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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
25 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

I hope that when Labour steps into power, that this forum is FILLED with all the WONDERFUL & HAPPY THINGS that they are going to bring us.

Let's face it, we need it, don't we?

We have been through Brexit. Covid. A World Financial Crash. The Ukraine Invasion and Energy Crisis. Then the Attacks on Israel.

I hope that we are going to Turn the Page - Make a New Start - Make us Trust in MP's - Get us Healthier than we have ever been! Give the Young Doctors the 35% Pay Rise. Be able to Warm our Homes with Cheap Energy. See that Child Poverty Ended. Have a Fair and Well Managed Migration System and ALL of those Gang Masters Smashed by BFC and put in Prison.

I can't wait to read all of those Happy, Up-Lifting Stories on here Every Single Morning.

(sorry - I'm filling up a bit now Going for a coffee)

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By *irldnCouple
25 weeks ago

Brighton


"I hope that when Labour steps into power, that this forum is FILLED with all the WONDERFUL & HAPPY THINGS that they are going to bring us.

Let's face it, we need it, don't we?

We have been through Brexit. Covid. A World Financial Crash. The Ukraine Invasion and Energy Crisis. Then the Attacks on Israel.

I hope that we are going to Turn the Page - Make a New Start - Make us Trust in MP's - Get us Healthier than we have ever been! Give the Young Doctors the 35% Pay Rise. Be able to Warm our Homes with Cheap Energy. See that Child Poverty Ended. Have a Fair and Well Managed Migration System and ALL of those Gang Masters Smashed by BFC and put in Prison.

I can't wait to read all of those Happy, Up-Lifting Stories on here Every Single Morning.

(sorry - I'm filling up a bit now Going for a coffee)"

Interesting use of capitalisation! Hope you didn’t use that when you did your degree?

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
25 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"I hope that when Labour steps into power, that this forum is FILLED with all the WONDERFUL & HAPPY THINGS that they are going to bring us.

Let's face it, we need it, don't we?

We have been through Brexit. Covid. A World Financial Crash. The Ukraine Invasion and Energy Crisis. Then the Attacks on Israel.

I hope that we are going to Turn the Page - Make a New Start - Make us Trust in MP's - Get us Healthier than we have ever been! Give the Young Doctors the 35% Pay Rise. Be able to Warm our Homes with Cheap Energy. See that Child Poverty Ended. Have a Fair and Well Managed Migration System and ALL of those Gang Masters Smashed by BFC and put in Prison.

I can't wait to read all of those Happy, Up-Lifting Stories on here Every Single Morning.

(sorry - I'm filling up a bit now Going for a coffee)

Interesting use of capitalisation! Hope you didn’t use that when you did your degree? "

PReCisEly tHe pOint reOlly buT hey HO

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By *irldnCouple
25 weeks ago

Brighton


"I hope that when Labour steps into power, that this forum is FILLED with all the WONDERFUL & HAPPY THINGS that they are going to bring us.

Let's face it, we need it, don't we?

We have been through Brexit. Covid. A World Financial Crash. The Ukraine Invasion and Energy Crisis. Then the Attacks on Israel.

I hope that we are going to Turn the Page - Make a New Start - Make us Trust in MP's - Get us Healthier than we have ever been! Give the Young Doctors the 35% Pay Rise. Be able to Warm our Homes with Cheap Energy. See that Child Poverty Ended. Have a Fair and Well Managed Migration System and ALL of those Gang Masters Smashed by BFC and put in Prison.

I can't wait to read all of those Happy, Up-Lifting Stories on here Every Single Morning.

(sorry - I'm filling up a bit now Going for a coffee)

Interesting use of capitalisation! Hope you didn’t use that when you did your degree?

PReCisEly tHe pOint reOlly buT hey HO"

Why is it the point? Bit subtle for me I’m afraid. I must be thick

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
25 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

The PoInT is My PoSt AboVe.

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By *FSEstainingCouple
25 weeks ago

Dartford

Meh, Labour are so two faced, saying one thing, then another, they will be just as bad as the Tories. Two cheeks of the same arse.

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By *otMe66Man
25 weeks ago

Terra Firma

Are we going to get the sunlit uplands after all, sounds like it.

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By *otMe66Man
25 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Meh, Labour are so two faced, saying one thing, then another, they will be just as bad as the Tories. Two cheeks of the same arse. "

Red and individual hypocrisy is respected by the people of our country, blue hypocrisy is bad though.

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By *irldnCouple
25 weeks ago

Brighton


"The PoInT is My PoSt AboVe. "

I get the post but not your use if capitalisation. Are you, subtly, trying to indicate that these are actual things rather than sentiments.

Using capitals in the way you have in the post I am quoting is an online way of indicating bizarre or silly thinking. But capitalising the first letter of a word mid-sentence implies a proper noun. So are you trying to indicate these are actual things rather than simply ideas and concepts?

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By *aribbean King 1985Man
25 weeks ago

South West London

At the moment Starmer looks likely (but not certain) to win and he could win but Im hoping he doesnt win and in fact I hope he gets hammered

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By *aribbean King 1985Man
25 weeks ago

South West London

On voting day of course

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By *irldnCouple
25 weeks ago

Brighton


"At the moment Starmer looks likely (but not certain) to win and he could win but Im hoping he doesnt win and in fact I hope he gets hammered "

You surprise me. It’s not as if you have told us that sentiment before! You should be more open snd share your thoughts more often

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By *idnight RamblerMan
25 weeks ago

Pershore

Indeed, our lives will be so much easier under Labour's socialist paradise. Their famed Magic Money tree will bring us all first rate services and minimal tax. As Mrs T said Rejoice!!

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
25 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"The PoInT is My PoSt AboVe.

I get the post but not your use if capitalisation. Are you, subtly, trying to indicate that these are actual things rather than sentiments.

Using capitals in the way you have in the post I am quoting is an online way of indicating bizarre or silly thinking. But capitalising the first letter of a word mid-sentence implies a proper noun. So are you trying to indicate these are actual things rather than simply ideas and concepts?"

Not quick this morning huh?

As 'News Titles' That's most likely how they would look when it's reported in the Media that Labour has solved them all and they are 'Good News' Stories. And we can all soak it up as being something wonderful!!

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By *irldnCouple
25 weeks ago

Brighton


"The PoInT is My PoSt AboVe.

I get the post but not your use if capitalisation. Are you, subtly, trying to indicate that these are actual things rather than sentiments.

Using capitals in the way you have in the post I am quoting is an online way of indicating bizarre or silly thinking. But capitalising the first letter of a word mid-sentence implies a proper noun. So are you trying to indicate these are actual things rather than simply ideas and concepts?

Not quick this morning huh?

As 'News Titles' That's most likely how they would look when it's reported in the Media that Labour has solved them all and they are 'Good News' Stories. And we can all soak it up as being something wonderful!!

"

Gotcha

News Headlines To Convince People

Was too subtle for me

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
25 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"The PoInT is My PoSt AboVe.

I get the post but not your use if capitalisation. Are you, subtly, trying to indicate that these are actual things rather than sentiments.

Using capitals in the way you have in the post I am quoting is an online way of indicating bizarre or silly thinking. But capitalising the first letter of a word mid-sentence implies a proper noun. So are you trying to indicate these are actual things rather than simply ideas and concepts?

Not quick this morning huh?

As 'News Titles' That's most likely how they would look when it's reported in the Media that Labour has solved them all and they are 'Good News' Stories. And we can all soak it up as being something wonderful!!

Gotcha

News Headlines To Convince People

Was too subtle for me "

Yup.

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By *oo hotCouple
25 weeks ago

North West

All anyone needs from any government is that they quietly get on with governing the country and making it a good place to live, work and grow old in. After that everything else sorts itself out because employers are attracted to a healthy, educated and mobile workforce and to an environment where people have money to spend.

It feels to me that for at least the last decade or so, voices in the media and on the extremes have been provoking anger and a reaction to stories that otherwise would not represent half a column on page 7 of a newspaper.

I am personally tired of political drama and would be very happy if the next five years we just have a quiet political landscape where politicians just get on with their jobs and don’t feel the need to generate anger and division.

I feel the Starmer’s government to be will usher in a period of normal politics again, and this is long overdue.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
25 weeks ago

golden fields


"All anyone needs from any government is that they quietly get on with governing the country and making it a good place to live, work and grow old in. After that everything else sorts itself out because employers are attracted to a healthy, educated and mobile workforce and to an environment where people have money to spend.

It feels to me that for at least the last decade or so, voices in the media and on the extremes have been provoking anger and a reaction to stories that otherwise would not represent half a column on page 7 of a newspaper.

I am personally tired of political drama and would be very happy if the next five years we just have a quiet political landscape where politicians just get on with their jobs and don’t feel the need to generate anger and division.

I feel the Starmer’s government to be will usher in a period of normal politics again, and this is long overdue."

