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"If the country was so upset with the government (and I was one of them) why did only 67% turn out to vote? Perhaps it should be a law like in many countries that you have to vote." Tory voters not voting was always going to bring down the % | |||
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"If the country was so upset with the government (and I was one of them) why did only 67% turn out to vote? Perhaps it should be a law like in many countries that you have to vote. Tory voters not voting was always going to bring down the %" The ID requirement backfired badly for the Tories. Elderly people turned away, but big increase in the youth vote. Rees-Mogg realised this. Massive own goal. | |||
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"If the country was so upset with the government (and I was one of them) why did only 67% turn out to vote? Perhaps it should be a law like in many countries that you have to vote. Tory voters not voting was always going to bring down the % The ID requirement backfired badly for the Tories. Elderly people turned away, but big increase in the youth vote. Rees-Mogg realised this. Massive own goal." I don't think elderly voters turned away due to ID. Majority of them are Tory voters who are pissed off with the Tories but also aren't bothered to vote Labour. | |||
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"If the country was so upset with the government (and I was one of them) why did only 67% turn out to vote? Perhaps it should be a law like in many countries that you have to vote. Tory voters not voting was always going to bring down the % The ID requirement backfired badly for the Tories. Elderly people turned away, but big increase in the youth vote. Rees-Mogg realised this. Massive own goal. I don't think elderly voters turned away due to ID. Majority of them are Tory voters who are pissed off with the Tories but also aren't bothered to vote Labour. "  | |||
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"If the country was so upset with the government (and I was one of them) why did only 67% turn out to vote? Perhaps it should be a law like in many countries that you have to vote." every poll.suggested a labour win, so I can imagine some people didn't bother. Especially on clear win seats. Some Tory voters possibly showed their dissatisfaction through not voting. | |||
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"Is not voting a form of voting? " It is but perhaps the voting card should have a 'none of the above" option which would take away the question of voter apathy and move it to dissatisfaction with the representatives presented. | |||
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"If the country was so upset with the government (and I was one of them) why did only 67% turn out to vote? Perhaps it should be a law like in many countries that you have to vote. Tory voters not voting was always going to bring down the % The ID requirement backfired badly for the Tories. Elderly people turned away, but big increase in the youth vote. Rees-Mogg realised this. Massive own goal." A polling station official was reported saying most of the people who were turned away were elderly not young. Yes there will be other factors but rather than clutching at straws Tories need to understand why their vote collapsed not seek to blame other factors which apply to all parties. | |||
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"If the country was so upset with the government (and I was one of them) why did only 67% turn out to vote? Perhaps it should be a law like in many countries that you have to vote. Tory voters not voting was always going to bring down the %" If it's 67%, that's a decrease of 0.3%  | |||
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"Is not voting a form of voting? " No. There'll be several reasons why people haven't voted: Apathy Indecision Lack of ID Disillusioned Ignorance Bound to be others. | |||
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"News story from ten minutes ago reads . . . --------------------------------------- 10m ago 11:53 Turnout well down on 2019 Turnout at this year's election is on course to be the lowest for more than 20 years. After 630 of 650 results had been declared, turnout stood at 59.8%. That compares to 67.3% in 2019. If this year's figure remains at 59.8%, it would be the lowest turnout at a general election since 2001, when it was 59.4%. The figures suggest there is not overwhelming enthusiasm for Sir Keir Starmer's incoming government. As Sky News's Sophy Ridge has reflected, Labour has "won two thirds of the seats with one third of the vote" ------------------------------------------------" Currently 60% When the country voted for brexit in the referendum, I recall turn out being higher than in GEs. It stands to reason the one issue GE 2019 would also be higher to get brexit done. Therefore it follows, turnout this GE be more on par as others, ie lower. Now I don't have the stats to prove it. Just mere logic. | |||
