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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts " Haven’t they insisted that Biden sleeps for a week beforehand so he can stay awake long enough? | |||
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"Haven’t they insisted that Biden sleeps for a week beforehand so he can stay awake long enough?" See .. this is going to be the republicans problem Spent so much time calling Biden sleepy and forgetful over the last 3 years, you’re basically lowered the expectations so much!… if he turns up and is coherent.. he wins!! Also….last couple of trump rallies.. not so good!!! Again at the weekend he was a rambling mess!!! Trump without a teleprompter.. eerrmmm So… what is going to do for trump if Biden has the better debate …. If you were to ask me which one is more likely to make the biggest gaffe…. I don’t think I’d say Biden! Trump is going to get tripped up on January 6th, or abortion rights or voting rights , or something about Putin…. I | |||
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"Haven’t they insisted that Biden sleeps for a week beforehand so he can stay awake long enough? See .. this is going to be the republicans problem Spent so much time calling Biden sleepy and forgetful over the last 3 years, you’re basically lowered the expectations so much!… if he turns up and is coherent.. he wins!! Also….last couple of trump rallies.. not so good!!! Again at the weekend he was a rambling mess!!! Trump without a teleprompter.. eerrmmm So… what is going to do for trump if Biden has the better debate …. If you were to ask me which one is more likely to make the biggest gaffe…. I don’t think I’d say Biden! Trump is going to get tripped up on January 6th, or abortion rights or voting rights , or something about Putin…. I " To be fair Biden does seem to outperform expectations in big event public speaking sometimes. It isn’t clear why. Maybe his doctor has some special “potions”. | |||
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"Both are Octogenarians aren't they? Sad state of affairs that the parties haven't got people more likely to at least sit their term "Honestly… I only believe Biden is running because trump is running….. Anyway… debate starts in 4 hours time.. I have decided I’ll get up early tomorrow morning and give it a proper watch It should be a good watch… I think Biden is more likely to goad trump into blowing up rather than the other way around | |||
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"Isn’t CNN running a 2 minute delay? Sounds suspicious. Presumably they want to cover up any Biden gaffes or any, ahem, personal mishaps." Very unfair comment. Trump has been the one criticising CNN presenters in the run up to this yo deflect off himself | |||
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"Isn’t CNN running a 2 minute delay? Sounds suspicious. Presumably they want to cover up any Biden gaffes or any, ahem, personal mishaps." I'm sure they'll both wear their Tena pants. | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! " A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.." It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent." How very true 
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent."
The rise of populists aligned with instant social media and a population seemingly more easily manipulated ..
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though. "What we are going to get is boring and incompetent. | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent.
The rise of populists aligned with instant social media and a population seemingly more easily manipulated ..
Boring is what we need after the mess of the past 8/14 years"How have you managed to avoid this manipulation? | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though.
What we are going to get is boring and incompetent.
"Worryingly quite likely true! It comes to something when the choice is bad or a bit less bad. | |||
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"We’ve known for years that Biden isn’t fit for office but the Democrats have lied for years and years about his capabilities. The people around him who have kept on enabling him and lying to everyone when we can all see the truth are frankly just animals, and it demonstrates how just entirely unfit for government the Democrats are. I’ve had many great holidays in the US and am generally very positive about it and its people if one can generalise, but frankly it’s become a total embarrassment and obviously dangerous to world peace, as we can see in Ukraine and Israel. It reminds me of the USSR in the 1970’s when everyone could see that their leader was near to death and people around him had to hold him up, but still the state kept telling everyone that he was the fittest man in the country. Disaster. " You can say the same about the Republicans and Trump, though. He’s always had a dictatorial leaning and been a crook, now he’s a crook with dictatorial leanings who has also suffered a massive cognitive decline. | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though. "The last thing you want is accountants running anything. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing. Accountants are useful assistants, but they never make good leaders. | |||
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"We’ve known for years that Biden isn’t fit for office but the Democrats have lied for years and years about his capabilities. The people around him who have kept on enabling him and lying to everyone when we can all see the truth are frankly just animals, and it demonstrates how just entirely unfit for government the Democrats are. I’ve had many great holidays in the US and am generally very positive about it and its people if one can generalise, but frankly it’s become a total embarrassment and obviously dangerous to world peace, as we can see in Ukraine and Israel. It reminds me of the USSR in the 1970’s when everyone could see that their leader was near to death and people around him had to hold him up, but still the state kept telling everyone that he was the fittest man in the country. Disaster. " And equally the same can be said about trump and the Republican party.. | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent.
The rise of populists aligned with instant social media and a population seemingly more easily manipulated ..
Boring is what we need after the mess of the past 8/14 years
How have you managed to avoid this manipulation? "The ability to spot the trolls and bots helps 
You know, the ones who appear at such times as presently and during the pandemic.. | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent.
The rise of populists aligned with instant social media and a population seemingly more easily manipulated ..
Boring is what we need after the mess of the past 8/14 years
How have you managed to avoid this manipulation?
The ability to spot the trolls and bots helps
You know, the ones who appear at such times as presently and during the pandemic.."Yes but where does this ability come from for you? You clearly think others don’t have this ability so why do you? | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though.
The last thing you want is accountants running anything. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Accountants are useful assistants, but they never make good leaders."We can see that with the unsuccessful transition from Chancellor to PM. | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though.
The last thing you want is accountants running anything. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Accountants are useful assistants, but they never make good leaders.
We can see that with the unsuccessful transition from Chancellor to PM."Ouch! Although more like gambler, ooops I mean Hedge Fund Mgr lol | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though.
The last thing you want is accountants running anything. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Accountants are useful assistants, but they never make good leaders.
We can see that with the unsuccessful transition from Chancellor to PM."Yes but transition from CPS bureaucrat to PM makes total sense. | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though.
The last thing you want is accountants running anything. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Accountants are useful assistants, but they never make good leaders.
We can see that with the unsuccessful transition from Chancellor to PM.
Yes but transition from CPS bureaucrat to PM makes total sense."Expert in law vs bean counter/gambler? Well at least one of them will actually have been voted for by the UK public. Will of the majority and all that! | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though.
The last thing you want is accountants running anything. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Accountants are useful assistants, but they never make good leaders.
We can see that with the unsuccessful transition from Chancellor to PM.
Yes but transition from CPS bureaucrat to PM makes total sense.
Expert in law vs bean counter/gambler? Well at least one of them will actually have been voted for by the UK public. Will of the majority and all that!"Can we say the majority are 'thick as fuck' and 'antisemitic'? It was said after all that the majority in the Brexit vote were 'thick as shit' and 'racist'. | |||
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"We’ve known for years that Biden isn’t fit for office but the Democrats have lied for years and years about his capabilities. The people around him who have kept on enabling him and lying to everyone when we can all see the truth are frankly just animals, and it demonstrates how just entirely unfit for government the Democrats are. I’ve had many great holidays in the US and am generally very positive about it and its people if one can generalise, but frankly it’s become a total embarrassment and obviously dangerous to world peace, as we can see in Ukraine and Israel. It reminds me of the USSR in the 1970’s when everyone could see that their leader was near to death and people around him had to hold him up, but still the state kept telling everyone that he was the fittest man in the country. Disaster. You can say the same about the Republicans and Trump, though. He’s always had a dictatorial leaning and been a crook, now he’s a crook with dictatorial leanings who has also suffered a massive cognitive decline." “Dictatorial leanings”? How did these manifest themselves while he was in office? Trying to jail his opponents perhaps? | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though.
The last thing you want is accountants running anything. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Accountants are useful assistants, but they never make good leaders.
We can see that with the unsuccessful transition from Chancellor to PM.
Yes but transition from CPS bureaucrat to PM makes total sense."Time will tell, and hopefully a good transition for the benefit of all us minions. | |||
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"We’ve known for years that Biden isn’t fit for office but the Democrats have lied for years and years about his capabilities. The people around him who have kept on enabling him and lying to everyone when we can all see the truth are frankly just animals, and it demonstrates how just entirely unfit for government the Democrats are. I’ve had many great holidays in the US and am generally very positive about it and its people if one can generalise, but frankly it’s become a total embarrassment and obviously dangerous to world peace, as we can see in Ukraine and Israel. It reminds me of the USSR in the 1970’s when everyone could see that their leader was near to death and people around him had to hold him up, but still the state kept telling everyone that he was the fittest man in the country. Disaster. You can say the same about the Republicans and Trump, though. He’s always had a dictatorial leaning and been a crook, now he’s a crook with dictatorial leanings who has also suffered a massive cognitive decline. “Dictatorial leanings”? How did these manifest themselves while he was in office? Trying to jail his opponents perhaps? " He spent most of his presidency trying to cancel various American businesses and various people who spoke up. | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though.
The last thing you want is accountants running anything. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Accountants are useful assistants, but they never make good leaders.
We can see that with the unsuccessful transition from Chancellor to PM.
Yes but transition from CPS bureaucrat to PM makes total sense.
Expert in law vs bean counter/gambler? Well at least one of them will actually have been voted for by the UK public. Will of the majority and all that!
