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"South Africa accuses Isreal of genocide. On e piece of evidence was being Benjamin Netanyahu..speaking Hebrew to his troops, comparing Hamas to the now extinct Amlekites from the book of Samuel. The passage says "smite the Amalekites after they launched a vicious surprise attack on the Jewish people. It's a commandment to completely destroy all of Amlekites... talking about killing each and every one of them.. including children, babies , destroying all property and all the animals even. How can anyone say this ethnic cleansing is any else? I was shocked to read this and is a condemnation of isreali actions. I for one comdemn hamas but two wrong don't make a right. I also aplaud south Africa for not being two faced hypocrites like the USA and also the UK for facilitating Isreal in this." USA strike fleet there to supervise the massacre of Palestinian women and children. Uk special op’s reportedly there to but not to hand out emergency supplies to the million plus refugees | |||
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"South Africa accuses Isreal of genocide. On e piece of evidence was being Benjamin Netanyahu..speaking Hebrew to his troops, comparing Hamas to the now extinct Amlekites from the book of Samuel. The passage says "smite the Amalekites after they launched a vicious surprise attack on the Jewish people. It's a commandment to completely destroy all of Amlekites... talking about killing each and every one of them.. including children, babies , destroying all property and all the animals even. How can anyone say this ethnic cleansing is any else? I was shocked to read this and is a condemnation of isreali actions. I for one comdemn hamas but two wrong don't make a right. I also aplaud south Africa for not being two faced hypocrites like the USA and also the UK for facilitating Isreal in this. USA strike fleet there to supervise the massacre of Palestinian women and children. Uk special op’s reportedly there to but not to hand out emergency supplies to the million plus refugees" Someone has to make sure Israel don't slow down the attack. The arms industry profits must be protected whatever the cost to human life. | |||
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"Firstly, let me make it clear, I totally regret the loss of innocent lives in Gaza, and wish it would stop, but this is a war and in wars innocents always get killed as collateral damage. It is also in Hamas's interest for innocent Palestinians to be put in harms way because it brings international pressure on Israel to stop the fighting. This is so Hamas, who are currently losing, can regroup, rearm and continue attacking the Israelis as they have done for over 3 decades. Netanyahu is the leader of Israel. It is standard practice for leaders in wars to use emotionally charged rhetoric that motivates their people to fight. Likening Hamas to Amalekites, who also sought the anhilation of all the Jews, is just such rhetoric. Israel see the annihilation of Hamas (Not the Palestinians), who will not negotiate in good faith a diplomatic solution, as the only way peace can be returned to the area. What other solution can there be that does not lead to more decades of Hamas attacking Israel? The annihilation of all Jews? " What happens then? If Hamas are gone they will be replaced with someone else. All Israel are doing now is creating the next wave of young angry men who've lost everything and are ready to commit more atrocities. | |||
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"Did he just compare Hamas or did he compare all Palestinians? If it's the former, I don't think that's genocide." The OP says he compared Hamas. | |||
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"Did he just compare Hamas or did he compare all Palestinians? If it's the former, I don't think that's genocide. The OP says he compared Hamas." In which case, it can't be genocide. Is retaliation against terrorists who killed your people called genocide these days? | |||
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" What other solution can there be that does not lead to more decades of Hamas attacking Israel? The annihilation of all Jews? " Hamas (in the past put forward a proposition that if Isreal left the occupied areas then a deal could be made to end the violence. An opportunity lost. Another solution would be to enforce a two state solution, whether Isreal likes it or not. Remember that land was cleared using violence to create Isreal. Some form of addressing this imbalance is needed. Otherwise Isreal, palistine etc. Will condemn themselves to ever lasting war. I know bugger all of what's said here will influence those in power. Just my thoughts | |||
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"Did he just compare Hamas or did he compare all Palestinians? If it's the former, I don't think that's genocide. The OP says he compared Hamas. In which case, it can't be genocide. Is retaliation against terrorists who killed your people called genocide these days?" Apparently Israel should stand aside and say 'no worries Bro, we'll let you have that one' | |||
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" Israel see the annihilation of Hamas (Not the Palestinians), who will not negotiate in good faith a diplomatic solution, as the only way peace can be returned to the area. " The numbers tell a different story Maybe 1000 Hamas killed 23,357 latest reported dead Palestinians and another 59,410 injured. Add the UN and aid workers killed by USA bombs dropped by Israel. Homes of a million people destroyed. | |||
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" Israel see the annihilation of Hamas (Not the Palestinians), who will not negotiate in good faith a diplomatic solution, as the only way peace can be returned to the area. The numbers tell a different story Maybe 1000 Hamas killed 23,357 latest reported dead Palestinians and another 59,410 injured. Add the UN and aid workers killed by USA bombs dropped by Israel. Homes of a million people destroyed. " There have been many innocent deaths...but 'Maybe' in relation to Hamas deaths is not a firm figure. Where did you get that from? Vagueness only adds to the narrative of spin and counter spin. | |||
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"Firstly, let me make it clear, I totally regret the loss of innocent lives in Gaza, and wish it would stop, but this is a war and in wars innocents always get killed as collateral damage. It is also in Hamas's interest for innocent Palestinians to be put in harms way because it brings international pressure on Israel to stop the fighting. This is so Hamas, who are currently losing, can regroup, rearm and continue attacking the Israelis as they have done for over 3 decades. Netanyahu is the leader of Israel. It is standard practice for leaders in wars to use emotionally charged rhetoric that motivates their people to fight. Likening Hamas to Amalekites, who also sought the anhilation of all the Jews, is just such rhetoric. Israel see the annihilation of Hamas (Not the Palestinians), who will not negotiate in good faith a diplomatic solution, as the only way peace can be returned to the area. What other solution can there be that does not lead to more decades of Hamas attacking Israel? The annihilation of all Jews? What happens then? If Hamas are gone they will be replaced with someone else. All Israel are doing now is creating the next wave of young angry men who've lost everything and are ready to commit more atrocities. " With Hamas gone the UN could step in and organised some proper elections for the first time in 17 years. Enable a proper government that is not run by a man in Qatar. After this perhaps the Palestinian people can agree to live in peace with the Israelis. It is worth a try even though hatred between the peoples may last for years. Least we forget, we in the UK used to hate the Germans and the Japanese. | |||
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"Firstly, let me make it clear, I totally regret the loss of innocent lives in Gaza, and wish it would stop, but this is a war and in wars innocents always get killed as collateral damage. It is also in Hamas's interest for innocent Palestinians to be put in harms way because it brings international pressure on Israel to stop the fighting. This is so Hamas, who are currently losing, can regroup, rearm and continue attacking the Israelis as they have done for over 3 decades. Netanyahu is the leader of Israel. It is standard practice for leaders in wars to use emotionally charged rhetoric that motivates their people to fight. Likening Hamas to Amalekites, who also sought the anhilation of all the Jews, is just such rhetoric. Israel see the annihilation of Hamas (Not the Palestinians), who will not negotiate in good faith a diplomatic solution, as the only way peace can be returned to the area. What other solution can there be that does not lead to more decades of Hamas attacking Israel? The annihilation of all Jews? What happens then? If Hamas are gone they will be replaced with someone else. All Israel are doing now is creating the next wave of young angry men who've lost everything and are ready to commit more atrocities. With Hamas gone the UN could step in and organised some proper elections for the first time in 17 years. Enable a proper government that is not run by a man in Qatar. After this perhaps the Palestinian people can agree to live in peace with the Israelis. It is worth a try even though hatred between the peoples may last for years. Least we forget, we in the UK used to hate the Germans and the Japanese. " Is this likely to stop Israel from taking Palestinian land and attacking them? That was going on way before Hamas. | |||
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"Firstly, let me make it clear, I totally regret the loss of innocent lives in Gaza, and wish it would stop, but this is a war and in wars innocents always get killed as collateral damage. It is also in Hamas's interest for innocent Palestinians to be put in harms way because it brings international pressure on Israel to stop the fighting. This is so Hamas, who are currently losing, can regroup, rearm and continue attacking the Israelis as they have done for over 3 decades. Netanyahu is the leader of Israel. It is standard practice for leaders in wars to use emotionally charged rhetoric that motivates their people to fight. Likening Hamas to Amalekites, who also sought the anhilation of all the Jews, is just such rhetoric. Israel see the annihilation of Hamas (Not the Palestinians), who will not negotiate in good faith a diplomatic solution, as the only way peace can be returned to the area. What other solution can there be that does not lead to more decades of Hamas attacking Israel? The annihilation of all Jews? What happens then? If Hamas are gone they will be replaced with someone else. All Israel are doing now is creating the next wave of young angry men who've lost everything and are ready to commit more atrocities. With Hamas gone the UN could step in and organised some proper elections for the first time in 17 years. Enable a proper government that is not run by a man in Qatar. After this perhaps the Palestinian people can agree to live in peace with the Israelis. It is worth a try even though hatred between the peoples may last for years. Least we forget, we in the UK used to hate the Germans and the Japanese. Is this likely to stop Israel from taking Palestinian land and attacking them? That was going on way before Hamas." Exactly! Plus this act by Isreal will solve anything! They have to pull out of occupied territories. FFS UK and USA stole land to create Isreal in the first place and they still want more land! | |||
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"Firstly, let me make it clear, I totally regret the loss of innocent lives in Gaza, and wish it would stop, but this is a war and in wars innocents always get killed as collateral damage. It is also in Hamas's interest for innocent Palestinians to be put in harms way because it brings international pressure on Israel to stop the fighting. This is so Hamas, who are currently losing, can regroup, rearm and continue attacking the Israelis as they have done for over 3 decades. Netanyahu is the leader of Israel. It is standard practice for leaders in wars to use emotionally charged rhetoric that motivates their people to fight. Likening Hamas to Amalekites, who also sought the anhilation of all the Jews, is just such rhetoric. Israel see the annihilation of Hamas (Not the Palestinians), who will not negotiate in good faith a diplomatic solution, as the only way peace can be returned to the area. What other solution can there be that does not lead to more decades of Hamas attacking Israel? The annihilation of all Jews? What happens then? If Hamas are gone they will be replaced with someone else. All Israel are doing now is creating the next wave of young angry men who've lost everything and are ready to commit more atrocities. With Hamas gone the UN could step in and organised some proper elections for the first time in 17 years. Enable a proper government that is not run by a man in Qatar. After this perhaps the Palestinian people can agree to live in peace with the Israelis. It is worth a try even though hatred between the peoples may last for years. Least we forget, we in the UK used to hate the Germans and the Japanese. Is this likely to stop Israel from taking Palestinian land and attacking them? That was going on way before Hamas. Exactly! Plus this act by Isreal will solve anything! They have to pull out of occupied territories. FFS UK and USA stole land to create Isreal in the first place and they still want more land! " Wasn't it Turkish for centuries? | |||
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"Not smart enough to understand it all But let’s be honest, Hamas fucked around. Now they’re finding out The question is, if Hamas surrender today, would the fighting stop? " Yes but the oppression will continue by Isreal plus what they've done to the palisitinians already, guarantees a new generation of fighters | |||
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"Not smart enough to understand it all But let’s be honest, Hamas fucked around. Now they’re finding out The question is, if Hamas surrender today, would the fighting stop? Yes but the oppression will continue by Isreal plus what they've done to the palisitinians already, guarantees a new generation of fighters " If yes then surely the pressure should be on Hamas to surrender | |||
