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"Been watching on TV and agree the News Media must never be taken as solid evidence. But for the haters of Trump, this is evidence that Trump is not as anywhere near as bad as the Biden supporters lol Let the Haters come forth lol" we dont know anything yet. id may have been thrown bangers or anything. starting to blame biden supporters is part of the problem and why people get so worked up and start hating. | |||
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"Been watching on TV and agree the News Media must never be taken as solid evidence. But for the haters of Trump, this is evidence that Trump is not as anywhere near as bad as the Biden supporters lol Let the Haters come forth lol we dont know anything yet. id may have been thrown bangers or anything. starting to blame biden supporters is part of the problem and why people get so worked up and start hating. " Agreed. It's already happening a guy was blaming the Democrats for it on Sky. With absolutely no evidence | |||
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"Been watching on TV and agree the News Media must never be taken as solid evidence. But for the haters of Trump, this is evidence that Trump is not as anywhere near as bad as the Biden supporters lol Let the Haters come forth lol we dont know anything yet. id may have been thrown bangers or anything. starting to blame biden supporters is part of the problem and why people get so worked up and start hating. " Thrown bangers? One person is already reported as dead | |||
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"lets just see what has actually happened. ive seen the footage a few times now but lets see. many things get twisted by the media so lets wait. i just hope regardless of what you think of him no one celebrates this. " Seeing the footage and the fact 1 person is dead (maybe the shooter, who knows) I don't think it's bangers or anything, the blood from the ear is damage. | |||
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"Been watching on TV and agree the News Media must never be taken as solid evidence. But for the haters of Trump, this is evidence that Trump is not as anywhere near as bad as the Biden supporters lol Let the Haters come forth lol we dont know anything yet. id may have been thrown bangers or anything. starting to blame biden supporters is part of the problem and why people get so worked up and start hating. Thrown bangers? One person is already reported as dead" well obviously i didnt know someone is dead. | |||
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"Been watching on TV and agree the News Media must never be taken as solid evidence. But for the haters of Trump, this is evidence that Trump is not as anywhere near as bad as the Biden supporters lol Let the Haters come forth lol we dont know anything yet. id may have been thrown bangers or anything. starting to blame biden supporters is part of the problem and why people get so worked up and start hating. Thrown bangers? One person is already reported as dead well obviously i didnt know someone is dead. " Well obviously perhaps you should zip it until you did know what happened ? | |||
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"Been watching on TV and agree the News Media must never be taken as solid evidence. But for the haters of Trump, this is evidence that Trump is not as anywhere near as bad as the Biden supporters lol Let the Haters come forth lol we dont know anything yet. id may have been thrown bangers or anything. starting to blame biden supporters is part of the problem and why people get so worked up and start hating. Thrown bangers? One person is already reported as dead well obviously i didnt know someone is dead. Well obviously perhaps you should zip it until you did know what happened ? " To be fair they did say we don't know what's happened | |||
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"Been watching on TV and agree the News Media must never be taken as solid evidence. But for the haters of Trump, this is evidence that Trump is not as anywhere near as bad as the Biden supporters lol Let the Haters come forth lol we dont know anything yet. id may have been thrown bangers or anything. starting to blame biden supporters is part of the problem and why people get so worked up and start hating. " LOL | |||
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"Just watching news. Yes two dead. My thought yes someone with a rifle at distance. Now which from video is protection personnel try to protect him. Yet twice he chooses to show himself after shots fired. Again putting him and security at very big risk of being killed ? He is not doing as security requires. Yes security for him does require putting their life at risk. But not in circumstances that have happened ? Him showinf face , target to shot at ? " Are you for real?? | |||
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"Just watching news. Yes two dead. My thought yes someone with a rifle at distance. Now which from video is protection personnel try to protect him. Yet twice he chooses to show himself after shots fired. Again putting him and security at very big risk of being killed ? He is not doing as security requires. Yes security for him does require putting their life at risk. But not in circumstances that have happened ? Him showinf face , target to shot at ? Are you for real??" Appears not to be very cooperative with security who were also at risk. Glad it wasn't worse but Trump being Trump will oribably have the image on t-shirts and mugs by tomorrow. | |||
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"This incident needs to temper the language on all sides……. " Agreed, this act by a twenty year old was wrong and the only thing we should all agree upon is that there's no place for it.. | |||
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"Mark Violets a left wing extremist has been named as the gun man. At least 2 dead." The gunman, Thomas Matthew Crooks, was a registered Republican. | |||
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"Mark Violets a left wing extremist has been named as the gun man. At least 2 dead. The gunman, Thomas Matthew Crooks, was a registered Republican." And apparently Mark Violets is the English translation of an Italian Marco Violin whom some on the right claimed had been arrested several hours before the FBI said they had neutralised the shooter.. Worrying when on here some are gullible enough to jump to the conclusion referred to.. | |||
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"Mark Violets a left wing extremist has been named as the gun man. At least 2 dead. The gunman, Thomas Matthew Crooks, was a registered Republican. And apparently Mark Violets is the English translation of an Italian Marco Violin whom some on the right claimed had been arrested several hours before the FBI said they had neutralised the shooter.. Worrying when on here some are gullible enough to jump to the conclusion referred to.." People believe what they want to believe, they don’t want the right answer, they want to be right. It’s as sad as it is worrying. | |||