Can we say the majority are 'thick as fuck' and 'antisemitic'?
It was said after all that the majority in the Brexit vote were 'thick as shit' and 'racist'.
"Say whatever you want. Fill your boots. I won’t be voting Labour as it would be like xmas and turkeys but thanks to FPTP my vote is actually meaningless anyway! | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though.
The last thing you want is accountants running anything. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Accountants are useful assistants, but they never make good leaders.
We can see that with the unsuccessful transition from Chancellor to PM.
Yes but transition from CPS bureaucrat to PM makes total sense.
Expert in law vs bean counter/gambler? Well at least one of them will actually have been voted for by the UK public. Will of the majority and all that!
Can we say the majority are 'thick as fuck' and 'antisemitic'?
It was said after all that the majority in the Brexit vote were 'thick as shit' and 'racist'.
Say whatever you want. Fill your boots. I won’t be voting Labour as it would be like xmas and turkeys but thanks to FPTP my vote is actually meaningless anyway!"I won't personally be saying it, was just looking for equivalence. | |||
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"We’ve known for years that Biden isn’t fit for office but the Democrats have lied for years and years about his capabilities. The people around him who have kept on enabling him and lying to everyone when we can all see the truth are frankly just animals, and it demonstrates how just entirely unfit for government the Democrats are. I’ve had many great holidays in the US and am generally very positive about it and its people if one can generalise, but frankly it’s become a total embarrassment and obviously dangerous to world peace, as we can see in Ukraine and Israel. It reminds me of the USSR in the 1970’s when everyone could see that their leader was near to death and people around him had to hold him up, but still the state kept telling everyone that he was the fittest man in the country. Disaster. You can say the same about the Republicans and Trump, though. He’s always had a dictatorial leaning and been a crook, now he’s a crook with dictatorial leanings who has also suffered a massive cognitive decline. “Dictatorial leanings”? How did these manifest themselves while he was in office? Trying to jail his opponents perhaps? He spent most of his presidency trying to cancel various American businesses and various people who spoke up." “Cancel them”? Isn’t that just accepting that there are consequences for your actions? Do you have specific examples here? | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though.
The last thing you want is accountants running anything. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Accountants are useful assistants, but they never make good leaders.
We can see that with the unsuccessful transition from Chancellor to PM.
Yes but transition from CPS bureaucrat to PM makes total sense.
Time will tell, and hopefully a good transition for the benefit of all us minions."“Time will tell”. Now we are down to guesswork and blind hope. | |||
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"We’ve known for years that Biden isn’t fit for office but the Democrats have lied for years and years about his capabilities. The people around him who have kept on enabling him and lying to everyone when we can all see the truth are frankly just animals, and it demonstrates how just entirely unfit for government the Democrats are. I’ve had many great holidays in the US and am generally very positive about it and its people if one can generalise, but frankly it’s become a total embarrassment and obviously dangerous to world peace, as we can see in Ukraine and Israel. It reminds me of the USSR in the 1970’s when everyone could see that their leader was near to death and people around him had to hold him up, but still the state kept telling everyone that he was the fittest man in the country. Disaster. You can say the same about the Republicans and Trump, though. He’s always had a dictatorial leaning and been a crook, now he’s a crook with dictatorial leanings who has also suffered a massive cognitive decline. “Dictatorial leanings”? How did these manifest themselves while he was in office? Trying to jail his opponents perhaps? He spent most of his presidency trying to cancel various American businesses and various people who spoke up. “Cancel them”? Isn’t that just accepting that there are consequences for your actions? Do you have specific examples here?" Trump is the high king of cancel culture. Sure. Some examples. Amazon Boeing Delta Various news agencies Touré Chris Matthews HBO Etc etc etc. Some might suggest that the president should be advocating for US businesses, not trying to cancel them and make them lose money. | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though.
The last thing you want is accountants running anything. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Accountants are useful assistants, but they never make good leaders.
We can see that with the unsuccessful transition from Chancellor to PM.
Yes but transition from CPS bureaucrat to PM makes total sense.
Expert in law vs bean counter/gambler? Well at least one of them will actually have been voted for by the UK public. Will of the majority and all that!
Can we say the majority are 'thick as fuck' and 'antisemitic'?
It was said after all that the majority in the Brexit vote were 'thick as shit' and 'racist'.
Say whatever you want. Fill your boots. I won’t be voting Labour as it would be like xmas and turkeys but thanks to FPTP my vote is actually meaningless anyway!
I won't personally be saying it, was just looking for equivalence. "Well the Red Wall became the Blue Wall because of Brexit but now look likely to become the Red Wall again because the Tories were lying shites so they are clearly a bunch of fickle fuckers  | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though.
The last thing you want is accountants running anything. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Accountants are useful assistants, but they never make good leaders.
We can see that with the unsuccessful transition from Chancellor to PM."It’s the perfect example, going from a role that is entirely focused on money to one that requires a balanced view is nigh on impossible. The minute you start looking at things through the prism of finance is the minute you stop looking at possibilities and focus only on the barriers. If you want improvement the last people you want to lead it are the finance team, all they ever do is tell you what you cannot do, they are debilitatingly conservative. | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though.
The last thing you want is accountants running anything. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Accountants are useful assistants, but they never make good leaders.
We can see that with the unsuccessful transition from Chancellor to PM.
Yes but transition from CPS bureaucrat to PM makes total sense.
Time will tell, and hopefully a good transition for the benefit of all us minions.
“Time will tell”.
Now we are down to guesswork and blind hope."There are no certainties. | |||
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"US Democrats need another presidential nominee. For the good of democracy itself, rather than any political outcome. It's utterly nonsensical to keep him in for any reason at all. The Republicans might make fun of whomever is their "Plan B", but it needs to happen for the credibility of US politics. Trump might be an evil, chaotic, liar but at least he's not senile. (Frankly, both should be replaced) " If the democrats are looking at a plan B , for me it has to be one of 3 names.. Kamala Harris Gavin newsome (governor of California) Gretchen whitimer (governor of Michigan) | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump?" This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! | |||
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"US Democrats need another presidential nominee. For the good of democracy itself, rather than any political outcome. It's utterly nonsensical to keep him in for any reason at all. The Republicans might make fun of whomever is their "Plan B", but it needs to happen for the credibility of US politics. Trump might be an evil, chaotic, liar but at least he's not senile. (Frankly, both should be replaced) If the democrats are looking at a plan B , for me it has to be one of 3 names.. Kamala Harris Gavin newsome (governor of California) Gretchen whitimer (governor of Michigan)" Harris would get hammered by Trump. Her own Party can’t stand her. She’s (presumably) of sound mind and still talks incoherent gibberish. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! " After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. | |||
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"What a shame. The great nation of the United States with a population of over 330 million cannot put forward two better candidates for the biggest job in the world! A common theme that perhaps we share, and I agree.. In these times we are living in with the current serious global issues whichever one of them wins other less friendly states will be happy with what they saw.. A sad spectacle of the now.. It’s reflective of our times, everything has to be instant and no one can concentrate for more than ten seconds. Consequently we get chancers and grifters like Johnson and Farage hailed as great politicians. Politics used to be full of boring, competent people who were replaced by more inspiring types temporarily when they were required (see Churchill). Politics should be dull, it should be full of well meaning people doing the best for the people of the country (whatever political persuasion), instead we’ve been conditioned to think it should be exciting, but exciting politicians are rarely competent. How very true
Happy to have a few boring but competent years with the country being run by accountants (no offence meant to accountants).
It’ll kill this forum though.
The last thing you want is accountants running anything. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Accountants are useful assistants, but they never make good leaders.
We can see that with the unsuccessful transition from Chancellor to PM.
Yes but transition from CPS bureaucrat to PM makes total sense.
Time will tell, and hopefully a good transition for the benefit of all us minions.
“Time will tell”.