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"Not smart enough to understand it all But let’s be honest, Hamas fucked around. Now they’re finding out The question is, if Hamas surrender today, would the fighting stop? " Another thing. Hatred of Isreal has been generated for many decades. Isreal control everything that goes into Gaza, and just allow enough food in to barely sustain the palisitinians. It's a giant prison camp. Controlling who enters who leaves, how much electric they get etc.. Plus, is it reasonable to flatten homes in winter while the survivors sleep outdoors . I've seen the images of a flattened Gaza, there's fuck all left of infrastructure, water sewage pipes, electric supply roads buildings all flattened. | |||
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"Not smart enough to understand it all But let’s be honest, Hamas fucked around. Now they’re finding out The question is, if Hamas surrender today, would the fighting stop? Yes but the oppression will continue by Isreal plus what they've done to the palisitinians already, guarantees a new generation of fighters If yes then surely the pressure should be on Hamas to surrender " They won't. The poor bastards are the civilians caught up in this mess. The only way for it to end is for Isreal to realise that the same crap they've done for 50 years doesn't work. | |||
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"Not smart enough to understand it all But let’s be honest, Hamas fucked around. Now they’re finding out The question is, if Hamas surrender today, would the fighting stop? Yes but the oppression will continue by Isreal plus what they've done to the palisitinians already, guarantees a new generation of fighters If yes then surely the pressure should be on Hamas to surrender They won't. The poor bastards are the civilians caught up in this mess. The only way for it to end is for Isreal to realise that the same crap they've done for 50 years doesn't work." So we’re placing all the pressure on a country to surrender to a terrorists group? Fair enough, then what? | |||
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"Benjamin Netanyahu did say hamas, but, in the text he was reading did refer to the innialation of babies women children the old ... Everything. Problem is hamas are part of palisitinians, and due to Isreal committing war crimes on day 1.(shutting off water, electric gas etc. A war crime on itself) was just the start of a long list of war crimes " Netanyahu compared Hamas with Amlekites because Amlekites are considered enemies of jews. Given that Hamas have been open with their ambitions of destroying Jews, that comparison makes sense. I don't know Hamas being part of Palestine makes any difference. They are a terrorist organisation. Calling this comparison genocidal is a bit of an overreaction. | |||
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"Not smart enough to understand it all But let’s be honest, Hamas fucked around. Now they’re finding out The question is, if Hamas surrender today, would the fighting stop? Yes but the oppression will continue by Isreal plus what they've done to the palisitinians already, guarantees a new generation of fighters If yes then surely the pressure should be on Hamas to surrender They won't. The poor bastards are the civilians caught up in this mess. The only way for it to end is for Isreal to realise that the same crap they've done for 50 years doesn't work. So we’re placing all the pressure on a country to surrender to a terrorists group? Fair enough, then what? " Not that simple. Hamas put forward a suggestion years ago that if Isreal left the land invaded by Isreal then a cease fire and eventually a truce. But Isreal turned that down. A truce is the only way forward. Then what? ; Isreal and hamas firm a longer lasting truce . possibly UN peacekeeping and a two state solution. The only alternative I see is perpetual war .. | |||
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"What Isreal wants is palistinian territory, (illegally) make themselves look the victim and have their own way regardless in the eyes of the world whatever crimes they commit. Hamas are evil yes, but hamas only exist because of isreali oppression " What is the basis for your claim that the territory should be Palestinian (or "palistinian" as per your quote) or not Israeli (or "isreali" as per your quote) ? Is it a historic claim and what right to territory would you extend to Israel and why? I'm not justifying violence by either side. | |||
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"Firstly, let me make it clear, I totally regret the loss of innocent lives in Gaza, and wish it would stop, but this is a war and in wars innocents always get killed as collateral damage. It is also in Hamas's interest for innocent Palestinians to be put in harms way because it brings international pressure on Israel to stop the fighting. This is so Hamas, who are currently losing, can regroup, rearm and continue attacking the Israelis as they have done for over 3 decades. Netanyahu is the leader of Israel. It is standard practice for leaders in wars to use emotionally charged rhetoric that motivates their people to fight. Likening Hamas to Amalekites, who also sought the anhilation of all the Jews, is just such rhetoric. Israel see the annihilation of Hamas (Not the Palestinians), who will not negotiate in good faith a diplomatic solution, as the only way peace can be returned to the area. What other solution can there be that does not lead to more decades of Hamas attacking Israel? The annihilation of all Jews? What happens then? If Hamas are gone they will be replaced with someone else. All Israel are doing now is creating the next wave of young angry men who've lost everything and are ready to commit more atrocities. With Hamas gone the UN could step in and organised some proper elections for the first time in 17 years. Enable a proper government that is not run by a man in Qatar. After this perhaps the Palestinian people can agree to live in peace with the Israelis. It is worth a try even though hatred between the peoples may last for years. Least we forget, we in the UK used to hate the Germans and the Japanese. Is this likely to stop Israel from taking Palestinian land and attacking them? That was going on way before Hamas." As far as I can recall the Jews were given an area of what was Palestine to be used as a Jewish homeland by a UN mandate in 1947. They were told to take such steps as were necessary to put that plan into effect. This led to a fight with the Palestinians culminating in May 1948 with the declaration of the State of Israel. In May 1949 the UN recognised Israel. Then in 1967 a coalition of Egypt, Syria and Jordan attacked Israel who responded eventually taking, by force, the Sinai Peninsula, the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and the Golan Heights. So, with the exception of the initial UN sanctioned land grab, and in response to a war on them by 3 neighbouring countries, Israel has not taken any other land by force; although there have been many skirmishes. They do however continue to controversially place jewish settlements in the West Bank in an area they won in the 1967 6 days war. 20 years after that brief conflict Hamas was formed out of the Muslim Brotherhood. | |||
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"Israel founded by Abraham from Ur in Iran. Israelites and Palestinians occupied the same territory for decades. Then 1048 Britain handed Palestine told too find a solution and made 1 state taking Palestinian land but Making no viable Palestinian state. Then Israel used violence to expand the borders given by Britain and occupied Palestinian territory and fought wars, created violence on Palestinians who responded as expected. It has been going on a long long time and neither USA no UK have gotten serious about sorting it and ordinary Palestinian and Israeli occupants of the whole Palestinian area that includes Israel suffer. Abraham is also the father of the Palestinians.." A slight rewrite of history there. Israel increased its territory only after being attacked hostile acts in 1967 and 1973. Of course, it has used violence to maintain those borders when it sees a threat. It has also used violence against what it sees as terrorists which include Hamas and Hisbollah. Those organisations are recognised as terrorist organisations by many. Do you recognise them as such? Sadly, acts of violence perpetrated by one side will always be met with counter acts of violence. But please do not assume that Israel used violence unilaterally to take territory as a singular act when it was a reaction to being attacked by surrounding Arab states. | |||
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"Did he just compare Hamas or did he compare all Palestinians? If it's the former, I don't think that's genocide. The OP says he compared Hamas. In which case, it can't be genocide. Is retaliation against terrorists who killed your people called genocide these days?" Have a listen to what top legal expert Francesca Albanese had to say about what rights a state that is an occupying power has in terms of self defence when she spoke at the Australian press club. She explains where international law stands on 'revenge' you are talking about. In her role as UN special rapporteur for the occupied Palestinian territories she reported her assessment of their human rights prior to October 7th: "The expert found that Israel, despite its obligations as an Occupying Power, deprives Palestinians and their children of their basic human rights as part of its efforts to impede the development of Palestinian society and to permanently frustrate the Palestinians’ right to self-determination. From 2008 until 6 October 2023, 1,434 Palestinian children were reportedly killed, with an additional 32,175 sustaining injuries, primarily at the hands of Israeli occupation forces. Of these, 1,025 children were killed in Gaza alone, since the unlawful blockade began in 2007. During the same timeframe, 25 Israeli children were killed, mostly by Palestinian assailants, and 524 were injured. Between 2019 and 2022, 1,679 Palestinian children and 15 Israeli children sustained lasting physical injuries, leaving many permanently disabled. An average of 500-700 Palestinian children are reported to be detained by Israeli occupation forces each year, with an estimated 13,000 mostly arbitrarily detained, interrogated, tried in military courts and imprisoned since 2000." That report can be found on the OCHR website | |||
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"Did he just compare Hamas or did he compare all Palestinians? If it's the former, I don't think that's genocide. The OP says he compared Hamas. In which case, it can't be genocide. Is retaliation against terrorists who killed your people called genocide these days? Have a listen to what top legal expert Francesca Albanese had to say about what rights a state that is an occupying power has in terms of self defence when she spoke at the Australian press club. She explains where international law stands on 'revenge' you are talking about. In her role as UN special rapporteur for the occupied Palestinian territories she reported her assessment of their human rights prior to October 7th: "The expert found that Israel, despite its obligations as an Occupying Power, deprives Palestinians and their children of their basic human rights as part of its efforts to impede the development of Palestinian society and to permanently frustrate the Palestinians’ right to self-determination. From 2008 until 6 October 2023, 1,434 Palestinian children were reportedly killed, with an additional 32,175 sustaining injuries, primarily at the hands of Israeli occupation forces. Of these, 1,025 children were killed in Gaza alone, since the unlawful blockade began in 2007. During the same timeframe, 25 Israeli children were killed, mostly by Palestinian assailants, and 524 were injured. Between 2019 and 2022, 1,679 Palestinian children and 15 Israeli children sustained lasting physical injuries, leaving many permanently disabled. An average of 500-700 Palestinian children are reported to be detained by Israeli occupation forces each year, with an estimated 13,000 mostly arbitrarily detained, interrogated, tried in military courts and imprisoned since 2000." That report can be found on the OCHR website " Then, outside of war times, Israel and the Palestinians should be encouraged, by the international community, to work out a solution which does not involve the subjugation of the Palestinians or their terrorist attacks on the Israelis. We should bear in mind, anyone who chants "From River to sea, Palestine should be free" wants to anhilate around 10 million Israelis. If they succeeded, Adolf would have been proud, he only managed 6 million when he tried. There are no easy solutions and partisan attitudes, on either side, only serve to make an amicable solution less likely. | |||
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"What Isreal wants is palistinian territory, (illegally) make themselves look the victim and have their own way regardless in the eyes of the world whatever crimes they commit. Hamas are evil yes, but hamas only exist because of isreali oppression What is the basis for your claim that the territory should be Palestinian (or "palistinian" as per your quote) or not Israeli (or "isreali" as per your quote) ? Is it a historic claim and what right to territory would you extend to Israel and why? I'm not justifying violence by either side." The evidence I base this claim on is and I repeatedly say: A few years ago Hamas offered to end hostility if Isreal would stop attacking Gaza and remove itself from illegally occupied land, allow goods to move freely Isreal refused. So therefore hamas continued on. | |||
