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"Fuck me you start a lot of threads!!!! Must be all that leisure time in the hot tub " Not been in the hotub today - still time, however. The phone hasn't stopped all day. And three screens on my computers, lol | |||
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"Fuck me you start a lot of threads!!!! Must be all that leisure time in the hot tub Not been in the hotub today - still time, however. The phone hasn't stopped all day. And three screens on my computers, lol" Multi-tasking at its best | |||
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"Fuck me you start a lot of threads!!!! Must be all that leisure time in the hot tub Not been in the hotub today - still time, however. The phone hasn't stopped all day. And three screens on my computers, lol Multi-tasking at its best " No interest in Trump? | |||
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"Fuck me you start a lot of threads!!!! Must be all that leisure time in the hot tub Not been in the hotub today - still time, however. The phone hasn't stopped all day. And three screens on my computers, lol Multi-tasking at its best No interest in Trump? " Can’t stand him. Think he is an awful human being. His fortune is based on wooden dollars giving the illusion of success and wealth. He’s as mad as a box of frogs. Hope he goes to prison. Doesn’t your PA screen your calls and gate keep your diary? | |||
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"Fuck me you start a lot of threads!!!! Must be all that leisure time in the hot tub Not been in the hotub today - still time, however. The phone hasn't stopped all day. And three screens on my computers, lol Multi-tasking at its best No interest in Trump? Can’t stand him. Think he is an awful human being. His fortune is based on wooden dollars giving the illusion of success and wealth. He’s as mad as a box of frogs. Hope he goes to prison. Doesn’t your PA screen your calls and gate keep your diary?" Yes. He deserves jail and America deserves a better too. I'm totally with Mr De'Niro. It was a very long day yesterday - wish I could show you my office desk lol - in the end I showered and hit the TC Malls for late shopping! Yay. | |||
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"I might be one of the few that thinks he'll be found not guilty due to the prosecution not "making the case" successfully judged by how many questions have come out of deliberations already. Also I think it will be not a settled case, will get kicked until after the election, and if if wins will get kicked indefinitely." I'm skeptical too. I assume there will be appeals and delays and other such tactics. | |||
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"Tic toc tic toc I have the feeling that the longer it takes, the more the chance that he isn't going to be found guilty. The Jury has to be unanimous in its vote. Tic toc tic toc " Actually at this stage I feel the opposite… it means they are doing their due diligence… remember in this trial there are 34 charges If it gets to … let say… day 5 or 6… then I might worry At this point it’s only been in effect 24 hrs | |||
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"This is a criminal court with the burden of proof set at 'beyond reasonable doubt'. Given that a unanimous verdict is required of the jury, I'm doubtful of a conviction. Happy to be proved wrong." Yes and no…. In this case, for this to be a felony crime… the crime in itself would have to be linked to a different crime … but the judge said it didn’t have to be a specific crime So if for example they think the writing of the cheques was related to trying to evade federal election spending rules.. that would be enough!…. Or if some thought the cheques were to evaded business expenses and were in effect accounting fraud.. that would be enough The trump defence is that everyone was lying, he is telling the truth, this is perfectly normal… nothing to see here! People can lie… pretty hard for a paper trail to!!! | |||
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"I might be one of the few that thinks he'll be found not guilty due to the prosecution not "making the case" successfully judged by how many questions have come out of deliberations already. Also I think it will be not a settled case, will get kicked until after the election, and if if wins will get kicked indefinitely." Actually the bits they asked for were the for peckers (the national enquiry owners) call with trump… information about the deal with the 2nd woman, not stormy but Karen mcdougal, and the 3 way meeting between pecker, Cohen and trump… and peckers/cohens recollection of that meeting…. | |||
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"Fuck me you start a lot of threads!!!! Must be all that leisure time in the hot tub Not been in the hotub today - still time, however. The phone hasn't stopped all day. And three screens on my computers, lol Multi-tasking at its best No interest in Trump? Can’t stand him. Think he is an awful human being. His fortune is based on wooden dollars giving the illusion of success and wealth. He’s as mad as a box of frogs. Hope he goes to prison. Doesn’t your PA screen your calls and gate keep your diary? Yes. He deserves jail and America deserves a better too. I'm totally with Mr De'Niro. It was a very long day yesterday - wish I could show you my office desk lol - in the end I showered and hit the TC Malls for late shopping! Yay." Trafford Centre? Can't beat shopping 8pm to 10pm, relatively quiet, indoor, some big names and only just over an hour away from north Shropshire. I can't work out whether he'll be acquitted or not, but how can people be sure he won't do time if convicted? | |||