Now we are down to guesswork and blind hope."Since power corrupts and not having powers of future divination, yeah. At least we know "things can only get better" as we've had the shit and the tired for far too long. A new broom sweeps clean! | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem " Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House? | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?" not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube | |||
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"Totally relieved that it's not just us who are racing to to bottom. That's an odd thing to say. We know the US elections affect global markets." ....but you forgot to say that the likes of me and you have absolutely no power to effect either the UK election, US election or global markets. | |||
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"We’ve known for years that Biden isn’t fit for office but the Democrats have lied for years and years about his capabilities. The people around him who have kept on enabling him and lying to everyone when we can all see the truth are frankly just animals, and it demonstrates how just entirely unfit for government the Democrats are. I’ve had many great holidays in the US and am generally very positive about it and its people if one can generalise, but frankly it’s become a total embarrassment and obviously dangerous to world peace, as we can see in Ukraine and Israel. It reminds me of the USSR in the 1970’s when everyone could see that their leader was near to death and people around him had to hold him up, but still the state kept telling everyone that he was the fittest man in the country. Disaster. You can say the same about the Republicans and Trump, though. He’s always had a dictatorial leaning and been a crook, now he’s a crook with dictatorial leanings who has also suffered a massive cognitive decline. “Dictatorial leanings”? How did these manifest themselves while he was in office? Trying to jail his opponents perhaps? " There’s the whole refusal to accept the results of an election thing, to start with, his admiration for authoritarian leaders such as Putin and Kim Jong Un. His planned expansion of executive power and purge of civil servants. His vow to ‘go after’ the people who spoke out against his attempts to have the result of the 2020 election overturned. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube " Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?"  | |||
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"Totally relieved that it's not just us who are racing to to bottom. That's an odd thing to say. We know the US elections affect global markets. ....but you forgot to say that the likes of me and you have absolutely no power to effect either the UK election, US election or global markets. " That's a moot point in justifying your strange opinion that it relieves you when you know other minions are suffering too | |||
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"We’ve known for years that Biden isn’t fit for office but the Democrats have lied for years and years about his capabilities. The people around him who have kept on enabling him and lying to everyone when we can all see the truth are frankly just animals, and it demonstrates how just entirely unfit for government the Democrats are. I’ve had many great holidays in the US and am generally very positive about it and its people if one can generalise, but frankly it’s become a total embarrassment and obviously dangerous to world peace, as we can see in Ukraine and Israel. It reminds me of the USSR in the 1970’s when everyone could see that their leader was near to death and people around him had to hold him up, but still the state kept telling everyone that he was the fittest man in the country. Disaster. You can say the same about the Republicans and Trump, though. He’s always had a dictatorial leaning and been a crook, now he’s a crook with dictatorial leanings who has also suffered a massive cognitive decline. “Dictatorial leanings”? How did these manifest themselves while he was in office? Trying to jail his opponents perhaps? There’s the whole refusal to accept the results of an election thing, to start with, his admiration for authoritarian leaders such as Putin and Kim Jong Un. His planned expansion of executive power and purge of civil servants. His vow to ‘go after’ the people who spoke out against his attempts to have the result of the 2020 election overturned." Trump is the most unsubtle propagandist politician ever, but he says things many in the population of America want to hear. That is a very Hitler-like approach; although he has not the intelligence of the infamous dictator. One can only hope his health deteriorates before voting day. | |||
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You really don't recognise irony do you?
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You really don't recognise irony do you?
To be able to be ironic you need good communication skills. I haven't seen any in that sentence
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!"Is this 'theory' proof that Count Binface might have been advising Boris I wonder.. Certainly might answer a few questions.. | |||
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"We’ve known for years that Biden isn’t fit for office but the Democrats have lied for years and years about his capabilities. The people around him who have kept on enabling him and lying to everyone when we can all see the truth are frankly just animals, and it demonstrates how just entirely unfit for government the Democrats are. I’ve had many great holidays in the US and am generally very positive about it and its people if one can generalise, but frankly it’s become a total embarrassment and obviously dangerous to world peace, as we can see in Ukraine and Israel. It reminds me of the USSR in the 1970’s when everyone could see that their leader was near to death and people around him had to hold him up, but still the state kept telling everyone that he was the fittest man in the country. Disaster. You can say the same about the Republicans and Trump, though. He’s always had a dictatorial leaning and been a crook, now he’s a crook with dictatorial leanings who has also suffered a massive cognitive decline. “Dictatorial leanings”? How did these manifest themselves while he was in office? Trying to jail his opponents perhaps? There’s the whole refusal to accept the results of an election thing, to start with, his admiration for authoritarian leaders such as Putin and Kim Jong Un. His planned expansion of executive power and purge of civil servants. His vow to ‘go after’ the people who spoke out against his attempts to have the result of the 2020 election overturned. Trump is the most unsubtle propagandist politician ever, but he says things many in the population of America want to hear. That is a very Hitler-like approach; although he has not the intelligence of the infamous dictator. One can only hope his health deteriorates before voting day." What things is he saying that “many Americans want to hear”? Is Biden saying things that Americans don’t want to hear? Labour seem likely to win our own election. Are they winning it by saying things that people don’t want to hear? How does that work? | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!"the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol | |||
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"We’ve known for years that Biden isn’t fit for office but the Democrats have lied for years and years about his capabilities. The people around him who have kept on enabling him and lying to everyone when we can all see the truth are frankly just animals, and it demonstrates how just entirely unfit for government the Democrats are. I’ve had many great holidays in the US and am generally very positive about it and its people if one can generalise, but frankly it’s become a total embarrassment and obviously dangerous to world peace, as we can see in Ukraine and Israel. It reminds me of the USSR in the 1970’s when everyone could see that their leader was near to death and people around him had to hold him up, but still the state kept telling everyone that he was the fittest man in the country. Disaster. You can say the same about the Republicans and Trump, though. He’s always had a dictatorial leaning and been a crook, now he’s a crook with dictatorial leanings who has also suffered a massive cognitive decline. “Dictatorial leanings”? How did these manifest themselves while he was in office? Trying to jail his opponents perhaps? There’s the whole refusal to accept the results of an election thing, to start with, his admiration for authoritarian leaders such as Putin and Kim Jong Un. His planned expansion of executive power and purge of civil servants. His vow to ‘go after’ the people who spoke out against his attempts to have the result of the 2020 election overturned. Trump is the most unsubtle propagandist politician ever, but he says things many in the population of America want to hear. That is a very Hitler-like approach; although he has not the intelligence of the infamous dictator. One can only hope his health deteriorates before voting day. What things is he saying that “many Americans want to hear”? Is Biden saying things that Americans don’t want to hear? Labour seem likely to win our own election. Are they winning it by saying things that people don’t want to hear? How does that work?" No, Labour are winning because of the absolute shambles of a government we have had for the past 14 years. They don’t have to do or say anything, they just have to not be the Conservative Party. It’s quite an achievement for a party, in a country that is inherently conservative, to make it so easy for Labour to sweep to power, yet the Conservatives have done it twice in 30 years. Just because something is happening in one context it doesn’t mean it’s happening in another. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol"What evidence do you have that they are pulling the strings? | |||
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"I fucking love this place. Lefties - Brexit will be this. Tories will do this. Reform will do this. Trump will do this. Also lefties - there are no certainties "I don’t think it was lefties saying Brexit would be a disaster, it was economists. | |||
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"It’s quite an achievement for a party, in a country that is inherently conservative, to make it so easy for Labour to sweep to power, yet the Conservatives have done it twice in 30 years." It would be an achievement for an actual Labour party. But New Labour in 1997 was just a bunch of not-quite-Tories in red ties. They even had to change the name of the party to make themselves electable. This current group are no different, and they certainly aren't a traditional Labour party. | |||
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"I fucking love this place. Lefties - Brexit will be this. Tories will do this. Reform will do this. Trump will do this. Also lefties - there are no certainties
I don’t think it was lefties saying Brexit would be a disaster, it was economists."Not like you to pick up on one specific things in a statement  | |||
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"I fucking love this place. Lefties - Brexit will be this. Tories will do this. Reform will do this. Trump will do this. Also lefties - there are no certainties
I don’t think it was lefties saying Brexit would be a disaster, it was economists.
Not like you to pick up on one specific things in a statement "You only said four things. It’s true though, there are no certainties other than death, just likelihoods. Also, is anyone saying Reform will do things? It’s not as if they are going to get the opportunity after all. | |||
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"I fucking love this place. Lefties - Brexit will be this. Tories will do this. Reform will do this. Trump will do this. Also lefties - there are no certainties
I don’t think it was lefties saying Brexit would be a disaster, it was economists.
Not like you to pick up on one specific things in a statement
You only said four things. It’s true though, there are no certainties other than death, just likelihoods.
Also, is anyone saying Reform will do things? It’s not as if they are going to get the opportunity after all."I agree there are no absolute certainties. I just enjoy watching the gymnastics | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
What evidence do you have that they are pulling the strings?"the same as you have that there not | |||
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"Totally relieved that it's not just us who are racing to to bottom. That's an odd thing to say. We know the US elections affect global markets. ....but you forgot to say that the likes of me and you have absolutely no power to effect either the UK election, US election or global markets. That's a moot point in justifying your strange opinion that it relieves you when you know other minions are suffering too
You really don't recognise irony do you?
To be able to be ironic you need good communication skills. I haven't seen any in that sentence
Psst communication is more than just words, the emoticons are your friends.
Clever words do not disguise a failure to recognise irony.
