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"30mins of which around 8mins is an interview. Its ridiculous " Did he leave the beaches and veterans early to record it, snubbing many? | |||
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"Apparently his father was a toolmaker." He's kept that quiet...next you'll be telling me his mother worked in the NHS and its in his blood  | |||
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"Yes people if you believe men can be women just like Keir Starmer, vote for Labour, if you believe trans women can share private spaces like Keir Starmer with biological women, please vote for Labour, if you think women can have penises like Keir Starmer vote for Labour and finally if you're a person who's indecisive and dont know where you stand on things just like Keir Starmer then yes please vote for Labour "Oh shhhhh. Try reading the Equality Act re Trans and stop blaming SKS. | |||
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"Yes people if you believe men can be women just like Keir Starmer, vote for Labour, if you believe trans women can share private spaces like Keir Starmer with biological women, please vote for Labour, if you think women can have penises like Keir Starmer vote for Labour and finally if you're a person who's indecisive and dont know where you stand on things just like Keir Starmer then yes please vote for Labour
Oh shhhhh. Try reading the Equality Act re Trans and stop blaming SKS."I have thank you | |||
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"Yes people if you believe men can be women just like Keir Starmer, vote for Labour, if you believe trans women can share private spaces like Keir Starmer with biological women, please vote for Labour, if you think women can have penises like Keir Starmer vote for Labour and finally if you're a person who's indecisive and dont know where you stand on things just like Keir Starmer then yes please vote for Labour
Oh shhhhh. Try reading the Equality Act re Trans and stop blaming SKS. I have thank you"You have stopped blaming Starmer? | |||
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"Yes people if you believe men can be women just like Keir Starmer, vote for Labour, if you believe trans women can share private spaces like Keir Starmer with biological women, please vote for Labour, if you think women can have penises like Keir Starmer vote for Labour and finally if you're a person who's indecisive and dont know where you stand on things just like Keir Starmer then yes please vote for Labour
Oh shhhhh. Try reading the Equality Act re Trans and stop blaming SKS. I have thank you
You have stopped blaming Starmer?"What have I blamed Starmer for? | |||
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"Yes people if you believe men can be women just like Keir Starmer, vote for Labour, if you believe trans women can share private spaces like Keir Starmer with biological women, please vote for Labour, if you think women can have penises like Keir Starmer vote for Labour and finally if you're a person who's indecisive and dont know where you stand on things just like Keir Starmer then yes please vote for Labour
Oh shhhhh. Try reading the Equality Act re Trans and stop blaming SKS. I have thank you
You have stopped blaming Starmer?
What have I blamed Starmer for?"I was asking the other chap who blames Starmer for everything. | |||
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"Yes people if you believe men can be women just like Keir Starmer, vote for Labour, if you believe trans women can share private spaces like Keir Starmer with biological women, please vote for Labour, if you think women can have penises like Keir Starmer vote for Labour and finally if you're a person who's indecisive and dont know where you stand on things just like Keir Starmer then yes please vote for Labour
Oh shhhhh. Try reading the Equality Act re Trans and stop blaming SKS. I have thank you
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What have I blamed Starmer for?
