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By *mateur100 OP   Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

....could have lasting effect say researchers according to the BBC.

And, with the parents assistance, these children could get off their backsides and actually do something, they could've been fed healthy meals etc? FFS when will it cease being everyone else's fault?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For a lot of these types probably never.There will always be some excuse

Make there be consequences for their actions and they will moan but they will do the right thing when they realise that it won’t work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"....could have lasting effect say researchers according to the BBC.

And, with the parents assistance, these children could get off their backsides and actually do something, they could've been fed healthy meals etc? FFS when will it cease being everyone else's fault? "

Perhaps Labour will save the day with supervised eating and exercise on top of supervised tooth brushing.

Millions more jobs!

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby

Not just the pandemic it seems, and not just children, and uk up there on malnutrition.

https://www.rcpch.ac.uk/news-events/news/rcpch-responds-latest-childhood-obesity-figures-england-202223#:~:text=The%20prevalence%20of%20obesity%20in,higher%20than%20pre%2Dpandemic%20levels.

https://foodfoundation.org.uk/sites/default/files/2021-10/1-Briefing-Malnutrition_vF2.pdf

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

I stopped at a motorway services last week to collect some basics from a mini-supermarket. Apart from a handful of sad vegetables and a few loaves of bread, the vast majority of items were sugar based, confectionary, biscuits, cakes, breakfast bars, drinks etc. Our kids are consuming way to much sugar.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"....could have lasting effect say researchers according to the BBC.

And, with the parents assistance, these children could get off their backsides and actually do something, they could've been fed healthy meals etc? FFS when will it cease being everyone else's fault?

Perhaps Labour will save the day with supervised eating and exercise on top of supervised tooth brushing.

Millions more jobs!"

I think they may need to bring in supervised forum posting

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"I stopped at a motorway services last week to collect some basics from a mini-supermarket. Apart from a handful of sad vegetables and a few loaves of bread, the vast majority of items were sugar based, confectionary, biscuits, cakes, breakfast bars, drinks etc. Our kids are consuming way to much sugar."

Mine aren’t. Never drink fizzy drinks. Eat a good diet. Play lots of sport (at high level). Parents lead by example. Home environment from birth embeds behaviours. Fat parents have fat kids. Inactive parents have inactive kids. There will be outliers but that is almost a universal truth.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"I stopped at a motorway services last week to collect some basics from a mini-supermarket. Apart from a handful of sad vegetables and a few loaves of bread, the vast majority of items were sugar based, confectionary, biscuits, cakes, breakfast bars, drinks etc. Our kids are consuming way to much sugar.

Mine aren’t. Never drink fizzy drinks. Eat a good diet. Play lots of sport (at high level). Parents lead by example. Home environment from birth embeds behaviours. Fat parents have fat kids. Inactive parents have inactive kids. There will be outliers but that is almost a universal truth."
neither is my youngest shes never liked fizzy drinks has a mc ds once in a blue moon, eats well and is very active, some of her friends on the other hand are nearly twice the size she is, but then there parents let them spend all day staring at a screen and dont get em out and about doing things

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"I stopped at a motorway services last week to collect some basics from a mini-supermarket. Apart from a handful of sad vegetables and a few loaves of bread, the vast majority of items were sugar based, confectionary, biscuits, cakes, breakfast bars, drinks etc. Our kids are consuming way to much sugar.

Mine aren’t. Never drink fizzy drinks. Eat a good diet. Play lots of sport (at high level). Parents lead by example. Home environment from birth embeds behaviours. Fat parents have fat kids. Inactive parents have inactive kids. There will be outliers but that is almost a universal truth.neither is my youngest shes never liked fizzy drinks has a mc ds once in a blue moon, eats well and is very active, some of her friends on the other hand are nearly twice the size she is, but then there parents let them spend all day staring at a screen and dont get em out and about doing things"

Pretty much soon after birth we have got out every day for walks. Not just fresh air and exercise but wanting the kid tired out so they sleep! Got them involved in sport (with added benefit of another circle of friends not from school). Screen time has always been limited. Screens are never at the dinner table and always off an hour before bed. No exceptions. They eat pretty much what we eat and no separate “kid friendly meal”.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"I stopped at a motorway services last week to collect some basics from a mini-supermarket. Apart from a handful of sad vegetables and a few loaves of bread, the vast majority of items were sugar based, confectionary, biscuits, cakes, breakfast bars, drinks etc. Our kids are consuming way to much sugar.

Mine aren’t. Never drink fizzy drinks. Eat a good diet. Play lots of sport (at high level). Parents lead by example. Home environment from birth embeds behaviours. Fat parents have fat kids. Inactive parents have inactive kids. There will be outliers but that is almost a universal truth.neither is my youngest shes never liked fizzy drinks has a mc ds once in a blue moon, eats well and is very active, some of her friends on the other hand are nearly twice the size she is, but then there parents let them spend all day staring at a screen and dont get em out and about doing things

Pretty much soon after birth we have got out every day for walks. Not just fresh air and exercise but wanting the kid tired out so they sleep! Got them involved in sport (with added benefit of another circle of friends not from school). Screen time has always been limited. Screens are never at the dinner table and always off an hour before bed. No exceptions. They eat pretty much what we eat and no separate “kid friendly meal”."
yep same here as far as dinners go, my exes point of view is im not cooking two different dinners so eat it or go hungry, and luckily when shes at mine skate park just over the road that she is in all day or a 5 k ride around the country park

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"....could have lasting effect say researchers according to the BBC.