It would be wonderful if we had a government that wasn't constantly cycling through attacks on various sections of society.

If Labour get into government, I'm not convinced they'll deviate from this tactic. It's been very successful for the Tories for so long.

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By *usie pTV/TS
25 weeks ago

taunton

My middle names are Bah Humbug all that happens after the election is more of the same with a chance someone may make it far worse after a while.

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By *irldnCouple
25 weeks ago

Brighton


"The PoInT is My PoSt AboVe.

I get the post but not your use if capitalisation. Are you, subtly, trying to indicate that these are actual things rather than sentiments.

Using capitals in the way you have in the post I am quoting is an online way of indicating bizarre or silly thinking. But capitalising the first letter of a word mid-sentence implies a proper noun. So are you trying to indicate these are actual things rather than simply ideas and concepts?

Not quick this morning huh?

As 'News Titles' That's most likely how they would look when it's reported in the Media that Labour has solved them all and they are 'Good News' Stories. And we can all soak it up as being something wonderful!!

Gotcha

News Headlines To Convince People

Was too subtle for me

Yup."

Clearly your superior intellect is something wonderful to behold. And your graciousness. Truly

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
25 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"The PoInT is My PoSt AboVe.

I get the post but not your use if capitalisation. Are you, subtly, trying to indicate that these are actual things rather than sentiments.

Using capitals in the way you have in the post I am quoting is an online way of indicating bizarre or silly thinking. But capitalising the first letter of a word mid-sentence implies a proper noun. So are you trying to indicate these are actual things rather than simply ideas and concepts?

Not quick this morning huh?

As 'News Titles' That's most likely how they would look when it's reported in the Media that Labour has solved them all and they are 'Good News' Stories. And we can all soak it up as being something wonderful!!

Gotcha

News Headlines To Convince People

Was too subtle for me

Yup.

Clearly your superior intellect is something wonderful to behold. And your graciousness. Truly "

Thank you for your kind words! I'm here to help and share knowledge, so if there's anything you need assistance with, feel free to ask.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
25 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"I hope that when Labour steps into power, that this forum is FILLED with all the WONDERFUL & HAPPY THINGS that they are going to bring us.

Let's face it, we need it, don't we?

We have been through Brexit. Covid. A World Financial Crash. The Ukraine Invasion and Energy Crisis. Then the Attacks on Israel.

I hope that we are going to Turn the Page - Make a New Start - Make us Trust in MP's - Get us Healthier than we have ever been! Give the Young Doctors the 35% Pay Rise. Be able to Warm our Homes with Cheap Energy. See that Child Poverty Ended. Have a Fair and Well Managed Migration System and ALL of those Gang Masters Smashed by BFC and put in Prison.

I can't wait to read all of those Happy, Up-Lifting Stories on here Every Single Morning.

(sorry - I'm filling up a bit now Going for a coffee)"

And back to the OP . . .

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By *irldnCouple
25 weeks ago

Brighton


"The PoInT is My PoSt AboVe.

I get the post but not your use if capitalisation. Are you, subtly, trying to indicate that these are actual things rather than sentiments.

Using capitals in the way you have in the post I am quoting is an online way of indicating bizarre or silly thinking. But capitalising the first letter of a word mid-sentence implies a proper noun. So are you trying to indicate these are actual things rather than simply ideas and concepts?

Not quick this morning huh?

As 'News Titles' That's most likely how they would look when it's reported in the Media that Labour has solved them all and they are 'Good News' Stories. And we can all soak it up as being something wonderful!!

Gotcha

News Headlines To Convince People

Was too subtle for me

Yup.

Clearly your superior intellect is something wonderful to behold. And your graciousness. Truly

Thank you for your kind words! I'm here to help and share knowledge, so if there's anything you need assistance with, feel free to ask.

"

I will and thank YOU for such a kind and generous offer

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By *irkby coupleCouple
25 weeks ago

Kirkby

If we had a Labour government would all the things you mentioned not of happened? Brexit, financial crash, war in Ukraine and so on?

Why do you see or anyone else see Labour as a saviour?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
25 weeks ago

golden fields


"If we had a Labour government would all the things you mentioned not of happened? Brexit, financial crash, war in Ukraine and so on?

Why do you see or anyone else see Labour as a saviour?"

Brexit definitely wouldn't have happened.

The financial crash would have therefore been lessened. And it would have been less likely that the government would have used it as an opportunity for personal enrichment through some classic disaster capitalism.

Can't see the war in the Ukraine being treated much differently if Labour had been in power.

None of the above is because Labour are in any way a good political party in my opinion. Just less narcissistic and self-serving.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
25 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Yes. But surely the point is now that they have happened are Labour going to bring a fix to them all and there be wonderful news stories each morning about how they have?

(Which is what I actually did write in the original OP)

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By *irkby coupleCouple
25 weeks ago

Kirkby


"If we had a Labour government would all the things you mentioned not of happened? Brexit, financial crash, war in Ukraine and so on?

Why do you see or anyone else see Labour as a saviour?

Brexit definitely wouldn't have happened.

The financial crash would have therefore been lessened. And it would have been less likely that the government would have used it as an opportunity for personal enrichment through some classic disaster capitalism.

Can't see the war in the Ukraine being treated much differently if Labour had been in power.

None of the above is because Labour are in any way a good political party in my opinion. Just less narcissistic and self-serving. "

The current financial crash isn’t really as big a deal as the media are making out. Did people really expect interest rates to stay so low for ever?

Everyone demanding higher wages has a knock on effect and forces prices up even more.

Realistically, your opinion of how things would be different is no more accurate than my opinion of how things would be now.

I think these things happen and we just have to make adjustments and get on with life, rather than constantly looking to blame the government.

(I want to see the interest rate sky rocket, 10%+. I’m fed up seeing headlines about people whining because their mortgage has gone up and they was to stupid to realise that mortgage rates fluctuate when they took out a massive mortgage).

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
25 weeks ago

golden fields


"Yes. But surely the point is now that they have happened are Labour going to bring a fix to them all and there be wonderful news stories each morning about how they have?

(Which is what I actually did write in the original OP)"

Personally, I don't think there is any easy fix to the state of the country after 14 years of Tory rule.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
25 weeks ago

golden fields


"If we had a Labour government would all the things you mentioned not of happened? Brexit, financial crash, war in Ukraine and so on?

Why do you see or anyone else see Labour as a saviour?

Brexit definitely wouldn't have happened.

The financial crash would have therefore been lessened. And it would have been less likely that the government would have used it as an opportunity for personal enrichment through some classic disaster capitalism.

Can't see the war in the Ukraine being treated much differently if Labour had been in power.

None of the above is because Labour are in any way a good political party in my opinion. Just less narcissistic and self-serving.

The current financial crash isn’t really as big a deal as the media are making out. Did people really expect interest rates to stay so low for ever?

Everyone demanding higher wages has a knock on effect and forces prices up even more.

Realistically, your opinion of how things would be different is no more accurate than my opinion of how things would be now.

I think these things happen and we just have to make adjustments and get on with life, rather than constantly looking to blame the government.

(I want to see the interest rate sky rocket, 10%+. I’m fed up seeing headlines about people whining because their mortgage has gone up and they was to stupid to realise that mortgage rates fluctuate when they took out a massive mortgage)."

Fair enough.

Brexit wouldn't have happened though, we do know that.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
25 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"Yes. But surely the point is now that they have happened are Labour going to bring a fix to them all and there be wonderful news stories each morning about how they have?

(Which is what I actually did write in the original OP)

Personally, I don't think there is any easy fix to the state of the country after 14 years of Tory rule."

And that will be Labour's Mantra for the first 5 years and one week.

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By *irldnCouple
25 weeks ago

Brighton


"Yes. But surely the point is now that they have happened are Labour going to bring a fix to them all and there be wonderful news stories each morning about how they have?

(Which is what I actually did write in the original OP)

Personally, I don't think there is any easy fix to the state of the country after 14 years of Tory rule.

And that will be Labour's Mantra for the first 5 years and one week."

I am going to do some whataboutism (every other fucker does) and say that the Tories have been blaming Labour for 14 years! The precedent is well and truly set!

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By *irldnCouple
25 weeks ago

Brighton


"If we had a Labour government would all the things you mentioned not of happened? Brexit, financial crash, war in Ukraine and so on?

Why do you see or anyone else see Labour as a saviour?

Brexit definitely wouldn't have happened.

The financial crash would have therefore been lessened. And it would have been less likely that the government would have used it as an opportunity for personal enrichment through some classic disaster capitalism.

Can't see the war in the Ukraine being treated much differently if Labour had been in power.

None of the above is because Labour are in any way a good political party in my opinion. Just less narcissistic and self-serving.

The current financial crash isn’t really as big a deal as the media are making out. Did people really expect interest rates to stay so low for ever?

