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By *hagTonight OP   Man
17 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

Who else thought that harris won the debate? She came across as professional.

As I see it, this debate was also about how they would be perceived as, trump needed to exhibit discipline and harris to show depth and she certainly did and he missed his, harris outperformed trump, in a poll, harris got 63% and trump 37%. I agree with that.

What is your view about it and does one who win the debate win the election too and why did trump say that he didnt want another debate? I dont think it necessarily means that, but it is a good indication of what the people think of them

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By *immyinreadingMan
17 weeks ago

henley on thames

Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

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By *ronisMan
17 weeks ago

Edinburgh


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up "

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

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By *irldnCouple
17 weeks ago

Brighton


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?"

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

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By *ronisMan
17 weeks ago

Edinburgh


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?"

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

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By *imba NinjaMan
17 weeks ago

Aberdeen


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?"

Sounds more like Trumps closing statement from the debate to me

Fear mongering crap and more misinformation

Good job Ivan 👍

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By *ronisMan
17 weeks ago

Edinburgh


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

Sounds more like Trumps closing statement from the debate to me

Fear mongering crap and more misinformation

Good job Ivan 👍 "

Ivan? What are you wittering on about? I think you're more in the Soviet camp than I am, Vlad. No it's not fear mongering crap, as you so eloquently put it. Do some reading and research. I don't suppose that would help though seeing as you're clearly in the 'socialism is great' camp.

MAGA.

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By *imba NinjaMan
17 weeks ago

Aberdeen


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

Sounds more like Trumps closing statement from the debate to me

Fear mongering crap and more misinformation

Good job Ivan 👍

Ivan? What are you wittering on about? I think you're more in the Soviet camp than I am, Vlad. No it's not fear mongering crap, as you so eloquently put it. Do some reading and research. I don't suppose that would help though seeing as you're clearly in the 'socialism is great' camp.

MAGA. "

Done plenty of reading and research and that's why I say it's fear mongering crap.

You support MAGA you're doing Putin's troll work for free ye silly billy

Well done you 👍

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By *irldnCouple
17 weeks ago

Brighton


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?"

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
17 weeks ago

golden fields


"Who else thought that harris won the debate? She came across as professional.

As I see it, this debate was also about how they would be perceived as, trump needed to exhibit discipline and harris to show depth and she certainly did and he missed his, harris outperformed trump, in a poll, harris got 63% and trump 37%. I agree with that.

What is your view about it and does one who win the debate win the election too and why did trump say that he didnt want another debate? I dont think it necessarily means that, but it is a good indication of what the people think of them "

The scary thing is 37% of people think that rambling about a Facebook rumour of foriegners eating pets was a solid win in the debate.

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By *ou only live onceMan
17 weeks ago

London


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks "

I hope you're patient. I fear you'll be waiting a while.

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By *irldnCouple
17 weeks ago

Brighton


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

I hope you're patient. I fear you'll be waiting a while."

Yeah I know but waiting to be skooled [sic]

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By (user no longer on site)
17 weeks ago

I thought the debate was a shit show tbh.

Trump getting interrupted to be live "fact checked", while Harris wasn't.

The "moderators" trying to force direct answers out of Trump, while allowing Harris to word salad her way through without so much as a follow up asking why she didn't answer.

The format they had with Trump Vs Hilary was a lot better imo. They wont do that again though, they want every advantage to be for the one against Trump.

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By (user no longer on site)
17 weeks ago

Harris gave another interview, this time on her own.

Love this take on it xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSo5pf4vQnI

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By *immyinreadingMan
17 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?"

Some laughable exaggerations there!

No, she is not wanting to bring in soviet policies. If she was, then putin would be supporting her instead of trump!

Trump is the one who is in putin’s pocket. Not because he agrees with his policies but purely because he will suck up to anyone who he thinks will help him into power.

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By *immyinreadingMan
17 weeks ago

henley on thames


"I thought the debate was a shit show tbh.

Trump getting interrupted to be live "fact checked", while Harris wasn't.

The "moderators" trying to force direct answers out of Trump, while allowing Harris to word salad her way through without so much as a follow up asking why she didn't answer.

The format they had with Trump Vs Hilary was a lot better imo. They wont do that again though, they want every advantage to be for the one against Trump."

Harris wasn’t pulled up by the mods because she wasn’t telling outrageous lies. Simple

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By *immyinreadingMan
17 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Who else thought that harris won the debate? She came across as professional.

As I see it, this debate was also about how they would be perceived as, trump needed to exhibit discipline and harris to show depth and she certainly did and he missed his, harris outperformed trump, in a poll, harris got 63% and trump 37%. I agree with that.

What is your view about it and does one who win the debate win the election too and why did trump say that he didnt want another debate? I dont think it necessarily means that, but it is a good indication of what the people think of them

The scary thing is 37% of people think that rambling about a Facebook rumour of foriegners eating pets was a solid win in the debate. "

Most of that 37 per cent would support him regardless of what he said

I lived in the US for 5 years …

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By *immyinreadingMan
17 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?"

I see you swerved the question there. Typical trump technique there, keep repeating an allegation rather than explaining what you mean.

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By *immyinreadingMan
17 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks "

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

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By *ronisMan
17 weeks ago

Edinburgh


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat "

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you.

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By *immyinreadingMan
17 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you."

… swerve …

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By *abioMan
17 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you."

Bit rich coming from the trump side bearing in mind the entire economic policy seems to be “stick a 20% tariff on everything!”

But back to the debate… you say Harris didn’t answer much… I’m still waiting on an answer from trump to his health plan , his view on a national abortion ban, even if he wants Ukraine to win the war!

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By *ronisMan
17 weeks ago

Edinburgh


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you.

… swerve … "

What's wrong, afraid to do your own research or even look?

Feeble.

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By *roadShoulderzMan
17 weeks ago

Petersfield

Another person has decided to take more pot shots at Trump whilst he was taking pot shots at holes.

In the FBI video it can clearly be heard:"Donald duck".

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By *ronisMan
17 weeks ago

Edinburgh


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you.

Bit rich coming from the trump side bearing in mind the entire economic policy seems to be “stick a 20% tariff on everything!”

But back to the debate… you say Harris didn’t answer much… I’m still waiting on an answer from trump to his health plan , his view on a national abortion ban, even if he wants Ukraine to win the war!

"

I didn't say anything about abortion or Ukraine but I'll try this. Trump has said abortion should be decided at state level and I'm pretty sure he wants to end the war. Within 48 hours of him taking office he would phone putin and Zelenskyy and end it.

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By *immyinreadingMan
17 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you.

… swerve …

What's wrong, afraid to do your own research or even look?

Feeble."

No. But you seem unable to explain your own theories, despite several posters asking you what you mean.

… and our definitions of what constitutes “research” may differ.

Go ahead and deflect again though, I’m not really expecting an explanation

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By *immyinreadingMan
17 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Another person has decided to take more pot shots at Trump whilst he was taking pot shots at holes.

In the FBI video it can clearly be heard:"Donald duck"."

He didn’t take pot shots at trump though, did he!

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By *ronisMan
17 weeks ago

Edinburgh


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you.

… swerve …

What's wrong, afraid to do your own research or even look?

Feeble.

No. But you seem unable to explain your own theories, despite several posters asking you what you mean.

… and our definitions of what constitutes “research” may differ.

Go ahead and deflect again though, I’m not really expecting an explanation "

I've giving details of web searches what more do you need? Look it up.

You can look up things, can't you?

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By *irldnCouple
17 weeks ago

Brighton


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you.

… swerve …

What's wrong, afraid to do your own research or even look?

Feeble."

We don’t need to because you already have. So come on, explain how Harris’ economic policies are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan? Last chance to maintain credibility!

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By *immyinreadingMan
17 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you.

Bit rich coming from the trump side bearing in mind the entire economic policy seems to be “stick a 20% tariff on everything!”