I was asking the other chap who blames Starmer for everything. "Ahhh | |||
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"You have stopped blaming Starmer? What have I blamed Starmer for? I was asking the other chap who blames Starmer for everything. " ************************************ Deliberately confusing. The "other chap" posted a number of assertions regarding Mr. Starmer which represented his opinion(s) on Starmer. He certainly did NOT attribute any 'blame'. So, how did the conclusion he "blames Starmer for everything" come about....?? "Everything", meaning........ just what.....??! Think. | |||
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"You have stopped blaming Starmer? What have I blamed Starmer for? I was asking the other chap who blames Starmer for everything. " Well, it makes a change from blaming Khan for everything! | |||
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"You have stopped blaming Starmer? What have I blamed Starmer for? I was asking the other chap who blames Starmer for everything. Well, it makes a change from blaming Khan for everything!" As for Sadiq Khan I stand by my word, his still useless after 8 years | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them" Self trolling. Love it.  | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them" You think Farage is? | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is?" Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out" we have labours (I agree) vague statements verus Farage's slight more specific but yet unquantified and possibly implausible statements. He's as establishment as the rest. | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out" If immigration isn't a priority for you, what attracts you to theses anti-immigrant, anti-science not jobs? | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out" Which of Farages answers to the issue do you think are viable? | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out If immigration isn't a priority for you, what attracts you to theses anti-immigrant, anti-science not jobs? " They are not anti immigration like you keep saying they want it controlled to levels that is sustainable so it doesnt put pressure on public services which is a common sense approach | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out Which of Farages answers to the issue do you think are viable?" most of them apart from maybe the tax free allowance of £20000 | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out If immigration isn't a priority for you, what attracts you to theses anti-immigrant, anti-science not jobs? They are not anti immigration like you keep saying they want it controlled to levels that is sustainable so it doesnt put pressure on public services which is a common sense approach" What is it that attracts you to Reform. Assuming you view yourself as a rational person with measured views. What is it that attracts you to their politics? | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out If immigration isn't a priority for you, what attracts you to theses anti-immigrant, anti-science not jobs? They are not anti immigration like you keep saying they want it controlled to levels that is sustainable so it doesnt put pressure on public services which is a common sense approach What is it that attracts you to Reform. Assuming you view yourself as a rational person with measured views. What is it that attracts you to their politics?" can I jump in it’s there stance on controlling immigration | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out If immigration isn't a priority for you, what attracts you to theses anti-immigrant, anti-science not jobs? They are not anti immigration like you keep saying they want it controlled to levels that is sustainable so it doesnt put pressure on public services which is a common sense approach What is it that attracts you to Reform. Assuming you view yourself as a rational person with measured views. What is it that attracts you to their politics?" Mostly everything that is common sense to me, like their way of reaching Net Zero for one but obviously you like the Labour plan of dealing with climate change and the evironment where it will too expensive | |||
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"nobody in here answered this question so will ask again, why would you vote for Labour who claim to fight for social justice but were investigated for being racist (which they are in their case antisemitic) by the Equality and Human Rights Commission when the only other party to do so was the BNP? Once you're compared to a party like the BNP thats it their reps lost" Because they had an issue with antisemitism, the EHRC made recommendations, the party accepted and implemented them. Surely if you’re found to be doing a bad thing (consciously or subconsciously), it is pointed out, and you do something about it, then that is a good thing? Have you ever voted Conservative? | |||
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"nobody in here answered this question so will ask again, why would you vote for Labour who claim to fight for social justice but were investigated for being racist (which they are in their case antisemitic) by the Equality and Human Rights Commission when the only other party to do so was the BNP? Once you're compared to a party like the BNP thats it their reps lost" the ehrc was absolutely a low point. A lot of the findings pointed at the processes and leadership both of which has changed. The later bit being why many couldn't vote labour last time. When you boast that you broke the BNP by taking their members, that massively erodes you me reputation. Again. Part of the establishment. Same as the rest. | |||
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"Starmer is a stupid old woman, and when he is doing PMQ the shadow cabinet will rip him to pieces. He is only going to be elected because Corbyn was a communist moron and the various incarnations of Tory government we have had over the last 14 years have been awful. Things will not get better, methinks they are going to get much much worse, especially for working class people." Starmer is a man. Both under the woke and non woke definitions. 