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"Israel founded by Abraham from Ur in Iran. Israelites and Palestinians occupied the same territory for decades. Then 1048 Britain handed Palestine told too find a solution and made 1 state taking Palestinian land but Making no viable Palestinian state. Then Israel used violence to expand the borders given by Britain and occupied Palestinian territory and fought wars, created violence on Palestinians who responded as expected. It has been going on a long long time and neither USA no UK have gotten serious about sorting it and ordinary Palestinian and Israeli occupants of the whole Palestinian area that includes Israel suffer. Abraham is also the father of the Palestinians.. A slight rewrite of history there. Israel increased its territory only after being attacked hostile acts in 1967 and 1973. Of course, it has used violence to maintain those borders when it sees a threat. It has also used violence against what it sees as terrorists which include Hamas and Hisbollah. Those organisations are recognised as terrorist organisations by many. Do you recognise them as such? Sadly, acts of violence perpetrated by one side will always be met with counter acts of violence. But please do not assume that Israel used violence unilaterally to take territory as a singular act when it was a reaction to being attacked by surrounding Arab states." International law. You cannot expand through waging war | |||
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"Israel founded by Abraham from Ur in Iran. Israelites and Palestinians occupied the same territory for decades. Then 1048 Britain handed Palestine told too find a solution and made 1 state taking Palestinian land but Making no viable Palestinian state. Then Israel used violence to expand the borders given by Britain and occupied Palestinian territory and fought wars, created violence on Palestinians who responded as expected. It has been going on a long long time and neither USA no UK have gotten serious about sorting it and ordinary Palestinian and Israeli occupants of the whole Palestinian area that includes Israel suffer. Abraham is also the father of the Palestinians.. A slight rewrite of history there. Israel increased its territory only after being attacked hostile acts in 1967 and 1973. Of course, it has used violence to maintain those borders when it sees a threat. It has also used violence against what it sees as terrorists which include Hamas and Hisbollah. Those organisations are recognised as terrorist organisations by many. Do you recognise them as such? Sadly, acts of violence perpetrated by one side will always be met with counter acts of violence. But please do not assume that Israel used violence unilaterally to take territory as a singular act when it was a reaction to being attacked by surrounding Arab states. International law. You cannot expand through waging war" So would you therefore accept the 1948 borders? | |||
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"South Africa accuses Isreal of genocide. On e piece of evidence was being Benjamin Netanyahu..speaking Hebrew to his troops, comparing Hamas to the now extinct Amlekites from the book of Samuel. The passage says "smite the Amalekites after they launched a vicious surprise attack on the Jewish people. It's a commandment to completely destroy all of Amlekites... talking about killing each and every one of them.. including children, babies , destroying all property and all the animals even. How can anyone say this ethnic cleansing is any else? I was shocked to read this and is a condemnation of isreali actions. I for one comdemn hamas but two wrong don't make a right. I also aplaud south Africa for not being two faced hypocrites like the USA and also the UK for facilitating Isreal in this." There is no children, women, suckling babies, Cattle ect in Hamas. Hamas is an elected political ruling party with an armed wing. For you to say he was comparing Hamas to Amalek is deceptive. The 30000 dead and 70000 injured and memed are not Hamas members. They are inocent Palestinian refugees in Gazza who were displaced and dispossessed throughout the decades by the illegal terrorist state. And the 340000 houses destroyed plus the 30 hospitals attacked and closed are not military targets. The Closing of water supply and prohibition of food aid or heating fuel to come into Gaza for 3 months and counting is nothing short of a genocide attempt. With full support and complicity of Western Powers. | |||
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"South Africa accuses Isreal of genocide. On e piece of evidence was being Benjamin Netanyahu..speaking Hebrew to his troops, comparing Hamas to the now extinct Amlekites from the book of Samuel. The passage says "smite the Amalekites after they launched a vicious surprise attack on the Jewish people. It's a commandment to completely destroy all of Amlekites... talking about killing each and every one of them.. including children, babies , destroying all property and all the animals even. How can anyone say this ethnic cleansing is any else? I was shocked to read this and is a condemnation of isreali actions. I for one comdemn hamas but two wrong don't make a right. I also aplaud south Africa for not being two faced hypocrites like the USA and also the UK for facilitating Isreal in this. There is no children, women, suckling babies, Cattle ect in Hamas. Hamas is an elected political ruling party with an armed wing. For you to say he was comparing Hamas to Amalek is deceptive. The 30000 dead and 70000 injured and memed are not Hamas members. They are inocent Palestinian refugees in Gazza who were displaced and dispossessed throughout the decades by the illegal terrorist state. And the 340000 houses destroyed plus the 30 hospitals attacked and closed are not military targets. The Closing of water supply and prohibition of food aid or heating fuel to come into Gaza for 3 months and counting is nothing short of a genocide attempt. With full support and complicity of Western Powers. " This the gunf people swallow. Isreal say hamas, not palistine people being hit They say hesbolah not palisitinians being bombed Yet with 84% of palisitinians displaced, in a state of famine then YES! Suckling babies are dying while you swallow bollocks! | |||
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"Not smart enough to understand it all But let’s be honest, Hamas fucked around. Now they’re finding out The question is, if Hamas surrender today, would the fighting stop? Yes but the oppression will continue by Isreal plus what they've done to the palisitinians already, guarantees a new generation of fighters If yes then surely the pressure should be on Hamas to surrender They won't. The poor bastards are the civilians caught up in this mess. The only way for it to end is for Isreal to realise that the same crap they've done for 50 years doesn't work. So we’re placing all the pressure on a country to surrender to a terrorists group? Fair enough, then what? " The only terrorists in this story is Israel and it's genocidal colonial western gang who created it. People who fight for the lands, lives and freedom are called freedom fighters. They're only terrorists in the eyes of colonial invaders | |||
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"Not smart enough to understand it all But let’s be honest, Hamas fucked around. Now they’re finding out The question is, if Hamas surrender today, would the fighting stop? Yes but the oppression will continue by Isreal plus what they've done to the palisitinians already, guarantees a new generation of fighters If yes then surely the pressure should be on Hamas to surrender They won't. The poor bastards are the civilians caught up in this mess. The only way for it to end is for Isreal to realise that the same crap they've done for 50 years doesn't work. So we’re placing all the pressure on a country to surrender to a terrorists group? Fair enough, then what? The only terrorists in this story is Israel and it's genocidal colonial western gang who created it. People who fight for the lands, lives and freedom are called freedom fighters. They're only terrorists in the eyes of colonial invaders " Damn. Sums it all up there. Hamas are freedom fighters Best of luck with that | |||
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"Not smart enough to understand it all But let’s be honest, Hamas fucked around. Now they’re finding out The question is, if Hamas surrender today, would the fighting stop? Yes but the oppression will continue by Isreal plus what they've done to the palisitinians already, guarantees a new generation of fighters If yes then surely the pressure should be on Hamas to surrender They won't. The poor bastards are the civilians caught up in this mess. The only way for it to end is for Isreal to realise that the same crap they've done for 50 years doesn't work. So we’re placing all the pressure on a country to surrender to a terrorists group? Fair enough, then what? The only terrorists in this story is Israel and it's genocidal colonial western gang who created it. People who fight for the lands, lives and freedom are called freedom fighters. They're only terrorists in the eyes of colonial invaders Damn. Sums it all up there. Hamas are freedom fighters Best of luck with that " Every single armed resistance against western occupation in history were labelled as "Terrorists" by the powers who mass murdered millions. The Algerian Liberation Front was labelled as Terrorists by the French. The Irish resistance against English occupation were labled as Terrorists, The Afghan Taliban when they fought the Russians they were labelled terrorists by Russia and Freedom fighters by the USA and Allies. When the latters invaded Afghanistan they suddenly become Terrorists because they're fighting the invaders who call themselves "Freedom fighters for Democracy and Human rights". These same fighters for "Democracy and human rights" have no problem with supporting genocides and killing 10's millions of innocent Muslims and displacing another 60 millions in their 3 decade long war again what they call "Terrorism". Many of those "Terrorist groups" were created by the CIA and Mossad to start with. | |||
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"Israel founded by Abraham from Ur in Iran. Israelites and Palestinians occupied the same territory for decades. Then 1048 Britain handed Palestine told too find a solution and made 1 state taking Palestinian land but Making no viable Palestinian state. Then Israel used violence to expand the borders given by Britain and occupied Palestinian territory and fought wars, created violence on Palestinians who responded as expected. It has been going on a long long time and neither USA no UK have gotten serious about sorting it and ordinary Palestinian and Israeli occupants of the whole Palestinian area that includes Israel suffer. Abraham is also the father of the Palestinians.. A slight rewrite of history there. Israel increased its territory only after being attacked hostile acts in 1967 and 1973. Of course, it has used violence to maintain those borders when it sees a threat. It has also used violence against what it sees as terrorists which include Hamas and Hisbollah. Those organisations are recognised as terrorist organisations by many. Do you recognise them as such? Sadly, acts of violence perpetrated by one side will always be met with counter acts of violence. But please do not assume that Israel used violence unilaterally to take territory as a singular act when it was a reaction to being attacked by surrounding Arab states. International law. You cannot expand through waging war" The world is full of examples where war has led to expansion of borders. Indeed, after ww1 the land later known as Palestine was split off from the Otterman Empire. Although in recent years, with the exception of the Hamas supporter Russia, land grabs have been far less frequent. So, why should Israel be the exception? Especially when they took the land after being attacked? | |||
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"Israel founded by Abraham from Ur in Iran. Israelites and Palestinians occupied the same territory for decades. Then 1048 Britain handed Palestine told too find a solution and made 1 state taking Palestinian land but Making no viable Palestinian state. Then Israel used violence to expand the borders given by Britain and occupied Palestinian territory and fought wars, created violence on Palestinians who responded as expected. It has been going on a long long time and neither USA no UK have gotten serious about sorting it and ordinary Palestinian and Israeli occupants of the whole Palestinian area that includes Israel suffer. Abraham is also the father of the Palestinians.. A slight rewrite of history there. Israel increased its territory only after being attacked hostile acts in 1967 and 1973. Of course, it has used violence to maintain those borders when it sees a threat. It has also used violence against what it sees as terrorists which include Hamas and Hisbollah. Those organisations are recognised as terrorist organisations by many. Do you recognise them as such? Sadly, acts of violence perpetrated by one side will always be met with counter acts of violence. But please do not assume that Israel used violence unilaterally to take territory as a singular act when it was a reaction to being attacked by surrounding Arab states. International law. You cannot expand through waging war The world is full of examples where war has led to expansion of borders. Indeed, after ww1 the land later known as Palestine was split off from the Otterman Empire. Although in recent years, with the exception of the Hamas supporter Russia, land grabs have been far less frequent. So, why should Israel be the exception? Especially when they took the land after being attacked? " Basically you're in favour of the law of the jungle. Whoever has the bigger stick is right in your book. That's exactly why people like Hamas take arms to defend their people from tyrants who think the way you do. They only understand the language of the bullet and violence. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 13/01/24 17:05:15] Are you becoming a spokesperson for Hamas? Your real motives are shining through....and then you remove your partial posts as you have second thoughts about the legality of your support perhaps?" It's called freedom of speech. I am free what to think or who to support. I know it hurts your feelings that the people who are being ethnically cleansed have supporters. Tough | |||
