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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
52 weeks ago

nearby

Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
52 weeks ago

in Lancashire

I think it's naive and wrong to say the UN have been funding terror, it's probably more the case that funds meant for humanitarian issues were diverted..

That sadly has been the inevitable truth in all areas of aid whereby it's known that some of what gets there is pilfered by a minority but the bulk gets to those in need..

It is of course wrong what's happened and the UN and others need to up their game in relation to such..

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"I think it's naive and wrong to say the UN have been funding terror, it's probably more the case that funds meant for humanitarian issues were diverted..

That sadly has been the inevitable truth in all areas of aid whereby it's known that some of what gets there is pilfered by a minority but the bulk gets to those in need..

It is of course wrong what's happened and the UN and others need to up their game in relation to such.."

That is a fair call, but it begs the question on what checks and balances the UN were completing.

Cement and building materials meant for housing, schools etc used to build tunnels, and the fact that everything going in to Gaza goes through Hamas, I would have thought evidence that the construction had taken place would have been a prerequisite.

If they have been checking nothing or their staff have been reporting back lies, then it has been funding terrorists through neglectful organisational policies.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
52 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"I think it's naive and wrong to say the UN have been funding terror, it's probably more the case that funds meant for humanitarian issues were diverted..

That sadly has been the inevitable truth in all areas of aid whereby it's known that some of what gets there is pilfered by a minority but the bulk gets to those in need..

It is of course wrong what's happened and the UN and others need to up their game in relation to such..

That is a fair call, but it begs the question on what checks and balances the UN were completing.

Cement and building materials meant for housing, schools etc used to build tunnels, and the fact that everything going in to Gaza goes through Hamas, I would have thought evidence that the construction had taken place would have been a prerequisite.

If they have been checking nothing or their staff have been reporting back lies, then it has been funding terrorists through neglectful organisational policies. "

As I said they need to up their game..

Sacking a dozen of the lowest level won't cut it and personally when any organisation says our in house investigators will be robust etc that's corporate speak for we will chop a few down the food chain, sideways move others within and learn lessons..

It stinks of high grade bs..

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By *eroy1000Man
52 weeks ago

milton keynes


"I think it's naive and wrong to say the UN have been funding terror, it's probably more the case that funds meant for humanitarian issues were diverted..

That sadly has been the inevitable truth in all areas of aid whereby it's known that some of what gets there is pilfered by a minority but the bulk gets to those in need..

It is of course wrong what's happened and the UN and others need to up their game in relation to such..

That is a fair call, but it begs the question on what checks and balances the UN were completing.

Cement and building materials meant for housing, schools etc used to build tunnels, and the fact that everything going in to Gaza goes through Hamas, I would have thought evidence that the construction had taken place would have been a prerequisite.

If they have been checking nothing or their staff have been reporting back lies, then it has been funding terrorists through neglectful organisational policies.

As I said they need to up their game..

Sacking a dozen of the lowest level won't cut it and personally when any organisation says our in house investigators will be robust etc that's corporate speak for we will chop a few down the food chain, sideways move others within and learn lessons..

It stinks of high grade bs.."

According to the BBC those people were sacked for taking part in the 7th October massacre. I don't think the agency would have done that so fast without solid evidence but that's just my opinion. If I understand the article correctly they seem to also say that UNRWA have a union over there which is controlled by Hamas. If as has been suggested that aid money is being used by Hamas for tunnels etc then that needs looking at too. If UNRWA know about this money diversion but did not act then that's another problem. As usual the innocent will suffer.

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago

Not now funding and harbouring terror.We have been doing this for a while always assuming that lack of money or opportunity led to extremism but no extremism like racism is illogical

Concerns were raised back in 2006 about giving Hamas aid and they were ignored by those who thought enough aid would make them adopt American style democracy.I think we can safely say that it failed.

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By *estivalMan
52 weeks ago

borehamwood

Hang on a minute wasnt we told a couple of months ago it was iran who had funded the tunnel building? I really cant keep up with all the propaganda any more

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
52 weeks ago

West Wales

Who watched Little Britain? Remember the crap magician “Look into my eyes, Look into my eyes...Now you see UNHCR as bad, ergo you see the UN as bad ergo you see Israel as good & there’s no genocide. Oh & Houties in Yemen are terrorists not the standing Government controlling over 70% of a country of millions & Saudi Arabia backed by the USA hasn’t been blowing the shit out of another International state since 2015 killing 300,000 of the poorest people in the Middle East, they’ve been fighting terrorism....& 3,2,1 you’re awake”.

Or maybe you’re not or maybe you don’t want to be?

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Hang on a minute wasnt we told a couple of months ago it was iran who had funded the tunnel building? I really cant keep up with all the propaganda any more"

When the IDF first went into Gaza they quickly discovered the UN cement bags destined for new build projects was being used to reinforce the tunnel systems.

Iran is providing weaponry and funding.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
52 weeks ago

West Wales


"Who watched Little Britain? Remember the crap magician “Look into my eyes, Look into my eyes...Now you see UNHCR as bad, ergo you see the UN as bad ergo you see Israel as good & there’s no genocide. Oh & Houties in Yemen are terrorists not the standing Government controlling over 70% of a country of millions & Saudi Arabia backed by the USA hasn’t been blowing the shit out of another International state since 2015 killing 300,000 of the poorest people in the Middle East, they’ve been fighting terrorism....& 3,2,1 you’re awake”.

Or maybe you’re not or maybe you don’t want to be?

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Sorry UNRWA, dunno where the other came from.

S

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
52 weeks ago

West Wales


"Hang on a minute wasnt we told a couple of months ago it was iran who had funded the tunnel building? I really cant keep up with all the propaganda any more

When the IDF first went into Gaza they quickly discovered the UN cement bags destined for new build projects was being used to reinforce the tunnel systems.

Iran is providing weaponry and funding.

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No get it right The IDF said they did. They are one side of a war & therefore as per the other side cannot be trusted to feed impartial information.

S

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth

I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Hang on a minute wasnt we told a couple of months ago it was iran who had funded the tunnel building? I really cant keep up with all the propaganda any more

When the IDF first went into Gaza they quickly discovered the UN cement bags destined for new build projects was being used to reinforce the tunnel systems.

Iran is providing weaponry and funding.

No get it right The IDF said they did. They are one side of a war & therefore as per the other side cannot be trusted to feed impartial information.

S"

It isn't hard to find the videos that show the bags in situ, this is actually old news. I also said it was the IDF, and thank you for the isight ref, 2 parties disagreeing or providing false information.

How do feel about the actual story, donations have stopped to the UNRWA

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By *enSiskoMan
52 weeks ago

Cestus 3

It could be;

Israel,

Cost of living,

Your morgage rates

Utilities

Food prices,

Russia,

Ukraine,

Petrol prices,

Ulez,

Insurance prices

House prices

I could go on and on,

So stop voting for these clowns and give them a wet fish backhand slap instead, no ones gets into power, we will sit back and watch them run about promising the earth.

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

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Based so far on groundless accusations.

I wonder if it's Isreal accusing them..

Anyway, do the civilians who took no part in 7 October attacks deserve to starve to death?

Because the countries mentioned are culpable of assisting in ethnic cleansing. Even more shocking in the wake of the haulicsust commemoration that in 2024 it's going to be repeated.

Even more shocking that people here appear to think that's okay

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago

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52 weeks ago


"I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

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True or not.. you and the others are culpable of supporting the starvation of thousands on the backs of a few wrong doers.. IF the IDF reports re true.. and I Very much doubt it

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

True or not.. you and the others are culpable of supporting the starvation of thousands on the backs of a few wrong doers.. IF the IDF reports re true.. and I Very much doubt it"

Excuse me? I haven't said I support funding being withdrawn.

Are you one of those who believes everything from one side yet questions everything from the other?

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

"

That guy is a clown

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52 weeks ago


"I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

True or not.. you and the others are culpable of supporting the starvation of thousands on the backs of a few wrong doers.. IF the IDF reports re true.. and I Very much doubt it

Excuse me? I haven't said I support funding being withdrawn.

Are you one of those who believes everything from one side yet questions everything from the other?"

Your taking the piss out of some guy on how to donate to UNRWA so yes I would say you do.

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


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Are you one of those who believes everything from one side yet questions everything from the other?

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No, do you?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
52 weeks ago

in Lancashire

Trust no side, fucks sake shit like that led to Brexit..

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

That guy is a clown"

Clown or not.. at least he's trying to stop innocent people dying from thirst starvation, wounds and disease!

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

True or not.. you and the others are culpable of supporting the starvation of thousands on the backs of a few wrong doers.. IF the IDF reports re true.. and I Very much doubt it

Excuse me? I haven't said I support funding being withdrawn.

Are you one of those who believes everything from one side yet questions everything from the other?

Your taking the piss out of some guy on how to donate to UNRWA so yes I would say you do."

Yes I was taking the piss out of Owen Jones. The guy is a fucking idiot.

I've read a few of your previous posts on Israel/Palestine, it appears you definitely see it one sided

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

True or not.. you and the others are culpable of supporting the starvation of thousands on the backs of a few wrong doers.. IF the IDF reports re true.. and I Very much doubt it

Excuse me? I haven't said I support funding being withdrawn.

Are you one of those who believes everything from one side yet questions everything from the other?

Your taking the piss out of some guy on how to donate to UNRWA so yes I would say you do.

Yes I was taking the piss out of Owen Jones. The guy is a fucking idiot.

I've read a few of your previous posts on Israel/Palestine, it appears you definitely see it one sided "

Well that's your opinion and your entitled to it.. now then let's look at your statements..

UNRWA have their funding cut on the Dodgy evidence of the IDF, by numerous countries, while there's a critical crisis in Gaza !

You then scoff someone who's trying to reverse s disastrous decision by trying to stop people dying.

And you have the ordacity to criticise me and scoff someone with a better concience than you!

Wobble your head! Because I find you offensive and disgusting to defend your stupid arrogant immature rubbish

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

True or not.. you and the others are culpable of supporting the starvation of thousands on the backs of a few wrong doers.. IF the IDF reports re true.. and I Very much doubt it

Excuse me? I haven't said I support funding being withdrawn.