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
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"US Democrats need another presidential nominee. … If the democrats are looking at a plan B , for me it has to be one of 3 names.. Kamala Harris Gavin newsome (governor of California) Gretchen whitimer (governor of Michigan)" Not sure that either Harris or Newsome can appeal to moderate Republican voters, who they will need to win. Whitimer would appear to have potential - two other names with recognition from the past are Gore and Kerry. Kerry is at the heart of Biden’s current campaign and in a position to step in. I doubt the Republicans could swift boat him a second time. | |||
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"We’ve known for years that Biden isn’t fit for office but the Democrats have lied for years and years about his capabilities. The people around him who have kept on enabling him and lying to everyone when we can all see the truth are frankly just animals, and it demonstrates how just entirely unfit for government the Democrats are. I’ve had many great holidays in the US and am generally very positive about it and its people if one can generalise, but frankly it’s become a total embarrassment and obviously dangerous to world peace, as we can see in Ukraine and Israel. It reminds me of the USSR in the 1970’s when everyone could see that their leader was near to death and people around him had to hold him up, but still the state kept telling everyone that he was the fittest man in the country. Disaster. You can say the same about the Republicans and Trump, though. He’s always had a dictatorial leaning and been a crook, now he’s a crook with dictatorial leanings who has also suffered a massive cognitive decline. “Dictatorial leanings”? How did these manifest themselves while he was in office? Trying to jail his opponents perhaps? There’s the whole refusal to accept the results of an election thing, to start with, his admiration for authoritarian leaders such as Putin and Kim Jong Un. His planned expansion of executive power and purge of civil servants. His vow to ‘go after’ the people who spoke out against his attempts to have the result of the 2020 election overturned. Trump is the most unsubtle propagandist politician ever, but he says things many in the population of America want to hear. That is a very Hitler-like approach; although he has not the intelligence of the infamous dictator. One can only hope his health deteriorates before voting day. What things is he saying that “many Americans want to hear”? Is Biden saying things that Americans don’t want to hear? Labour seem likely to win our own election. Are they winning it by saying things that people don’t want to hear? How does that work?" I dunno what they want to hear, and tbh I'm basing it on the crap he says and has said and hearing the cheers he gets. I generally avoid American politics as I don't understand how a misogynistic proven liar, potentially up for a prison sentence, can be up for presidency. It does not compute. And you cannot compare (or please don't compare) our politics with the USA. | |||
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"It’s quite an achievement for a party, in a country that is inherently conservative, to make it so easy for Labour to sweep to power, yet the Conservatives have done it twice in 30 years. It would be an achievement for an actual Labour party. But New Labour in 1997 was just a bunch of not-quite-Tories in red ties. They even had to change the name of the party to make themselves electable. This current group are no different, and they certainly aren't a traditional Labour party." Surely Corbyn showed that traditional Labour are unelectable. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol"Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet. | |||
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"Didn't see it - but read through the reports. And left feeling that a good portion of the Western Hemisphere is actually fooked. Roll on, The Rapture. "Fuck me, we've had the end is nigh, now the rapture, I'm sure someone will have inferred the current wars will escalate into the apocalypse. Anyone else wanna mention Armageddon? If peace treaties are held at Megiddo, North Israel, we're all in trouble. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet. "Did you really ask why that would be so bad?? You're definitely one for 'transparency' in politics, why wouldn't it apply here? | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
What evidence do you have that they are pulling the strings?the same as you have that there not "So you’ve no evidence then, cool. | |||
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Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
What evidence do you have that they are pulling the strings?the same as you have that there not
So you’ve no evidence then, cool."so you don’t think they counsel him at all just good friends lol cool | |||
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Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Did you really ask why that would be so bad??
You're definitely one for 'transparency' in politics, why wouldn't it apply here?"I didn’t say it was ok ethically but asked why it would be so bad in reality? All elder statesmen advise the next bunch, often in an unofficial capacity. How d’you think Cameron got back into the shop? | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Did you really ask why that would be so bad??
You're definitely one for 'transparency' in politics, why wouldn't it apply here?
I didn’t say it was ok ethically but asked why it would be so bad in reality? All elder statesmen advise the next bunch, often in an unofficial capacity. How d’you think Cameron got back into the shop?"And further point(s)… I’d argue that retired/out of office public servants still advising the next lot from their own party is not remotely the same as corporate lobby groups or foreign nations furthering their own interests. Should Biden admit it if true? IMO yes. But I really see Obama advising Biden in a very different light to Putin influencing Trump (no evidence just an example). Now if Hilary’s advice and influence over Biden resulted in her personal enrichment, then THAT would be dodgy. | |||
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Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet. "Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to. RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN! | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
What evidence do you have that they are pulling the strings?the same as you have that there not
So you’ve no evidence then, cool.so you don’t think they counsel him at all just good friends lol cool"You said he ONLY gets counsel from Obama and Hilary Clinton. | |||
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"US Democrats need another presidential nominee. … If the democrats are looking at a plan B , for me it has to be one of 3 names.. Kamala Harris Gavin newsome (governor of California) Gretchen whitimer (governor of Michigan)" "Not sure that either Harris or Newsome can appeal to moderate Republican voters, who they will need to win. Whitimer would appear to have potential - two other names with recognition from the past are Gore and Kerry. Kerry is at the heart of Biden’s current campaign and in a position to step in. I doubt the Republicans could swift boat him a second time." It doesn't matter how qualified anyone else is, they haven't got the money. Running for the presidency in the US is hellishly expensive and, since the Biden campaign has sucked up all the donations, there's none left for any new candidate to take over. | |||
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Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Did you really ask why that would be so bad??
You're definitely one for 'transparency' in politics, why wouldn't it apply here?
I didn’t say it was ok ethically but asked why it would be so bad in reality? All elder statesmen advise the next bunch, often in an unofficial capacity. How d’you think Cameron got back into the shop?"'Pulling strings' were the words used. I'd argue that's a bit different to 'advising'. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Did you really ask why that would be so bad??
You're definitely one for 'transparency' in politics, why wouldn't it apply here?
I didn’t say it was ok ethically but asked why it would be so bad in reality? All elder statesmen advise the next bunch, often in an unofficial capacity. How d’you think Cameron got back into the shop?
'Pulling strings' were the words used. I'd argue that's a bit different to 'advising'."" only counsel" is nearer to advising. That poster used both. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Did you really ask why that would be so bad??
You're definitely one for 'transparency' in politics, why wouldn't it apply here?
I didn’t say it was ok ethically but asked why it would be so bad in reality? All elder statesmen advise the next bunch, often in an unofficial capacity. How d’you think Cameron got back into the shop?
'Pulling strings' were the words used. I'd argue that's a bit different to 'advising'."Fair point. To what end would be the next question though. Is it to further their (ergo the Democrats) objectives or is it for more nefarious personal enrichment aims? | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
What evidence do you have that they are pulling the strings?the same as you have that there not
So you’ve no evidence then, cool.so you don’t think they counsel him at all just good friends lol cool
You said he ONLY gets counsel from Obama and Hilary Clinton."sorry I’m sure he gets counsel from one or two others who only who further there own interests | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Did you really ask why that would be so bad??
You're definitely one for 'transparency' in politics, why wouldn't it apply here?
I didn’t say it was ok ethically but asked why it would be so bad in reality? All elder statesmen advise the next bunch, often in an unofficial capacity. How d’you think Cameron got back into the shop?
'Pulling strings' were the words used. I'd argue that's a bit different to 'advising'.
Fair point. To what end would be the next question though. Is it to further their (ergo the Democrats) objectives or is it for more nefarious personal enrichment aims?"My personal opinion... personal enrichment. I believe that about almost all politicians. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
What evidence do you have that they are pulling the strings?the same as you have that there not
So you’ve no evidence then, cool.so you don’t think they counsel him at all just good friends lol cool
You said he ONLY gets counsel from Obama and Hilary Clinton.sorry I’m sure he gets counsel from one or two others who only who further there own interests "You don’t think it’s wise for a president to get advice from a former president and a former secretary of state? | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Did you really ask why that would be so bad??
You're definitely one for 'transparency' in politics, why wouldn't it apply here?
I didn’t say it was ok ethically but asked why it would be so bad in reality? All elder statesmen advise the next bunch, often in an unofficial capacity. How d’you think Cameron got back into the shop?
'Pulling strings' were the words used. I'd argue that's a bit different to 'advising'.
Fair point. To what end would be the next question though. Is it to further their (ergo the Democrats) objectives or is it for more nefarious personal enrichment aims?
My personal opinion... personal enrichment. I believe that about almost all politicians. "Cynical but…yeah | |||
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!!" And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? | |||
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama?" No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”…… | |||
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”…… "Who gives a fuck about the Trump Foundation? It had nothing to do witht he question I asked. Can you be absolutely certain they aren't earning from engagements with Biden? | |||
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”……
Who gives a fuck about the Trump Foundation? It had nothing to do witht he question I asked.
Can you be absolutely certain they aren't earning from engagements with Biden?"Absolutely… every single penny has to be accounted for if the event is labelled as a political fundraiser… election commission rules! The reason why I mentioned the trump foundation is that they were labelling events as political and charitable fundraisers.. but trump was found out to be using his charitable foundation for pocketing the money to use for various legal defence funds! | |||
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”……
Who gives a fuck about the Trump Foundation? It had nothing to do witht he question I asked.
Can you be absolutely certain they aren't earning from engagements with Biden?
Absolutely… every single penny has to be accounted for if the event is labelled as a political fundraiser… election commission rules!
The reason why I mentioned the trump foundation is that they were labelling events as political and charitable fundraisers.. but trump was found out to be using his charitable foundation for pocketing the money to use for various legal defence funds!
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”……
Who gives a fuck about the Trump Foundation? It had nothing to do witht he question I asked.