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"Israel founded by Abraham from Ur in Iran. Israelites and Palestinians occupied the same territory for decades. Then 1048 Britain handed Palestine told too find a solution and made 1 state taking Palestinian land but Making no viable Palestinian state. Then Israel used violence to expand the borders given by Britain and occupied Palestinian territory and fought wars, created violence on Palestinians who responded as expected. It has been going on a long long time and neither USA no UK have gotten serious about sorting it and ordinary Palestinian and Israeli occupants of the whole Palestinian area that includes Israel suffer. Abraham is also the father of the Palestinians.. A slight rewrite of history there. Israel increased its territory only after being attacked hostile acts in 1967 and 1973. Of course, it has used violence to maintain those borders when it sees a threat. It has also used violence against what it sees as terrorists which include Hamas and Hisbollah. Those organisations are recognised as terrorist organisations by many. Do you recognise them as such? Sadly, acts of violence perpetrated by one side will always be met with counter acts of violence. But please do not assume that Israel used violence unilaterally to take territory as a singular act when it was a reaction to being attacked by surrounding Arab states. International law. You cannot expand through waging war The world is full of examples where war has led to expansion of borders. Indeed, after ww1 the land later known as Palestine was split off from the Otterman Empire. Although in recent years, with the exception of the Hamas supporter Russia, land grabs have been far less frequent. So, why should Israel be the exception? Especially when they took the land after being attacked? Basically you're in favour of the law of the jungle. Whoever has the bigger stick is right in your book. That's exactly why people like Hamas take arms to defend their people from tyrants who think the way you do. They only understand the language of the bullet and violence. " Oh boy! That is a BIG leap from me quoting historical fact to you accusing me of being "in favour of the Law of the jungle". By the same measure I assume you are an antisemitic terrorist supporter who wants to see the elimination of Israel. See what I did there? This is a very complex, very emotionally charged, issue that can only be solved by amicable negotiations on both sides. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 13/01/24 17:05:15] Are you becoming a spokesperson for Hamas? Your real motives are shining through....and then you remove your partial posts as you have second thoughts about the legality of your support perhaps? It's called freedom of speech. I am free what to think or who to support. I know it hurts your feelings that the people who are being ethnically cleansed have supporters. Tough I am referring to your support of proscribed organisations only. What organisations? Do I support any organisations on your eyes? I was referring to AandE2000.... i know, and I happen to agree with him So you do support a proscribed organisation as well?" The only thing I prescribe to is international law.. it should be universal yet it's not in this case. Killing innocent people can never be justified.. in this case.. wether it's hamas or the idf. I condemn the killings on both sides. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 13/01/24 17:05:15] Are you becoming a spokesperson for Hamas? Your real motives are shining through....and then you remove your partial posts as you have second thoughts about the legality of your support perhaps? It's called freedom of speech. I am free what to think or who to support. I know it hurts your feelings that the people who are being ethnically cleansed have supporters. Tough I am referring to your support of proscribed organisations only. What organisations? Do I support any organisations on your eyes? I was referring to AandE2000.... i know, and I happen to agree with him So you do support a proscribed organisation as well? The only thing I prescribe to is international law.. it should be universal yet it's not in this case. Killing innocent people can never be justified.. in this case.. wether it's hamas or the idf. I condemn the killings on both sides. " Before blindly stating that you support what he said on his deleted post, perhaps you should have read it........"i know, and I happen to agree with him"....your words. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 13/01/24 17:05:15] Are you becoming a spokesperson for Hamas? Your real motives are shining through....and then you remove your partial posts as you have second thoughts about the legality of your support perhaps? It's called freedom of speech. I am free what to think or who to support. I know it hurts your feelings that the people who are being ethnically cleansed have supporters. Tough I am referring to your support of proscribed organisations only. What organisations? Do I support any organisations on your eyes? I was referring to AandE2000.... i know, and I happen to agree with him So you do support a proscribed organisation as well? The only thing I prescribe to is international law.. it should be universal yet it's not in this case. Killing innocent people can never be justified.. in this case.. wether it's hamas or the idf. I condemn the killings on both sides. Before blindly stating that you support what he said on his deleted post, perhaps you should have read it........"i know, and I happen to agree with him"....your words." Yea whatever | |||
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"I am just going to comment on the court case… To be honest the South Africans put up a much better cases for the prosecution than the Israelis did for the defence If the case does go South Africa’s way.. what will happen next at the UN will be fascinating Probably some one, I am guessing an Arab country, are going to ask the UN Security Council to ratify the court’s decision a vote… the US will absolutely veto (be interesting to see if the UK also veto or abstain) Then because of that someone will call an extraordinary general meeting… and the entire assembly will vote In theory if that happens I wonder what Israel will do….." I understand that there is unlikely to be a ruling on this for 2 years while the real legal case is presented, mulled over, kicked aroundthe dusty halls etc. Interestingly, the court isn't being asked to rule that genocide has definitely taken place, just that there is a possibility that genocide could have taken place (I assume that this is similar to the UK criminal/civil test or beyond reasonable doubt against on balance of probability). | |||
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"Some people on here are verging on a breach of UK law in respect of proscribed organisations. The UK is in breach of it's own humanitarian laws and international laws. I'd love to see you use that a a defence in a UK Court. Although if you did, I would be the first in line to buy you a beer after you served your sentence That would a tiny scratch compared to the atrocities this government is taking part in On balance, I will side with a democratic system, that doesn't discriminate against women or those who have a non hetero outlook. A system which doesn't have religious intolerance of others as a stated aim. " someone blinkered by the pink-washing I'm sure your descendants will be super proud of your defence in years to come when they ask you what you did while this atrocity took place It's funny when people choose the groups whose human rights they wish to uphold as a way of virtue signalling while turning a blind eye to basic human rights of the ones the place in a less favoured position. I'm embarrassed for you. | |||
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"Some people on here are verging on a breach of UK law in respect of proscribed organisations. The UK is in breach of it's own humanitarian laws and international laws. I'd love to see you use that a a defence in a UK Court. Although if you did, I would be the first in line to buy you a beer after you served your sentence That would a tiny scratch compared to the atrocities this government is taking part in On balance, I will side with a democratic system, that doesn't discriminate against women or those who have a non hetero outlook. A system which doesn't have religious intolerance of others as a stated aim. someone blinkered by the pink-washing I'm sure your descendants will be super proud of your defence in years to come when they ask you what you did while this atrocity took place It's funny when people choose the groups whose human rights they wish to uphold as a way of virtue signalling while turning a blind eye to basic human rights of the ones the place in a less favoured position. I'm embarrassed for you. " I think that you missed the point. It was a condemnation of the support of Hamas, a proscribed organisation under the Terrorism Act 2000 and pointing out a potential breach of section 12 of the law by inviting support for that organisation. However, I would ask, since you misread the entire thread, and now with the ability to look up for yourself, the laws on prescription, are you inviting support for support for Hamas? (Try Google- offences in support of proscribed organisations UK as a search term). Or like the rest of us, are you simply appalled at the loss of innocent life? In which case, I will ignore your misguided judgement, paltry attempt at reducing the debate to laughable personal insult and inability to consider the argument rationally. | |||
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"Hamas video shows two more dead hostages, presumably killed in captivity, by whom not said Palestinians will pay a disproportionately very high price for this before the week is out What would you consider a proportional price to pay?" Taking on hamas combatants with lawful rules of engagement | |||
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" Taking on hamas combatants with lawful rules of engagement " Should Hamas also take on the IDF with lawful rules of engagement? | |||
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" Taking on hamas combatants with lawful rules of engagement Should Hamas also take on the IDF with lawful rules of engagement?" Hamas don't. That does not excuse IDF of that obligation. | |||
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" Taking on hamas combatants with lawful rules of engagement Should Hamas also take on the IDF with lawful rules of engagement?" If the IDF did. Then an awful lot of innocent civilians would be spared | |||
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" Taking on hamas combatants with lawful rules of engagement Should Hamas also take on the IDF with lawful rules of engagement? If the IDF did. Then an awful lot of innocent civilians would be spared" If the IDF did. So because the IDF does not, then Hamas is excused from the rules? | |||
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" Taking on hamas combatants with lawful rules of engagement Should Hamas also take on the IDF with lawful rules of engagement? If the IDF did. Then an awful lot of innocent civilians would be spared If the IDF did. So because the IDF does not, then Hamas is excused from the rules?" No-one should be excused. Those that do it should be investigated as best as possible. One side not adhering does not excuse the other either. | |||
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" No-one should be excused. Those that do it should be investigated as best as possible. One side not adhering does not excuse the other either. " Fair enough. It just seems that your ire is primarily directed at one side of this conflict. | |||
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"Some people on here are verging on a breach of UK law in respect of proscribed organisations. The UK is in breach of it's own humanitarian laws and international laws. I'd love to see you use that a a defence in a UK Court. Although if you did, I would be the first in line to buy you a beer after you served your sentence That would a tiny scratch compared to the atrocities this government is taking part in On balance, I will side with a democratic system, that doesn't discriminate against women or those who have a non hetero outlook. A system which doesn't have religious intolerance of others as a stated aim. someone blinkered by the pink-washing I'm sure your descendants will be super proud of your defence in years to come when they ask you what you did while this atrocity took place It's funny when people choose the groups whose human rights they wish to uphold as a way of virtue signalling while turning a blind eye to basic human rights of the ones the place in a less favoured position. I'm embarrassed for you. I think that you missed the point. It was a condemnation of the support of Hamas, a proscribed organisation under the Terrorism Act 2000 and pointing out a potential breach of section 12 of the law by inviting support for that organisation. However, I would ask, since you misread the entire thread, and now with the ability to look up for yourself, the laws on prescription, are you inviting support for support for Hamas? (Try Google- offences in support of proscribed organisations UK as a search term). Or like the rest of us, are you simply appalled at the loss of innocent life? In which case, I will ignore your misguided judgement, paltry attempt at reducing the debate to laughable personal insult and inability to consider the argument rationally. Strangely enough, your actual post that I was replying to where you said " On balance, I will side with a democratic system, that doesn't discriminate against women or those who have a non hetero outlook. A system which doesn't have religious intolerance of others as a stated aim." That is what my response was to, not the previous part of the discussion so those questions weren't directed at me in case you didn't realise. So perhaps you don't know what pink washing is and get your view of how 'the only democracy in the middle East' straight from the pages of the hasbara guide and maybe you're just a paid troll. Cos we know that 'democracy' has such a clean record that it needs a whole PR division aimed at sanitising what they're actually doing and have been doing for 75 years. And before you come back at me, I am appalled at the loss of innocent life, all over the world, whatever the victims race religion gender or sexual orientation. It should never be some lives matter more than others. I also mourn the death of international law and the sham democracy we live in ourselves. We have a government that will choose saving shipping containers over saving lives. We can be as sure as hell they wouldn't be coming to our defence any time soon if we needed them to. Well not unless it means they get another excuse to steal our taxes and transfer wealth to their buddies! They proved that during the pandemic and will do so again and again with zero accountability. " Spot on | |||