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"Guilty on all 34 charges…. Ooooh!!!" That's quite definitive.. | |||
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"It's a fine and won't have an adverse effect on his presedential hopes " Cool… can’t pardon himself though.. lol Sentencing date will be July 11th… 10am This trump presser coming out of court is going to be wild… | |||
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"Guilty on all 34 charges…. Ooooh!!!" There is common sense in the World. Wow, this really has made my week. Opening a bottle of Moët !!!!!!!! | |||
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"Guilty on all 34 charges…. Ooooh!!!" Genuinely like to see where this goes with appeals, to the constitutional crises this has. Has this just handed him the win and win big in November | |||
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"I wouldn't know who to vote for in November if I was an American .....a crook or a senile old man. So refreshing to have a solid choice here in July ??????" To be fair, the fact that Trump’s a crook doesn’t stop him from also being a senile old man. I mean look at him, he kept falling asleep in court. | |||
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"It's a fine and won't have an adverse effect on his presedential hopes " I’d no idea that the judge is on Fabswingers! Welcome aboard sir! | |||
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"I wouldn't know who to vote for in November if I was an American .....a crook or a senile old man. So refreshing to have a solid choice here in July ?????? To be fair, the fact that Trump’s a crook doesn’t stop him from also being a senile old man. I mean look at him, he kept falling asleep in court." Good point..... | |||
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"I wouldn't know who to vote for in November if I was an American .....a crook or a senile old man. So refreshing to have a solid choice here in July ??????" ------------------------- A crooked senile man, trumps (pardon the pun) a senile one! | |||
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"In a sane world, this conviction would finish him but he'll likely be POTUS in a few months time. Crazy times!" Exactly my thoughts, what is this really going to do / achieve, other than give people another labelto add to the many that are attached to Trump. | |||
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"New York Hush Money Trial - Guilty 34 counts. Next up: Capital Riot And 2020 Election Trial Georgia 2020 Election Trial The Classified Documents Trial. " What about the case where he's arguing that a serving POTUS should be immune from all prosecution? | |||
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"New York Hush Money Trial - Guilty 34 counts. Next up: Capital Riot And 2020 Election Trial Georgia 2020 Election Trial The Classified Documents Trial. What about the case where he's arguing that a serving POTUS should be immune from all prosecution? " That's the Capitol Riot and 2020 Election Trial. Legal argument is being done now so that trial is held over until the supreme court makes a ruling | |||
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"New York Hush Money Trial - Guilty 34 counts. Next up: Capital Riot And 2020 Election Trial Georgia 2020 Election Trial The Classified Documents Trial. What about the case where he's arguing that a serving POTUS should be immune from all prosecution? That's the Capitol Riot and 2020 Election Trial. Legal argument is being done now so that trial is held over until the supreme court makes a ruling" | |||
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"New York Hush Money Trial - Guilty 34 counts. Next up: Capital Riot And 2020 Election Trial Georgia 2020 Election Trial The Classified Documents Trial. What about the case where he's arguing that a serving POTUS should be immune from all prosecution? That's the Capitol Riot and 2020 Election Trial. Legal argument is being done now so that trial is held over until the supreme court makes a ruling" The witch hunt is what will give the world President Trump mk2 | |||
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"Regardless, he's still a convicted felon. And America - like anywhere - deserves what it votes for." They do and they will | |||
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"In a sane world, this conviction would finish him but he'll likely be POTUS in a few months time. Crazy times! Exactly my thoughts, what is this really going to do / achieve, other than give people another labelto add to the many that are attached to Trump. " I get this for the core support. Nothing he can do will change their minds. But for floating voters. Would they be happy with a convicted felon being in charge of the party of law and order, would they be happy with someone who cheated on his wife with a pornstar in charge of the party of family values? | |||
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"In a sane world, this conviction would finish him but he'll likely be POTUS in a few months time. Crazy times! Exactly my thoughts, what is this really going to do / achieve, other than give people another labelto add to the many that are attached to Trump. I get this for the core support. Nothing he can do will change their minds. But for floating voters. Would they be happy with a convicted felon being in charge of the party of law and order, would they be happy with someone who cheated on his wife with a pornstar in charge of the party of family values? " Americans like an anti-establishment figure. he's a kind of Billy the Kid for the 21st Century. All bets are off imo. | |||