But back to the debate… you say Harris didn’t answer much… I’m still waiting on an answer from trump to his health plan , his view on a national abortion ban, even if he wants Ukraine to win the war!

I didn't say anything about abortion or Ukraine but I'll try this. Trump has said abortion should be decided at state level and I'm pretty sure he wants to end the war. Within 48 hours of him taking office he would phone putin and Zelenskyy and end it. "

Yes he has claimed he would end it in 24 hours. But he hasn’t said what outcome he would get them to agree to. Baseless boasting. Meaningless.

As for his views on abortion, they keep shifting to where he thinks the votes are.

How did you become such a bullish trump supporter?

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By *ronisMan
17 weeks ago

Edinburgh


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you.

Bit rich coming from the trump side bearing in mind the entire economic policy seems to be “stick a 20% tariff on everything!”

But back to the debate… you say Harris didn’t answer much… I’m still waiting on an answer from trump to his health plan , his view on a national abortion ban, even if he wants Ukraine to win the war!

I didn't say anything about abortion or Ukraine but I'll try this. Trump has said abortion should be decided at state level and I'm pretty sure he wants to end the war. Within 48 hours of him taking office he would phone putin and Zelenskyy and end it.

Yes he has claimed he would end it in 24 hours. But he hasn’t said what outcome he would get them to agree to. Baseless boasting. Meaningless.

As for his views on abortion, they keep shifting to where he thinks the votes are.

How did you become such a bullish trump supporter? "

In war you have a choice, compromise or annihilation.

Germany fought to the end and look what happened.

It's not restricted to Trump, I loathe socialism.

How did you become such a Harris,Biden ,Obama supporter.

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By *abioMan
17 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you.

Bit rich coming from the trump side bearing in mind the entire economic policy seems to be “stick a 20% tariff on everything!”

But back to the debate… you say Harris didn’t answer much… I’m still waiting on an answer from trump to his health plan , his view on a national abortion ban, even if he wants Ukraine to win the war!

I didn't say anything about abortion or Ukraine but I'll try this. Trump has said abortion should be decided at state level and I'm pretty sure he wants to end the war. Within 48 hours of him taking office he would phone putin and Zelenskyy and end it. "

He was actually asked point blank that if a national abortion ban were to pass his desk would he sign it!

He refused to answer

It was then explained that what his vice president running mate had said

He then said his running mate doesn’t speak for him!

He was actually asked point blank TWICE if he wanted Ukraine to win the war!

He refused to answer….

You might actually want to watch the debate if you are going to actually comment

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By *irldnCouple
17 weeks ago

Brighton


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you.

… swerve …

What's wrong, afraid to do your own research or even look?

Feeble.

We don’t need to because you already have. So come on, explain how Harris’ economic policies are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan? Last chance to maintain credibility! "

LOLZ no credibility then

Shame but also rather embarassing!

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By *immyinreadingMan
17 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you.

Bit rich coming from the trump side bearing in mind the entire economic policy seems to be “stick a 20% tariff on everything!”

But back to the debate… you say Harris didn’t answer much… I’m still waiting on an answer from trump to his health plan , his view on a national abortion ban, even if he wants Ukraine to win the war!

I didn't say anything about abortion or Ukraine but I'll try this. Trump has said abortion should be decided at state level and I'm pretty sure he wants to end the war. Within 48 hours of him taking office he would phone putin and Zelenskyy and end it.

Yes he has claimed he would end it in 24 hours. But he hasn’t said what outcome he would get them to agree to. Baseless boasting. Meaningless.

As for his views on abortion, they keep shifting to where he thinks the votes are.

How did you become such a bullish trump supporter?

In war you have a choice, compromise or annihilation.

Germany fought to the end and look what happened.

It's not restricted to Trump, I loathe socialism.

How did you become such a Harris,Biden ,Obama supporter."

I’m not. Never said I was

Not sure I understand the reference to Germany.

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By *ykmwyldTV/TS
17 weeks ago

Belpre

Yes, of course Harris won the debate. You had a well educated woman debating a poorly educated man who is nothing more than a snake oil salesman. Harris won the debate the moment trump accepted the debate. It couldn't have been more predictable.

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By *hoirCouple
17 weeks ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds


"

If she was, then putin would be supporting her instead of trump!

"

Putin has endorsed Kamala already.

C

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
17 weeks ago

golden fields


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you.

… swerve …

What's wrong, afraid to do your own research or even look?

Feeble."

That's right. People should do their own searching to try to evidence the bizarre point you're trying to make.

Never change Buck!

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By *lasgowbobMan
17 weeks ago

Glasgow


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?"

Did you just copy and paste that?

This crap about inflation is ridiculous. Did you notice that inflation shot up here from the first half of 2020? And pretty much everywhere. Did you also notice that it coincided with the Russian invasion of Ukraine?

And did you notice that inflation has been falling in the US for over a year now?

But sure, let’s believe that Biden became President in Jan 2020, and in just a few months had somehow managed to cause inflation to shoot up

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By *lasgowbobMan
17 weeks ago

Glasgow


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?"

And what soviet economic policies are you referring to exactly?

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By *lasgowbobMan
17 weeks ago

Glasgow


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

Sounds more like Trumps closing statement from the debate to me

Fear mongering crap and more misinformation

Good job Ivan 👍

Ivan? What are you wittering on about? I think you're more in the Soviet camp than I am, Vlad. No it's not fear mongering crap, as you so eloquently put it. Do some reading and research. I don't suppose that would help though seeing as you're clearly in the 'socialism is great' camp.

MAGA. "

So do you think the UK is a bit like the old Soviet Union because of something like the NHS then?

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By *lasgowbobMan
17 weeks ago

Glasgow


"I thought the debate was a shit show tbh.

Trump getting interrupted to be live "fact checked", while Harris wasn't.

The "moderators" trying to force direct answers out of Trump, while allowing Harris to word salad her way through without so much as a follow up asking why she didn't answer.

The format they had with Trump Vs Hilary was a lot better imo. They wont do that again though, they want every advantage to be for the one against Trump."

Yeah, it was so unfair that they fact checked Trump for talking utter shite about babies being murdered after they are born, and about people eating pet cats and dogs

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By *lasgowbobMan
17 weeks ago

Glasgow


"Yes she won the debate. No it won’t have much bearing on the outcome of the election. Trump will just go back to telling wholesale lies, without a moderator being there to pull him up

Unlike Harris telling everyone America is doing great despite the fact she has wrecked California, the dems have increased unemployment, inflation is up,people can't feed them. Then we have tent cities,Democratic states are losing 100s of thousands as the move to republican states,10 million illegals,American children being removed from schools to make way for migrants. Yeah it's all going well. Oh and she wants to bring in Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies.

What could possibly be better?

That sounds a bit like hyperbole to me but I am willing to be corrected. What are these Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies you speak of?

Eh you know, Soviet economic policies. You did study history at skool,right?

I did and I am asking you to demonstrate what policies Harris has that are analogous to Soviet/Venezuelan economic policies. Thanks

He won’t answer. He will serve / repeat

See House Committee on Budget, Kamalanomics. Google it.

If that isn't Soviet nothing will convince you.

Bit rich coming from the trump side bearing in mind the entire economic policy seems to be “stick a 20% tariff on everything!”

But back to the debate… you say Harris didn’t answer much… I’m still waiting on an answer from trump to his health plan , his view on a national abortion ban, even if he wants Ukraine to win the war!

I didn't say anything about abortion or Ukraine but I'll try this. Trump has said abortion should be decided at state level and I'm pretty sure he wants to end the war. Within 48 hours of him taking office he would phone putin and Zelenskyy and end it. "

No. He said in the debate that babies are killed after birth. He would phone Putin and Zelenskyy and end it? Just like that? How exactly?

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
17 weeks ago

Bedford

Not sure Harris was a winner in my book.