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" The figures suggest there is not overwhelming enthusiasm for Sir Keir Starmer's incoming government. " Turnout is 8% down on 2019 c.60% Turnover might be down because there is not overwhelming enthusiasm for Rishi Sunak's outgoing government! Con/Ref got 39%. Lab/LD got 48% of the vote. The right wing lost. Left wing won. Get over it! | |||
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"News story from ten minutes ago reads . . . --------------------------------------- 10m ago 11:53 Turnout well down on 2019 Turnout at this year's election is on course to be the lowest for more than 20 years. After 630 of 650 results had been declared, turnout stood at 59.8%. That compares to 67.3% in 2019. If this year's figure remains at 59.8%, it would be the lowest turnout at a general election since 2001, when it was 59.4%. The figures suggest there is not overwhelming enthusiasm for Sir Keir Starmer's incoming government. As Sky News's Sophy Ridge has reflected, Labour has "won two thirds of the seats with one third of the vote" ------------------------------------------------ Currently 60% When the country voted for brexit in the referendum, I recall turn out being higher than in GEs. It stands to reason the one issue GE 2019 would also be higher to get brexit done. Therefore it follows, turnout this GE be more on par as others, ie lower. Now I don't have the stats to prove it. Just mere logic." From the BBC: Turnout across the UK as a whole is 60%, the second lowest in a UK election since 1885. Only 2001 was lower with 59% | |||
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" The right wing lost. Left wing won. Get over it!" Best pass that on to Beth Rigby at SkyNews - Her story, after all.  | |||
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"News story from ten minutes ago reads . . . --------------------------------------- 10m ago 11:53 Turnout well down on 2019 Turnout at this year's election is on course to be the lowest for more than 20 years. After 630 of 650 results had been declared, turnout stood at 59.8%. That compares to 67.3% in 2019. If this year's figure remains at 59.8%, it would be the lowest turnout at a general election since 2001, when it was 59.4%. The figures suggest there is not overwhelming enthusiasm for Sir Keir Starmer's incoming government. As Sky News's Sophy Ridge has reflected, Labour has "won two thirds of the seats with one third of the vote" ------------------------------------------------ Currently 60% When the country voted for brexit in the referendum, I recall turn out being higher than in GEs. It stands to reason the one issue GE 2019 would also be higher to get brexit done. Therefore it follows, turnout this GE be more on par as others, ie lower. Now I don't have the stats to prove it. Just mere logic. From the BBC: Turnout across the UK as a whole is 60%, the second lowest in a UK election since 1885. Only 2001 was lower with 59% " My stats from statista states lowest 1918. | |||
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" The right wing lost. Left wing won. Get over it! Best pass that on to Beth Rigby at SkyNews - Her story, after all. "Why? She isn't posting on here you are! | |||
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" The right wing lost. Left wing won. Get over it! Best pass that on to Beth Rigby at SkyNews - Her story, after all.
Why? She isn't posting on here you are!"Because she posted the story at sky and I quoted her story here, that's why. So. Get over it, lol. | |||
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" The figures suggest there is not overwhelming enthusiasm for Sir Keir Starmer's incoming government. Turnout is 8% down on 2019 c.60% Turnover might be down because there is not overwhelming enthusiasm for Rishi Sunak's outgoing government! Con/Ref got 39%. Lab/LD got 48% of the vote. The right wing lost. Left wing won. Get over it!" Did you really just refer to the Labour Party as left wing!?! 
Starmer kicked all the socialist out years ago! | |||
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"60% of those did not want a Labour government. What a strange system we have." So? If the vote was 60-40, and 40 won, then it'd be strange. | |||
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" The right wing lost. Left wing won. Get over it! Best pass that on to Beth Rigby at SkyNews - Her story, after all.
Why? She isn't posting on here you are!
Because she posted the story at sky and I quoted her story here, that's why. So. Get over it, lol. "I'm not the one carping about Labour's landslide. I'm delighted especially seeing the Tory supporters on here in meltdown. You lost, we won get over it. | |||
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"60% of those did not want a Labour government. What a strange system we have." 56% of those who voted in 2019 didn't want a Tory Government and how right we proved to be. What a strange system we have. | |||
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" The right wing lost. Left wing won. Get over it! Best pass that on to Beth Rigby at SkyNews - Her story, after all.
Why? She isn't posting on here you are!
Because she posted the story at sky and I quoted her story here, that's why. So. Get over it, lol.
