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"Haley has no chance of becoming Republican nominee. Her own Party doesn’t like her. On the other hand she has lots of big corporate and Wall Street donors who wish it were still 2004 so there is still plenty of money to spend. And she may get some more corporate work out of it all the once the race is over so she still has a fair degree of self interest in continuing a bit longer. If Trump goes to jail and the Democrats imprison their main opponent because they can’t beat him in an election, I think we have to assume that the US has regrettably become no better than North Korea." Or he actually broke the law? Always that option Rog! | |||
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" If Trump goes to jail and the Democrats imprison their main opponent because they can’t beat him in an election, I think we have to assume that the US has regrettably become no better than North Korea." Didn’t the democrats already prove they can beat Trump in an election? | |||
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" If Trump goes to jail and the Democrats imprison their main opponent because they can’t beat him in an election, I think we have to assume that the US has regrettably become no better than North Korea. Didn’t the democrats already prove they can beat Trump in an election? " I guess there’s no point having an election in the UK this year either as we already know the Tories will win as per 2019. | |||
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"Haley has no chance of becoming Republican nominee. Her own Party doesn’t like her. On the other hand she has lots of big corporate and Wall Street donors who wish it were still 2004 so there is still plenty of money to spend. And she may get some more corporate work out of it all the once the race is over so she still has a fair degree of self interest in continuing a bit longer. If Trump goes to jail and the Democrats imprison their main opponent because they can’t beat him in an election, I think we have to assume that the US has regrettably become no better than North Korea. Or he actually broke the law? Always that option Rog!" Odd how all the “lawfare” is being initiated by Democrat prosecutors. Frankly if Trump goes to jail the US will be an international laughing stock. The US will never again be able to barge around the world lecturing everyone about “democracy”. | |||
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" If Trump goes to jail and the Democrats imprison their main opponent because they can’t beat him in an election, I think we have to assume that the US has regrettably become no better than North Korea. Didn’t the democrats already prove they can beat Trump in an election? I guess there’s no point having an election in the UK this year either as we already know the Tories will win as per 2019." But you said the democrats know they can’t beat Trump, right? That’s what you said? What happened in 2020? | |||
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"Haley has no chance of becoming Republican nominee. Her own Party doesn’t like her. On the other hand she has lots of big corporate and Wall Street donors who wish it were still 2004 so there is still plenty of money to spend. And she may get some more corporate work out of it all the once the race is over so she still has a fair degree of self interest in continuing a bit longer. If Trump goes to jail and the Democrats imprison their main opponent because they can’t beat him in an election, I think we have to assume that the US has regrettably become no better than North Korea. Or he actually broke the law? Always that option Rog! Odd how all the “lawfare” is being initiated by Democrat prosecutors. Frankly if Trump goes to jail the US will be an international laughing stock. The US will never again be able to barge around the world lecturing everyone about “democracy”. " Well that works both ways. Actually three ways: 1. Trump is guilty as fuck and someone is doing something about it. 2. The Democrats are using that as an opportunity guilty or not. 3. The Republicans do not believe in law and are not pursuing it. | |||
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"I don't know what to make of trump, because he as a lot of enemies who want him out the way. People dirtying his name. But it might be true. " In fairness no one needs to dirty his name. He does a bang up job on his own via twitter or wherever he posts nowadays | |||
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"I don't know what to make of trump, because he as a lot of enemies who want him out the way. People dirtying his name. But it might be true. " Before anyone even dreamed about him being President, there were all manner of things about him that were questionable at best. Dodgy as fuck! | |||
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"Only Haley to go... For Fabio, if Haley drops out (not that I think she will) and Trump is banned. What will that mean for the Republican Party? Can someone reinstate themselves?" The answer to that is…. Very good question 
Seriously the answer is it depends on the timescale at which trump is barred…
If it is before the republican national convention… which is in July I think off the top of my head, then yes… they can nominate who they want (a non brokered convention would be an absolute dogfight! Would be fascinating to watch, to see if they can rally behind one person)
Up until the convention he is the “presumptive nominee “
If it’s after the convention….. I think that is where a problem would arise… but I expect both of the federal cases to be over by then… | |||