Are you one of those who believes everything from one side yet questions everything from the other?

Your taking the piss out of some guy on how to donate to UNRWA so yes I would say you do.

Yes I was taking the piss out of Owen Jones. The guy is a fucking idiot.

I've read a few of your previous posts on Israel/Palestine, it appears you definitely see it one sided

Well that's your opinion and your entitled to it.. now then let's look at your statements..

UNRWA have their funding cut on the Dodgy evidence of the IDF, by numerous countries, while there's a critical crisis in Gaza !

You then scoff someone who's trying to reverse s disastrous decision by trying to stop people dying.

And you have the ordacity to criticise me and scoff someone with a better concience than you!

Wobble your head! Because I find you offensive and disgusting to defend your stupid arrogant immature rubbish"

Owen Jones and conscience in the same sentence

Are we talking about a critical incident like the no water, no electric, no food that we've been seeing for 2 months?

Now that I know you look up to Owen Jones, I understand why you're outlook is the way it is

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
52 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

True or not.. you and the others are culpable of supporting the starvation of thousands on the backs of a few wrong doers.. IF the IDF reports re true.. and I Very much doubt it

Excuse me? I haven't said I support funding being withdrawn.

Are you one of those who believes everything from one side yet questions everything from the other?

Your taking the piss out of some guy on how to donate to UNRWA so yes I would say you do.

Yes I was taking the piss out of Owen Jones. The guy is a fucking idiot.

I've read a few of your previous posts on Israel/Palestine, it appears you definitely see it one sided

Well that's your opinion and your entitled to it.. now then let's look at your statements..

UNRWA have their funding cut on the Dodgy evidence of the IDF, by numerous countries, while there's a critical crisis in Gaza !

You then scoff someone who's trying to reverse s disastrous decision by trying to stop people dying.

And you have the ordacity to criticise me and scoff someone with a better concience than you!

Wobble your head! Because I find you offensive and disgusting to defend your stupid arrogant immature rubbish"

Mate your accusing someone of being arrogant then suggesting you have a better conscience than that person..

Different opinions is all and it needn't get to personal attacks, chill fella..

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52 weeks ago

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52 weeks ago


"I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

True or not.. you and the others are culpable of supporting the starvation of thousands on the backs of a few wrong doers.. IF the IDF reports re true.. and I Very much doubt it

Excuse me? I haven't said I support funding being withdrawn.

Are you one of those who believes everything from one side yet questions everything from the other?

Your taking the piss out of some guy on how to donate to UNRWA so yes I would say you do.

Yes I was taking the piss out of Owen Jones. The guy is a fucking idiot.

I've read a few of your previous posts on Israel/Palestine, it appears you definitely see it one sided

Well that's your opinion and your entitled to it.. now then let's look at your statements..

UNRWA have their funding cut on the Dodgy evidence of the IDF, by numerous countries, while there's a critical crisis in Gaza !

You then scoff someone who's trying to reverse s disastrous decision by trying to stop people dying.

And you have the ordacity to criticise me and scoff someone with a better concience than you!

Wobble your head! Because I find you offensive and disgusting to defend your stupid arrogant immature rubbish

Owen Jones and conscience in the same sentence

Are we talking about a critical incident like the no water, no electric, no food that we've been seeing for 2 months?

Now that I know you look up to Owen Jones, I understand why you're outlook is the way it is "

I shouldn't expect someone with your attitude to have the capacity to understand anything. You proven me right.

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

True or not.. you and the others are culpable of supporting the starvation of thousands on the backs of a few wrong doers.. IF the IDF reports re true.. and I Very much doubt it

Excuse me? I haven't said I support funding being withdrawn.

Are you one of those who believes everything from one side yet questions everything from the other?

Your taking the piss out of some guy on how to donate to UNRWA so yes I would say you do.

Yes I was taking the piss out of Owen Jones. The guy is a fucking idiot.

I've read a few of your previous posts on Israel/Palestine, it appears you definitely see it one sided

Well that's your opinion and your entitled to it.. now then let's look at your statements..

UNRWA have their funding cut on the Dodgy evidence of the IDF, by numerous countries, while there's a critical crisis in Gaza !

You then scoff someone who's trying to reverse s disastrous decision by trying to stop people dying.

And you have the ordacity to criticise me and scoff someone with a better concience than you!

Wobble your head! Because I find you offensive and disgusting to defend your stupid arrogant immature rubbish

Mate your accusing someone of being arrogant then suggesting you have a better conscience than that person..

Different opinions is all and it needn't get to personal attacks, chill fella.. "

Owen Jones has the better concience... Mate!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
52 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

True or not.. you and the others are culpable of supporting the starvation of thousands on the backs of a few wrong doers.. IF the IDF reports re true.. and I Very much doubt it

Excuse me? I haven't said I support funding being withdrawn.

Are you one of those who believes everything from one side yet questions everything from the other?

Your taking the piss out of some guy on how to donate to UNRWA so yes I would say you do.

Yes I was taking the piss out of Owen Jones. The guy is a fucking idiot.

I've read a few of your previous posts on Israel/Palestine, it appears you definitely see it one sided

Well that's your opinion and your entitled to it.. now then let's look at your statements..

UNRWA have their funding cut on the Dodgy evidence of the IDF, by numerous countries, while there's a critical crisis in Gaza !

You then scoff someone who's trying to reverse s disastrous decision by trying to stop people dying.

And you have the ordacity to criticise me and scoff someone with a better concience than you!

Wobble your head! Because I find you offensive and disgusting to defend your stupid arrogant immature rubbish

Mate your accusing someone of being arrogant then suggesting you have a better conscience than that person..

Different opinions is all and it needn't get to personal attacks, chill fella..

Owen Jones has the better concience... Mate! "

He has a different one based upon his political beliefs..

'mate' is simply a neutral term picked up from my city of birth, it infers nothing other than that..

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

True or not.. you and the others are culpable of supporting the starvation of thousands on the backs of a few wrong doers.. IF the IDF reports re true.. and I Very much doubt it

Excuse me? I haven't said I support funding being withdrawn.

Are you one of those who believes everything from one side yet questions everything from the other?

Your taking the piss out of some guy on how to donate to UNRWA so yes I would say you do.

Yes I was taking the piss out of Owen Jones. The guy is a fucking idiot.

I've read a few of your previous posts on Israel/Palestine, it appears you definitely see it one sided

Well that's your opinion and your entitled to it.. now then let's look at your statements..

UNRWA have their funding cut on the Dodgy evidence of the IDF, by numerous countries, while there's a critical crisis in Gaza !

You then scoff someone who's trying to reverse s disastrous decision by trying to stop people dying.

And you have the ordacity to criticise me and scoff someone with a better concience than you!

Wobble your head! Because I find you offensive and disgusting to defend your stupid arrogant immature rubbish

Mate your accusing someone of being arrogant then suggesting you have a better conscience than that person..

Different opinions is all and it needn't get to personal attacks, chill fella..

Owen Jones has the better concience... Mate!

He has a different one based upon his political beliefs..

'mate' is simply a neutral term picked up from my city of birth, it infers nothing other than that.."

At least he can cut through the bullshit and see starving people being Cut off by spineless kiss arse governments

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"I see good old Owen Jones is tweeting how to donate to UNRWA, as well as championing SA's moral authority

There has long been accusations about UNRWA, if these turn out to be true, it won't be a surprise.

True or not.. you and the others are culpable of supporting the starvation of thousands on the backs of a few wrong doers.. IF the IDF reports re true.. and I Very much doubt it

Excuse me? I haven't said I support funding being withdrawn.

Are you one of those who believes everything from one side yet questions everything from the other?

Your taking the piss out of some guy on how to donate to UNRWA so yes I would say you do.

Yes I was taking the piss out of Owen Jones. The guy is a fucking idiot.

I've read a few of your previous posts on Israel/Palestine, it appears you definitely see it one sided

Well that's your opinion and your entitled to it.. now then let's look at your statements..

UNRWA have their funding cut on the Dodgy evidence of the IDF, by numerous countries, while there's a critical crisis in Gaza !

You then scoff someone who's trying to reverse s disastrous decision by trying to stop people dying.

And you have the ordacity to criticise me and scoff someone with a better concience than you!

Wobble your head! Because I find you offensive and disgusting to defend your stupid arrogant immature rubbish

Owen Jones and conscience in the same sentence

Are we talking about a critical incident like the no water, no electric, no food that we've been seeing for 2 months?

Now that I know you look up to Owen Jones, I understand why you're outlook is the way it is "

Don't forget to call me a commie too.. you opinionated ploker!

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago

Has there been any proven connection between the agency and hamas? Or is it *just* they had employees involved in the attack ?

(Which is high. But also, one could see hamas seeking to get people inside so could be a degree of self selection)

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52 weeks ago


"Has there been any proven connection between the agency and hamas? Or is it *just* they had employees involved in the attack ?

(Which is high. But also, one could see hamas seeking to get people inside so could be a degree of self selection)"

So far just accusations, but even of true, does it justify condemning the palisitinians.

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52 weeks ago


"Has there been any proven connection between the agency and hamas? Or is it *just* they had employees involved in the attack ?

(Which is high. But also, one could see hamas seeking to get people inside so could be a degree of self selection)

So far just accusations, but even of true, does it justify condemning the palisitinians.

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if funds are being redirected it creates a real dilemma. And creates questions.

It 100pc were being redirected I'd guess most would be saying don't carry on funding.

Which then ctreas the question as to what level of redirection is acceptable.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


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Based so far on groundless accusations.

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Are you suggesting that UNRWA have dismissed people based on groundless accusations? The question isn't whether the accusations have legs, but rather how long those legs are


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Anyway, do the civilians who took no part in 7 October attacks deserve to starve to death?

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No. They are the real victims.

But perhaps you misunderstand the remit of UNRWA. The immediate food aid is not going to be affected by these dismissals, their own internal inquiry and the pause of funding.


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Because the countries mentioned are culpable of assisting in ethnic cleansing.

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The ICJ has not determined that and has not demanded a ceasefire. Do you trust them, or only when their findings agree with your feelings?


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Even more shocking in the wake of the haulicsust commemoration that in 2024 it's going to be repeated."

