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"Oo well just when Sunaki the flaki thought he had inflation on the run, we are introducing food trarrifs. Looks like the Boris/Mogg leavers brigade sold the people of the UK counties another lie. Well 52.6% of the voting people in the countries." 
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"Oo well just when Sunaki the flaki thought he had inflation on the run, we are introducing food trarrifs. Looks like the Boris/Mogg leavers brigade sold the people of the UK counties another lie. Well 52.6% of the voting people in the countries." Can we be fair here for a minute? I find it offensive that anyone would suggest Jacob would have sold out the British people. He and a select handful of his friends did extremely well out of Brexit, and they are British! 
Dear Boris, he simply told the people what they wanted to hear (prompted by Dominic, who is an excellent snake oil salesman) and, the simple people believed him. It is hardly his fault if 52.6% of the British electorate decided, en mass, not to do a reality check on his sales patter; is it? | |||
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"Oo well just when Sunaki the flaki thought he had inflation on the run, we are introducing food trarrifs. Looks like the Boris/Mogg leavers brigade sold the people of the UK counties another lie. Well 52.6% of the voting people in the countries. Can we be fair here for a minute? I find it offensive that anyone would suggest Jacob would have sold out the British people. He and a select handful of his friends did extremely well out of Brexit, and they are British!
Dear Boris, he simply told the people what they wanted to hear (prompted by Dominic, who is an excellent snake oil salesman) and, the simple people believed him. It is hardly his fault if 52.6% of the British electorate decided, en mass, not to do a reality check on his sales patter; is it? "Obviously you managed to withstand the snake oil sales patter. How did you manage it? Is it higher IQ? Are you made of sterner stuff? The tinfoil hat maybe? | |||
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"Oo well just when Sunaki the flaki thought he had inflation on the run, we are introducing food trarrifs. Looks like the Boris/Mogg leavers brigade sold the people of the UK counties another lie. Well 52.6% of the voting people in the countries. Can we be fair here for a minute? I find it offensive that anyone would suggest Jacob would have sold out the British people. He and a select handful of his friends did extremely well out of Brexit, and they are British!
Dear Boris, he simply told the people what they wanted to hear (prompted by Dominic, who is an excellent snake oil salesman) and, the simple people believed him. It is hardly his fault if 52.6% of the British electorate decided, en mass, not to do a reality check on his sales patter; is it?
Obviously you managed to withstand the snake oil sales patter.
How did you manage it?
Is it higher IQ? Are you made of sterner stuff? The tinfoil hat maybe?"Some rudimentary research was enough. | |||
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"What's the story here ? (Not in the country and Google isn't playing well!)" We're not actually introducing food tariffs but due to border requirements food into the UK may become more expensive | |||
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"Oo well just when Sunaki the flaki thought he had inflation on the run, we are introducing food trarrifs. Looks like the Boris/Mogg leavers brigade sold the people of the UK counties another lie. Well 52.6% of the voting people in the countries. Can we be fair here for a minute? I find it offensive that anyone would suggest Jacob would have sold out the British people. He and a select handful of his friends did extremely well out of Brexit, and they are British!
Dear Boris, he simply told the people what they wanted to hear (prompted by Dominic, who is an excellent snake oil salesman) and, the simple people believed him. It is hardly his fault if 52.6% of the British electorate decided, en mass, not to do a reality check on his sales patter; is it?
Obviously you managed to withstand the snake oil sales patter.
How did you manage it?
Is it higher IQ? Are you made of sterner stuff? The tinfoil hat maybe?
Some rudimentary research was enough. "Absolutely ridiculous. What leave voter has five minutes free in the run up to the referendum! | |||
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"Oo well just when Sunaki the flaki thought he had inflation on the run, we are introducing food trarrifs. Looks like the Boris/Mogg leavers brigade sold the people of the UK counties another lie. Well 52.6% of the voting people in the countries. Can we be fair here for a minute? I find it offensive that anyone would suggest Jacob would have sold out the British people. He and a select handful of his friends did extremely well out of Brexit, and they are British!
Dear Boris, he simply told the people what they wanted to hear (prompted by Dominic, who is an excellent snake oil salesman) and, the simple people believed him. It is hardly his fault if 52.6% of the British electorate decided, en mass, not to do a reality check on his sales patter; is it?
