free to follow this up yourself if you don't agree with what I'm about to post. The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation was founded in 1969 and has 57 member states. "The OIC is the collective voice of the Muslim world to ensure and safeguard their interest on economic socio and political areas. The OIC has Institutions, which implement its programmes. Its Headquarters is in Jeddah, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia." https://www.sesric.org/about-oic Hope this helps with your research on the matter, remember I only quoted what someone else said, I gave links to show this but I never said that I believed it and I'd only fact check it to make my argument stronger but I chose not to because it's self evident what I was saying about these empty promises. Mrs x I read the first 2 paragraphs and started getting a sore head. Sorry you definitely have more time to debate the Israel cause than anybody else, so for that reason am out.." 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" There are over 60 recognised Islamic militant terrorist groups in the world, and all of these 57 states have at least one, all ready and willing to overthrow the current leaders and make the state sharia ruled. You can find a detailed list on the CIA website. I very much doubt their current, and future abilities to "protect Israel"." Fondapol records 48,035 Islamic terror attsvks globally between 1979-2021. Resulting in 210,138 deaths. 89.5% of the attacks were in Muslim countries and the victims Muslims in the same proportion For Israel their only option is to smash the Islamic axis of resistance as best they can. | |||
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"This speech regarding the 57 Arab/Muslim States guaranteeing 'protection' for Israel was part of a speech on the 27th September 2024. The Jordainian Foreign Minister said "In a recent press conference on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi insisted that Arab and Muslim countries will guarantee Israel’s security if Jerusalem agrees to allow the establishment of a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 lines, while blasting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s refusal to do so. “The Israeli prime minister came here today and said that Israel is surrounded by those who want to destroy it,” Safadi said at a Friday press conference shortly after Netanyahu finished his speech at the UN General Assembly. “We’re here — members of the Muslim-Arab committee, mandated by 57 Arab and Muslim countries — and I can tell you very unequivocally, all of us are willing to guarantee the security of Israel in the context of Israel ending the occupation and allowing for the emergence of a Palestinian state,” Safadi passionately argued." You can see a clip here: https://www.tiktok.com/@middleeasteye/video/7420762969056873761 Hope that helps, Mrs x In your original post you wrote 57 Arab countries, not Arab and Muslim. In reply to me questioning the figure of 57 Arab countries, you now say the Jordanian Foreign Minister said 57 Arab and Muslim countries. I googled how many Muslim countries in the world. It came up with 49. But it includes countries where a significant minority practices Islam like Russia and China. So I wouldn't classify them as Muslim countries as such. Considering all the Arab countries are Muslim, I would say the total number of countries with a majority Arab and Muslim population is less than 49. Am surprised you don't think politicians claims should be fact checked. The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) (formerly Organisation of the Islamic Conference) is the second largest intergovernmental organization after the United Nations. It has a membership of 57 states spread over four continents.. And they state they will all protect Israel, if Israel will agree to a two state solution. There are over 60 recognised Islamic militant terrorist groups in the world, and all of these 57 states have at least one, all ready and willing to overthrow the current leaders and make the state sharia ruled. You can find a detailed list on the CIA website. I very much doubt their current, and future abilities to "protect Israel"." Well said, Mrs x | |||
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" There are over 60 recognised Islamic militant terrorist groups in the world, and all of these 57 states have at least one, all ready and willing to overthrow the current leaders and make the state sharia ruled. You can find a detailed list on the CIA website. I very much doubt their current, and future abilities to "protect Israel". Fondapol records 48,035 Islamic terror attsvks globally between 1979-2021. Resulting in 210,138 deaths. 89.5% of the attacks were in Muslim countries and the victims Muslims in the same proportion For Israel their only option is to smash the Islamic axis of resistance as best they can. "  Mrs x | |||
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" There are over 60 recognised Islamic militant terrorist groups in the world, and all of these 57 states have at least one, all ready and willing to overthrow the current leaders and make the state sharia ruled. You can find a detailed list on the CIA website. I very much doubt their current, and future abilities to "protect Israel". Fondapol records 48,035 Islamic terror attsvks globally between 1979-2021. Resulting in 210,138 deaths. 89.5% of the attacks were in Muslim countries and the victims Muslims in the same proportion For Israel their only option is to smash the Islamic axis of resistance as best they can. Mrs x"I have asked this a few times but no-one replied do you support Israel illegally expanding into palistinian territory? If so then is it worth dragging everyone including the UK into yet another needless war in the middle East? | |||
