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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. " What makes you say its a bribe?and what is the bribe for ? | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. What makes you say its a bribe?and what is the bribe for ?" When the uk offered them.cthey were called bribes | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. What makes you say its a bribe?and what is the bribe for ? When the uk offered them.cthey were called bribes" When the uk offered bribes they were called bribes ? Nah youv lost me | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. What makes you say its a bribe?and what is the bribe for ? When the uk offered them.cthey were called bribes When the uk offered bribes they were called bribes ? Nah youv lost me " Jesus it hasn't taken much to confuse you When the uk offered grants and subsidies.people on this forum called them bribes. When the e u offers them at double the amount. We dont hear a single thing. | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. What makes you say its a bribe?and what is the bribe for ? When the uk offered them.cthey were called bribes When the uk offered bribes they were called bribes ? Nah youv lost me Jesus it hasn't taken much to confuse you When the uk offered grants and subsidies.people on this forum called them bribes. When the e u offers them at double the amount. We dont hear a single thing." Your not very bright are you,as grants and subsidies arent bribes are they?  | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. " Are you obsessed with trying to prove that the EU are some kind of bad guys? Every time I come on here there is a post from you trying to point out how bad the EU (or an EU country) is. It must be such hard work to be trying so hard to keep justifying why you voted for Brexit. You are on of just 12% seemingly who are still flying the flag lol | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. Are you obsessed with trying to prove that the EU are some kind of bad guys? Every time I come on here there is a post from you trying to point out how bad the EU (or an EU country) is. It must be such hard work to be trying so hard to keep justifying why you voted for Brexit. You are on of just 12% seemingly who are still flying the flag lol" The last few Brexit die hards are trying to find something that justifies their belief that leaving the EU was a good idea, no matter how tenuous. | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. Are you obsessed with trying to prove that the EU are some kind of bad guys? Every time I come on here there is a post from you trying to point out how bad the EU (or an EU country) is. It must be such hard work to be trying so hard to keep justifying why you voted for Brexit. You are on of just 12% seemingly who are still flying the flag lol" He does raise a valid point. When there was news about UK paying money to Nissan, I remember threads created on here telling us how it's a bribe and we have to do it because of Brexit. Now that the EU also does the same thing, it would be nice to hear from those people if this is still a bribe and if Brexit is still the cause of UK paying Nissan. But the only reply seems to be "You are a brexit supporter posting anti-EU stuff" | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. Are you obsessed with trying to prove that the EU are some kind of bad guys? Every time I come on here there is a post from you trying to point out how bad the EU (or an EU country) is. It must be such hard work to be trying so hard to keep justifying why you voted for Brexit. You are on of just 12% seemingly who are still flying the flag lol He does raise a valid point. When there was news about UK paying money to Nissan, I remember threads created on here telling us how it's a bribe and we have to do it because of Brexit. Now that the EU also does the same thing, it would be nice to hear from those people if this is still a bribe and if Brexit is still the cause of UK paying Nissan. But the only reply seems to be "You are a brexit supporter posting anti-EU stuff"" Why would you expect people to care equally about what goes on outside of the UK, as to what goes on inside the UK? | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. Are you obsessed with trying to prove that the EU are some kind of bad guys? Every time I come on here there is a post from you trying to point out how bad the EU (or an EU country) is. It must be such hard work to be trying so hard to keep justifying why you voted for Brexit. You are on of just 12% seemingly who are still flying the flag lol He does raise a valid point. When there was news about UK paying money to Nissan, I remember threads created on here telling us how it's a bribe and we have to do it because of Brexit. Now that the EU also does the same thing, it would be nice to hear from those people if this is still a bribe and if Brexit is still the cause of UK paying Nissan. But the only reply seems to be "You are a brexit supporter posting anti-EU stuff"" theres two points here. From a quick skim, one guy brought up bribes in the last thread. I suspect he'd call this a bribe as seemed anti any intervention. (is that true right wing economics). He also didn't vote, so not sure if he had a Brexit view! (As with twitter, you can probably find at least one person with a given view here!) Second is that Brexit resulted in the subsidy being needed. No idea who said this and agree there is something to defend here for those who said it. | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. Are you obsessed with trying to prove that the EU are some kind of bad guys? Every time I come on here there is a post from you trying to point out how bad the EU (or an EU country) is. It must be such hard work to be trying so hard to keep