She was a bit fluffy and not Presidential. More local councilar than world leader. America needs a business man as President which Trump is.

If Harris wins the work force will get lazier and more obese like they have under Obama and Biden.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
17 weeks ago

golden fields


"Not sure Harris was a winner in my book.

She was a bit fluffy and not Presidential. More local councilar than world leader. America needs a business man as President which Trump is.

If Harris wins the work force will get lazier and more obese like they have under Obama and Biden."

Firstly America is a country, not a business, it should be run for the benefit of the people. Not to make money.

Secondly, Trump is a shit business man, he keeps bankrupting his own businesses.

Apart from that. Yeah.

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By *aughty but nice 11Man
15 weeks ago

Liverpool

Seeing as its not been on mainstream media and probably won't.

The head of the ICE (Immigration and customs enforcement).

Has come out and said yesterday in a report that under the biden/kamala administration over 435,000 undocumented migrants with criminal convictions including 15,000 convicted of sexual assaults with a further 4,200 pending for sex crimes, 13,000 convicted murderers with a further 1,800 pending have all been placed in various states around the US.

If this happened on trumps watch it would be all over the news non stop.

This could be the nail in coffin for kamalas campaign.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
15 weeks ago

Gilfach

We won't see it in the mainstream media because it's clearly not true.

If they are undocumented, how can the head of ICE know that they are all criminals?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
15 weeks ago

golden fields


"We won't see it in the mainstream media because it's clearly not true.

If they are undocumented, how can the head of ICE know that they are all criminals?"

This comes from a guy called Scott Carson who has an investment firm called "we close notes" that has a YouTube channel with this kind of misinformation pumped out.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
15 weeks ago

Gilfach


"We won't see it in the mainstream media because it's clearly not true.

If they are undocumented, how can the head of ICE know that they are all criminals?

This comes from a guy called Scott Carson who has an investment firm called "we close notes" that has a YouTube channel with this kind of misinformation pumped out."

Thanks for the info. Scott Carson seems to be a 'colourful' individual.

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By *aughty but nice 11Man
15 weeks ago

Liverpool


"We won't see it in the mainstream media because it's clearly not true.

If they are undocumented, how can the head of ICE know that they are all criminals?

This comes from a guy called Scott Carson who has an investment firm called "we close notes" that has a YouTube channel with this kind of misinformation pumped out. "

I'm not sure who this scot Wilson person is but I read this information on a new York news site.

This report came from the deputy director of the ICE

Patrick Lechleitner.

If you goodle his name then check the results there is a site with a .gov address that breaks down the report and all the numbers.

Now if true I'm sure it won't be long before it's picked up on.

But if it turns out to be false and Patrick Lechleitner didn't send this report to the governor of texas as reported I'm sure he will come out and say so.

And if all false this scot Wilson guy you speak of should be sued for spreading dangerous misinformation and using the name of the guy from ICE.

maybe wait and see where this goes before completely dismissing it.

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By *immyinreadingMan
15 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Not sure Harris was a winner in my book.

She was a bit fluffy and not Presidential. More local councilar than world leader. America needs a business man as President which Trump is.

If Harris wins the work force will get lazier and more obese like they have under Obama and Biden."

A businessman? A corrupt businessman with a history of bankruptcy, financial crime, stiffing suppliers. An odd hero for you to choose.

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By *immyinreadingMan
15 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Not sure Harris was a winner in my book.

She was a bit fluffy and not Presidential. More local councilar than world leader. America needs a business man as President which Trump is.

If Harris wins the work force will get lazier and more obese like they have under Obama and Biden.

Firstly America is a country, not a business, it should be run for the benefit of the people. Not to make money.

Secondly, Trump is a shit business man, he keeps bankrupting his own businesses.

Apart from that. Yeah. "

He’s he is a shit businessman. A house of cards, held together with phony valuations and lies.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
15 weeks ago

Gilfach


"We won't see it in the mainstream media because it's clearly not true.

If they are undocumented, how can the head of ICE know that they are all criminals?"


"This comes from a guy called Scott Carson who has an investment firm called "we close notes" that has a YouTube channel with this kind of misinformation pumped out."


"I'm not sure who this scot Wilson person is but I read this information on a new York news site.

This report came from the deputy director of the ICE

Patrick Lechleitner."

Then you need to brush up on your reading skills. What Patrick Lechleitner actually said is that the US has records of crimes committed by 435,719 non-US citizens. It's not clear whether that is the full total over the entire history of the US, or if that's just living people. There's nothing in his words that narrows that down the past 4 years, or says that these people are still in the US. Indeed most of them aren't being detained, and so could be anywhere. The number of non-citizens in detention is 14,994, with 4,706 of those not having been convicted of anything yet.

I don't know where you got the idea that Biden and Harris had let all those people in, but it's certainly not from what Patrick Lechleitner said.

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By *abioMan
15 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

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By *onica-mayhemWoman
15 weeks ago

Belfast/dublin


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth! "

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

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By *oan of DArcCouple
15 weeks ago

Glasgow


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now? "

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Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

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By *aughty but nice 11Man
15 weeks ago

Liverpool


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

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Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?"

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

Anyway, just watched the vice president debate.

Jd vance wiped the floor with waltz and I'm soon expecting fabuo to appear gaslighting himself sating waltz won.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
15 weeks ago

Glasgow


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

--------------------------------------------

Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

"

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In what context and where was this 'quoted'?

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By *aughty but nice 11Man
15 weeks ago

Liverpool


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

--------------------------------------------

Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

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In what context and where was this 'quoted'?"

It's no secret that Joe biden was on holiday for 40% of his time as president, something like 135 days per year as president he was on holiday.

Now I'm not going to be searching for the video I seen Jill make that qoute, it may have been when she was a guest on the view or some other show but she said it.

But why sound so surprised?

When the president Is away and on holiday the next person in charge is the vice president.

Can't believe you are actually sat there defending this bunch.

Kamala whole campaign is when I'm in power I'll do this and I'll do that, but she's forgetting she's been in power for nearly 4 years.

She has no policy, they even copy and pasted all the policy from the biden administration and put it on her own site and didn't even remove the name biden from it.

Just embarrassing.

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By *immyinreadingMan
15 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

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Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

Anyway, just watched the vice president debate.

Jd vance wiped the floor with waltz and I'm soon expecting fabuo to appear gaslighting himself sating waltz won."

I haven’t seen a single person other than trump claim that Vance wiped the floor with walz (or waltz, whoever that is).

Seems to have been pretty uneventful with no clear winner.

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By *immyinreadingMan
15 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

--------------------------------------------

Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

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In what context and where was this 'quoted'?

It's no secret that Joe biden was on holiday for 40% of his time as president, something like 135 days per year as president he was on holiday.

Now I'm not going to be searching for the video I seen Jill make that qoute, it may have been when she was a guest on the view or some other show but she said it.

But why sound so surprised?

When the president Is away and on holiday the next person in charge is the vice president.

Can't believe you are actually sat there defending this bunch.

Kamala whole campaign is when I'm in power I'll do this and I'll do that, but she's forgetting she's been in power for nearly 4 years.

She has no policy, they even copy and pasted all the policy from the biden administration and put it on her own site and didn't even remove the name biden from it.

Just embarrassing. "

If a vp is covering for a president, it doesn’t mean they start making policy decisions. They turn the handle on the boss’s plans.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
15 weeks ago

Glasgow


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

--------------------------------------------

Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

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In what context and where was this 'quoted'?

It's no secret that Joe biden was on holiday for 40% of his time as president, something like 135 days per year as president he was on holiday.

Now I'm not going to be searching for the video I seen Jill make that qoute, it may have been when she was a guest on the view or some other show but she said it.

But why sound so surprised?

When the president Is away and on holiday the next person in charge is the vice president.

Can't believe you are actually sat there defending this bunch.

Kamala whole campaign is when I'm in power I'll do this and I'll do that, but she's forgetting she's been in power for nearly 4 years.