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"Just why are the 1.9 billion Muslims in the world so worried about 15 million Jews? Why does the 90 million Iranians want to eliminate the 5 million Jews in Israel. Religious difference is a wonderful force for peace. " ------------------------- I'm not sure 1.9 billion Muslims are worried about Jewish folks. | |||
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"Just why are the 1.9 billion Muslims in the world so worried about 15 million Jews? Why does the 90 million Iranians want to eliminate the 5 million Jews in Israel. Religious difference is a wonderful force for peace. " When the state of Israel was created lots of palistinisns were exiled or fled to the like of Gaza The palistinisns also keep having more and more land taken by Israeli settlers which has annoyed them a lot Especially when Israel ignores many UN resolutions against its actions and breaking international law such as 2000 pound bombs that are against the Geneva convention and many more illegal acts The Likud party wanted to wipe out palestine and to have a greater Israel where palisitinians are eliminated / exterminated so hesbolah and hamas were formed to fight back | |||
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"Just why are the 1.9 billion Muslims in the world so worried about 15 million Jews? Why does the 90 million Iranians want to eliminate the 5 million Jews in Israel. Religious difference is a wonderful force for peace. " When the Muslims have killed the Jews then they will go for the idolaters, infidels and disbelievers It is Allahs wish. | |||
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" There are over 60 recognised Islamic militant terrorist groups in the world, and all of these 57 states have at least one, all ready and willing to overthrow the current leaders and make the state sharia ruled. You can find a detailed list on the CIA website. I very much doubt their current, and future abilities to "protect Israel". Fondapol records 48,035 Islamic terror attsvks globally between 1979-2021. Resulting in 210,138 deaths. 89.5% of the attacks were in Muslim countries and the victims Muslims in the same proportion For Israel their only option is to smash the Islamic axis of resistance as best they can. Mrs x
I have asked this a few times but no-one replied do you support Israel illegally expanding into palistinian territory?
If so then is it worth dragging everyone including the UK into yet another needless war in the middle East?"If you are talking about the West Bank I'm not in favour of it but right now that's not the real issue for dragging anyone into a war. Israel isn't doing that, it's defending itself from a terrorist group. Mrs x | |||
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"Just why are the 1.9 billion Muslims in the world so worried about 15 million Jews? Why does the 90 million Iranians want to eliminate the 5 million Jews in Israel. Religious difference is a wonderful force for peace. When the state of Israel was created lots of palistinisns were exiled or fled to the like of Gaza The palistinisns also keep having more and more land taken by Israeli settlers which has annoyed them a lot Especially when Israel ignores many UN resolutions against its actions and breaking international law such as 2000 pound bombs that are against the Geneva convention and many more illegal acts The Likud party wanted to wipe out palestine and to have a greater Israel where palisitinians are eliminated / exterminated so hesbolah and hamas were formed to fight back " You honestly believe that? I suppose you are basing that on Likud charter of 1977, 'from the river to the shore' statements, is that what you are referencing? Go look at it and show me where it states it wants to eliminate or exterminate Palestinians. In fact it doesn't even mention harming Palestinians, unlike the Hamas charter which wants to kill all the Jews. I've answered your question, hopefully you will answer mine. If Israel wants to exterminate the Palestinians, why does it have 2 million of them living onside Israel? Why does it grant citizenship for these Palestinians? Also if it was all about land grabbing, why did Istael give back the Sinai Penninsula after taking it from Egypt after the war in 1967? Why did Israel physically drag its own citizens out of Gaza in 2005, leaving Gaza to its own devices if it wanted to grab more land? Finally is it just Israel you consider to have broken these laws you keep mentioning or are Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, Fatah, PLO etc all guilty of similar things? Can you please answer these questions? Mrs x | |||
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" Israel isn't doing that, it's defending itself from a terrorist group. " Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called on Muslims on Saturday “to stand by the people of Lebanon and the proud Hezbollah with whatever means they have and assist them in confronting the ... wicked regime (of Israel).” These headchopping Islamic savages want to annihilate all of Isreal. | |||