Obviously you managed to withstand the snake oil sales patter.
How did you manage it?
Is it higher IQ? Are you made of sterner stuff? The tinfoil hat maybe?
Some rudimentary research was enough.
Absolutely ridiculous. What leave voter has five minutes free in the run up to the referendum! "Think you mean remain voters since most of those who support remain apparently didn't register to vote.Or maybe saw the benefits of Brexit and didn't want to admit it.Reminds me of up here all the time | |||
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"Oo well just when Sunaki the flaki thought he had inflation on the run, we are introducing food trarrifs. Looks like the Boris/Mogg leavers brigade sold the people of the UK counties another lie. Well 52.6% of the voting people in the countries. Can we be fair here for a minute? I find it offensive that anyone would suggest Jacob would have sold out the British people. He and a select handful of his friends did extremely well out of Brexit, and they are British!
Dear Boris, he simply told the people what they wanted to hear (prompted by Dominic, who is an excellent snake oil salesman) and, the simple people believed him. It is hardly his fault if 52.6% of the British electorate decided, en mass, not to do a reality check on his sales patter; is it?
Obviously you managed to withstand the snake oil sales patter.
How did you manage it?
Is it higher IQ? Are you made of sterner stuff? The tinfoil hat maybe?
Some rudimentary research was enough.
Absolutely ridiculous. What leave voter has five minutes free in the run up to the referendum!
Think you mean remain voters since most of those who support remain apparently didn't register to vote.
"Is that true, doesn't seem to add up with the number of people eligible to vote, who didn't. " Or maybe saw the benefits of Brexit and didn't want to admit it. " Seeing as we haven't yet found any benefits yet. I think it's safe to rule out this possibility. " Reminds me of up here all the time" Where is "up here"? | |||
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"Or maybe saw the benefits of Brexit and didn't want to admit it.Reminds me of up here all the time" Is that you, David Davis? | |||
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"What's the story here ? (Not in the country and Google isn't playing well!) We're not actually introducing food tariffs but due to border requirements food into the UK may become more expensive" If it costs more to make / produce then why can't ti just be a free market how ever makes it the cheapest is where you get it from NO If you better qualify you pay more. Is it food is expensive or do we eat poor food. | |||
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"What's the story here ? (Not in the country and Google isn't playing well!) That would be the case if we were domestic producers but we import most of our food.That is changing but slowly We're not actually introducing food tariffs but due to border requirements food into the UK may become more expensive If it costs more to make / produce then why can't ti just be a free market how ever makes it the cheapest is where you get it from NO If you better qualify you pay more. Is it food is expensive or do we eat poor food. " Supermarkets bulk buy by the millions weeks in advance. Ability to supply large quantities is often more important than cheapest price. Part of why we joined the EEC in the first place though that did screw over Argentina by a lot We've had to put up checks that means more has to paid in each stage of the process to the shelves and prices have gone up in general due to instability within the EU. Especially the strikes in Spain from last year caused a major upset Basically everything is ordered about a month in advance of it even being picked. | |||
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"What's the story here ? (Not in the country and Google isn't playing well!) That would be the case if we were domestic producers but we import most of our food.That is changing but slowly We're not actually introducing food tariffs but due to border requirements food into the UK may become more expensive If it costs more to make / produce then why can't ti just be a free market how ever makes it the cheapest is where you get it from NO If you better qualify you pay more. Is it food is expensive or do we eat poor food. Supermarkets bulk buy by the millions weeks in advance. Ability to supply large quantities is often more important than cheapest price. Part of why we joined the EEC in the first place though that did screw over Argentina by a lot We've had to put up checks that means more has to paid in each stage of the process to the shelves and prices have gone up in general due to instability within the EU. Especially the strikes in Spain from last year caused a major upset Basically everything is ordered about a month in advance of it even being picked." JIT supply chains are absolutely fine until they run into problems, because even a day’s delay can cause massive onward problems. Which is why we await April and October with interest and some hesitation, as we finally implement Brexit. | |||