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"Mark Violets a left wing extremist has been named as the gun man. At least 2 dead. The gunman, Thomas Matthew Crooks, was a registered Republican. And apparently Mark Violets is the English translation of an Italian Marco Violin whom some on the right claimed had been arrested several hours before the FBI said they had neutralised the shooter.. Worrying when on here some are gullible enough to jump to the conclusion referred to.." I do wonder if the person could sue for defamation…. So many people were so quick to put out a lot of names last night, and the one thing I am not hearing are a whole bunch of apologies… | |||
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"Any comment from his buddy David Lammy yet " He said "as we monitor the shocking events in Pennsylvania our thoughts and best wishes are with President Trump and the other victims and their families" | |||
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"Any comment from his buddy David Lammy yet " We know the shooter was actually a registered republican…. And yet your whole contribution to the thread is to throw shade at the new foreign secretary for no reason to try to support so convoluted narrative in your head… Wow….. | |||
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"Just watching news. Yes two dead. My thought yes someone with a rifle at distance. Now which from video is protection personnel try to protect him. Yet twice he chooses to show himself after shots fired. Again putting him and security at very big risk of being killed ? He is not doing as security requires. Yes security for him does require putting their life at risk. But not in circumstances that have happened ? Him showinf face , target to shot at ? " I think it's the fact he's on the ground until getting told that the shooter is down, certainly seems that way with the shots, 2/3 slow (probably from the shooter) then a few frantic (probably the counter sniper team) then a lone shot (maybe the shooter twitched as dying so counter sniper shot again) | |||
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"Any comment from his buddy David Lammy yet He said "as we monitor the shocking events in Pennsylvania our thoughts and best wishes are with President Trump and the other victims and their families"" Which is in stark contrast to his previous comments. ‘The 2018 Time article was published ahead of Trump’s first visit to the U.K., and Lammy committed to be one of “tens of thousands on the streets, protesting against our government’s capitulation to this tyrant in a toupee.” “Trump is not only a woman-hating, neo-Nazi-sympathizing sociopath. He is also a profound threat to the international order that has been the foundation of Western progress for so long,” he wrote in Time. “It is because I cherish and champion those values that this Friday, I will march with London against Donald Trump.” Lammy criticized Trump as slandering and insulting London for political benefit, and that “Trump has barely concealed his racist attacks on the U.K.” | |||
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"Any comment from his buddy David Lammy yet He said "as we monitor the shocking events in Pennsylvania our thoughts and best wishes are with President Trump and the other victims and their families" Which is in stark contrast to his previous comments. ‘The 2018 Time article was published ahead of Trump’s first visit to the U.K., and Lammy committed to be one of “tens of thousands on the streets, protesting against our government’s capitulation to this tyrant in a toupee.” “Trump is not only a woman-hating, neo-Nazi-sympathizing sociopath. He is also a profound threat to the international order that has been the foundation of Western progress for so long,” he wrote in Time. “It is because I cherish and champion those values that this Friday, I will march with London against Donald Trump.” Lammy criticized Trump as slandering and insulting London for political benefit, and that “Trump has barely concealed his racist attacks on the U.K.”" Glad to see I wasn’t wrong about the whole “narrative” thing….. | |||
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"Any comment from his buddy David Lammy yet He said "as we monitor the shocking events in Pennsylvania our thoughts and best wishes are with President Trump and the other victims and their families" Which is in stark contrast to his previous comments. ‘The 2018 Time article was published ahead of Trump’s first visit to the U.K., and Lammy committed to be one of “tens of thousands on the streets, protesting against our government’s capitulation to this tyrant in a toupee.” “Trump is not only a woman-hating, neo-Nazi-sympathizing sociopath. He is also a profound threat to the international order that has been the foundation of Western progress for so long,” he wrote in Time. “It is because I cherish and champion those values that this Friday, I will march with London against Donald Trump.” Lammy criticized Trump as slandering and insulting London for political benefit, and that “Trump has barely concealed his racist attacks on the U.K.”" Maybe, and bear with me on this because it might just go against every belief system you have, I te possible to hate what someone stands for but not want physical harm to befall them? | |||
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"Any comment from his buddy David Lammy yet He said "as we monitor the shocking events in Pennsylvania our thoughts and best wishes are with President Trump and the other victims and their families" Which is in stark contrast to his previous comments. ‘The 2018 Time article was published ahead of Trump’s first visit to the U.K., and Lammy committed to be one of “tens of thousands on the streets, protesting against our government’s capitulation to this tyrant in a toupee.” “Trump is not only a woman-hating, neo-Nazi-sympathizing sociopath. He is also a profound threat to the international order that has been the foundation of Western progress for so long,” he wrote in Time. “It is because I cherish and champion those values that this Friday, I will march with London against Donald Trump.” Lammy criticized Trump as slandering and insulting London for political benefit, and that “Trump has barely concealed his racist attacks on the U.K.” Maybe, and bear with me on this because it might just go against every belief system you have, I te possible to hate what someone stands for but not want physical harm to befall them?" *It’s possible | |||
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"Any comment from his buddy David Lammy yet He said "as we monitor the shocking events in Pennsylvania our thoughts and best wishes are with President Trump and the other victims and their families" Which is in stark contrast to his previous comments. ‘The 2018 Time article was published ahead of Trump’s first visit to the U.K., and Lammy committed to be one of “tens of thousands on the streets, protesting against our government’s capitulation to this tyrant in a toupee.” “Trump is not only a woman-hating, neo-Nazi-sympathizing sociopath. He is also a profound threat to the international order that has been the foundation of Western progress for so long,” he wrote in Time. “It is because I cherish and champion those values that this Friday, I will march with London against Donald Trump.” Lammy criticized Trump as slandering and insulting London for political benefit, and that “Trump has barely concealed his racist attacks on the U.K.”" Objectively pretty accurate comments then.. 
Thing is now he's in office he is and has rightly said what he should..
