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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough

A couple of times LK told Pat Labour’s campaign manager to stop attacking the tories.

Sunak aggressively spoke over Laura countless times attacking Labour.

Earlier this morning on BBC 1 I heard a report that 90% of the Tory campaign has been spent attacking Labour. That sounds too high. But anyway, is this the sight and sounds of a losing party?

BTW Laura should have stopped Sunak sooner in his tracks, she did with Pat. Or is it my bias

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough

Tetchy Sunak- so labelled by Laura's panel. I just saw aggression.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
4 weeks ago

in Lancashire

The Tory party campaign launch spent time on attacking labour, not the best way to sell ones own vision but a sign of where they are ..

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Central

Laura's fairly poor at appearing impartial and not giving her leanings away

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
4 weeks ago

nearby


"The Tory party campaign launch spent time on attacking labour, not the best way to sell ones own vision but a sign of where they are .."

Exactly this

My neighbour stood for tory in council elections

Told me this morning tories are busted and he is voting reform on Thursday.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
4 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"The Tory party campaign launch spent time on attacking labour, not the best way to sell ones own vision but a sign of where they are ..

Exactly this

My neighbour stood for tory in council elections

Told me this morning tories are busted and he is voting reform on Thursday. "

It's apparent here that the difference in Tory support posters etc is stark compared to five years ago, seen more reform than Tory ones and more labour ..

It's a Tory majority of just over 11,000 ..

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By *irldnCouple
4 weeks ago

Brighton

It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
4 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards "

I think there's little chance of that, they think Sunak is a traitor and they look to be favouring reform..

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By *irldnCouple
4 weeks ago

Brighton


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I think there's little chance of that, they think Sunak is a traitor and they look to be favouring reform.."

You’d think they might be magnanimous. Credit where it is due after all

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
4 weeks ago

golden fields


"The Tory party campaign launch spent time on attacking labour, not the best way to sell ones own vision but a sign of where they are .."

Although in fairness, it works. Look how many people on here believe the most random rhubarb you could ever imagine about Labour.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
4 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"The Tory party campaign launch spent time on attacking labour, not the best way to sell ones own vision but a sign of where they are ..

Although in fairness, it works. Look how many people on here believe the most random rhubarb you could ever imagine about Labour."

Can't argue with that, just wonder how that sort of strategy goes down with their own candidates many of them new ..

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By *roadShoulderzMan
4 weeks ago

Petersfield


"Tetchy Sunak- so labelled by Laura's panel. I just saw aggression. "

Me too, to the point of being rude.

He also appears to be a lone figure, supported by a few half-witted advisors, whilst the rest of the cabinet are either plotting against him, or knocking on doors in the hopeless search for a Tory supporter.

But then again Sunk is very clear he is going to win. We shall see...

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
4 weeks ago

golden fields


"The Tory party campaign launch spent time on attacking labour, not the best way to sell ones own vision but a sign of where they are ..

Although in fairness, it works. Look how many people on here believe the most random rhubarb you could ever imagine about Labour.

Can't argue with that, just wonder how that sort of strategy goes down with their own candidates many of them new .."

Depends if any of them have any integrity.

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By (user no longer on site)
4 weeks ago


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards "

A Labour victory will just be a sign that the electorate are thick, gullible, and have been misled by lies and probably foreign interference. A second vote will need to be held in 12 months’ time to determine whether they really knew what they were voting for.

Also, given that Labour’s vote share will be a small percentage of those entitled to vote, they will have zero mandate.

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By *ortyairCouple
4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

A Labour victory will just be a sign that the electorate are thick, gullible, and have been misled by lies and probably foreign interference. A second vote will need to be held in 12 months’ time to determine whether they really knew what they were voting for.

Also, given that Labour’s vote share will be a small percentage of those entitled to vote, they will have zero mandate."

Are they really thick. Sure someone quite clever once said the definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome. Just think the electorate have had enough of the last 14 years of Tory mismanagement. Sick of being taxed more than even. Taxed more than anyone in living memory. That doesn't sound so thick.