justifying why you voted for Brexit. You are on of just 12% seemingly who are still flying the flag lol He does raise a valid point. When there was news about UK paying money to Nissan, I remember threads created on here telling us how it's a bribe and we have to do it because of Brexit. Now that the EU also does the same thing, it would be nice to hear from those people if this is still a bribe and if Brexit is still the cause of UK paying Nissan. But the only reply seems to be "You are a brexit supporter posting anti-EU stuff"theres two points here. From a quick skim, one guy brought up bribes in the last thread. I suspect he'd call this a bribe as seemed anti any intervention. (is that true right wing economics). He also didn't vote, so not sure if he had a Brexit view! (As with twitter, you can probably find at least one person with a given view here!) Second is that Brexit resulted in the subsidy being needed. No idea who said this and agree there is something to defend here for those who said it. " Yes it depends on the reason why a subsidy is given. If a company does terribly and the government tries to save it from going under, it goes completely against libertarian economics. If a company cannot sustain itself, there is a reason for it and it should go down. But if a company is thinking about opening a factory and multiple governments are competing with each other to attract them, it's probably fine. It's just competition. As long as the return of investment is higher, it should be ok. If the subsidy is higher than what the country gets out of it, then it's a poor choice. | |||
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"The UK did bribe Nissan. It happens all the time in all countries. Find ways to incentivise a business to set up or remain in a country. Countries in the EU do it too. Criticising these things is not mutually exclusive. What actually matters is the net return to the country. If that country provides incentives to the business to the value of X then there needs to be a positive return of Y where Y is greater than X. That’s good investment." Also … Sunderland was in the EU regeneration zone.. so also got EU money! I am not complaining…. Because most of the Newcastle/gateshead quayside is built on EU regeneration money! | |||
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"The UK did bribe Nissan. It happens all the time in all countries. Find ways to incentivise a business to set up or remain in a country. Countries in the EU do it too. Criticising these things is not mutually exclusive. What actually matters is the net return to the country. If that country provides incentives to the business to the value of X then there needs to be a positive return of Y where Y is greater than X. That’s good investment. Also … Sunderland was in the EU regeneration zone.. so also got EU money! I am not complaining…. Because most of the Newcastle/gateshead quayside is built on EU regeneration money! " But think of all the billions of inward investment in regeneration now the UK doesn't waste money being in the EU | |||
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"The UK did bribe Nissan. It happens all the time in all countries. Find ways to incentivise a business to set up or remain in a country. Countries in the EU do it too. Criticising these things is not mutually exclusive. What actually matters is the net return to the country. If that country provides incentives to the business to the value of X then there needs to be a positive return of Y where Y is greater than X. That’s good investment. Also … Sunderland was in the EU regeneration zone.. so also got EU money! I am not complaining…. Because most of the Newcastle/gateshead quayside is built on EU regeneration money! But think of all the billions of inward investment in regeneration now the UK doesn't waste money being in the EU" If that was the case you would wonder why the uk government didn’t just put in the whole lot in the first place… Nissan in Sunderland is the classic example Hitachi train factory which puts together all those new uk high speed trains in newton aycliffe is another… | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. Are you obsessed with trying to prove that the EU are some kind of bad guys? Every time I come on here there is a post from you trying to point out how bad the EU (or an EU country) is. It must be such hard work to be trying so hard to keep justifying why you voted for Brexit. You are on of just 12% seemingly who are still flying the flag lol He does raise a valid point. When there was news about UK paying money to Nissan, I remember threads created on here telling us how it's a bribe and we have to do it because of Brexit. Now that the EU also does the same thing, it would be nice to hear from those people if this is still a bribe and if Brexit is still the cause of UK paying Nissan. But the only reply seems to be "You are a brexit supporter posting anti-EU stuff" Why would you expect people to care equally about what goes on outside of the UK, as to what goes on inside the UK?" Because it would be pretty hypocritical to want to be part of the EU without caring what happens in the EU? | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. Are you obsessed with trying to prove that the EU are some kind of bad guys? Every time I come on here there is a post from you trying to point out how bad the EU (or an EU country) is. It must be such hard work to be trying so hard to keep justifying why you voted for Brexit. You are on of just 12% seemingly who are still flying the flag lol He does raise a valid point. When there was news about UK paying money to Nissan, I remember threads created on here telling us how it's a bribe and we have to do it because of Brexit. Now that the EU also does the same thing, it would be nice to hear from those