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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing?" Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.  | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way. "Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world? | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world? "Is it the events in the time we are living through that are making people so anti business profiting? It does seems heavily weighted against business or people making money that I feel it is. | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world?
Is it the events in the time we are living through that are making people so anti business profiting? It does seems heavily weighted against business or people making money that I feel it is."Possibly, but I think generally there is a lack of understanding of business and shareholders. There are commonly portrayed as villains - but without shareholders prepared to take risks with their capital there are no companies. No companies = no innovation, no products, no services, no jobs, not taxes. | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world?
Is it the events in the time we are living through that are making people so anti business profiting? It does seems heavily weighted against business or people making money that I feel it is.
Possibly, but I think generally there is a lack of understanding of business and shareholders. There are commonly portrayed as villains - but without shareholders prepared to take risks with their capital there are no companies. No companies = no innovation, no products, no services, no jobs, not taxes."I’m an out and out capitalist, but even I can sense the mood is bitter and not getting any better. Change of government should bring some sort of balance | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world?
Is it the events in the time we are living through that are making people so anti business profiting? It does seems heavily weighted against business or people making money that I feel it is.
Possibly, but I think generally there is a lack of understanding of business and shareholders. There are commonly portrayed as villains - but without shareholders prepared to take risks with their capital there are no companies. No companies = no innovation, no products, no services, no jobs, not taxes.
I’m an out and out capitalist, but even I can sense the mood is bitter and not getting any better.
Change of government should bring some sort of balance"It is the fact that the difference between the have's and have not's is too great. The wealthy are swanning around in super yachts, living a life of luxury, awarding themselves pay rises which are greater than inflation yet denying similar pay rises to those who actually need them. The government are openly awarding contracts to their friends and those same contracts usually go over budget at a cost to the tax payer who always pays whilst the rich dodge taxes. It cannot continue but I am unsure how a new government can change things apart from appearing to be more honest. The country (the western world) needs a bigger change and wealth needs to be distributed more evenly. | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world?
Is it the events in the time we are living through that are making people so anti business profiting? It does seems heavily weighted against business or people making money that I feel it is.
Possibly, but I think generally there is a lack of understanding of business and shareholders. There are commonly portrayed as villains - but without shareholders prepared to take risks with their capital there are no companies. No companies = no innovation, no products, no services, no jobs, not taxes.
I’m an out and out capitalist, but even I can sense the mood is bitter and not getting any better.
Change of government should bring some sort of balance
It is the fact that the difference between the have's and have not's is too great.
The wealthy are swanning around in super yachts, living a life of luxury, awarding themselves pay rises which are greater than inflation yet denying similar pay rises to those who actually need them.
The government are openly awarding contracts to their friends and those same contracts usually go over budget at a cost to the tax payer who always pays whilst the rich dodge taxes.
It cannot continue but I am unsure how a new government can change things apart from appearing to be more honest.
The country (the western world) needs a bigger change and wealth needs to be distributed more evenly."Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working. The idea of people swanning around making money out of peoples misery while sipping champagne on yachts is the issue, that is not the top 1%, that is the top 0000.1%. Right now we are feeling pressure and I can understand how people make connections with PPE contracts etc, a tory leader worth millions and using it as an example why things are not balanced. Labour goventment will remove some of this | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world?
Is it the events in the time we are living through that are making people so anti business profiting? It does seems heavily weighted against business or people making money that I feel it is.
Possibly, but I think generally there is a lack of understanding of business and shareholders. There are commonly portrayed as villains - but without shareholders prepared to take risks with their capital there are no companies. No companies = no innovation, no products, no services, no jobs, not taxes.
I’m an out and out capitalist, but even I can sense the mood is bitter and not getting any better.
Change of government should bring some sort of balance
It is the fact that the difference between the have's and have not's is too great.
The wealthy are swanning around in super yachts, living a life of luxury, awarding themselves pay rises which are greater than inflation yet denying similar pay rises to those who actually need them.
The government are openly awarding contracts to their friends and those same contracts usually go over budget at a cost to the tax payer who always pays whilst the rich dodge taxes.
It cannot continue but I am unsure how a new government can change things apart from appearing to be more honest.
The country (the western world) needs a bigger change and wealth needs to be distributed more evenly.
Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working.
The idea of people swanning around making money out of peoples misery while sipping champagne on yachts is the issue, that is not the top 1%, that is the top 0000.1%.