As for a new vote in 12 months, is that how the system really works in the UK? Given that Labour are predicted for a large majority not sure your prediction will prove accurate.

As for not having a mandate, they will. It's not the winners fault it's the fault of the system. Hate the game not the players and enjoy the next 5 years at least.

Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple
4 weeks ago

Wallasey

Sorry missed the foreign influence, not sure what you are referring to, unless it's European politicians disgust at Sunak fucking off early from the D Day commemoration, Mrs x

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By *idnight RamblerMan
4 weeks ago

Pershore


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

A Labour victory will just be a sign that the electorate are thick, gullible, and have been misled by lies and probably foreign interference. A second vote will need to be held in 12 months’ time to determine whether they really knew what they were voting for.

Also, given that Labour’s vote share will be a small percentage of those entitled to vote, they will have zero mandate."

Maybe it could be claimed a Labour victory was 'just advisory' and any areas of the country not red can declare independence?

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By *ortyairCouple
4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

A Labour victory will just be a sign that the electorate are thick, gullible, and have been misled by lies and probably foreign interference. A second vote will need to be held in 12 months’ time to determine whether they really knew what they were voting for.

Also, given that Labour’s vote share will be a small percentage of those entitled to vote, they will have zero mandate.

Maybe it could be claimed a Labour victory was 'just advisory' and any areas of the country not red can declare independence?"

LOL, Mrs x

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By *idnight RamblerMan
4 weeks ago

Pershore

You see, it CAN be done!! Rishi just needs a last minute overhead kick like Bellingham's!!

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By (user no longer on site)
4 weeks ago


"You see, it CAN be done!! Rishi just needs a last minute overhead kick like Bellingham's!!"

I think Rishi’s life will be much more enjoyable and productive if he loses.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
4 weeks ago

Pershore


"You see, it CAN be done!! Rishi just needs a last minute overhead kick like Bellingham's!!

I think Rishi’s life will be much more enjoyable and productive if he loses."

I agree, he's probably praying he loses his seat and earn £1mil. a pop for after-dinner speeches.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
4 weeks ago

Cumbria

Of course he is tetchy, he’s a Tory, and Tories know that they are born to rule, not be questioned by the plebs.

How dare anyone criticise him.

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By *altenkommandoMan
4 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Of course he is tetchy, he’s a Tory, and Tories know that they are born to rule, not be questioned by the plebs.

How dare anyone criticise him."

Like “The Lady Nugee” (to give Thornberry her proper title) and Keith Starmer and the rest of the IIslington posh public schoolboys that want to pull the ladder up behind them you mean?

There’s more “working class” and ex-service personell in the Tory rank and file than you will ever get in Liarbour.

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By *irldnCouple
4 weeks ago

Brighton


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

A Labour victory will just be a sign that the electorate are thick, gullible, and have been misled by lies and probably foreign interference. A second vote will need to be held in 12 months’ time to determine whether they really knew what they were voting for.

Also, given that Labour’s vote share will be a small percentage of those entitled to vote, they will have zero mandate."

I see what you did there

Seems you’ve been around these forums a lot over a long period despite your profile only being a few weeks old. Wonder who you were previously hmmmmm?

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By *irldnCouple
4 weeks ago

Brighton


"You see, it CAN be done!! Rishi just needs a last minute overhead kick like Bellingham's!!

I think Rishi’s life will be much more enjoyable and productive if he loses.

I agree, he's probably praying he loses his seat and earn £1mil. a pop for after-dinner speeches."

Yep just as one gravy train grinds to a stuttering halt another is preparing to speed out of the station. I bet his wife and in-laws are like “well we did warn you! Time to get back to earning serious wedge”

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By (user no longer on site)
4 weeks ago


"Of course he is tetchy, he’s a Tory, and Tories know that they are born to rule, not be questioned by the plebs.

How dare anyone criticise him."

Definitely looking forward to all the new Labour MP’s regaling us with their tales of life down the pits before they were elected.

