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"Today in the mirror a couple of Labour MPs call for Farage to be kicked out of the jungle because they don't like him
With an election looming, don't the have better things to be concentrating on? "But there's no such thing as cancel culture either apparently. | |||
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"Today in the mirror a couple of Labour MPs call for Farage to be kicked out of the jungle because they don't like him
With an election looming, don't the have better things to be concentrating on?
But there's no such thing as cancel culture either apparently."The inclusive progressive labour party, closing down speech, surely not
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"Today in the mirror a couple of Labour MPs call for Farage to be kicked out of the jungle because they don't like him
With an election looming, don't the have better things to be concentrating on?
But there's no such thing as cancel culture either apparently.
The inclusive progressive labour party, closing down speech, surely not
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"Today in the mirror a couple of Labour MPs call for Farage to be kicked out of the jungle because they don't like him
With an election looming, don't the have better things to be concentrating on? "That's being a bit disingenuous with the facts and peddling your own narrative. Report it what is known, from what the 2 MP's themselves said. Labour’s Nadia Whittome said: “ITV should never have given him a platform to launder his reputation and I would urge anyone considering voting to keep him on to think twice. From the racist undertones of his Brexit campaigning, to the climate denialism he’s pushed, Farage is not some affable clown but a poisonous influence on our society.” . MP Kim Johnson added: “People should remember where Farage came from, what he’s said and what he’s been responsible for. It was him who helped peddle that racist narrative. In 2016, we saw a hike in race hate crime as a result. The fact he’s reportedly been paid £1.5million is just atrocious. Kick him out of there so he doesn’t get airtime. Whether you agree or not with their personal opinions is a moot point. Reporting what they said and genuinely reflecting their publicly-stated views is what matters. | |||
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"Today in the mirror a couple of Labour MPs call for Farage to be kicked out of the jungle because they don't like him
With an election looming, don't the have better things to be concentrating on?
That's being a bit disingenuous with the facts and peddling your own narrative.
Report it what is known, from what the 2 MP's themselves said.
Labour’s Nadia Whittome said: “ITV should never have given him a platform to launder his reputation and I would urge anyone considering voting to keep him on to think twice. From the racist undertones of his Brexit campaigning, to the climate denialism he’s pushed, Farage is not some affable clown but a poisonous influence on our society.”
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MP Kim Johnson added: “People should remember where Farage came from, what he’s said and what he’s been responsible for. It was him who helped peddle that racist narrative. In 2016, we saw a hike in race hate crime as a result. The fact he’s reportedly been paid £1.5million is just atrocious. Kick him out of there so he doesn’t get airtime.
Whether you agree or not with their personal opinions is a moot point. Reporting what they said and genuinely reflecting their publicly-stated views is what matters."One said kick him out and one said he should never be there, people shouldn't vote for him. Their reasoning? They don't like his views/him. Pretty sure I got it right in the first place. | |||
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"Today in the mirror a couple of Labour MPs call for Farage to be kicked out of the jungle because they don't like him
With an election looming, don't the have better things to be concentrating on?
That's being a bit disingenuous with the facts and peddling your own narrative.
Report it what is known, from what the 2 MP's themselves said.
Labour’s Nadia Whittome said: “ITV should never have given him a platform to launder his reputation and I would urge anyone considering voting to keep him on to think twice. From the racist undertones of his Brexit campaigning, to the climate denialism he’s pushed, Farage is not some affable clown but a poisonous influence on our society.”
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MP Kim Johnson added: “People should remember where Farage came from, what he’s said and what he’s been responsible for. It was him who helped peddle that racist narrative. In 2016, we saw a hike in race hate crime as a result. The fact he’s reportedly been paid £1.5million is just atrocious. Kick him out of there so he doesn’t get airtime.
Whether you agree or not with their personal opinions is a moot point. Reporting what they said and genuinely reflecting their publicly-stated views is what matters."What I’m taking out of that is both MP’s are asking people to remove his airtime and therefore his voice because they don’t like what has to say, and really can’t understand what he has to say. This is what I’ve come accustomed to from the progressive left. | |||
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" What I’m taking out of that is both MP’s are asking people to remove his airtime and therefore his voice because they don’t like what has to say, and really can’t understand what he has to say. This is what I’ve come accustomed to from the progressive left. " Be fair. They gave their reasoning for their opinions. You have the freedom to see their point of view or chose not to/disagree. . I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views ? Where is the line ? (I'm sure there is one, in legal terms). | |||
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" What I’m taking out of that is both MP’s are asking people to remove his airtime and therefore his voice because they don’t like what has to say, and really can’t understand what he has to say. This is what I’ve come accustomed to from the progressive left. Be fair. They gave their reasoning for their opinions. You have the freedom to see their point of view or chose not to/disagree. . I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views ? Where is the line ? (I'm sure there is one, in legal terms)." What has he said that would justify him not being allowed a voice on national tv? | |||
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" What I’m taking out of that is both MP’s are asking people to remove his airtime and therefore his voice because they don’t like what has to say, and really can’t understand what he has to say. This is what I’ve come accustomed to from the progressive left. Be fair. They gave their reasoning for their opinions. You have the freedom to see their point of view or chose not to/disagree. . I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views ? Where is the line ? (I'm sure there is one, in legal terms)." Should MPs be giving their opinion and trying to 'cancel' someone on a reality TV show? Someone who doesn't have any convictions that is. Why shouldn't someone be given airtime from a private company just because someone may find their views distasteful? This is exactly what 'cancel culture' is. | |||