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"In a sane world, this conviction would finish him but he'll likely be POTUS in a few months time. Crazy times! Exactly my thoughts, what is this really going to do / achieve, other than give people another labelto add to the many that are attached to Trump. I get this for the core support. Nothing he can do will change their minds. But for floating voters. Would they be happy with a convicted felon being in charge of the party of law and order, would they be happy with someone who cheated on his wife with a pornstar in charge of the party of family values? Americans like an anti-establishment figure. he's a kind of Billy the Kid for the 21st Century. All bets are off imo." Do they though? Trump is ultra establishment. If they truly were looking for someone to stand up to the establishment they would have voted for people like Nader or Sanders. | |||
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"New York Hush Money Trial - Guilty 34 counts. Next up: Capital Riot And 2020 Election Trial Georgia 2020 Election Trial The Classified Documents Trial. " Yes and no….. Capital riot and january 6th trial is currently suspended pending a decision on presidential immunity from SCOTUS The classified documents trial because of the judge (seemingly having some sort of deference to truth because he put her in that particular position) is going at the pace of a sloth and currently has no start date And the Georgia trial, because it’s RICO 17 people are going to be done together! And that one is even further behind The first 2 are federal… meaning if trump gets back in, those will likely “go away” under his DOJ….. | |||
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"If they're hoping to 'destroy Trump in the courts' I'm afraid they're sadly mistaken. " It's water off his back and brings in so much money from the base he seems to relish it.. | |||
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"In a sane world, this conviction would finish him but he'll likely be POTUS in a few months time. Crazy times! Exactly my thoughts, what is this really going to do / achieve, other than give people another labelto add to the many that are attached to Trump. I get this for the core support. Nothing he can do will change their minds. But for floating voters. Would they be happy with a convicted felon being in charge of the party of law and order, would they be happy with someone who cheated on his wife with a pornstar in charge of the party of family values? " you actually think that matters to most people? Most people are likley to vote for someone who will put more money in there pockets morals hardly come into it, i thought you would understand that after the last 15_20 years | |||
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"In a sane world, this conviction would finish him but he'll likely be POTUS in a few months time. Crazy times! Exactly my thoughts, what is this really going to do / achieve, other than give people another labelto add to the many that are attached to Trump. I get this for the core support. Nothing he can do will change their minds. But for floating voters. Would they be happy with a convicted felon being in charge of the party of law and order, would they be happy with someone who cheated on his wife with a pornstar in charge of the party of family values? you actually think that matters to most people? Most people are likley to vote for someone who will put more money in there pockets morals hardly come into it, i thought you would understand that after the last 15_20 years" Normally I would agree. But in this instance Trump wasn't even trying to do that. For example he was trying his best to remove access to healthcare for millions of the poorest Americans right in the middle of the worst pandemic in living memory. Meanwhile giving himself tax breaks. | |||
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"In a sane world, this conviction would finish him but he'll likely be POTUS in a few months time. Crazy times! Exactly my thoughts, what is this really going to do / achieve, other than give people another labelto add to the many that are attached to Trump. I get this for the core support. Nothing he can do will change their minds. But for floating voters. Would they be happy with a convicted felon being in charge of the party of law and order, would they be happy with someone who cheated on his wife with a pornstar in charge of the party of family values? you actually think that matters to most people? Most people are likley to vote for someone who will put more money in there pockets morals hardly come into it, i thought you would understand that after the last 15_20 years Normally I would agree. But in this instance Trump wasn't even trying to do that. For example he was trying his best to remove access to healthcare for millions of the poorest Americans right in the middle of the worst pandemic in living memory. Meanwhile giving himself tax breaks." In the US many believe you should stand on your own 2 feet, even when it comes to medical cover and they do not want their tax $'s going towards the support of others. We have the same views here, be it illegal immigration costs, NHS, unemployed and so on. A lot of people believe in straight talking, this is not unique to the US but Trump resonates their mistrust of the government. That sounds wildly out of balance for giving Trump support, but I read the same type of mistrust of the government in here from people, who say they would vote for anyone other than tory. Johnson was not a million miles away from Trump in both his attitude and his actions, but he had an amazing amount of support. Trump polarises opinion, there is no real middle ground for him, so it is either love or hate. | |||