people if this is still a bribe and if Brexit is still the cause of UK paying Nissan. But the only reply seems to be "You are a brexit supporter posting anti-EU stuff" Why would you expect people to care equally about what goes on outside of the UK, as to what goes on inside the UK? Because it would be pretty hypocritical to want to be part of the EU without caring what happens in the EU?" Fair enough. Although not sure that the OP wants to be a part of the EU anytime soon! Personally I can see why people are more concerned about what our government does with our tax money than what some other people are doing somewhere else. | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. Are you obsessed with trying to prove that the EU are some kind of bad guys? Every time I come on here there is a post from you trying to point out how bad the EU (or an EU country) is. It must be such hard work to be trying so hard to keep justifying why you voted for Brexit. You are on of just 12% seemingly who are still flying the flag lol He does raise a valid point. When there was news about UK paying money to Nissan, I remember threads created on here telling us how it's a bribe and we have to do it because of Brexit. Now that the EU also does the same thing, it would be nice to hear from those people if this is still a bribe and if Brexit is still the cause of UK paying Nissan. But the only reply seems to be "You are a brexit supporter posting anti-EU stuff" Why would you expect people to care equally about what goes on outside of the UK, as to what goes on inside the UK? Because it would be pretty hypocritical to want to be part of the EU without caring what happens in the EU? Fair enough. Although not sure that the OP wants to be a part of the EU anytime soon! Personally I can see why people are more concerned about what our government does with our tax money than what some other people are doing somewhere else." When our government did that with our tax money, people were specifically complaining about Brexit and how such things won't be necessary if we were in the EU. OP just pointed out that the EU does pretty much the same thing. | |||
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"The UK did bribe Nissan. It happens all the time in all countries. Find ways to incentivise a business to set up or remain in a country. Countries in the EU do it too. Criticising these things is not mutually exclusive. What actually matters is the net return to the country. If that country provides incentives to the business to the value of X then there needs to be a positive return of Y where Y is greater than X. That’s good investment." This…. Besides Nissan in Sunderland, hitachi in newton aycliffe and Newcastle/gateshead city centre which have already been mentioned… here are some other projects that have been beneficiaries of EU regeneration money… not the entire list but some of the more famous ones Manchester metrolink extensions and media city in Salford Liverpool airport Belfast George best airport Midlands metro Edinburgh borders rail line Belfast to Dublin railway line Docklands light railway Sheffield supertram Nottingham net…. The Eden project | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. Are you obsessed with trying to prove that the EU are some kind of bad guys? Every time I come on here there is a post from you trying to point out how bad the EU (or an EU country) is. It must be such hard work to be trying so hard to keep justifying why you voted for Brexit. You are on of just 12% seemingly who are still flying the flag lol He does raise a valid point. When there was news about UK paying money to Nissan, I remember threads created on here telling us how it's a bribe and we have to do it because of Brexit. Now that the EU also does the same thing, it would be nice to hear from those people if this is still a bribe and if Brexit is still the cause of UK paying Nissan. But the only reply seems to be "You are a brexit supporter posting anti-EU stuff" Why would you expect people to care equally about what goes on outside of the UK, as to what goes on inside the UK? Because it would be pretty hypocritical to want to be part of the EU without caring what happens in the EU? Fair enough. Although not sure that the OP wants to be a part of the EU anytime soon! Personally I can see why people are more concerned about what our government does with our tax money than what some other people are doing somewhere else. When our government did that with our tax money, people were specifically complaining about Brexit and how such things won't be necessary if we were in the EU. OP just pointed out that the EU does pretty much the same thing." Also fair enough. I was specifically answering the point "When there was news about UK paying money to Nissan, I remember threads created on here telling us how it's a bribe and we have to do it because of Brexit. Now that the EU also does the same thing, it would be nice to hear from those people if this is still a bribe and if Brexit is still the cause of UK paying Nissan." | |||