Or should that be tales of three years at Oxford, one year at Yale and a six month Labour internship, all paid for by mater and payer.

All part of the Designer Socialist Career.

At least there will be no urgent need for the taxpayer to buy them a London house: daddy already bought them one!

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
4 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Of course he is tetchy, he’s a Tory, and Tories know that they are born to rule, not be questioned by the plebs.

How dare anyone criticise him.

Like “The Lady Nugee” (to give Thornberry her proper title) and Keith Starmer and the rest of the IIslington posh public schoolboys that want to pull the ladder up behind them you mean?

There’s more “working class” and ex-service personell in the Tory rank and file than you will ever get in Liarbour. "

Which public schools did Starmer and Thornberry go to?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
4 weeks ago

golden fields


"Of course he is tetchy, he’s a Tory, and Tories know that they are born to rule, not be questioned by the plebs.

How dare anyone criticise him.

Definitely looking forward to all the new Labour MP’s regaling us with their tales of life down the pits before they were elected.

Or should that be tales of three years at Oxford, one year at Yale and a six month Labour internship, all paid for by mater and payer.

All part of the Designer Socialist Career.

At least there will be no urgent need for the taxpayer to buy them a London house: daddy already bought them one!"

Solid "what about Labour" point.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
4 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Of course he is tetchy, he’s a Tory, and Tories know that they are born to rule, not be questioned by the plebs.

How dare anyone criticise him.

Definitely looking forward to all the new Labour MP’s regaling us with their tales of life down the pits before they were elected.

Or should that be tales of three years at Oxford, one year at Yale and a six month Labour internship, all paid for by mater and payer.

All part of the Designer Socialist Career.

At least there will be no urgent need for the taxpayer to buy them a London house: daddy already bought them one!

Solid "what about Labour" point. "

It’s literally all the right have got.

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By (user no longer on site)
4 weeks ago


"Of course he is tetchy, he’s a Tory, and Tories know that they are born to rule, not be questioned by the plebs.

How dare anyone criticise him.

Definitely looking forward to all the new Labour MP’s regaling us with their tales of life down the pits before they were elected.

Or should that be tales of three years at Oxford, one year at Yale and a six month Labour internship, all paid for by mater and payer.

All part of the Designer Socialist Career.

At least there will be no urgent need for the taxpayer to buy them a London house: daddy already bought them one!

Solid "what about Labour" point. "

Oh yes I forgot your forum rules:

We can only talk about:

Labour and the Greens if it’s positive

Tories or Reform if it’s negative

“Racism” (but not antisemitism)

ThE sCiEnCe

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
4 weeks ago

golden fields


"Of course he is tetchy, he’s a Tory, and Tories know that they are born to rule, not be questioned by the plebs.

How dare anyone criticise him.

Definitely looking forward to all the new Labour MP’s regaling us with their tales of life down the pits before they were elected.

Or should that be tales of three years at Oxford, one year at Yale and a six month Labour internship, all paid for by mater and payer.

All part of the Designer Socialist Career.

At least there will be no urgent need for the taxpayer to buy them a London house: daddy already bought them one!

Solid "what about Labour" point.

Oh yes I forgot your forum rules:

We can only talk about:

Labour and the Greens if it’s positive

Tories or Reform if it’s negative

“Racism” (but not antisemitism)

ThE sCiEnCe"

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

A Labour victory will just be a sign that the electorate are thick, gullible, and have been misled by lies and probably foreign interference. A second vote will need to be held in 12 months’ time to determine whether they really knew what they were voting for.

Also, given that Labour’s vote share will be a small percentage of those entitled to vote, they will have zero mandate."

Hi brother Grimm

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By *idnight RamblerMan
4 weeks ago

Pershore


"Of course he is tetchy, he’s a Tory, and Tories know that they are born to rule, not be questioned by the plebs.

How dare anyone criticise him.

Definitely looking forward to all the new Labour MP’s regaling us with their tales of life down the pits before they were elected.

Or should that be tales of three years at Oxford, one year at Yale and a six month Labour internship, all paid for by mater and payer.