I'm not the one carping about Labour's landslide. I'm delighted especially seeing the Tory supporters on here in meltdown. You lost, we won get over it.
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"I can see the narrative forming… “The Tories only lost because turnout was low!” No, they lost. Had the arses handed to them on a plate. It needed to happen they were a busted flush and need time away from office to regroup and consider what they actually want to be. And being honest, they have left such a shitshow behind you have to wonder if they really wanted such a poison chalice?" Tut tut… if your supporters do not turn out and vote for you, you lose. | |||
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"I can see the narrative forming… “The Tories only lost because turnout was low!” No, they lost. Had the arses handed to them on a plate. It needed to happen they were a busted flush and need time away from office to regroup and consider what they actually want to be. And being honest, they have left such a shitshow behind you have to wonder if they really wanted such a poison chalice? Tut tut… if your supporters do not turn out and vote for you, you lose. " Then they are not your supporters 
They have withdrawn support but decided to also not lend it to anyone else! I’m going too see that as a mature and very British protest vote | |||
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"I can see the narrative forming… “The Tories only lost because turnout was low!” No, they lost. Had the arses handed to them on a plate. It needed to happen they were a busted flush and need time away from office to regroup and consider what they actually want to be. And being honest, they have left such a shitshow behind you have to wonder if they really wanted such a poison chalice? Tut tut… if your supporters do not turn out and vote for you, you lose. Then they are not your supporters
They have withdrawn support but decided to also not lend it to anyone else! I’m going too see that as a mature and very British protest vote "Of course it is, far too many Tory voters will not vote for another party and stay at home. Their supporters forced them out and this was well known, labour didn’t win the election by pulling in the voters, the tories lost the election by losing the support of their voters. | |||
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"In reality, if the turnout was 60% and 35 % of those that voted went for Labour, that means they had 21% of the potential vote. So 79% of the country didn't vote for them. A ringing endorsement " Sounds like a few other votes I could mention…but won’t | |||
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"I can see the narrative forming… “The Tories only lost because turnout was low!” No, they lost. Had the arses handed to them on a plate. It needed to happen they were a busted flush and need time away from office to regroup and consider what they actually want to be. And being honest, they have left such a shitshow behind you have to wonder if they really wanted such a poison chalice? Tut tut… if your supporters do not turn out and vote for you, you lose. Then they are not your supporters
They have withdrawn support but decided to also not lend it to anyone else! I’m going too see that as a mature and very British protest vote
Of course it is, far too many Tory voters will not vote for another party and stay at home. Their supporters forced them out and this was well known, labour didn’t win the election by pulling in the voters, the tories lost the election by losing the support of their voters. "Yep and losing the trust and patience of swing voters too! The Conservatives imploded! | |||
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"In reality, if the turnout was 60% and 35 % of those that voted went for Labour, that means they had 21% of the potential vote. So 79% of the country didn't vote for them. A ringing endorsement Sounds like a few other votes I could mention…but won’t "It's the usual argument from whatever side loses | |||
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"In reality, if the turnout was 60% and 35 % of those that voted went for Labour, that means they had 21% of the potential vote. So 79% of the country didn't vote for them. A ringing endorsement Sounds like a few other votes I could mention…but won’t
It's the usual argument from whatever side loses "Oh yes! | |||
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"I can see the narrative forming… “The Tories only lost because turnout was low!” No, they lost. Had the arses handed to them on a plate. It needed to happen they were a busted flush and need time away from office to regroup and consider what they actually want to be. And being honest, they have left such a shitshow behind you have to wonder if they really wanted such a poison chalice? Tut tut… if your supporters do not turn out and vote for you, you lose. Then they are not your supporters
They have withdrawn support but decided to also not lend it to anyone else! I’m going too see that as a mature and very British protest vote
Of course it is, far too many Tory voters will not vote for another party and stay at home. Their supporters forced them out and this was well known, labour didn’t win the election by pulling in the voters, the tories lost the election by losing the support of their voters.