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"Some people on here are verging on a breach of UK law in respect of proscribed organisations. The UK is in breach of it's own humanitarian laws and international laws. I'd love to see you use that a a defence in a UK Court. Although if you did, I would be the first in line to buy you a beer after you served your sentence That would a tiny scratch compared to the atrocities this government is taking part in On balance, I will side with a democratic system, that doesn't discriminate against women or those who have a non hetero outlook. A system which doesn't have religious intolerance of others as a stated aim. someone blinkered by the pink-washing I'm sure your descendants will be super proud of your defence in years to come when they ask you what you did while this atrocity took place It's funny when people choose the groups whose human rights they wish to uphold as a way of virtue signalling while turning a blind eye to basic human rights of the ones the place in a less favoured position. I'm embarrassed for you. I think that you missed the point. It was a condemnation of the support of Hamas, a proscribed organisation under the Terrorism Act 2000 and pointing out a potential breach of section 12 of the law by inviting support for that organisation. However, I would ask, since you misread the entire thread, and now with the ability to look up for yourself, the laws on prescription, are you inviting support for support for Hamas? (Try Google- offences in support of proscribed organisations UK as a search term). Or like the rest of us, are you simply appalled at the loss of innocent life? In which case, I will ignore your misguided judgement, paltry attempt at reducing the debate to laughable personal insult and inability to consider the argument rationally. Strangely enough, your actual post that I was replying to where you said " On balance, I will side with a democratic system, that doesn't discriminate against women or those who have a non hetero outlook. A system which doesn't have religious intolerance of others as a stated aim." That is what my response was to, not the previous part of the discussion so those questions weren't directed at me in case you didn't realise. So perhaps you don't know what pink washing is and get your view of how 'the only democracy in the middle East' straight from the pages of the hasbara guide and maybe you're just a paid troll. Cos we know that 'democracy' has such a clean record that it needs a whole PR division aimed at sanitising what they're actually doing and have been doing for 75 years. And before you come back at me, I am appalled at the loss of innocent life, all over the world, whatever the victims race religion gender or sexual orientation. It should never be some lives matter more than others. I also mourn the death of international law and the sham democracy we live in ourselves. We have a government that will choose saving shipping containers over saving lives. We can be as sure as hell they wouldn't be coming to our defence any time soon if we needed them to. Well not unless it means they get another excuse to steal our taxes and transfer wealth to their buddies! They proved that during the pandemic and will do so again and again with zero accountability. " So, to sum up. You are suggesting that I am a paid troll?..wrong. More disturbing is that accusation is your belief that I get my view as a paid troll directly from the pages of the 'hasbara guide'. I had to look up what that was! The bottom line is that you clearly believe that I could have been paid by someone....who wouldn't be in this country. Therefore you believe that it is somewhat INTERNATIONAL. Then you have invoked the phrase relating from the zionist state which represents JEWISH interests. ...and because your indication is of a programme of paid trolls, isn't that a CONSPIRACY? So, you are effectively stating that there is an INTERNATIONAL JEWISH CONSPIRACY? (We know where that goes,don't we). Pink washing? Nope, wrong again. I am not seeking to promote violence in support of any cause. To the contrary, I state the I would prefer to support a system on balance that doesn't oppress groups in the pink bracket or women. I have also stated that the violence is appalling. Finally, are you stating you are against democracy per se or is it just that you don't accept that sometimes you cannot accept the will of the people if the election throws up a result that you aren't happy with? That being the case, what system of Government would you introduce? I am not sure whether you read the now removed post at 17:05:13 on 13th January....that was what my response was aimed at, especially as it appeared to support Hamas. | |||
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" Taking on hamas combatants with lawful rules of engagement Should Hamas also take on the IDF with lawful rules of engagement? Hamas don't. That does not excuse IDF of that obligation. "Hamas don't" According to what source? The Governments and their Media who told us they beheaded 40 babies? Lol The same gvts who condemned Nelson Mandela as a terrorist? Iraq as having Nuclear Bombs? ect ect ect Are you suggesting that Hamas does indeed abide by "lawful rules of engagement"? It depends who you're asking. Israel's Allies and Media or Hamas. If compared to Israel, USA, UK, France, China Russia, Arab puppet Rulers ect they're a 1000 times more humane. Expressing support for Hamas is illegal. I know you are trying to tip toe around showing your outright support on every other post, but I think you've made your feelings very clear..... This is in my opinion is expressing support" The last time expression of beliefs and opinions became illegal in the west, 100's millions of people died and Europe was plunged into centuries of dark ages. Don't threaten me for my opinion. | |||
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" Taking on hamas combatants with lawful rules of engagement Should Hamas also take on the IDF with lawful rules of engagement? Hamas don't. That does not excuse IDF of that obligation. "Hamas don't" According to what source? The Governments and their Media who told us they beheaded 40 babies? Lol The same gvts who condemned Nelson Mandela as a terrorist? Iraq as having Nuclear Bombs? ect ect ect Are you suggesting that Hamas does indeed abide by "lawful rules of engagement"? It depends who you're asking. Israel's Allies and Media or Hamas. If compared to Israel, USA, UK, France, China Russia, Arab puppet Rulers ect they're a 1000 times more humane. Expressing support for Hamas is illegal. I know you are trying to tip toe around showing your outright support on every other post, but I think you've made your feelings very clear..... This is in my opinion is expressing support The last time expression of beliefs and opinions became illegal in the west, 100's millions of people died and Europe was plunged into centuries of dark ages. Don't threaten me for my opinion. " I will when it is illegal, in short you are expressing support for a terrorist organisation, which is illegal in most civilised countries. If you don't like the thought of not being able to express support for a terrorist organisation, find a place that allows your expression and will house you... | |||
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" Taking on hamas combatants with lawful rules of engagement Should Hamas also take on the IDF with lawful rules of engagement? Hamas don't. That does not excuse IDF of that obligation. "Hamas don't" According to what source? The Governments and their Media who told us they beheaded 40 babies? Lol The same gvts who condemned Nelson Mandela as a terrorist? Iraq as having Nuclear Bombs? ect ect ect Are you suggesting that Hamas does indeed abide by "lawful rules of engagement"? It depends who you're asking. Israel's Allies and Media or Hamas. If compared to Israel, USA, UK, France, China Russia, Arab puppet Rulers ect they're a 1000 times more humane. Expressing support for Hamas is illegal. I know you are trying to tip toe around showing your outright support on every other post, but I think you've made your feelings very clear..... This is in my opinion is expressing support The last time expression of beliefs and opinions became illegal in the west, 100's millions of people died and Europe was plunged into centuries of dark ages. Don't threaten me for my opinion. I will when it is illegal, in short you are expressing support for a terrorist organisation, which is illegal in most civilised countries. If you don't like the thought of not being able to express support for a terrorist organisation, find a place that allows your expression and will house you..." Take me to court. "Civilised nations" don't support colonialism, genocides and sla*ery. They also don't groom their own kids in nurseries and schools in the name of sex education. Or murder half of them in their mother's bellies. Or destroy the notion of gender, family, marriage and parenthood. Or have special islands where the rich and powerful can Murder and grape kids for fun.... I can keep going | |||
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" Taking on hamas combatants with lawful rules of engagement Should Hamas also take on the IDF with lawful rules of engagement? Hamas don't. That does not excuse IDF of that obligation. "Hamas don't" According to what source? The Governments and their Media who told us they beheaded 40 babies? Lol The same gvts who condemned Nelson Mandela as a terrorist? Iraq as having Nuclear Bombs? ect ect ect Are you suggesting that Hamas does indeed abide by "lawful rules of engagement"? It depends who you're asking. Israel's Allies and Media or Hamas. If compared to Israel, USA, UK, France, China Russia, Arab puppet Rulers ect they're a 1000 times more humane. Expressing support for Hamas is illegal. I know you are trying to tip toe around showing your outright support on every other post, but I think you've made your feelings very clear..... This is in my opinion is expressing support The last time expression of beliefs and opinions became illegal in the west, 100's millions of people died and Europe was plunged into centuries of dark ages. Don't threaten me for my opinion. Your assertion that Hamas is 1000 times more humane than the UK or USA is astonishing. It could only be that you agree with their methods due to agreeing with their aims/end-point, i.e. their charter. Surely only those who share an Islamist agenda and viewpoint could make that statement and, even then, it's a stretch to call them humane. You are defending a group that itself quashes dissenting opinions and beliefs, yet you invoke an almost identical group from history to castigate it. The current Islamist groups are the modern equivalent of the very worst repressions of the early Catholic church." Ok so you're just an Islamophobic who has no intelligent argument or solid argument except what the invaders who commit genocides label those who resist them. I get you. Labels made by aggressors don't make an argument. If H*tler won WW2 you'd be the 1st to call him a hero. | |||
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" Take me to court. "Civilised nations" don't support colonialism, genocides and sla*ery. They also don't groom their own kids in nurseries and schools in the name of sex education. Or murder half of them in their mother's bellies. Or destroy the notion of gender, family, marriage and parenthood. Or have special islands where the rich and powerful can Murder and grape kids for fun.... I can keep going" Are you here for the sexual activities and swinging, or the political discussion? Your views on sex seem oddly conservative (in the Middle Eastern sense) for this website. | |||
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" Taking on hamas combatants with lawful rules of engagement Should Hamas also take on the IDF with lawful rules of engagement? Hamas don't. That does not excuse IDF of that obligation. "Hamas don't" According to what source? The Governments and their Media who told us they beheaded 40 babies? Lol The same gvts who condemned Nelson Mandela as a terrorist? Iraq as having Nuclear Bombs? ect ect ect Are you suggesting that Hamas does indeed abide by "lawful rules of engagement"? It depends who you're asking. Israel's Allies and Media or Hamas. If compared to Israel, USA, UK, France, China Russia, Arab puppet Rulers ect they're a 1000 times more humane. Expressing support for Hamas is illegal. I know you are trying to tip toe around showing your outright support on every other post, but I think you've made your feelings very clear..... This is in my opinion is expressing support The last time expression of beliefs and opinions became illegal in the west, 100's millions of people died and Europe was plunged into centuries of dark ages. Don't threaten me for my opinion. I will when it is illegal, in short you are expressing support for a terrorist organisation, which is illegal in most civilised countries. If you don't like the thought of not being able to express support for a terrorist organisation, find a place that allows your expression and will house you... Take me to court. "Civilised nations" don't support colonialism, genocides and sla*ery. They also don't groom their own kids in nurseries and schools in the name of sex education. Or murder half of them in their mother's bellies. Or destroy the notion of gender, family, marriage and parenthood. Or have special islands where the rich and powerful can Murder and grape kids for fun.... I can keep going" I know you can keep going, that is why I said luckily for you I'm not a Mod. | |||
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" Take me to court. "Civilised nations" don't support colonialism, genocides and sla*ery. They also don't groom their own kids in nurseries and schools in the name of sex education. Or murder half of them in their mother's bellies. Or destroy the notion of gender, family, marriage and parenthood. Or have special islands where the rich and powerful can Murder and grape kids for fun.... I can keep going Are you here for the sexual activities and swinging, or the political discussion? Your views on sex seem oddly conservative (in the Middle Eastern sense) for this website. " I smoke too. And I believe smoking is bad. What's your point? What's right and wrong is not subjective and irrelevant to what I do or don't. It's a no brainer that grooming kids and destroying the only institution that protects them ie. Family is evil. | |||