Can you be absolutely certain they aren't earning from engagements with Biden?
Absolutely… every single penny has to be accounted for if the event is labelled as a political fundraiser… election commission rules!
The reason why I mentioned the trump foundation is that they were labelling events as political and charitable fundraisers.. but trump was found out to be using his charitable foundation for pocketing the money to use for various legal defence funds!
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”……
Who gives a fuck about the Trump Foundation? It had nothing to do witht he question I asked.
Can you be absolutely certain they aren't earning from engagements with Biden?
Absolutely… every single penny has to be accounted for if the event is labelled as a political fundraiser… election commission rules!
The reason why I mentioned the trump foundation is that they were labelling events as political and charitable fundraisers.. but trump was found out to be using his charitable foundation for pocketing the money to use for various legal defence funds!
How much are the Obamas worth now compared to when he became President?
"About $1m more than Bush and $10m more than Bush Snr | |||
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”……
Who gives a fuck about the Trump Foundation? It had nothing to do witht he question I asked.
Can you be absolutely certain they aren't earning from engagements with Biden?
Absolutely… every single penny has to be accounted for if the event is labelled as a political fundraiser… election commission rules!
The reason why I mentioned the trump foundation is that they were labelling events as political and charitable fundraisers.. but trump was found out to be using his charitable foundation for pocketing the money to use for various legal defence funds!
How much are the Obamas worth now compared to when he became President?
"In keeping with all US presidents, apart from maybe Jimmy Carter, I imagine Obama is considerably richer than before he became president. | |||
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Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”……
Who gives a fuck about the Trump Foundation? It had nothing to do witht he question I asked.
Can you be absolutely certain they aren't earning from engagements with Biden?
Absolutely… every single penny has to be accounted for if the event is labelled as a political fundraiser… election commission rules!
The reason why I mentioned the trump foundation is that they were labelling events as political and charitable fundraisers.. but trump was found out to be using his charitable foundation for pocketing the money to use for various legal defence funds!
"Of course, in a parallel universe, Trump would always believe that the upcoming prosecutions and previous convictions are politically motivated so he is entitled to direct such funds towards his legal issues. | |||
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”……
Who gives a fuck about the Trump Foundation? It had nothing to do witht he question I asked.
Can you be absolutely certain they aren't earning from engagements with Biden?
Absolutely… every single penny has to be accounted for if the event is labelled as a political fundraiser… election commission rules!
The reason why I mentioned the trump foundation is that they were labelling events as political and charitable fundraisers.. but trump was found out to be using his charitable foundation for pocketing the money to use for various legal defence funds!
How much are the Obamas worth now compared to when he became President?
About $1m more than Bush and $10m more than Bush Snr"probably not as much as the Clinton’s | |||
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”……
Who gives a fuck about the Trump Foundation? It had nothing to do witht he question I asked.
Can you be absolutely certain they aren't earning from engagements with Biden?
Absolutely… every single penny has to be accounted for if the event is labelled as a political fundraiser… election commission rules!
The reason why I mentioned the trump foundation is that they were labelling events as political and charitable fundraisers.. but trump was found out to be using his charitable foundation for pocketing the money to use for various legal defence funds!
How much are the Obamas worth now compared to when he became President?
About $1m more than Bush and $10m more than Bush Snrprobably not as much as the Clinton’s "Why do you say that? | |||
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”……
Who gives a fuck about the Trump Foundation? It had nothing to do witht he question I asked.
Can you be absolutely certain they aren't earning from engagements with Biden?
Absolutely… every single penny has to be accounted for if the event is labelled as a political fundraiser… election commission rules!
The reason why I mentioned the trump foundation is that they were labelling events as political and charitable fundraisers.. but trump was found out to be using his charitable foundation for pocketing the money to use for various legal defence funds!
How much are the Obamas worth now compared to when he became President?
About $1m more than Bush and $10m more than Bush Snrprobably not as much as the Clinton’s "The Clintons are indeed richer. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss"“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown. | |||
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Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
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It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown."You seem very familiar, have you been here before under another name? | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown."Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence."This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it. Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss."Nah I’ll post what I want thanks | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks "“Truss crashed the economy”. Just hides so many uncomfortable truths. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths."I’m all ears please enlighten us | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us "You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something? | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?"I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0."Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0.
Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse."I recently read that in the top 100 seats that Labour is likely to win, only 38 of their candidates have any private sector experience. If they were reflective of the population as a whole that figure would have to be 79. Only a few of the Labour candidates had any experience in wealth or job creation. I have no doubt that this next government is going to be government by the public sector for the public sector, with catastrophic results for the country. Starmer is himself a dull, uninspiring career bureaucrat. Ill at ease around the public, he frequently struggles to answer basic questions. Under pressure he quickly reverts to “when I was Director of the CPS” to (in his own mind) reestablish his flailing credibility and status. He will be a truly awful PM in a totally unrepresentative government and Parliament. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0.
Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse.
I recently read that in the top 100 seats that Labour is likely to win, only 38 of their candidates have any private sector experience. If they were reflective of the population as a whole that figure would have to be 79. Only a few of the Labour candidates had any experience in wealth or job creation.
I have no doubt that this next government is going to be government by the public sector for the public sector, with catastrophic results for the country.
Starmer is himself a dull, uninspiring career bureaucrat. Ill at ease around the public, he frequently struggles to answer basic questions. Under pressure he quickly reverts to “when I was Director of the CPS” to (in his own mind) reestablish his flailing credibility and status.
He will be a truly awful PM in a totally unrepresentative government and Parliament."Ok but that’s just a bunch of opinions based on your prejudices. Cant you check a spreadsheet or something, to see if you have any evidence? | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0.
Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse.
I recently read that in the top 100 seats that Labour is likely to win, only 38 of their candidates have any private sector experience. If they were reflective of the population as a whole that figure would have to be 79. Only a few of the Labour candidates had any experience in wealth or job creation.
I have no doubt that this next government is going to be government by the public sector for the public sector, with catastrophic results for the country.
Starmer is himself a dull, uninspiring career bureaucrat. Ill at ease around the public, he frequently struggles to answer basic questions. Under pressure he quickly reverts to “when I was Director of the CPS” to (in his own mind) reestablish his flailing credibility and status.
He will be a truly awful PM in a totally unrepresentative government and Parliament.
Ok but that’s just a bunch of opinions based on your prejudices. Cant you check a spreadsheet or something, to see if you have any evidence?"The post you replied to is like a right wing AI that's been trained purely on Inforwars, Daily Mail, Daily Express and Fox News. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0.
Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse.
I recently read that in the top 100 seats that Labour is likely to win, only 38 of their candidates have any private sector experience. If they were reflective of the population as a whole that figure would have to be 79. Only a few of the Labour candidates had any experience in wealth or job creation.
I have no doubt that this next government is going to be government by the public sector for the public sector, with catastrophic results for the country.
Starmer is himself a dull, uninspiring career bureaucrat. Ill at ease around the public, he frequently struggles to answer basic questions. Under pressure he quickly reverts to “when I was Director of the CPS” to (in his own mind) reestablish his flailing credibility and status.
He will be a truly awful PM in a totally unrepresentative government and Parliament.
Ok but that’s just a bunch of opinions based on your prejudices. Cant you check a spreadsheet or something, to see if you have any evidence?
The post you replied to is like a right wing AI that's been trained purely on Inforwars, Daily Mail, Daily Express and Fox News."Does Grok AI have a fab profile? | |||
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”……
Who gives a fuck about the Trump Foundation? It had nothing to do witht he question I asked.
Can you be absolutely certain they aren't earning from engagements with Biden?
Absolutely… every single penny has to be accounted for if the event is labelled as a political fundraiser… election commission rules!
The reason why I mentioned the trump foundation is that they were labelling events as political and charitable fundraisers.. but trump was found out to be using his charitable foundation for pocketing the money to use for various legal defence funds!
How much are the Obamas worth now compared to when he became President?
About $1m more than Bush and $10m more than Bush Snrprobably not as much as the Clinton’s
Why do you say that?"arnt they worth a few hundred million if so not bad for politicians eh | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0.
Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse.
I recently read that in the top 100 seats that Labour is likely to win, only 38 of their candidates have any private sector experience. If they were reflective of the population as a whole that figure would have to be 79. Only a few of the Labour candidates had any experience in wealth or job creation.
I have no doubt that this next government is going to be government by the public sector for the public sector, with catastrophic results for the country.
Starmer is himself a dull, uninspiring career bureaucrat. Ill at ease around the public, he frequently struggles to answer basic questions. Under pressure he quickly reverts to “when I was Director of the CPS” to (in his own mind) reestablish his flailing credibility and status.
He will be a truly awful PM in a totally unrepresentative government and Parliament.
Ok but that’s just a bunch of opinions based on your prejudices. Cant you check a spreadsheet or something, to see if you have any evidence?
The post you replied to is like a right wing AI that's been trained purely on Inforwars, Daily Mail, Daily Express and Fox News."what papers and news channels do you use just out of curiosity? | |||
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”……
Who gives a fuck about the Trump Foundation? It had nothing to do witht he question I asked.