Yep and losing the trust and patience of swing voters too! The Conservatives imploded!"Even if they had managed not to implode, there would have been a good chance they would have lost this election, the red wall had no further use of them | |||
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"I can see the narrative forming… “The Tories only lost because turnout was low!” No, they lost. Had the arses handed to them on a plate. It needed to happen they were a busted flush and need time away from office to regroup and consider what they actually want to be. And being honest, they have left such a shitshow behind you have to wonder if they really wanted such a poison chalice? Tut tut… if your supporters do not turn out and vote for you, you lose. Then they are not your supporters
They have withdrawn support but decided to also not lend it to anyone else! I’m going too see that as a mature and very British protest vote
Of course it is, far too many Tory voters will not vote for another party and stay at home. Their supporters forced them out and this was well known, labour didn’t win the election by pulling in the voters, the tories lost the election by losing the support of their voters.
Yep and losing the trust and patience of swing voters too! The Conservatives imploded!
Even if they had managed not to implode, there would have been a good chance they would have lost this election, the red wall had no further use of them "Well they COULD have delivered a Brexit that benefitted the Red Wallers as they had been led to believe but they started to realise the Tories used them like a kitchen roll to mop up after a sloppy facial then chucked in the bin* *I know that’s a bit graphic but let’s not forget what this site is really for! | |||
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"In reality, if the turnout was 60% and 35 % of those that voted went for Labour, that means they had 21% of the potential vote. So 79% of the country didn't vote for them. A ringing endorsement Sounds like a few other votes I could mention…but won’t
It's the usual argument from whatever side loses "Indeed it is but doesn't mean it's not right. The apathy that reflects the turnout is a bloody nose to the Tories, whilst labour have benefitted hugely from a lack of competence in government. After 5 years of labour , the same apathy may reappear but with the current system genuine votes will still not count | |||
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"In reality, if the turnout was 60% and 35 % of those that voted went for Labour, that means they had 21% of the potential vote. So 79% of the country didn't vote for them. A ringing endorsement Sounds like a few other votes I could mention…but won’t
It's the usual argument from whatever side loses
Indeed it is but doesn't mean it's not right. The apathy that reflects the turnout is a bloody nose to the Tories, whilst labour have benefitted hugely from a lack of competence in government.
After 5 years of labour , the same apathy may reappear but with the current system genuine votes will still not count "I give them two terms so 8-10yrs. | |||
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"In reality, if the turnout was 60% and 35 % of those that voted went for Labour, that means they had 21% of the potential vote. So 79% of the country didn't vote for them. A ringing endorsement Sounds like a few other votes I could mention…but won’t
It's the usual argument from whatever side loses
Indeed it is but doesn't mean it's not right. The apathy that reflects the turnout is a bloody nose to the Tories, whilst labour have benefitted hugely from a lack of competence in government.
After 5 years of labour , the same apathy may reappear but with the current system genuine votes will still not count "I'm not arguing against it. We seen it in 2016,2019,2024. We may well see Labour supporters use it in 2029. | |||
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"I can see the narrative forming… “The Tories only lost because turnout was low!” No, they lost. Had the arses handed to them on a plate. It needed to happen they were a busted flush and need time away from office to regroup and consider what they actually want to be. And being honest, they have left such a shitshow behind you have to wonder if they really wanted such a poison chalice?" I see what you've done there. You've made up something that you think a Tory might say, then you've attacked them for saying it. You'd get better responses to your point if you waited to see if anyone was going to say that, and then attacked them if they did. But that wouldn't allow you to do some more gloating would it. | |||
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" The right wing lost. Left wing won. Get over it! Best pass that on to Beth Rigby at SkyNews - Her story, after all.
Why? She isn't posting on here you are!
Because she posted the story at sky and I quoted her story here, that's why. So. Get over it, lol.
I'm not the one carping about Labour's landslide. I'm delighted especially seeing the Tory supporters on here in meltdown. You lost, we won get over it.