Everyone demanding higher wages has a knock on effect and forces prices up even more.

Realistically, your opinion of how things would be different is no more accurate than my opinion of how things would be now.

I think these things happen and we just have to make adjustments and get on with life, rather than constantly looking to blame the government.

(I want to see the interest rate sky rocket, 10%+. I’m fed up seeing headlines about people whining because their mortgage has gone up and they was to stupid to realise that mortgage rates fluctuate when they took out a massive mortgage)."

Yep but the rise in base rate was made much worse by Truss/Kwartang.

As for you WANTING 10%+ why? That just sounds bitter and spiteful to me. Do you have a mortgage or is it paid off? Do you have savings and looking for a better return?

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By *anifestoMan
25 weeks ago

Ferns

And a trump defeat please

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
25 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"Yes. But surely the point is now that they have happened are Labour going to bring a fix to them all and there be wonderful news stories each morning about how they have?

(Which is what I actually did write in the original OP)

Personally, I don't think there is any easy fix to the state of the country after 14 years of Tory rule.

And that will be Labour's Mantra for the first 5 years and one week.

I am going to do some whataboutism (every other fucker does) and say that the Tories have been blaming Labour for 14 years! The precedent is well and truly set!"

Hang on. Labour said Stop The Chaos. (media capitalisation intended) So surely they will stop that.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
25 weeks ago

golden fields


"Yes. But surely the point is now that they have happened are Labour going to bring a fix to them all and there be wonderful news stories each morning about how they have?

(Which is what I actually did write in the original OP)

Personally, I don't think there is any easy fix to the state of the country after 14 years of Tory rule.

And that will be Labour's Mantra for the first 5 years and one week.

I am going to do some whataboutism (every other fucker does) and say that the Tories have been blaming Labour for 14 years! The precedent is well and truly set!

Hang on. Labour said Stop The Chaos. (media capitalisation intended) So surely they will stop that.

"

I have very little faith that they can or will.

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By *ostindreamsMan
25 weeks ago

London

I am yet to see a single politician talk honestly about the root cause of the problems in the country. So I guess no party would solve the problems

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By *irkby coupleCouple
25 weeks ago

Kirkby


"If we had a Labour government would all the things you mentioned not of happened? Brexit, financial crash, war in Ukraine and so on?

Why do you see or anyone else see Labour as a saviour?

Brexit definitely wouldn't have happened.

The financial crash would have therefore been lessened. And it would have been less likely that the government would have used it as an opportunity for personal enrichment through some classic disaster capitalism.

Can't see the war in the Ukraine being treated much differently if Labour had been in power.

None of the above is because Labour are in any way a good political party in my opinion. Just less narcissistic and self-serving.

The current financial crash isn’t really as big a deal as the media are making out. Did people really expect interest rates to stay so low for ever?

Everyone demanding higher wages has a knock on effect and forces prices up even more.

Realistically, your opinion of how things would be different is no more accurate than my opinion of how things would be now.

I think these things happen and we just have to make adjustments and get on with life, rather than constantly looking to blame the government.

(I want to see the interest rate sky rocket, 10%+. I’m fed up seeing headlines about people whining because their mortgage has gone up and they was to stupid to realise that mortgage rates fluctuate when they took out a massive mortgage).

Yep but the rise in base rate was made much worse by Truss/Kwartang.

As for you WANTING 10%+ why? That just sounds bitter and spiteful to me. Do you have a mortgage or is it paid off? Do you have savings and looking for a better return?"

We have a small mortgage and saving. Currently getting a higher interest rate on my savings then we are paying on our mortgage.

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By *otMe66Man
25 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Yes. But surely the point is now that they have happened are Labour going to bring a fix to them all and there be wonderful news stories each morning about how they have?

(Which is what I actually did write in the original OP)

Personally, I don't think there is any easy fix to the state of the country after 14 years of Tory rule.

And that will be Labour's Mantra for the first 5 years and one week.

I am going to do some whataboutism (every other fucker does) and say that the Tories have been blaming Labour for 14 years! The precedent is well and truly set!

Hang on. Labour said Stop The Chaos. (media capitalisation intended) So surely they will stop that.

I have very little faith that they can or will."

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By *eroy1000Man
25 weeks ago

milton keynes


"I hope that when Labour steps into power, that this forum is FILLED with all the WONDERFUL & HAPPY THINGS that they are going to bring us.

Let's face it, we need it, don't we?

We have been through Brexit. Covid. A World Financial Crash. The Ukraine Invasion and Energy Crisis. Then the Attacks on Israel.

I hope that we are going to Turn the Page - Make a New Start - Make us Trust in MP's - Get us Healthier than we have ever been! Give the Young Doctors the 35% Pay Rise. Be able to Warm our Homes with Cheap Energy. See that Child Poverty Ended. Have a Fair and Well Managed Migration System and ALL of those Gang Masters Smashed by BFC and put in Prison.

I can't wait to read all of those Happy, Up-Lifting Stories on here Every Single Morning.

(sorry - I'm filling up a bit now Going for a coffee)"

They have been saying for years how much better they are and how everything would have been better under them. In a few weeks it will be the time to stop the claims and start delivering the promises

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By *mateur100Man
25 weeks ago

nr faversham

My cock is coming, and it's wonderful

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By *igNick1381Man
25 weeks ago

BRIDGEND

As the old saying goes

Same shit, different day

Or

Here's comes the new boss, same as the old boss

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
25 weeks ago

golden fields


"As the old saying goes

Same shit, different day

Or

Here's comes the new boss, same as the old boss "

This is our political system working as designed.

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By *irldnCouple
25 weeks ago

Brighton


"If we had a Labour government would all the things you mentioned not of happened? Brexit, financial crash, war in Ukraine and so on?

Why do you see or anyone else see Labour as a saviour?

Brexit definitely wouldn't have happened.

The financial crash would have therefore been lessened. And it would have been less likely that the government would have used it as an opportunity for personal enrichment through some classic disaster capitalism.

Can't see the war in the Ukraine being treated much differently if Labour had been in power.

None of the above is because Labour are in any way a good political party in my opinion. Just less narcissistic and self-serving.

The current financial crash isn’t really as big a deal as the media are making out. Did people really expect interest rates to stay so low for ever?

Everyone demanding higher wages has a knock on effect and forces prices up even more.

Realistically, your opinion of how things would be different is no more accurate than my opinion of how things would be now.

I think these things happen and we just have to make adjustments and get on with life, rather than constantly looking to blame the government.

(I want to see the interest rate sky rocket, 10%+. I’m fed up seeing headlines about people whining because their mortgage has gone up and they was to stupid to realise that mortgage rates fluctuate when they took out a massive mortgage).

Yep but the rise in base rate was made much worse by Truss/Kwartang.

As for you WANTING 10%+ why? That just sounds bitter and spiteful to me. Do you have a mortgage or is it paid off? Do you have savings and looking for a better return?

We have a small mortgage and saving. Currently getting a higher interest rate on my savings then we are paying on our mortgage."

As I thought. Well you probably know that a high base rate not only impacts on personal finance interest rates such as mortgages but also impacts business finance/loans meaning less investment meaning less jobs meaning less pre-tax profits meaning less corporation tax? And it also means government borrowing is more expensive meaning debt interest is higher meaning more of our taxes are used to service the debt making less available for government provided services! But hey, as long as you are getting a bit more interest on your savings that’s cool

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By *melie LALWoman
24 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Yes. But surely the point is now that they have happened are Labour going to bring a fix to them all and there be wonderful news stories each morning about how they have?

(Which is what I actually did write in the original OP)

Personally, I don't think there is any easy fix to the state of the country after 14 years of Tory rule."

And there lies the crux of the matter.

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By *melie LALWoman
24 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Yes. But surely the point is now that they have happened are Labour going to bring a fix to them all and there be wonderful news stories each morning about how they have?

(Which is what I actually did write in the original OP)

Personally, I don't think there is any easy fix to the state of the country after 14 years of Tory rule.

And that will be Labour's Mantra for the first 5 years and one week."

We've had 14 years of Tory ministers blaming Labour. This lessened as they had Covid and Ukraine to blame.

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By *oo hotCouple
24 weeks ago

North West


"If we had a Labour government would all the things you mentioned not of happened? Brexit, financial crash, war in Ukraine and so on?

Why do you see or anyone else see Labour as a saviour?"

Under Corbyn, Brexit would probably not have happened and if it did it would have been a more pragmatic and less ideologically purposed Brexit. With Covid, I doubt that £billions would have been doled out to private entities and instead the cash would have been funnelled through the NHS putting it in a much better place financially and structurally post-pandemic than it is now.

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By *ob ThomasCouple
24 weeks ago

Bridgend

Labour has always had a majority in the Welsh Senedd and is in charge of education, NHS, attracting business to Wales and making us drive like my grandmother. Wales is a failure, thanks to Labour, we are bottom of everything.