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" Israel isn't doing that, it's defending itself from a terrorist group. Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called on Muslims on Saturday “to stand by the people of Lebanon and the proud Hezbollah with whatever means they have and assist them in confronting the ... wicked regime (of Israel).” These headchopping Islamic savages want to annihilate all of Isreal. " Not how I'd describe it but there is some truth in it, Mrs x | |||
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" Israel isn't doing that, it's defending itself from a terrorist group. Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called on Muslims on Saturday “to stand by the people of Lebanon and the proud Hezbollah with whatever means they have and assist them in confronting the ... wicked regime (of Israel).” These headchopping Islamic savages want to annihilate all of Isreal. " Indeed, and to all the hand-wringers, what are Israel supposed to do? They are surrounded by foes ideologically pledged to their elimination. This talk of a 'two-state' solution is for the birds. It would just legitimize Gaza lobbing missiles into Israel every day of the week, but with no rights of retaliation. Whilst there exist toxic creeds based on hate, there is no hope for the Middle East. It's just about containment. | |||
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" Israel isn't doing that, it's defending itself from a terrorist group. Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called on Muslims on Saturday “to stand by the people of Lebanon and the proud Hezbollah with whatever means they have and assist them in confronting the ... wicked regime (of Israel).” These headchopping Islamic savages want to annihilate all of Isreal. " No they want to annihilate anyone who does not want sharia law oh and people who don’t want to wear tea cosies on their heads and shout Alu Akbar 🤣 | |||
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" Israel isn't doing that, it's defending itself from a terrorist group. Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called on Muslims on Saturday “to stand by the people of Lebanon and the proud Hezbollah with whatever means they have and assist them in confronting the ... wicked regime (of Israel).” These headchopping Islamic savages want to annihilate all of Isreal. Indeed, and to all the hand-wringers, what are Israel supposed to do? They are surrounded by foes ideologically pledged to their elimination. This talk of a 'two-state' solution is for the birds. It would just legitimize Gaza lobbing missiles into Israel every day of the week, but with no rights of retaliation. Whilst there exist toxic creeds based on hate, there is no hope for the Middle East. It's just about containment. " 15% | |||
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"The then PLO DID offer a comprehensive peace some decades ago in exchange for the creation of a Palestinian state. For this, read: they agreed to give up land that there had been a Palestinian majority on for over a thousand years and well before Jewish migrants arrived in boats from Europe and other parts of the world. But Israel wanted more, and set up a 'road map' with so many ifs and buts, that it would never lead to a Palestinian state in practice. And that was the plan by the Israelis. All supported by the USA of course. And now there are 800,000 Jewish Zionist illegals in the West Bank and growing. They terrorise and harass Palestinians on a daily basis. And he Israeli plan is to ghettoise Palwsrinians and use a policy of divide and rule. Hence the many checkpoints splitting up the West Bank into little bantuatans. And the divide and rule between the docile Palestinian Authority and militant Hamas in Gaza. The massive instability this sectarian Jewish supremacy causes is directly what feeds dead end groups like Hamas, who prey on people's despair and hopelessness. Before you condemn Hamas, condemn Israel, whose creation has been such a trauma for the indigenous inhabitants of Palestine. And if you really believe that if your ancestors having lived in a place 2000 years ago (as a majority) entitles you to push out another group, remember that the Jews are not indigenous to Israel. Father Abraham came from an area near the Iraq Kuwaiti border then settled in an area near the southern Turkish border, before going to Canaan/Israel. And the Palestinians are mainly descendants of the ancient Canaanites who were there first (in fact, some are Jews who converted mainly to christianity or Islam in later centuries) as well as some admixture with the later invading Peninsular Arabs. Note that the term "Arab" is cultural not racial - many different racial groups became culturally Arabised through adoption of Arabic language and other Arab cultural traits. So the history of the Palestinians (the name we call them is irrelevant - I'm aware the word "Palestinian" is a latter day creation) is actually in many cases, much longer than that of the Jews in The Holy Land" 85% | |||