She has no policy, they even copy and pasted all the policy from the biden administration and put it on her own site and didn't even remove the name biden from it.

Just embarrassing. "

----------------------------------

I'm not defending anyone, simply responding to posts I believe are erroneous.

The reason I asked for context was to establish whether your statement related to Harris being in charge generally or whilst Biden is on holiday. Since it's the latter that's not unusual, but you won't find a VP implementing their own policies in that scenario.

Harris hasn't 'been in power for nearly 4 years' anymore than Pence was in power during Trump's presidency.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
15 weeks ago

Glasgow


"

It's no secret that Joe biden was on holiday for 40% of his time as president, something like 135 days per year as president he was on holiday.

"

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The statistic you refer to relates to time away from the White House, not time away from work.

For comparison you should check Trumps attendance at the WH during his presidency (or other presidents for that matter).

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By *immyinreadingMan
15 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

--------------------------------------------

Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

-------------------------------------------------

In what context and where was this 'quoted'?

It's no secret that Joe biden was on holiday for 40% of his time as president, something like 135 days per year as president he was on holiday.

Now I'm not going to be searching for the video I seen Jill make that qoute, it may have been when she was a guest on the view or some other show but she said it.

But why sound so surprised?

When the president Is away and on holiday the next person in charge is the vice president.

Can't believe you are actually sat there defending this bunch.

Kamala whole campaign is when I'm in power I'll do this and I'll do that, but she's forgetting she's been in power for nearly 4 years.

She has no policy, they even copy and pasted all the policy from the biden administration and put it on her own site and didn't even remove the name biden from it.

Just embarrassing.

----------------------------------

I'm not defending anyone, simply responding to posts I believe are erroneous.

The reason I asked for context was to establish whether your statement related to Harris being in charge generally or whilst Biden is on holiday. Since it's the latter that's not unusual, but you won't find a VP implementing their own policies in that scenario.

Harris hasn't 'been in power for nearly 4 years' anymore than Pence was in power during Trump's presidency."

Exactly. Deputising doesn’t mean taking over

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By *aughty but nice 11Man
15 weeks ago

Liverpool


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

--------------------------------------------

Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

-------------------------------------------------

In what context and where was this 'quoted'?

It's no secret that Joe biden was on holiday for 40% of his time as president, something like 135 days per year as president he was on holiday.

Now I'm not going to be searching for the video I seen Jill make that qoute, it may have been when she was a guest on the view or some other show but she said it.

But why sound so surprised?

When the president Is away and on holiday the next person in charge is the vice president.

Can't believe you are actually sat there defending this bunch.

Kamala whole campaign is when I'm in power I'll do this and I'll do that, but she's forgetting she's been in power for nearly 4 years.

She has no policy, they even copy and pasted all the policy from the biden administration and put it on her own site and didn't even remove the name biden from it.

Just embarrassing.

----------------------------------

I'm not defending anyone, simply responding to posts I believe are erroneous.

The reason I asked for context was to establish whether your statement related to Harris being in charge generally or whilst Biden is on holiday. Since it's the latter that's not unusual, but you won't find a VP implementing their own policies in that scenario.

Harris hasn't 'been in power for nearly 4 years' anymore than Pence was in power during Trump's presidency.

Exactly. Deputising doesn’t mean taking over "

You're all forgetting one thing, biden hasn't been of coherent mind for a while now, if you actually think Joe biden was making policy and decisions then I have a bridge to sell you.

This is the thing with biden or even with harris, you arnt actually voting for them as a person you are voting for an establishment, people who are nameless, beuracats, that are making policy and decisions, biden and now kamala are just the puppets.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
15 weeks ago

Glasgow


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

--------------------------------------------

Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

-------------------------------------------------

In what context and where was this 'quoted'?

It's no secret that Joe biden was on holiday for 40% of his time as president, something like 135 days per year as president he was on holiday.

Now I'm not going to be searching for the video I seen Jill make that qoute, it may have been when she was a guest on the view or some other show but she said it.

But why sound so surprised?

When the president Is away and on holiday the next person in charge is the vice president.

Can't believe you are actually sat there defending this bunch.

Kamala whole campaign is when I'm in power I'll do this and I'll do that, but she's forgetting she's been in power for nearly 4 years.

She has no policy, they even copy and pasted all the policy from the biden administration and put it on her own site and didn't even remove the name biden from it.

Just embarrassing.

----------------------------------

I'm not defending anyone, simply responding to posts I believe are erroneous.

The reason I asked for context was to establish whether your statement related to Harris being in charge generally or whilst Biden is on holiday. Since it's the latter that's not unusual, but you won't find a VP implementing their own policies in that scenario.

Harris hasn't 'been in power for nearly 4 years' anymore than Pence was in power during Trump's presidency.

Exactly. Deputising doesn’t mean taking over

You're all forgetting one thing, biden hasn't been of coherent mind for a while now, if you actually think Joe biden was making policy and decisions then I have a bridge to sell you.

This is the thing with biden or even with harris, you arnt actually voting for them as a person you are voting for an establishment, people who are nameless, beuracats, that are making policy and decisions, biden and now kamala are just the puppets.

"

-------------------------------

Would a Trump administration be any different?

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By *aughty but nice 11Man
15 weeks ago

Liverpool


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

--------------------------------------------

Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

-------------------------------------------------

In what context and where was this 'quoted'?

It's no secret that Joe biden was on holiday for 40% of his time as president, something like 135 days per year as president he was on holiday.

Now I'm not going to be searching for the video I seen Jill make that qoute, it may have been when she was a guest on the view or some other show but she said it.

But why sound so surprised?

When the president Is away and on holiday the next person in charge is the vice president.

Can't believe you are actually sat there defending this bunch.

Kamala whole campaign is when I'm in power I'll do this and I'll do that, but she's forgetting she's been in power for nearly 4 years.

She has no policy, they even copy and pasted all the policy from the biden administration and put it on her own site and didn't even remove the name biden from it.

Just embarrassing.

----------------------------------

I'm not defending anyone, simply responding to posts I believe are erroneous.

The reason I asked for context was to establish whether your statement related to Harris being in charge generally or whilst Biden is on holiday. Since it's the latter that's not unusual, but you won't find a VP implementing their own policies in that scenario.

Harris hasn't 'been in power for nearly 4 years' anymore than Pence was in power during Trump's presidency.

Exactly. Deputising doesn’t mean taking over

You're all forgetting one thing, biden hasn't been of coherent mind for a while now, if you actually think Joe biden was making policy and decisions then I have a bridge to sell you.

This is the thing with biden or even with harris, you arnt actually voting for them as a person you are voting for an establishment, people who are nameless, beuracats, that are making policy and decisions, biden and now kamala are just the puppets.

-------------------------------

Would a Trump administration be any different? "

Yes I think it would, it's way the establishment is trying their hardest to stop him.

The real danger to democracy isn't trump (as the Democrats and media keep saying).

The real danger is the Democrats and the proof is in the pudding.

2016 hilary and the nedia smeared the whole election and trump with "Russian collusion/interference"

Which proved to be completely untrue and false.

2020 the establishment put pressure on all social media, and main stream media to completely block out the hunter biden lap top fiasco during the election campaign calling it "Russian misinformation".

Well that may have had a impact on the election at the time, and it turned out to be absolutely true.

So that was election interference by the Democrats .

Now here we are in 2024.

Joe biden had zero competition in the primary's as they only allowed his name to go on the ballot.

Rfk tried and wanted to run fir president as a democrat, but they simply road blocked him, leading him to leave the Democrats and become an independent to run for president but still further road blocked him not giving him a fair shot so he ended up endorsing trump. (As did tulsi gabbard).

Then after the car crash debate and biden was forced to drop out (which was no surprise to anyone that was paying attention over the last few years, not being able to finish sentences, walking of stages mid speech, looking lost, yet kamala, the media and the dems gaslighted everyone saying Joe is as sharp of mind as ever).