You clearly have no concept of how the Holocaust was different. In many ways. Would you make that comparison of we were not discussing Israel?

The faster Hamas is dealt with, the faster the REAL victims, the innocents of Gaza, can have a proper life. Imagine a world under Hamas. If you think that is in any way good, then you're in denial as to the real problem. Is Israel blameless? No. Have Israel killed thousands of innocent Gazans? Almost certainly. But two things need to happen for the innocents of Gaza to live peacefully. Eradication of Hamas and restoration of autonomy and self determination under a credible governing body.

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By *otinmyeyeCouple
52 weeks ago

Los lobos

So what if they did!! The people there are trapped like rats, and treated as such!!! Any funding towards gaining their freedom and independence from the colonial countries that support this bullshit! There not terrorists!!! Their fighting for their right to life!

Nobody else was going to do It for them...

Ask yourself!! What would you do if you were trapped in a room! And your abuser periodically just came to inflict pain and misery on you?

Would you do anything to escape?

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


"So what if they did!! "

UN agencies have a specific need to act in accordance with certain rules. For many obvious reasons.

Nobody would bat an eyelid if a local charity supported Hamas or even a large NGO did so. But UN employees using UN resources directly in the Oct 7 attacks strikes at the heat of what the UN must project in order to be legitimate. That is why they have been seen to act.

The only tool countries have to hold them to account is funding. Hence the (probably forthcoming) demand for an overhaul or replacement of UNRWA. Hopefully it will go from being a tool designed to keep the Palestinians in a perpetual state of underclass into something that will enable them to thrive.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"So what if they did!!

UN agencies have a specific need to act in accordance with certain rules. For many obvious reasons.

Nobody would bat an eyelid if a local charity supported Hamas or even a large NGO did so. But UN employees using UN resources directly in the Oct 7 attacks strikes at the heat of what the UN must project in order to be legitimate. That is why they have been seen to act.

The only tool countries have to hold them to account is funding. Hence the (probably forthcoming) demand for an overhaul or replacement of UNRWA. Hopefully it will go from being a tool designed to keep the Palestinians in a perpetual state of underclass into something that will enable them to thrive."

Trump ended UNRWA funding and called for an overhaul, nothing happened because others increased their funding.

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By *ostindreamsMan
52 weeks ago

London


"So what if they did!! The people there are trapped like rats, and treated as such!!! Any funding towards gaining their freedom and independence from the colonial countries that support this bullshit! There not terrorists!!! Their fighting for their right to life!

Nobody else was going to do It for them...

Ask yourself!! What would you do if you were trapped in a room! And your abuser periodically just came to inflict pain and misery on you?

Would you do anything to escape?"

Wait.... Are you saying that Hamas are not terrorists?

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


"

Trump ended UNRWA funding and called for an overhaul, nothing happened because others increased their funding. "

This is materially different, as evidenced by "others" also withdrawing funding. And this is the egregious act that finally opens the lid on UNRWA.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"

Trump ended UNRWA funding and called for an overhaul, nothing happened because others increased their funding.

This is materially different, as evidenced by "others" also withdrawing funding. And this is the egregious act that finally opens the lid on UNRWA."

I understand its different. The point I was making was he called for it over 5 years ago but no one backed him. Now there's a lot of backing.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
52 weeks ago

nearby


"

Trump ended UNRWA funding and called for an overhaul, nothing happened because others increased their funding.

This is materially different, as evidenced by "others" also withdrawing funding. And this is the egregious act that finally opens the lid on UNRWA.

I understand its different. The point I was making was he called for it over 5 years ago but no one backed him. Now there's a lot of backing. "

This is exactly what ex Deputy Administrator Bonnie Glick's said when interviewed last night on bbc, she was in trump administration at the U.S. Agency for International Development. She appeared very clear about Hamas syphoning off and receiving money from UN, used to build tunnels etc

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago

Are you suggesting that UNRWA have dismissed people based on groundless accusations? The question isn't whether the accusations have legs, but rather how long those legs are .

I base it on actual investigations and impartial conclusions. Not just because the IDF or someone else "says so'.

No. They are the real victims.

But perhaps you misunderstand the remit of UNRWA. The immediate food aid is not going to be affected by these dismissals, their own internal inquiry and the pause of funding.

Good news, if the internal enquiry and evidence is impartial also

The ICJ has not determined that and has not demanded a ceasefire. Do you trust them, or only when their findings agree with your feelings?

The ICJ has told Isreal to stop the IDF from committing war crimes and to preserve evidence if they do and to prosecute suspects. That does not mean I cudents did not happen. Netanyahu condemned the ICJs ruling, that says a lot.

You clearly have no concept of how the Holocaust was different. In many ways. Would you make that comparison of we were not discussing Israel?

Yes I would! Any country committing acts like this is equally as bad.

You don't seem to understand the meaning "happening gain"

The full line "this must never happen again" was from the UN when referring to never letting this happen again reffering to the haulocaust. But has happened again .. to some extent in Africa, Europe. And now Gaza.

The faster Hamas is dealt with etc....

If a two state solution was implemented thered be a proper governing body. But

Netanyahu has taken Isreal down the route of endless war.

A two state solution sounds far from perfect but a lot better than what's happening now. In the meantime

Netanyahu is doing his best to scupper that by increasing illegal settlements in the meantime.

You seem to think that destroying hamas the sooner the better. There was a much better way to deal with hamas, without generating so many casualties. But you like many others here and Isreal can only see the mass bludgeoning of palisitinians to achieve it. This way will generate war for years to come.

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago

Btw Ben Wallace said Isreal is going way beyond defence, and is engaged on a killing rage.

Perhaps you could explain that away?!

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By *anJenny 181Couple
52 weeks ago

Preston

Well if the BBC said it then yeah it must be true. ?

I think you really have to realize that the BBC & papers are the propaganda wing of the 1% ultra rich

They always have been and always will be so long as you keep believing it

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"Btw Ben Wallace said Isreal is going way beyond defence, and is engaged on a killing rage.

Perhaps you could explain that away?!"

Yes a thing called war

You do attack the enemy until they are defeated not drive them off until they decide to do the same thing again.

Israel is protecting it’s children from violent savages ever threatening them not merely moving the threat two months into the future

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago

Sorry.. just to add could you also explain the large demonstrations of Jews with "not in my name" and "stop the war" t shirts demonstrating against what's happening in Gaza please. Can you explain that one away please oh wise one .

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"Btw Ben Wallace said Isreal is going way beyond defence, and is engaged on a killing rage.

Perhaps you could explain that away?!

Yes a thing called war

You do attack the enemy until they are defeated not drive them off until they decide to do the same thing again.

Israel is protecting it’s children from violent savages ever threatening them not merely moving the threat two months into the future"

It's not a war.. it's a slaughtering rage .

You say war , but where's the palisitinian air force or navy?

Isreali jets bombing fleeing civilians is not a war..

More like Guernica in Spain in the 1930s!

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"Btw Ben Wallace said Isreal is going way beyond defence, and is engaged on a killing rage.

Perhaps you could explain that away?!

Yes a thing called war

You do attack the enemy until they are defeated not drive them off until they decide to do the same thing again.

Israel is protecting it’s children from violent savages ever threatening them not merely moving the threat two months into the future"

What Isreal is doing is perpetuating the slaughter.. not solving it

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
52 weeks ago

golden fields


"Btw Ben Wallace said Isreal is going way beyond defence, and is engaged on a killing rage.

Perhaps you could explain that away?!

Yes a thing called war

You do attack the enemy until they are defeated not drive them off until they decide to do the same thing again.

Israel is protecting it’s children from violent savages ever threatening them not merely moving the threat two months into the future"

That's right all those 10s of thousands of women and children being bombed by Israel are the "enemies".

That's the problem that most of us have.

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"Btw Ben Wallace said Isreal is going way beyond defence, and is engaged on a killing rage.

Perhaps you could explain that away?!

Yes a thing called war

You do attack the enemy until they are defeated not drive them off until they decide to do the same thing again.

Israel is protecting it’s children from violent savages ever threatening them not merely moving the threat two months into the future

It's not a war.. it's a slaughtering rage .

You say war , but where's the palisitinian air force or navy?

Isreali jets bombing fleeing civilians is not a war..

More like Guernica in Spain in the 1930s!"

The Republicans had that one coming.That was also a war

If someone was charging you with a sharpened stick would you ask where was their gun? .or would you take any action to defend yourself?

When the enemy is intentionally hidden with the support of the populace do you send men into that populace hoping for a fair fight?

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"Hang on a minute wasnt we told a couple of months ago it was iran who had funded the tunnel building? I really cant keep up with all the propaganda any more"

Exactly!

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"Hang on a minute wasnt we told a couple of months ago it was iran who had funded the tunnel building? I really cant keep up with all the propaganda any more

Exactly!

"

Who said this?

Actually curious as I did hear a lot of people saying this and people like me thinking it was rubbish were in the minority.Never could find the source and I doubt it was Isreal that started it.They kind of latched into it as a way to make their citizens feel more secure.

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By *eroy1000Man
52 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Has there been any proven connection between the agency and hamas? Or is it *just* they had employees involved in the attack ?

(Which is high. But also, one could see hamas seeking to get people inside so could be a degree of self selection)"

I've only seen about the employees involved in the massacre on 7th October. Having employees involved in this could be seen as some sort of link but I have not heard any claims that the agency was actually involved itself. They do seem to believe the accusations given they have sacked those alleged to be involved. Maybe it should have been a suspension while they investigate

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


"Sorry.. just to add could you also explain the large demonstrations of Jews with "not in my name" and "stop the war" t shirts demonstrating against what's happening in Gaza please. Can you explain that one away please oh wise one . "

That changes things how? If Jews were not demonstrating then you would be okay with it? What's your question?

People of all faiths, races and nationalities are both for and against a ceasefire/this war/Hamas/IDF... What's your point? One could equally trundle out the "Son of Hamas".

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago

Hamza Yousaf has said that the SNP will continue to donate to the UNRWA, pursuing the SNP’s primary policy of “looking to see what England is doing and then doing the opposite”.