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"The then PLO DID offer a comprehensive peace some decades ago in exchange for the creation of a Palestinian state. For this, read: they agreed to give up land that there had been a Palestinian majority on for over a thousand years and well before Jewish migrants arrived in boats from Europe and other parts of the world. But Israel wanted more, and set up a 'road map' with so many ifs and buts, that it would never lead to a Palestinian state in practice. And that was the plan by the Israelis. All supported by the USA of course. And now there are 800,000 Jewish Zionist illegals in the West Bank and growing. They terrorise and harass Palestinians on a daily basis. And he Israeli plan is to ghettoise Palwsrinians and use a policy of divide and rule. Hence the many checkpoints splitting up the West Bank into little bantuatans. And the divide and rule between the docile Palestinian Authority and militant Hamas in Gaza. The massive instability this sectarian Jewish supremacy causes is directly what feeds dead end groups like Hamas, who prey on people's despair and hopelessness. Before you condemn Hamas, condemn Israel, whose creation has been such a trauma for the indigenous inhabitants of Palestine. And if you really believe that if your ancestors having lived in a place 2000 years ago (as a majority) entitles you to push out another group, remember that the Jews are not indigenous to Israel. Father Abraham came from an area near the Iraq Kuwaiti border then settled in an area near the southern Turkish border, before going to Canaan/Israel. And the Palestinians are mainly descendants of the ancient Canaanites who were there first (in fact, some are Jews who converted mainly to christianity or Islam in later centuries) as well as some admixture with the later invading Peninsular Arabs. Note that the term "Arab" is cultural not racial - many different racial groups became culturally Arabised through adoption of Arabic language and other Arab cultural traits. So the history of the Palestinians (the name we call them is irrelevant - I'm aware the word "Palestinian" is a latter day creation) is actually in many cases, much longer than that of the Jews in The Holy Land 85%" What does it matter who was "there first"?. Jews and Muslim Arabs are genetically the same people. They have been ripped apart by the leaders of man made religions that were designed as social control mechanisms. Religions that were created to give power to their unelected leaders. | |||
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"The then PLO DID offer a comprehensive peace some decades ago in exchange for the creation of a Palestinian state. For this, read: they agreed to give up land that there had been a Palestinian majority on for over a thousand years and well before Jewish migrants arrived in boats from Europe and other parts of the world. But Israel wanted more, and set up a 'road map' with so many ifs and buts, that it would never lead to a Palestinian state in practice. And that was the plan by the Israelis. All supported by the USA of course. And now there are 800,000 Jewish Zionist illegals in the West Bank and growing. They terrorise and harass Palestinians on a daily basis. And he Israeli plan is to ghettoise Palwsrinians and use a policy of divide and rule. Hence the many checkpoints splitting up the West Bank into little bantuatans. And the divide and rule between the docile Palestinian Authority and militant Hamas in Gaza. The massive instability this sectarian Jewish supremacy causes is directly what feeds dead end groups like Hamas, who prey on people's despair and hopelessness. Before you condemn Hamas, condemn Israel, whose creation has been such a trauma for the indigenous inhabitants of Palestine. And if you really believe that if your ancestors having lived in a place 2000 years ago (as a majority) entitles you to push out another group, remember that the Jews are not indigenous to Israel. Father Abraham came from an area near the Iraq Kuwaiti border then settled in an area near the southern Turkish border, before going to Canaan/Israel. And the Palestinians are mainly descendants of the ancient Canaanites who were there first (in fact, some are Jews who converted mainly to christianity or Islam in later centuries) as well as some admixture with the later invading Peninsular Arabs. Note that the term "Arab" is cultural not racial - many different racial groups became culturally Arabised through adoption of Arabic language and other Arab cultural traits. So the history of the Palestinians (the name we call them is irrelevant - I'm aware the word "Palestinian" is a latter day creation) is actually in many cases, much longer than that of the Jews in The Holy Land" Think you might not be telling the whole story here. If you are referring to the Oslo Accords and the plan for peace that stems from this then it wasn't due to the PLO. In fact the PLO probably knew nothing about this initially. It was a plan from Yasser Arafat, who conducted these meetings in secret. The Accords were not greeted warmly by the Arab League because they knew nothing about these secret negotiations and had not been consulted by Yasser Arafat before he acted unilaterally and set up secret negotiations without informing the Arab League. Some Arabs said Arafat wasn't even interested in peace but was only doing this to improve his declining popularity within the Islamic community. This backfired and certain groups of Arabs opposed the Oslo Accords and wanted them to fail. This was due in no small part to Yasser Arafat ignoring the 3 No's that the Arab League had agreed to at Khartoum. The Accords also faced opposition from certain Israeli