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"What's the story here ? (Not in the country and Google isn't playing well!) That would be the case if we were domestic producers but we import most of our food.That is changing but slowly We're not actually introducing food tariffs but due to border requirements food into the UK may become more expensive If it costs more to make / produce then why can't ti just be a free market how ever makes it the cheapest is where you get it from NO If you better qualify you pay more. Is it food is expensive or do we eat poor food. Supermarkets bulk buy by the millions weeks in advance. Ability to supply large quantities is often more important than cheapest price. Part of why we joined the EEC in the first place though that did screw over Argentina by a lot We've had to put up checks that means more has to paid in each stage of the process to the shelves and prices have gone up in general due to instability within the EU. Especially the strikes in Spain from last year caused a major upset Basically everything is ordered about a month in advance of it even being picked. JIT supply chains are absolutely fine until they run into problems, because even a day’s delay can cause massive onward problems. Which is why we await April and October with interest and some hesitation, as we finally implement Brexit. " So is this about Brexit or we no longer buy seasonal produce and all expect alcohol, crisps, fizzy drinks and sugger "including chocolate cake and sweets" to be part of an everyday diet. | |||
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"Oo well just when Sunaki the flaki thought he had inflation on the run, we are introducing food trarrifs. Looks like the Boris/Mogg leavers brigade sold the people of the UK counties another lie. Well 52.6% of the voting people in the countries." I've not seen anything about tariffs being introduced. I see the UK is finally going to start proper import checks in the same way that the EU started years ago. The UK farmers have been calling for this for years as they had to go through the checks when selling into the EU but their EU competition could send produce to the UK without such checks so had an advantage. It would not surprise me if the government mess up this latest attempt to do the checks. Apparently according to the BBC it could add 0.2% to inflation over 3 years though forecasts are often not great | |||
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"Oo well just when Sunaki the flaki thought he had inflation on the run, we are introducing food trarrifs. Looks like the Boris/Mogg leavers brigade sold the people of the UK counties another lie. Well 52.6% of the voting people in the countries. Can we be fair here for a minute? I find it offensive that anyone would suggest Jacob would have sold out the British people. He and a select handful of his friends did extremely well out of Brexit, and they are British!
Dear Boris, he simply told the people what they wanted to hear (prompted by Dominic, who is an excellent snake oil salesman) and, the simple people believed him. It is hardly his fault if 52.6% of the British electorate decided, en mass, not to do a reality check on his sales patter; is it? "Was Cummings around during the referendum? Or are you on about when Bojo became PM? People like to forget the referendum wasn't originally aligned to a political side. | |||
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"Oo well just when Sunaki the flaki thought he had inflation on the run, we are introducing food trarrifs. Looks like the Boris/Mogg leavers brigade sold the people of the UK counties another lie. Well 52.6% of the voting people in the countries. Can we be fair here for a minute? I find it offensive that anyone would suggest Jacob would have sold out the British people. He and a select handful of his friends did extremely well out of Brexit, and they are British!
Dear Boris, he simply told the people what they wanted to hear (prompted by Dominic, who is an excellent snake oil salesman) and, the simple people believed him. It is hardly his fault if 52.6% of the British electorate decided, en mass, not to do a reality check on his sales patter; is it?
Was Cummings around during the referendum? Or are you on about when Bojo became PM?
People like to forget the referendum wasn't originally aligned to a political side."Say what, Cummings around during the referendum? Cummings along with Farage were the driving force behind the UK leaving the EU. He was the director of vote leave!! He was working as an advisor the tories back in 1999, he was campaigning against the UK taking the euro. Cummings was working on leaving the UK for | |||
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"Oo well just when Sunaki the flaki thought he had inflation on the run, we are introducing food trarrifs. Looks like the Boris/Mogg leavers brigade sold the people of the UK counties another lie. Well 52.6% of the voting people in the countries. I've not seen anything about tariffs being introduced. I see the UK is finally going to start proper import checks in the same way that the EU started years ago. The UK farmers have been calling for this for years as they had to go through the checks when selling into the EU but their EU competition could send produce to the UK without such checks so had an advantage. It would not surprise me if the government mess up this latest attempt to do the checks. Apparently according to the BBC it could add 0.2% to inflation over 3 years though forecasts are often not great" Yes lots of extra red tape is coming. | |||
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"Oo well just when Sunaki the flaki thought he had inflation on the run, we are introducing food trarrifs. Looks like the Boris/Mogg leavers brigade sold the people of the UK counties another lie. Well 52.6% of the voting people in the countries. Can we be fair here for a minute? I find it offensive that anyone would suggest Jacob would have sold out the British people. He and a select handful of his friends did extremely well out of Brexit, and they are British!