If you want a blueprint for the next few years just take a look at us, bearing in mind you’ll have to do so at 20mph

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By *melie LALWoman
24 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Labour has always had a majority in the Welsh Senedd and is in charge of education, NHS, attracting business to Wales and making us drive like my grandmother. Wales is a failure, thanks to Labour, we are bottom of everything.

If you want a blueprint for the next few years just take a look at us, bearing in mind you’ll have to do so at 20mph"

All roads lead to Westminister.

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By *ob ThomasCouple
24 weeks ago

Bridgend

Devolution would suggest otherwise

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By *eroy1000Man
24 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Labour has always had a majority in the Welsh Senedd and is in charge of education, NHS, attracting business to Wales and making us drive like my grandmother. Wales is a failure, thanks to Labour, we are bottom of everything.

If you want a blueprint for the next few years just take a look at us, bearing in mind you’ll have to do so at 20mph"

We can only hope that SKS and co learn from what's gone wrong in Wales and not go down the 'its our party running it so it must be right, despite the evidence' route.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
24 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"Labour has always had a majority in the Welsh Senedd and is in charge of education, NHS, attracting business to Wales and making us drive like my grandmother. Wales is a failure, thanks to Labour, we are bottom of everything.

If you want a blueprint for the next few years just take a look at us, bearing in mind you’ll have to do so at 20mph"

I'm actually looking forward to Labour being in Westminster so we can stop hearing this fucking 'all roads lead to the Tories' nonsense.

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By *melie LALWoman
24 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Devolution would suggest otherwise "

That's where their funds come from.

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By *melie LALWoman
24 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Labour has always had a majority in the Welsh Senedd and is in charge of education, NHS, attracting business to Wales and making us drive like my grandmother. Wales is a failure, thanks to Labour, we are bottom of everything.

If you want a blueprint for the next few years just take a look at us, bearing in mind you’ll have to do so at 20mph

I'm actually looking forward to Labour being in Westminster so we can stop hearing this fucking 'all roads lead to the Tories' nonsense."

That's a new line

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By *astandFeistyCouple
24 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"Labour has always had a majority in the Welsh Senedd and is in charge of education, NHS, attracting business to Wales and making us drive like my grandmother. Wales is a failure, thanks to Labour, we are bottom of everything.

If you want a blueprint for the next few years just take a look at us, bearing in mind you’ll have to do so at 20mph

I'm actually looking forward to Labour being in Westminster so we can stop hearing this fucking 'all roads lead to the Tories' nonsense.

That's a new line "

Care to clarify?

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By *ob ThomasCouple
24 weeks ago

Bridgend


"Devolution would suggest otherwise

That's where their funds come from."

That’s where the funds have always come but the decision for how and where to spend in the most crucial areas lies with the Senedd which has always been run by Labour. We have the worst NHS results in the UK and a new Welsh national curriculum not fit for purpose and the Senedd has pulled in less business investment than its predecessor the WDA.

Be very careful what you vote for, Wales is a mess. The Tories haven’t done a good job and they wouldn’t get my vote but if you use Wales as a template for a Labour run government then you’d have to be particularly stupid to vote for the toolmaker’s son who doesn’t know what a woman is.

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By *melie LALWoman
24 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Labour has always had a majority in the Welsh Senedd and is in charge of education, NHS, attracting business to Wales and making us drive like my grandmother. Wales is a failure, thanks to Labour, we are bottom of everything.

If you want a blueprint for the next few years just take a look at us, bearing in mind you’ll have to do so at 20mph

I'm actually looking forward to Labour being in Westminster so we can stop hearing this fucking 'all roads lead to the Tories' nonsense.

That's a new line

Care to clarify?"

The only line I've heard is the one I've already posted.

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By *melie LALWoman
24 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Devolution would suggest otherwise

That's where their funds come from.

That’s where the funds have always come but the decision for how and where to spend in the most crucial areas lies with the Senedd which has always been run by Labour. We have the worst NHS results in the UK and a new Welsh national curriculum not fit for purpose and the Senedd has pulled in less business investment than its predecessor the WDA.

Be very careful what you vote for, Wales is a mess. The Tories haven’t done a good job and they wouldn’t get my vote but if you use Wales as a template for a Labour run government then you’d have to be particularly stupid to vote for the toolmaker’s son who doesn’t know what a woman is. "

A new broom and all that...

Vote Labour in at govt level and alternative at devolved level.

For govt it's a two horse race and we need the current twats out.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
24 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"Labour has always had a majority in the Welsh Senedd and is in charge of education, NHS, attracting business to Wales and making us drive like my grandmother. Wales is a failure, thanks to Labour, we are bottom of everything.

If you want a blueprint for the next few years just take a look at us, bearing in mind you’ll have to do so at 20mph

I'm actually looking forward to Labour being in Westminster so we can stop hearing this fucking 'all roads lead to the Tories' nonsense.

That's a new line

Care to clarify?

The only line I've heard is the one I've already posted."

Which one did you post?

'All roads lead to Westminster'?

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By *melie LALWoman
24 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Labour has always had a majority in the Welsh Senedd and is in charge of education, NHS, attracting business to Wales and making us drive like my grandmother. Wales is a failure, thanks to Labour, we are bottom of everything.

If you want a blueprint for the next few years just take a look at us, bearing in mind you’ll have to do so at 20mph

I'm actually looking forward to Labour being in Westminster so we can stop hearing this fucking 'all roads lead to the Tories' nonsense.

That's a new line

Care to clarify?

The only line I've heard is the one I've already posted.

Which one did you post?

'All roads lead to Westminster'?"

Yep

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By *astandFeistyCouple
24 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"Labour has always had a majority in the Welsh Senedd and is in charge of education, NHS, attracting business to Wales and making us drive like my grandmother. Wales is a failure, thanks to Labour, we are bottom of everything.

If you want a blueprint for the next few years just take a look at us, bearing in mind you’ll have to do so at 20mph

I'm actually looking forward to Labour being in Westminster so we can stop hearing this fucking 'all roads lead to the Tories' nonsense.

That's a new line

Care to clarify?

The only line I've heard is the one I've already posted.

Which one did you post?

'All roads lead to Westminster'?

Yep"

Which translates to 'all roads lead to the Tories' seeing as they've been in power for, how long is it again, no one has told me today

As I said, there won't be the same sentiment next year.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
24 weeks ago

Cumbria

I’m enjoying the subtle switch away from saying how great the Tories are and how Labour are awful to ‘all the Labour supporters are saying it will be wonderful when they are elected’

Nothing like building that strawman early.

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By *melie LALWoman
24 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Labour has always had a majority in the Welsh Senedd and is in charge of education, NHS, attracting business to Wales and making us drive like my grandmother. Wales is a failure, thanks to Labour, we are bottom of everything.

If you want a blueprint for the next few years just take a look at us, bearing in mind you’ll have to do so at 20mph

I'm actually looking forward to Labour being in Westminster so we can stop hearing this fucking 'all roads lead to the Tories' nonsense.

That's a new line

Care to clarify?

The only line I've heard is the one I've already posted.

Which one did you post?

'All roads lead to Westminster'?

Yep

Which translates to 'all roads lead to the Tories' seeing as they've been in power for, how long is it again, no one has told me today

As I said, there won't be the same sentiment next year. "

Yes there will re Westminster! Tbh the saying should be from not to.

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By *melie LALWoman
24 weeks ago

Peterborough


"I’m enjoying the subtle switch away from saying how great the Tories are and how Labour are awful to ‘all the Labour supporters are saying it will be wonderful when they are elected’

Nothing like building that strawman early."

Sarcasm can be a funny so n so. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows it'll take quite some time before we see a benefit of new govt.

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By *wosmilersCouple
24 weeks ago

Heathrowish


"I’m enjoying the subtle switch away from saying how great the Tories are and how Labour are awful to ‘all the Labour supporters are saying it will be wonderful when they are elected’

Nothing like building that strawman early.

Sarcasm can be a funny so n so. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows it'll take quite some time before we see a benefit of new govt."

Exactly....it's the same with all major changes. We won't see the true beneficial or detrimental effects of Brexit for quite some time either.

(I couldn't resist stoking another fire here pmsl)

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
24 weeks ago

Cumbria

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
24 weeks ago

Cumbria


"I’m enjoying the subtle switch away from saying how great the Tories are and how Labour are awful to ‘all the Labour supporters are saying it will be wonderful when they are elected’

Nothing like building that strawman early.

Sarcasm can be a funny so n so. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows it'll take quite some time before we see a benefit of new govt.

Exactly....it's the same with all major changes. We won't see the true beneficial or detrimental effects of Brexit for quite some time either.