Can you be absolutely certain they aren't earning from engagements with Biden?
Absolutely… every single penny has to be accounted for if the event is labelled as a political fundraiser… election commission rules!
The reason why I mentioned the trump foundation is that they were labelling events as political and charitable fundraisers.. but trump was found out to be using his charitable foundation for pocketing the money to use for various legal defence funds!
How much are the Obamas worth now compared to when he became President?
About $1m more than Bush and $10m more than Bush Snrprobably not as much as the Clinton’s
Why do you say that?arnt they worth a few hundred million if so not bad for politicians eh "There’s not a modern US president who hasn’t at some time in their life been a multimillionaire, so what’s your point about the Obamas in particular? | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0.
Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse.
I recently read that in the top 100 seats that Labour is likely to win, only 38 of their candidates have any private sector experience. If they were reflective of the population as a whole that figure would have to be 79. Only a few of the Labour candidates had any experience in wealth or job creation.
I have no doubt that this next government is going to be government by the public sector for the public sector, with catastrophic results for the country.
Starmer is himself a dull, uninspiring career bureaucrat. Ill at ease around the public, he frequently struggles to answer basic questions. Under pressure he quickly reverts to “when I was Director of the CPS” to (in his own mind) reestablish his flailing credibility and status.
He will be a truly awful PM in a totally unrepresentative government and Parliament."That’s lovely but you said… "Just hides so many uncomfortable truths" So we are still waiting for you to enlighten us on Truss’ genius. Come on now tick tock | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0.
Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse.
I recently read that in the top 100 seats that Labour is likely to win, only 38 of their candidates have any private sector experience. If they were reflective of the population as a whole that figure would have to be 79. Only a few of the Labour candidates had any experience in wealth or job creation.
I have no doubt that this next government is going to be government by the public sector for the public sector, with catastrophic results for the country.
Starmer is himself a dull, uninspiring career bureaucrat. Ill at ease around the public, he frequently struggles to answer basic questions. Under pressure he quickly reverts to “when I was Director of the CPS” to (in his own mind) reestablish his flailing credibility and status.
He will be a truly awful PM in a totally unrepresentative government and Parliament.
Ok but that’s just a bunch of opinions based on your prejudices. Cant you check a spreadsheet or something, to see if you have any evidence?
The post you replied to is like a right wing AI that's been trained purely on Inforwars, Daily Mail, Daily Express and Fox News.what papers and news channels do you use just out of curiosity?"A variety of non-hate, non-outrage based news outlets. Such as sky, independent, BBC, Reuters, channel four etc etc. Also find sites like MediaLens and science feedback that provide analysis on what's reported, how it's reported, how accurate it is etc. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0.
Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse.
I recently read that in the top 100 seats that Labour is likely to win, only 38 of their candidates have any private sector experience. If they were reflective of the population as a whole that figure would have to be 79. Only a few of the Labour candidates had any experience in wealth or job creation.
I have no doubt that this next government is going to be government by the public sector for the public sector, with catastrophic results for the country.
Starmer is himself a dull, uninspiring career bureaucrat. Ill at ease around the public, he frequently struggles to answer basic questions. Under pressure he quickly reverts to “when I was Director of the CPS” to (in his own mind) reestablish his flailing credibility and status.
He will be a truly awful PM in a totally unrepresentative government and Parliament."When I watch the head to head, I thought SKS stayed cool under the crap sunak was throwing at him, shouting over him and the woman, and the interruptions. Probably make for a better PM. | |||
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”……
Who gives a fuck about the Trump Foundation? It had nothing to do witht he question I asked.
Can you be absolutely certain they aren't earning from engagements with Biden?
Absolutely… every single penny has to be accounted for if the event is labelled as a political fundraiser… election commission rules!
The reason why I mentioned the trump foundation is that they were labelling events as political and charitable fundraisers.. but trump was found out to be using his charitable foundation for pocketing the money to use for various legal defence funds!
How much are the Obamas worth now compared to when he became President?
About $1m more than Bush and $10m more than Bush Snrprobably not as much as the Clinton’s
Why do you say that?arnt they worth a few hundred million if so not bad for politicians eh
There’s not a modern US president who hasn’t at some time in their life been a multimillionaire, so what’s your point about the Obamas in particular?"think you will find I was talking about the Clinton’s in particular lol | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0.
Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse.
I recently read that in the top 100 seats that Labour is likely to win, only 38 of their candidates have any private sector experience. If they were reflective of the population as a whole that figure would have to be 79. Only a few of the Labour candidates had any experience in wealth or job creation.
I have no doubt that this next government is going to be government by the public sector for the public sector, with catastrophic results for the country.
Starmer is himself a dull, uninspiring career bureaucrat. Ill at ease around the public, he frequently struggles to answer basic questions. Under pressure he quickly reverts to “when I was Director of the CPS” to (in his own mind) reestablish his flailing credibility and status.
He will be a truly awful PM in a totally unrepresentative government and Parliament.
Ok but that’s just a bunch of opinions based on your prejudices. Cant you check a spreadsheet or something, to see if you have any evidence?
The post you replied to is like a right wing AI that's been trained purely on Inforwars, Daily Mail, Daily Express and Fox News.what papers and news channels do you use just out of curiosity?
A variety of non-hate, non-outrage based news outlets. Such as sky, independent, BBC, Reuters, channel four etc etc. Also find sites like MediaLens and science feedback that provide analysis on what's reported, how it's reported, how accurate it is etc."aw that’s great sky bbc1 channel 4 very neutral channels | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0.
Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse.
I recently read that in the top 100 seats that Labour is likely to win, only 38 of their candidates have any private sector experience. If they were reflective of the population as a whole that figure would have to be 79. Only a few of the Labour candidates had any experience in wealth or job creation.
I have no doubt that this next government is going to be government by the public sector for the public sector, with catastrophic results for the country.
Starmer is himself a dull, uninspiring career bureaucrat. Ill at ease around the public, he frequently struggles to answer basic questions. Under pressure he quickly reverts to “when I was Director of the CPS” to (in his own mind) reestablish his flailing credibility and status.
He will be a truly awful PM in a totally unrepresentative government and Parliament.
Ok but that’s just a bunch of opinions based on your prejudices. Cant you check a spreadsheet or something, to see if you have any evidence?
The post you replied to is like a right wing AI that's been trained purely on Inforwars, Daily Mail, Daily Express and Fox News.what papers and news channels do you use just out of curiosity?
A variety of non-hate, non-outrage based news outlets. Such as sky, independent, BBC, Reuters, channel four etc etc. Also find sites like MediaLens and science feedback that provide analysis on what's reported, how it's reported, how accurate it is etc.aw that’s great sky bbc1 channel 4 very neutral channels "Fair. The BBC always leans more towards favouring the government, and have a huge boner for giving airtime to Farage. But that's why I go for a variety of news sources. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0.
Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse.
I recently read that in the top 100 seats that Labour is likely to win, only 38 of their candidates have any private sector experience. If they were reflective of the population as a whole that figure would have to be 79. Only a few of the Labour candidates had any experience in wealth or job creation.
I have no doubt that this next government is going to be government by the public sector for the public sector, with catastrophic results for the country.
Starmer is himself a dull, uninspiring career bureaucrat. Ill at ease around the public, he frequently struggles to answer basic questions. Under pressure he quickly reverts to “when I was Director of the CPS” to (in his own mind) reestablish his flailing credibility and status.
He will be a truly awful PM in a totally unrepresentative government and Parliament.
Ok but that’s just a bunch of opinions based on your prejudices. Cant you check a spreadsheet or something, to see if you have any evidence?
The post you replied to is like a right wing AI that's been trained purely on Inforwars, Daily Mail, Daily Express and Fox News.what papers and news channels do you use just out of curiosity?
A variety of non-hate, non-outrage based news outlets. Such as sky, independent, BBC, Reuters, channel four etc etc. Also find sites like MediaLens and science feedback that provide analysis on what's reported, how it's reported, how accurate it is etc.aw that’s great sky bbc1 channel 4 very neutral channels
Fair. The BBC always leans more towards favouring the government, and have a huge boner for giving airtime to Farage.
But that's why I go for a variety of news sources."bbc presenters almost vomit when they have to interview farage you can see the hate channel 4 just tried to fit recon up with an actor there’s not much fair in the news channels now sadly | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0.
Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse.
I recently read that in the top 100 seats that Labour is likely to win, only 38 of their candidates have any private sector experience. If they were reflective of the population as a whole that figure would have to be 79. Only a few of the Labour candidates had any experience in wealth or job creation.
I have no doubt that this next government is going to be government by the public sector for the public sector, with catastrophic results for the country.
Starmer is himself a dull, uninspiring career bureaucrat. Ill at ease around the public, he frequently struggles to answer basic questions. Under pressure he quickly reverts to “when I was Director of the CPS” to (in his own mind) reestablish his flailing credibility and status.
He will be a truly awful PM in a totally unrepresentative government and Parliament.