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"I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views ?" The answer of course is "yes". The only way to determine what's right and what isn't, is to have an open debate where all sides are heard, and those that have poor arguments will be seen as such. But if you think the answer is "no", the next question would be - who gets to decide what is distasteful/questionable? Would you be happy with a ban on all discussion of, say, homosexuality if the moral guardian decrees that it is distasteful? | |||
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"Is it cancel culture when part of the show is to vote people out? " "I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views?" You don't thunk this is cancel culture? | |||
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"Is it cancel culture when part of the show is to vote people out? "I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views?" You don't thunk this is cancel culture?" wasnt that a fab quote ? Or were the quoting labour? Not putting someone on because of their views... Can be seen as cancel culture. We do need to be aware that this works in all directions. Voting someone out because of their views... A bit tasteless but as valid as many reasons. | |||
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"Is it cancel culture when part of the show is to vote people out? "I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views?" You don't thunk this is cancel culture?wasnt that a fab quote ? Or were the quoting labour? Not putting someone on because of their views... Can be seen as cancel culture. We do need to be aware that this works in all directions. Voting someone out because of their views... A bit tasteless but as valid as many reasons. " My comment re. cancel culture was in response to that quote from the poster. I didn't mention it before that. | |||
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"Is it cancel culture when part of the show is to vote people out? "I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views?" You don't thunk this is cancel culture?wasnt that a fab quote ? Or were the quoting labour? Not putting someone on because of their views... Can be seen as cancel culture. We do need to be aware that this works in all directions. Voting someone out because of their views... A bit tasteless but as valid as many reasons. My comment re. cancel culture was in response to that quote from the poster. I didn't mention it before that. " fair. I got confused as someone mentioned it almost immediately. | |||
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"Is it cancel culture when part of the show is to vote people out? "I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views?" You don't thunk this is cancel culture?wasnt that a fab quote ? Or were the quoting labour? Not putting someone on because of their views... Can be seen as cancel culture. We do need to be aware that this works in all directions. Voting someone out because of their views... A bit tasteless but as valid as many reasons. My comment re. cancel culture was in response to that quote from the poster. I didn't mention it before that. fair. I got confused as someone mentioned it almost immediately. " I'd assume because Whittome said "ITV should never have given him an opportunity". That is also cancel culture IMO. | |||
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"Is it cancel culture when part of the show is to vote people out? "I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views?" You don't thunk this is cancel culture?wasnt that a fab quote ? Or were the quoting labour? Not putting someone on because of their views... Can be seen as cancel culture. We do need to be aware that this works in all directions. Voting someone out because of their views... A bit tasteless but as valid as many reasons. My comment re. cancel culture was in response to that quote from the poster. I didn't mention it before that. fair. I got confused as someone mentioned it almost immediately. I'd assume because Whittome said "ITV should never have given him an opportunity". That is also cancel culture IMO." I'd agree, although it's a precarious area to navigate. And it's not something I see as just a left wing thing. Just imagine if a pro-palenstine (but not hamas) supporter was given the platform. | |||
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"Is it cancel culture when part of the show is to vote people out? "I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views?" You don't thunk this is cancel culture?wasnt that a fab quote ? Or were the quoting labour? Not putting someone on because of their views... Can be seen as cancel culture. We do need to be aware that this works in all directions. Voting someone out because of their views... A bit tasteless but as valid as many reasons. My comment re. cancel culture was in response to that quote from the poster. I didn't mention it before that. fair. I got confused as someone mentioned it almost immediately. I'd assume because Whittome said "ITV should never have given him an opportunity". That is also cancel culture IMO.I'd agree, although it's a precarious area to navigate. And it's not something I see as just a left wing thing. Just imagine if a pro-palenstine (but not hamas) supporter was given the platform. " On this occasion they are both Labour MPs so I think it's fair to call it 'left wing' BTW, Nella Rose has been Xenophobic in her past, no one is calling for her to be cancelled. | |||
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"Is it cancel culture when part of the show is to vote people out? "I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views?" You don't thunk this is cancel culture?wasnt that a fab quote ? Or were the quoting labour? Not putting someone on because of their views... Can be seen as cancel culture. We do need to be aware that this works in all directions. Voting someone out because of their views... A bit tasteless but as valid as many reasons. My comment re. cancel culture was in response to that quote from the poster. I didn't mention it before that. fair. I got confused as someone mentioned it almost immediately. I'd assume because Whittome said "ITV should never have given him an opportunity". That is also cancel culture IMO.I'd agree, although it's a precarious area to navigate. And it's not something I see as just a left wing thing. Just imagine if a pro-palenstine (but not hamas) supporter was given the platform. On this occasion they are both Labour MPs so I think it's fair to call it 'left wing' BTW, Nella Rose has been Xenophobic in her past, no one is calling for her to be cancelled." no idea who she is. Call this ppl left, for sure. Others in the thread have implied it's the preserve of the left. | |||