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"The UK did bribe Nissan. It happens all the time in all countries. Find ways to incentivise a business to set up or remain in a country. Countries in the EU do it too. Criticising these things is not mutually exclusive. What actually matters is the net return to the country. If that country provides incentives to the business to the value of X then there needs to be a positive return of Y where Y is greater than X. That’s good investment. This…. Besides Nissan in Sunderland, hitachi in newton aycliffe and Newcastle/gateshead city centre which have already been mentioned… here are some other projects that have been beneficiaries of EU regeneration money… not the entire list but some of the more famous ones Manchester metrolink extensions and media city in Salford Liverpool airport Belfast George best airport Midlands metro Edinburgh borders rail line Belfast to Dublin railway line Docklands light railway Sheffield supertram Nottingham net…. The Eden project " EU regeneration money is just our own money. The UK was a net contributer meaning we pay more in than what we received. | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. Are you obsessed with trying to prove that the EU are some kind of bad guys? Every time I come on here there is a post from you trying to point out how bad the EU (or an EU country) is. It must be such hard work to be trying so hard to keep justifying why you voted for Brexit. You are on of just 12% seemingly who are still flying the flag lol He does raise a valid point. When there was news about UK paying money to Nissan, I remember threads created on here telling us how it's a bribe and we have to do it because of Brexit. Now that the EU also does the same thing, it would be nice to hear from those people if this is still a bribe and if Brexit is still the cause of UK paying Nissan. But the only reply seems to be "You are a brexit supporter posting anti-EU stuff" Why would you expect people to care equally about what goes on outside of the UK, as to what goes on inside the UK? Because it would be pretty hypocritical to want to be part of the EU without caring what happens in the EU? Fair enough. Although not sure that the OP wants to be a part of the EU anytime soon! Personally I can see why people are more concerned about what our government does with our tax money than what some other people are doing somewhere else." Ye completely get that as well but some spending like subsidies can't really be looked at in isolation. As for the OP even though it looks like he's anti EU he also would be a hypocrit if he didn't know what the EU is doing or why he voted against remaining part of it. | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. Are you obsessed with trying to prove that the EU are some kind of bad guys? Every time I come on here there is a post from you trying to point out how bad the EU (or an EU country) is. It must be such hard work to be trying so hard to keep justifying why you voted for Brexit. You are on of just 12% seemingly who are still flying the flag lol He does raise a valid point. When there was news about UK paying money to Nissan, I remember threads created on here telling us how it's a bribe and we have to do it because of Brexit. Now that the EU also does the same thing, it would be nice to hear from those people if this is still a bribe and if Brexit is still the cause of UK paying Nissan. But the only reply seems to be "You are a brexit supporter posting anti-EU stuff"" On the various Nissan threads it was pointed out that subsidies are standard behaviour all over the place. One former poster even boasted that the UK could not even hope to compete with subsidies with other places. It seems that when the UK does compete successfully the terminology quickly changes to bribes. | |||
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"There's was a thread in here a while back claiming that UK was bribing car companies like Nissan with subsidies. I am surprised to see there is no thread today about e.u granting Germany a 900m bribe. Btw another brexit benefit. The uk can offer bribes (grants without requesting e.u permission. Are you obsessed with trying to prove that the EU are some kind of bad guys? Every time I come on here there is a post from you trying to point out how bad the EU (or an EU country) is. It must be such hard work to be trying so hard to keep justifying why you voted for Brexit. You are on of just 12% seemingly who are still flying the flag lol He does raise a valid point. When there was news about UK paying money to Nissan, I remember threads created on here telling us how it's a bribe and we have to do it because of Brexit. Now that the EU also does the same thing, it would be nice to hear from those people if this is still a bribe and if Brexit is still the cause of UK paying Nissan. But the only reply seems to be "You are a brexit supporter posting anti-EU stuff" On the various Nissan threads it was pointed out that subsidies are standard behaviour all over the place. One former poster even boasted that the UK could not even hope to compete with subsidies with other places. It seems that when the UK does compete successfully the terminology quickly changes to bribes." Exactly! That's what I remember reading too. | |||
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"The UK did bribe Nissan. It happens all the time in all countries. Find ways to incentivise a business to set up or remain in a country. Countries in the EU do it too. Criticising these things is not mutually exclusive. What actually matters is the net return to the country. If that country provides incentives to the business to the value of X then there needs to be a positive return of Y where Y is greater than X. That’s good investment. This…. Besides Nissan in Sunderland, hitachi in newton aycliffe and Newcastle/gateshead city centre which have already been mentioned… here are some other projects that have been beneficiaries of EU regeneration money… not the entire list but some of the more famous ones Manchester metrolink extensions and media city in Salford Liverpool airport Belfast George best airport Midlands metro Edinburgh borders rail line Belfast to Dublin railway line Docklands light railway Sheffield supertram Nottingham net…. The Eden project EU regeneration money is just our own money. The UK was a net contributer meaning we pay more in than what we received." But if all those projects were so valuable to the UK then why did they wait on the EU and the regeneration funding lottery to get money, surely the UK government would have have funded it themselves rather than leaving them in a potential mess … Cardiff bay… another eu regeneration funded project… | |||