Once biden dropped out, kamala hasn't received a single vote to become the president nominee, they was stuck with her become all the donation fund for the biden/Harris campaign that was raised wouldn't be able to have gone to anyone else.

So kamala who was lambasted the worse vice president ever during the last few years all of a sudden became the darling of the media as they had to change the narrative around her and the media went from laughing at her for 3 and a half years to adoration.

Seriously anyone that supports the Democrats after all their interference isn't for democracy at all and simply hate trump that much that they don't care what lows the dem will go through.

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By *immyinreadingMan
15 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

--------------------------------------------

Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

-------------------------------------------------

In what context and where was this 'quoted'?

It's no secret that Joe biden was on holiday for 40% of his time as president, something like 135 days per year as president he was on holiday.

Now I'm not going to be searching for the video I seen Jill make that qoute, it may have been when she was a guest on the view or some other show but she said it.

But why sound so surprised?

When the president Is away and on holiday the next person in charge is the vice president.

Can't believe you are actually sat there defending this bunch.

Kamala whole campaign is when I'm in power I'll do this and I'll do that, but she's forgetting she's been in power for nearly 4 years.

She has no policy, they even copy and pasted all the policy from the biden administration and put it on her own site and didn't even remove the name biden from it.

Just embarrassing.

----------------------------------

I'm not defending anyone, simply responding to posts I believe are erroneous.

The reason I asked for context was to establish whether your statement related to Harris being in charge generally or whilst Biden is on holiday. Since it's the latter that's not unusual, but you won't find a VP implementing their own policies in that scenario.

Harris hasn't 'been in power for nearly 4 years' anymore than Pence was in power during Trump's presidency.

Exactly. Deputising doesn’t mean taking over

You're all forgetting one thing, biden hasn't been of coherent mind for a while now, if you actually think Joe biden was making policy and decisions then I have a bridge to sell you.

This is the thing with biden or even with harris, you arnt actually voting for them as a person you are voting for an establishment, people who are nameless, beuracats, that are making policy and decisions, biden and now kamala are just the puppets.

-------------------------------

Would a Trump administration be any different?

Yes I think it would, it's way the establishment is trying their hardest to stop him.

The real danger to democracy isn't trump (as the Democrats and media keep saying).

The real danger is the Democrats and the proof is in the pudding.

2016 hilary and the nedia smeared the whole election and trump with "Russian collusion/interference"

Which proved to be completely untrue and false.

2020 the establishment put pressure on all social media, and main stream media to completely block out the hunter biden lap top fiasco during the election campaign calling it "Russian misinformation".

Well that may have had a impact on the election at the time, and it turned out to be absolutely true.

So that was election interference by the Democrats .

Now here we are in 2024.

Joe biden had zero competition in the primary's as they only allowed his name to go on the ballot.

Rfk tried and wanted to run fir president as a democrat, but they simply road blocked him, leading him to leave the Democrats and become an independent to run for president but still further road blocked him not giving him a fair shot so he ended up endorsing trump. (As did tulsi gabbard).

Then after the car crash debate and biden was forced to drop out (which was no surprise to anyone that was paying attention over the last few years, not being able to finish sentences, walking of stages mid speech, looking lost, yet kamala, the media and the dems gaslighted everyone saying Joe is as sharp of mind as ever).

Once biden dropped out, kamala hasn't received a single vote to become the president nominee, they was stuck with her become all the donation fund for the biden/Harris campaign that was raised wouldn't be able to have gone to anyone else.

So kamala who was lambasted the worse vice president ever during the last few years all of a sudden became the darling of the media as they had to change the narrative around her and the media went from laughing at her for 3 and a half years to adoration.

Seriously anyone that supports the Democrats after all their interference isn't for democracy at all and simply hate trump that much that they don't care what lows the dem will go through.

"

Not sure I agree with any of that.

How did you become such a dogmatic trump supporter?

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By *abioMan
15 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

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By *abioMan
15 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Thanks for assuming what I was going to say… would you actually like to hear what I thought?

I think it was a tale of 2 halves…. Vance you could tell was the slicker debater.. but slick doesn’t mean truthful, you could also tell walz was a lot more nervous, I don’t know if it was not enough press interviews to get him battle ready, or he was over prepared and thinking about his pre planned attack lines because he let Vance get away with a lot of revisionism, especially in the first half

So first half…. Walz fumbled on foreign policy and his involvement in China, Vance got the better on the border and the economy and immigration , but got away with telling a whole lot of falsehoods in the no live fact check format

Vance was in front up till the 1st main break… absolutely will concede that, the fact that walz should have slam dunked Vance on climate change but let him slide is an example on how bad it was

The second half…. Healthcare, gun rights, abortion rights, democracy and January 6th… walz was the way stronger ! Vance was all over the place ( the audacity to say Trump actually saved the ACA was jarring!… fact check .. tried to kill it.. twice)

The highlight of the night unfortunately for Vance came right at the end, so people will remember… couldn’t bring himself to say trump lost the 2020 election, and January 6th didn’t really matter because he ended up peacefully giving up power on January 20th! …. Ballsy! (Fact check.. trump left the white house on the 18th, and became the first president in history not to go to his followers inauguration)

I had it as a draw… Vance spoke as a debater, the answers were there but it was white noise….I think walz did a better job actually speaking to the people, especially in that 2nd half

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By *onica-mayhemWoman
15 weeks ago

Belfast/dublin

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By *onica-mayhemWoman
15 weeks ago

Belfast/dublin


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

--------------------------------------------

Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

-------------------------------------------------

In what context and where was this 'quoted'?

It's no secret that Joe biden was on holiday for 40% of his time as president, something like 135 days per year as president he was on holiday.

Now I'm not going to be searching for the video I seen Jill make that qoute, it may have been when she was a guest on the view or some other show but she said it.

But why sound so surprised?

When the president Is away and on holiday the next person in charge is the vice president.

Can't believe you are actually sat there defending this bunch.

Kamala whole campaign is when I'm in power I'll do this and I'll do that, but she's forgetting she's been in power for nearly 4 years.

She has no policy, they even copy and pasted all the policy from the biden administration and put it on her own site and didn't even remove the name biden from it.

Just embarrassing.

----------------------------------

I'm not defending anyone, simply responding to posts I believe are erroneous.

The reason I asked for context was to establish whether your statement related to Harris being in charge generally or whilst Biden is on holiday. Since it's the latter that's not unusual, but you won't find a VP implementing their own policies in that scenario.

Harris hasn't 'been in power for nearly 4 years' anymore than Pence was in power during Trump's presidency.

Exactly. Deputising doesn’t mean taking over

You're all forgetting one thing, biden hasn't been of coherent mind for a while now, if you actually think Joe biden was making policy and decisions then I have a bridge to sell you.

This is the thing with biden or even with harris, you arnt actually voting for them as a person you are voting for an establishment, people who are nameless, beuracats, that are making policy and decisions, biden and now kamala are just the puppets.

-------------------------------

Would a Trump administration be any different?

Yes I think it would, it's way the establishment is trying their hardest to stop him.

The real danger to democracy isn't trump (as the Democrats and media keep saying).

The real danger is the Democrats and the proof is in the pudding.

2016 hilary and the nedia smeared the whole election and trump with "Russian collusion/interference"

Which proved to be completely untrue and false.

2020 the establishment put pressure on all social media, and main stream media to completely block out the hunter biden lap top fiasco during the election campaign calling it "Russian misinformation".

Well that may have had a impact on the election at the time, and it turned out to be absolutely true.

So that was election interference by the Democrats .

Now here we are in 2024.

Joe biden had zero competition in the primary's as they only allowed his name to go on the ballot.

Rfk tried and wanted to run fir president as a democrat, but they simply road blocked him, leading him to leave the Democrats and become an independent to run for president but still further road blocked him not giving him a fair shot so he ended up endorsing trump. (As did tulsi gabbard).