The SNP has just decided to behave as if Scotland were an independent country, whether its inhabitants want to be one or not. Yousaf is deluded and thinks that he is providing global leadership from his corrupt little fiefdom.

Meanwhile another Labour MP suspended for offensive comments about Gaza. Can Starmer keep his nutjob MP’s under control until the election?

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"Hamza Yousaf has said that the SNP will continue to donate to the UNRWA, pursuing the SNP’s primary policy of “looking to see what England is doing and then doing the opposite”.

The SNP has just decided to behave as if Scotland were an independent country, whether its inhabitants want to be one or not. Yousaf is deluded and thinks that he is providing global leadership from his corrupt little fiefdom.

Meanwhile another Labour MP suspended for offensive comments about Gaza. Can Starmer keep his nutjob MP’s under control until the election? "

The labour MP was suspended for suggesting Israel are committing genocide in Gaza. Not a wild comment at all given that South Africa took Israel to the UN court with this exact allegation and it wasn’t chucked out of court.

The SG decision not to withdraw funding is correct. Too many countries are pandering to Israel because we want to be aligned with the USA. The number of civilian casualties is appalling and these people need help.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


"

The labour MP was suspended for suggesting Israel are committing genocide in Gaza. Not a wild comment at all given that South Africa took Israel to the UN court with this exact allegation and it wasn’t chucked out of court.

"

AT BEST, it's like someone with a major platform (press/show host) referring to an accused as guilty at the start of a trial. What would happen to them?


"

The SG decision not to withdraw funding is correct. Too many countries are pandering to Israel because we want to be aligned with the USA. The number of civilian casualties is appalling and these people need help."

Maybe there is a better way to help, and UNRWA is not actually helping the cause as much as they should be.

There is no question that the people of Gaza, the Palestinians generally and also those in neighbouring countries need help. Both immediate urgent help and more strategic assistance. So long as the immediate needs are met by some organisation (which is less Hamas-friendly) now is a good time to rethink what can actually benefit the Palestinians on the ground in a meaningful way. All parties need a reset (including Israel, Egypt, etc.). This might be the one chance to break the cycle.

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By *enSiskoMan
52 weeks ago

Cestus 3


"Hamza Yousaf has said that the SNP will continue to donate to the UNRWA, pursuing the SNP’s primary policy of “looking to see what England is doing and then doing the opposite”.

The SNP has just decided to behave as if Scotland were an independent country, whether its inhabitants want to be one or not. Yousaf is deluded and thinks that he is providing global leadership from his corrupt little fiefdom.

Meanwhile another Labour MP suspended for offensive comments about Gaza. Can Starmer keep his nutjob MP’s under control until the election? "

As soon as the election is called, Israel will disappear from the news till the election is over with M.P's from both sides trying not to answer questions.

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"Hamza Yousaf has said that the SNP will continue to donate to the UNRWA, pursuing the SNP’s primary policy of “looking to see what England is doing and then doing the opposite”.

The SNP has just decided to behave as if Scotland were an independent country, whether its inhabitants want to be one or not. Yousaf is deluded and thinks that he is providing global leadership from his corrupt little fiefdom.

Meanwhile another Labour MP suspended for offensive comments about Gaza. Can Starmer keep his nutjob MP’s under control until the election?

As soon as the election is called, Israel will disappear from the news till the election is over with M.P's from both sides trying not to answer questions."

They’ll have completed most of their genocide by then.

I get why Labour is shitting itself and overreacting over anyone criticising Israel because of all Labour’s antisemitism in the past. However people conflating the Israeli state with the religion of Judaism should be aware that they are separate entities and it’s legitimate to criticise one without criticising the other.

If the Israeli state is hell bent on wiping out Palestinians then that’s fucking genocide. If it happens around the same time as holocaust Memorial Day then that’s unfortunate but it is what it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago

WSJ says that intelligence reports say that 10% of UNRWA’s 12,000 staff have links to Islamist terror groups.

And 49% have close relatives with ties to terrorist organisations.

Hamas has thieved $1 million of UNRWA supplies since October 7th.

Trump stopped aid to the UNRWA in 2018, and Biden reinstated it in 2021.

Something else that Trump got right.

Biden has been funding Hamas and the Iranians.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
52 weeks ago

nearby


"WSJ says that intelligence reports say that 10% of UNRWA’s 12,000 staff have links to Islamist terror groups.

And 49% have close relatives with ties to terrorist organisations.

Hamas has thieved $1 million of UNRWA supplies since October 7th.

Trump stopped aid to the UNRWA in 2018, and Biden reinstated it in 2021.

Something else that Trump got right.

Biden has been funding Hamas and the Iranians.

"

UN donations will be in free fall if all this is correct.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
52 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"WSJ says that intelligence reports say that 10% of UNRWA’s 12,000 staff have links to Islamist terror groups.

And 49% have close relatives with ties to terrorist organisations.

Hamas has thieved $1 million of UNRWA supplies since October 7th.

Trump stopped aid to the UNRWA in 2018, and Biden reinstated it in 2021.

Something else that Trump got right.

Biden has been funding Hamas and the Iranians.

UN donations will be in free fall if all this is correct. "

Agree..

Or surely Mr Murdoch isn't playing election year politics..

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"Hamza Yousaf has said that the SNP will continue to donate to the UNRWA, pursuing the SNP’s primary policy of “looking to see what England is doing and then doing the opposite”.

The SNP has just decided to behave as if Scotland were an independent country, whether its inhabitants want to be one or not. Yousaf is deluded and thinks that he is providing global leadership from his corrupt little fiefdom.

Meanwhile another Labour MP suspended for offensive comments about Gaza. Can Starmer keep his nutjob MP’s under control until the election? "

This is what a majority of SNP voters want though and Yousaf point is to represent them.There has always been a strong Palestine lobby among the SNP so don’t know what you mean about opposite of England

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By *eroy1000Man
52 weeks ago

milton keynes


"WSJ says that intelligence reports say that 10% of UNRWA’s 12,000 staff have links to Islamist terror groups.

And 49% have close relatives with ties to terrorist organisations.

Hamas has thieved $1 million of UNRWA supplies since October 7th.

Trump stopped aid to the UNRWA in 2018, and Biden reinstated it in 2021.

Something else that Trump got right.

Biden has been funding Hamas and the Iranians.

UN donations will be in free fall if all this is correct. "

Looks like Japan and Austria have suspended donations as well today. Whatever the evidence is many seem to be coming to the same conclusion

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"WSJ says that intelligence reports say that 10% of UNRWA’s 12,000 staff have links to Islamist terror groups.

And 49% have close relatives with ties to terrorist organisations.

Hamas has thieved $1 million of UNRWA supplies since October 7th.

Trump stopped aid to the UNRWA in 2018, and Biden reinstated it in 2021.

Something else that Trump got right.

Biden has been funding Hamas and the Iranians.

"

We all have and I’m pleased the government has pulled my tax £

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
52 weeks ago

nearby


"WSJ says that intelligence reports say that 10% of UNRWA’s 12,000 staff have links to Islamist terror groups.

And 49% have close relatives with ties to terrorist organisations.

Hamas has thieved $1 million of UNRWA supplies since October 7th.

Trump stopped aid to the UNRWA in 2018, and Biden reinstated it in 2021.

Something else that Trump got right.

Biden has been funding Hamas and the Iranians.

We all have and I’m pleased the government has pulled my tax £ "

And UN executive salaries “The average UNRWA executive compensation is $237,168 a year”

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre

If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?"

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?

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By *enSiskoMan
52 weeks ago

Cestus 3

The court states that Israel must let in aid, and then suddenly a story appears that allows aid to be stopped.

Funny old world.

Well not for those starving.

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By *wosmilersCouple
52 weeks ago

Heathrowish


"The court states that Israel must let in aid, and then suddenly a story appears that allows aid to be stopped.

Funny old world.

Well not for those starving.

"

UNWRA do not have a monopoly on providing aid to Gaza

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?"

ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them"

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?"

i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
52 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?"

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says?

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?"

You don't have to believe Israel. The UNRWA clearly do. What difference does it make what nationality the staff were? UNRWA employ 13000 people in Gaza, I'd assume the majority are Palestinians.

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says?"

they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

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By *uddy laneMan
52 weeks ago

dudley


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth"

The same could be said of hamas.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
52 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth"

Who does?

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't have to believe Israel. The UNRWA clearly do. What difference does it make what nationality the staff were? UNRWA employ 13000 people in Gaza, I'd 1eq1zassume the majority are Palestinians."

yes the unrwa do beleive them,my point on the nationality is that they may have thought more of their country than their jobs,and if its true then they deserved to lose their jobs

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

The same could be said of hamas. "

yip

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

"

me lol

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

"

Thats why i asked for facts

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


"

Thats why i asked for facts"

Tried googling? If you're commenting on on a current affairs story but are asking in this forum for facts...

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By *uddy laneMan
52 weeks ago

dudley


"

Thats why i asked for facts

Tried googling? If you're commenting on on a current affairs story but are asking in this forum for facts..."

For unfiltered duck duck is the beverage of choice.

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"

Thats why i asked for facts

Tried googling? If you're commenting on on a current affairs story but are asking in this forum for facts..."

No as it seems ppl on here know everything

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
52 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

me lol"

You tell your truth, that doesn't exactly mean what your saying is true..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
52 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

Thats why i asked for facts"

But given your obvious bias is it fair to say that if the facts come from the Israeli's you wouldn't be convinced?

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

Thats why i asked for facts

But given your obvious bias is it fair to say that if the facts come from the Israeli's you wouldn't be convinced?"

Why is asking for facts biased?any facts should come from an independent source? dont you think ?

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

me lol

You tell your truth, that doesn't exactly mean what your saying is true.."

its true to me

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
52 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

Thats why i asked for facts

But given your obvious bias is it fair to say that if the facts come from the Israeli's you wouldn't be convinced?

Why is asking for facts biased?any facts should come from an independent source? dont you think ?"

Who said asking for facts is biased?

Independent sources such as certain polls paid for by a paper or organisation that leans heavily one way?

Your bias on here suggests you lean towards anyone other than Israel or the USA..

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


"

Thats why i asked for facts

Tried googling? If you're commenting on on a current affairs story but are asking in this forum for facts...