And, with the parents assistance, these children could get off their backsides and actually do something, they could've been fed healthy meals etc? FFS when will it cease being everyone else's fault?

Perhaps Labour will save the day with supervised eating and exercise on top of supervised tooth brushing.

Millions more jobs!"
the sad issue is that if parents don't parent well (for whatever reasons) it's the kids that suffer. It we have good habits from our parents we should be thankful we had those parents. But for the grace of god.

Is it so bad if a government seek to break this cycle ?

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By *exy_HornyCouple
over a year ago

Leigh

The question is really how have we got to the stage where parents are so bad that state intervention is being considered?

The general public are, generally, stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The question is really how have we got to the stage where parents are so bad that state intervention is being considered?

The general public are, generally, stupid."
imo part may be the push to get everyone in work... I don't envy parents who work.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"The question is really how have we got to the stage where parents are so bad that state intervention is being considered?

The general public are, generally, stupid."

I think the answer to that is complex and multi-layered and there is not one single thing you could point to.

There have always been good and bad parents.

Food habits (and availability) have changed.

Entertainment options have changed.

Society is more fearful of kids being outside.

Sedentary types of work have increased.

More families where both parents work.

More single parent families.

Less community cohesion (ie support networks for parents who work etc).

Poorer state education (with things like PE and Home Economics suffering more than other subjects).

Change in societal morals and the increase in the “me first” mind set and sense of entitlement.

Etc etc etc

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

A great deal of judgement here.

Availability of cheap nutrition dense foods is low. Availability of cheap calorie dense foods is high.

Just a wee point for you, diet during pregnancy matters.

Obesity stats: about 26% of adults and 24% of children are obese. Almost two-thirds of adults are overweight or obese in the UK. It's multifactorial.

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By *oversfunCouple
over a year ago

city centre


"For a lot of these types probably never.There will always be some excuse

Make there be consequences for their actions and they will moan but they will do the right thing when they realise that it won’t work."

What do you mean by these types?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For a lot of these types probably never.There will always be some excuse

Make there be consequences for their actions and they will moan but they will do the right thing when they realise that it won’t work.

What do you mean by these types?"

Those who expect someone else to do something when they can do it themselves for a minor inconvenience

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By *oversfunCouple
over a year ago

city centre


"....could have lasting effect say researchers according to the BBC.

And, with the parents assistance, these children could get off their backsides and actually do something, they could've been fed healthy meals etc? FFS when will it cease being everyone else's fault? "
the main word here is could, not are or will

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By *oversfunCouple
over a year ago

city centre


"For a lot of these types probably never.There will always be some excuse

Make there be consequences for their actions and they will moan but they will do the right thing when they realise that it won’t work.

What do you mean by these types?

Those who expect someone else to do something when they can do it themselves for a minor inconvenience "

So why not say people?or does saying these types make you feel above people?

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By *exy_HornyCouple
over a year ago

Leigh


"Availability of cheap nutrition dense foods is low."

This is not true. Many cheap fresh vegetables and tinned items such as beans, lentils or chickpeas are nutritionally dense. Use these as a base and add small amounts of meat, fish or dairy to make filling, healthy and nutritious meals cheaply.


"Availability of cheap calorie dense foods is high."

Agreed, but if people choose these then it reinforces my point regarding stupidity.

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough


"Availability of cheap nutrition dense foods is low.

This is not true. Many cheap fresh vegetables and tinned items such as beans, lentils or chickpeas are nutritionally dense. Use these as a base and add small amounts of meat, fish or dairy to make filling, healthy and nutritious meals cheaply.

Availability of cheap calorie dense foods is high.

Agreed, but if people choose these then it reinforces my point regarding stupidity."

I recall you saying this before. My children have flown the nest so I cannot try out your suggestion. I do know pulses are an acquired taste and I've hidden kidney beans in a Bolognese to no success .

Anyway, what you class as cheap (and available - some people don't have the luxury of being able to drive to supermarkets that have special offers, or able to access home delivery), others may not.

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

There's ongoing research about foetal nutrition, baby nutrition, genetic influences, ancestral fat/starvation cells and so on.

An evolving embryo has cells each programmed to become a part of the body. So it's not a great leap to theorise that each adipose cell is programmed to "fill" to a certain level.

Guess what, it's not theoretical. We each have a maximum load our adipose and visceral tissues load up to. And when these reach maximum capacity, our organs start to fill with triglycerides.

Bottom line you can be slim on the outside and fat on the inside. So, although we must reduce obesity levels in this country, slim people who eat crap had better watch out. You're a ticking time bomb.

EVERYBODY needs to learn to eat healthily and not just think - it's ok I have a fast metabolism.

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