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"Is it cancel culture when part of the show is to vote people out? "I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views?" You don't thunk this is cancel culture?wasnt that a fab quote ? Or were the quoting labour? Not putting someone on because of their views... Can be seen as cancel culture. We do need to be aware that this works in all directions. Voting someone out because of their views... A bit tasteless but as valid as many reasons. My comment re. cancel culture was in response to that quote from the poster. I didn't mention it before that. fair. I got confused as someone mentioned it almost immediately. I'd assume because Whittome said "ITV should never have given him an opportunity". That is also cancel culture IMO.I'd agree, although it's a precarious area to navigate. And it's not something I see as just a left wing thing. Just imagine if a pro-palenstine (but not hamas) supporter was given the platform. On this occasion they are both Labour MPs so I think it's fair to call it 'left wing' BTW, Nella Rose has been Xenophobic in her past, no one is calling for her to be cancelled.no idea who she is. Call this ppl left, for sure. Others in the thread have implied it's the preserve of the left. " One person mentioned left. He said: "This is what I’ve come accustomed to from the progressive left." As I said, as these are Labour MPs, I think that's a fair comment. | |||
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"Is it cancel culture when part of the show is to vote people out? "I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views?" You don't thunk this is cancel culture?wasnt that a fab quote ? Or were the quoting labour? Not putting someone on because of their views... Can be seen as cancel culture. We do need to be aware that this works in all directions. Voting someone out because of their views... A bit tasteless but as valid as many reasons. My comment re. cancel culture was in response to that quote from the poster. I didn't mention it before that. fair. I got confused as someone mentioned it almost immediately. I'd assume because Whittome said "ITV should never have given him an opportunity". That is also cancel culture IMO.I'd agree, although it's a precarious area to navigate. And it's not something I see as just a left wing thing. Just imagine if a pro-palenstine (but not hamas) supporter was given the platform. On this occasion they are both Labour MPs so I think it's fair to call it 'left wing' BTW, Nella Rose has been Xenophobic in her past, no one is calling for her to be cancelled.no idea who she is. Call this ppl left, for sure. Others in the thread have implied it's the preserve of the left. One person mentioned left. He said: "This is what I’ve come accustomed to from the progressive left." As I said, as these are Labour MPs, I think that's a fair comment. " I read the their comment to be in a similar vein. But tbf it may not have been. I do seem to be confusing threads on the same subject on different platforms. | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp?" I think his popularity means this is a struggle. | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp?" Or just not watch the show. | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show." Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again | |||
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"It's a minefield, that's for sure. On the one hand, if you give a platform to extreme views of either persuasion, you facilitate what might come further down the line. (For example, in retrospect should the National Socialist German Workers' Party been given succour in the 1930's ? Now we know what we do now, then clearly not. But the people could not have known in the early stages. But it happened anyway.) It would seem then, the safest option is to "nip that stuff in the bud" before it all ends in tears, because precedence says that is how it will end. The only was to protect the future is to learn the mistakes of the past and not repeat them. " Are you likening Farage to Hitler? I'm not sure... | |||
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"It's a minefield, that's for sure. On the one hand, if you give a platform to extreme views of either persuasion, you facilitate what might come further down the line. (For example, in retrospect should the National Socialist German Workers' Party been given succour in the 1930's ? Now we know what we do now, then clearly not. But the people could not have known in the early stages. But it happened anyway.) It would seem then, the safest option is to "nip that stuff in the bud" before it all ends in tears, because precedence says that is how it will end. The only was to protect the future is to learn the mistakes of the past and not repeat them. " I disagree. Giving someone platform to speak is mot the sole reason for their ideology to gather more support. If you deplatform them, they will just find another platform. Even worse, the act of deplatforming someone will only get him more support. People will be angry at the person doing the deplatforming and not the person being deplatformed. The right way is to let them speak and then call out their rhetoric with valid arguments. Shutting down arguments has never worked. | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again " Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. | |||
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"It's a minefield, that's for sure. On the one hand, if you give a platform to extreme views of either persuasion, you facilitate what might come further down the line. (For example, in retrospect should the National Socialist German Workers' Party been given succour in the 1930's ? Now we know what we do now, then clearly not. But the people could not have known in the early stages. But it happened anyway.) It would seem then, the safest option is to "nip that stuff in the bud" before it all ends in tears, because precedence says that is how it will end. The only was to protect the future is to learn the mistakes of the past and not repeat them. " I have asked this once, I will try again.. what has he said that makes you think he should not be heard? | |||
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"Is it cancel culture when part of the show is to vote people out? "I suppose the bigger picture is should airtime be afforded to individuals with distasteful/questionable views?" You don't thunk this is cancel culture?wasnt that a fab quote ? Or were the quoting labour? Not putting someone on because of their views... Can be seen as cancel culture. We do need to be aware that this works in all directions. Voting someone out because of their views... A bit tasteless but as valid as many reasons. My comment re. cancel culture was in response to that quote from the poster. I didn't mention it before that. fair. I got confused as someone mentioned it almost immediately. I'd assume because Whittome said "ITV should never have given him an opportunity". That is also cancel culture IMO.I'd agree, although it's a precarious area to navigate. And it's not something I see as just a left wing thing. Just imagine if a pro-palenstine (but not hamas) supporter was given the platform. On this occasion they are both Labour MPs so I think it's fair to call it 'left wing' BTW, Nella Rose has been Xenophobic in her past, no one is calling for her to be cancelled.no idea who she is. Call this ppl left, for sure. Others in the thread have implied it's the preserve of the left. One person mentioned left. He said: "This is what I’ve come accustomed to from the progressive left." As I said, as these are Labour MPs, I think that's a fair comment. I read the their comment to be in a similar vein. But tbf it may not have been. I do seem to be confusing threads on the same subject on different platforms. " Is it my comment you are struggling with? Referencing labour, when it is labour MP's at the heart of the story calling for Farage to be removed from the show? | |||