Then after the car crash debate and biden was forced to drop out (which was no surprise to anyone that was paying attention over the last few years, not being able to finish sentences, walking of stages mid speech, looking lost, yet kamala, the media and the dems gaslighted everyone saying Joe is as sharp of mind as ever).

Once biden dropped out, kamala hasn't received a single vote to become the president nominee, they was stuck with her become all the donation fund for the biden/Harris campaign that was raised wouldn't be able to have gone to anyone else.

So kamala who was lambasted the worse vice president ever during the last few years all of a sudden became the darling of the media as they had to change the narrative around her and the media went from laughing at her for 3 and a half years to adoration.

Seriously anyone that supports the Democrats after all their interference isn't for democracy at all and simply hate trump that much that they don't care what lows the dem will go through.

Not sure I agree with any of that.

How did you become such a dogmatic trump supporter? "

Naughty but nice got it pretty much spot on....

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By *oan of DArcCouple
15 weeks ago

Glasgow


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

--------------------------------------------

Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

-------------------------------------------------

In what context and where was this 'quoted'?

It's no secret that Joe biden was on holiday for 40% of his time as president, something like 135 days per year as president he was on holiday.

Now I'm not going to be searching for the video I seen Jill make that qoute, it may have been when she was a guest on the view or some other show but she said it.

But why sound so surprised?

When the president Is away and on holiday the next person in charge is the vice president.

Can't believe you are actually sat there defending this bunch.

Kamala whole campaign is when I'm in power I'll do this and I'll do that, but she's forgetting she's been in power for nearly 4 years.

She has no policy, they even copy and pasted all the policy from the biden administration and put it on her own site and didn't even remove the name biden from it.

Just embarrassing.

----------------------------------

I'm not defending anyone, simply responding to posts I believe are erroneous.

The reason I asked for context was to establish whether your statement related to Harris being in charge generally or whilst Biden is on holiday. Since it's the latter that's not unusual, but you won't find a VP implementing their own policies in that scenario.

Harris hasn't 'been in power for nearly 4 years' anymore than Pence was in power during Trump's presidency.

Exactly. Deputising doesn’t mean taking over

You're all forgetting one thing, biden hasn't been of coherent mind for a while now, if you actually think Joe biden was making policy and decisions then I have a bridge to sell you.

This is the thing with biden or even with harris, you arnt actually voting for them as a person you are voting for an establishment, people who are nameless, beuracats, that are making policy and decisions, biden and now kamala are just the puppets.

-------------------------------

Would a Trump administration be any different?

Yes I think it would, it's way the establishment is trying their hardest to stop him.

The real danger to democracy isn't trump (as the Democrats and media keep saying).

The real danger is the Democrats and the proof is in the pudding.

2016 hilary and the nedia smeared the whole election and trump with "Russian collusion/interference"

Which proved to be completely untrue and false.

2020 the establishment put pressure on all social media, and main stream media to completely block out the hunter biden lap top fiasco during the election campaign calling it "Russian misinformation".

Well that may have had a impact on the election at the time, and it turned out to be absolutely true.

So that was election interference by the Democrats .

Now here we are in 2024.

Joe biden had zero competition in the primary's as they only allowed his name to go on the ballot.

Rfk tried and wanted to run fir president as a democrat, but they simply road blocked him, leading him to leave the Democrats and become an independent to run for president but still further road blocked him not giving him a fair shot so he ended up endorsing trump. (As did tulsi gabbard).

Then after the car crash debate and biden was forced to drop out (which was no surprise to anyone that was paying attention over the last few years, not being able to finish sentences, walking of stages mid speech, looking lost, yet kamala, the media and the dems gaslighted everyone saying Joe is as sharp of mind as ever).

Once biden dropped out, kamala hasn't received a single vote to become the president nominee, they was stuck with her become all the donation fund for the biden/Harris campaign that was raised wouldn't be able to have gone to anyone else.

So kamala who was lambasted the worse vice president ever during the last few years all of a sudden became the darling of the media as they had to change the narrative around her and the media went from laughing at her for 3 and a half years to adoration.

Seriously anyone that supports the Democrats after all their interference isn't for democracy at all and simply hate trump that much that they don't care what lows the dem will go through.

"

------------------------------------

Your responses really are a snoozefest.

Irrespective of politics anyone with an ounce of intelligence can determine when someone is lying in plain sight, even my 8 year old grandson worked that out on his own with regards to Trump (and Pinocchio for that matter).

Let's hear Trump talk in detail about his objectives and how they're going to be delivered, distracting from this by inventing stories about Haitians eating domestic pets is not a great advert for the leaders of the free world.

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By *onica-mayhemWoman
15 weeks ago

Belfast/dublin


"Thanks for assuming what I was going to say… would you actually like to hear what I thought?

I think it was a tale of 2 halves…. Vance you could tell was the slicker debater.. but slick doesn’t mean truthful, you could also tell walz was a lot more nervous, I don’t know if it was not enough press interviews to get him battle ready, or he was over prepared and thinking about his pre planned attack lines because he let Vance get away with a lot of revisionism, especially in the first half

So first half…. Walz fumbled on foreign policy and his involvement in China, Vance got the better on the border and the economy and immigration , but got away with telling a whole lot of falsehoods in the no live fact check format

Vance was in front up till the 1st main break… absolutely will concede that, the fact that walz should have slam dunked Vance on climate change but let him slide is an example on how bad it was

The second half…. Healthcare, gun rights, abortion rights, democracy and January 6th… walz was the way stronger ! Vance was all over the place ( the audacity to say Trump actually saved the ACA was jarring!… fact check .. tried to kill it.. twice)

The highlight of the night unfortunately for Vance came right at the end, so people will remember… couldn’t bring himself to say trump lost the 2020 election, and January 6th didn’t really matter because he ended up peacefully giving up power on January 20th! …. Ballsy! (Fact check.. trump left the white house on the 18th, and became the first president in history not to go to his followers inauguration)

I had it as a draw… Vance spoke as a debater, the answers were there but it was white noise….I think walz did a better job actually speaking to the people, especially in that 2nd half "

Waltz looked like he was recording his hostage video at gunpoint.

Interesting that you said that dance did better on immigration, the border and the economy. Those are the three most important issues that US voters care about. Jan 6th, eating pets and China aren't uppermost in the minds of voters really and "the climate" sits around number 12/13th place.

You can hardly sit and look at waltz and consider him the future of the democrat party but vance could be seen as the next candidate for pres in the 2028 run.

Waltz...4.5/10 out of his depth

Vance...6/10 slick but full of shit

The future looks bleek

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By *onica-mayhemWoman
15 weeks ago

Belfast/dublin

Vance not dance...auto correct

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By *immyinreadingMan
15 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

--------------------------------------------

Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

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In what context and where was this 'quoted'?

It's no secret that Joe biden was on holiday for 40% of his time as president, something like 135 days per year as president he was on holiday.

Now I'm not going to be searching for the video I seen Jill make that qoute, it may have been when she was a guest on the view or some other show but she said it.

But why sound so surprised?

When the president Is away and on holiday the next person in charge is the vice president.

Can't believe you are actually sat there defending this bunch.

Kamala whole campaign is when I'm in power I'll do this and I'll do that, but she's forgetting she's been in power for nearly 4 years.

She has no policy, they even copy and pasted all the policy from the biden administration and put it on her own site and didn't even remove the name biden from it.

Just embarrassing.

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I'm not defending anyone, simply responding to posts I believe are erroneous.

The reason I asked for context was to establish whether your statement related to Harris being in charge generally or whilst Biden is on holiday. Since it's the latter that's not unusual, but you won't find a VP implementing their own policies in that scenario.

Harris hasn't 'been in power for nearly 4 years' anymore than Pence was in power during Trump's presidency.