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"If they're hoping to 'destroy Trump in the courts' I'm afraid they're sadly mistaken. " Exactly this. The vast majority of his supporters think this is a book-keeping misdemeanour and trying to prosecute it on 34 different instalments (charges) is a pure witch hunt, trying to make it sound worse than it is. It also won't stop Biden quipping 'convicted felon' every opportunity he can. | |||
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"In a sane world, this conviction would finish him but he'll likely be POTUS in a few months time. Crazy times! Exactly my thoughts, what is this really going to do / achieve, other than give people another labelto add to the many that are attached to Trump. I get this for the core support. Nothing he can do will change their minds. But for floating voters. Would they be happy with a convicted felon being in charge of the party of law and order, would they be happy with someone who cheated on his wife with a pornstar in charge of the party of family values? you actually think that matters to most people? Most people are likley to vote for someone who will put more money in there pockets morals hardly come into it, i thought you would understand that after the last 15_20 years Normally I would agree. But in this instance Trump wasn't even trying to do that. For example he was trying his best to remove access to healthcare for millions of the poorest Americans right in the middle of the worst pandemic in living memory. Meanwhile giving himself tax breaks. In the US many believe you should stand on your own 2 feet, even when it comes to medical cover and they do not want their tax $'s going towards the support of others. We have the same views here, be it illegal immigration costs, NHS, unemployed and so on. A lot of people believe in straight talking, this is not unique to the US but Trump resonates their mistrust of the government. That sounds wildly out of balance for giving Trump support, but I read the same type of mistrust of the government in here from people, who say they would vote for anyone other than tory. Johnson was not a million miles away from Trump in both his attitude and his actions, but he had an amazing amount of support. Trump polarises opinion, there is no real middle ground for him, so it is either love or hate." Interesting. How do you reckon Trump managed to convince people that he is straight talking, and the one for people who don't trust the government to vote for, even though he was the government when he was president? And honestly, I do not understand the US's enthusiasm for having to buy inefficient over priced insurance. Meanwhile being both very patriotic, love their country while not caring if their fellow Americans die due to lack of access to healthcare. | |||
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"In a sane world, this conviction would finish him but he'll likely be POTUS in a few months time. Crazy times! Exactly my thoughts, what is this really going to do / achieve, other than give people another labelto add to the many that are attached to Trump. I get this for the core support. Nothing he can do will change their minds. But for floating voters. Would they be happy with a convicted felon being in charge of the party of law and order, would they be happy with someone who cheated on his wife with a pornstar in charge of the party of family values? you actually think that matters to most people? Most people are likley to vote for someone who will put more money in there pockets morals hardly come into it, i thought you would understand that after the last 15_20 years Normally I would agree. But in this instance Trump wasn't even trying to do that. For example he was trying his best to remove access to healthcare for millions of the poorest Americans right in the middle of the worst pandemic in living memory. Meanwhile giving himself tax breaks. In the US many believe you should stand on your own 2 feet, even when it comes to medical cover and they do not want their tax $'s going towards the support of others. We have the same views here, be it illegal immigration costs, NHS, unemployed and so on. A lot of people believe in straight talking, this is not unique to the US but Trump resonates their mistrust of the government. That sounds wildly out of balance for giving Trump support, but I read the same type of mistrust of the government in here from people, who say they would vote for anyone other than tory. Johnson was not a million miles away from Trump in both his attitude and his actions, but he had an amazing amount of support. Trump polarises opinion, there is no real middle ground for him, so it is either love or hate. Interesting. How do you reckon Trump managed to convince people that he is straight talking, and the one for people who don't trust the government to vote for, even though he was the government when he was president? And honestly, I do not understand the US's enthusiasm for having to buy inefficient over priced insurance. Meanwhile being both very patriotic, love their country while not caring if their fellow Americans die due to lack of access to healthcare. " The message is about trusting Trump the straight talking protector of the USA and its citizens. That is Trump's golden ticket, right there, nothing more or less. | |||