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"It's a minefield, that's for sure. On the one hand, if you give a platform to extreme views of either persuasion, you facilitate what might come further down the line. (For example, in retrospect should the National Socialist German Workers' Party been given succour in the 1930's ? Now we know what we do now, then clearly not. But the people could not have known in the early stages. But it happened anyway.) It would seem then, the safest option is to "nip that stuff in the bud" before it all ends in tears, because precedence says that is how it will end. The only was to protect the future is to learn the mistakes of the past and not repeat them. " But we are forced to listen to the extreme views of the Labour Party every day. Why aren’t they banned? | |||
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"They should have given farage a piece of paper and asked him to list the benefits of Brexit during his time in the jungle No point giving him a "pen" and paper as he wouldn't be able to write anything " I think you might be missing the point with Farage, like so many others… He campaigned to get the UK out of the EU, and guess what he was successful. Managing the transition wasn’t in his control. | |||
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"They should have given farage a piece of paper and asked him to list the benefits of Brexit during his time in the jungle No point giving him a "pen" and paper as he wouldn't be able to write anything I think you might be missing the point with Farage, like so many others… He campaigned to get the UK out of the EU, and guess what he was successful. Managing the transition wasn’t in his control. " In fairness he campaigned to give the British people the choice to leave the EU | |||
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"They should have given farage a piece of paper and asked him to list the benefits of Brexit during his time in the jungle No point giving him a "pen" and paper as he wouldn't be able to write anything I think you might be missing the point with Farage, like so many others… He campaigned to get the UK out of the EU, and guess what he was successful. Managing the transition wasn’t in his control. " Not at all , agree with you , Farage had no idea of the consequences of a leave win To put it another way He didn't know what he was going for | |||
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" I have asked this once, I will try again.. what has he said that makes you think he should not be heard? " Are you interrogating me ? . I refer the honourable questioner to freely conduct their own search (like I have) in to easily found information on the conduct and character of NF. (That's Nigel Farage in case there is any confusion with another political party also sharing the same initials. Although you would be hard-pressed to wonder where one ends and the other begins). . Said investigation in to his "character" and directly-attributable quotes will tell you more than enough to form an opinion. . Nigel Farage does NOT speak for me. . Does he speak for YOU ? | |||
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" I have asked this once, I will try again.. what has he said that makes you think he should not be heard? Are you interrogating me ? . I refer the honourable questioner to freely conduct their own search (like I have) in to easily found information on the conduct and character of NF. (That's Nigel Farage in case there is any confusion with another political party also sharing the same initials. Although you would be hard-pressed to wonder where one ends and the other begins). . Said investigation in to his "character" and directly-attributable quotes will tell you more than enough to form an opinion. . Nigel Farage does NOT speak for me. . Does he speak for YOU ?" So this is the latest trend for a cop out? Making a comment about someone's character and when asked to give a clear example of the person's behaviour that justifies your comments, the response is "Go find it yourself". Great way to do a debate. | |||
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"I have asked this once, I will try again.. what has he said that makes you think he should not be heard?" "I refer the honourable questioner to freely conduct their own search (like I have) in to easily found information on the conduct and character of NF..." Notme didn't ask what Nigel Farage had done, he asked why you thought that he shouldn't be heard. Unless there's a website out there called "Doubleswing2019's Thought Processes", that information isn't easily found, and the only way to get it is to ask you. If you're going to refuse to answer, I think we're all justified in concluding that you don't know what's in your own mind. | |||
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"Nigel Farage is a grifting wanker. But that is just my opinion. Some people seem to like him "Quite a few people in fact. It’s sad that so many people in the UK are so narrow minded that they can’t comprehend that other people may just have a different opinion to them, without needing to resort to facile insults. | |||
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"Blokes a cunt, in my opinion.. A puppet of those who only seek division, he's happy to take their money and be their public face.. Respect others like him as that's their right to do so.. Sort of hope he does to the Tories what Corbyn did to Labour.." What has he specifically done or said that makes you feel like this about him? I can't seem to get an answer, but there is a lot of anger towards him... | |||
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"Blokes a cunt, in my opinion.. A puppet of those who only seek division, he's happy to take their money and be their public face.. Respect others like him as that's their right to do so.. Sort of hope he does to the Tories what Corbyn did to Labour.. What has he specifically done or said that makes you feel like this about him? I can't seem to get an answer, but there is a lot of anger towards him..." He amped up the fear of foriegners and used it as a tool to get people to vote for Brexit. That's probably why lots of people don't like him. | |||
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"Blokes a cunt, in my opinion.. A puppet of those who only seek division, he's happy to take their money and be their public face.. Respect others like him as that's their right to do so.. Sort of hope he does to the Tories what Corbyn did to Labour.. What has he specifically done or said that makes you feel like this about him? I can't seem to get an answer, but there is a lot of anger towards him... He amped up the fear of foriegners and used it as a tool to get people to vote for Brexit. That's probably why lots of people don't like him." His stance on stopping people crossing the channel in small boats? That is the same message the tories and labour have? Why is he different? | |||