Dear Boris, he simply told the people what they wanted to hear (prompted by Dominic, who is an excellent snake oil salesman) and, the simple people believed him. It is hardly his fault if 52.6% of the British electorate decided, en mass, not to do a reality check on his sales patter; is it?
Was Cummings around during the referendum? Or are you on about when Bojo became PM?
People like to forget the referendum wasn't originally aligned to a political side."It was aligned to the ultra rich. Everything else was bollocks. | |||
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"Oo well just when Sunaki the flaki thought he had inflation on the run, we are introducing food trarrifs. Looks like the Boris/Mogg leavers brigade sold the people of the UK counties another lie. Well 52.6% of the voting people in the countries. Can we be fair here for a minute? I find it offensive that anyone would suggest Jacob would have sold out the British people. He and a select handful of his friends did extremely well out of Brexit, and they are British!
Dear Boris, he simply told the people what they wanted to hear (prompted by Dominic, who is an excellent snake oil salesman) and, the simple people believed him. It is hardly his fault if 52.6% of the British electorate decided, en mass, not to do a reality check on his sales patter; is it?
Obviously you managed to withstand the snake oil sales patter.
How did you manage it?
Is it higher IQ? Are you made of sterner stuff? The tinfoil hat maybe?"There is an old addage, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is". The promises made about Brexit by leavers were unsupported by any competent or well informed observer, including the IMF and the US government. But too many still d*unk the cool aid. I suspect if I started a new political party called the Excrementum Tauri Party, and said I would cure all cancer in the first year, abolish taxation, buy a new house for anyone who could not afford one and abolish speeding fines. Then I would be elected in a Landslide. Listen to what they say, THINK and then filter it through a reality sieve. You will see that all politicians lie and you should select the one that lies least. | |||
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"Oo well just when Sunaki the flaki thought he had inflation on the run, we are introducing food trarrifs. Looks like the Boris/Mogg leavers brigade sold the people of the UK counties another lie. Well 52.6% of the voting people in the countries. Can we be fair here for a minute? I find it offensive that anyone would suggest Jacob would have sold out the British people. He and a select handful of his friends did extremely well out of Brexit, and they are British!
Dear Boris, he simply told the people what they wanted to hear (prompted by Dominic, who is an excellent snake oil salesman) and, the simple people believed him. It is hardly his fault if 52.6% of the British electorate decided, en mass, not to do a reality check on his sales patter; is it?
Obviously you managed to withstand the snake oil sales patter.
How did you manage it?
Is it higher IQ? Are you made of sterner stuff? The tinfoil hat maybe?
There is an old addage, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is". The promises made about Brexit by leavers were unsupported by any competent or well informed observer, including the IMF and the US government. But too many still d*unk the cool aid.
I suspect if I started a new political party called the Excrementum Tauri Party, and said I would cure all cancer in the first year, abolish taxation, buy a new house for anyone who could not afford one and abolish speeding fines. Then I would be elected in a Landslide.