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" Take me to court. "Civilised nations" don't support colonialism, genocides and sla*ery. They also don't groom their own kids in nurseries and schools in the name of sex education. Or murder half of them in their mother's bellies. Or destroy the notion of gender, family, marriage and parenthood. Or have special islands where the rich and powerful can Murder and grape kids for fun.... I can keep going Are you here for the sexual activities and swinging, or the political discussion? Your views on sex seem oddly conservative (in the Middle Eastern sense) for this website. I smoke too. And I believe smoking is bad. What's your point? What's right and wrong is not subjective and irrelevant to what I do or don't. It's a no brainer that grooming kids and destroying the only institution that protects them ie. Family is evil." I'm lost, why you have brought the above into discussion, is it deflection from your support of the terrorist organisation called Hamas? | |||
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" Take me to court. "Civilised nations" don't support colonialism, genocides and sla*ery. They also don't groom their own kids in nurseries and schools in the name of sex education. Or murder half of them in their mother's bellies. Or destroy the notion of gender, family, marriage and parenthood. Or have special islands where the rich and powerful can Murder and grape kids for fun.... I can keep going Are you here for the sexual activities and swinging, or the political discussion? Your views on sex seem oddly conservative (in the Middle Eastern sense) for this website. I smoke too. And I believe smoking is bad. What's your point? What's right and wrong is not subjective and irrelevant to what I do or don't. It's a no brainer that grooming kids and destroying the only institution that protects them ie. Family is evil. I'm lost, why you have brought the above into discussion, is it deflection from your support of the terrorist organisation called Hamas? " I think you lost track of your own conversation. 1- The subject is about the genocide committed by the real terrorists in the middle east. Whome you call "Civilised countries" and those who fight back with home made weapons for their freedom you call them "Terrorists". I was just proving your racism, Islamophobia and superiority complexe is not based on any moral foundation or intelligent argument. All you've doing so far is threatening me for my moral stand. | |||
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" Ok so you're just an Islamophobic who has no intelligent argument or solid argument except what the invaders who commit genocides label those who resist them. I get you. Labels made by aggressors don't make an argument. If H*tler won WW2 you'd be the 1st to call him a hero. " Is it the term "Islamist" with which you take issue? What term would you use? | |||
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" Take me to court. "Civilised nations" don't support colonialism, genocides and sla*ery. They also don't groom their own kids in nurseries and schools in the name of sex education. Or murder half of them in their mother's bellies. Or destroy the notion of gender, family, marriage and parenthood. Or have special islands where the rich and powerful can Murder and grape kids for fun.... I can keep going Are you here for the sexual activities and swinging, or the political discussion? Your views on sex seem oddly conservative (in the Middle Eastern sense) for this website. I smoke too. And I believe smoking is bad. What's your point? What's right and wrong is not subjective and irrelevant to what I do or don't. It's a no brainer that grooming kids and destroying the only institution that protects them ie. Family is evil. I'm lost, why you have brought the above into discussion, is it deflection from your support of the terrorist organisation called Hamas? I think you lost track of your own conversation. 1- The subject is about the genocide committed by the real terrorists in the middle east. Whome you call "Civilised countries" and those who fight back with home made weapons for their freedom you call them "Terrorists". I was just proving your racism, Islamophobia and superiority complexe is not based on any moral foundation or intelligent argument. All you've doing so far is threatening me for my moral stand. " Nope, I haven't got lost on what I have said, I'm very clear on that and your reply has confirmed you are simply backtracking out of the mess you made for yourself in expressing support for a terrorist organisation called Hamas. | |||
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" Take me to court. "Civilised nations" don't support colonialism, genocides and sla*ery. They also don't groom their own kids in nurseries and schools in the name of sex education. Or murder half of them in their mother's bellies. Or destroy the notion of gender, family, marriage and parenthood. Or have special islands where the rich and powerful can Murder and grape kids for fun.... I can keep going Are you here for the sexual activities and swinging, or the political discussion? Your views on sex seem oddly conservative (in the Middle Eastern sense) for this website. I smoke too. And I believe smoking is bad. What's your point? What's right and wrong is not subjective and irrelevant to what I do or don't. It's a no brainer that grooming kids and destroying the only institution that protects them ie. Family is evil. I'm lost, why you have brought the above into discussion, is it deflection from your support of the terrorist organisation called Hamas? I think you lost track of your own conversation. 1- The subject is about the genocide committed by the real terrorists in the middle east. Whome you call "Civilised countries" and those who fight back with home made weapons for their freedom you call them "Terrorists". I was just proving your racism, Islamophobia and superiority complexe is not based on any moral foundation or intelligent argument. All you've doing so far is threatening me for my moral stand. Nope, I haven't got lost on what I have said, I'm very clear on that and your reply has confirmed you are simply backtracking out of the mess you made for yourself in expressing support for a terrorist organisation called Hamas." I bed to disagree. You're the one supporting terrorism when it's your team doing the terrorism. | |||
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" Take me to court. "Civilised nations" don't support colonialism, genocides and sla*ery. They also don't groom their own kids in nurseries and schools in the name of sex education. Or murder half of them in their mother's bellies. Or destroy the notion of gender, family, marriage and parenthood. Or have special islands where the rich and powerful can Murder and grape kids for fun.... I can keep going Are you here for the sexual activities and swinging, or the political discussion? Your views on sex seem oddly conservative (in the Middle Eastern sense) for this website. I smoke too. And I believe smoking is bad. What's your point? What's right and wrong is not subjective and irrelevant to what I do or don't. It's a no brainer that grooming kids and destroying the only institution that protects them ie. Family is evil. I'm lost, why you have brought the above into discussion, is it deflection from your support of the terrorist organisation called Hamas? I think you lost track of your own conversation. 1- The subject is about the genocide committed by the real terrorists in the middle east. Whome you call "Civilised countries" and those who fight back with home made weapons for their freedom you call them "Terrorists". I was just proving your racism, Islamophobia and superiority complexe is not based on any moral foundation or intelligent argument. All you've doing so far is threatening me for my moral stand. Nope, I haven't got lost on what I have said, I'm very clear on that and your reply has confirmed you are simply backtracking out of the mess you made for yourself in expressing support for a terrorist organisation called Hamas. I bed to disagree. You're the one supporting terrorism when it's your team doing the terrorism. " You have expressed your support for Hamas, which is illegal. You have broken the law | |||
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" Take me to court. "Civilised nations" don't support colonialism, genocides and sla*ery. They also don't groom their own kids in nurseries and schools in the name of sex education. Or murder half of them in their mother's bellies. Or destroy the notion of gender, family, marriage and parenthood. Or have special islands where the rich and powerful can Murder and grape kids for fun.... I can keep going Are you here for the sexual activities and swinging, or the political discussion? Your views on sex seem oddly conservative (in the Middle Eastern sense) for this website. I smoke too. And I believe smoking is bad. What's your point? What's right and wrong is not subjective and irrelevant to what I do or don't. It's a no brainer that grooming kids and destroying the only institution that protects them ie. Family is evil. I'm lost, why you have brought the above into discussion, is it deflection from your support of the terrorist organisation called Hamas? I think you lost track of your own conversation. 1- The subject is about the genocide committed by the real terrorists in the middle east. Whome you call "Civilised countries" and those who fight back with home made weapons for their freedom you call them "Terrorists". I was just proving your racism, Islamophobia and superiority complexe is not based on any moral foundation or intelligent argument. All you've doing so far is threatening me for my moral stand. Nope, I haven't got lost on what I have said, I'm very clear on that and your reply has confirmed you are simply backtracking out of the mess you made for yourself in expressing support for a terrorist organisation called Hamas. I bed to disagree. You're the one supporting terrorism when it's your team doing the terrorism. You have expressed your support for Hamas, which is illegal. You have broken the law " You're borringly repeating yoursel | |||
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"What I find staggering and astonishing is the level of continuous meddling and interference of the US UK and isreal in the middle East with no regard for unpredictable outcomes (yet again!). The west are only and can only try to treat the symptoms of the Isreal-Gaza conflict, because they refuse to fix the real root cause of the problem.. and play down the genocide in Gaza We have the US blaming Iran for the conflicts, saying that they are behind hesbola, hamas, and houthi actions, yet a us pentagon based hi military ranking then says the Houthi attacks are nothing to do with gaza, even though the houthis stated that they're supporting Gaza by attacking Israeli related shipping. USA UK and Isreal routinely bomb countries in the middle East in a routine basis, and use drones and missiles while not wanting to increase the chance of a regional conflict (yeah right! ) yet when Iran does exactly the same, the Americans condemn the actions. The latest being America is now re-imposing sanctions on Yemen, one of the most poorest countries in the world, and close to starvation, hindering Yemeni forces to deal with the houthis. Brilliant! What a brilliant plan, what could possibly go wrong! go wrong! " I totally agree there. Except one single detail. When you say: "hindering Yemeni forces to deal with the houthis", The Houthis are the Yemeni forces by defacto on the ground. And they are very popular right now, because they opposed the western-Saudi-UAE coalition again Ah, I thought the houthis control part of Yemen and in conflict with the other area of Yemen controlled by the yemoni govt. Ah yes, Saudi/ UAE.. the shining beacon of democracy and human rights in the region the USA support " Correct, the Houthis control the western part of Yemen. The rest is occupied by The USA-Saudi-UAE coalition with a puppet corrupt govt chosen by the invading coalition that has zero power on the ground. And it's very unstable and unpopular. The goal is to divide Yemen into 6 smaller | |||
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" Correct, the Houthis control the western part of Yemen. The rest is occupied by The USA-Saudi-UAE coalition with a puppet corrupt govt chosen by the invading coalition that has zero power on the ground. And it's very unstable and unpopular. The goal is to divide Yemen into 6 smaller " The same usual crap then.. I remember the Venezuela fiasco where the USA decided who should be president there and set up some guy Guido? As a puppet president. Usual shite different continent | |||
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"Firstly, let me make it clear, I totally regret the loss of innocent lives in Gaza, and wish it would stop, but this is a war and in wars innocents always get killed as collateral damage. It is also in Hamas's interest for innocent Palestinians to be put in harms way because it brings international pressure on Israel to stop the fighting. This is so Hamas, who are currently losing, can regroup, rearm and continue attacking the Israelis as they have done for over 3 decades. Netanyahu is the leader of Israel. It is standard practice for leaders in wars to use emotionally charged rhetoric that motivates their people to fight. Likening Hamas to Amalekites, who also sought the anhilation of all the Jews, is just such rhetoric. Israel see the annihilation of Hamas (Not the Palestinians), who will not negotiate in good faith a diplomatic solution, as the only way peace can be returned to the area. What other solution can there be that does not lead to more decades of Hamas attacking Israel? The annihilation of all Jews? What happens then? If Hamas are gone they will be replaced with someone else. All Israel are doing now is creating the next wave of young angry men who've lost everything and are ready to commit more atrocities. With Hamas gone the UN could step in and organised some proper elections for the first time in 17 years. Enable a proper government that is not run by a man in Qatar. After this perhaps the Palestinian people can agree to live in peace with the Israelis. It is worth a try even though hatred between the peoples may last for years. Least we forget, we in the UK used to hate the Germans and the Japanese. Is this likely to stop Israel from taking Palestinian land and attacking them? That was going on way before Hamas. Exactly! Plus this act by Isreal will solve anything! They have to pull out of occupied territories. FFS UK and USA stole land to create Isreal in the first place and they still want more land! Wasn't it Turkish for centuries?" Part of the Ottoman Empire up til end of WW1. | |||