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"I can see the narrative forming… “The Tories only lost because turnout was low!” No, they lost. Had the arses handed to them on a plate. It needed to happen they were a busted flush and need time away from office to regroup and consider what they actually want to be. And being honest, they have left such a shitshow behind you have to wonder if they really wanted such a poison chalice? Tut tut… if your supporters do not turn out and vote for you, you lose. Then they are not your supporters
They have withdrawn support but decided to also not lend it to anyone else! I’m going too see that as a mature and very British protest vote
Of course it is, far too many Tory voters will not vote for another party and stay at home. Their supporters forced them out and this was well known, labour didn’t win the election by pulling in the voters, the tories lost the election by losing the support of their voters. "Copium is addictive stuff, be careful. | |||
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"I can see the narrative forming… “The Tories only lost because turnout was low!” No, they lost. Had the arses handed to them on a plate. It needed to happen they were a busted flush and need time away from office to regroup and consider what they actually want to be. And being honest, they have left such a shitshow behind you have to wonder if they really wanted such a poison chalice? I see what you've done there. You've made up something that you think a Tory might say, then you've attacked them for saying it. You'd get better responses to your point if you waited to see if anyone was going to say that, and then attacked them if they did. But that wouldn't allow you to do some more gloating would it." Good wasn’t it (that’s rhetorical as I know it was good) | |||
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"In reality, if the turnout was 60% and 35 % of those that voted went for Labour, that means they had 21% of the potential vote. So 79% of the country didn't vote for them. A ringing endorsement " On that basis around 85% didn't want another tory term. We can all play that game  | |||
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"I can see the narrative forming… “The Tories only lost because turnout was low!” No, they lost. Had the arses handed to them on a plate. It needed to happen they were a busted flush and need time away from office to regroup and consider what they actually want to be. And being honest, they have left such a shitshow behind you have to wonder if they really wanted such a poison chalice? Tut tut… if your supporters do not turn out and vote for you, you lose. Then they are not your supporters
They have withdrawn support but decided to also not lend it to anyone else! I’m going too see that as a mature and very British protest vote
Of course it is, far too many Tory voters will not vote for another party and stay at home. Their supporters forced them out and this was well known, labour didn’t win the election by pulling in the voters, the tories lost the election by losing the support of their voters.
Yep and losing the trust and patience of swing voters too! The Conservatives imploded!
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"Starmer got fewer votes than the Corbyn election - only 30 percent of total votes. "Gotta love that FPTP. Hands a super majority to such a small vote share. Hey at least you get stable govt right | |||
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"And if we had more parties, the percentage would be even lower. Even Raving Looney would get a seat." According to some on here they already did. About 410 seats! | |||
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"And if we had more parties, the percentage would be even lower. Even Raving Looney would get a seat. According to some on here they already did. About 410 seats!" lmao | |||
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"In reality, if the turnout was 60% and 35 % of those that voted went for Labour, that means they had 21% of the potential vote. So 79% of the country didn't vote for them. A ringing endorsement On that basis around 85% didn't want another tory term. We can all play that game "To assume is to make an arse out of u and me. I didn't say it didn't. What I have said is give us a fair system and you'll get a fair result | |||
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"Is not voting a form of voting? It is but perhaps the voting card should have a 'none of the above" option which would take away the question of voter apathy and move it to dissatisfaction with the representatives presented." I like this idea. I used to think a spoiled ballot sent that message but one of the political broadcasts i listen to said it doesn’t really it just gives the volunteers more work. If voting was mandatory &35% were spoiled that would for sure send a message | |||
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"In reality, if the turnout was 60% and 35 % of those that voted went for Labour, that means they had 21% of the potential vote. So 79% of the country didn't vote for them. A ringing endorsement On that basis around 85% didn't want another tory term. We can all play that game
To assume is to make an arse out of u and me. I didn't say it didn't. What I have said is give us a fair system and you'll get a fair result"An ASS out of U and ME surely | |||