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out Which of Farages answers to the issue do you think are viable? most of them apart from maybe the tax free allowance of £20000" Can you be more specific? Do you actually know what they are? | |||
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"Starmer is a stupid old woman, and when he is doing PMQ the shadow cabinet will rip him to pieces. He is only going to be elected because Corbyn was a communist moron and the various incarnations of Tory government we have had over the last 14 years have been awful. Things will not get better, methinks they are going to get much much worse, especially for working class people." Not sure Starmer knows he is a stupid old woman because that means knowing what a woman is right? | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out Which of Farages answers to the issue do you think are viable? most of them apart from maybe the tax free allowance of £20000" stopping "non essential" immigration is inguess viable. But it's hugely unclear to me what essential means and the impact this policy has on immigration. Given it's a key focus, that's a gap. Using the navy to turn the boats around doesnt appear to be visible and they have rowed back from saying laws allow it. However as they almost showed in QT, the Australian approach only worked because the counties accepted them. That's a big viability gap. Immediate deportation is arguably unviable given no one can do it today. Leaving ECHR probably won't be ablugh of an answer and would need massive amount of rewriting our laws. And that's assuming the other countries accept them ! Without detail it's unviable imo. Ditto illegal immigrants aka asulim seekers. Other than leave echr (viable but also not enough), saying no to students kids and spouses, and a foreign worker tax, most of their immigration policy is at best a line sketch, at worst impossible. | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out If immigration isn't a priority for you, what attracts you to theses anti-immigrant, anti-science not jobs? They are not anti immigration like you keep saying they want it controlled to levels that is sustainable so it doesnt put pressure on public services which is a common sense approach What is it that attracts you to Reform. Assuming you view yourself as a rational person with measured views. What is it that attracts you to their politics?can I jump in it’s there stance on controlling immigration " 1. He said immigration was not a top issue for him 2 Reform have absolutely zero interest in taking away their biggest vote winner. | |||
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"Starmer is a stupid old woman, and when he is doing PMQ the shadow cabinet will rip him to pieces. He is only going to be elected because Corbyn was a communist moron and the various incarnations of Tory government we have had over the last 14 years have been awful. Things will not get better, methinks they are going to get much much worse, especially for working class people." This is my stereotype of a Reform voter +1. Using "woman" as a derogatory term is the "+1" | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out Which of Farages answers to the issue do you think are viable? most of them apart from maybe the tax free allowance of £20000stopping "non essential" immigration is inguess viable. But it's hugely unclear to me what essential means and the impact this policy has on immigration. Given it's a key focus, that's a gap. Using the navy to turn the boats around doesnt appear to be visible and they have rowed back from saying laws allow it. However as they almost showed in QT, the Australian approach only worked because the counties accepted them. That's a big viability gap. Immediate deportation is arguably unviable given no one can do it today. Leaving ECHR probably won't be ablugh of an answer and would need massive amount of rewriting our laws. And that's assuming the other countries accept them ! Without detail it's unviable imo. Ditto illegal immigrants aka asulim seekers. Other than leave echr (viable but also not enough), saying no to students kids and spouses, and a foreign worker tax, most of their immigration policy is at best a line sketch, at worst impossible. " Essential immigration depends on the job market and gaps in provision. Nursing has been part of essential immigration for a long time. Never solves the nursing crises though. Doesn't help when your govt lies about producing 70,000 more nurses, and yet vacancies seem to stay in excess of 40,000. | |||
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"Starmer is a stupid old woman, and when he is doing PMQ the shadow cabinet will rip him to pieces. He is only going to be elected because Corbyn was a communist moron and the various incarnations of Tory government we have had over the last 14 years have been awful. Things will not get better, methinks they are going to get much much worse, especially for working class people." Why do you think that? Mrs x | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out Which of Farages answers to the issue do you think are viable? most of them apart from maybe the tax free allowance of £20000stopping "non essential" immigration is inguess viable. But it's hugely unclear to me what essential means and the impact this policy has on immigration. Given it's a key focus, that's a gap. Using the navy to turn the boats around doesnt appear to be visible and they have rowed back from saying laws allow it. However as they almost showed in QT, the Australian approach only worked because the counties accepted them. That's a big viability gap. Immediate deportation is arguably unviable given no one can do it today. Leaving ECHR probably won't be ablugh of an answer and would need massive amount of rewriting our laws. And that's assuming the other countries accept them ! Without detail it's unviable imo. Ditto illegal immigrants aka asulim seekers. Other than leave echr (viable but also not enough), saying no to students kids and spouses, and a foreign worker tax, most of their immigration policy is at best a line sketch, at worst impossible. Essential immigration depends on the job market and gaps in provision. Nursing has been part of essential immigration for a long time. Never solves the nursing crises though. Doesn't help when your govt lies about producing 70,000 more nurses, and yet vacancies seem to stay in excess of 40,000." 