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"Trump is basically fiddy atm, Felon and shot. Putting some humour into this polarising event" Yeah, you said that already. | |||
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"Trump is basically fiddy atm, Felon and shot. Putting some humour into this polarising event" I'm not sure there's anything whatsoever funny at all when people lose their lives because someone tried to kill someone else.. | |||
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"Any comment from his buddy David Lammy yet He said "as we monitor the shocking events in Pennsylvania our thoughts and best wishes are with President Trump and the other victims and their families" Which is in stark contrast to his previous comments. ‘The 2018 Time article was published ahead of Trump’s first visit to the U.K., and Lammy committed to be one of “tens of thousands on the streets, protesting against our government’s capitulation to this tyrant in a toupee.” “Trump is not only a woman-hating, neo-Nazi-sympathizing sociopath. He is also a profound threat to the international order that has been the foundation of Western progress for so long,” he wrote in Time. “It is because I cherish and champion those values that this Friday, I will march with London against Donald Trump.” Lammy criticized Trump as slandering and insulting London for political benefit, and that “Trump has barely concealed his racist attacks on the U.K.” Glad to see I wasn’t wrong about the whole “narrative” thing….. "The only point making was our new foreign secretary’s previous careless comments on his dislike of potentially the new POTUS Can’t stand trump myself but Lammy is also a bully and his newspaper comments irretractable Not endearing when representing UK and trying to get those post brexit trade deals. | |||
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"The people rushing to delete tweets this morning. Wasn’t so long ago people would write similar calls on here. This will galvanise his movement. " Irony being trump himself…. Let’s not forget just a few days ago he was yet again mocking the attack on Paul pelosi, husband on Nancy, in an attack at their home with a hammer, where she was apparently the intended target Hopefully… like I said this tempers the language on all sides… I don’t need a potential attack on Biden, like we just had one on trump, like we had one on Steve scalise, like we had one on gabby Gifford | |||
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"My point any politician who has security is briefed on what to do in an attack . Keep head , body out of view. So he decided twice to show head face etc and put his personnel at risk of being killed. He did not know the ‘shooter ‘ had been disabled ? So you think any security who have family perhaps . Yes know risk of job . But expect who are protecting do as required by them to do as required in event of any security breach ? " He did know the shooter had been disabled. You can clearly here one of the secret service that was laid ontop of Trump on the floor say "shooter down" that's when they made the decision it was an appropriate moment to get the President up and move him to a secure location. | |||
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"Any comment from his buddy David Lammy yet He said "as we monitor the shocking events in Pennsylvania our thoughts and best wishes are with President Trump and the other victims and their families" Which is in stark contrast to his previous comments. ‘The 2018 Time article was published ahead of Trump’s first visit to the U.K., and Lammy committed to be one of “tens of thousands on the streets, protesting against our government’s capitulation to this tyrant in a toupee.” “Trump is not only a woman-hating, neo-Nazi-sympathizing sociopath. He is also a profound threat to the international order that has been the foundation of Western progress for so long,” he wrote in Time. “It is because I cherish and champion those values that this Friday, I will march with London against Donald Trump.” Lammy criticized Trump as slandering and insulting London for political benefit, and that “Trump has barely concealed his racist attacks on the U.K.” Maybe, and bear with me on this because it might just go against every belief system you have, I te possible to hate what someone stands for but not want physical harm to befall them?" Hating someone is fine but when people start using language like "Nazi" or throwing around unhinged conspiracy theories like the Russian collusion it leeds to others committing the viliolence. | |||
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"The image with him raising his fist with the American flag in the background is going to go hard. " It is going to be one of the most iconic photos of the time, it sums up so much in one image. I admire his defiance in this incident | |||
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"My point any politician who has security is briefed on what to do in an attack . Keep head , body out of view. So he decided twice to show head face etc and put his personnel at risk of being killed. He did not know the ‘shooter ‘ had been disabled ? So you think any security who have family perhaps . Yes know risk of job . But expect who are protecting do as required by them to do as required in event of any security breach ? He did know the shooter had been disabled. You can clearly here one of the secret service that was laid ontop of Trump on the floor say "shooter down" that's when they made the decision it was an appropriate moment to get the President up and move him to a secure location." Did Mr Trump know at that point that there were no other threats to him or his security team, there could have been others, seems silly behaviour on his part when surely the priority was getting all involved to a safe place, not making grandstanding gestures. | |||
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"My point any politician who has security is briefed on what to do in an attack . Keep head , body out of view. So he decided twice to show head face etc and put his personnel at risk of being killed. He did not know the ‘shooter ‘ had been disabled ? So you think any security who have family perhaps . Yes know risk of job . But expect who are protecting do as required by them to do as required in event of any security breach ? He did know the shooter had been disabled. You can clearly here one of the secret service that was laid ontop of Trump on the floor say "shooter down" that's when they made the decision it was an appropriate moment to get the President up and move him to a secure location. Did Mr Trump know at that point that there were no other threats to him or his security team, there could have been others, seems silly behaviour on his part when surely the priority was getting all involved to a safe place, not making grandstanding gestures. His behaviour when being moved by his security team after being shot, is your main concern  "Exactly.. | |||
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"Well just happened.... trumps been shot, hit his ear maybe and got a defining image of the election campaign, could this spark something?" Wife?  | |||
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"Trump is basically fiddy atm, Felon and shot. Putting some humour into this polarising event" English would be good  | |||
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"Gun attacks on Presidents and prominent politicians in the USA are nothing new and I can’t see that changing anytime soon..." Collateral damage is the horrendous aspect. RIP spectator. | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him." Nope, they’re too busy looking for something to be angry about. Good on Trump to show his defiance after someone tried to end his life | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him." ‘yall,’ are you American? | |||