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"In a sane world, this conviction would finish him but he'll likely be POTUS in a few months time. Crazy times! Exactly my thoughts, what is this really going to do / achieve, other than give people another labelto add to the many that are attached to Trump. I get this for the core support. Nothing he can do will change their minds. But for floating voters. Would they be happy with a convicted felon being in charge of the party of law and order, would they be happy with someone who cheated on his wife with a pornstar in charge of the party of family values? you actually think that matters to most people? Most people are likley to vote for someone who will put more money in there pockets morals hardly come into it, i thought you would understand that after the last 15_20 years Normally I would agree. But in this instance Trump wasn't even trying to do that. For example he was trying his best to remove access to healthcare for millions of the poorest Americans right in the middle of the worst pandemic in living memory. Meanwhile giving himself tax breaks. In the US many believe you should stand on your own 2 feet, even when it comes to medical cover and they do not want their tax $'s going towards the support of others. We have the same views here, be it illegal immigration costs, NHS, unemployed and so on. A lot of people believe in straight talking, this is not unique to the US but Trump resonates their mistrust of the government. That sounds wildly out of balance for giving Trump support, but I read the same type of mistrust of the government in here from people, who say they would vote for anyone other than tory. Johnson was not a million miles away from Trump in both his attitude and his actions, but he had an amazing amount of support. Trump polarises opinion, there is no real middle ground for him, so it is either love or hate. Interesting. How do you reckon Trump managed to convince people that he is straight talking, and the one for people who don't trust the government to vote for, even though he was the government when he was president? And honestly, I do not understand the US's enthusiasm for having to buy inefficient over priced insurance. Meanwhile being both very patriotic, love their country while not caring if their fellow Americans die due to lack of access to healthcare. The message is about trusting Trump the straight talking protector of the USA and its citizens. That is Trump's golden ticket, right there, nothing more or less." So the message trumps his actions. (Pun intended). | |||
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"In a sane world, this conviction would finish him but he'll likely be POTUS in a few months time. Crazy times! Exactly my thoughts, what is this really going to do / achieve, other than give people another labelto add to the many that are attached to Trump. I get this for the core support. Nothing he can do will change their minds. But for floating voters. Would they be happy with a convicted felon being in charge of the party of law and order, would they be happy with someone who cheated on his wife with a pornstar in charge of the party of family values? you actually think that matters to most people? Most people are likley to vote for someone who will put more money in there pockets morals hardly come into it, i thought you would understand that after the last 15_20 years Normally I would agree. But in this instance Trump wasn't even trying to do that. For example he was trying his best to remove access to healthcare for millions of the poorest Americans right in the middle of the worst pandemic in living memory. Meanwhile giving himself tax breaks. In the US many believe you should stand on your own 2 feet, even when it comes to medical cover and they do not want their tax $'s going towards the support of others. We have the same views here, be it illegal immigration costs, NHS, unemployed and so on. A lot of people believe in straight talking, this is not unique to the US but Trump resonates their mistrust of the government. That sounds wildly out of balance for giving Trump support, but I read the same type of mistrust of the government in here from people, who say they would vote for anyone other than tory. Johnson was not a million miles away from Trump in both his attitude and his actions, but he had an amazing amount of support. Trump polarises opinion, there is no real middle ground for him, so it is either love or hate. Interesting. How do you reckon Trump managed to convince people that he is straight talking, and the one for people who don't trust the government to vote for, even though he was the government when he was president? And honestly, I do not understand the US's enthusiasm for having to buy inefficient over priced insurance. Meanwhile being both very patriotic, love their country while not caring if their fellow Americans die due to lack of access to healthcare. The message is about trusting Trump the straight talking protector of the USA and its citizens. That is Trump's golden ticket, right there, nothing more or less. So the message trumps his actions. (Pun intended)." It does | |||
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