436,000 people aged between 18 and 24 are unemployed and 200,000 odd economic migrants Why is filling 40,000 vacancies with training a problem for the nhs. | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out Which of Farages answers to the issue do you think are viable? most of them apart from maybe the tax free allowance of £20000stopping "non essential" immigration is inguess viable. But it's hugely unclear to me what essential means and the impact this policy has on immigration. Given it's a key focus, that's a gap. Using the navy to turn the boats around doesnt appear to be visible and they have rowed back from saying laws allow it. However as they almost showed in QT, the Australian approach only worked because the counties accepted them. That's a big viability gap. Immediate deportation is arguably unviable given no one can do it today. Leaving ECHR probably won't be ablugh of an answer and would need massive amount of rewriting our laws. And that's assuming the other countries accept them ! Without detail it's unviable imo. Ditto illegal immigrants aka asulim seekers. Other than leave echr (viable but also not enough), saying no to students kids and spouses, and a foreign worker tax, most of their immigration policy is at best a line sketch, at worst impossible. Essential immigration depends on the job market and gaps in provision. Nursing has been part of essential immigration for a long time. Never solves the nursing crises though. Doesn't help when your govt lies about producing 70,000 more nurses, and yet vacancies seem to stay in excess of 40,000. 436,000 people aged between 18 and 24 are unemployed and 200,000 odd economic migrants Why is filling 40,000 vacancies with training a problem for the nhs. " You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training? | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out Which of Farages answers to the issue do you think are viable? most of them apart from maybe the tax free allowance of £20000stopping "non essential" immigration is inguess viable. But it's hugely unclear to me what essential means and the impact this policy has on immigration. Given it's a key focus, that's a gap. Using the navy to turn the boats around doesnt appear to be visible and they have rowed back from saying laws allow it. However as they almost showed in QT, the Australian approach only worked because the counties accepted them. That's a big viability gap. Immediate deportation is arguably unviable given no one can do it today. Leaving ECHR probably won't be ablugh of an answer and would need massive amount of rewriting our laws. And that's assuming the other countries accept them ! Without detail it's unviable imo. Ditto illegal immigrants aka asulim seekers. Other than leave echr (viable but also not enough), saying no to students kids and spouses, and a foreign worker tax, most of their immigration policy is at best a line sketch, at worst impossible. Essential immigration depends on the job market and gaps in provision. Nursing has been part of essential immigration for a long time. Never solves the nursing crises though. Doesn't help when your govt lies about producing 70,000 more nurses, and yet vacancies seem to stay in excess of 40,000. 436,000 people aged between 18 and 24 are unemployed and 200,000 odd economic migrants Why is filling 40,000 vacancies with training a problem for the nhs. You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training?" fuck it. Just give them a Physians Assistant Assistant role and let them help in surgery. | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out Which of Farages answers to the issue do you think are viable? most of them apart from maybe the tax free allowance of £20000stopping "non essential" immigration is inguess viable. But it's hugely unclear to me what essential means and the impact this policy has on immigration. Given it's a key focus, that's a gap. Using the navy to turn the boats around doesnt appear to be visible and they have rowed back from saying laws allow it. However as they almost showed in QT, the Australian approach only worked because the counties accepted them. That's a big viability gap. Immediate deportation is arguably unviable given no one can do it today. Leaving ECHR probably won't be ablugh of an answer and would need massive amount of rewriting our laws. And that's assuming the other countries accept them ! Without detail it's unviable imo. Ditto illegal immigrants aka asulim seekers. Other than leave echr (viable but also not enough), saying no to students kids and spouses, and a foreign worker tax, most of their immigration policy is at best a line sketch, at worst impossible. Essential immigration depends on the job market and gaps in provision. Nursing has been part of essential immigration for a long time. Never solves the nursing crises though. Doesn't help when your govt lies about producing 70,000 more nurses, and yet vacancies seem to stay in excess of 40,000. 436,000 people aged between 18 and 24 are unemployed and 200,000 odd economic migrants Why is filling 40,000 vacancies with training a problem for the nhs. You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training?" That’s what I said - training 40,000 places to fill from 600,000+ potential candidates. | |||