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"What I find staggering and astonishing is the level of continuous meddling and interference of the US UK and isreal in the middle East with no regard for unpredictable outcomes (yet again!). The west are only and can only try to treat the symptoms of the Isreal-Gaza conflict, because they refuse to fix the real root cause of the problem.. and play down the genocide in Gaza We have the US blaming Iran for the conflicts, saying that they are behind hesbola, hamas, and houthi actions, yet a us pentagon based hi military ranking then says the Houthi attacks are nothing to do with gaza, even though the houthis stated that they're supporting Gaza by attacking Israeli related shipping. USA UK and Isreal routinely bomb countries in the middle East in a routine basis, and use drones and missiles while not wanting to increase the chance of a regional conflict (yeah right! ) yet when Iran does exactly the same, the Americans condemn the actions. The latest being America is now re-imposing sanctions on Yemen, one of the most poorest countries in the world, and close to starvation, hindering Yemeni forces to deal with the houthis. Brilliant! What a brilliant plan, what could possibly go wrong! Iran has been the conductor of this war, they pushed the button and set the whole thing off. Let's look at what the US have done.. Trump withdrew from the Iran Nuclear deal. Sanctions were applied and Iran's top general Qasem Soleimani was killed in Iraq by US drone. Not exactly on par with Iran I would say. Iran are also angry Israel was building relations with Saudi, making them suffer now. Iran nearly lost control of its people, especially women who dared to show their hair, and rioting after the death of Mahsa Amini by the morality police!! Morality police WTF... Yemen, Syria, Palestine and on and on and on... Iran are destabilising the whole region without getting into direct conflict with the west. They are cowards behind thousands of deaths by proxy. Want to fix the problems in the middle east, fix Iran." Iran has this week launched missile strikes on Pakistan, Iraq and Syria. It has supplied the weapons the Houthis are using on shipping in the red sea, along with attacks on US and UK war ships. They are funding and supplying the weapons to Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon. Iran is the puppet master in the middle east that has created the wars and some instability in the west, today. | |||
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"What I find staggering and astonishing is the level of continuous meddling and interference of the US UK and isreal in the middle East with no regard for unpredictable outcomes (yet again!). The west are only and can only try to treat the symptoms of the Isreal-Gaza conflict, because they refuse to fix the real root cause of the problem.. and play down the genocide in Gaza We have the US blaming Iran for the conflicts, saying that they are behind hesbola, hamas, and houthi actions, yet a us pentagon based hi military ranking then says the Houthi attacks are nothing to do with gaza, even though the houthis stated that they're supporting Gaza by attacking Israeli related shipping. USA UK and Isreal routinely bomb countries in the middle East in a routine basis, and use drones and missiles while not wanting to increase the chance of a regional conflict (yeah right! ) yet when Iran does exactly the same, the Americans condemn the actions. The latest being America is now re-imposing sanctions on Yemen, one of the most poorest countries in the world, and close to starvation, hindering Yemeni forces to deal with the houthis. Brilliant! What a brilliant plan, what could possibly go wrong! Iran has been the conductor of this war, they pushed the button and set the whole thing off. Let's look at what the US have done.. Trump withdrew from the Iran Nuclear deal. Sanctions were applied and Iran's top general Qasem Soleimani was killed in Iraq by US drone. Not exactly on par with Iran I would say. Iran are also angry Israel was building relations with Saudi, making them suffer now. Iran nearly lost control of its people, especially women who dared to show their hair, and rioting after the death of Mahsa Amini by the morality police!! Morality police WTF... Yemen, Syria, Palestine and on and on and on... Iran are destabilising the whole region without getting into direct conflict with the west. They are cowards behind thousands of deaths by proxy. Want to fix the problems in the middle east, fix Iran. Iran has this week launched missile strikes on Pakistan, Iraq and Syria. It has supplied the weapons the Houthis are using on shipping in the red sea, along with attacks on US and UK war ships. They are funding and supplying the weapons to Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon. Iran is the puppet master in the middle east that has created the wars and some instability in the west, today. " so they have attacked two out of three countrys we have pretty much destroyed and im pretfy sure if there was oil under pakistan we would of given them democracy aswell | |||
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"What I find staggering and astonishing is the level of continuous meddling and interference of the US UK and isreal in the middle East with no regard for unpredictable outcomes (yet again!). The west are only and can only try to treat the symptoms of the Isreal-Gaza conflict, because they refuse to fix the real root cause of the problem.. and play down the genocide in Gaza We have the US blaming Iran for the conflicts, saying that they are behind hesbola, hamas, and houthi actions, yet a us pentagon based hi military ranking then says the Houthi attacks are nothing to do with gaza, even though the houthis stated that they're supporting Gaza by attacking Israeli related shipping. USA UK and Isreal routinely bomb countries in the middle East in a routine basis, and use drones and missiles while not wanting to increase the chance of a regional conflict (yeah right! ) yet when Iran does exactly the same, the Americans condemn the actions. The latest being America is now re-imposing sanctions on Yemen, one of the most poorest countries in the world, and close to starvation, hindering Yemeni forces to deal with the houthis. Brilliant! What a brilliant plan, what could possibly go wrong! Iran has been the conductor of this war, they pushed the button and set the whole thing off. Let's look at what the US have done.. Trump withdrew from the Iran Nuclear deal. Sanctions were applied and Iran's top general Qasem Soleimani was killed in Iraq by US drone. Not exactly on par with Iran I would say. Iran are also angry Israel was building relations with Saudi, making them suffer now. Iran nearly lost control of its people, especially women who dared to show their hair, and rioting after the death of Mahsa Amini by the morality police!! Morality police WTF... Yemen, Syria, Palestine and on and on and on... Iran are destabilising the whole region without getting into direct conflict with the west. They are cowards behind thousands of deaths by proxy. Want to fix the problems in the middle east, fix Iran. Iran has this week launched missile strikes on Pakistan, Iraq and Syria. It has supplied the weapons the Houthis are using on shipping in the red sea, along with attacks on US and UK war ships. They are funding and supplying the weapons to Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon. Iran is the puppet master in the middle east that has created the wars and some instability in the west, today. so they have attacked two out of three countrys we have pretty much destroyed and im pretfy sure if there was oil under pakistan we would of given them democracy aswell" You’ve basically ignored everything else but the little snippet that gave you a platform to say what about what we have done…. Amazingly biased view | |||
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"What I find staggering and astonishing is the level of continuous meddling and interference of the US UK and isreal in the middle East with no regard for unpredictable outcomes (yet again!). The west are only and can only try to treat the symptoms of the Isreal-Gaza conflict, because they refuse to fix the real root cause of the problem.. and play down the genocide in Gaza We have the US blaming Iran for the conflicts, saying that they are behind hesbola, hamas, and houthi actions, yet a us pentagon based hi military ranking then says the Houthi attacks are nothing to do with gaza, even though the houthis stated that they're supporting Gaza by attacking Israeli related shipping. USA UK and Isreal routinely bomb countries in the middle East in a routine basis, and use drones and missiles while not wanting to increase the chance of a regional conflict (yeah right! ) yet when Iran does exactly the same, the Americans condemn the actions. The latest being America is now re-imposing sanctions on Yemen, one of the most poorest countries in the world, and close to starvation, hindering Yemeni forces to deal with the houthis. Brilliant! What a brilliant plan, what could possibly go wrong! Iran has been the conductor of this war, they pushed the button and set the whole thing off. Let's look at what the US have done.. Trump withdrew from the Iran Nuclear deal. Sanctions were applied and Iran's top general Qasem Soleimani was killed in Iraq by US drone. Not exactly on par with Iran I would say. Iran are also angry Israel was building relations with Saudi, making them suffer now. Iran nearly lost control of its people, especially women who dared to show their hair, and rioting after the death of Mahsa Amini by the morality police!! Morality police WTF... Yemen, Syria, Palestine and on and on and on... Iran are destabilising the whole region without getting into direct conflict with the west. They are cowards behind thousands of deaths by proxy. Want to fix the problems in the middle east, fix Iran. Iran has this week launched missile strikes on Pakistan, Iraq and Syria. It has supplied the weapons the Houthis are using on shipping in the red sea, along with attacks on US and UK war ships. They are funding and supplying the weapons to Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon. Iran is the puppet master in the middle east that has created the wars and some instability in the west, today. so they have attacked two out of three countrys we have pretty much destroyed and im pretfy sure if there was oil under pakistan we would of given them democracy aswell You’ve basically ignored everything else but the little snippet that gave you a platform to say what about what we have done…. Amazingly biased view" i just think its hypocritical to moan about what iran are doing in the middle east when the uk and u.s hands are smeared in plenty of blood, at least its in there own backyard,ourselves we travel thousands of miles to blow the shit put of countrys, and to be honest with you what you jave to say is just noise to me | |||
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"Israel is committing ethnic cleansing, no matter which way you soon it. S3ttlers are moving into territories and evicting the people who live there. It's been going on for decades and won't stop until the land is purged of the people that spent the last few hundred years or more living there. If this is ok we'd like to see the Roman Empire brought back, spank you very much. " And what have the Romans ever done for us? | |||
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"Israel is committing ethnic cleansing, no matter which way you soon it. S3ttlers are moving into territories and evicting the people who live there. It's been going on for decades and won't stop until the land is purged of the people that spent the last few hundred years or more living there. If this is ok we'd like to see the Roman Empire brought back, spank you very much. Entire USA was taken from native Indians. Biggest gun wins This is why the USA strike fleet is there to supervise and assist with the killing. " Native Americans were wiped out by the nomadic tribes who migrated across the Bering Sea..... | |||
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"Israel is committing ethnic cleansing, no matter which way you soon it. S3ttlers are moving into territories and evicting the people who live there. It's been going on for decades and won't stop until the land is purged of the people that spent the last few hundred years or more living there. If this is ok we'd like to see the Roman Empire brought back, spank you very much. Entire USA was taken from native Indians. Biggest gun wins This is why the USA strike fleet is there to supervise and assist with the killing. Native Americans were wiped out by the nomadic tribes who migrated across the Bering Sea....." Are you okay with the massacre being committed by Isreal? | |||
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"Israel is committing ethnic cleansing, no matter which way you soon it. S3ttlers are moving into territories and evicting the people who live there. It's been going on for decades and won't stop until the land is purged of the people that spent the last few hundred years or more living there. If this is ok we'd like to see the Roman Empire brought back, spank you very much. Entire USA was taken from native Indians. Biggest gun wins This is why the USA strike fleet is there to supervise and assist with the killing. Native Americans were wiped out by the nomadic tribes who migrated across the Bering Sea..... Are you okay with the massacre being committed by Isreal? " Obviously and if it isn't clear enough to anyone, I am appalled by any deaths of innocent civilians committed by either side. I hope that you are too. | |||
