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"For the sake of polls.. for this they apparently talked to 48,000 people…. Projection…. Labour to win 431 seats Conservatives to win 102 seats Lib Dem to win 71 seats SNP to win 18 seats Reform to win 3 seats Greens to win 2 seat I think the more interesting is the lowest/highest seat projection for each party Lib Dem’s… lowest 57 highest 87 Conservatives… lowest 72 highest 180 Reform… lowest 0 highest 14 SNP… lowest 8 highest 35 Green.. lowest 0 highest 5 There are scenarios where the Lib Dem’s could be the official opposition…. " but what’s yr predictions _abio seen a poll that was %of votes had reform 20%cons16% I know that’s not the seats but it’s massive for politics if that’s how it turns out don’t ya think ? | |||
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"For the sake of polls.. for this they apparently talked to 48,000 people…. Projection…. Labour to win 431 seats Conservatives to win 102 seats Lib Dem to win 71 seats SNP to win 18 seats Reform to win 3 seats Greens to win 2 seat I think the more interesting is the lowest/highest seat projection for each party Lib Dem’s… lowest 57 highest 87 Conservatives… lowest 72 highest 180 Reform… lowest 0 highest 14 SNP… lowest 8 highest 35 Green.. lowest 0 highest 5 There are scenarios where the Lib Dem’s could be the official opposition…. " Quite a range there. Looks like a record breaking Labour majority come Friday. Lib dems being the official opposition could be interesting but at such a big majority for Labour it's basically no opposition at all | |||
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"Lib Dems polling 5% below Reform, getting 20-30 times the representation...no wonder they've shut up about PR" "Ensure no politician can take you for granted, by introducing proportional representation by the Single Transferable Vote for electing MPs, and local councillors in England.". - Liberal Democrat election manifesto. | |||
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"Lib Dems polling 5% below Reform, getting 20-30 times the representation...no wonder they've shut up about PR "Ensure no politician can take you for granted, by introducing proportional representation by the Single Transferable Vote for electing MPs, and local councillors in England.". - Liberal Democrat election manifesto." Let's not turn this into another spat but the layman works on the assumption that you get MPs based on your percentage of the vote and I sure the lib dems argued that until it stopped benefitting them | |||
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"Lib Dems polling 5% below Reform, getting 20-30 times the representation...no wonder they've shut up about PR "Ensure no politician can take you for granted, by introducing proportional representation by the Single Transferable Vote for electing MPs, and local councillors in England.". - Liberal Democrat election manifesto. Let's not turn this into another spat but the layman works on the assumption that you get MPs based on your percentage of the vote and I sure the lib dems argued that until it stopped benefitting them" We haven't had any spats. You accused me of a bunch of nonsense on a thread I wasn't involved in. I asked you to stop, you seem to have stopped. My reply here was just to point out that the lib Dems are still promoting PR, including in their election manifesto. | |||
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"Lib Dems polling 5% below Reform, getting 20-30 times the representation...no wonder they've shut up about PR "Ensure no politician can take you for granted, by introducing proportional representation by the Single Transferable Vote for electing MPs, and local councillors in England.". - Liberal Democrat election manifesto. Let's not turn this into another spat but the layman works on the assumption that you get MPs based on your percentage of the vote and I sure the lib dems argued that until it stopped benefitting them We haven't had any spats. You accused me of a bunch of nonsense on a thread I wasn't involved in. I asked you to stop, you seem to have stopped. My reply here was just to point out that the lib Dems are still promoting PR, including in their election manifesto." We've had spats JTN. Any accusation directed at you on one thread related to another thread as well you know. I'm pointing out that the current version of pr that the lib Dems is not the version of yesteryear to my recollection and the reason for that is obvious. Like it or lump it | |||
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"Lib Dems polling 5% below Reform, getting 20-30 times the representation...no wonder they've shut up about PR "Ensure no politician can take you for granted, by introducing proportional representation by the Single Transferable Vote for electing MPs, and local councillors in England.". - Liberal Democrat election manifesto. Let's not turn this into another spat but the layman works on the assumption that you get MPs based on your percentage of the vote and I sure the lib dems argued that until it stopped benefitting them We haven't had any spats. You accused me of a bunch of nonsense on a thread I wasn't involved in. I asked you to stop, you seem to have stopped. My reply here was just to point out that the lib Dems are still promoting PR, including in their election manifesto. We've had spats JTN. Any accusation directed at you on one thread related to another thread as well you know. " As long as you stop trying to name and shame me on some made up nonsense, on threads I'm not involved in. We're all good " I'm pointing out that the current version of pr that the lib Dems is not the version of yesteryear to my recollection and the reason for that is obvious. Like it or lump it" I have no personal opinion of their preferred version of PR. As mentioned, just pointing out that they are promoting it. | |||
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"I hope not, the last thing we need in this country is another elected party with a huge majority. That is what we got with Johnson’s Tories and we all know how that went. We don’t want to be stuck with Labour for 14 bloody years." My thoughts exactly, but I fear that's what is going to happen. | |||
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"I hope not, the last thing we need in this country is another elected party with a huge majority. That is what we got with Johnson’s Tories and we all know how that went. We don’t want to be stuck with Labour for 14 bloody years.they did the square root of fuck all and got voted out at the first opportunity. If we have labour for 14 years it's because that's what we would have voted for 3 times ! " This.. Been said before that oppositions don't win elections, incumbents lose them.. Happened to a point in 2010 but the Conservatives still had to scramble around and coerce the Lib Dems.. I think this time (and tend to agree that a massive majority isn't the best for keeping a government in check) there will be no need to form a coalition as the Tories really have reached the end of this sorry chapter.. | |||
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"I hear that labour are on course to get 280 seats, we will all see tomorrow." That sounds on the low side to some predictions I have read which show Labour above 400 seats. Maybe the meant a majority of 280, just a guess | |||
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