Ok but that’s just a bunch of opinions based on your prejudices. Cant you check a spreadsheet or something, to see if you have any evidence?
The post you replied to is like a right wing AI that's been trained purely on Inforwars, Daily Mail, Daily Express and Fox News.what papers and news channels do you use just out of curiosity?
A variety of non-hate, non-outrage based news outlets. Such as sky, independent, BBC, Reuters, channel four etc etc. Also find sites like MediaLens and science feedback that provide analysis on what's reported, how it's reported, how accurate it is etc.aw that’s great sky bbc1 channel 4 very neutral channels
Fair. The BBC always leans more towards favouring the government, and have a huge boner for giving airtime to Farage.
But that's why I go for a variety of news sources."bbc presenters almost vomit when they have to interview farage you can see the hate channel 4 just tried to fit recon up with an actor there’s not much fair in the news channels now sadly | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0.
Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse.
I recently read that in the top 100 seats that Labour is likely to win, only 38 of their candidates have any private sector experience. If they were reflective of the population as a whole that figure would have to be 79. Only a few of the Labour candidates had any experience in wealth or job creation.
I have no doubt that this next government is going to be government by the public sector for the public sector, with catastrophic results for the country.
Starmer is himself a dull, uninspiring career bureaucrat. Ill at ease around the public, he frequently struggles to answer basic questions. Under pressure he quickly reverts to “when I was Director of the CPS” to (in his own mind) reestablish his flailing credibility and status.
He will be a truly awful PM in a totally unrepresentative government and Parliament.
Ok but that’s just a bunch of opinions based on your prejudices. Cant you check a spreadsheet or something, to see if you have any evidence?
The post you replied to is like a right wing AI that's been trained purely on Inforwars, Daily Mail, Daily Express and Fox News.what papers and news channels do you use just out of curiosity?
A variety of non-hate, non-outrage based news outlets. Such as sky, independent, BBC, Reuters, channel four etc etc. Also find sites like MediaLens and science feedback that provide analysis on what's reported, how it's reported, how accurate it is etc.aw that’s great sky bbc1 channel 4 very neutral channels
Fair. The BBC always leans more towards favouring the government, and have a huge boner for giving airtime to Farage.
But that's why I go for a variety of news sources.bbc presenters almost vomit when they have to interview farage you can see the hate channel 4 just tried to fit recon up with an actor there’s not much fair in the news channels now sadly"They give him a ridiculous amount of airtime. As an example. Farage 36 appearances on question time. Not an MP. Leader of a party with no MPs (until very recently when Lee Anderson defected from Reform-Lite to Reform). Caroline Lucas 26 appearances. MP. Leader of a political party. In any case. Getting your news from a variety of non-outrage and non-hate based outlets is probably better. | |||
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I would probably vomit twice if I had to be in the same room as Farage."why tho what is it you hate about him so much you say you get ur news from none hate channels but display hate towards farage ? | |||
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I would probably vomit twice if I had to be in the same room as Farage.why tho what is it you hate about him so much you say you get ur news from none hate channels but display hate towards farage ?"Would you buy a second hand car from Farage? I wouldn’t! | |||
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"Loving the Clinton and Obama pulling Biden strings conversation.. interesting getting the uk view of it…. Wrong reasoning why… but interesting The reason why you see Clinton and Obama at events with Biden are that they are still big money attractors for donators.. Huge amounts of money!!!!! That money goes to both the Biden campaign, and filters down to candidates for house and senate races!!!! And some into the pockets of Clinton and Obama? No… this isn’t the now defunct and disbanded “trump foundation”……
Who gives a fuck about the Trump Foundation? It had nothing to do witht he question I asked.
Can you be absolutely certain they aren't earning from engagements with Biden?
Absolutely… every single penny has to be accounted for if the event is labelled as a political fundraiser… election commission rules!
The reason why I mentioned the trump foundation is that they were labelling events as political and charitable fundraisers.. but trump was found out to be using his charitable foundation for pocketing the money to use for various legal defence funds!
How much are the Obamas worth now compared to when he became President?
About $1m more than Bush and $10m more than Bush Snrprobably not as much as the Clinton’s
Why do you say that?arnt they worth a few hundred million if so not bad for politicians eh
There’s not a modern US president who hasn’t at some time in their life been a multimillionaire, so what’s your point about the Obamas in particular?think you will find I was talking about the Clinton’s in particular lol"Ok, what’s your point about the Clinton’s in particular? | |||
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I would probably vomit twice if I had to be in the same room as Farage.why tho what is it you hate about him so much you say you get ur news from none hate channels but display hate towards farage ?
Would you buy a second hand car from Farage? I wouldn’t!"eh lol would you buy one of sunak is starmer out the 3 who says it like it is and isn’t bothered if it’s not pc I would trust farage over them two anyday | |||
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I would probably vomit twice if I had to be in the same room as Farage.why tho what is it you hate about him so much you say you get ur news from none hate channels but display hate towards farage ?
Would you buy a second hand car from Farage? I wouldn’t!"Nigel is 100% more honest than any of the clowns in the LibLabCon. I for one (of many) will definitely be voting for him. | |||
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"In all the talk of our general election I think the more interesting one will happen Thursday night/ Friday morning The 1st US presidential debate Just thought I’d start this here just in case anyone had any thoughts going in… I may live update or watch it Friday morning and give my thoughts Fabio, is it possible that Biden called for this debate before the Democrat Congress endorsement which I read is unusual knowing he's not up to it and looking for a way out with the time to nominate another candidate against Trump? This debate was early for a few reasons… After the debates last time, neither side trusted the election debate commission to run them.. so these are being organised between the 2 sides and the broadcasters themselves… Also, you don’t normally have debates until before parties formally nominate… This time round the sides (so far) have only agreed to two.. the one last night… and one on ABC in September There is no formal way for the Democratic Party to oust him as such, but if the pressure is there he could say he wouldn’t run, and they would have to sort something out at the convention! After last night I think it would be the right thing to stand aside for the obvious health issues his age brings, plus it would be welcomed by the Democrats rather than the alternative of them officially nominating in August knowing he won't win.. Hopefully unlike Trump, Biden might listen to family and other wise counsel.. the only counsel he gets is from Hilary and obama tho that’s the problem Where does one acquire such intimate knowledge of the workings of Biden’s White House?not the bbc that’s for sure have you not seen him at events with Hilary and Obama try YouTube Im confused, how does the fact he appears at events with Obama and Hilary Clinton equate to him only getting counsel from them? Cos it does..
Never underestimate the power of gross assumptions and yeah but, no but..
I have seen something that could be viewed, in the right light and if you squint a bit, as backing up a preconceived belief of mine, therefore it is proof!the fact that Hilary and Obama are still lurking about and you don’t think there pulling the strings is scary lol
Even IF they were. Why would that be SO bad? Both had more intelligence and statesman like aptitude in their finger nail than either current candidate! And let’s face it…Putin probably has his hand up Trump’s ass using him as a glove puppet.
Ah the old “Trump is a Putin asset” angle. You are so 2016! Have you moved on from anything? Still fighting yesterday’s battles, spewing out the same old debunked lines that the Democrats spent years foaming out of their mouths after Clinton didn’t get the job she felt she was entitled to.
RuSsIa CoLlUsIoN!
It really is you isn’t it? Started a new profile 5 weeks ago because you couldn’t keep away! How’s the Tufton St shills doing these days?
The Tufton Street reach is far and wide……
About to be reduced. Been on steady decline since the ultimate Tufton shill Truss
“Truss” is just an excuse the Left have made up to enable them to go on spending money that they haven’t got while they are in power. Oh and to conveniently memory hole all that spending they approved in lockdown.
Thick Lizzie and her sidekick (who she loyally threw under the bus) Kamikwazi are not an excuse for anything except incompetence.
This thread is actually about the Trump Biden debate. I appreciate it’s been a tough day and you’d prefer not to talk about it.
Maybe start another thread about Liz Truss.
Nah I’ll post what I want thanks
“Truss crashed the economy”.
Just hides so many uncomfortable truths.
I’m all ears please enlighten us
You mean you don’t realise that what Liz Truss did to the economy just shows how LiEbOuR are even worse, or something?
I might be going out on a limb here but I’m thinking your knowledge of economics and finance is a big fat 0.
Feel free to broaden my knowledge and tell me how Liz Truss crashing the economy shows Labour will be worse.
I recently read that in the top 100 seats that Labour is likely to win, only 38 of their candidates have any private sector experience. If they were reflective of the population as a whole that figure would have to be 79. Only a few of the Labour candidates had any experience in wealth or job creation.
I have no doubt that this next government is going to be government by the public sector for the public sector, with catastrophic results for the country.
Starmer is himself a dull, uninspiring career bureaucrat. Ill at ease around the public, he frequently struggles to answer basic questions. Under pressure he quickly reverts to “when I was Director of the CPS” to (in his own mind) reestablish his flailing credibility and status.
He will be a truly awful PM in a totally unrepresentative government and Parliament.
Ok but that’s just a bunch of opinions based on your prejudices. Cant you check a spreadsheet or something, to see if you have any evidence?