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"Sorry but I'm against all forms of market interference, restriction, coercion, monolpoy or any other form of tampering. . Whether that is from the UK to overseas, or other nations overseas to the UK, or elsewhere. . Boil it right down to the very basics, and it's almost always tax-paxer money being used to provide "corporate welfare" to enrichen a minority in the guise of "increased employment, more opportunity, blah blah blah". . Businesses with business plans that can only work if hosed with grants and subsidies. That need tax-payer life support to be viable. . Rishi said about cutting the "Welfare Bill". This is a prime place to start. Corporate Welfare. . I'm cool with equity from private financiers. That's private money from investors. (Provided they don't add "conditions" like "If we build this GigaFactory here, can you disincentivise our closest competitor from building their own Gigafactory down the road". That "distorts" a free and fair market, and harms the consumer. " It's an idea but you would need every country in the world to agree to this which could be tricky. Regarding gigafactories I think that was another one from last year where both the UK and EU offered subsidies to attract its location. | |||
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"The UK did bribe Nissan. It happens all the time in all countries. Find ways to incentivise a business to set up or remain in a country. Countries in the EU do it too. Criticising these things is not mutually exclusive. What actually matters is the net return to the country. If that country provides incentives to the business to the value of X then there needs to be a positive return of Y where Y is greater than X. That’s good investment." So the you agree. Remainers call uk incentives bribes and e.u incentives incentives. | |||
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"Subsidiaries that would prevent competition and distort a single market are illegal under EU law. It's also illegal to discriminate against a fellow member country. Some subsidies are allowed such as for heritage conservation. All the money given directly by the EU is disclosed in the EU Financial Transparency System. The FTS is public and searchable. It's run by the European Commission. Regional development and farming are the top two expenses of the EU. Together they amount to 2/3 of the budget. The total EU budget is still small compared to most national budgets. It's limited to less than 2% of Europe's Gross National Income (GNI)." Subsidies aren't illegal under e.u law. | |||
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"The UK did bribe Nissan. It happens all the time in all countries. Find ways to incentivise a business to set up or remain in a country. Countries in the EU do it too. Criticising these things is not mutually exclusive. What actually matters is the net return to the country. If that country provides incentives to the business to the value of X then there needs to be a positive return of Y where Y is greater than X. That’s good investment. So the you agree. Remainers call uk incentives bribes and e.u incentives incentives." I can’t agree to a sweeping statement like that because I don’t know c.16million people! I can agree SOME have in the past for sure. | |||
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"The UK did bribe Nissan. It happens all the time in all countries. Find ways to incentivise a business to set up or remain in a country. Countries in the EU do it too. Criticising these things is not mutually exclusive. What actually matters is the net return to the country. If that country provides incentives to the business to the value of X then there needs to be a positive return of Y where Y is greater than X. That’s good investment. So the you agree. Remainers call uk incentives bribes and e.u incentives incentives. I can’t agree to a sweeping statement like that because I don’t know c.16million people! I can agree SOME have in the past for sure." I can't get my head around why the e.u allowing 900m subsidy is fine. Yet the uk allowing 100m in subsidies is frowned on Is it that people can't rake their blinkers off? Also another brexit benefit. Despite some saying incorrectly subsidies are illegal in tbe e.u ( they arent) the uk doesn't have to wait for the e.u to grant them now. | |||
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"The UK did bribe Nissan. It happens all the time in all countries. Find ways to incentivise a business to set up or remain in a country. Countries in the EU do it too. Criticising these things is not mutually exclusive. What actually matters is the net return to the country. If that country provides incentives to the business to the value of X then there needs to be a positive return of Y where Y is greater than X. That’s good investment. So the you agree. Remainers call uk incentives bribes and e.u incentives incentives. I can’t agree to a sweeping statement like that because I don’t know c.16million people! I can agree SOME have in the past for sure. I can't get my head around why the e.u allowing 900m subsidy is fine. Yet the uk allowing 100m in subsidies is frowned on Is it that people can't rake their blinkers off? Also another brexit benefit. Despite some saying incorrectly subsidies are illegal in tbe e.u ( they arent) the uk doesn't have to wait for the e.u to grant them now." Morley for the love of Fab when will you treat yourself to a new phone? You must be on a tidy wedge so what’s the hold up! Or at least get your screen/autocorrect sorted (you told me that months ago!) | |||
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