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" You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training?" 2.1 million students at uk universities and 540,000 new enrolments every September. Why are they not choosing nursing? | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out Which of Farages answers to the issue do you think are viable? most of them apart from maybe the tax free allowance of £20000stopping "non essential" immigration is inguess viable. But it's hugely unclear to me what essential means and the impact this policy has on immigration. Given it's a key focus, that's a gap. Using the navy to turn the boats around doesnt appear to be visible and they have rowed back from saying laws allow it. However as they almost showed in QT, the Australian approach only worked because the counties accepted them. That's a big viability gap. Immediate deportation is arguably unviable given no one can do it today. Leaving ECHR probably won't be ablugh of an answer and would need massive amount of rewriting our laws. And that's assuming the other countries accept them ! Without detail it's unviable imo. Ditto illegal immigrants aka asulim seekers. Other than leave echr (viable but also not enough), saying no to students kids and spouses, and a foreign worker tax, most of their immigration policy is at best a line sketch, at worst impossible. Essential immigration depends on the job market and gaps in provision. Nursing has been part of essential immigration for a long time. Never solves the nursing crises though. Doesn't help when your govt lies about producing 70,000 more nurses, and yet vacancies seem to stay in excess of 40,000. 436,000 people aged between 18 and 24 are unemployed and 200,000 odd economic migrants Why is filling 40,000 vacancies with training a problem for the nhs. You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training? That’s what I said - training 40,000 places to fill from 600,000+ potential candidates. " The nursing degree is possibly the most intense degree about, and you think there are over half a million potential candidates. The degree takes place over three years and yet most other countries do it over four. The attrition rate for students is very high. And you do know people need to want to study and to train? How would you tempt them into uni (if they fulfil entry requirements and the four stage interview)? | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out Which of Farages answers to the issue do you think are viable? most of them apart from maybe the tax free allowance of £20000stopping "non essential" immigration is inguess viable. But it's hugely unclear to me what essential means and the impact this policy has on immigration. Given it's a key focus, that's a gap. Using the navy to turn the boats around doesnt appear to be visible and they have rowed back from saying laws allow it. However as they almost showed in QT, the Australian approach only worked because the counties accepted them. That's a big viability gap. Immediate deportation is arguably unviable given no one can do it today. Leaving ECHR probably won't be ablugh of an answer and would need massive amount of rewriting our laws. And that's assuming the other countries accept them ! Without detail it's unviable imo. Ditto illegal immigrants aka asulim seekers. Other than leave echr (viable but also not enough), saying no to students kids and spouses, and a foreign worker tax, most of their immigration policy is at best a line sketch, at worst impossible. Essential immigration depends on the job market and gaps in provision. Nursing has been part of essential immigration for a long time. Never solves the nursing crises though. Doesn't help when your govt lies about producing 70,000 more nurses, and yet vacancies seem to stay in excess of 40,000. 436,000 people aged between 18 and 24 are unemployed and 200,000 odd economic migrants Why is filling 40,000 vacancies with training a problem for the nhs. You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training? That’s what I said - training 40,000 places to fill from 600,000+ potential candidates. The nursing degree is possibly the most intense degree about, and you think there are over half a million potential candidates. The degree takes place over three years and yet most other countries do it over four. The attrition rate for students is very high. And you do know people need to want to study and to train? How would you tempt them into uni (if they fulfil entry requirements and the four stage interview)?" They are already at university. Why have more not chosen nursing. | |||
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" You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training? 2.1 million students at uk universities and 540,000 new enrolments every September. Why are they not choosing nursing? They need a nursing degree, not just any old degree." Not demeaning any degrees just asking why more are not choosing nursing. | |||
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" You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training? 2.1 million students at uk universities and 540,000 new enrolments every September. Why are they not choosing nursing? " Why didn’t you choose nursing? Thought about it? Then there’s your answer! Takes a certain type of person to do a role like that. I know I couldn’t do regardless of the money on offer! | |||