All part of the Designer Socialist Career.

At least there will be no urgent need for the taxpayer to buy them a London house: daddy already bought them one!"

Champagne Socialists coming? Christ, run for the hills!!

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By *va_NightingaleTV/TS
4 weeks ago

North Manchester


"Of course he is tetchy, he’s a Tory, and Tories know that they are born to rule, not be questioned by the plebs.

How dare anyone criticise him.

Definitely looking forward to all the new Labour MP’s regaling us with their tales of life down the pits before they were elected.

Or should that be tales of three years at Oxford, one year at Yale and a six month Labour internship, all paid for by mater and payer.

All part of the Designer Socialist Career.

At least there will be no urgent need for the taxpayer to buy them a London house: daddy already bought them one!

Solid "what about Labour" point.

Oh yes I forgot your forum rules:

We can only talk about:

Labour and the Greens if it’s positive

Tories or Reform if it’s negative

“Racism” (but not antisemitism)

ThE sCiEnCe"

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards "

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

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By *estivalMan
4 weeks ago

borehamwood


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards "
you do realise starmer will only be getting a massive majority for the exact same reason bozo got one not because hes any good just because the other side are so shit

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government."

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards you do realise starmer will only be getting a massive majority for the exact same reason bozo got one not because hes any good just because the other side are so shit"

Bojo's win was a one issue election - brexit.

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )"

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

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By *irldnCouple
4 weeks ago

Brighton


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards you do realise starmer will only be getting a massive majority for the exact same reason bozo got one not because hes any good just because the other side are so shit"

I do. But the regular poster who lauds 80 seat majorities as proof of success for Johnson will need to change their success criteria if they do not equally acknowledge Starmer’s majority.

I for one fear any significant majority as it stops govt being held to account or more extreme policies being challenged.

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By *irldnCouple
4 weeks ago

Brighton


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

"

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters "

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on.

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters "

As we saw with partygate vs curry gate (with the latter cleared), Labour will face criticism for less infringements. We also see that with betting gate

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By *irldnCouple
4 weeks ago

Brighton


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on."

I know but why? What is it that causes parties to not be able to stay in Govt for more than 3 terms? What happens?

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on."

And we can be thankful as by the third term complacency kicks in. I'd dread to think what would kick in during a fourth term, dictatorship/fascism/return to serfdom for the minions?

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

As we saw with partygate vs curry gate (with the latter cleared), Labour will face criticism for less infringements. We also see that with betting gate "

The shoe will be on the other foot now. The party in power will always face more scrutiny.

The light will flicker for a while and at some point over the next 12 months, it will become a spotlight on labour.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
4 weeks ago

Cumbria


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards you do realise starmer will only be getting a massive majority for the exact same reason bozo got one not because hes any good just because the other side are so shit

I do. But the regular poster who lauds 80 seat majorities as proof of success for Johnson will need to change their success criteria if they do not equally acknowledge Starmer’s majority.

I for one fear any significant majority as it stops govt being held to account or more extreme policies being challenged."

But Boris is an inspirational leader etc. his 80 seat triumph showed us that!

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on.

I know but why? What is it that causes parties to not be able to stay in Govt for more than 3 terms? What happens?"

Power corrupts.

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on.

And we can be thankful as by the third term complacency kicks in. I'd dread to think what would kick in during a fourth term, dictatorship/fascism/return to serfdom for the minions?"

None of the above, by the end of a third term most parties have exhausted their talent and the drive to succeed with it.

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

As we saw with partygate vs curry gate (with the latter cleared), Labour will face criticism for less infringements. We also see that with betting gate

The shoe will be on the other foot now. The party in power will always face more scrutiny.

The light will flicker for a while and at some point over the next 12 months, it will become a spotlight on labour. "

BS I've pointed out labour have already faced more scrutiny for less... or the typical whataboutery that this forum (and media) loves.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
4 weeks ago

Cumbria


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

As we saw with partygate vs curry gate (with the latter cleared), Labour will face criticism for less infringements. We also see that with betting gate

The shoe will be on the other foot now. The party in power will always face more scrutiny.