No as it seems ppl on here know everything "

From a relatively neutral source:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-intelligence-accuses-190-gaza-un-staff-hamas-islamic-jihad-roles-2024-01-29/

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

Thats why i asked for facts

But given your obvious bias is it fair to say that if the facts come from the Israeli's you wouldn't be convinced?

Why is asking for facts biased?any facts should come from an independent source? dont you think ?

Who said asking for facts is biased?

Independent sources such as certain polls paid for by a paper or organisation that leans heavily one way?

Your bias on here suggests you lean towards anyone other than Israel or the USA.."

Do you forget The UK too

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
52 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

Thats why i asked for facts

But given your obvious bias is it fair to say that if the facts come from the Israeli's you wouldn't be convinced?

Why is asking for facts biased?any facts should come from an independent source? dont you think ?

Who said asking for facts is biased?

Independent sources such as certain polls paid for by a paper or organisation that leans heavily one way?

Your bias on here suggests you lean towards anyone other than Israel or the USA..

Do you forget The UK too "

The list is long..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
52 weeks ago

in Lancashire

Mind you I certainly didn't believe our own government and the states over the dodgy dossier, I think even those who weren't overly fussed with the obvious coming military action were sceptical too..

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"Mind you I certainly didn't believe our own government and the states over the dodgy dossier, I think even those who weren't overly fussed with the obvious coming military action were sceptical too..

"

I’m not sure why anyone would think our own govt. any more or less corrupt than any other western govt. tbf.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"Mind you I certainly didn't believe our own government and the states over the dodgy dossier, I think even those who weren't overly fussed with the obvious coming military action were sceptical too..

I’m not sure why anyone would think our own govt. any more or less corrupt than any other western govt. tbf. "

Only western governments?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
52 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"Mind you I certainly didn't believe our own government and the states over the dodgy dossier, I think even those who weren't overly fussed with the obvious coming military action were sceptical too..

I’m not sure why anyone would think our own govt. any more or less corrupt than any other western govt. tbf. "

Blind loyalty..

If ones chosen party is at the helm perhaps..

Certainly apparent at times with some..

But yeah, trust no one implicitly..

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"Mind you I certainly didn't believe our own government and the states over the dodgy dossier, I think even those who weren't overly fussed with the obvious coming military action were sceptical too..

I’m not sure why anyone would think our own govt. any more or less corrupt than any other western govt. tbf.

Only western governments?"

No I think we generally would expect our govt to be less corrupt than those of third would countries, for example - but for some reason people seem to think that ours would be less corrupt than equivalents/peers as well.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"Mind you I certainly didn't believe our own government and the states over the dodgy dossier, I think even those who weren't overly fussed with the obvious coming military action were sceptical too..

I’m not sure why anyone would think our own govt. any more or less corrupt than any other western govt. tbf.

Only western governments?

No I think we generally would expect our govt to be less corrupt than those of third would countries, for example - but for some reason people seem to think that ours would be less corrupt than equivalents/peers as well. "

Maybe 'we' do assume that, I'd say it's just bias and nothing more.

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago

Oh how we used to laugh at Berlusconi.

And then elected Johnson

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By *deepdiveMan
52 weeks ago

France / Birmingham


"Oh how we used to laugh at Berlusconi.

And then elected Johnson "

Could this be seen as a Brexit benefit?

Everything else is (or if it isn't, people on here deny it being factual).

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By *eroy1000Man
52 weeks ago

milton keynes


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

Thats why i asked for facts

But given your obvious bias is it fair to say that if the facts come from the Israeli's you wouldn't be convinced?

Why is asking for facts biased?any facts should come from an independent source? dont you think ?"

If a fact is a fact then where it originates is irrelevant.

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By *verysmileMan
52 weeks ago

Canterbury


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

Thats why i asked for facts

But given your obvious bias is it fair to say that if the facts come from the Israeli's you wouldn't be convinced?

Why is asking for facts biased?any facts should come from an independent source? dont you think ?

If a fact is a fact then where it originates is irrelevant. "

Don't you mean, if it is a fact and whether it is completely true, mostly true, partially true or completely false then where it originates is irrelevant?

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

Thats why i asked for facts

But given your obvious bias is it fair to say that if the facts come from the Israeli's you wouldn't be convinced?

Why is asking for facts biased?any facts should come from an independent source? dont you think ?

If a fact is a fact then where it originates is irrelevant. "

If someone you didnt really trust told you something was a fact ,would you beleive them?

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

Thats why i asked for facts

But given your obvious bias is it fair to say that if the facts come from the Israeli's you wouldn't be convinced?

Why is asking for facts biased?any facts should come from an independent source? dont you think ?

If a fact is a fact then where it originates is irrelevant.

If someone you didnt really trust told you something was a fact ,would you beleive them?"

Or do you keep on asking the same question until you get the answer you want to hear?

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

Thats why i asked for facts

But given your obvious bias is it fair to say that if the facts come from the Israeli's you wouldn't be convinced?

Why is asking for facts biased?any facts should come from an independent source? dont you think ?

If a fact is a fact then where it originates is irrelevant.

If someone you didnt really trust told you something was a fact ,would you beleive them?

Or do you keep on asking the same question until you get the answer you want to hear?"

or an answer

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

Thats why i asked for facts

But given your obvious bias is it fair to say that if the facts come from the Israeli's you wouldn't be convinced?

Why is asking for facts biased?any facts should come from an independent source? dont you think ?

If a fact is a fact then where it originates is irrelevant.

If someone you didnt really trust told you something was a fact ,would you beleive them?

Or do you keep on asking the same question until you get the answer you want to hear?"

Maybe you can answer this?

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


"

Or do you keep on asking the same question until you get the answer you want to hear?or an answer"

Was the link provided above not sufficient enough?

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By *eroy1000Man
52 weeks ago

milton keynes


"If this is being based on evidence from the bbc and idf then im not too sure i beleive them,and does anyone know if the ppl suspended are palestinians ?

Embarrassing Do you know what countries have pulled funding and why?ive really no interest about what countries pulled funding,im asking for facts ? And not what bbc or idf said , and if the ppl suspended were palestinians?, if you think asking for facts is embarrassing thats your prob not mine,so if anyone has actuall facts feel free to share them

I highly doubt all of those countries who have suspended aid payments have listened to the BBC.

Israel provided UNRWA with evidence of involvement, UNRWA took the step to dismiss 10 employees.

Do you think they dismissed employees without credible evidence?i do not beleive what isreal say ,what im wanting to know is where those ppl suspended palestinian ?

You don't believe what Israel says in relation to this issue or is that you don't believe anything Israel says? they dont have a gd record of telling the truth

Who does?

Thats why i asked for facts

But given your obvious bias is it fair to say that if the facts come from the Israeli's you wouldn't be convinced?

Why is asking for facts biased?any facts should come from an independent source? dont you think ?

If a fact is a fact then where it originates is irrelevant.

Don't you mean, if it is a fact and whether it is completely true, mostly true, partially true or completely false then where it originates is irrelevant?"

I mean if it is a fact as first said.

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"

Or do you keep on asking the same question until you get the answer you want to hear?or an answer

Was the link provided above not sufficient enough?"

sorry ,what link

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


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Or do you keep on asking the same question until you get the answer you want to hear?or an answer

Was the link provided above not sufficient enough?"

sorry must have scrolled by it,how do i see the link ?

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
52 weeks ago

nearby

Not just the United Nations, now a West Bank hospital raided today harbouring Hamas militants.

Maybe the 1.5 million Gazans should hand over the 140 hostages and remaining Hamas fighters.

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"

Or do you keep on asking the same question until you get the answer you want to hear?or an answer

Was the link provided above not sufficient enough?"

The link you provided is a news report from rueters on an isreali intelegence dossier,which the palestinians say has been falsified,so who is telling the truth ?

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


"

Or do you keep on asking the same question until you get the answer you want to hear?or an answer

Was the link provided above not sufficient enough?

The link you provided is a news report from rueters on an isreali intelegence dossier,which the palestinians say has been falsified,so who is telling the truth ?"

It is about the most up to date mainstream news on the subject. If you want to educate yourself further, albeit with biased sources, go to the Israeli and Arab media sites. In a nutshell, the Israeli reports are damning and the Arab reports advise Israel of lying and point out that UNRWA existing is more important than there being a couple of bad apples, maybe, who are justified anyway.

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"

Or do you keep on asking the same question until you get the answer you want to hear?or an answer

Was the link provided above not sufficient enough?

The link you provided is a news report from rueters on an isreali intelegence dossier,which the palestinians say has been falsified,so who is telling the truth ?

It is about the most up to date mainstream news on the subject. If you want to educate yourself further, albeit with biased sources, go to the Israeli and Arab media sites. In a nutshell, the Israeli reports are damning and the Arab reports advise Israel of lying and point out that UNRWA existing is more important than there being a couple of bad apples, maybe, who are justified anyway."

Thats the point ive been trying to make,that they both cant be right and until we get independent sources who can verify the accusations then no one really knows the truth

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


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Thats the point ive been trying to make,that they both cant be right and until we get independent sources who can verify the accusations then no one really knows the truth"

The fact that UNRWA had acted on this suggests that there is some serious credibility to the allegations. But your view is also valid.

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"

Thats the point ive been trying to make,that they both cant be right and until we get independent sources who can verify the accusations then no one really knows the truth

The fact that UNRWA had acted on this suggests that there is some serious credibility to the allegations. But your view is also valid."

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"

Thats the point ive been trying to make,that they both cant be right and until we get independent sources who can verify the accusations then no one really knows the truth

The fact that UNRWA had acted on this suggests that there is some serious credibility to the allegations. But your view is also valid."

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


"The court states that Israel must let in aid, and then suddenly a story appears that allows aid to be stopped.

Funny old world.

Well not for those starving.

UNWRA do not have a monopoly on providing aid to Gaza"

(From the Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/jan/30/middle-east-crisis-live-updates-unrwa-donations-pause-hamas-attack-israel-gaza-war-antony-blinken-drone-attack-jordan-us-troops

12.11 EST

Canada has announced a new C$40m (£23.5m) funding to provide food, water and other humanitarian assistance after pausing funding for the UN’s relief agency in the region.