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"Haley has no chance of becoming Republican nominee. Her own Party doesn’t like her. On the other hand she has lots of big corporate and Wall Street donors who wish it were still 2004 so there is still plenty of money to spend. And she may get some more corporate work out of it all the once the race is over so she still has a fair degree of self interest in continuing a bit longer. If Trump goes to jail and the Democrats imprison their main opponent because they can’t beat him in an election, I think we have to assume that the US has regrettably become no better than North Korea. Or he actually broke the law? Always that option Rog! Odd how all the “lawfare” is being initiated by Democrat prosecutors. Frankly if Trump goes to jail the US will be an international laughing stock. The US will never again be able to barge around the world lecturing everyone about “democracy”. " I think the lawfare was actually prompted by the whole “trying to fiddle the election “ and the “find me 11780 votes so I can win Georgia “ thing roger…. Irony in Georgia was that he was begging a republican Secretary of State, a republican attorney general, and a republican governor to do his fiddling for him ROG!…. Not pinko commie democrat in site! Funny how amnesia seems to work rog???  | |||
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"Only Haley to go... For Fabio, if Haley drops out (not that I think she will) and Trump is banned. What will that mean for the Republican Party? Can someone reinstate themselves? The answer to that is…. Very good question
Seriously the answer is it depends on the timescale at which trump is barred…
If it is before the republican national convention… which is in July I think off the top of my head, then yes… they can nominate who they want (a non brokered convention would be an absolute dogfight! Would be fascinating to watch, to see if they can rally behind one person)
Up until the convention he is the “presumptive nominee “
If it’s after the convention….. I think that is where a problem would arise… but I expect both of the federal cases to be over by then… "When you say they can nominate who they want, who would be nominating? They're obviously not gonna caucus states again. Sounds mental that Trump could win the nomination by votes and then they just install, say Haley. That surely wouldn't go down well with members who don't get a say. | |||
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"Only Haley to go... For Fabio, if Haley drops out (not that I think she will) and Trump is banned. What will that mean for the Republican Party? Can someone reinstate themselves? The answer to that is…. Very good question
Seriously the answer is it depends on the timescale at which trump is barred…
If it is before the republican national convention… which is in July I think off the top of my head, then yes… they can nominate who they want (a non brokered convention would be an absolute dogfight! Would be fascinating to watch, to see if they can rally behind one person)
Up until the convention he is the “presumptive nominee “
If it’s after the convention….. I think that is where a problem would arise… but I expect both of the federal cases to be over by then…
When you say they can nominate who they want, who would be nominating?
They're obviously not gonna caucus states again.
Sounds mental that Trump could win the nomination by votes and then they just install, say Haley. That surely wouldn't go down well with members who don't get a say. "And further, what happens if they ban him after the convention. That's the question I really wanna understand? Or maybe it's never happened before so a precedent would be set? | |||
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"Only Haley to go... For Fabio, if Haley drops out (not that I think she will) and Trump is banned. What will that mean for the Republican Party? Can someone reinstate themselves? The answer to that is…. Very good question
Seriously the answer is it depends on the timescale at which trump is barred…
If it is before the republican national convention… which is in July I think off the top of my head, then yes… they can nominate who they want (a non brokered convention would be an absolute dogfight! Would be fascinating to watch, to see if they can rally behind one person)
Up until the convention he is the “presumptive nominee “
If it’s after the convention….. I think that is where a problem would arise… but I expect both of the federal cases to be over by then… "Is to early for me to get my MAGA Deux hat? | |||
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"Only Haley to go... For Fabio, if Haley drops out (not that I think she will) and Trump is banned. What will that mean for the Republican Party? Can someone reinstate themselves? The answer to that is…. Very good question
Seriously the answer is it depends on the timescale at which trump is barred…
If it is before the republican national convention… which is in July I think off the top of my head, then yes… they can nominate who they want (a non brokered convention would be an absolute dogfight! Would be fascinating to watch, to see if they can rally behind one person)
Up until the convention he is the “presumptive nominee “
If it’s after the convention….. I think that is where a problem would arise… but I expect both of the federal cases to be over by then…
Is to early for me to get my
MAGA Deux hat?"Apparently the MAGA DUNCE hats are doing a roaring trade  | |||
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"Only Haley to go... For Fabio, if Haley drops out (not that I think she will) and Trump is banned. What will that mean for the Republican Party? Can someone reinstate themselves? The answer to that is…. Very good question
Seriously the answer is it depends on the timescale at which trump is barred…
If it is before the republican national convention… which is in July I think off the top of my head, then yes… they can nominate who they want (a non brokered convention would be an absolute dogfight! Would be fascinating to watch, to see if they can rally behind one person)
Up until the convention he is the “presumptive nominee “
If it’s after the convention….. I think that is where a problem would arise… but I expect both of the federal cases to be over by then…
Is to early for me to get my
MAGA Deux hat?