(I couldn't resist stoking another fire here pmsl)"

Only another 42 years until we start to see the benefits of Brexit, according to Jacob Rees-Mogg.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
24 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"Labour has always had a majority in the Welsh Senedd and is in charge of education, NHS, attracting business to Wales and making us drive like my grandmother. Wales is a failure, thanks to Labour, we are bottom of everything.

If you want a blueprint for the next few years just take a look at us, bearing in mind you’ll have to do so at 20mph

I'm actually looking forward to Labour being in Westminster so we can stop hearing this fucking 'all roads lead to the Tories' nonsense.

That's a new line

Care to clarify?

The only line I've heard is the one I've already posted.

Which one did you post?

'All roads lead to Westminster'?

Yep

Which translates to 'all roads lead to the Tories' seeing as they've been in power for, how long is it again, no one has told me today

As I said, there won't be the same sentiment next year.

Yes there will re Westminster! Tbh the saying should be from not to."

Guarantee there won't be. Labour Wales will not blame Labour. We can come back to this in a year and find out

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By *ostindreamsMan
24 weeks ago

London


"I’m enjoying the subtle switch away from saying how great the Tories are and how Labour are awful to ‘all the Labour supporters are saying it will be wonderful when they are elected’

Nothing like building that strawman early.

Sarcasm can be a funny so n so. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows it'll take quite some time before we see a benefit of new govt."

Depends on the type of policies they are implementing. There are some policies which look great in the short term but fuck the country in the long term, like borrowing beyond means and spending to keep the populace happy in the short term.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
24 weeks ago

Cumbria


"I’m enjoying the subtle switch away from saying how great the Tories are and how Labour are awful to ‘all the Labour supporters are saying it will be wonderful when they are elected’

Nothing like building that strawman early.

Sarcasm can be a funny so n so. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows it'll take quite some time before we see a benefit of new govt.

Depends on the type of policies they are implementing. There are some policies which look great in the short term but fuck the country in the long term, like borrowing beyond means and spending to keep the populace happy in the short term."

Or austerity, and refusing to borrow to invest in public services while loans are dirt cheap, leaving massive holes in capital budgets meaning schools, hospitals etc. fall apart and roads are covered in potholes.

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By *melie LALWoman
24 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Labour has always had a majority in the Welsh Senedd and is in charge of education, NHS, attracting business to Wales and making us drive like my grandmother. Wales is a failure, thanks to Labour, we are bottom of everything.

If you want a blueprint for the next few years just take a look at us, bearing in mind you’ll have to do so at 20mph

I'm actually looking forward to Labour being in Westminster so we can stop hearing this fucking 'all roads lead to the Tories' nonsense.

That's a new line

Care to clarify?

The only line I've heard is the one I've already posted.

Which one did you post?

'All roads lead to Westminster'?

Yep

Which translates to 'all roads lead to the Tories' seeing as they've been in power for, how long is it again, no one has told me today

As I said, there won't be the same sentiment next year.

Yes there will re Westminster! Tbh the saying should be from not to.

Guarantee there won't be. Labour Wales will not blame Labour. We can come back to this in a year and find out "

Too soon

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By *ostindreamsMan
24 weeks ago

London


"I’m enjoying the subtle switch away from saying how great the Tories are and how Labour are awful to ‘all the Labour supporters are saying it will be wonderful when they are elected’

Nothing like building that strawman early.

Sarcasm can be a funny so n so. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows it'll take quite some time before we see a benefit of new govt.

Depends on the type of policies they are implementing. There are some policies which look great in the short term but fuck the country in the long term, like borrowing beyond means and spending to keep the populace happy in the short term.

Or austerity, and refusing to borrow to invest in public services while loans are dirt cheap, leaving massive holes in capital budgets meaning schools, hospitals etc. fall apart and roads are covered in potholes."

You mean after the previous government has already taken too much loan and just after an economic meltdown?

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
24 weeks ago

Cumbria


"I’m enjoying the subtle switch away from saying how great the Tories are and how Labour are awful to ‘all the Labour supporters are saying it will be wonderful when they are elected’

Nothing like building that strawman early.

Sarcasm can be a funny so n so. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows it'll take quite some time before we see a benefit of new govt.

Depends on the type of policies they are implementing. There are some policies which look great in the short term but fuck the country in the long term, like borrowing beyond means and spending to keep the populace happy in the short term.

Or austerity, and refusing to borrow to invest in public services while loans are dirt cheap, leaving massive holes in capital budgets meaning schools, hospitals etc. fall apart and roads are covered in potholes.

You mean after the previous government has already taken too much loan and just after an economic meltdown?"

Austerity was a political choice, not an economic necessity, and it harmed the economy massively. Then to compound that they refused to take out dirt cheap loans to invest in the country made, again a political choice that harmed the economy.

The government keeps trotting out the tired old trope of needing a strong economy to have strong public services, then fails to create conditions for economic growth.

One day people may realise that productivity is tied to investment, and that you cannot improve productivity by doing the same things but harder, in a crumbling infrastructure.

Instead we’ve got the economically illiterate comparison of government spending being like a household budget, and the dominance of short term thinking and vulture capitalism destroying what little innovation and manufacturing we have left.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
24 weeks ago

Central

Nothing much is obviously going to be different afterwards, as it would take months and years to achieve changes.

But the _anifesto, that I've not seen, is largely not going to deliver much other than a foundation, unless they get re-elected, with an ability to invest more heavily.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Starmer says that he will change the country and do it with a spring in his step. Sounding for all the world like Tigger chasing butterflies on the common and the voice of Boris the Animal from MIB.

I can't wait. Can you?

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By *irldnCouple
21 weeks ago

Brighton


"Starmer says that he will change the country and do it with a spring in his step. Sounding for all the world like Tigger chasing butterflies on the common and the voice of Boris the Animal from MIB.

I can't wait. Can you? "

I think Starmer is mistaken

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"Starmer says that he will change the country and do it with a spring in his step. Sounding for all the world like Tigger chasing butterflies on the common and the voice of Boris the Animal from MIB.

I can't wait. Can you? "

I can’t think of any politician in any party less likely to deliver change than Starmer.

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By *oxychick35Couple
21 weeks ago

thornaby


"I hope that when Labour steps into power, that this forum is FILLED with all the WONDERFUL & HAPPY THINGS that they are going to bring us.

Let's face it, we need it, don't we?

We have been through Brexit. Covid. A World Financial Crash. The Ukraine Invasion and Energy Crisis. Then the Attacks on Israel.

I hope that we are going to Turn the Page - Make a New Start - Make us Trust in MP's - Get us Healthier than we have ever been! Give the Young Doctors the 35% Pay Rise. Be able to Warm our Homes with Cheap Energy. See that Child Poverty Ended. Have a Fair and Well Managed Migration System and ALL of those Gang Masters Smashed by BFC and put in Prison.

I can't wait to read all of those Happy, Up-Lifting Stories on here Every Single Morning.

(sorry - I'm filling up a bit now Going for a coffee)"

young doctors 35% rise can foook right of cheeky twats

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
21 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"Starmer says that he will change the country and do it with a spring in his step. Sounding for all the world like Tigger chasing butterflies on the common and the voice of Boris the Animal from MIB.

I can't wait. Can you? "

Once the reality of the job ahead hits he'll tone such exuberance down no doubt..

Just the start of another cycle where one lot gets kicked out and the next lot come in..

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Something Wonderful is coming, but NOT after 6pm on Friday's . . .

***Sir Keir Starmer has said he "can hardly believe" how the Conservative election campaign has pivoted towards attacking him for spending time with his family, having revealed he doesn't work after 6pm on Fridays and hopes to keep it up if he becomes prime minister.***

He has penned a note to the World NOT to have any world events, climate catastrophe, NHS emergencies, scandals, waiting list calamities and such like during his 'Family Time'.

Isn't that wonderful?

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By *irldnCouple
21 weeks ago

Brighton


"Something Wonderful is coming, but NOT after 6pm on Friday's . . .

***Sir Keir Starmer has said he "can hardly believe" how the Conservative election campaign has pivoted towards attacking him for spending time with his family, having revealed he doesn't work after 6pm on Fridays and hopes to keep it up if he becomes prime minister.***

He has penned a note to the World NOT to have any world events, climate catastrophe, NHS emergencies, scandals, waiting list calamities and such like during his 'Family Time'.

Isn't that wonderful? "

To be fair as PM he will probably be working huge hours seven days a week so trying to carve out a bit of family time is a good aspiration, especially as he will probably be “logged on” early in morning on a Friday. I doubt very much be wouldn’t take the call after 6 on Fridays if shit hit the fan

Saying all that, he is so dull his kids probably don’t want family time

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By *ggdrasil66Man
21 weeks ago

Saltdean


"I hope that when Labour steps into power, that this forum is FILLED with all the WONDERFUL & HAPPY THINGS that they are going to bring us.

Let's face it, we need it, don't we?