Exactly. Deputising doesn’t mean taking over

You're all forgetting one thing, biden hasn't been of coherent mind for a while now, if you actually think Joe biden was making policy and decisions then I have a bridge to sell you.

This is the thing with biden or even with harris, you arnt actually voting for them as a person you are voting for an establishment, people who are nameless, beuracats, that are making policy and decisions, biden and now kamala are just the puppets.

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Would a Trump administration be any different?

Yes I think it would, it's way the establishment is trying their hardest to stop him.

The real danger to democracy isn't trump (as the Democrats and media keep saying).

The real danger is the Democrats and the proof is in the pudding.

2016 hilary and the nedia smeared the whole election and trump with "Russian collusion/interference"

Which proved to be completely untrue and false.

2020 the establishment put pressure on all social media, and main stream media to completely block out the hunter biden lap top fiasco during the election campaign calling it "Russian misinformation".

Well that may have had a impact on the election at the time, and it turned out to be absolutely true.

So that was election interference by the Democrats .

Now here we are in 2024.

Joe biden had zero competition in the primary's as they only allowed his name to go on the ballot.

Rfk tried and wanted to run fir president as a democrat, but they simply road blocked him, leading him to leave the Democrats and become an independent to run for president but still further road blocked him not giving him a fair shot so he ended up endorsing trump. (As did tulsi gabbard).

Then after the car crash debate and biden was forced to drop out (which was no surprise to anyone that was paying attention over the last few years, not being able to finish sentences, walking of stages mid speech, looking lost, yet kamala, the media and the dems gaslighted everyone saying Joe is as sharp of mind as ever).

Once biden dropped out, kamala hasn't received a single vote to become the president nominee, they was stuck with her become all the donation fund for the biden/Harris campaign that was raised wouldn't be able to have gone to anyone else.

So kamala who was lambasted the worse vice president ever during the last few years all of a sudden became the darling of the media as they had to change the narrative around her and the media went from laughing at her for 3 and a half years to adoration.

Seriously anyone that supports the Democrats after all their interference isn't for democracy at all and simply hate trump that much that they don't care what lows the dem will go through.

Not sure I agree with any of that.

How did you become such a dogmatic trump supporter?

Naughty but nice got it pretty much spot on....

"

Not in my book. And I lived in the US for many years

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By *immyinreadingMan
15 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Vance not dance...auto correct "

… and while we’re at it, it’s Walz, not Waltz!

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By *hrill CollinsMan
15 weeks ago

The Outer Rim


"Harris won the debate."

yes, she most certainly did.

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By *aughty but nice 11Man
15 weeks ago

Liverpool


"Thanks for assuming what I was going to say… would you actually like to hear what I thought?

I think it was a tale of 2 halves…. Vance you could tell was the slicker debater.. but slick doesn’t mean truthful, you could also tell walz was a lot more nervous, I don’t know if it was not enough press interviews to get him battle ready, or he was over prepared and thinking about his pre planned attack lines because he let Vance get away with a lot of revisionism, especially in the first half

So first half…. Walz fumbled on foreign policy and his involvement in China, Vance got the better on the border and the economy and immigration , but got away with telling a whole lot of falsehoods in the no live fact check format

Vance was in front up till the 1st main break… absolutely will concede that, the fact that walz should have slam dunked Vance on climate change but let him slide is an example on how bad it was

The second half…. Healthcare, gun rights, abortion rights, democracy and January 6th… walz was the way stronger ! Vance was all over the place ( the audacity to say Trump actually saved the ACA was jarring!… fact check .. tried to kill it.. twice)

The highlight of the night unfortunately for Vance came right at the end, so people will remember… couldn’t bring himself to say trump lost the 2020 election, and January 6th didn’t really matter because he ended up peacefully giving up power on January 20th! …. Ballsy! (Fact check.. trump left the white house on the 18th, and became the first president in history not to go to his followers inauguration)

I had it as a draw… Vance spoke as a debater, the answers were there but it was white noise….I think walz did a better job actually speaking to the people, especially in that 2nd half "

With all due respect _abio you just pretty much parroted word for word what Rachel maddow said in her reaction to the debate.

At least go watch a few different reactions from different outlets other than the ones skewered with bias for the Democrats

I've watched various reactions and all have vance coming out way on top, even CNN admitted it wasn't a good showing for Waltz.

Please do better, seeing as I've noticed people come to you looking for your opinion on what's going on over there, unfortunately you only ever watch one side of things.

Your opinion on the debate is basically what Rachel maddow told you to take from it.

In the last few weeks I've watched kamala do her mnsbc interview, her cnn interview, her operah winfrey interview and she was simply awful on all of them.

Do you ever watch the other side?

Do you listen to tulsi gabbard interviews?

Rfk interviews when they are given a platform and why they had to come away from the dems and endorse trump?

Watch listening to what those 2 alone have had to say is more than enough to make anyone think twice about supporting these awful Democrats.

They are a danger to the world not just the US.

everything going on right now regarding ukrain/Russia and isreal and Iran would never have happened if it wasn't for the absolute disaster that is biden/harris.

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By *aughty but nice 11Man
15 weeks ago

Liverpool


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

--------------------------------------------

Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

-------------------------------------------------

In what context and where was this 'quoted'?

It's no secret that Joe biden was on holiday for 40% of his time as president, something like 135 days per year as president he was on holiday.

Now I'm not going to be searching for the video I seen Jill make that qoute, it may have been when she was a guest on the view or some other show but she said it.

But why sound so surprised?

When the president Is away and on holiday the next person in charge is the vice president.

Can't believe you are actually sat there defending this bunch.

Kamala whole campaign is when I'm in power I'll do this and I'll do that, but she's forgetting she's been in power for nearly 4 years.

She has no policy, they even copy and pasted all the policy from the biden administration and put it on her own site and didn't even remove the name biden from it.

Just embarrassing.

----------------------------------

I'm not defending anyone, simply responding to posts I believe are erroneous.

The reason I asked for context was to establish whether your statement related to Harris being in charge generally or whilst Biden is on holiday. Since it's the latter that's not unusual, but you won't find a VP implementing their own policies in that scenario.

Harris hasn't 'been in power for nearly 4 years' anymore than Pence was in power during Trump's presidency.

Exactly. Deputising doesn’t mean taking over

You're all forgetting one thing, biden hasn't been of coherent mind for a while now, if you actually think Joe biden was making policy and decisions then I have a bridge to sell you.

This is the thing with biden or even with harris, you arnt actually voting for them as a person you are voting for an establishment, people who are nameless, beuracats, that are making policy and decisions, biden and now kamala are just the puppets.

-------------------------------

Would a Trump administration be any different?

Yes I think it would, it's way the establishment is trying their hardest to stop him.

The real danger to democracy isn't trump (as the Democrats and media keep saying).

The real danger is the Democrats and the proof is in the pudding.

2016 hilary and the nedia smeared the whole election and trump with "Russian collusion/interference"

Which proved to be completely untrue and false.

2020 the establishment put pressure on all social media, and main stream media to completely block out the hunter biden lap top fiasco during the election campaign calling it "Russian misinformation".

Well that may have had a impact on the election at the time, and it turned out to be absolutely true.

So that was election interference by the Democrats .

Now here we are in 2024.

Joe biden had zero competition in the primary's as they only allowed his name to go on the ballot.

Rfk tried and wanted to run fir president as a democrat, but they simply road blocked him, leading him to leave the Democrats and become an independent to run for president but still further road blocked him not giving him a fair shot so he ended up endorsing trump. (As did tulsi gabbard).

Then after the car crash debate and biden was forced to drop out (which was no surprise to anyone that was paying attention over the last few years, not being able to finish sentences, walking of stages mid speech, looking lost, yet kamala, the media and the dems gaslighted everyone saying Joe is as sharp of mind as ever).

Once biden dropped out, kamala hasn't received a single vote to become the president nominee, they was stuck with her become all the donation fund for the biden/Harris campaign that was raised wouldn't be able to have gone to anyone else.