Listen to what they say, THINK and then filter it through a reality sieve. You will see that all politicians lie and you should select the one that lies least."What could go wrong? Our politicians tell is that prices will not go up. Our politicians tell us that there will be no shortages. People here (and elsewhere) tell us that it will benefit British farming. Up until now (four years) EU goods have entered the country without checks yet a British goods have had to go through checks as per the Brexit agreement. Surely, these rules would have been better applied immediately as, after all, this is all down to the Brexit agreement. As we all know (on this forum), it can only be a benefit as everything that relates to Brexit is a benefit. | |||
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"Food tariffs are not being brought in. Checks on goods are, in the same way as the EU brought in checks on goods from the UK 3 years ago. Only the weakness of our government postponed reciprocal checks. We should have a free market, but should mirror exactly any onerous checking of goods by trading partners. If they then remove checks, we should do the same." Why would the EU (or indeed anyone) remove checks? Standards have to be maintained. | |||
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"Food tariffs are not being brought in. Checks on goods are, in the same way as the EU brought in checks on goods from the UK 3 years ago. Only the weakness of our government postponed reciprocal checks. We should have a free market, but should mirror exactly any onerous checking of goods by trading partners. If they then remove checks, we should do the same. Why would the EU (or indeed anyone) remove checks? Standards have to be maintained. " That's the free market argument. People should be allowed to package dog shit, label it "minced beef" and sell it. No controls or interference. If the consumers don't like it. They won't buy it. | |||
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"Food tariffs are not being brought in. Checks on goods are, in the same way as the EU brought in checks on goods from the UK 3 years ago. Only the weakness of our government postponed reciprocal checks. We should have a free market, but should mirror exactly any onerous checking of goods by trading partners. If they then remove checks, we should do the same. Why would the EU (or indeed anyone) remove checks? Standards have to be maintained. " When we were part of the EU there were no (or minimal) checks. The same goods now need checks. There is a difference between random checks for mis-labelled goods and full checking. Any checks should be reciprocal to avoid giving an advantage to one trading partner. | |||
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"Food tariffs are not being brought in. Checks on goods are, in the same way as the EU brought in checks on goods from the UK 3 years ago. Only the weakness of our government postponed reciprocal checks. We should have a free market, but should mirror exactly any onerous checking of goods by trading partners. If they then remove checks, we should do the same. Why would the EU (or indeed anyone) remove checks? Standards have to be maintained. " I think you may have it twisted. I read that as 'we should have the exact same checks as our partners, checks should only be removed if mutually agreed'. | |||
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"Food tariffs are not being brought in. Checks on goods are, in the same way as the EU brought in checks on goods from the UK 3 years ago. Only the weakness of our government postponed reciprocal checks. We should have a free market, but should mirror exactly any onerous checking of goods by trading partners. If they then remove checks, we should do the same. Why would the EU (or indeed anyone) remove checks? Standards have to be maintained. When we were part of the EU there were no (or minimal) checks. The same goods now need checks. There is a difference between random checks for mis-labelled goods and full checking. Any checks should be reciprocal to avoid giving an advantage to one trading partner." There were checks on goods entering the EU. We were part of the EU. Now we’re not, so we need checks. Of xourse we could have left the EU, remained in the customs union and avoided checks, but apparently that ‘wasn’t Brexit’ | |||
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"Food tariffs are not being brought in. Checks on goods are, in the same way as the EU brought in checks on goods from the UK 3 years ago. Only the weakness of our government postponed reciprocal checks. We should have a free market, but should mirror exactly any onerous checking of goods by trading partners. If they then remove checks, we should do the same. Why would the EU (or indeed anyone) remove checks? Standards have to be maintained. I think you may have it twisted. I read that as 'we should have the exact same checks as our partners, checks should only be removed if mutually agreed'." And the EU does remove checks mutually with some nations. The price for that is being in the customs union or single market. | |||
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"Food tariffs are not being brought in. Checks on goods are, in the same way as the EU brought in checks on goods from the UK 3 years ago. Only the weakness of our government postponed reciprocal checks. We should have a free market, but should mirror exactly any onerous checking of goods by trading partners. If they then remove checks, we should do the same. Why would the EU (or indeed anyone) remove checks? Standards have to be maintained. I think you may have it twisted. I read that as 'we should have the exact same checks as our partners, checks should only be removed if mutually agreed'. And the EU does remove checks mutually with some nations. The price for that is being in the customs union or single market. " I'm aware. I was explaining the comment above. | |||