The light will flicker for a while and at some point over the next 12 months, it will become a spotlight on labour. "

It’s ok, they can just blame everything on the Tories and the people on here who have been blaming the last Labour government for everything will agree.

What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
4 weeks ago

golden fields


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

As we saw with partygate vs curry gate (with the latter cleared), Labour will face criticism for less infringements. We also see that with betting gate

The shoe will be on the other foot now. The party in power will always face more scrutiny.

The light will flicker for a while and at some point over the next 12 months, it will become a spotlight on labour. "

This will make for more interesting debates on here. Hopefully.

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By *irldnCouple
4 weeks ago

Brighton


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards you do realise starmer will only be getting a massive majority for the exact same reason bozo got one not because hes any good just because the other side are so shit

I do. But the regular poster who lauds 80 seat majorities as proof of success for Johnson will need to change their success criteria if they do not equally acknowledge Starmer’s majority.

I for one fear any significant majority as it stops govt being held to account or more extreme policies being challenged.

But Boris is an inspirational leader etc. his 80 seat triumph showed us that!"

Hmmm something tangential about rational people, real world, and motorbility scheme.

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on.

I know but why? What is it that causes parties to not be able to stay in Govt for more than 3 terms? What happens?"

Talent dries up, unresolved issues and a will to continue against the tide of discontent.

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By *irldnCouple
4 weeks ago

Brighton


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on.

And we can be thankful as by the third term complacency kicks in. I'd dread to think what would kick in during a fourth term, dictatorship/fascism/return to serfdom for the minions?

None of the above, by the end of a third term most parties have exhausted their talent and the drive to succeed with it.

"

But why?

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards you do realise starmer will only be getting a massive majority for the exact same reason bozo got one not because hes any good just because the other side are so shit

I do. But the regular poster who lauds 80 seat majorities as proof of success for Johnson will need to change their success criteria if they do not equally acknowledge Starmer’s majority.

I for one fear any significant majority as it stops govt being held to account or more extreme policies being challenged.

But Boris is an inspirational leader etc. his 80 seat triumph showed us that!

Hmmm something tangential about rational people, real world, and motorbility scheme."

Wtf?

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By *irldnCouple
4 weeks ago

Brighton

If our favourite poster doesn’t start another new profile this time lampooning Labour through unrelenting support and a switch from The Daily Mail to The Guardian (or The Mirror) for evidence, I for one am going to be so disappointed!

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on.

I know but why? What is it that causes parties to not be able to stay in Govt for more than 3 terms? What happens?

Talent dries up, unresolved issues and a will to continue against the tide of discontent."

But! But as ministers are shuffled and reshuffled, we see more yes men at the table and dissenting back benchers. The fear is the yes men could lend towards what I previously stated.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
4 weeks ago

golden fields


"If our favourite poster doesn’t start another new profile this time lampooning Labour through unrelenting support and a switch from The Daily Mail to The Guardian (or The Mirror) for evidence, I for one am going to be so disappointed!"

This is the dream scenario, and potentially the biggest improvement to life in Britain that we can look forward to with a change of government.

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on.

And we can be thankful as by the third term complacency kicks in. I'd dread to think what would kick in during a fourth term, dictatorship/fascism/return to serfdom for the minions?

None of the above, by the end of a third term most parties have exhausted their talent and the drive to succeed with it.

But why?"

You know that sinking feeling when something has been worked on for far to long, it started off with bang and begins to fizzle out as the expectation is overwhelmed by assumptions and dependencies as the clock ticks into another year?

People leave for new horizons and with it the original direction, we set sail on new course but it is not long before those that remain, usually the inept, start to undermine the new direction and then it begins, the rot starts to set.

The public will then want change as it is better than changing course yet again, on the same ship that didn't get us anywhere in the past.

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By *irldnCouple
4 weeks ago

Brighton


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on.

And we can be thankful as by the third term complacency kicks in. I'd dread to think what would kick in during a fourth term, dictatorship/fascism/return to serfdom for the minions?

