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"George Galloway is back... Is/can it be more than just a protest party?!.. He's correct on a lot of things and will be shaking up pmqs for sure.. " Another crook in a den of thieves, he will fit right in. | |||
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"I don't know a lot about them it has 3 deputy leaders. One A train driver, also a former Labour MP & a former diplomat I can't find any information on the number of members in the party & of course other so called left wing party's are available Like NIP in the north & TUSC for eg. If all these groups joined forces and perhaps the SNP joined them then a robust political movement could push the establishment. Whatever happens we need rid of the current government first of all & the likes of George & the left can push Starmer & the blue Labour party and take them to task. " Why would the SNP join Galloway? He’s a longtime critic of Scots Indy. Also: He’s a wanker. | |||
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"I don't know a lot about them it has 3 deputy leaders. One A train driver, also a former Labour MP & a former diplomat I can't find any information on the number of members in the party & of course other so called left wing party's are available Like NIP in the north & TUSC for eg. If all these groups joined forces and perhaps the SNP joined them then a robust political movement could push the establishment. Whatever happens we need rid of the current government first of all & the likes of George & the left can push Starmer & the blue Labour party and take them to task. Why would the SNP join Galloway? He’s a longtime critic of Scots Indy. Also: He’s a wanker." Well I did say (if) these groups joined forces. But let's face it the Lib Dems joined the Tory's for a bit of power! Also the DUP coalition Anything is possible in the world of politics. My personal belief is that George Galloway's victory is a one off. What I would like to see is an alternative to The shit we have now & are going to have with Starmer | |||
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"I don't know a lot about them it has 3 deputy leaders. One A train driver, also a former Labour MP & a former diplomat I can't find any information on the number of members in the party & of course other so called left wing party's are available Like NIP in the north & TUSC for eg. If all these groups joined forces and perhaps the SNP joined them then a robust political movement could push the establishment. Whatever happens we need rid of the current government first of all & the likes of George & the left can push Starmer & the blue Labour party and take them to task. Why would the SNP join Galloway? He’s a longtime critic of Scots Indy. Also: He’s a wanker." And the SNP have travelled very far from their left wing origins. | |||
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"I don't know a lot about them it has 3 deputy leaders. One A train driver, also a former Labour MP & a former diplomat I can't find any information on the number of members in the party & of course other so called left wing party's are available Like NIP in the north & TUSC for eg. If all these groups joined forces and perhaps the SNP joined them then a robust political movement could push the establishment. Whatever happens we need rid of the current government first of all & the likes of George & the left can push Starmer & the blue Labour party and take them to task. Why would the SNP join Galloway? He’s a longtime critic of Scots Indy. Also: He’s a wanker. Well I did say (if) these groups joined forces. But let's face it the Lib Dems joined the Tory's for a bit of power! Also the DUP coalition Anything is possible in the world of politics. My personal belief is that George Galloway's victory is a one off. What I would like to see is an alternative to The shit we have now & are going to have with Starmer " No serious political party is ever going to join up with Galloway, more chance of the likes of Reform or that other one that begins with R, or the Conservatives. | |||
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"What I would like to say is the way I differ from most people is that I don't think or vote for a party because I like the leader or the personality's in that party. I vote on the policy's and political direction of the party's manifesto, In short I vote for policy's not personality I am also quite aware of how the media & newspapers manipulate news, thinks like photop, removing a poppy say or putting a Russian type hat on Corbyn as an eg to make them look bad. My advice is to keep an open mind as I would rather be 2 or 3 grand better off voting for a party with a tool of a leader than being 2 Or 3 grand worse off voting for a party with a slick leader that I did like." I don't think you do differ from most people. The 'you vote the way the media tell you to' is mostly just the left wing throwing their toys out of the pram when they lose. | |||
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"Time to tell them the 2 party system game is up and vote for something different instead. MSM are telling us labour are the next party, i say they are programming us to vote labour. I say vote for no one and watch their system go up in flames." Nope. The reality is that most people who vote will still opt for one or the other of the two main parties. However, the election will be one by the party that can retain their traditional vote among those who want to abstain. | |||
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"Its time for real change now, enough of Tory and Labour running things" Who’s offering effective and progressive change? | |||