Right now we are feeling pressure and I can understand how people make connections with PPE contracts etc, a tory leader worth millions and using it as an example why things are not balanced.
Labour goventment will remove some of this""Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working" What examples? | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world?
Is it the events in the time we are living through that are making people so anti business profiting? It does seems heavily weighted against business or people making money that I feel it is.
Possibly, but I think generally there is a lack of understanding of business and shareholders. There are commonly portrayed as villains - but without shareholders prepared to take risks with their capital there are no companies. No companies = no innovation, no products, no services, no jobs, not taxes.
I’m an out and out capitalist, but even I can sense the mood is bitter and not getting any better.
Change of government should bring some sort of balance
It is the fact that the difference between the have's and have not's is too great.
The wealthy are swanning around in super yachts, living a life of luxury, awarding themselves pay rises which are greater than inflation yet denying similar pay rises to those who actually need them.
The government are openly awarding contracts to their friends and those same contracts usually go over budget at a cost to the tax payer who always pays whilst the rich dodge taxes.
It cannot continue but I am unsure how a new government can change things apart from appearing to be more honest.
The country (the western world) needs a bigger change and wealth needs to be distributed more evenly.
Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working.
The idea of people swanning around making money out of peoples misery while sipping champagne on yachts is the issue, that is not the top 1%, that is the top 0000.1%.
Right now we are feeling pressure and I can understand how people make connections with PPE contracts etc, a tory leader worth millions and using it as an example why things are not balanced.
Labour goventment will remove some of this
"Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working"
What examples?"Communism | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world?
Is it the events in the time we are living through that are making people so anti business profiting? It does seems heavily weighted against business or people making money that I feel it is.
Possibly, but I think generally there is a lack of understanding of business and shareholders. There are commonly portrayed as villains - but without shareholders prepared to take risks with their capital there are no companies. No companies = no innovation, no products, no services, no jobs, not taxes.
I’m an out and out capitalist, but even I can sense the mood is bitter and not getting any better.
Change of government should bring some sort of balance
It is the fact that the difference between the have's and have not's is too great.
The wealthy are swanning around in super yachts, living a life of luxury, awarding themselves pay rises which are greater than inflation yet denying similar pay rises to those who actually need them.
The government are openly awarding contracts to their friends and those same contracts usually go over budget at a cost to the tax payer who always pays whilst the rich dodge taxes.
It cannot continue but I am unsure how a new government can change things apart from appearing to be more honest.
The country (the western world) needs a bigger change and wealth needs to be distributed more evenly.
Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working.
The idea of people swanning around making money out of peoples misery while sipping champagne on yachts is the issue, that is not the top 1%, that is the top 0000.1%.
Right now we are feeling pressure and I can understand how people make connections with PPE contracts etc, a tory leader worth millions and using it as an example why things are not balanced.
Labour goventment will remove some of this"I think you intended your decimal point to be elsewhere 0000.1 = 0.1  | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world?
Is it the events in the time we are living through that are making people so anti business profiting? It does seems heavily weighted against business or people making money that I feel it is.
Possibly, but I think generally there is a lack of understanding of business and shareholders. There are commonly portrayed as villains - but without shareholders prepared to take risks with their capital there are no companies. No companies = no innovation, no products, no services, no jobs, not taxes.
I’m an out and out capitalist, but even I can sense the mood is bitter and not getting any better.
Change of government should bring some sort of balance
It is the fact that the difference between the have's and have not's is too great.
The wealthy are swanning around in super yachts, living a life of luxury, awarding themselves pay rises which are greater than inflation yet denying similar pay rises to those who actually need them.
The government are openly awarding contracts to their friends and those same contracts usually go over budget at a cost to the tax payer who always pays whilst the rich dodge taxes.
It cannot continue but I am unsure how a new government can change things apart from appearing to be more honest.
The country (the western world) needs a bigger change and wealth needs to be distributed more evenly.
Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working.
The idea of people swanning around making money out of peoples misery while sipping champagne on yachts is the issue, that is not the top 1%, that is the top 0000.1%.
Right now we are feeling pressure and I can understand how people make connections with PPE contracts etc, a tory leader worth millions and using it as an example why things are not balanced.
Labour goventment will remove some of this
"Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working"
What examples?