Canada has suspended “additional funding” for UNRWA following allegations by Israel that some of its staff were involved in the Hamas attacks on 7 October.

The bulk of the new funding will go to the World Food Programme (WFP), the World Health Organization (WHO), Unicef, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) and the UN office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
52 weeks ago

nearby


"The court states that Israel must let in aid, and then suddenly a story appears that allows aid to be stopped.

Funny old world.

Well not for those starving.

UNWRA do not have a monopoly on providing aid to Gaza

(From the Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/jan/30/middle-east-crisis-live-updates-unrwa-donations-pause-hamas-attack-israel-gaza-war-antony-blinken-drone-attack-jordan-us-troops

12.11 EST

Canada has announced a new C$40m (£23.5m) funding to provide food, water and other humanitarian assistance after pausing funding for the UN’s relief agency in the region.

Canada has suspended “additional funding” for UNRWA following allegations by Israel that some of its staff were involved in the Hamas attacks on 7 October.

The bulk of the new funding will go to the World Food Programme (WFP), the World Health Organization (WHO), Unicef, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) and the UN office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs."

But first Canada helping to kill them with arms exports

https://www.ploughshares.ca/reports/fanning-the-flames-the-grave-risk-of-canadas-arms-exports-to-israel#:~:text=Canada%20has%20long%20exported%20military,these%20transfers%20has%20recently%20increased.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


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But first Canada helping to kill them with arms exports

https://www.ploughshares.ca/reports/fanning-the-flames-the-grave-risk-of-canadas-arms-exports-to-israel#:~:text=Canada%20has%20long%20exported%20military,these%20transfers%20has%20recently%20increased."

No argument there.

The point was that there are many other aid organisations, and that defunding UNRWA should not mean defunding Palestinian relief. This should also address the shocking state of affairs for Palestinians in other Arab countries, where having UNRWA has kept them in a perpetual state of being second class citizens (e.g. Lebanon).

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52 weeks ago

When l saw a scene on the news years ago of large Live Aid truck driving along a ridge line with a huge gun bolted on top of it l started to get cynical about foreign aid.

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By *enSiskoMan
52 weeks ago

Cestus 3


"

But first Canada helping to kill them with arms exports

https://www.ploughshares.ca/reports/fanning-the-flames-the-grave-risk-of-canadas-arms-exports-to-israel#:~:text=Canada%20has%20long%20exported%20military,these%20transfers%20has%20recently%20increased.

No argument there.

The point was that there are many other aid organisations, and that defunding UNRWA should not mean defunding Palestinian relief. This should also address the shocking state of affairs for Palestinians in other Arab countries, where having UNRWA has kept them in a perpetual state of being second class citizens (e.g. Lebanon)."

Do people not find it strange that the countries that supply arms that kill people also grant aid support to those same people that are being bombed.

disaster capitalists in motion me thinks.

Ive never seen a genocide being broadcast on T.V before, I watched it everyday for about two weeks, but I kinda got bored I got used to seeing dead bodies and dead children I got desensitised to all the killing and the rhetoric around this genocide.

There something going on here it is not what we are being told and as usual the truth will come out.

it happens time after time throughout history but still few of us remember, how we were lied to, then the excuses, then sorry we will learn from our mistakes, all whilst shopping for a big mansion house with 24 hour security.

Couldn't make it up.

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

"

You mean the countries that are funding and arming the genocide fabricated an excuse to stop the Main Humanitarian Organisation from saving lives so that the genocide is accomplished quicker without international witnesses from the inside.

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By *verysmileMan
52 weeks ago

Canterbury


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

You mean the countries that are funding and arming the genocide fabricated an excuse to stop the Main Humanitarian Organisation from saving lives so that the genocide is accomplished quicker without international witnesses from the inside. "

According to UNWRA,99% of its staff are locally recruited Palestinians.

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

"

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


"a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

"

Next you'll be calling it a genocidal action when someone stubs their toe.

The problem with this language is that you're making a complete joke out of, and undermining the meaning of, the word "genocide".

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

"

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries"

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever.

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever. "

Talking of deflection and look over there.. Fancy simply answering the question?

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By *enSiskoMan
52 weeks ago

Cestus 3

I wonder how many are dead now in Gaza?

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever.

Talking of deflection and look over there.. Fancy simply answering the question?"

What's your answer about the genocide point I made before you tried your deflection. You do this in every thread.

Looks like you fully support the genocide against Palestinians

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


"Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island?"

Rainbow flag waver? Are you conflating LGBTQ+ with paedophilia?

Epstein and his cronies seemed pretty straight?

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever.

Talking of deflection and look over there.. Fancy simply answering the question?

What's your answer about the genocide point I made before you tried your deflection. You do this in every thread.

Looks like you fully support the genocide against Palestinians "

No, I don't support the deaths of innocent people.

You think I do because I don't appear radicalised to hate Israel or the Jews, the 2 things are always intertwined...

You still haven't answered the question

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island?

Rainbow flag waver? Are you conflating LGBTQ+ with paedophilia?

Epstein and his cronies seemed pretty straight?"

Haven't you heard that pedos have their own Rainbow flag? and the wider Rainbow lovers get offended if you call them Pedos? You should call them Minor Attracted Person instead is what they are teaching kids at school.

I believe there are few categories in the Alphabet people who consider themselves straight. And they have plenty straight supporters.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


"Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island?

Rainbow flag waver? Are you conflating LGBTQ+ with paedophilia?

Epstein and his cronies seemed pretty straight?

Haven't you heard that pedos have their own Rainbow flag? and the wider Rainbow lovers get offended if you call them Pedos? You should call them Minor Attracted Person instead is what they are teaching kids at school.

I believe there are few categories in the Alphabet people who consider themselves straight. And they have plenty straight supporters. "

Isn't tarring all gays and lesbians with the same pedo brush just as offensive as calling all Muslims terrorists?

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island?

Rainbow flag waver? Are you conflating LGBTQ+ with paedophilia?

Epstein and his cronies seemed pretty straight?

Haven't you heard that pedos have their own Rainbow flag? and the wider Rainbow lovers get offended if you call them Pedos? You should call them Minor Attracted Person instead is what they are teaching kids at school.

I believe there are few categories in the Alphabet people who consider themselves straight. And they have plenty straight supporters. "

You do say some strange things, I'm have no idea what this means, care to break it down so I can understand?

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever.

Talking of deflection and look over there.. Fancy simply answering the question?

What's your answer about the genocide point I made before you tried your deflection. You do this in every thread.

Looks like you fully support the genocide against Palestinians

No, I don't support the deaths of innocent people.

You think I do because I don't appear radicalised to hate Israel or the Jews, the 2 things are always intertwined...

You still haven't answered the question "

Israel and Jews are not synonymous words. Why do you assume I hate Jews?

Also you're doing the Piers Morgan sneaky trick. Every time the crimes of Israel are mentioned his response is "But do you condemn Hamas?" knowing fully that if they defend Hamas they will be charged by the thought policing law that Prohibits you to say anything positive about Hamas.

So if you had one grain of genuinity you wouldn't ask that question to anyone here in the UK.

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island?

Rainbow flag waver? Are you conflating LGBTQ+ with paedophilia?

Epstein and his cronies seemed pretty straight?

Haven't you heard that pedos have their own Rainbow flag? and the wider Rainbow lovers get offended if you call them Pedos? You should call them Minor Attracted Person instead is what they are teaching kids at school.

I believe there are few categories in the Alphabet people who consider themselves straight. And they have plenty straight supporters.

Isn't tarring all gays and lesbians with the same pedo brush just as offensive as calling all Muslims terrorists?"

The gay and Lesbians who are having fun and doing it for themselves without waving the rainbow flag on every one's face or bullying people with this new religion are fine with with me.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
52 weeks ago

Border of London


"

The gay and Lesbians who are having fun and doing it for themselves without waving the rainbow flag on every one's face or bullying people with this new religion are fine with with me. "

Fair enough. So you agree with Piers Morgan

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate


"

The gay and Lesbians who are having fun and doing it for themselves without waving the rainbow flag on every one's face or bullying people with this new religion are fine with with me.

Fair enough. So you agree with Piers Morgan "

He got good point in a couple subjects. But he's a Zionazi tool

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever.

Talking of deflection and look over there.. Fancy simply answering the question?

What's your answer about the genocide point I made before you tried your deflection. You do this in every thread.

Looks like you fully support the genocide against Palestinians

No, I don't support the deaths of innocent people.

You think I do because I don't appear radicalised to hate Israel or the Jews, the 2 things are always intertwined...

You still haven't answered the question

Israel and Jews are not synonymous words. Why do you assume I hate Jews?

Also you're doing the Piers Morgan sneaky trick. Every time the crimes of Israel are mentioned his response is "But do you condemn Hamas?" knowing fully that if they defend Hamas they will be charged by the thought policing law that Prohibits you to say anything positive about Hamas.

So if you had one grain of genuinity you wouldn't ask that question to anyone here in the UK."

Another strange argument!

I'm not genuine because you don't like to be challenged on your beliefs, or the legitimacy of hamas human rights?

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever.

Talking of deflection and look over there.. Fancy simply answering the question?

What's your answer about the genocide point I made before you tried your deflection. You do this in every thread.

Looks like you fully support the genocide against Palestinians

No, I don't support the deaths of innocent people.

You think I do because I don't appear radicalised to hate Israel or the Jews, the 2 things are always intertwined...

You still haven't answered the question

Israel and Jews are not synonymous words. Why do you assume I hate Jews?

Also you're doing the Piers Morgan sneaky trick. Every time the crimes of Israel are mentioned his response is "But do you condemn Hamas?" knowing fully that if they defend Hamas they will be charged by the thought policing law that Prohibits you to say anything positive about Hamas.

So if you had one grain of genuinity you wouldn't ask that question to anyone here in the UK.

Another strange argument!

I'm not genuine because you don't like to be challenged on your beliefs, or the legitimacy of hamas human rights? "

Which part of my reply you don't get?

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever.

Talking of deflection and look over there.. Fancy simply answering the question?

What's your answer about the genocide point I made before you tried your deflection. You do this in every thread.