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" You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training? 2.1 million students at uk universities and 540,000 new enrolments every September. Why are they not choosing nursing? Why didn’t you choose nursing? Thought about it? Then there’s your answer! Takes a certain type of person to do a role like that. I know I couldn’t do regardless of the money on offer!" There must be an underlying reason - I don’t know - I’m asking We are not short of graduates | |||
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" You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training? 2.1 million students at uk universities and 540,000 new enrolments every September. Why are they not choosing nursing? They need a nursing degree, not just any old degree. Not demeaning any degrees just asking why more are not choosing nursing. " Maybe it's poor remuneration , maybe cos it's difficult to get in, maybe cos of the intensity as stated (it is like doing two degrees simultaneously), maybe cos it's the knowledge of likely burn out.... what do reckon it is? | |||
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" You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training? 2.1 million students at uk universities and 540,000 new enrolments every September. Why are they not choosing nursing? Why didn’t you choose nursing? Thought about it? Then there’s your answer! Takes a certain type of person to do a role like that. I know I couldn’t do regardless of the money on offer! There must be an underlying reason - I don’t know - I’m asking We are not short of graduates " Which is irrelevant as we are short of nursing graduates. | |||
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" You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training? 2.1 million students at uk universities and 540,000 new enrolments every September. Why are they not choosing nursing? Why didn’t you choose nursing? Thought about it? Then there’s your answer! Takes a certain type of person to do a role like that. I know I couldn’t do regardless of the money on offer! There must be an underlying reason - I don’t know - I’m asking We are not short of graduates " Why aren’t you a nurse? Whatever reason you give probably reflects how most people feel. | |||
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" You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training? 2.1 million students at uk universities and 540,000 new enrolments every September. Why are they not choosing nursing? They need a nursing degree, not just any old degree. Not demeaning any degrees just asking why more are not choosing nursing. Maybe it's poor remuneration , maybe cos it's difficult to get in, maybe cos of the intensity as stated (it is like doing two degrees simultaneously), maybe cos it's the knowledge of likely burn out.... what do reckon it is?" I read the BMA said removal of training bursaries resulted in reduced trainee nurses applications, you corrected me recently that training bursaries have been reinstated. What is the drop out rate ? 25% architects quit after qualifying, and I read 19.9% teachers quit within 2 years. I suggest the problems are not solely at the door of the nursing profession. Graduates complaining so many are i. low paid work. | |||
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" You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training? 2.1 million students at uk universities and 540,000 new enrolments every September. Why are they not choosing nursing? They need a nursing degree, not just any old degree. Not demeaning any degrees just asking why more are not choosing nursing. Maybe it's poor remuneration , maybe cos it's difficult to get in, maybe cos of the intensity as stated (it is like doing two degrees simultaneously), maybe cos it's the knowledge of likely burn out.... what do reckon it is? I read the BMA said removal of training bursaries resulted in reduced trainee nurses applications, you corrected me recently that training bursaries have been reinstated. What is the drop out rate ? 25% architects quit after qualifying, and I read 19.9% teachers quit within 2 years. I suggest the problems are not solely at the door of the nursing profession. Graduates complaining so many are i. low paid work. " The attrition rate of student nurses is high. Over a third dropped out in my first year. That is incredibly high. | |||
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" You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training? 2.1 million students at uk universities and 540,000 new enrolments every September. Why are they not choosing nursing? They need a nursing degree, not just any old degree. Not demeaning any degrees just asking why more are not choosing nursing. Maybe it's poor remuneration , maybe cos it's difficult to get in, maybe cos of the intensity as stated (it is like doing two degrees simultaneously), maybe cos it's the knowledge of likely burn out.... what do reckon it is? I read the BMA said removal of training bursaries resulted in reduced trainee nurses applications, you corrected me recently that training bursaries have been reinstated. What is the drop out rate ? 25% architects quit after qualifying, and I read 19.9% teachers quit within 2 years. I suggest the problems are not solely at the door of the nursing profession. Graduates complaining so many are i. low paid work. The attrition rate of student nurses is high. Over a third dropped out in my first year. That is incredibly high." “According to the report, approximately 12% of nursing students in England fail to complete their degrees, and out of every five university nursing positions, only three full-time equivalent nurses enter the NHS” 60% retention What is the nhs / government doing ? https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/why-is-the-nhs-student-dropout-rate-rising-and-what-needs-to-change/167321/ | |||