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"Blokes a cunt, in my opinion.. A puppet of those who only seek division, he's happy to take their money and be their public face.. Respect others like him as that's their right to do so.. Sort of hope he does to the Tories what Corbyn did to Labour.. What has he specifically done or said that makes you feel like this about him? I can't seem to get an answer, but there is a lot of anger towards him... He amped up the fear of foriegners and used it as a tool to get people to vote for Brexit. That's probably why lots of people don't like him. His stance on stopping people crossing the channel in small boats? That is the same message the tories and labour have? Why is he different?" Intent I guess. Whilst some people are trying to stop migrant crossing for their safety,for the protection of vulnerable people. Some are trying to prevent the system being even more overwhelmed than it already is the financial and humanitarian implications are huge. I suspect that people like him just don't want anyone who isn't British in the country. I dunno, maybe he has as much right to speak his thoughts as much as the next foux celebrity or "influencers" spouting nonsense on various platforms. You know it's much like anything if you don't like it don't watch/listen or read it. | |||
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"Blokes a cunt, in my opinion.. A puppet of those who only seek division, he's happy to take their money and be their public face.. Respect others like him as that's their right to do so.. Sort of hope he does to the Tories what Corbyn did to Labour.. What has he specifically done or said that makes you feel like this about him? I can't seem to get an answer, but there is a lot of anger towards him... He amped up the fear of foriegners and used it as a tool to get people to vote for Brexit. That's probably why lots of people don't like him. His stance on stopping people crossing the channel in small boats? That is the same message the tories and labour have? Why is he different?" Not specifically small boats no. Although I do agree the Tories were as bad, and in recent times have been even worse. And Labour aren't offering anything different. | |||
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"Blokes a cunt, in my opinion.. A puppet of those who only seek division, he's happy to take their money and be their public face.. Respect others like him as that's their right to do so.. Sort of hope he does to the Tories what Corbyn did to Labour.. What has he specifically done or said that makes you feel like this about him? I can't seem to get an answer, but there is a lot of anger towards him... He amped up the fear of foriegners and used it as a tool to get people to vote for Brexit. That's probably why lots of people don't like him. His stance on stopping people crossing the channel in small boats? That is the same message the tories and labour have? Why is he different? Intent I guess. Whilst some people are trying to stop migrant crossing for their safety,for the protection of vulnerable people. Some are trying to prevent the system being even more overwhelmed than it already is the financial and humanitarian implications are huge. I suspect that people like him just don't want anyone who isn't British in the country. I dunno, maybe he has as much right to speak his thoughts as much as the next foux celebrity or "influencers" spouting nonsense on various platforms. You know it's much like anything if you don't like it don't watch/listen or read it. " He does offer an argument that challenges financial costs and the balance of multiculturalism in society, when is it to much, or is it never to much. Those questions if not put on the table for sensible discussion and understanding lead to Brexit decisions by the public and far right governments that we are seeing in some countries now. Is it best to ignore the hard questions because the answer might be hard, or face into all the knowns and know what tomorrow looks like? | |||
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"Blokes a cunt, in my opinion.. A puppet of those who only seek division, he's happy to take their money and be their public face.. Respect others like him as that's their right to do so.. Sort of hope he does to the Tories what Corbyn did to Labour.. What has he specifically done or said that makes you feel like this about him? I can't seem to get an answer, but there is a lot of anger towards him... He amped up the fear of foriegners and used it as a tool to get people to vote for Brexit. That's probably why lots of people don't like him. His stance on stopping people crossing the channel in small boats? That is the same message the tories and labour have? Why is he different? Intent I guess. Whilst some people are trying to stop migrant crossing for their safety,for the protection of vulnerable people. Some are trying to prevent the system being even more overwhelmed than it already is the financial and humanitarian implications are huge. I suspect that people like him just don't want anyone who isn't British in the country. I dunno, maybe he has as much right to speak his thoughts as much as the next foux celebrity or "influencers" spouting nonsense on various platforms. You know it's much like anything if you don't like it don't watch/listen or read it. He does offer an argument that challenges financial costs and the balance of multiculturalism in society, when is it to much, or is it never to much. Those questions if not put on the table for sensible discussion and understanding lead to Brexit decisions by the public and far right governments that we are seeing in some countries now. Is it best to ignore the hard questions because the answer might be hard, or face into all the knowns and know what tomorrow looks like?" He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK. Personally I don't give a shit about Farage. He was tool used by those who wanted Brexit, but didn't want to be overtly racist themselves. But I was trying to help to explain to you why some people find him obnoxious and offensive. | |||
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"Blokes a cunt, in my opinion.. A puppet of those who only seek division, he's happy to take their money and be their public face.. Respect others like him as that's their right to do so.. Sort of hope he does to the Tories what Corbyn did to Labour.. What has he specifically done or said that makes you feel like this about him? I can't seem to get an answer, but there is a lot of anger towards him... He amped up the fear of foriegners and used it as a tool to get people to vote for Brexit. That's probably why lots of people don't like him. His stance on stopping people crossing the channel in small boats? That is the same message the tories and labour have? Why is he different? Intent I guess. Whilst some people are trying to stop migrant crossing for their safety,for the protection of vulnerable people. Some are trying to prevent the system being even more overwhelmed than it already is the financial and humanitarian implications are huge. I suspect that people like him just don't want anyone who isn't British in the country. I dunno, maybe he has as much right to speak his thoughts as much as the next foux celebrity or "influencers" spouting