None of the above, by the end of a third term most parties have exhausted their talent and the drive to succeed with it.

But why?

You know that sinking feeling when something has been worked on for far to long, it started off with bang and begins to fizzle out as the expectation is overwhelmed by assumptions and dependencies as the clock ticks into another year?

People leave for new horizons and with it the original direction, we set sail on new course but it is not long before those that remain, usually the inept, start to undermine the new direction and then it begins, the rot starts to set.

The public will then want change as it is better than changing course yet again, on the same ship that didn't get us anywhere in the past.

"

Fuck that’s bleak

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By *ortyairCouple
4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on.

And we can be thankful as by the third term complacency kicks in. I'd dread to think what would kick in during a fourth term, dictatorship/fascism/return to serfdom for the minions?

None of the above, by the end of a third term most parties have exhausted their talent and the drive to succeed with it.

But why?

You know that sinking feeling when something has been worked on for far to long, it started off with bang and begins to fizzle out as the expectation is overwhelmed by assumptions and dependencies as the clock ticks into another year?

People leave for new horizons and with it the original direction, we set sail on new course but it is not long before those that remain, usually the inept, start to undermine the new direction and then it begins, the rot starts to set.

The public will then want change as it is better than changing course yet again, on the same ship that didn't get us anywhere in the past.

"

Love a boat analogy, especially if it's a cruise, but not sure about this one.

Not sure who the players are supposed to be, where the boats going or who the inept are. But love a good boat story, is there a drinks package involved or has it all been d*unk already.

But hey ho, ship ahoy, let's set sail on the good ship, oh yeah not sure what the ships called, here's to a lovely trip.

Mrs x

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on.

And we can be thankful as by the third term complacency kicks in. I'd dread to think what would kick in during a fourth term, dictatorship/fascism/return to serfdom for the minions?

None of the above, by the end of a third term most parties have exhausted their talent and the drive to succeed with it.

But why?

You know that sinking feeling when something has been worked on for far to long, it started off with bang and begins to fizzle out as the expectation is overwhelmed by assumptions and dependencies as the clock ticks into another year?

People leave for new horizons and with it the original direction, we set sail on new course but it is not long before those that remain, usually the inept, start to undermine the new direction and then it begins, the rot starts to set.

The public will then want change as it is better than changing course yet again, on the same ship that didn't get us anywhere in the past.

Love a boat analogy, especially if it's a cruise, but not sure about this one.

Not sure who the players are supposed to be, where the boats going or who the inept are. But love a good boat story, is there a drinks package involved or has it all been d*unk already.

But hey ho, ship ahoy, let's set sail on the good ship, oh yeah not sure what the ships called, here's to a lovely trip.

Mrs x"

The drinks package was consumed by the ships company during a period of scabies, when all passengers were confined to their cabins.

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"If our favourite poster doesn’t start another new profile this time lampooning Labour through unrelenting support and a switch from The Daily Mail to The Guardian (or The Mirror) for evidence, I for one am going to be so disappointed!

This is the dream scenario, and potentially the biggest improvement to life in Britain that we can look forward to with a change of government. "

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on.

And we can be thankful as by the third term complacency kicks in. I'd dread to think what would kick in during a fourth term, dictatorship/fascism/return to serfdom for the minions?

None of the above, by the end of a third term most parties have exhausted their talent and the drive to succeed with it.

But why?

You know that sinking feeling when something has been worked on for far to long, it started off with bang and begins to fizzle out as the expectation is overwhelmed by assumptions and dependencies as the clock ticks into another year?

People leave for new horizons and with it the original direction, we set sail on new course but it is not long before those that remain, usually the inept, start to undermine the new direction and then it begins, the rot starts to set.

The public will then want change as it is better than changing course yet again, on the same ship that didn't get us anywhere in the past.

Fuck that’s bleak "

No, it's a signal that change IS needed.

We, do of course, have other signals such as a global or rather western recession that most countries blame on the incumbent govt. Yet that was more to do with banks, markets, greed. IE capitalists.