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" You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training? 2.1 million students at uk universities and 540,000 new enrolments every September. Why are they not choosing nursing? They need a nursing degree, not just any old degree. Not demeaning any degrees just asking why more are not choosing nursing. Maybe it's poor remuneration , maybe cos it's difficult to get in, maybe cos of the intensity as stated (it is like doing two degrees simultaneously), maybe cos it's the knowledge of likely burn out.... what do reckon it is? I read the BMA said removal of training bursaries resulted in reduced trainee nurses applications, you corrected me recently that training bursaries have been reinstated. What is the drop out rate ? 25% architects quit after qualifying, and I read 19.9% teachers quit within 2 years. I suggest the problems are not solely at the door of the nursing profession. Graduates complaining so many are i. low paid work. The attrition rate of student nurses is high. Over a third dropped out in my first year. That is incredibly high. “According to the report, approximately 12% of nursing students in England fail to complete their degrees, and out of every five university nursing positions, only three full-time equivalent nurses enter the NHS” 60% retention What is the nhs / government doing ? https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/why-is-the-nhs-student-dropout-rate-rising-and-what-needs-to-change/167321/" I doubt those numbers are accurate. RCN reports in 2022 33% failed to finish their studies. Anyway, the point is that before the govt promised 50,000 more nurses and then lied about providing 70,000 more nurses (appropriating many from red list countries), the vacancies like to fluctuate around 46,000. It would be more if nhs England was to instil safe staffing like the devolved nations. | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out Which of Farages answers to the issue do you think are viable? most of them apart from maybe the tax free allowance of £20000stopping "non essential" immigration is inguess viable. But it's hugely unclear to me what essential means and the impact this policy has on immigration. Given it's a key focus, that's a gap. Using the navy to turn the boats around doesnt appear to be visible and they have rowed back from saying laws allow it. However as they almost showed in QT, the Australian approach only worked because the counties accepted them. That's a big viability gap. Immediate deportation is arguably unviable given no one can do it today. Leaving ECHR probably won't be ablugh of an answer and would need massive amount of rewriting our laws. And that's assuming the other countries accept them ! Without detail it's unviable imo. Ditto illegal immigrants aka asulim seekers. Other than leave echr (viable but also not enough), saying no to students kids and spouses, and a foreign worker tax, most of their immigration policy is at best a line sketch, at worst impossible. Essential immigration depends on the job market and gaps in provision. Nursing has been part of essential immigration for a long time. Never solves the nursing crises though. Doesn't help when your govt lies about producing 70,000 more nurses, and yet vacancies seem to stay in excess of 40,000. 436,000 people aged between 18 and 24 are unemployed and 200,000 odd economic migrants Why is filling 40,000 vacancies with training a problem for the nhs. You do know nurses need a BSc degree now, as well as training? That’s what I said - training 40,000 places to fill from 600,000+ potential candidates. " You don’t just get a BSc from working hard, you have to be pretty clever too. Also nursing is a really fucking hard job, the conditions are not great and for the level of responsibility you hold, neither are the wages. | |||
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"Did I say I blame Starmer for everything? Whatever problems we have now Starmer isnt the answer for them You think Farage is? Its like this, I dont think any political party has the answers to the problems we face in this country however but with Labour in particular when it comes to immigration (and no its not a priority issue for me) its hardly mentioned in their manifesto and even if it is its very vague. So in this instance I think Nigel Farage has better answers then Starmer but whether they work unlikley to find out If immigration isn't a priority for you, what attracts you to theses anti-immigrant, anti-science not jobs? They are not anti immigration like you keep saying they want it controlled to levels that is sustainable so it doesnt put pressure on public services which is a common sense approach What is it that attracts you to Reform. Assuming you view yourself as a rational person with measured views. What is it that attracts you to their politics? Mostly everything that is common sense to me, like their way of reaching Net Zero for one but obviously you like the Labour plan of dealing with climate change and the evironment where it will too expensive " Tice, who funds Reform, is a classic global heating denier. They don't deserve attention for such stupidity and lack of coherent thought | |||
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