nonsense on various platforms. You know it's much like anything if you don't like it don't watch/listen or read it. He does offer an argument that challenges financial costs and the balance of multiculturalism in society, when is it to much, or is it never to much. Those questions if not put on the table for sensible discussion and understanding lead to Brexit decisions by the public and far right governments that we are seeing in some countries now. Is it best to ignore the hard questions because the answer might be hard, or face into all the knowns and know what tomorrow looks like? He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK. Personally I don't give a shit about Farage. He was tool used by those who wanted Brexit, but didn't want to be overtly racist themselves. But I was trying to help to explain to you why some people find him obnoxious and offensive. " I get his messages are not everyone’s idea of how things should be, but I’m yet to hear an argument that categorically calls out Farage for anything that would call for him to be cancelled or his voice being heard, as the 2 labour MP’s have called for. They worry me more than Farage, at least you know where you stand with him. | |||
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"Blokes a cunt, in my opinion.. A puppet of those who only seek division, he's happy to take their money and be their public face.. Respect others like him as that's their right to do so.. Sort of hope he does to the Tories what Corbyn did to Labour.. What has he specifically done or said that makes you feel like this about him? I can't seem to get an answer, but there is a lot of anger towards him... He amped up the fear of foriegners and used it as a tool to get people to vote for Brexit. That's probably why lots of people don't like him. His stance on stopping people crossing the channel in small boats? That is the same message the tories and labour have? Why is he different? Intent I guess. Whilst some people are trying to stop migrant crossing for their safety,for the protection of vulnerable people. Some are trying to prevent the system being even more overwhelmed than it already is the financial and humanitarian implications are huge. I suspect that people like him just don't want anyone who isn't British in the country. I dunno, maybe he has as much right to speak his thoughts as much as the next foux celebrity or "influencers" spouting nonsense on various platforms. You know it's much like anything if you don't like it don't watch/listen or read it. He does offer an argument that challenges financial costs and the balance of multiculturalism in society, when is it to much, or is it never to much. Those questions if not put on the table for sensible discussion and understanding lead to Brexit decisions by the public and far right governments that we are seeing in some countries now. Is it best to ignore the hard questions because the answer might be hard, or face into all the knowns and know what tomorrow looks like? He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK. Personally I don't give a shit about Farage. He was tool used by those who wanted Brexit, but didn't want to be overtly racist themselves. But I was trying to help to explain to you why some people find him obnoxious and offensive. I get his messages are not everyone’s idea of how things should be, but I’m yet to hear an argument that categorically calls out Farage for anything that would call for him to be cancelled or his voice being heard, as the 2 labour MP’s have called for. They worry me more than Farage, at least you know where you stand with him." True. Personally I don't want him cancelled. I don't watch this show. Don't care who goes on it. I can understand why people don't like seeing is face or listening to his bullshit. But my TV has an off button. | |||
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" Notme didn't ask what Nigel Farage had done, he asked why you thought that he shouldn't be heard. Unless there's a website out there called "Doubleswing2019's Thought Processes", that information isn't easily found, and the only way to get it is to ask you. If you're going to refuse to answer, I think we're all justified in concluding that you don't know what's in your own mind." Do you really want me to publish a complete essay on what my specific opinions (and why) are concerning NF ? Because that is what is being asked and that's a completely unrealistic expectation. Why ? Have you seen the word count limit in FAB ? I'm being asked for an x thousand word essay and this is not the platform to deliver it, and the inquirers know that full well. And then have the temerity to shut down the discussion. The information is "out there". Plenty of it. From many different sources. Is it that hard to do your own research ? | |||
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" Notme didn't ask what Nigel Farage had done, he asked why you thought that he shouldn't be heard. Unless there's a website out there called "Doubleswing2019's Thought Processes", that information isn't easily found, and the only way to get it is to ask you. If you're going to refuse to answer, I think we're all justified in concluding that you don't know what's in your own mind. Do you really want me to publish a complete essay on what my specific opinions (and why) are concerning NF ? Because that is what is being asked and that's a completely unrealistic expectation. Why ? Have you seen the word count limit in FAB ? I'm being asked for an x thousand word essay and this is not the platform to deliver it, and the inquirers know that full well. And then have the temerity to shut down the discussion. The information is "out there". Plenty of it. From many different sources. Is it that hard to do your own research ?" That's nothing but rabble to enable you to not answer questions posed. I said this a couple of days on another thread but this place really has resorted to 'I'm making a claim but I won't back it up. If you question me, I'll tell you to do your own research' | |||
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" Notme didn't ask what Nigel Farage had done, he asked why you thought that he shouldn't be heard. Unless there's a website out there called "Doubleswing2019's Thought Processes", that information isn't easily found, and the only way to get it is to ask you. If you're going to refuse to answer, I think we're all justified in concluding that you don't know what's in your own mind. Do you really want me to publish a complete essay on what my specific opinions (and why) are concerning NF ? Because that is what is being asked and that's a completely unrealistic expectation. Why ? Have you seen the word count limit in FAB ? I'm being asked for an x thousand word essay and this is not the platform to deliver it, and the inquirers know that full well. And then have the temerity to shut down the discussion. The information is "out there". Plenty of it. From many different sources. Is it that hard to do your own research ?" Not looking for an essay, how about top 3 or 5 reasons, bullet pointed and the reason and why you think that bullet point deserves for him to be cancelled. | |||
