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By (user no longer on site) OP   
21 weeks ago

Some polling by JL Partners this week of voting intention of 16/17 year olds puts Reform in second place to Labour, on 23% compared to Labour’s 39%.

Will this be enough to deter Labour from implementing the policy?

Is reducing the voting age an easy win for more votes that Labour presumably is assuming?

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By *otMe66Man
21 weeks ago

Terra Firma

Correct, it is another way of securing a block of votes. The left love this idea, the sooner they can get the kids into government control the better.

I have my suspicions around GB Energy, creating 650,000 jobs with the unions, nice little voting block there.

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago

Labour support is about that of the country.

Rightwing support is a bit lower with the kids albeit more weighted towards reform.

That probably makes it overall favourable for labour.

Interestingly huge differences between male and female voting intentions.

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By *melie LALWoman
21 weeks ago

Peterborough

No please don't let 16 year olds vote, unless they bring in politics and economics into the school curriculum.

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By *irldnCouple
21 weeks ago

Brighton

Harmonise everything to 18, driving, alcoholing, smoking, working, marrying, sexing, soldiering, taxing, voting. The lot!

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By *erlins5Man
21 weeks ago

South Fife

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By *erlins5Man
21 weeks ago

South Fife

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South Fife

They can legally have sex and therefore kids at 16, which is a major thing, so why are they too immature to vote if they are (allegedly)mature enough to bring up a child ? They can work and pay tax as well, it is the youngsters country too

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By *ggdrasil66Man
21 weeks ago

Saltdean


"Harmonise everything to 18, driving, alcoholing, smoking, working, marrying, sexing, soldiering, taxing, voting. The lot!"

Agreed ????

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By *igNick1381Man
21 weeks ago

BRIDGEND

If you're old enough to pay taxes you're old enough to choose who spends those taxes

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By *lfasoCouple
21 weeks ago

South East

And old enough to be named in criminal proceedings.

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By *ortyairCouple
21 weeks ago

Wallasey


"And old enough to be named in criminal proceedings."
So are 10 year old, Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple
21 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Harmonise everything to 18, driving, alcoholing, smoking, working, marrying, sexing, soldiering, taxing, voting. The lot!"
Watched that new quiz with Ant & Dec and it said the minimum age to we'd has now changed to 18 years old.... So that must be right,

Mrs x

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By *irldnCouple
21 weeks ago

Brighton


"Harmonise everything to 18, driving, alcoholing, smoking, working, marrying, sexing, soldiering, taxing, voting. The lot!Watched that new quiz with Ant & Dec and it said the minimum age to we'd has now changed to 18 years old.... So that must be right,

Mrs x"

Used to be 16 with parental consent then 18 total personal decision but that got changed to 16.

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By *lfasoCouple
21 weeks ago

South East


"And old enough to be named in criminal proceedings.So are 10 year old, Mrs x"

When the defendant is a minor. In relation to under 18s in the Crown Court, S45 of the Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999 which came into force in April 2015, allows the criminal court to prevent the publication of anything that would identify that young person as a defendant, until that person reaches 18.

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By *lfasoCouple
21 weeks ago

South East


"If you're old enough to pay taxes you're old enough to choose who spends those taxes"

A 2 year old could also pay tax.

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By *irldnCouple
21 weeks ago

Brighton


"If you're old enough to pay taxes you're old enough to choose who spends those taxes

A 2 year old could also pay tax."

Arguably some already do through IHT (yes that is on the estate but the 2yr old won’t get it ultimately).

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
21 weeks ago

Hastings


"Harmonise everything to 18, driving, alcoholing, smoking, working, marrying, sexing, soldiering, taxing, voting. The lot!"

But they can be working at 16 and paying tax with no voice on how the tax is spent.

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By *lfasoCouple
21 weeks ago

South East


"Harmonise everything to 18, driving, alcoholing, smoking, working, marrying, sexing, soldiering, taxing, voting. The lot!

But they can be working at 16 and paying tax with no voice on how the tax is spent.

"

A two year old, perhaps orphaned at birth, would pay tax on any investment income earned from money lady by the deceased mother.

The tax rules do not alter with age. Sixteen year olds are no different from two year olds.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
21 weeks ago

Hastings


"Harmonise everything to 18, driving, alcoholing, smoking, working, marrying, sexing, soldiering, taxing, voting. The lot!

But they can be working at 16 and paying tax with no voice on how the tax is spent.

A two year old, perhaps orphaned at birth, would pay tax on any investment income earned from money lady by the deceased mother.

The tax rules do not alter with age. Sixteen year olds are no different from two year olds."

What not if you're working and paying income tax.