So kamala who was lambasted the worse vice president ever during the last few years all of a sudden became the darling of the media as they had to change the narrative around her and the media went from laughing at her for 3 and a half years to adoration.

Seriously anyone that supports the Democrats after all their interference isn't for democracy at all and simply hate trump that much that they don't care what lows the dem will go through.

Not sure I agree with any of that.

How did you become such a dogmatic trump supporter?

Naughty but nice got it pretty much spot on....

Not in my book. And I lived in the US for many years "

You having lived in the US for many years doesn't take away from the fact everything I've just said is true.

So let me just check...

1. You still believe the Russian collusion story from 2016 all the way through Trump's presidency where they was trying to impeach him?

The Russian collision has been debunked at completely false.

2. You still believe the hunter biden laptop was Russian misinformation?

And that the government had no involvement telling media outlets not to give it any light of day and sweep it under the rug?

Also completely true so I've no idea what rock you've been living under.

3. So please share with me who else was able to get on the primary's ballot for presidency apart from biden?

Oh you can't? That's because no one else was allowed to run against biden as democrat.

Simply go watch rfks speech where he endorses trump, he explains exactly what the Democrats did to him to prevent him running.

And whilst you are at it go watch tulsi gabbard and what the Democrats did to her as political retaliation for endorsing trump.

She ended up and a domestic terrorist list called quiet skies.

The Democrats are deplorable in every way.

Do your research as I can't believe you can still be clueless to all of this.

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By *imba NinjaMan
15 weeks ago

Aberdeen


"Anyway…. Vice presidential debate tonight…..

I’m interested in watching just because JD Vance just can’t stop being able to manage putting his foot in his mouth!

Maybe Waltz can outline the things harris intends to do about inflation, cost of living, the southern border etc... she's been at 2 or 3 softball interviews and asked. Everytime she just babbles on about being middle class, growing up in an area with nice lawns, working at mc Donald's and not answering a single question put to her. Why doesn't she have an interview with someone that will disagree with her on certain topics?

She's been in the number 2 position for 3.5yrs....why doesn't/hasn't she fix things now?

--------------------------------------------

Because it's Biden's administration not hers. Do you think Vance would have any influence over a Trump administration?

But biden spent over half his presidency on holiday and his wife Jill was even qoutee as saying that everything was in kamalas hands.

-------------------------------------------------

In what context and where was this 'quoted'?

It's no secret that Joe biden was on holiday for 40% of his time as president, something like 135 days per year as president he was on holiday.

Now I'm not going to be searching for the video I seen Jill make that qoute, it may have been when she was a guest on the view or some other show but she said it.

But why sound so surprised?

When the president Is away and on holiday the next person in charge is the vice president.

Can't believe you are actually sat there defending this bunch.

Kamala whole campaign is when I'm in power I'll do this and I'll do that, but she's forgetting she's been in power for nearly 4 years.

She has no policy, they even copy and pasted all the policy from the biden administration and put it on her own site and didn't even remove the name biden from it.

Just embarrassing.

----------------------------------

I'm not defending anyone, simply responding to posts I believe are erroneous.

The reason I asked for context was to establish whether your statement related to Harris being in charge generally or whilst Biden is on holiday. Since it's the latter that's not unusual, but you won't find a VP implementing their own policies in that scenario.

Harris hasn't 'been in power for nearly 4 years' anymore than Pence was in power during Trump's presidency.

Exactly. Deputising doesn’t mean taking over

You're all forgetting one thing, biden hasn't been of coherent mind for a while now, if you actually think Joe biden was making policy and decisions then I have a bridge to sell you.

This is the thing with biden or even with harris, you arnt actually voting for them as a person you are voting for an establishment, people who are nameless, beuracats, that are making policy and decisions, biden and now kamala are just the puppets.

-------------------------------

Would a Trump administration be any different?

Yes I think it would, it's way the establishment is trying their hardest to stop him.

The real danger to democracy isn't trump (as the Democrats and media keep saying).

The real danger is the Democrats and the proof is in the pudding.

2016 hilary and the nedia smeared the whole election and trump with "Russian collusion/interference"

Which proved to be completely untrue and false.

2020 the establishment put pressure on all social media, and main stream media to completely block out the hunter biden lap top fiasco during the election campaign calling it "Russian misinformation".

Well that may have had a impact on the election at the time, and it turned out to be absolutely true.

So that was election interference by the Democrats .

Now here we are in 2024.

Joe biden had zero competition in the primary's as they only allowed his name to go on the ballot.

Rfk tried and wanted to run fir president as a democrat, but they simply road blocked him, leading him to leave the Democrats and become an independent to run for president but still further road blocked him not giving him a fair shot so he ended up endorsing trump. (As did tulsi gabbard).

Then after the car crash debate and biden was forced to drop out (which was no surprise to anyone that was paying attention over the last few years, not being able to finish sentences, walking of stages mid speech, looking lost, yet kamala, the media and the dems gaslighted everyone saying Joe is as sharp of mind as ever).

Once biden dropped out, kamala hasn't received a single vote to become the president nominee, they was stuck with her become all the donation fund for the biden/Harris campaign that was raised wouldn't be able to have gone to anyone else.

So kamala who was lambasted the worse vice president ever during the last few years all of a sudden became the darling of the media as they had to change the narrative around her and the media went from laughing at her for 3 and a half years to adoration.

Seriously anyone that supports the Democrats after all their interference isn't for democracy at all and simply hate trump that much that they don't care what lows the dem will go through.

Not sure I agree with any of that.

How did you become such a dogmatic trump supporter?

Naughty but nice got it pretty much spot on....

Not in my book. And I lived in the US for many years

You having lived in the US for many years doesn't take away from the fact everything I've just said is true.

So let me just check...

1. You still believe the Russian collusion story from 2016 all the way through Trump's presidency where they was trying to impeach him?

The Russian collision has been debunked at completely false.

2. You still believe the hunter biden laptop was Russian misinformation?

And that the government had no involvement telling media outlets not to give it any light of day and sweep it under the rug?

Also completely true so I've no idea what rock you've been living under.

3. So please share with me who else was able to get on the primary's ballot for presidency apart from biden?

Oh you can't? That's because no one else was allowed to run against biden as democrat.

Simply go watch rfks speech where he endorses trump, he explains exactly what the Democrats did to him to prevent him running.

And whilst you are at it go watch tulsi gabbard and what the Democrats did to her as political retaliation for endorsing trump.

She ended up and a domestic terrorist list called quiet skies.

The Democrats are deplorable in every way.

Do your research as I can't believe you can still be clueless to all of this."

So the first falsehood you push is very inaccurate to say the least.

Trumps first national security adviser General Flynn pled guilty to not disclosing his Russian contacts to the FBI. Trump pardoned him surprise surprise!

Mueller report conclusion was that there was collusion on a huge scale. Trump wasn't convicted only because he was the sitting President.

So on that note il not read the rest of the misinformation your pumping out thanks very much

Debunked!

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By *onica-mayhemWoman
15 weeks ago

Belfast/dublin


"Vance not dance...auto correct

… and while we’re at it, it’s Walz, not Waltz! "

I left the letter T in his name to remind everyone that he insisted on putting tampons in boys only toilet and changing rooms in schools within his state. The work of a complete and total fucking arsehole. He's not called Tampon Tim for nothing.

Obama wanted a stupid person for VP so he chose biden. Biden wanted a more stupid person for VP so he chose harris. Harris wants an even more stupid person as her VP and along came waltTz...

Have yourself a tenner on Peter griffin or homer Simpson being VP for the 2028 election.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
15 weeks ago

The Outer Rim


"Have yourself a tenner on Peter griffin or homer Simpson being VP for the 2028 election. "

that ticket would indeed be a small improvement from trump and his fuckwit sidekick that was on the tv last night

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