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"What I would like to say is the way I differ from most people is that I don't think or vote for a party because I like the leader or the personality's in that party. I vote on the policy's and political direction of the party's manifesto, In short I vote for policy's not personality I am also quite aware of how the media & newspapers manipulate news, thinks like photop, removing a poppy say or putting a Russian type hat on Corbyn as an eg to make them look bad. My advice is to keep an open mind as I would rather be 2 or 3 grand better off voting for a party with a tool of a leader than being 2 Or 3 grand worse off voting for a party with a slick leader that I did like. I don't think you do differ from most people. The 'you vote the way the media tell you to' is mostly just the left wing throwing their toys out of the pram when they lose. " Always fun to see people who don’t think they aren’t influenced by the media, the vast majority of which is right wing. | |||
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"What I would like to say is the way I differ from most people is that I don't think or vote for a party because I like the leader or the personality's in that party. I vote on the policy's and political direction of the party's manifesto, In short I vote for policy's not personality I am also quite aware of how the media & newspapers manipulate news, thinks like photop, removing a poppy say or putting a Russian type hat on Corbyn as an eg to make them look bad. My advice is to keep an open mind as I would rather be 2 or 3 grand better off voting for a party with a tool of a leader than being 2 Or 3 grand worse off voting for a party with a slick leader that I did like. I don't think you do differ from most people. The 'you vote the way the media tell you to' is mostly just the left wing throwing their toys out of the pram when they lose. Always fun to see people who don’t think they aren’t influenced by the media, the vast majority of which is right wing." Influenced, as in going to aldi for their great 3 for 2 offers on fruit and veg or influenced by someone's opinion they read or influenced by spoken words from someone who was paid to say the words. | |||
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"What I would like to say is the way I differ from most people is that I don't think or vote for a party because I like the leader or the personality's in that party. I vote on the policy's and political direction of the party's manifesto, In short I vote for policy's not personality I am also quite aware of how the media & newspapers manipulate news, thinks like photop, removing a poppy say or putting a Russian type hat on Corbyn as an eg to make them look bad. My advice is to keep an open mind as I would rather be 2 or 3 grand better off voting for a party with a tool of a leader than being 2 Or 3 grand worse off voting for a party with a slick leader that I did like. I don't think you do differ from most people. The 'you vote the way the media tell you to' is mostly just the left wing throwing their toys out of the pram when they lose. Always fun to see people who don’t think they aren’t influenced by the media, the vast majority of which is right wing. Influenced, as in going to aldi for their great 3 for 2 offers on fruit and veg or influenced by someone's opinion they read or influenced by spoken words from someone who was paid to say the words. " We are all influenced by all of those things, some people just don’t realise they are. | |||
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"What I would like to say is the way I differ from most people is that I don't think or vote for a party because I like the leader or the personality's in that party. I vote on the policy's and political direction of the party's manifesto, In short I vote for policy's not personality I am also quite aware of how the media & newspapers manipulate news, thinks like photop, removing a poppy say or putting a Russian type hat on Corbyn as an eg to make them look bad. My advice is to keep an open mind as I would rather be 2 or 3 grand better off voting for a party with a tool of a leader than being 2 Or 3 grand worse off voting for a party with a slick leader that I did like. I don't think you do differ from most people. The 'you vote the way the media tell you to' is mostly just the left wing throwing their toys out of the pram when they lose. Always fun to see people who don’t think they aren’t influenced by the media, the vast majority of which is right wing. Influenced, as in going to aldi for their great 3 for 2 offers on fruit and veg or influenced by someone's opinion they read or influenced by spoken words from someone who was paid to say the words. We are all influenced by all of those things, some people just don’t realise they are." Indeed. There’s a reason that companies spend so much on advertising. | |||
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"What I would like to say is the way I differ from most people is that I don't think or vote for a party because I like the leader or the personality's in that party. I vote on the policy's and political direction of the party's manifesto, In short I vote for policy's not personality I am also quite aware of how the media & newspapers manipulate news, thinks like photop, removing a poppy say or putting a Russian type hat on Corbyn as an eg to make them look bad. My advice is to keep an open mind as I would rather be 2 or 3 grand better off voting for a party with a tool of a leader than being 2 Or 3 grand worse off voting for a party with a slick leader that I did like. I don't think you do differ from most people. The 'you vote the way the media tell you to' is mostly just the left wing throwing their toys out of the pram when they lose. Always fun to see people who don’t think they aren’t influenced by the media, the vast majority of which is right wing. Influenced, as in going to aldi for their great 3 for 2 offers on fruit and veg or influenced by someone's opinion they read or influenced by spoken words from someone who was paid to say the words. We are all influenced by all of those things, some people just don’t realise they are." And it's only the intellectually left who realise this. | |||
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"Its time for real change now, enough of Tory and Labour running things" What change? And at what costs? | |||