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on.

And we can be thankful as by the third term complacency kicks in. I'd dread to think what would kick in during a fourth term, dictatorship/fascism/return to serfdom for the minions?

None of the above, by the end of a third term most parties have exhausted their talent and the drive to succeed with it.

But why?

You know that sinking feeling when something has been worked on for far to long, it started off with bang and begins to fizzle out as the expectation is overwhelmed by assumptions and dependencies as the clock ticks into another year?

People leave for new horizons and with it the original direction, we set sail on new course but it is not long before those that remain, usually the inept, start to undermine the new direction and then it begins, the rot starts to set.

The public will then want change as it is better than changing course yet again, on the same ship that didn't get us anywhere in the past.

Love a boat analogy, especially if it's a cruise, but not sure about this one.

Not sure who the players are supposed to be, where the boats going or who the inept are. But love a good boat story, is there a drinks package involved or has it all been d*unk already.

But hey ho, ship ahoy, let's set sail on the good ship, oh yeah not sure what the ships called, here's to a lovely trip.

Mrs x"

Just not a small boat

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards

I'm not equating a new government under labour as a labour win, it is a conservative loss.

The country as a whole are more inclined to support a tory government than a labour government.

The Tory loss will be representative of the overall majority for Labour and reform success.

The labour win will be theirs.

Historically (although I haven't fact checked), no party gains four successive electoral wins.

IMO there is more apathy among non Tory voters hence why the tories win on more occasions. Sadly, the apathetic believe "they're all the same": sleazebags, corrupt, liars, self serving people etc.

To those here, I say a new broom sweeps clean (and the old broom can get a much needed rest and makeover )

The tory loss will be attributed to tory voters not voting tory.

There are historically more tory voters, they will also not vote labour as a rule, I predict the lowest ever turn out for tory voters, thus giving the result to labour by default.

Only got themselves to blame then. We can look forward to five years of Labour Govt bashing in these forums. Probably be service as normal for the centrist fence sitters

3 terms never ends well as Amelie touched on.

And we can be thankful as by the third term complacency kicks in. I'd dread to think what would kick in during a fourth term, dictatorship/fascism/return to serfdom for the minions?

None of the above, by the end of a third term most parties have exhausted their talent and the drive to succeed with it.

But why?

You know that sinking feeling when something has been worked on for far to long, it started off with bang and begins to fizzle out as the expectation is overwhelmed by assumptions and dependencies as the clock ticks into another year?

People leave for new horizons and with it the original direction, we set sail on new course but it is not long before those that remain, usually the inept, start to undermine the new direction and then it begins, the rot starts to set.

The public will then want change as it is better than changing course yet again, on the same ship that didn't get us anywhere in the past.

Love a boat analogy, especially if it's a cruise, but not sure about this one.

Not sure who the players are supposed to be, where the boats going or who the inept are. But love a good boat story, is there a drinks package involved or has it all been d*unk already.

But hey ho, ship ahoy, let's set sail on the good ship, oh yeah not sure what the ships called, here's to a lovely trip.

Mrs x

The drinks package was consumed by the ships company during a period of scabies, when all passengers were confined to their cabins.

"

But the crew (civil servants) wanted the passengers thrown overboard.

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By *estivalMan
4 weeks ago

borehamwood


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards you do realise starmer will only be getting a massive majority for the exact same reason bozo got one not because hes any good just because the other side are so shit

Bojo's win was a one issue election - brexit."

brexit and the magic grandpa

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By *irldnCouple
4 weeks ago

Brighton


"It is all pretty quiet on the Tory supporter side! We used to hear regularly from one poster about the success of the winner Johnson getting his 80 seat majority. Hope that poster will acknowledge the success of the Labour/Starmer majority that looks to be on the cards you do realise starmer will only be getting a massive majority for the exact same reason bozo got one not because hes any good just because the other side are so shit

Bojo's win was a one issue election - brexit.brexit and the magic grandpa"

Good name for a Prog Rock band!

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