Are we trying to discourage 16 year olds from taking up apprenticeship, lots of the apprentices at work drive, and do so to get to site with there tools.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
21 weeks ago

Cumbria

No taxation without representation, as our American cousins say.

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By *lfasoCouple
21 weeks ago

South East


"Harmonise everything to 18, driving, alcoholing, smoking, working, marrying, sexing, soldiering, taxing, voting. The lot!

But they can be working at 16 and paying tax with no voice on how the tax is spent.

A two year old, perhaps orphaned at birth, would pay tax on any investment income earned from money lady by the deceased mother.

The tax rules do not alter with age. Sixteen year olds are no different from two year olds.

What not if you're working and paying income tax.

Are we trying to discourage 16 year olds from taking up apprenticeship, lots of the apprentices at work drive, and do so to get to site with there tools."

The tax rules do not change at 16. It is legal for 13 year olds to work and pay tax. 13 year olds earning from Youtube or any other activity are subject to exactly the same tax rules as everyone else. Your argument, if valid, would have to apply to children of any age.

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By *irldnCouple
21 weeks ago

Brighton


"Harmonise everything to 18, driving, alcoholing, smoking, working, marrying, sexing, soldiering, taxing, voting. The lot!

But they can be working at 16 and paying tax with no voice on how the tax is spent.

"

Keep everyone in education. Those who are more practical rather than academic focus on skills through apprenticeship type approach.

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By *2000ManMan
21 weeks ago

Worthing


"No please don't let 16 year olds vote, unless they bring in politics and economics into the school curriculum."

Good post and I totally agree. But would the school teachings be the views of the teacher giving the lessons?

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By *loscouplegl3Couple
21 weeks ago

Gloucester


"No please don't let 16 year olds vote, unless they bring in politics and economics into the school curriculum.

Good post and I totally agree. But would the school teachings be the views of the teacher giving the lessons?"

I assume there would be a set curriculum laid down by the DofE

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By *ortySwitchMan
21 weeks ago

london

Anyone who pays tax should be allowed to vote. And as 16 year olds are able to work and pay tax, they should be allowed the vote.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
21 weeks ago

Cumbria


"No please don't let 16 year olds vote, unless they bring in politics and economics into the school curriculum.

Good post and I totally agree. But would the school teachings be the views of the teacher giving the lessons?

I assume there would be a set curriculum laid down by the DofE"

Like Religious Studies.

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By *melie LALWoman
21 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Harmonise everything to 18, driving, alcoholing, smoking, working, marrying, sexing, soldiering, taxing, voting. The lot!Watched that new quiz with Ant & Dec and it said the minimum age to we'd has now changed to 18 years old.... So that must be right,

Mrs x"

It's always been 18. Under 18 needed consent of parent. No?

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By *melie LALWoman
21 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Harmonise everything to 18, driving, alcoholing, smoking, working, marrying, sexing, soldiering, taxing, voting. The lot!Watched that new quiz with Ant & Dec and it said the minimum age to we'd has now changed to 18 years old.... So that must be right,

Mrs x

Used to be 16 with parental consent then 18 total personal decision but that got changed to 16."

I should have scrolled further before posting

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
21 weeks ago

Gilfach


"Arguably some already do through IHT (yes that is on the estate but the 2yr old won’t get it ultimately)."

Inheritance tax isn't on the estate, it's on those who stand to inherit the money. But HMRC levy it on the estate to cut down on the dramatic evasion that would occur if they tried to collect it from the individuals.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
21 weeks ago

golden fields


"Some polling by JL Partners this week of voting intention of 16/17 year olds puts Reform in second place to Labour, on 23% compared to Labour’s 39%.

Will this be enough to deter Labour from implementing the policy?

Is reducing the voting age an easy win for more votes that Labour presumably is assuming?"

Has buck gone again?

Six weeks and he'll be back again.

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By *melie LALWoman
21 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Some polling by JL Partners this week of voting intention of 16/17 year olds puts Reform in second place to Labour, on 23% compared to Labour’s 39%.

Will this be enough to deter Labour from implementing the policy?

Is reducing the voting age an easy win for more votes that Labour presumably is assuming?

Has buck gone again?

Six weeks and he'll be back again."

He probably will return under original profile, or has made a new one to start soon

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
21 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Some polling by JL Partners this week of voting intention of 16/17 year olds puts Reform in second place to Labour, on 23% compared to Labour’s 39%.

Will this be enough to deter Labour from implementing the policy?

Is reducing the voting age an easy win for more votes that Labour presumably is assuming?

Has buck gone again?

Six weeks and he'll be back again.

He probably will return under original profile, or has made a new one to start soon "

This was my thought, the sock puppet has probably been sitting there for a couple of weeks already.

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