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"He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK." I'm fairly sure that Nigel Farage didn't fly out to Eastern Europe and line up a bunch of brown people in a field so that he could take a photo of them. I'm also fairly sure that the poster was created by a graphic designer somewhere, and I doubt Nigel had any input into its contents. Could it be that you are actually upset with a whole bunch of people that paved the path to Brexit, and that you're focusing all that anger on Nigel Farage as the scapegoat? | |||
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"He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK. I'm fairly sure that Nigel Farage didn't fly out to Eastern Europe and line up a bunch of brown people in a field so that he could take a photo of them. I'm also fairly sure that the poster was created by a graphic designer somewhere, and I doubt Nigel had any input into its contents. " Apologies, would have been more correct to say "someone working for Farage or ukip created...." Good work pointing out the error. " Could it be that you are actually upset with a whole bunch of people that paved the path to Brexit, and that you're focusing all that anger on Nigel Farage as the scapegoat?" I don't know why you think I'm focusing anger on Farage. I'm not. | |||
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"Notme didn't ask what Nigel Farage had done, he asked why you thought that he shouldn't be heard. Unless there's a website out there called "Doubleswing2019's Thought Processes", that information isn't easily found, and the only way to get it is to ask you. If you're going to refuse to answer, I think we're all justified in concluding that you don't know what's in your own mind." "Do you really want me to publish a complete essay on what my specific opinions (and why) are concerning NF ?" No, not at all. A single example would do. " Because that is what is being asked ..." No it isn't. You only need one example of something he has done or said that you think justifies him being banned. "Have you seen the word count limit in FAB ?" I didn't know there was one. "I'm being asked for an x thousand word essay ..." No you're not, just one example of a ban-worthy quote or deed. "The information is "out there". Plenty of it." There's plenty of information about Nigel Farage, some of it true, but there's nothing about your personal opinion, and that's what we want to know. "Is it that hard to do your own research ?" The research involves getting some information out of your head, and that is proving to be very difficult indeed. | |||
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"Could it be that you are actually upset with a whole bunch of people that paved the path to Brexit, and that you're focusing all that anger on Nigel Farage as the scapegoat?" "I don't know why you think I'm focusing anger on Farage. I'm not." That's true, you've said nothing bad about him in this thread. I should re-phrase my question to 'could it be that some in this thread are using Nigel as a scapegoat to aim their hatred at'. | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. " Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. | |||
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"He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK. I'm fairly sure that Nigel Farage didn't fly out to Eastern Europe and line up a bunch of brown people in a field so that he could take a photo of them. I'm also fairly sure that the poster was created by a graphic designer somewhere, and I doubt Nigel had any input into its contents. Could it be that you are actually upset with a whole bunch of people that paved the path to Brexit, and that you're focusing all that anger on Nigel Farage as the scapegoat?" Wasn’t going to comment further but this needs a response. Farage and UKIP commissioned, approved and paid for the poster. They would have also provided the brief giving the aims and objectives for the poster. The implication of your post was that it was nothing to do with Farage. Sorry but that is not the case by any stretch of the imagination. | |||
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"He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK. I'm fairly sure that Nigel Farage didn't fly out to Eastern Europe and line up a bunch of brown people in a field so that he could take a photo of them. I'm also fairly sure that the poster was created by a graphic designer somewhere, and I doubt Nigel had any input into its contents. Could it be that you are actually upset with a whole bunch of people that paved the path to Brexit, and that you're focusing all that anger on Nigel Farage as the scapegoat? Wasn’t going to comment further but this needs a response. Farage and UKIP commissioned, approved and paid for the poster. They would have also provided the brief giving the aims and objectives for the poster. The implication of your post was that it was nothing to do with Farage. Sorry but that is not the case by any stretch of the imagination." Would that be enough to cancel him? A poster that indicates a migration of people into the EU, I believe is the posters image | |||
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"He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK." "I'm fairly sure that Nigel Farage didn't fly out to Eastern Europe and line up a bunch of brown people in a field so that he could take a photo of them. I'm also fairly sure that the poster was created by a graphic designer somewhere, and I doubt Nigel had any input into its contents. Could it be that you are actually upset with a whole bunch of people that paved the path to Brexit, and that you're focusing all that anger on Nigel Farage as the scapegoat?" "Wasn’t going to comment further but this needs a response. Farage and UKIP commissioned, approved and paid for the poster. They would have also provided the brief giving the aims and objectives for the poster. The implication of your post was that it was nothing to do with Farage. Sorry but that is not the case by any stretch of the imagination." Johnny said that Farage 'created' the poster. I think we all agree that's not accurate. He certainly unveiled it, and defended it to the media, so we can say that he agreed with it, but that's about all we can say. Maybe he was the single person that commissioned it, but it might have been someone else. Farage certainly didn't pay for it, that would have been UKIP money. Farage might not even have approved it before it got printed. I wasn't implying that Farage had no connection to it, that inference is in your own head. None of us knows who created that poster, it could just as easily have been Paul Nuttall, the deputy leader, but no one seems to be blaming him. If you hate that poster, and want to blame Nigel, do so because he defended it on TV, which is what happened. Don't make up the idea that he created it all on his own. | |||
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"At least people know who Nigel Farage is!!! Most of the rest of them are nonentities. " You obviously haven't noticed the "Who is Nigel Farage?" story on the front page of the BBC website. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-67477838 | |||