Looks like you fully support the genocide against Palestinians

No, I don't support the deaths of innocent people.

You think I do because I don't appear radicalised to hate Israel or the Jews, the 2 things are always intertwined...

You still haven't answered the question

Israel and Jews are not synonymous words. Why do you assume I hate Jews?

Also you're doing the Piers Morgan sneaky trick. Every time the crimes of Israel are mentioned his response is "But do you condemn Hamas?" knowing fully that if they defend Hamas they will be charged by the thought policing law that Prohibits you to say anything positive about Hamas.

So if you had one grain of genuinity you wouldn't ask that question to anyone here in the UK.

Another strange argument!

I'm not genuine because you don't like to be challenged on your beliefs, or the legitimacy of hamas human rights?

Which part of my reply you don't get? "

If I was being 100% honest with you, around 82.8%

For the sake of this conversation, the following is the reply that baffled me more than the others:

"Haven't you heard that pedos have their own Rainbow flag? and the wider Rainbow lovers get offended if you call them Pedos? You should call them Minor Attracted Person instead is what they are teaching kids at school.

I believe there are few categories in the Alphabet people who consider themselves straight. And they have plenty straight supporters"

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate

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By *enSiskoMan
52 weeks ago

Cestus 3

Could the targeting of children, so the ability to reproduce is limited in the future to further the Gazzazans race, and the jailing of children again cutting the ability to reproduce in the future be considered genocide?

In other words if someone killed all the children in my family and we are over the age to reproduce, then it would be the end of my family line, this is happening in Gazza now.

So I wonder if that can be classed as genocide?

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever.

Talking of deflection and look over there.. Fancy simply answering the question?

What's your answer about the genocide point I made before you tried your deflection. You do this in every thread.

Looks like you fully support the genocide against Palestinians

No, I don't support the deaths of innocent people.

You think I do because I don't appear radicalised to hate Israel or the Jews, the 2 things are always intertwined...

You still haven't answered the question

Israel and Jews are not synonymous words. Why do you assume I hate Jews?

Also you're doing the Piers Morgan sneaky trick. Every time the crimes of Israel are mentioned his response is "But do you condemn Hamas?" knowing fully that if they defend Hamas they will be charged by the thought policing law that Prohibits you to say anything positive about Hamas.

So if you had one grain of genuinity you wouldn't ask that question to anyone here in the UK.

Another strange argument!

I'm not genuine because you don't like to be challenged on your beliefs, or the legitimacy of hamas human rights?

Which part of my reply you don't get?

If I was being 100% honest with you, around 82.8%

For the sake of this conversation, the following is the reply that baffled me more than the others:

"Haven't you heard that pedos have their own Rainbow flag? and the wider Rainbow lovers get offended if you call them Pedos? You should call them Minor Attracted Person instead is what they are teaching kids at school.

I believe there are few categories in the Alphabet people who consider themselves straight. And they have plenty straight supporters""

What part of that is baffling you? You need to make a point or ask a specific question. Not just copy paste my text

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By *enSiskoMan
52 weeks ago

Cestus 3

19 thousand orphans so far.

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever.

Talking of deflection and look over there.. Fancy simply answering the question?

What's your answer about the genocide point I made before you tried your deflection. You do this in every thread.

Looks like you fully support the genocide against Palestinians

No, I don't support the deaths of innocent people.

You think I do because I don't appear radicalised to hate Israel or the Jews, the 2 things are always intertwined...

You still haven't answered the question

Israel and Jews are not synonymous words. Why do you assume I hate Jews?

Also you're doing the Piers Morgan sneaky trick. Every time the crimes of Israel are mentioned his response is "But do you condemn Hamas?" knowing fully that if they defend Hamas they will be charged by the thought policing law that Prohibits you to say anything positive about Hamas.

So if you had one grain of genuinity you wouldn't ask that question to anyone here in the UK.

Another strange argument!

I'm not genuine because you don't like to be challenged on your beliefs, or the legitimacy of hamas human rights?

Which part of my reply you don't get?

If I was being 100% honest with you, around 82.8%

For the sake of this conversation, the following is the reply that baffled me more than the others:

"Haven't you heard that pedos have their own Rainbow flag? and the wider Rainbow lovers get offended if you call them Pedos? You should call them Minor Attracted Person instead is what they are teaching kids at school.

I believe there are few categories in the Alphabet people who consider themselves straight. And they have plenty straight supporters"

What part of that is baffling you? You need to make a point or ask a specific question. Not just copy paste my text "

The whole thing, I'm confused by the whole thing

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By *oversfunCouple
52 weeks ago

city centre


"19 thousand orphans so far."
aye but the murderers have the right to defend their country

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever.

Talking of deflection and look over there.. Fancy simply answering the question?

What's your answer about the genocide point I made before you tried your deflection. You do this in every thread.

Looks like you fully support the genocide against Palestinians

No, I don't support the deaths of innocent people.

You think I do because I don't appear radicalised to hate Israel or the Jews, the 2 things are always intertwined...

You still haven't answered the question

Israel and Jews are not synonymous words. Why do you assume I hate Jews?

Also you're doing the Piers Morgan sneaky trick. Every time the crimes of Israel are mentioned his response is "But do you condemn Hamas?" knowing fully that if they defend Hamas they will be charged by the thought policing law that Prohibits you to say anything positive about Hamas.

So if you had one grain of genuinity you wouldn't ask that question to anyone here in the UK.

Another strange argument!

I'm not genuine because you don't like to be challenged on your beliefs, or the legitimacy of hamas human rights?

Which part of my reply you don't get?

If I was being 100% honest with you, around 82.8%

For the sake of this conversation, the following is the reply that baffled me more than the others:

"Haven't you heard that pedos have their own Rainbow flag? and the wider Rainbow lovers get offended if you call them Pedos? You should call them Minor Attracted Person instead is what they are teaching kids at school.

I believe there are few categories in the Alphabet people who consider themselves straight. And they have plenty straight supporters"

What part of that is baffling you? You need to make a point or ask a specific question. Not just copy paste my text

The whole thing, I'm confused by the whole thing"

Far-right politics you support have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority..

I've read your posts..

Normal morals, ethics and their values doesn't sit well with far-right sanctimonious clap trap.

To you 1,900 Israeli civilians are worth a lot more than the 270,000 palisitinian civilians

You and your far right wing pals waffle and pull out obscure rubbish in a pathetic attempt to justify sustaining the massacre in Gaza.. being apologists for Isreal .. when the fundamental truth is "two wrongs don't make a right"..

You have the ordacity to accuse me of regurgitating terrorist rhetoric.. I'll ignore that statement as it's far to ridiculous to comment on.

You and others call this Owen guy an idiot or something like that along with other far righters.. I don't know of him, but at least he's tried to stop what you and others scoff about.. Which is making this genocide worse!

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever.

Talking of deflection and look over there.. Fancy simply answering the question?

What's your answer about the genocide point I made before you tried your deflection. You do this in every thread.

Looks like you fully support the genocide against Palestinians

No, I don't support the deaths of innocent people.

You think I do because I don't appear radicalised to hate Israel or the Jews, the 2 things are always intertwined...

You still haven't answered the question

Israel and Jews are not synonymous words. Why do you assume I hate Jews?

Also you're doing the Piers Morgan sneaky trick. Every time the crimes of Israel are mentioned his response is "But do you condemn Hamas?" knowing fully that if they defend Hamas they will be charged by the thought policing law that Prohibits you to say anything positive about Hamas.

So if you had one grain of genuinity you wouldn't ask that question to anyone here in the UK.

Another strange argument!

I'm not genuine because you don't like to be challenged on your beliefs, or the legitimacy of hamas human rights?

Which part of my reply you don't get?

If I was being 100% honest with you, around 82.8%

For the sake of this conversation, the following is the reply that baffled me more than the others:

"Haven't you heard that pedos have their own Rainbow flag? and the wider Rainbow lovers get offended if you call them Pedos? You should call them Minor Attracted Person instead is what they are teaching kids at school.

I believe there are few categories in the Alphabet people who consider themselves straight. And they have plenty straight supporters"

What part of that is baffling you? You need to make a point or ask a specific question. Not just copy paste my text

The whole thing, I'm confused by the whole thing

Far-right politics you support have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority..

I've read your posts..

Normal morals, ethics and their values doesn't sit well with far-right sanctimonious clap trap.

To you 1,900 Israeli civilians are worth a lot more than the 270,000 palisitinian civilians

You and your far right wing pals waffle and pull out obscure rubbish in a pathetic attempt to justify sustaining the massacre in Gaza.. being apologists for Isreal .. when the fundamental truth is "two wrongs don't make a right"..

You have the ordacity to accuse me of regurgitating terrorist rhetoric.. I'll ignore that statement as it's far to ridiculous to comment on.

You and others call this Owen guy an idiot or something like that along with other far righters.. I don't know of him, but at least he's tried to stop what you and others scoff about.. Which is making this genocide worse!

"

Cool story

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever.

Talking of deflection and look over there.. Fancy simply answering the question?

What's your answer about the genocide point I made before you tried your deflection. You do this in every thread.

Looks like you fully support the genocide against Palestinians

No, I don't support the deaths of innocent people.

You think I do because I don't appear radicalised to hate Israel or the Jews, the 2 things are always intertwined...

You still haven't answered the question

Israel and Jews are not synonymous words. Why do you assume I hate Jews?

Also you're doing the Piers Morgan sneaky trick. Every time the crimes of Israel are mentioned his response is "But do you condemn Hamas?" knowing fully that if they defend Hamas they will be charged by the thought policing law that Prohibits you to say anything positive about Hamas.

So if you had one grain of genuinity you wouldn't ask that question to anyone here in the UK.

Another strange argument!

I'm not genuine because you don't like to be challenged on your beliefs, or the legitimacy of hamas human rights?

Which part of my reply you don't get?

If I was being 100% honest with you, around 82.8%

For the sake of this conversation, the following is the reply that baffled me more than the others:

"Haven't you heard that pedos have their own Rainbow flag? and the wider Rainbow lovers get offended if you call them Pedos? You should call them Minor Attracted Person instead is what they are teaching kids at school.