factions and it was no wonder it did not lead to peace. As for your assertion that it's the creation of Israel itself that's the problem, well if that's the case how do you account for the acts of terror committed against Jews prior to the establishment of the country. There are instances of this going back to the late 1800s, in the 1920's, 30's and 40's. You are correct that there were people in the region well before the Jews and that they've collectively become to be know as Caananites. However these Caananites were not made up of one people, or one group of people and themselves were not indigenous to this region. With the Middle Bronze Age, recorded history in the area began. The Semitic Amorites, who penetrated Canaan from the northeast, became the dominant element of the population during this time. Other invaders included the Egyptians and the Hyksos, a group of Asian peoples who seem to have migrated there from north of Palestine. The Hurrians (the Horites of the Old Testament) also came to Canaan from the north. People occupying the area at this time included Egyptians, Mycenaean, Cretan, Hurrian, and Mesopotamian. There is no one people that historians can point to as indigenous to the area. Durong the late Bronze Age, when Egyptians were dominant, this period was also marked by incursions of marauders called Hapiru, or Habiru. This term was apparently applied by the Egyptians to other peoples or social groups who were of foreign origin. Many scholars feel that among the Hapiru were the original Hebrews, of whom the later Israelites were only one branch or confederation. So Jews were possibly here earlier than you are suggesting. As for anyone owning tge land of this region, again that's a fallacy. There was no one kingdom until until Israel and Judah, both Jewish kingdoms. Prior to these kingdoms the areas power rested in city states, so each city ruled itself, with it own ruler. There has never been a kingdom of Palistine, ever. So in regards to the fact that the Jews are not indigenous then neither are the Palestinians. There's no one indigenous people of the region, it's a melting pot of people and cultures from a very wide area and it's this mixture of tribes that form the people known as the Caananitrs and its this mixture the Jews encountered when reaching the promised land during the times of Moses. So in reality the Jews did not fight an indigenous group but tribes from as far away as Asia, Africa, and Europe. As for Palistine being around for longer than the Jewish kingdom of Israel, the first possible reference, and I'm saying possible because it's not a direct quote but an interpretation from an Egyptian text, which was written approximately 200 years after the kingdom of Israel had come into being which mentions an area called Peleset. The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt was in 5th century BCE ancient Greece, when Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistine, 900 years after the Jewish kingdoms were established. So when you say "Palestinian" is a latter day creation) is actually in many cases, much longer than that of the Jews in The Holy Land" , that's not correct. Mrs x | |||
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" There are over 60 recognised Islamic militant terrorist groups in the world, and all of these 57 states have at least one, all ready and willing to overthrow the current leaders and make the state sharia ruled. You can find a detailed list on the CIA website. I very much doubt their current, and future abilities to "protect Israel". Fondapol records 48,035 Islamic terror attsvks globally between 1979-2021. Resulting in 210,138 deaths. 89.5% of the attacks were in Muslim countries and the victims Muslims in the same proportion For Israel their only option is to smash the Islamic axis of resistance as best they can. " Spoken like a true genocidist. | |||
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" There are over 60 recognised Islamic militant terrorist groups in the world, and all of these 57 states have at least one, all ready and willing to overthrow the current leaders and make the state sharia ruled. You can find a detailed list on the CIA website. I very much doubt their current, and future abilities to "protect Israel". Fondapol records 48,035 Islamic terror attsvks globally between 1979-2021. Resulting in 210,138 deaths. 89.5% of the attacks were in Muslim countries and the victims Muslims in the same proportion For Israel their only option is to smash the Islamic axis of resistance as best they can. Spoken like a true genocidist. " Can you commit genocide against a terrorist group? Mrs x | |||
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" There are over 60 recognised Islamic militant terrorist groups in the world, and all of these 57 states have at least one, all ready and willing to overthrow the current leaders and make the state sharia ruled. You can find a detailed list on the CIA website. I very much doubt their current, and future abilities to "protect Israel". Fondapol records 48,035 Islamic terror attsvks globally between 1979-2021. Resulting in 210,138 deaths. 89.5% of the attacks were in Muslim countries and the victims Muslims in the same proportion For Israel their only option is to smash the Islamic axis of resistance as best they can. Spoken like a true genocidist. " Does that make you a terrorist apologist? Mrs x | |||