We have been through Brexit. Covid. A World Financial Crash. The Ukraine Invasion and Energy Crisis. Then the Attacks on Israel.

I hope that we are going to Turn the Page - Make a New Start - Make us Trust in MP's - Get us Healthier than we have ever been! Give the Young Doctors the 35% Pay Rise. Be able to Warm our Homes with Cheap Energy. See that Child Poverty Ended. Have a Fair and Well Managed Migration System and ALL of those Gang Masters Smashed by BFC and put in Prison.

I can't wait to read all of those Happy, Up-Lifting Stories on here Every Single Morning.

(sorry - I'm filling up a bit now Going for a coffee)"

My apologies if I’ve got this all wrong, but the way you are glorifying what Labour might accomplish in government, makes me wonder if that post has a slight smudging of irony. I hope so, because if you really believe that they will do all those things, you are going to be disappointed.

I am aware that they are going to win, but don’t see any great differences between Lab and Con these days.

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By *mateur100Man
21 weeks ago

nr faversham

Disappointed...I assumed someone was about to have a massive orgasm

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"I hope that when Labour steps into power, that this forum is FILLED with all the WONDERFUL & HAPPY THINGS that they are going to bring us.

Let's face it, we need it, don't we?

We have been through Brexit. Covid. A World Financial Crash. The Ukraine Invasion and Energy Crisis. Then the Attacks on Israel.

I hope that we are going to Turn the Page - Make a New Start - Make us Trust in MP's - Get us Healthier than we have ever been! Give the Young Doctors the 35% Pay Rise. Be able to Warm our Homes with Cheap Energy. See that Child Poverty Ended. Have a Fair and Well Managed Migration System and ALL of those Gang Masters Smashed by BFC and put in Prison.

I can't wait to read all of those Happy, Up-Lifting Stories on here Every Single Morning.

(sorry - I'm filling up a bit now Going for a coffee)

My apologies if I’ve got this all wrong, but the way you are glorifying what Labour might accomplish in government, makes me wonder if that post has a slight smudging of irony. I hope so, because if you really believe that they will do all those things, you are going to be disappointed.

I am aware that they are going to win, but don’t see any great differences between Lab and Con these days."

Oh it's scarcely hidden sarcasm through and through lol.

But tinged with hope for the glorious future that he promises. Maybe the Rebels can finally moth-ball Tatooine and return welcomed unto the Empire.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"Disappointed...I assumed someone was about to have a massive orgasm "

The batteries went flat on that one years ago, lol.

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By *ggdrasil66Man
21 weeks ago

Saltdean


"I hope that when Labour steps into power, that this forum is FILLED with all the WONDERFUL & HAPPY THINGS that they are going to bring us.

Let's face it, we need it, don't we?

We have been through Brexit. Covid. A World Financial Crash. The Ukraine Invasion and Energy Crisis. Then the Attacks on Israel.

I hope that we are going to Turn the Page - Make a New Start - Make us Trust in MP's - Get us Healthier than we have ever been! Give the Young Doctors the 35% Pay Rise. Be able to Warm our Homes with Cheap Energy. See that Child Poverty Ended. Have a Fair and Well Managed Migration System and ALL of those Gang Masters Smashed by BFC and put in Prison.

I can't wait to read all of those Happy, Up-Lifting Stories on here Every Single Morning.

(sorry - I'm filling up a bit now Going for a coffee)

My apologies if I’ve got this all wrong, but the way you are glorifying what Labour might accomplish in government, makes me wonder if that post has a slight smudging of irony. I hope so, because if you really believe that they will do all those things, you are going to be disappointed.

I am aware that they are going to win, but don’t see any great differences between Lab and Con these days.

Oh it's scarcely hidden sarcasm through and through lol.

But tinged with hope for the glorious future that he promises. Maybe the Rebels can finally moth-ball Tatooine and return welcomed unto the Empire. "

Yeah I thought so, but had to enquire because I don’t know you. I only really started posting on this ‘politics’ because of the election.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"I hope that when Labour steps into power, that this forum is FILLED with all the WONDERFUL & HAPPY THINGS that they are going to bring us.

Let's face it, we need it, don't we?

We have been through Brexit. Covid. A World Financial Crash. The Ukraine Invasion and Energy Crisis. Then the Attacks on Israel.

I hope that we are going to Turn the Page - Make a New Start - Make us Trust in MP's - Get us Healthier than we have ever been! Give the Young Doctors the 35% Pay Rise. Be able to Warm our Homes with Cheap Energy. See that Child Poverty Ended. Have a Fair and Well Managed Migration System and ALL of those Gang Masters Smashed by BFC and put in Prison.

I can't wait to read all of those Happy, Up-Lifting Stories on here Every Single Morning.

(sorry - I'm filling up a bit now Going for a coffee)

My apologies if I’ve got this all wrong, but the way you are glorifying what Labour might accomplish in government, makes me wonder if that post has a slight smudging of irony. I hope so, because if you really believe that they will do all those things, you are going to be disappointed.

I am aware that they are going to win, but don’t see any great differences between Lab and Con these days.

Oh it's scarcely hidden sarcasm through and through lol.

But tinged with hope for the glorious future that he promises. Maybe the Rebels can finally moth-ball Tatooine and return welcomed unto the Empire.

Yeah I thought so, but had to enquire because I don’t know you. I only really started posting on this ‘politics’ because of the election."

Welcome and get involved.

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By *otMe66Man
21 weeks ago

Terra Firma

GB Energy, that's coming, I'm so excited to see this dream spring into life.

I read that it is going to be funded by the government (that is longhand for "us"), and in their words "use public investment to crowd in private funding". The most exciting part is the thought of our money being used to partner with industry and trade unions, to create 650,000 new jobs by 2030.

I cannot see a single problem with this

I wonder if Starmer could finish the smaller issue of laying a train track, while he is at it?

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Here's the Imagineering . . .

The Labour Party will create Great British Energy, a new, publicly-owned clean energy company.

We will harness Britain’s sun, wind and wave energy to:

*Save £93 billion for UK households.

*Deliver one hundred percent clean power by 2030.

*Cut energy bills for good.

*Create thousands of good local jobs.

*Deliver energy security.

*Make the UK energy independent.

*Labour will build an energy system for the future, run for the British people.

It's all so Wonderful.

And he has 5years 7months 27days to do it in - so it's also a BIG FOOKING LIE !!!

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By *irldnCouple
21 weeks ago

Brighton


"I hope that when Labour steps into power, that this forum is FILLED with all the WONDERFUL & HAPPY THINGS that they are going to bring us.

Let's face it, we need it, don't we?

We have been through Brexit. Covid. A World Financial Crash. The Ukraine Invasion and Energy Crisis. Then the Attacks on Israel.

I hope that we are going to Turn the Page - Make a New Start - Make us Trust in MP's - Get us Healthier than we have ever been! Give the Young Doctors the 35% Pay Rise. Be able to Warm our Homes with Cheap Energy. See that Child Poverty Ended. Have a Fair and Well Managed Migration System and ALL of those Gang Masters Smashed by BFC and put in Prison.

I can't wait to read all of those Happy, Up-Lifting Stories on here Every Single Morning.

(sorry - I'm filling up a bit now Going for a coffee)

My apologies if I’ve got this all wrong, but the way you are glorifying what Labour might accomplish in government, makes me wonder if that post has a slight smudging of irony. I hope so, because if you really believe that they will do all those things, you are going to be disappointed.

I am aware that they are going to win, but don’t see any great differences between Lab and Con these days."

How refreshing that you asked. Most of us in here are complete asshats who jump on anyone and anything including making assumptions just so we can have a bit of a Barney. Some are also regular piss takers. Some overly earnest. My only advice is don’t take any of this too seriously, we are a bunch of people talking politics while our profiles are full of cock and pussy pictures!

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"I hope that when Labour steps into power, that this forum is FILLED with all the WONDERFUL & HAPPY THINGS that they are going to bring us.

Let's face it, we need it, don't we?

We have been through Brexit. Covid. A World Financial Crash. The Ukraine Invasion and Energy Crisis. Then the Attacks on Israel.

I hope that we are going to Turn the Page - Make a New Start - Make us Trust in MP's - Get us Healthier than we have ever been! Give the Young Doctors the 35% Pay Rise. Be able to Warm our Homes with Cheap Energy. See that Child Poverty Ended. Have a Fair and Well Managed Migration System and ALL of those Gang Masters Smashed by BFC and put in Prison.

I can't wait to read all of those Happy, Up-Lifting Stories on here Every Single Morning.

(sorry - I'm filling up a bit now Going for a coffee)young doctors 35% rise can foook right of cheeky twats "

Labour will be tough negotiators on this.

They will start at 50% and if the doctors don’t accept it they will move upwards from there.