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"My point any politician who has security is briefed on what to do in an attack . Keep head , body out of view. So he decided twice to show head face etc and put his personnel at risk of being killed. He did not know the ‘shooter ‘ had been disabled ? So you think any security who have family perhaps . Yes know risk of job . But expect who are protecting do as required by them to do as required in event of any security breach ? He did know the shooter had been disabled. You can clearly here one of the secret service that was laid ontop of Trump on the floor say "shooter down" that's when they made the decision it was an appropriate moment to get the President up and move him to a secure location. Did Mr Trump know at that point that there were no other threats to him or his security team, there could have been others, seems silly behaviour on his part when surely the priority was getting all involved to a safe place, not making grandstanding gestures. His behaviour when being moved by his security team after being shot, is your main concern
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American?" No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. | |||
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"I just watched a video of the stage from the crowd. You can see secret service marksmen on the roof in the corner of the video. Here’s the weird part, when the shooter takes his shot, the marksmen don’t have to target their guns at him. They have already got him in their sights and have done for some time." Some videos have been edited. I saw many clips of the police snipers moving their weapons to the target last night. Can't seem to find them now. That's the weird part. | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here." So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?  | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome? "Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head? | |||
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"My point any politician who has security is briefed on what to do in an attack . Keep head , body out of view. So he decided twice to show head face etc and put his personnel at risk of being killed. He did not know the ‘shooter ‘ had been disabled ? So you think any security who have family perhaps . Yes know risk of job . But expect who are protecting do as required by them to do as required in event of any security breach ? He did know the shooter had been disabled. You can clearly here one of the secret service that was laid ontop of Trump on the floor say "shooter down" that's when they made the decision it was an appropriate moment to get the President up and move him to a secure location. Did Mr Trump know at that point that there were no other threats to him or his security team, there could have been others, seems silly behaviour on his part when surely the priority was getting all involved to a safe place, not making grandstanding gestures. His behaviour when being moved by his security team after being shot, is your main concern
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Where does it say it was my ‘main’ concern, oh, that’s right, it doesn’t
The fact he felt it was more appropriate to use the situation to grandstand rather than follow security procedures to ensure both himself and others came to no further harm was unnecessary. "You are judging the actions of a man, who is 78 years old, and has just been shot, absolutely unbelievable… | |||
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"My point any politician who has security is briefed on what to do in an attack . Keep head , body out of view. So he decided twice to show head face etc and put his personnel at risk of being killed. He did not know the ‘shooter ‘ had been disabled ? So you think any security who have family perhaps . Yes know risk of job . But expect who are protecting do as required by them to do as required in event of any security breach ? He did know the shooter had been disabled. You can clearly here one of the secret service that was laid ontop of Trump on the floor say "shooter down" that's when they made the decision it was an appropriate moment to get the President up and move him to a secure location. Did Mr Trump know at that point that there were no other threats to him or his security team, there could have been others, seems silly behaviour on his part when surely the priority was getting all involved to a safe place, not making grandstanding gestures. His behaviour when being moved by his security team after being shot, is your main concern
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Where does it say it was my ‘main’ concern, oh, that’s right, it doesn’t
The fact he felt it was more appropriate to use the situation to grandstand rather than follow security procedures to ensure both himself and others came to no further harm was unnecessary.
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"My point any politician who has security is briefed on what to do in an attack . Keep head , body out of view. So he decided twice to show head face etc and put his personnel at risk of being killed. He did not know the ‘shooter ‘ had been disabled ? So you think any security who have family perhaps . Yes know risk of job . But expect who are protecting do as required by them to do as required in event of any security breach ? He did know the shooter had been disabled. You can clearly here one of the secret service that was laid ontop of Trump on the floor say "shooter down" that's when they made the decision it was an appropriate moment to get the President up and move him to a secure location. Did Mr Trump know at that point that there were no other threats to him or his security team, there could have been others, seems silly behaviour on his part when surely the priority was getting all involved to a safe place, not making grandstanding gestures. His behaviour when being moved by his security team after being shot, is your main concern
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Where does it say it was my ‘main’ concern, oh, that’s right, it doesn’t
The fact he felt it was more appropriate to use the situation to grandstand rather than follow security procedures to ensure both himself and others came to no further harm was unnecessary.
You are judging the actions of a man, who is 78 years old, and has just been shot, absolutely unbelievable…
If his age is an issue perhaps he shouldn’t be standing for President. "His reaction and defiance after an attempted assassination tells me differently. It is a shame you can’t see past your bias. | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?"I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections? | |||
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Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?"Yeh, you seem to have read something else. I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for. Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was. I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck. | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck."I think the implication is that neither of their candidates are any good or "meaningful" in anyway. | |||
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"My point any politician who has security is briefed on what to do in an attack . Keep head , body out of view. So he decided twice to show head face etc and put his personnel at risk of being killed. He did not know the ‘shooter ‘ had been disabled ? So you think any security who have family perhaps . Yes know risk of job . But expect who are protecting do as required by them to do as required in event of any security breach ? He did know the shooter had been disabled. You can clearly here one of the secret service that was laid ontop of Trump on the floor say "shooter down" that's when they made the decision it was an appropriate moment to get the President up and move him to a secure location. Did Mr Trump know at that point that there were no other threats to him or his security team, there could have been others, seems silly behaviour on his part when surely the priority was getting all involved to a safe place, not making grandstanding gestures. His behaviour when being moved by his security team after being shot, is your main concern
Exactly..
Where does it say it was my ‘main’ concern, oh, that’s right, it doesn’t
The fact he felt it was more appropriate to use the situation to grandstand rather than follow security procedures to ensure both himself and others came to no further harm was unnecessary.
You are judging the actions of a man, who is 78 years old, and has just been shot, absolutely unbelievable…
If his age is an issue perhaps he shouldn’t be standing for President.