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"If the country was so upset with the government (and I was one of them) why did only 67% turn out to vote? Perhaps it should be a law like in many countries that you have to vote." Why? Labour won, and the Tories were destroyed. ITs the result most people wanted, so forcing everyone to vote would not change that. People should have the right to choose. The freedom to decide for themselvs. Forcing people agasint their will to elect someone, seems rather... facist. | |||
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"Is not voting a form of voting? No. There'll be several reasons why people haven't voted: Apathy Indecision Lack of ID Disillusioned Ignorance Bound to be others." As someone who doesn't vote I can add to that list... Freedom of choice I dont want to. In order to vote, one must register and have all that information sent to Data traders, politicla parties and the likes of Cambridge analytica. I refuse to support those organisations and dont want my data shared, so dont register. | |||
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"Reform votes equivalent to 42% (4.1m) of Labour’s 9.7m votes" Reform only got 200,000 more votes than UKIP did in 2015, not a lot of progress in 9 years for the Farage party. | |||
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"Reform votes equivalent to 42% (4.1m) of Labour’s 9.7m votes Reform only got 200,000 more votes than UKIP did in 2015, not a lot of progress in 9 years for the Farage party." Retorm’s votes equivalent to 60% of Cons votes More than Lib Dem’s, and more than double Green Party. | |||
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"Reform votes equivalent to 42% (4.1m) of Labour’s 9.7m votes Reform only got 200,000 more votes than UKIP did in 2015, not a lot of progress in 9 years for the Farage party." And Labout got less than in 2017 and 2019. Is this now how we're judging progress? | |||
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"In reality, if the turnout was 60% and 35 % of those that voted went for Labour, that means they had 21% of the potential vote. So 79% of the country didn't vote for them. A ringing endorsement On that basis around 85% didn't want another tory term. We can all play that game
To assume is to make an arse out of u and me. I didn't say it didn't. What I have said is give us a fair system and you'll get a fair result"Apparently there was an opportunity to change the system in 2011. It didn't happen. | |||
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"In reality, if the turnout was 60% and 35 % of those that voted went for Labour, that means they had 21% of the potential vote. So 79% of the country didn't vote for them. A ringing endorsement On that basis around 85% didn't want another tory term. We can all play that game
To assume is to make an arse out of u and me. I didn't say it didn't. What I have said is give us a fair system and you'll get a fair result
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"Reform votes equivalent to 42% (4.1m) of Labour’s 9.7m votes Reform only got 200,000 more votes than UKIP did in 2015, not a lot of progress in 9 years for the Farage party. And Labout got less than in 2017 and 2019. Is this now how we're judging progress?" Nah, I was just watching everyone else clutching at straws and felt left out. | |||
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"Reform votes equivalent to 42% (4.1m) of Labour’s 9.7m votes Reform only got 200,000 more votes than UKIP did in 2015, not a lot of progress in 9 years for the Farage party. And Labout got less than in 2017 and 2019. Is this now how we're judging progress? Nah, I was just watching everyone else clutching at straws and felt left out." It's no different to what has happened after every election I remember, nor Brexit (still happens today). | |||
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"In reality, if the turnout was 60% and 35 % of those that voted went for Labour, that means they had 21% of the potential vote. So 79% of the country didn't vote for them. A ringing endorsement On that basis around 85% didn't want another tory term. We can all play that game
To assume is to make an arse out of u and me. I didn't say it didn't. What I have said is give us a fair system and you'll get a fair result
An ASS out of U and ME surely
The point is not ass or arse, but who was assuming... weird."Well from your post you were assuming that I'd voted for a losing party , yet I've never said how I voted, just that the system is corrupt. Blame the arse on auto carrot ?? | |||
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"If the country was so upset with the government (and I was one of them) why did only 67% turn out to vote? Perhaps it should be a law like in many countries that you have to vote." So if I'm away working how do you make it IN LAW you must vote? We have postal vote but with a snap GENERAL Election it hard if we go back to fixed term then you can plan for it. | |||
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"In reality, if the turnout was 60% and 35 % of those that voted went for Labour, that means they had 21% of the potential vote. So 79% of the country didn't vote for them. A ringing endorsement On that basis around 85% didn't want another tory term. We can all play that game
To assume is to make an arse out of u and me. I didn't say it didn't. What I have said is give us a fair system and you'll get a fair result
An ASS out of U and ME surely
The point is not ass or arse, but who was assuming... weird.
Well from your post you were assuming that I'd voted for a losing party , yet I've never said how I voted, just that the system is corrupt.
Blame the arse on auto carrot ?? "You inferred it, so the assumption was yours. I don't care how you voted. I'm just glad the twats are out  | |||
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