Communism"Communism is a totally different regime and not necessarily a fairer distribution of wealth. Why can't wages be increased for the less wealthy so that they can clothe and feed their children without having to depend on food banks and charity shops. We had this in the 1800 with poor houses and industrialists. Surely in the 21st century we should have found a way to ensure that everyone can live without reporting to poverty. Why should people pay less taxes when they are rich because they can fiddle the system and afford to pay accountants to do so? Why should politicians not be held to account for their gross errors and cronyism? Why should the proletariat be led by the media which is controlled by the wealthy few to make them believe that it is someone else's fault that they are suffering? The system needs to change but communism is not the answer (at least we agree with that). | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world?
Is it the events in the time we are living through that are making people so anti business profiting? It does seems heavily weighted against business or people making money that I feel it is.
Possibly, but I think generally there is a lack of understanding of business and shareholders. There are commonly portrayed as villains - but without shareholders prepared to take risks with their capital there are no companies. No companies = no innovation, no products, no services, no jobs, not taxes.
I’m an out and out capitalist, but even I can sense the mood is bitter and not getting any better.
Change of government should bring some sort of balance
It is the fact that the difference between the have's and have not's is too great.
The wealthy are swanning around in super yachts, living a life of luxury, awarding themselves pay rises which are greater than inflation yet denying similar pay rises to those who actually need them.
The government are openly awarding contracts to their friends and those same contracts usually go over budget at a cost to the tax payer who always pays whilst the rich dodge taxes.
It cannot continue but I am unsure how a new government can change things apart from appearing to be more honest.
The country (the western world) needs a bigger change and wealth needs to be distributed more evenly.
Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working.
The idea of people swanning around making money out of peoples misery while sipping champagne on yachts is the issue, that is not the top 1%, that is the top 0000.1%.
Right now we are feeling pressure and I can understand how people make connections with PPE contracts etc, a tory leader worth millions and using it as an example why things are not balanced.
Labour goventment will remove some of this
I think you intended your decimal point to be elsewhere 0000.1 = 0.1 " I did but more .00001% | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world?
Is it the events in the time we are living through that are making people so anti business profiting? It does seems heavily weighted against business or people making money that I feel it is.
Possibly, but I think generally there is a lack of understanding of business and shareholders. There are commonly portrayed as villains - but without shareholders prepared to take risks with their capital there are no companies. No companies = no innovation, no products, no services, no jobs, not taxes.
I’m an out and out capitalist, but even I can sense the mood is bitter and not getting any better.
Change of government should bring some sort of balance
It is the fact that the difference between the have's and have not's is too great.
The wealthy are swanning around in super yachts, living a life of luxury, awarding themselves pay rises which are greater than inflation yet denying similar pay rises to those who actually need them.
The government are openly awarding contracts to their friends and those same contracts usually go over budget at a cost to the tax payer who always pays whilst the rich dodge taxes.
It cannot continue but I am unsure how a new government can change things apart from appearing to be more honest.
The country (the western world) needs a bigger change and wealth needs to be distributed more evenly.
Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working.
The idea of people swanning around making money out of peoples misery while sipping champagne on yachts is the issue, that is not the top 1%, that is the top 0000.1%.
Right now we are feeling pressure and I can understand how people make connections with PPE contracts etc, a tory leader worth millions and using it as an example why things are not balanced.
Labour goventment will remove some of this
"Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working"
What examples?
Communism
Communism is a totally different regime and not necessarily a fairer distribution of wealth.
Why can't wages be increased for the less wealthy so that they can clothe and feed their children without having to depend on food banks and charity shops.
We had this in the 1800 with poor houses and industrialists. Surely in the 21st century we should have found a way to ensure that everyone can live without reporting to poverty.
Why should people pay less taxes when they are rich because they can fiddle the system and afford to pay accountants to do so?
Why should politicians not be held to account for their gross errors and cronyism?
Why should the proletariat be led by the media which is controlled by the wealthy few to make them believe that it is someone else's fault that they are suffering?
The system needs to change but communism is not the answer (at least we agree with that).
"You asked for a different model. Communism is a different model. The ideology is that wealth and costs are distributed. However, when "man" rules other "men", power corrupts. | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world?
Is it the events in the time we are living through that are making people so anti business profiting? It does seems heavily weighted against business or people making money that I feel it is.