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"What I would like to say is the way I differ from most people is that I don't think or vote for a party because I like the leader or the personality's in that party. I vote on the policy's and political direction of the party's manifesto, In short I vote for policy's not personality I am also quite aware of how the media & newspapers manipulate news, thinks like photop, removing a poppy say or putting a Russian type hat on Corbyn as an eg to make them look bad. My advice is to keep an open mind as I would rather be 2 or 3 grand better off voting for a party with a tool of a leader than being 2 Or 3 grand worse off voting for a party with a slick leader that I did like. I don't think you do differ from most people. The 'you vote the way the media tell you to' is mostly just the left wing throwing their toys out of the pram when they lose. Always fun to see people who don’t think they aren’t influenced by the media, the vast majority of which is right wing." And let me guess, it's only left wingers who can see when they're being 'influenced'? As I said before, you're no different to most people | |||
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" He's correct on a lot of things " He really isn't though. | |||
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"What I would like to say is the way I differ from most people is that I don't think or vote for a party because I like the leader or the personality's in that party. I vote on the policy's and political direction of the party's manifesto, In short I vote for policy's not personality I am also quite aware of how the media & newspapers manipulate news, thinks like photop, removing a poppy say or putting a Russian type hat on Corbyn as an eg to make them look bad. My advice is to keep an open mind as I would rather be 2 or 3 grand better off voting for a party with a tool of a leader than being 2 Or 3 grand worse off voting for a party with a slick leader that I did like. I don't think you do differ from most people. The 'you vote the way the media tell you to' is mostly just the left wing throwing their toys out of the pram when they lose. Always fun to see people who don’t think they aren’t influenced by the media, the vast majority of which is right wing. And let me guess, it's only left wingers who can see when they're being 'influenced'? As I said before, you're no different to most people " Let's say everyone is influenced by media. 'oh but I read a range of media!' Mail Telegraph Times Sun Express GB news Talk TV All right wing BBC is more right wing (especially it's politics and news) than left but I'm sticking it in the middle for now along with sky news just to avoid an argument about the BBC. LBC has JOB but also king gammon Ferrari. Left wing The guardian and the Mirror. So there is this massive right wing influence with a smaller left wing influence. So we have to agree if there is a media influencing is telling how to vote it's got to be telling us, on average, to vote Conservative. People saying 'dont vote' are the same as people voting green in Sunak or Starmers constituency....well done mate you really showed them and sent a message which I am sure they will listen to. | |||
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"What I would like to say is the way I differ from most people is that I don't think or vote for a party because I like the leader or the personality's in that party. I vote on the policy's and political direction of the party's manifesto, In short I vote for policy's not personality I am also quite aware of how the media & newspapers manipulate news, thinks like photop, removing a poppy say or putting a Russian type hat on Corbyn as an eg to make them look bad. My advice is to keep an open mind as I would rather be 2 or 3 grand better off voting for a party with a tool of a leader than being 2 Or 3 grand worse off voting for a party with a slick leader that I did like. I don't think you do differ from most people. The 'you vote the way the media tell you to' is mostly just the left wing throwing their toys out of the pram when they lose. Always fun to see people who don’t think they aren’t influenced by the media, the vast majority of which is right wing. And let me guess, it's only left wingers who can see when they're being 'influenced'? As I said before, you're no different to most people " Only the self aware know they are being influenced. | |||
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"Let's say everyone is influenced by media. 'oh but I read a range of media!' Mail Telegraph Times Sun Express GB news Talk TV All right wing BBC is more right wing (especially it's politics and news) than left but I'm sticking it in the middle for now along with sky news just to avoid an argument about the BBC. LBC has JOB but also king gammon Ferrari. Left wing The guardian and the Mirror. So there is this massive right wing influence with a smaller left wing influence. So we have to agree if there is a media influencing is telling how to vote it's got to be telling us, on average, to vote Conservative." That's a silly argument. If we were all assigned a media outlet at birth and then not allowed to read anything else, your argument might make sense, but that's not how things work. People are free to buy whichever paper they want, and they will buy the one that reports the news they want to hear. If a paper doesn't represent the views of its readers, they stop reading it. What this means is that there are more right wing media outlets in this country, because there are more right wing people in this country. It's not the media telling us all what to think, it's us telling the media what to print in order to make us buy the paper. And have you seen the polls recently? Voting intentions polls put Labour at 47%, and the Conservatives at 20%. If it's the media influencing all of us to vote Tory, they're doing a really bad job of it. | |||
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"Only the self aware know they are being influenced." And what is it that leads you to believe that you are self-aware, rather than believing that you've been influenced into thinking that way? | |||
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