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By *irldnCouple
21 weeks ago

Brighton


"I hope that when Labour steps into power, that this forum is FILLED with all the WONDERFUL & HAPPY THINGS that they are going to bring us.

Let's face it, we need it, don't we?

We have been through Brexit. Covid. A World Financial Crash. The Ukraine Invasion and Energy Crisis. Then the Attacks on Israel.

I hope that we are going to Turn the Page - Make a New Start - Make us Trust in MP's - Get us Healthier than we have ever been! Give the Young Doctors the 35% Pay Rise. Be able to Warm our Homes with Cheap Energy. See that Child Poverty Ended. Have a Fair and Well Managed Migration System and ALL of those Gang Masters Smashed by BFC and put in Prison.

I can't wait to read all of those Happy, Up-Lifting Stories on here Every Single Morning.

(sorry - I'm filling up a bit now Going for a coffee)young doctors 35% rise can foook right of cheeky twats

Labour will be tough negotiators on this.

They will start at 50% and if the doctors don’t accept it they will move upwards from there."

Such a kidder

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By *otMe66Man
21 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Here's the Imagineering . . .

The Labour Party will create Great British Energy, a new, publicly-owned clean energy company.

We will harness Britain’s sun, wind and wave energy to:

*Save £93 billion for UK households.

*Deliver one hundred percent clean power by 2030.

*Cut energy bills for good.

*Create thousands of good local jobs.

*Deliver energy security.

*Make the UK energy independent.

*Labour will build an energy system for the future, run for the British people.

It's all so Wonderful.

And he has 5years 7months 27days to do it in - so it's also a BIG FOOKING LIE !!!

"

I think it is the mention of harnessing our sun that they are lying about, can't see anything wrong with the rest of the plan

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"Here's the Imagineering . . .

The Labour Party will create Great British Energy, a new, publicly-owned clean energy company.

We will harness Britain’s sun, wind and wave energy to:

*Save £93 billion for UK households.

*Deliver one hundred percent clean power by 2030.

*Cut energy bills for good.

*Create thousands of good local jobs.

*Deliver energy security.

*Make the UK energy independent.

*Labour will build an energy system for the future, run for the British people.

It's all so Wonderful.

And he has 5years 7months 27days to do it in - so it's also a BIG FOOKING LIE !!!

I think it is the mention of harnessing our sun that they are lying about, can't see anything wrong with the rest of the plan "

Not even the 5years 7months 27days to do it in?

Do you think that is even remotely possible?

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By *otMe66Man
21 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Here's the Imagineering . . .

The Labour Party will create Great British Energy, a new, publicly-owned clean energy company.

We will harness Britain’s sun, wind and wave energy to:

*Save £93 billion for UK households.

*Deliver one hundred percent clean power by 2030.

*Cut energy bills for good.

*Create thousands of good local jobs.

*Deliver energy security.

*Make the UK energy independent.

*Labour will build an energy system for the future, run for the British people.

It's all so Wonderful.

And he has 5years 7months 27days to do it in - so it's also a BIG FOOKING LIE !!!

I think it is the mention of harnessing our sun that they are lying about, can't see anything wrong with the rest of the plan

Not even the 5years 7months 27days to do it in?

Do you think that is even remotely possible?"

Of course it is, I mean it is only creating an energy company, creating 650,000 jobs and working with the unions.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
21 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Something Wonderful is coming, but NOT after 6pm on Friday's . . .

***Sir Keir Starmer has said he "can hardly believe" how the Conservative election campaign has pivoted towards attacking him for spending time with his family, having revealed he doesn't work after 6pm on Fridays and hopes to keep it up if he becomes prime minister.***

He has penned a note to the World NOT to have any world events, climate catastrophe, NHS emergencies, scandals, waiting list calamities and such like during his 'Family Time'.

Isn't that wonderful? "

I think it’s fair enough that he wants to respect his family’s religious observances, some might say attacking him for it is antisemitic.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"Here's the Imagineering . . .

The Labour Party will create Great British Energy, a new, publicly-owned clean energy company.

We will harness Britain’s sun, wind and wave energy to:

*Save £93 billion for UK households.

*Deliver one hundred percent clean power by 2030.

*Cut energy bills for good.

*Create thousands of good local jobs.

*Deliver energy security.

*Make the UK energy independent.

*Labour will build an energy system for the future, run for the British people.

It's all so Wonderful.

And he has 5years 7months 27days to do it in - so it's also a BIG FOOKING LIE !!!

I think it is the mention of harnessing our sun that they are lying about, can't see anything wrong with the rest of the plan

Not even the 5years 7months 27days to do it in?

Do you think that is even remotely possible?

Of course it is, I mean it is only creating an energy company, creating 650,000 jobs and working with the unions.

"

It's a good job you added the halo lol. Co's his lies need one

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By *essiCouple
21 weeks ago

suffolk


"Here's the Imagineering . . .

The Labour Party will create Great British Energy, a new, publicly-owned clean energy company.

We will harness Britain’s sun, wind and wave energy to:

*Save £93 billion for UK households.

*Deliver one hundred percent clean power by 2030.

*Cut energy bills for good.

*Create thousands of good local jobs.

*Deliver energy security.

*Make the UK energy independent.

*Labour will build an energy system for the future, run for the British people.

It's all so Wonderful.

And he has 5years 7months 27days to do it in - so it's also a BIG FOOKING LIE !!!

"

He's on record saying it'll take 10 years...

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"Something Wonderful is coming, but NOT after 6pm on Friday's . . .

***Sir Keir Starmer has said he "can hardly believe" how the Conservative election campaign has pivoted towards attacking him for spending time with his family, having revealed he doesn't work after 6pm on Fridays and hopes to keep it up if he becomes prime minister.***

He has penned a note to the World NOT to have any world events, climate catastrophe, NHS emergencies, scandals, waiting list calamities and such like during his 'Family Time'.

Isn't that wonderful?

I think it’s fair enough that he wants to respect his family’s religious observances, some might say attacking him for it is antisemitic. "

Some might say that he will be the leader of the country and needs to be where he's needed when he's needed.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"Here's the Imagineering . . .

The Labour Party will create Great British Energy, a new, publicly-owned clean energy company.

We will harness Britain’s sun, wind and wave energy to:

*Save £93 billion for UK households.

*Deliver one hundred percent clean power by 2030.

*Cut energy bills for good.

*Create thousands of good local jobs.

*Deliver energy security.

*Make the UK energy independent.

*Labour will build an energy system for the future, run for the British people.

It's all so Wonderful.

And he has 5years 7months 27days to do it in - so it's also a BIG FOOKING LIE !!!

He's on record saying it'll take 10 years..."

The Labour Manifesto page actually says:

***********Deliver one hundred percent clean power by 2030.***********

All of the quotes above are from it.

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By *essiCouple
21 weeks ago

suffolk


"Here's the Imagineering . . .

The Labour Party will create Great British Energy, a new, publicly-owned clean energy company.

We will harness Britain’s sun, wind and wave energy to:

*Save £93 billion for UK households.

*Deliver one hundred percent clean power by 2030.

*Cut energy bills for good.

*Create thousands of good local jobs.

*Deliver energy security.

*Make the UK energy independent.

*Labour will build an energy system for the future, run for the British people.

It's all so Wonderful.

And he has 5years 7months 27days to do it in - so it's also a BIG FOOKING LIE !!!

He's on record saying it'll take 10 years...

The Labour Manifesto page actually says:

***********Deliver one hundred percent clean power by 2030.***********

All of the quotes above are from it.

"

I'm not saying it

isn't..,but he was on prime time TV saying it will take 10 years not 5..

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
21 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Something Wonderful is coming, but NOT after 6pm on Friday's . . .

***Sir Keir Starmer has said he "can hardly believe" how the Conservative election campaign has pivoted towards attacking him for spending time with his family, having revealed he doesn't work after 6pm on Fridays and hopes to keep it up if he becomes prime minister.***

He has penned a note to the World NOT to have any world events, climate catastrophe, NHS emergencies, scandals, waiting list calamities and such like during his 'Family Time'.

Isn't that wonderful?

I think it’s fair enough that he wants to respect his family’s religious observances, some might say attacking him for it is antisemitic.

Some might say that he will be the leader of the country and needs to be where he's needed when he's needed. "

I’m sure he will be, if he’s needed, but what is he going to be doing at 6pm on a Friday night that he couldn’t do on a Saturday, or even Monday?

Nothing wrong with aspiring to a reasonable work/life balance.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"Here's the Imagineering . . .

The Labour Party will create Great British Energy, a new, publicly-owned clean energy company.

We will harness Britain’s sun, wind and wave energy to:

*Save £93 billion for UK households.

*Deliver one hundred percent clean power by 2030.

*Cut energy bills for good.

*Create thousands of good local jobs.

*Deliver energy security.

*Make the UK energy independent.

*Labour will build an energy system for the future, run for the British people.