Possibly, but I think generally there is a lack of understanding of business and shareholders. There are commonly portrayed as villains - but without shareholders prepared to take risks with their capital there are no companies. No companies = no innovation, no products, no services, no jobs, not taxes.
I’m an out and out capitalist, but even I can sense the mood is bitter and not getting any better.
Change of government should bring some sort of balance
It is the fact that the difference between the have's and have not's is too great.
The wealthy are swanning around in super yachts, living a life of luxury, awarding themselves pay rises which are greater than inflation yet denying similar pay rises to those who actually need them.
The government are openly awarding contracts to their friends and those same contracts usually go over budget at a cost to the tax payer who always pays whilst the rich dodge taxes.
It cannot continue but I am unsure how a new government can change things apart from appearing to be more honest.
The country (the western world) needs a bigger change and wealth needs to be distributed more evenly.
Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working.
The idea of people swanning around making money out of peoples misery while sipping champagne on yachts is the issue, that is not the top 1%, that is the top 0000.1%.
Right now we are feeling pressure and I can understand how people make connections with PPE contracts etc, a tory leader worth millions and using it as an example why things are not balanced.
Labour goventment will remove some of this
"Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working"
What examples?
Communism
Communism is a totally different regime and not necessarily a fairer distribution of wealth.
Why can't wages be increased for the less wealthy so that they can clothe and feed their children without having to depend on food banks and charity shops.
We had this in the 1800 with poor houses and industrialists. Surely in the 21st century we should have found a way to ensure that everyone can live without reporting to poverty.
Why should people pay less taxes when they are rich because they can fiddle the system and afford to pay accountants to do so?
Why should politicians not be held to account for their gross errors and cronyism?
Why should the proletariat be led by the media which is controlled by the wealthy few to make them believe that it is someone else's fault that they are suffering?
The system needs to change but communism is not the answer (at least we agree with that).
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world?
Is it the events in the time we are living through that are making people so anti business profiting? It does seems heavily weighted against business or people making money that I feel it is.
Possibly, but I think generally there is a lack of understanding of business and shareholders. There are commonly portrayed as villains - but without shareholders prepared to take risks with their capital there are no companies. No companies = no innovation, no products, no services, no jobs, not taxes.
I’m an out and out capitalist, but even I can sense the mood is bitter and not getting any better.
Change of government should bring some sort of balance
It is the fact that the difference between the have's and have not's is too great.
The wealthy are swanning around in super yachts, living a life of luxury, awarding themselves pay rises which are greater than inflation yet denying similar pay rises to those who actually need them.
The government are openly awarding contracts to their friends and those same contracts usually go over budget at a cost to the tax payer who always pays whilst the rich dodge taxes.
It cannot continue but I am unsure how a new government can change things apart from appearing to be more honest.
The country (the western world) needs a bigger change and wealth needs to be distributed more evenly.
Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working.
The idea of people swanning around making money out of peoples misery while sipping champagne on yachts is the issue, that is not the top 1%, that is the top 0000.1%.
Right now we are feeling pressure and I can understand how people make connections with PPE contracts etc, a tory leader worth millions and using it as an example why things are not balanced.
Labour goventment will remove some of this
"Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working"
What examples?
Communism
Communism is a totally different regime and not necessarily a fairer distribution of wealth.
Why can't wages be increased for the less wealthy so that they can clothe and feed their children without having to depend on food banks and charity shops.
We had this in the 1800 with poor houses and industrialists. Surely in the 21st century we should have found a way to ensure that everyone can live without reporting to poverty.
Why should people pay less taxes when they are rich because they can fiddle the system and afford to pay accountants to do so?
Why should politicians not be held to account for their gross errors and cronyism?
Why should the proletariat be led by the media which is controlled by the wealthy few to make them believe that it is someone else's fault that they are suffering?
The system needs to change but communism is not the answer (at least we agree with that).