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" There are over 60 recognised Islamic militant terrorist groups in the world, and all of these 57 states have at least one, all ready and willing to overthrow the current leaders and make the state sharia ruled. You can find a detailed list on the CIA website. I very much doubt their current, and future abilities to "protect Israel". Fondapol records 48,035 Islamic terror attsvks globally between 1979-2021. Resulting in 210,138 deaths. 89.5% of the attacks were in Muslim countries and the victims Muslims in the same proportion For Israel their only option is to smash the Islamic axis of resistance as best they can. Spoken like a true genocidist. Can you commit genocide against a terrorist group? Mrs x" Thats the type of answer which places this poster in the 15% category | |||
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" There are over 60 recognised Islamic militant terrorist groups in the world, and all of these 57 states have at least one, all ready and willing to overthrow the current leaders and make the state sharia ruled. You can find a detailed list on the CIA website. I very much doubt their current, and future abilities to "protect Israel". Fondapol records 48,035 Islamic terror attsvks globally between 1979-2021. Resulting in 210,138 deaths. 89.5% of the attacks were in Muslim countries and the victims Muslims in the same proportion For Israel their only option is to smash the Islamic axis of resistance as best they can. Spoken like a true genocidist. Can you commit genocide against a terrorist group? Mrs x Thats the type of answer which places this poster in the 15% category " Do you answer 15% or 85% for every question haha. So you can commit genocide on a terrorist group then? Mrs x (know you won't answer 100% pmsl) | |||
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"It's sickening that it appears that the US election is more important than imposing strict limits on Israel's behaviour. What they have done in the past year is well beyond the limits of decency, including starving children and their military carnage. Much of this is due to the political careers of Biden, Harris, Trump and Netanyahu being more important to them than preventing atrocities. Sickening. " So it has nothing to do with living through daily terrorist attacks, the actions of the 7th October, terrorist attacks from groups in other countries just because they follow the same beliefs as others. No it's all about the bad Israelis and Americans. Nothing wrong with Islamist terror groups, they are fine, nothing wrong with them. Mrs x | |||
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"It's sickening that it appears that the US election is more important than imposing strict limits on Israel's behaviour. What they have done in the past year is well beyond the limits of decency, including starving children and their military carnage. Much of this is due to the political careers of Biden, Harris, Trump and Netanyahu being more important to them than preventing atrocities. Sickening. " Reuters “Almost three in four Palestinians believe the Oct. 7 attack by Hamas on Israel was correct, and the ensuing Gaza war has lifted support for the Islamist group both there and in the West Bank, a survey from a respected Palestinian polling institute found.” Reap what you sow. | |||
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"It's sickening that it appears that the US election is more important than imposing strict limits on Israel's behaviour. What they have done in the past year is well beyond the limits of decency, including starving children and their military carnage. Much of this is due to the political careers of Biden, Harris, Trump and Netanyahu being more important to them than preventing atrocities. Sickening. So it has nothing to do with living through daily terrorist attacks, the actions of the 7th October, terrorist attacks from groups in other countries just because they follow the same beliefs as others. No it's all about the bad Israelis and Americans. Nothing wrong with Islamist terror groups, they are fine, nothing wrong with them. Mrs x" The Palestinians were cheering in the streets when the Israel’s were being butchered They now deserve what the IDF give them. No sympathy. | |||
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" There are over 60 recognised Islamic militant terrorist groups in the world, and all of these 57 states have at least one, all ready and willing to overthrow the current leaders and make the state sharia ruled. You can find a detailed list on the CIA website. I very much doubt their current, and future abilities to "protect Israel". Fondapol records 48,035 Islamic terror attsvks globally between 1979-2021. Resulting in 210,138 deaths. 89.5% of the attacks were in Muslim countries and the victims Muslims in the same proportion For Israel their only option is to smash the Islamic axis of resistance as best they can. Spoken like a true genocidist. Can you commit genocide against a terrorist group? Mrs x Thats the type of answer which places this poster in the 15% category Do you answer 15% or 85% for every question haha. So you can commit genocide on a terrorist group then? Mrs x (know you won't answer 100% pmsl)" I was right, knew you wouldn't answer not even a 15% or an 85% thus time. Maybe the question was too hard, Mrs x | |||
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