I believe there are few categories in the Alphabet people who consider themselves straight. And they have plenty straight supporters"

What part of that is baffling you? You need to make a point or ask a specific question. Not just copy paste my text

The whole thing, I'm confused by the whole thing

Far-right politics you support have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority..

I've read your posts..

Normal morals, ethics and their values doesn't sit well with far-right sanctimonious clap trap.

To you 1,900 Israeli civilians are worth a lot more than the 270,000 palisitinian civilians

You and your far right wing pals waffle and pull out obscure rubbish in a pathetic attempt to justify sustaining the massacre in Gaza.. being apologists for Isreal .. when the fundamental truth is "two wrongs don't make a right"..

You have the ordacity to accuse me of regurgitating terrorist rhetoric.. I'll ignore that statement as it's far to ridiculous to comment on.

You and others call this Owen guy an idiot or something like that along with other far righters.. I don't know of him, but at least he's tried to stop what you and others scoff about.. Which is making this genocide worse!

Cool story

"

I’ve just remembered, it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever.

Talking of deflection and look over there.. Fancy simply answering the question?

What's your answer about the genocide point I made before you tried your deflection. You do this in every thread.

Looks like you fully support the genocide against Palestinians

No, I don't support the deaths of innocent people.

You think I do because I don't appear radicalised to hate Israel or the Jews, the 2 things are always intertwined...

You still haven't answered the question

Israel and Jews are not synonymous words. Why do you assume I hate Jews?

Also you're doing the Piers Morgan sneaky trick. Every time the crimes of Israel are mentioned his response is "But do you condemn Hamas?" knowing fully that if they defend Hamas they will be charged by the thought policing law that Prohibits you to say anything positive about Hamas.

So if you had one grain of genuinity you wouldn't ask that question to anyone here in the UK.

Another strange argument!

I'm not genuine because you don't like to be challenged on your beliefs, or the legitimacy of hamas human rights?

Which part of my reply you don't get?

If I was being 100% honest with you, around 82.8%

For the sake of this conversation, the following is the reply that baffled me more than the others:

"Haven't you heard that pedos have their own Rainbow flag? and the wider Rainbow lovers get offended if you call them Pedos? You should call them Minor Attracted Person instead is what they are teaching kids at school.

I believe there are few categories in the Alphabet people who consider themselves straight. And they have plenty straight supporters"

What part of that is baffling you? You need to make a point or ask a specific question. Not just copy paste my text

The whole thing, I'm confused by the whole thing

Far-right politics you support have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority..

I've read your posts..

Normal morals, ethics and their values doesn't sit well with far-right sanctimonious clap trap.

To you 1,900 Israeli civilians are worth a lot more than the 270,000 palisitinian civilians

You and your far right wing pals waffle and pull out obscure rubbish in a pathetic attempt to justify sustaining the massacre in Gaza.. being apologists for Isreal .. when the fundamental truth is "two wrongs don't make a right"..

You have the ordacity to accuse me of regurgitating terrorist rhetoric.. I'll ignore that statement as it's far to ridiculous to comment on.

You and others call this Owen guy an idiot or something like that along with other far righters.. I don't know of him, but at least he's tried to stop what you and others scoff about.. Which is making this genocide worse!

Cool story

"

It's an accurate one though.

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Finland joined the United States, Australia and Canada in pausing funding after UNRWA, the UN’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, revealed an investigation had been launched into 12 members of staff who allegedly took part in the 7 October attack led by Hamas that killed 1,140 people

BBC interview last night with Bonnie Click was very enlightening. They claim UN funds were used to build the hundreds of miles of tunnels in Gaza

Just after the ICJ ordered Israel to enable aid into Gaza to avoid Genocide, the Hypocrite Gang of Humanitarian Champions who elected themselves as the World's police of human rights, women's rights... respond with a genocidal action of

defunding and discrediting the main Humanity Organization on the ground.

The west's true barbaric colonial face is exposed for everyone to see.

I'm really surprised you live in this country with such, shall we call them, strong opinions?

Self elected humanitarian champions, World police of human and women's rights.

Do you believe Hamas has a better rights record than the western countries

Are you saying that you'd become a dictator supporter if you moved to egypt? Or a Pedo Rainbow flag waver if you moved to Epstein Island? Sounds like someone with nothing to stand on if your moral code depends on your GPS position at the time.

I see what you did there with the Hamas deflection. Let's look the other way and start pointing finers somewhere else while we're committing the most heinous crime ever.

Talking of deflection and look over there.. Fancy simply answering the question?

What's your answer about the genocide point I made before you tried your deflection. You do this in every thread.

Looks like you fully support the genocide against Palestinians

No, I don't support the deaths of innocent people.

You think I do because I don't appear radicalised to hate Israel or the Jews, the 2 things are always intertwined...

You still haven't answered the question

Israel and Jews are not synonymous words. Why do you assume I hate Jews?

Also you're doing the Piers Morgan sneaky trick. Every time the crimes of Israel are mentioned his response is "But do you condemn Hamas?" knowing fully that if they defend Hamas they will be charged by the thought policing law that Prohibits you to say anything positive about Hamas.

So if you had one grain of genuinity you wouldn't ask that question to anyone here in the UK.

Another strange argument!

I'm not genuine because you don't like to be challenged on your beliefs, or the legitimacy of hamas human rights?

Which part of my reply you don't get?

If I was being 100% honest with you, around 82.8%

For the sake of this conversation, the following is the reply that baffled me more than the others:

"Haven't you heard that pedos have their own Rainbow flag? and the wider Rainbow lovers get offended if you call them Pedos? You should call them Minor Attracted Person instead is what they are teaching kids at school.

I believe there are few categories in the Alphabet people who consider themselves straight. And they have plenty straight supporters"

What part of that is baffling you? You need to make a point or ask a specific question. Not just copy paste my text

The whole thing, I'm confused by the whole thing

Far-right politics you support have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority..

I've read your posts..

Normal morals, ethics and their values doesn't sit well with far-right sanctimonious clap trap.

To you 1,900 Israeli civilians are worth a lot more than the 270,000 palisitinian civilians

You and your far right wing pals waffle and pull out obscure rubbish in a pathetic attempt to justify sustaining the massacre in Gaza.. being apologists for Isreal .. when the fundamental truth is "two wrongs don't make a right"..

You have the ordacity to accuse me of regurgitating terrorist rhetoric.. I'll ignore that statement as it's far to ridiculous to comment on.

You and others call this Owen guy an idiot or something like that along with other far righters.. I don't know of him, but at least he's tried to stop what you and others scoff about.. Which is making this genocide worse!

Cool story

It's an accurate one though."

Is it really, when you sober up you will realise I have not supported the mass killings of anyone, you will find one such comment in this thread.

Have a good nights sleep

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago

Yeah whatever

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth

Ooo I'm far right. A new badge to pin to my lapel

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By *andE2000Man
52 weeks ago

Bathgate


"19 thousand orphans so far.aye but the murderers have the right to defend their country"

It's not their country. They were brought in at the backs of British warships and tanks.

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


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I’ve just remembered, it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy…

…when you sober up you…

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What are you suggesting here, dude? If you’re gonna attack someone for being d*unk, shouldn’t you have some evidence? (Not that it’s any business of yours if someone has a drink)

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth


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I’ve just remembered, it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy…

…when you sober up you…

What are you suggesting here, dude? If you’re gonna attack someone for being d*unk, shouldn’t you have some evidence? (Not that it’s any business of yours if someone has a drink)

"

What do you think the other poster was alluding to when he suggested 'it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy'?

As always, seeing it just one way

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


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I’ve just remembered, it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy…

…when you sober up you…

What are you suggesting here, dude? If you’re gonna attack someone for being d*unk, shouldn’t you have some evidence? (Not that it’s any business of yours if someone has a drink)

What do you think the other poster was alluding to when he suggested 'it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy'?

As always, seeing it just one way "

Both those quotes were from the same poster though?

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


"

I’ve just remembered, it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy…

…when you sober up you…

What are you suggesting here, dude? If you’re gonna attack someone for being d*unk, shouldn’t you have some evidence? (Not that it’s any business of yours if someone has a drink)

What do you think the other poster was alluding to when he suggested 'it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy'?

As always, seeing it just one way "

Do not put words into other people's mouths!!

Your expressing something based on your warped opinion!

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth


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I’ve just remembered, it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy…

…when you sober up you…

What are you suggesting here, dude? If you’re gonna attack someone for being d*unk, shouldn’t you have some evidence? (Not that it’s any business of yours if someone has a drink)

What do you think the other poster was alluding to when he suggested 'it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy'?

As always, seeing it just one way

Both those quotes were from the same poster though?"

You're right, I thought one was in response to another. My bad.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
52 weeks ago

Bournemouth


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I’ve just remembered, it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy…

…when you sober up you…

What are you suggesting here, dude? If you’re gonna attack someone for being d*unk, shouldn’t you have some evidence? (Not that it’s any business of yours if someone has a drink)

What do you think the other poster was alluding to when he suggested 'it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy'?

As always, seeing it just one way

Do not put words into other people's mouths!!

Your expressing something based on your warped opinion!"

Chill the fuck out mate and stop getting personal with me.

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By (user no longer on site)
52 weeks ago


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I’ve just remembered, it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy…

…when you sober up you…

What are you suggesting here, dude? If you’re gonna attack someone for being d*unk, shouldn’t you have some evidence? (Not that it’s any business of yours if someone has a drink)

What do you think the other poster was alluding to when he suggested 'it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy'?

As always, seeing it just one way

Both those quotes were from the same poster though?

You're right, I thought one was in response to another. My bad. "

Nay worries

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By *otMe66Man
52 weeks ago

Terra Firma


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I’ve just remembered, it has been early evening Fridays in the past that you start to get a bit lairy…

…when you sober up you…

What are you suggesting here, dude? If you’re gonna attack someone for being d*unk, shouldn’t you have some evidence? (Not that it’s any business of yours if someone has a drink)

"

What I was suggesting is I have seen the uncalled for rant that he sent my way at the same time on a Friday before.

His post was inaccurate, accusing and personal, but feel free to ignore that and focus on the person who was a recipient of that rant.

Well done comrade

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