Apparently the MAGA DUNCE hats are doing a roaring trade "Only with those types that aren't voting for Trump | |||
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" When you say they can nominate who they want, who would be nominating?" The best way to describe the process is to look at the republicans and democrats process separately… In each state, there are a certain amount of “delegates” given.. the amount of delegates a state has is roughly in line with the size of that state’s population.. so California and Texas has the largest number The way the democrats do it is the amount of delegates in proportional to the total vote of that state.. so if you got 40% of the votes in that state, you get 40% of that states delegates… The way the republicans do it is whoever gets the most votes in that state gets all the delegates.. you lose by 1, tough! Winner takes all! "They're obviously not gonna caucus states again. " Basically delegates are made up by specific members of that state’s party, locally active members right the way up to governor … the accepted rule of thumb is they vote representing what happened in that state’s primary/caucus… but they don’t have to! If for example no one candidate reached a majority, or in trump’s case, he was barred.. all of these delegates are not then duty bound to anyone and can do in theory as they please "Sounds mental that Trump could win the nomination by votes and then they just install, say Haley. That surely wouldn't go down well with members who don't get a say. " Again in theory they could, the other thing could if the Republican were to ditch him he could try and run 3rd party and blow up the Republican Party in the process | |||
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" And further, what happens if they ban him after the convention. That's the question I really wanna understand? Or maybe it's never happened before so a precedent would be set?" The only reason why I am not going to answer this is that if there is any issue about him getting on a state’s general election ballot, especially after a January 6th conviction, it’s going to end up at the Supreme Court and they are going to need to make a decision one way or another…. | |||
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" And further, what happens if they ban him after the convention. That's the question I really wanna understand? Or maybe it's never happened before so a precedent would be set? The only reason why I am not going to answer this is that if there is any issue about him getting on a state’s general election ballot, especially after a January 6th conviction, it’s going to end up at the Supreme Court and they are going to need to make a decision one way or another…. " Cheers. It'll be interesting to watch it play out. | |||
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"USA is a two party state, run by rich people. Not a real democracy, the poor don't count because their real god is money. The UK is a two party state, where people are forced to vote for the lesser of two evils, with no real alternative because of the first past the post garbage The rich elite call the shots. " Most countries are basically 2 party states.. or smaller parties that would govern as 2 group coalitions…. Anyway… New Hampshire primary is today… and desantis dropping out probably helps trump rather than Haley If trump wins, the contest is basically over… If trump loses , watch for him to call Haley a RINO, and bitterly complain that he only lost because democrats and independents are allowed to vote in the primary | |||
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"USA is a two party state, run by rich people. Not a real democracy, the poor don't count because their real god is money. The UK is a two party state, where people are forced to vote for the lesser of two evils, with no real alternative because of the first past the post garbage The rich elite call the shots. Most countries are basically 2 party states.. or smaller parties that would govern as 2 group coalitions…. Anyway… New Hampshire primary is today… and desantis dropping out probably helps trump rather than Haley If trump wins, the contest is basically over… If trump loses , watch for him to call Haley a RINO, and bitterly complain that he only lost because democrats and independents are allowed to vote in the primary " I read that Biden won't be in the Dems NH primary today because of a dispute. Can you add further context, haven't really looked into it. | |||
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"USA is a two party state, run by rich people. Not a real democracy, the poor don't count because their real god is money. The UK is a two party state, where people are forced to vote for the lesser of two evils, with no real alternative because of the first past the post garbage The rich elite call the shots. Most countries are basically 2 party states.. or smaller parties that would govern as 2 group coalitions…. Anyway… New Hampshire primary is today… and desantis dropping out probably helps trump rather than Haley If trump wins, the contest is basically over… If trump loses , watch for him to call Haley a RINO, and bitterly complain that he only lost because democrats and independents are allowed to vote in the primary I read that Biden won't be in the Dems NH primary today because of a dispute. Can you add further context, haven't really looked into it. " The answer as with all things is… sort of Because there was no real democratic challenger to Biden the New Hampshire state Democratic Party decided basically not to hold a primary . So his name isn’t on the ballot However there is one democrat who is officially running against him, rep dean Phillips of Minnesota ( not on the basis of any fundamental difference in policy, but on the fact of Biden being too old for a 2nd term) but has little to no support So his name is on the ballot because in New Hampshire what would happen is that you would be allowed to vote in either primary… and they also allow people to “write in” a candidate | |||
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