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"Food tariffs are not being brought in. Checks on goods are, in the same way as the EU brought in checks on goods from the UK 3 years ago. Only the weakness of our government postponed reciprocal checks. We should have a free market, but should mirror exactly any onerous checking of goods by trading partners. If they then remove checks, we should do the same. Why would the EU (or indeed anyone) remove checks? Standards have to be maintained. I think you may have it twisted. I read that as 'we should have the exact same checks as our partners, checks should only be removed if mutually agreed'. And the EU does remove checks mutually with some nations. The price for that is being in the customs union or single market. I'm aware. I was explaining the comment above." So we are are all in agreement. Checks were not necessary until the UK left the EU (Brexit) and the UK could have implemented checks four years ago but didn't. The UK is now implementing checks as it is no longer part of the Union which is what the majority voted for hence all is as we were told and understood. Fortunately, the UK has agreements with Japan, New Zealand, Australia etc. which may not require the same amount of paperwork so win-win. | |||
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"Food tariffs are not being brought in. Checks on goods are, in the same way as the EU brought in checks on goods from the UK 3 years ago. Only the weakness of our government postponed reciprocal checks. We should have a free market, but should mirror exactly any onerous checking of goods by trading partners. If they then remove checks, we should do the same. Why would the EU (or indeed anyone) remove checks? Standards have to be maintained. I think you may have it twisted. I read that as 'we should have the exact same checks as our partners, checks should only be removed if mutually agreed'. And the EU does remove checks mutually with some nations. The price for that is being in the customs union or single market. I'm aware. I was explaining the comment above. So we are are all in agreement. Checks were not necessary until the UK left the EU (Brexit) and the UK could have implemented checks four years ago but didn't. The UK is now implementing checks as it is no longer part of the Union which is what the majority voted for hence all is as we were told and understood. Fortunately, the UK has agreements with Japan, New Zealand, Australia etc. which may not require the same amount of paperwork so win-win. " The reason we didn’t implant checks immediately is because despite having years to prepare for Brexit (including an extension and transition), we failed to put the infrastructure in place. It’s not like we put off the checks out of the goodness of our heart. In fact, we still don’t have *all* the infrastructure in place. | |||
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"Food tariffs are not being brought in. Checks on goods are, in the same way as the EU brought in checks on goods from the UK 3 years ago. Only the weakness of our government postponed reciprocal checks. We should have a free market, but should mirror exactly any onerous checking of goods by trading partners. If they then remove checks, we should do the same. Why would the EU (or indeed anyone) remove checks? Standards have to be maintained. I think you may have it twisted. I read that as 'we should have the exact same checks as our partners, checks should only be removed if mutually agreed'. And the EU does remove checks mutually with some nations. The price for that is being in the customs union or single market. I'm aware. I was explaining the comment above. So we are are all in agreement. Checks were not necessary until the UK left the EU (Brexit) and the UK could have implemented checks four years ago but didn't. The UK is now implementing checks as it is no longer part of the Union which is what the majority voted for hence all is as we were told and understood. Fortunately, the UK has agreements with Japan, New Zealand, Australia etc. which may not require the same amount of paperwork so win-win. " Paltry trade agreements by any standard. Paperwork worries should be least of what you are thinking. If Japan can't do a decent trade deal with the size of their economy then no other countries are going to have huge trade deals. US aren't currently interested. Brexit benefits still elude the UK | |||
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"Food tariffs are not being brought in. Checks on goods are, in the same way as the EU brought in checks on goods from the UK 3 years ago. Only the weakness of our government postponed reciprocal checks. We should have a free market, but should mirror exactly any onerous checking of goods by trading partners. If they then remove checks, we should do the same. Why would the EU (or indeed anyone) remove checks? Standards have to be maintained. I think you may have it twisted. I read that as 'we should have the exact same checks as our partners, checks should only be removed if mutually agreed'. And the EU does remove checks mutually with some nations. The price for that is being in the customs union or single market. I'm aware. I was explaining the comment above. So we are are all in agreement. Checks were not necessary until the UK left the EU (Brexit) and the UK could have implemented checks four years ago but didn't. The UK is now implementing checks as it is no longer part of the Union which is what the majority voted for hence all is as we were told and understood. Fortunately, the UK has agreements with Japan, New Zealand, Australia etc. which may not require the same amount of paperwork so win-win. Paltry trade agreements by any standard. Paperwork worries should be least of what you are thinking. If Japan can't do a decent trade deal with the size of their economy then no other countries are going to have huge trade deals. US aren't currently interested. Brexit benefits still elude the UK" Agreed however; people voted for this. Those who backed Brexit knew what they voted for (so we are told again and again) therefore this is the democratic decision. | |||
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