His reaction and defiance after an attempted assassination tells me differently. It is a shame you can’t see past your bias."You’ve just introduced his age as a defence against a point I raised, now you are saying his age is not a problem, make up your mind, or are you just using whatever take on it currently meets your bias. | |||
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Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck."Now you have elucidated, I can understand. I think that you're a minority here to consider two old men in a position of power. I, for one, am very glad we vote differently to the United States. Feel free though, to move there and then get yourself in a position to vote for a very OAP ... feel your boots. | |||
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"My point any politician who has security is briefed on what to do in an attack . Keep head , body out of view. So he decided twice to show head face etc and put his personnel at risk of being killed. He did not know the ‘shooter ‘ had been disabled ? So you think any security who have family perhaps . Yes know risk of job . But expect who are protecting do as required by them to do as required in event of any security breach ? He did know the shooter had been disabled. You can clearly here one of the secret service that was laid ontop of Trump on the floor say "shooter down" that's when they made the decision it was an appropriate moment to get the President up and move him to a secure location. Did Mr Trump know at that point that there were no other threats to him or his security team, there could have been others, seems silly behaviour on his part when surely the priority was getting all involved to a safe place, not making grandstanding gestures. His behaviour when being moved by his security team after being shot, is your main concern
Exactly..
Where does it say it was my ‘main’ concern, oh, that’s right, it doesn’t
The fact he felt it was more appropriate to use the situation to grandstand rather than follow security procedures to ensure both himself and others came to no further harm was unnecessary.
You are judging the actions of a man, who is 78 years old, and has just been shot, absolutely unbelievable…
If his age is an issue perhaps he shouldn’t be standing for President.
His reaction and defiance after an attempted assassination tells me differently. It is a shame you can’t see past your bias.
You’ve just introduced his age as a defence against a point I raised, now you are saying his age is not a problem, make up your mind, or are you just using whatever take on it currently meets your bias. "there is no defence from me, I was highlighting how outrageous your point is to think a person will act in a particular way after an assassination attempt on their life. I find it truly bizarre, that you can find such fault from such a scenario. Each to their own I guess. | |||
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"So much weird stuff in the details of the assassination attempt. Waiting for the first official investigation to complete. But this is going to be a hotbed of conspiracy theories for awhile. " Yeh seeing the far lefty loons claim its staged/fake. They sounding more like Alex Jones by the day. | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck."Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins. | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck.
Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins. "And they call those of us leaning to the left loonies | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck.
Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins.
And they call those of us leaning to the left loonies "Yes. | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck.
Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins.
And they call those of us leaning to the left loonies
Yes."Psychology has a good word for that: projection. | |||
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"Any comment from his buddy David Lammy yet We know the shooter was actually a registered republican…. And yet your whole contribution to the thread is to throw shade at the new foreign secretary for no reason to try to support so convoluted narrative in your head… Wow….. " To those unfamiliar with Pennsylvania's unique elections, they have what are known as "closed primaries", meaning you can only vote in your party's elections, which means that they can game the general elections by, more often than not, registering for the opposing party. In other words, in Pennsylvania it is extremely common (and widely encouraged) for democrats to register as republicans especially during primary season. This fact, and coupled with the fact that the shooter had previously donated money to Biden's campaign would suggest that he was, in fact, a Democrat supporter. But we shall see. | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck.
Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins.
And they call those of us leaning to the left loonies
Yes.
Psychology has a good word for that: projection."I never understand why people suggest that only "the left" are opposed to a world leader doing things like mocking a disabled reporter. Or saying thinks like "Mexicans, they're r4pists", or boasting about grabbing women by the pussy etc. Surely most people from across the political spectrum would think this isn't admirable behaviour. (We really need a shrug emoji). | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck.
Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins.
And they call those of us leaning to the left loonies
Yes.
Psychology has a good word for that: projection.
I never understand why people suggest that only "the left" are opposed to a world leader doing things like mocking a disabled reporter. Or saying thinks like "Mexicans, they're r4pists", or boasting about grabbing women by the pussy etc.
Surely most people from across the political spectrum would think this isn't admirable behaviour. (We really need a shrug emoji)."Lunacy is across the political spectrum. | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck.
Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins.
And they call those of us leaning to the left loonies "They do, and they are right. Another term for Donald will be good for the US. He will remove their forces from any conflict, reboot American industry, and build that wall. MAGA! | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck.
Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins.
And they call those of us leaning to the left loonies
They do, and they are right.
Another term for Donald will be good for the US. He will remove their forces from any conflict, reboot American industry, and build that wall. MAGA!"It won't be great if he manages to remove access to healthcare for millions of ordinary Americans. Or removes gun safety rules. Or gives himself more tax breaks. Energises Nazis again. Etc etc. | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck.
Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins.
And they call those of us leaning to the left loonies
They do, and they are right.
Another term for Donald will be good for the US. He will remove their forces from any conflict, reboot American industry, and build that wall. MAGA!
It won't be great if he manages to remove access to healthcare for millions of ordinary Americans. Or removes gun safety rules. Or gives himself more tax breaks. Energises Nazis again. Etc etc."Healthcare has always been accessible to poorer Americans, just not in the same way as it is here. Biden has done nothing for gun safety rules. And Nazis? WTF?? Trump to MAGA! | |||
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"Another term for Donald will be good for the US. He will remove their forces from any conflict, reboot American industry, and build that wall. MAGA!" 1. Removing forces from any conflict effectively means ceding power and control to those who remain. And in that vacuum, enemies of the USA will step in and fill the void. Eg, Wagner. Or other hostile states. . 2. Shareholders and companies make good money using overseas labour (eg China) to build western goods. The cost for labour in the US makes those businesses unable to operate using American labour which is far too expensive. Either prices go up to reflect the increased labour cost, or the business folds. IF prices go up, even less citizens in the USA will be able to afford the goods. Death spiral, basically. . 3. Build that wall. Against who, exactly ? I can't see hordes of people wanting to bankrupt themselves with a country in end-stage capitalism and terminal decline. They won't be able to afford to live there for starters. | |||
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"luckyily the extremist element this country just voted out won't have a chance to do any schmoozing with the extremist republican nominee if biden doesn't win a second term." What extremist element is this? The Tories? FFS grow up | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck.
Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins.
And they call those of us leaning to the left loonies
They do, and they are right.
Another term for Donald will be good for the US. He will remove their forces from any conflict, reboot American industry, and build that wall. MAGA!