It's all so Wonderful.

And he has 5years 7months 27days to do it in - so it's also a BIG FOOKING LIE !!!

He's on record saying it'll take 10 years...

The Labour Manifesto page actually says:

***********Deliver one hundred percent clean power by 2030.***********

All of the quotes above are from it.

I'm not saying it

isn't..,but he was on prime time TV saying it will take 10 years not 5.."

See. He just can't be trusted to say anything and actually mean it.

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By *eroy1000Man
21 weeks ago

milton keynes


"GB Energy, that's coming, I'm so excited to see this dream spring into life.

I read that it is going to be funded by the government (that is longhand for "us"), and in their words "use public investment to crowd in private funding". The most exciting part is the thought of our money being used to partner with industry and trade unions, to create 650,000 new jobs by 2030.

I cannot see a single problem with this

I wonder if Starmer could finish the smaller issue of laying a train track, while he is at it? "

Apparently we only have to look at the success in Wales to see how things will be for the rest of the UK. Starmer has been saying how much better things are going to be once he is at the helm and its not like him to go back on a promise is it!!

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"GB Energy, that's coming, I'm so excited to see this dream spring into life.

I read that it is going to be funded by the government (that is longhand for "us"), and in their words "use public investment to crowd in private funding". The most exciting part is the thought of our money being used to partner with industry and trade unions, to create 650,000 new jobs by 2030.

I cannot see a single problem with this

I wonder if Starmer could finish the smaller issue of laying a train track, while he is at it?

Apparently we only have to look at the success in Wales to see how things will be for the rest of the UK. Starmer has been saying how much better things are going to be once he is at the helm and its not like him to go back on a promise is it!!"

There are fewer flip-flops on a beach in high summer, than there are Starmer flip-flops in a month of Sundays.

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By *otMe66Man
21 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"GB Energy, that's coming, I'm so excited to see this dream spring into life.

I read that it is going to be funded by the government (that is longhand for "us"), and in their words "use public investment to crowd in private funding". The most exciting part is the thought of our money being used to partner with industry and trade unions, to create 650,000 new jobs by 2030.

I cannot see a single problem with this

I wonder if Starmer could finish the smaller issue of laying a train track, while he is at it?

Apparently we only have to look at the success in Wales to see how things will be for the rest of the UK. Starmer has been saying how much better things are going to be once he is at the helm and its not like him to go back on a promise is it!!"

the Welsh posters in here never seem to be shouting from the rooftops in support of the iron fist that rules them, they probably haven't got time after the drive home at 20mph

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


" they probably haven't got time after the drive home at 20mph "

Now that made me swallow my wine faster than I intended to

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
21 weeks ago

Gilfach


"I mean it is only creating an energy company, creating 650,000 jobs and working with the unions."

To be fair to him, if he's going to create 650,000 government backed jobs, I'm sure the unions will be scrambling over each other to help him out.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"I mean it is only creating an energy company, creating 650,000 jobs and working with the unions.

To be fair to him, if he's going to create 650,000 government backed jobs, I'm sure the unions will be scrambling over each other to help him out."

Okay so let’s say that each of these jobs pay ‘just ‘ a £1 a week. So that’s £650,000 a week government backed. . . .

This is never going to happen.

And investors are being asked to invest in a company that forever has to keep its product at the lowest possible cost. Can’t you just see the scramble to say hey here’s the money!!!!!! pick me pick me !!!

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By *irldnCouple
21 weeks ago

Brighton


" And investors are being asked to invest in a company that forever has to keep its product at the lowest possible cost. Can’t you just see the scramble to say hey here’s the money!!!!!! pick me pick me !!!"

Sounds a bit like all those health insurance companies scrambling to replace the NHS in a supposed new model!

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By *otMe66Man
21 weeks ago

Terra Firma


" And investors are being asked to invest in a company that forever has to keep its product at the lowest possible cost. Can’t you just see the scramble to say hey here’s the money!!!!!! pick me pick me !!!

Sounds a bit like all those health insurance companies scrambling to replace the NHS in a supposed new model!"

Not the same..

Insurance companies underwrite they do not provide the service.

Keep up

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By *otMe66Man
21 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"I mean it is only creating an energy company, creating 650,000 jobs and working with the unions.

To be fair to him, if he's going to create 650,000 government backed jobs, I'm sure the unions will be scrambling over each other to help him out.

Okay so let’s say that each of these jobs pay ‘just ‘ a £1 a week. So that’s £650,000 a week government backed. . . .

This is never going to happen.

And investors are being asked to invest in a company that forever has to keep its product at the lowest possible cost. Can’t you just see the scramble to say hey here’s the money!!!!!! pick me pick me !!!

"

If this foolhardy adventure is green-lit, I might place a small wager on a total collapse within 8 years and 3 strikes in that period, ending the labour governments leadership.

What odds do you think I could get?

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
21 weeks ago

Gilfach


"If this foolhardy adventure is green-lit, I might place a small wager on a total collapse within 8 years and 3 strikes in that period, ending the labour governments leadership.

What odds do you think I could get?"

Really good I'd imagine, since the strikes won't happen.

Great British Energy won't be actually employing anyone at all. It exists to invest in new green technology, which means that all of those jobs will be split over hundreds of small companies. The unions won't be able to organise collectively.

On the other point, total collapse within 8 years seems quite likely, as GBE seem very keen on tidal stream generation, and they are ignoring all of the failed projects from the past.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Won't we all have to wait until Saturday to hear Starmer tell us how he will make the change, turn the page, stop the boats yaaada yaaada yaaada- After all he's off on Friday after 6pm!

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By *otMe66Man
21 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Won't we all have to wait until Saturday to hear Starmer tell us how he will make the change, turn the page, stop the boats yaaada yaaada yaaada- After all he's off on Friday after 6pm!

"

I think he will know he’s got a majority before home time Friday

Does Charles work weekends?

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By *aribbean King 1985Man
21 weeks ago

South West London

I want Tories out yes but definitely don't want Labour to win. As well as their Manifesto being garbage, Keir Starmer is a awkward dude, very dull like an untrained AI without any charm, unpolished, uninspiring and indecisive where you don't know what he actually stands for but seems to knee down for anything. Plus the Labour are too politically corrected to a point where they can't tell you what a woman is. But hey some of you have fell for his okie doke already so if you like what Starmer stands for (which is nothing) but higher taxes, higher crimes, higher immigration, more wokery awareness then go ahead, make my day, vote for Labour today

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By *otMe66Man
21 weeks ago

Terra Firma

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By *otMe66Man
21 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"I want Tories out yes but definitely don't want Labour to win. As well as their Manifesto being garbage, Keir Starmer is a awkward dude, very dull like an untrained AI without any charm, unpolished, uninspiring and indecisive where you don't know what he actually stands for but seems to knee down for anything. Plus the Labour are too politically corrected to a point where they can't tell you what a woman is. But hey some of you have fell for his okie doke already so if you like what Starmer stands for (which is nothing) but higher taxes, higher crimes, higher immigration, more wokery awareness then go ahead, make my day, vote for Labour today

"

The bookies are rarely wrong and looking at a news article that was discussing this, odds on is an understatement

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Do you think that on Saturday morning, he will tell us about the Great British Energy Con? You know, the one that gives 8 billion pounds to the private sector? The very private sector energy companies that are charging us the huge bills anyway?

Well, I suppose it's 'wonderful' in that he's saved 20 billion on his original lie about labours green climate pledges.

Such wonderfulness all wrapped up in a big red lie.

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By *aribbean King 1985Man
21 weeks ago

South West London

Hoping for a Hung Parliment and while the overwild polls have Labour as a marjority a hung parliment is still possible

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By *otMe66Man
21 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Do you think that on Saturday morning, he will tell us about the Great British Energy Con? You know, the one that gives 8 billion pounds to the private sector? The very private sector energy companies that are charging us the huge bills anyway?

Well, I suppose it's 'wonderful' in that he's saved 20 billion on his original lie about labours green climate pledges.

Such wonderfulness all wrapped up in a big red lie.

"

I think when it comes to his speech, I will dose off in the first 5 minutes after he has mentioned for the 10th time 14 years of tory mismanagement, 22nd time he mentions austerity and the 28th time he mentions how they have broken the NHS.

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By *aribbean King 1985Man
21 weeks ago

South West London

Glad that the Tories are out but a Labour Government terrifies me even more

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By *irldnCouple
21 weeks ago

Brighton


"Glad that the Tories are out but a Labour Government terrifies me even more"

Really? You kept that quiet

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21 weeks ago

Brighton

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
21 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Best news title of the day . . .

***Fickle voters hand Labour a 'loveless landslide'***

The people have spoken. The first among equals has risen to take the reins. . . .

. . . Now comes the 'wonderful'. Cool chicks cold beer, look out guys Sir Kier is ere'

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