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"Israel is committing ethnic cleansing, no matter which way you soon it. S3ttlers are moving into territories and evicting the people who live there. It's been going on for decades and won't stop until the land is purged of the people that spent the last few hundred years or more living there. If this is ok we'd like to see the Roman Empire brought back, spank you very much. Entire USA was taken from native Indians. Biggest gun wins This is why the USA strike fleet is there to supervise and assist with the killing. Native Americans were wiped out by the nomadic tribes who migrated across the Bering Sea..... Are you okay with the massacre being committed by Isreal? Obviously and if it isn't clear enough to anyone, I am appalled by any deaths of innocent civilians committed by either side. I hope that you are too." Okey dokey.. just checking | |||
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"Israel is committing ethnic cleansing, no matter which way you soon it. S3ttlers are moving into territories and evicting the people who live there. It's been going on for decades and won't stop until the land is purged of the people that spent the last few hundred years or more living there. If this is ok we'd like to see the Roman Empire brought back, spank you very much. Entire USA was taken from native Indians. Biggest gun wins This is why the USA strike fleet is there to supervise and assist with the killing. Native Americans were wiped out by the nomadic tribes who migrated across the Bering Sea..... Are you okay with the massacre being committed by Isreal? Obviously and if it isn't clear enough to anyone, I am appalled by any deaths of innocent civilians committed by either side. I hope that you are too. Okey dokey.. just checking " So was I and you failed to answer...one last chance are you? | |||
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"Hammas totally fucked up. The level of violence by these 'animals' was abhorent: They thought they could pull Iran into the conflict. Luckily for them, they bottled it. I have no issues in Israel, bulldozing what's left of Gaza into the Med. That way, if they ever think of trying anything similar. They might just think what happened previously and stop. But doubtful, as this has been going on for many years." Hamas aren't the entire population of Gaza though. What about the innocent palisitinian civilians? Hamas don't have 100% support from them either | |||
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" Hamas aren't the entire population of Gaza though. What about the innocent palisitinian civilians? Hamas don't have 100% support from them either " Are you suggesting that Hamas are not representative of Gazans, not widely supported by Gazans and are not innocent/justified? How would you contrast that with Israelis and their current government? | |||
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" Hamas aren't the entire population of Gaza though. What about the innocent palisitinian civilians? Hamas don't have 100% support from them either Are you suggesting that Hamas are not representative of Gazans, not widely supported by Gazans and are not innocent/justified? How would you contrast that with Israelis and their current government?" Netanyahu has support at the moment but he and his government are deeply unpopular.. Once this phase is over they will be held to account for the disastrous failures of the intelligence services etc in missing what they knew and what they should have done differently.. | |||
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" Hamas aren't the entire population of Gaza though. What about the innocent palisitinian civilians? Hamas don't have 100% support from them either Are you suggesting that Hamas are not representative of Gazans, not widely supported by Gazans and are not innocent/justified? How would you contrast that with Israelis and their current government?" A out the same. Esp. after huge demonstrations by isrealis against the Isreali government rules to overrule high courts. Plus some Jewish around the world demonstrating against the genocide with "not in my name " t shirts | |||
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"Hammas totally fucked up. The level of violence by these 'animals' was abhorent: They thought they could pull Iran into the conflict. Luckily for them, they bottled it. I have no issues in Israel, bulldozing what's left of Gaza into the Med. That way, if they ever think of trying anything similar. They might just think what happened previously and stop. But doubtful, as this has been going on for many years." why not the west bank too ? | |||
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"Hammas totally fucked up. The level of violence by these 'animals' was abhorent: They thought they could pull Iran into the conflict. Luckily for them, they bottled it. I have no issues in Israel, bulldozing what's left of Gaza into the Med. That way, if they ever think of trying anything similar. They might just think what happened previously and stop. But doubtful, as this has been going on for many years." "Hamas fucked up" ... "These Animal" "I support Israel committing a genocide in Gaza" Talking like a true animal yourself. | |||
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"Hammas totally fucked up. The level of violence by these 'animals' was abhorent: They thought they could pull Iran into the conflict. Luckily for them, they bottled it. I have no issues in Israel, bulldozing what's left of Gaza into the Med. That way, if they ever think of trying anything similar. They might just think what happened previously and stop. But doubtful, as this has been going on for many years. Hamas aren't the entire population of Gaza though. What about the innocent palisitinian civilians? Hamas don't have 100% support from them either " Now imagine 2 Palestinians were chatting online and one of them was suggesting that the Murder of un-armed Israeli settlers was justifiable because they support the Terrorist Genocidal IDF? The screenshots of their exchange would be in every western Media for years. Strangely enough this is ok in the western world. Once in the dark ages, always in the dark ages. Only difference between now and 600 years ago is the amount of wealth pirated from defeated nations to look and sound civilised. | |||
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"Hammas totally fucked up. The level of violence by these 'animals' was abhorent: They thought they could pull Iran into the conflict. Luckily for them, they bottled it. I have no issues in Israel, bulldozing what's left of Gaza into the Med. That way, if they ever think of trying anything similar. They might just think what happened previously and stop. But doubtful, as this has been going on for many years. Hamas aren't the entire population of Gaza though. What about the innocent palisitinian civilians? Hamas don't have 100% support from them either Now imagine 2 Palestinians were chatting online and one of them was suggesting that the Murder of un-armed Israeli settlers was justifiable because they support the Terrorist Genocidal IDF? The screenshots of their exchange would be in every western Media for years. Strangely enough this is ok in the western world. Once in the dark ages, always in the dark ages. Only difference between now and 600 years ago is the amount of wealth pirated from defeated nations to look and sound civilised. " The first part.. any civilians deciding to take part in a conflict, surrenders their protection as civilians, can be arrested or a last resort, use lethal force against them. My understanding of it that is As to the rest of your post , I dont follow | |||
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"Hammas totally fucked up. The level of violence by these 'animals' was abhorent: They thought they could pull Iran into the conflict. Luckily for them, they bottled it. I have no issues in Israel, bulldozing what's left of Gaza into the Med. That way, if they ever think of trying anything similar. They might just think what happened previously and stop. But doubtful, as this has been going on for many years." What your saying is obviously genocide and ethnic cleansing,. And morally wrong! | |||
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"Hammas totally fucked up. The level of violence by these 'animals' was abhorent: They thought they could pull Iran into the conflict. Luckily for them, they bottled it. I have no issues in Israel, bulldozing what's left of Gaza into the Med. That way, if they ever think of trying anything similar. They might just think what happened previously and stop. But doubtful, as this has been going on for many years. What your saying is obviously genocide and ethnic cleansing,. And morally wrong!" The rest meaning if anyone anywhere in social media was suggesting or insinuating an ethnic cleansing of Jews or other western protected group they will banned and cancelled online. Millions of people have been cancelled for much less. But when it comes to Muslims or Middle eastern or Africans it's a normal talk on social media. | |||
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"Hammas totally fucked up. The level of violence by these 'animals' was abhorent: They thought they could pull Iran into the conflict. Luckily for them, they bottled it. I have no issues in Israel, bulldozing what's left of Gaza into the Med. That way, if they ever think of trying anything similar. They might just think what happened previously and stop. But doubtful, as this has been going on for many years. What your saying is obviously genocide and ethnic cleansing,. And morally wrong! The rest meaning if anyone anywhere in social media was suggesting or insinuating an ethnic cleansing of Jews or other western protected group they will banned and cancelled online. Millions of people have been cancelled for much less. But when it comes to Muslims or Middle eastern or Africans it's a normal talk on social media." Yes I agree fully agree with you. | |||
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"Hammas totally fucked up. The level of violence by these 'animals' was abhorent: They thought they could pull Iran into the conflict. Luckily for them, they bottled it. I have no issues in Israel, bulldozing what's left of Gaza into the Med. That way, if they ever think of trying anything similar. They might just think what happened previously and stop. But doubtful, as this has been going on for many years. What your saying is obviously genocide and ethnic cleansing,. And morally wrong!" No I'm not. I'm saying that if you decide to take on the Israelis. You will get your ass handed to you. Maybe next time the neanderthals decide to invade Israel and take their citizens. In the hope they could drag Iran into supporting their atrocities.They will remember that Gaza was levelled in direct retaliation. | |||
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"Hammas totally fucked up. The level of violence by these 'animals' was abhorent: They thought they could pull Iran into the conflict. Luckily for them, they bottled it. I have no issues in Israel, bulldozing what's left of Gaza into the Med. That way, if they ever think of trying anything similar. They might just think what happened previously and stop. But doubtful, as this has been going on for many years. What your saying is obviously genocide and ethnic cleansing,. And morally wrong! No I'm not. I'm saying that if you decide to take on the Israelis. You will get your ass handed to you. Maybe next time the neanderthals decide to invade Israel and take their citizens. In the hope they could drag Iran into supporting their atrocities.They will remember that Gaza was levelled in direct retaliation." It's clear you haven't any understanding | |||
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"Hammas totally fucked up. The level of violence by these 'animals' was abhorent: They thought they could pull Iran into the conflict. Luckily for them, they bottled it. I have no issues in Israel, bulldozing what's left of Gaza into the Med. That way, if they ever think of trying anything similar. They might just think what happened previously and stop. But doubtful, as this has been going on for many years. What your saying is obviously genocide and ethnic cleansing,. And morally wrong! No I'm not. I'm saying that if you decide to take on the Israelis. You will get your ass handed to you. Maybe next time the neanderthals decide to invade Israel and take their citizens. In the hope they could drag Iran into supporting their atrocities.They will remember that Gaza was levelled in direct retaliation." The 15000 kids and babies bombed to pieces by you brave Courageous civilised Israelis are Neanderthal babies and animals? And the 2 million at the brink of death through thirst, Starvation and disease that you've suggested to be thrown to the sea are also Neanderthals and anim | |||
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"The 15000 kids and babies bombed to pieces by you brave Courageous civilised Israelis are Neanderthal babies and animals? And the 2 million at the brink of death through thirst, Starvation and disease that you've suggested to be thrown to the sea are also Neanderthals and anim " These 15000 kids and babies you mentioned. If they were alive. How many would Hammas have employed deep in the tunnels under a hospital. Manufacturing missiles on a production line, which Henry Ford would have been proud of? The people of Gaza need to understand you cannot back terrorism and then get all upset when Israel decides enough is enough and decide to level the place. | |||
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"The 15000 kids and babies bombed to pieces by you brave Courageous civilised Israelis are Neanderthal babies and animals? And the 2 million at the brink of death through thirst, Starvation and disease that you've suggested to be thrown to the sea are also Neanderthals and anim These 15000 kids and babies you mentioned. If they were alive. How many would Hammas have employed deep in the tunnels under a hospital. Manufacturing missiles on a production line, which Henry Ford would have been proud of? The people of Gaza need to understand you cannot back terrorism and then get all upset when Israel decides enough is enough and decide to level the place." Are you suggesting that it's good to mass murder kids and babies, incase they do something bad later in life based on your prejudices? That's probably not a good policy for the human race to take up. | |||
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