It won't be great if he manages to remove access to healthcare for millions of ordinary Americans. Or removes gun safety rules. Or gives himself more tax breaks. Energises Nazis again. Etc etc."Oh Johnny, we're sorry...but you said if you were American you would have a candidate who was (meaningful I assume)... I'm interested to know how you would do that? | |||
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"luckyily the extremist element this country just voted out won't have a chance to do any schmoozing with the extremist republican nominee if biden doesn't win a second term. What extremist element is this? The Tories? FFS grow up" | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck.
Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins.
And they call those of us leaning to the left loonies
They do, and they are right.
Another term for Donald will be good for the US. He will remove their forces from any conflict, reboot American industry, and build that wall. MAGA!
It won't be great if he manages to remove access to healthcare for millions of ordinary Americans. Or removes gun safety rules. Or gives himself more tax breaks. Energises Nazis again. Etc etc.
Oh Johnny, we're sorry...but you said if you were American you would have a candidate who was (meaningful I assume)... I'm interested to know how you would do that? "Wrong poster. A new guy to the forum. | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck.
Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins.
And they call those of us leaning to the left loonies
They do, and they are right.
Another term for Donald will be good for the US. He will remove their forces from any conflict, reboot American industry, and build that wall. MAGA!
It won't be great if he manages to remove access to healthcare for millions of ordinary Americans. Or removes gun safety rules. Or gives himself more tax breaks. Energises Nazis again. Etc etc.
Oh Johnny, we're sorry...but you said if you were American you would have a candidate who was (meaningful I assume)... I'm interested to know how you would do that?
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck.
Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins.
And they call those of us leaning to the left loonies
They do, and they are right.
Another term for Donald will be good for the US. He will remove their forces from any conflict, reboot American industry, and build that wall. MAGA!
It won't be great if he manages to remove access to healthcare for millions of ordinary Americans. Or removes gun safety rules. Or gives himself more tax breaks. Energises Nazis again. Etc etc.
Healthcare has always been accessible to poorer Americans,
"Nope, they have an insurance based system. Obama care helped a little but hasn't been enough. Trump was trying to remove it during the worst pandemic in living memory. " just not in the same way as it is here. Biden has done nothing for gun safety rules. " Sure, Trump wants to loosen them further. " And Nazis? WTF?? " Charlotte NC. Feel free to see how Trump dealt with the Nazis who protested there. " Trump to MAGA!" More Nazis, more mass shootings, no healthcare for those who are shot, should do the trick! | |||
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck.
Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins.
And they call those of us leaning to the left loonies
They do, and they are right.
Another term for Donald will be good for the US. He will remove their forces from any conflict, reboot American industry, and build that wall. MAGA!
It won't be great if he manages to remove access to healthcare for millions of ordinary Americans. Or removes gun safety rules. Or gives himself more tax breaks. Energises Nazis again. Etc etc.
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"Having looked at the personal profile of the shooter and the weapon he used (AR15) this was clearly a disaffected youth attempting a mass shooting, not a trained assassin. Any person making a serious attempt at assasinating Trump from 120 to 150 metres away would have used a proper sniper rifle not a AR15. So, if the Democrats really wanted Trump shot, which President Biden can now order with impunity, they would have used a professional outside the controlled perimeter with the right weapon like a M24. This was an attempt at a mass shooting by a disaffected youth not an assassination attempt on Trump by the Democrats. However, the right wing will spin it as a an attempt by Biden to eliminate Trump and Trump's disciples will kneel to what they are told. The end result will probably be more attempts on Biden's life and anyone viewed as a political threat to Trump by Trump's mindless followers." Hitting Trump with a bullet seems like a very serious attempt at assassinating him! I'm not sure why you would say it wasn't, a few millimetres to the right and it could have ended very differently | |||
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"Having looked at the personal profile of the shooter and the weapon he used (AR15) this was clearly a disaffected youth attempting a mass shooting, not a trained assassin. Any person making a serious attempt at assasinating Trump from 120 to 150 metres away would have used a proper sniper rifle not a AR15. So, if the Democrats really wanted Trump shot, which President Biden can now order with impunity, they would have used a professional outside the controlled perimeter with the right weapon like a M24. This was an attempt at a mass shooting by a disaffected youth not an assassination attempt on Trump by the Democrats. However, the right wing will spin it as a an attempt by Biden to eliminate Trump and Trump's disciples will kneel to what they are told. The end result will probably be more attempts on Biden's life and anyone viewed as a political threat to Trump by Trump's mindless followers. Hitting Trump with a bullet seems like a very serious attempt at assassinating him! I'm not sure why you would say it wasn't, a few millimetres to the right and it could have ended very differently" Not a very good shot if at just 100 metres away. I had to hit a target 200 metres away with an iron sight | |||
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"Having looked at the personal profile of the shooter and the weapon he used (AR15) this was clearly a disaffected youth attempting a mass shooting, not a trained assassin. Any person making a serious attempt at assasinating Trump from 120 to 150 metres away would have used a proper sniper rifle not a AR15. So, if the Democrats really wanted Trump shot, which President Biden can now order with impunity, they would have used a professional outside the controlled perimeter with the right weapon like a M24. This was an attempt at a mass shooting by a disaffected youth not an assassination attempt on Trump by the Democrats. However, the right wing will spin it as a an attempt by Biden to eliminate Trump and Trump's disciples will kneel to what they are told. The end result will probably be more attempts on Biden's life and anyone viewed as a political threat to Trump by Trump's mindless followers. Hitting Trump with a bullet seems like a very serious attempt at assassinating him! I'm not sure why you would say it wasn't, a few millimetres to the right and it could have ended very differently" I do not deny the shooter tried to shoot Trump but he probably wanted to shoot a lot of others as well. Trump was just the big prize. The key point is it was yet another mass shooting, 303rd this year in the USA, not a targeted attempt at assasinating Trump. | |||