The post you replied to is like a right wing AI that's been trained purely on Inforwars, Daily Mail, Daily Express and Fox News.what papers and news channels do you use just out of curiosity?
A variety of non-hate, non-outrage based news outlets. Such as sky, independent, BBC, Reuters, channel four etc etc. Also find sites like MediaLens and science feedback that provide analysis on what's reported, how it's reported, how accurate it is etc.aw that’s great sky bbc1 channel 4 very neutral channels
Fair. The BBC always leans more towards favouring the government, and have a huge boner for giving airtime to Farage.
But that's why I go for a variety of news sources."Are the Tories centre-left? | |||
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I would probably vomit twice if I had to be in the same room as Farage.why tho what is it you hate about him so much you say you get ur news from none hate channels but display hate towards farage ?
Would you buy a second hand car from Farage? I wouldn’t!eh lol would you buy one of sunak is starmer out the 3 who says it like it is and isn’t bothered if it’s not pc I would trust farage over them two anyday "That’s your prerogative. I trust none of them. | |||
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I would probably vomit twice if I had to be in the same room as Farage.why tho what is it you hate about him so much you say you get ur news from none hate channels but display hate towards farage ?
Would you buy a second hand car from Farage? I wouldn’t!
Nigel is 100% more honest than any of the clowns in the LibLabCon. I for one (of many) will definitely be voting for him."If you live in Saltdean you won’t be. They have not put forward a candidate in the Kemptown & Peacehaven constituency | |||
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" But that's why I go for a variety of news sources.bbc presenters almost vomit when they have to interview farage you can see the hate channel 4 just tried to fit recon up with an actor there’s not much fair in the news channels now sadly" Foxy… I thought you were better than the conspiratorial stuff… Do you really think that bbc question time audience were harsher on farage, that the weeks previous were on Sunak and starmer… I don’t Go an look at all 7 of the panorama leaders interviews… I think nick robinson actually did a bloody good job at holding their feet to the fire! And the channel 4 expose.. well reform were dismissing it and calling it “pub talk” in the morning… by the afternoon the story changed to “we have been stitched up”… which is why I am really glad Fiona Bruce went through half a dozen other quotes from prospective reform candidates to show it isn’t just a one off! The bloke admitted to being an actor in his spare time…. He also admitted to knowing farage! Are you only supposed to believe him when it suits? Bit selective that!! So we | |||
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" But that's why I go for a variety of news sources.bbc presenters almost vomit when they have to interview farage you can see the hate channel 4 just tried to fit recon up with an actor there’s not much fair in the news channels now sadly Foxy… I thought you were better than the conspiratorial stuff… Do you really think that bbc question time audience were harsher on farage, that the weeks previous were on Sunak and starmer… I don’t Go an look at all 7 of the panorama leaders interviews… I think nick robinson actually did a bloody good job at holding their feet to the fire! And the channel 4 expose.. well reform were dismissing it and calling it “pub talk” in the morning… by the afternoon the story changed to “we have been stitched up”… which is why I am really glad Fiona Bruce went through half a dozen other quotes from prospective reform candidates to show it isn’t just a one off! The bloke admitted to being an actor in his spare time…. He also admitted to knowing farage! Are you only supposed to believe him when it suits? Bit selective that!! So we " _abio Fiona Bruce asked him about the 3 in the pub he said there gone and didn’t agree with there views not much more he could of said he only met farage on day of filming walked up said help while farage was working and he dienes been an actor on the fone twice before admitting he was an actor he doesn’t even speak like he did on channel 4 if you don’t think it’s a stick up fuck knows what it is then lol | |||
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I would probably vomit twice if I had to be in the same room as Farage.why tho what is it you hate about him so much you say you get ur news from none hate channels but display hate towards farage ?"Don't need the news on this one. Just the hate, division and bullshit that spews directly from his own mouth. | |||
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I would probably vomit twice if I had to be in the same room as Farage.why tho what is it you hate about him so much you say you get ur news from none hate channels but display hate towards farage ?
Would you buy a second hand car from Farage? I wouldn’t!
Nigel is 100% more honest than any of the clowns in the LibLabCon. I for one (of many) will definitely be voting for him."Sometimes this place feels like a competition to who can say the most ridiculous thing, and for people to believe they're serious. | |||
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I would probably vomit twice if I had to be in the same room as Farage.why tho what is it you hate about him so much you say you get ur news from none hate channels but display hate towards farage ?
Don't need the news on this one. Just the hate, division and bullshit that spews directly from his own mouth."what hate can you give us an example pls ? | |||
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I would probably vomit twice if I had to be in the same room as Farage.why tho what is it you hate about him so much you say you get ur news from none hate channels but display hate towards farage ?
Don't need the news on this one. Just the hate, division and bullshit that spews directly from his own mouth.what hate can you give us an example pls ?"Just look up pretty much anything he says, there's so much to choose from. I'm assuming you can't be arsed and your 'asking for proof that the moon isn't made of cheese'. How about this: he "agreed with Enoch Powell’s Rivers of Blood speech". It talking about Muslims "they're coming here to take us over". Or he felt "uncomfortable hearing foreign languages on the tube" or saying he would be concerned living next door to Romanians, or trying to demonise people with HIV and AIDS or all the stuff he said when he was younger to Jewish kids at school about Hitler etc etc. | |||
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"Wow I’m waching him now Fiona Bruce debate nothing zero madder racist he agreed with a speech from the 60s/70s and said something when he was young your saying I’m too lazy to see for meself iv wached almost everything in the last week and still no racist remarks like I said on a diffrent thread all party’s have issues with this and need to deal with it asap it’s not exclusive to reform " Fair play. If you don't think racism, xenophobia and Islamaphobic are hateful that's cool. But you're arguing that the moon is made of cheese. The burden of proof is on you. | |||
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"Wow I’m waching him now Fiona Bruce debate nothing zero madder racist he agreed with a speech from the 60s/70s and said something when he was young your saying I’m too lazy to see for meself iv wached almost everything in the last week and still no racist remarks like I said on a diffrent thread all party’s have issues with this and need to deal with it asap it’s not exclusive to reform " Then you also didn't watch him proudly say that he absorbed a lot of support from the BNP. Amazing | |||
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I would probably vomit twice if I had to be in the same room as Farage.why tho what is it you hate about him so much you say you get ur news from none hate channels but display hate towards farage ?
Don't need the news on this one. Just the hate, division and bullshit that spews directly from his own mouth.what hate can you give us an example pls ?
Just look up pretty much anything he says, there's so much to choose from. I'm assuming you can't be arsed and your 'asking for proof that the moon isn't made of cheese'.
How about this: he "agreed with Enoch Powell’s Rivers of Blood speech". It talking about Muslims "they're coming here to take us over". Or he felt "uncomfortable hearing foreign languages on the tube" or saying he would be concerned living next door to Romanians, or trying to demonise people with HIV and AIDS or all the stuff he said when he was younger to Jewish kids at school about Hitler etc etc."There was a time when we didn't have Islamic extremism in this country. This extremism has resulted in the cold blooded murder of innocent... Children. Women. Men. A serving soldier. Homosexuals. This is a big concern for me and millions of others. So who takes responsibility for all these murders that will continue. | |||
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"Wow I’m waching him now Fiona Bruce debate nothing zero madder racist he agreed with a speech from the 60s/70s and said something when he was young your saying I’m too lazy to see for meself iv wached almost everything in the last week and still no racist remarks like I said on a diffrent thread all party’s have issues with this and need to deal with it asap it’s not exclusive to reform Then you also didn't watch him proudly say that he absorbed a lot of support from the BNP. Amazing " he said if ppl voted for bnp as a protest vote against the goverment they where welcome and that he fone more to break up far right party’s than any other mp I voted torry last ge as a protest to labour does that make me a staunch conservative now thousands of ppl on marches sing from river to the sea but are they really racist or just stupid | |||
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I would probably vomit twice if I had to be in the same room as Farage.why tho what is it you hate about him so much you say you get ur news from none hate channels but display hate towards farage ?
Don't need the news on this one. Just the hate, division and bullshit that spews directly from his own mouth.what hate can you give us an example pls ?
Just look up pretty much anything he says, there's so much to choose from. I'm assuming you can't be arsed and your 'asking for proof that the moon isn't made of cheese'.
How about this: he "agreed with Enoch Powell’s Rivers of Blood speech". It talking about Muslims "they're coming here to take us over". Or he felt "uncomfortable hearing foreign languages on the tube" or saying he would be concerned living next door to Romanians, or trying to demonise people with HIV and AIDS or all the stuff he said when he was younger to Jewish kids at school about Hitler etc etc.
There was a time when we didn't have Islamic extremism in this country.
This extremism has resulted in the cold blooded murder of innocent...
Children.
Women.
Men.
A serving soldier.
Homosexuals.
This is a big concern for me and millions of others.
So who takes responsibility for all these murders that will continue.
"We've always had extremism. Politicians used it as a tool to manipulate the electorate just as they do now. | |||
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