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"The gap between the “rich” and “poor” is greater than it was in the post war years. The super rich have indeed become super rich while normal workers are experiencing a cost of living crisis and struggling to pay rent, utilities and eat while getting below inflation pay rises. The multiple between CEO pay and lowest paid in companies is higher than ever. However, I think the real problem is visibility. There have always been super rich people. But in the past it was more hidden and displays of wealth were considered vulgar. The lifestyles of the super rich were not so clearly flaunted in ordinary people’s faces. Not so now. It started with glossy magazines but now the internet is awash with people living out their wealthy lives in public. There is something highly perverse that during a cost of living crisis TB stations have programmes showing how rich a few people are (property programmes like Britain’s most expensive homes and reality shows). People post pictures of their exotic holidays, new cars, clothes, jewellery etc etc. It is all about “look at me and my fabulous life” and just generates envy. There is no class and it is all getting so crass. When you then factor in very wealthy people being in Government and seemingly dodgy contracts being awarded to their mates/family using our money to make them even richer…no wonder there is a mood shift. " Agree with you that the optics have changed recently. Super rich have always existed. With the advent of TV and social media, people get to actually see rich people doing rich people stuff and that creates frustration for people who couldn't do it. IMO economic mobility is more important than the wealth gap itself. Many people use wealth gap to show us how the economy is terrible. The problem with the wealth gap argument is they act like you have two groups of people who are consistently having same levels of wealth and ought to fight with each other. Even in the US, 70% of households reach top 20% income earners at least once in their lives. As long as economic mobility exists, wealth gap shouldn't matter. | |||
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"Remember an interview with Warren Buffett who was asked about wealth distribution His answer, those that are wealthy were borne into a society that allowed them to progress to become wealthy. They would not have been, if they had been borne in Bangladesh for example. " Are you saying that there aren't rich people from Bangladesh? There are plenty of rags to riches and riches to rags stories. | |||
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"Remember an interview with Warren Buffett who was asked about wealth distribution His answer, those that are wealthy were borne into a society that allowed them to progress to become wealthy. They would not have been, if they had been borne in Bangladesh for example. Are you saying that there aren't rich people from Bangladesh? There are plenty of rags to riches and riches to rags stories." I’m saying buffet said life chances better for wealth creation in developed countries. | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world?
Is it the events in the time we are living through that are making people so anti business profiting? It does seems heavily weighted against business or people making money that I feel it is.
Possibly, but I think generally there is a lack of understanding of business and shareholders. There are commonly portrayed as villains - but without shareholders prepared to take risks with their capital there are no companies. No companies = no innovation, no products, no services, no jobs, not taxes.
I’m an out and out capitalist, but even I can sense the mood is bitter and not getting any better.
Change of government should bring some sort of balance
It is the fact that the difference between the have's and have not's is too great.
The wealthy are swanning around in super yachts, living a life of luxury, awarding themselves pay rises which are greater than inflation yet denying similar pay rises to those who actually need them.
The government are openly awarding contracts to their friends and those same contracts usually go over budget at a cost to the tax payer who always pays whilst the rich dodge taxes.
It cannot continue but I am unsure how a new government can change things apart from appearing to be more honest.
The country (the western world) needs a bigger change and wealth needs to be distributed more evenly.
Distributing wealth as you say does not work, we have many examples of that model not working.
The idea of people swanning around making money out of peoples misery while sipping champagne on yachts is the issue, that is not the top 1%, that is the top 0000.1%.
Right now we are feeling pressure and I can understand how people make connections with PPE contracts etc, a tory leader worth millions and using it as an example why things are not balanced.
Labour goventment will remove some of this"I hope they do as Labour are nailed on to be the next government. One thing to remember though is if you destroy or drive away the creation of wealth then you will have none to distribute | |||
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"Here is the wealth share of the richest 1% in Europe https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1758578249922224370 UK is at the third from the bottom. I wonder what people feel about this. Especially surprising is that the countries following the great "Scandinavian model" have much higher concentration of wealth amongst the top 1% compared to UK. Is it a good thing or bad thing? Some people don't like other people to have wealth in the uk, the post, should millionaires pay more tax showed that, you don't want to get wealthy in the uk cuz hate will come your way.
Sadly true. Just reading these forums, the tone is anti business, anti wealth and profit is a dirty word. With that mindset how can our nation prosper in a capitalist world? "I think the rise in this anti big business was always there but the great unwashed preaching against businesses on their soap boxes were largely dismissed as the idiots most of them are. Then social media came along and the great unwashed find it easier to manipulate and brain wash those that aren't capable of understanding that not everything they read on the internet is actually true. COVID was a prime example of how easily manipulated people can be, everyone wanted to be polarised one way or the other If the poor people got paid more for doing menial tasks then who would want the stress of the high paid jobs ? | |||
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