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"Having looked at the personal profile of the shooter and the weapon he used (AR15) this was clearly a disaffected youth attempting a mass shooting, not a trained assassin. Any person making a serious attempt at assasinating Trump from 120 to 150 metres away would have used a proper sniper rifle not a AR15. So, if the Democrats really wanted Trump shot, which President Biden can now order with impunity, they would have used a professional outside the controlled perimeter with the right weapon like a M24. This was an attempt at a mass shooting by a disaffected youth not an assassination attempt on Trump by the Democrats. However, the right wing will spin it as a an attempt by Biden to eliminate Trump and Trump's disciples will kneel to what they are told. The end result will probably be more attempts on Biden's life and anyone viewed as a political threat to Trump by Trump's mindless followers. Hitting Trump with a bullet seems like a very serious attempt at assassinating him! I'm not sure why you would say it wasn't, a few millimetres to the right and it could have ended very differently" I read serious more like professional in the context of the point they were making. | |||
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"Having looked at the personal profile of the shooter and the weapon he used (AR15) this was clearly a disaffected youth attempting a mass shooting, not a trained assassin. Any person making a serious attempt at assasinating Trump from 120 to 150 metres away would have used a proper sniper rifle not a AR15. So, if the Democrats really wanted Trump shot, which President Biden can now order with impunity, they would have used a professional outside the controlled perimeter with the right weapon like a M24. This was an attempt at a mass shooting by a disaffected youth not an assassination attempt on Trump by the Democrats. However, the right wing will spin it as a an attempt by Biden to eliminate Trump and Trump's disciples will kneel to what they are told. The end result will probably be more attempts on Biden's life and anyone viewed as a political threat to Trump by Trump's mindless followers. Hitting Trump with a bullet seems like a very serious attempt at assassinating him! I'm not sure why you would say it wasn't, a few millimetres to the right and it could have ended very differently Not a very good shot if at just 100 metres away. I had to hit a target 200 metres away with an iron sight" He was at 120 to 150 metres away., If he aimed for Trump's head, he was only 75mm off his target. But, as I said, the AR15 is designed to be a multiple shot rifle for assaults not sniping. | |||
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"Having looked at the personal profile of the shooter and the weapon he used (AR15) this was clearly a disaffected youth attempting a mass shooting, not a trained assassin. Any person making a serious attempt at assasinating Trump from 120 to 150 metres away would have used a proper sniper rifle not a AR15. So, if the Democrats really wanted Trump shot, which President Biden can now order with impunity, they would have used a professional outside the controlled perimeter with the right weapon like a M24. This was an attempt at a mass shooting by a disaffected youth not an assassination attempt on Trump by the Democrats. However, the right wing will spin it as a an attempt by Biden to eliminate Trump and Trump's disciples will kneel to what they are told. The end result will probably be more attempts on Biden's life and anyone viewed as a political threat to Trump by Trump's mindless followers. Hitting Trump with a bullet seems like a very serious attempt at assassinating him! I'm not sure why you would say it wasn't, a few millimetres to the right and it could have ended very differently I do not deny the shooter tried to shoot Trump but he probably wanted to shoot a lot of others as well. Trump was just the big prize. The key point is it was yet another mass shooting, 303rd this year in the USA, not a targeted attempt at assasinating Trump. " a mass shooting is what you think was on his mind, unless he left a note that is pure speculation. As for the distance and the rifle being used, he hit him and a fraction off being fatal, the person behind trump tragically lost their life. I'm just not understanding why it is being seen as something it wasn't, or why you feel "more attempts on Biden's life" will occur? When did the other attempts happen? | |||
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"Having looked at the personal profile of the shooter and the weapon he used (AR15) this was clearly a disaffected youth attempting a mass shooting, not a trained assassin. Any person making a serious attempt at assasinating Trump from 120 to 150 metres away would have used a proper sniper rifle not a AR15. So, if the Democrats really wanted Trump shot, which President Biden can now order with impunity, they would have used a professional outside the controlled perimeter with the right weapon like a M24. This was an attempt at a mass shooting by a disaffected youth not an assassination attempt on Trump by the Democrats. However, the right wing will spin it as a an attempt by Biden to eliminate Trump and Trump's disciples will kneel to what they are told. The end result will probably be more attempts on Biden's life and anyone viewed as a political threat to Trump by Trump's mindless followers. Hitting Trump with a bullet seems like a very serious attempt at assassinating him! I'm not sure why you would say it wasn't, a few millimetres to the right and it could have ended very differently I do not deny the shooter tried to shoot Trump but he probably wanted to shoot a lot of others as well. Trump was just the big prize. The key point is it was yet another mass shooting, 303rd this year in the USA, not a targeted attempt at assasinating Trump. " If it was merely a mass shooting the perp would have gone to a place with less security. | |||
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"I think the world would be better off if the assassination was successful." It's really not the way to do things, to think it's ok cos he or she is an arse or one of them is a pretty stupid idea .. If you think that it is then you need to reflect upon the fact that if such things are acceptable then so is someone doing serious harm to your loved ones 'just because'.. It's not btw.. | |||
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"I think the world would be better off if the assassination was successful." As awful as Trump is, the world would be worse if he would have been assassinated. The US would go bezerk and the Trump supporters would likely go on a rampage with their guns. | |||
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"The amount of people here (all lefties from what I can see) advocating murder, if frankly, fucking disgusting. I agree.. But it swings both ways sadly.. Yours, a centre lefty although notme thinks I'm a Tory.." There's no such thing as a 'centre lefty', I reserve 'leftie' for deranged far left, just as I reserve 'for right' for actual deranged far right. | |||
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"The amount of people here (all lefties from what I can see) advocating murder, if frankly, fucking disgusting. " Spot on | |||
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"From this thread and others I deduce all lefties advocate murder, all lefties are loonies, all lefties aren't charitable. What a load of absolute bs. All lefties swear (I'll give you that)
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"The amount of people here (all lefties from what I can see) advocating murder, if frankly, fucking disgusting. Spot on "I voted reform | |||
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"Biden donor in 2020. The mental gymnastics around registered republican is quite something on X. People only deal in absolutes and have no room for nuance. " If you want nuance… you say he was a Biden donor in 2020 In fact it turns out he once donated a whole 15 dollars to an independent group who were a Biden affiliated PAC (Political Action Committee) So… nuance again? Or are you also dealing in absolutes? We learned his dad was also a registered Republican, his mum is actually a registered democrat…. He himself registered republican | |||
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And I was born yesterday. Honest.
? Odd thing to say. Did you see my voting slip?
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I voted reform
And I was born yesterday. Honest.
? Odd thing to say. Did you see my voting slip?
Did I? I seen a few, not sure if any were yours.
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I voted reform
And I was born yesterday. Honest.
? Odd thing to say. Did you see my voting slip?
Did I? I seen a few, not sure if any were yours.
I doubt you did. You seem to have I'll deserved confidence in your abilities
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I voted reform
And I was born yesterday. Honest.
? Odd thing to say. Did you see my voting slip?
Did I? I seen a few, not sure if any were yours.
I doubt you did. You seem to have I'll deserved confidence in your abilities
You must be new round here. We'll have some fun
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I voted reform
And I was born yesterday. Honest.
? Odd thing to say. Did you see my voting slip?
Did I? I seen a few, not sure if any were yours.
I doubt you did. You seem to have I'll deserved confidence in your abilities
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"The amount of people here (all lefties from what I can see) advocating murder, if frankly, fucking disgusting. Spot on
I voted reform
And I was born yesterday. Honest.
? Odd thing to say. Did you see my voting slip?
Did I? I seen a few, not sure if any were yours.
I doubt you did. You seem to have I'll deserved confidence in your abilities
You must be new round here. We'll have some fun "I don't mind educating you though. I can give you homework too | |||
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"Biden donor in 2020. The mental gymnastics around registered republican is quite something on X. People only deal in absolutes and have no room for nuance. If you want nuance… you say he was a Biden donor in 2020 In fact it turns out he once donated a whole 15 dollars to an independent group who were a Biden affiliated PAC (Political Action Committee) So… nuance again? Or are you also dealing in absolutes? We learned his dad was also a registered Republican, his mum is actually a registered democrat…. He himself registered republican " Nope nuance. Keeping an open mind could be a myriad of reasons behind it all I don’t need to wet my pants over him being a republican to fit my world view like on X and I dare say on here it seems. | |||
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Did I? I seen a few, not sure if any were yours.
I doubt you did. You seem to have I'll deserved confidence in your abilities
You must be new round here. We'll have some fun
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"Damn people complaining about him fist bumping the air after surviving an assassination attempt. Do yall have no ability to recognise the situation, the adrenaline running through him. ‘yall,’ are you American? No but wish I was. I'd have a meaningful candidate to actually vote for in an election. Rather than the soppy-bollox WEF acolytes we have here. So if you were an American, you'd be able change the candidates all on your little lonesome?
Are you replying to something else? Or to a version of a message you made up in your head?
I'm responding to the impression you have given me .
I'll put it another way: how would you, on your lonesome, get a meaningful candidate to run in the presidential elections?
Yeh, you seem to have read something else.
I said that if I were American, that I'd actually have a meaningful candidate to vote for.
Meaning, we have no candidates here who are worth a vote. However, if I was American, then I would have a candidate who was.
I can't put the words into any other format for you to understand. Good luck.
Me too, I’d definitely vote Donald Trump. Hope he wins.
And they call those of us leaning to the left loonies
They do, and they are right.
Another term for Donald will be good for the US. He will remove their forces from any conflict, reboot American industry, and build that wall. MAGA!
It won't be great if he manages to remove access to healthcare for millions of ordinary Americans. Or removes gun safety rules. Or gives himself more tax breaks. Energises Nazis again. Etc etc.
Healthcare has always been accessible to poorer Americans,
Nope, they have an insurance based system. Obama care helped a little but hasn't been enough. Trump was trying to remove it during the worst pandemic in living memory.
just not in the same way as it is here. Biden has done nothing for gun safety rules.
Sure, Trump wants to loosen them further.
And Nazis? WTF??
Charlotte NC. Feel free to see how Trump dealt with the Nazis who protested there.
Trump to MAGA!
More Nazis, more mass shootings, no healthcare for those who are shot, should do the trick! "No nazis, just a lot of people who don’t agree with the official narrative. It’s just too easy for red scum to shout Nazi, or in this country the lisping screams of ‘nartsi.’ I have no time for the likes of Hope not Soap. They only give a shit about making names for themselves, even though they are rubbish journalists. | |||
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Did I? I seen a few, not sure if any were yours.
I doubt you did. You seem to have I'll deserved confidence in your abilities
You must be new round here. We'll have some fun
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"Too many on here are disappointed that the sniper didn’t kill the Trumpster. This obviously says more about them than it does him. With the demented president not wanting to stand down, and Donald a victim of an attempted assassination, it is obvious that the next president will be Trump. Our dick head prime minister will have to learn how to work with him, because he can put a lot of work and money our way." He won't put money any way unless it profits him. Bloody idiot, criminal, geriatric, self centred.......... | |||
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"Too many on here are disappointed that the sniper didn’t kill the Trumpster. This obviously says more about them than it does him. With the demented president not wanting to stand down, and Donald a victim of an attempted assassination, it is obvious that the next president will be Trump. Our dick head prime minister will have to learn how to work with him, because he can put a lot of work and money our way. He won't put money any way unless it profits him. Bloody idiot, criminal, geriatric, self centred.........." And bullet proof | |||
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