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"Would winning this show give him a louder voice?" "Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate." Would it? I've not seen the show, but my understanding is that they make people do horrible stuff, and the public vote for who they want to leave the show. If Nigel stays in to the end, that could be because he's popular and people want to see more of him, or it could be because people hate him and want to see him humiliated some more. Apologies if I've got the format wrong. | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate." So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? | |||
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"He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK. I'm fairly sure that Nigel Farage didn't fly out to Eastern Europe and line up a bunch of brown people in a field so that he could take a photo of them. I'm also fairly sure that the poster was created by a graphic designer somewhere, and I doubt Nigel had any input into its contents. Could it be that you are actually upset with a whole bunch of people that paved the path to Brexit, and that you're focusing all that anger on Nigel Farage as the scapegoat? Wasn’t going to comment further but this needs a response. Farage and UKIP commissioned, approved and paid for the poster. They would have also provided the brief giving the aims and objectives for the poster. The implication of your post was that it was nothing to do with Farage. Sorry but that is not the case by any stretch of the imagination. Would that be enough to cancel him? A poster that indicates a migration of people into the EU, I believe is the posters image" My comment was purely on what it means to “create” a poster. | |||
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"He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK. I'm fairly sure that Nigel Farage didn't fly out to Eastern Europe and line up a bunch of brown people in a field so that he could take a photo of them. I'm also fairly sure that the poster was created by a graphic designer somewhere, and I doubt Nigel had any input into its contents. Could it be that you are actually upset with a whole bunch of people that paved the path to Brexit, and that you're focusing all that anger on Nigel Farage as the scapegoat? Wasn’t going to comment further but this needs a response. Farage and UKIP commissioned, approved and paid for the poster. They would have also provided the brief giving the aims and objectives for the poster. The implication of your post was that it was nothing to do with Farage. Sorry but that is not the case by any stretch of the imagination. Johnny said that Farage 'created' the poster. I think we all agree that's not accurate. He certainly unveiled it, and defended it to the media, so we can say that he agreed with it, but that's about all we can say. Maybe he was the single person that commissioned it, but it might have been someone else. Farage certainly didn't pay for it, that would have been UKIP money. Farage might not even have approved it before it got printed. I wasn't implying that Farage had no connection to it, that inference is in your own head. None of us knows who created that poster, it could just as easily have been Paul Nuttall, the deputy leader, but no one seems to be blaming him. If you hate that poster, and want to blame Nigel, do so because he defended it on TV, which is what happened. Don't make up the idea that he created it all on his own." I trust when you say “you” what YOU are meaning is the collective “you” or “one” as opposed to me? In my opinion you arguing with Johnny over what it means to “create” and your response to me just seems rather pedantic. I think we can all agree that the poster in question was issued with the full knowledge and blessing of Farage. Some people found that poster misleading at best and others found it outright offensive. You (or others, not been following too closely) asked for reasons why Farage was disliked. Johnny gave you one. This is but one example. Farage lies. Should he have no voice? In my opinion he should have a voice as should everyone. We should be able to debate and discuss all viewpoints. We do not have to like them and we may find them distasteful, but we should be prepared to discuss all views. Sadly it just becomes a shit throwing contest. | |||
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"He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK. I'm fairly sure that Nigel Farage didn't fly out to Eastern Europe and line up a bunch of brown people in a field so that he could take a photo of them. I'm also fairly sure that the poster was created by a graphic designer somewhere, and I doubt Nigel had any input into its contents. Could it be that you are actually upset with a whole bunch of people that paved the path to Brexit, and that you're focusing all that anger on Nigel Farage as the scapegoat? Wasn’t going to comment further but this needs a response. Farage and UKIP commissioned, approved and paid for the poster. They would have also provided the brief giving the aims and objectives for the poster. The implication of your post was that it was nothing to do with Farage. Sorry but that is not the case by any stretch of the imagination. Johnny said that Farage 'created' the poster. I think we all agree that's not accurate. He certainly unveiled it, and defended it to the media, so we can say that he agreed with it, but that's about all we can say. Maybe he was the single person that commissioned it, but it might have been someone else. Farage certainly didn't pay for it, that would have been UKIP money. Farage might not even have approved it before it got printed. I wasn't implying that Farage had no connection to it, that inference is in your own head. None of us knows who created that poster, it could just as easily have been Paul Nuttall, the deputy leader, but no one seems to be blaming him. If you hate that poster, and want to blame Nigel, do so because he defended it on TV, which is what happened. Don't make up the idea that he created it all on his own. I trust when you say “you” what YOU are meaning is the collective “you” or “one” as opposed to me? In my opinion you arguing with Johnny over what it means to “create” and your response to me just seems rather pedantic. I think we can all agree that the poster in question was issued with the full knowledge and blessing of Farage. Some people found that poster misleading at best and others found it outright offensive. You (or others, not been following too closely) asked for reasons why Farage was disliked. Johnny gave you one. This is but one example. Farage lies. Should he have no voice? In my opinion he should have a voice as should everyone. We should be able to debate and discuss all viewpoints. We do not have to like them and we may find them distasteful, but we should be prepared to discuss all views. Sadly it just becomes a shit throwing contest." Only one person asked why he isn't liked, personally and directly to one poster and that was a rephrase because of the refusal to answer why he shouldn't be given airtime. There's one obvious reason as to why some people don't like him, it's that he says things people don't like. Still, no one has answered why he shouldn't be aired. | |||
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"He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK. I'm fairly sure that Nigel Farage didn't fly out to Eastern Europe and line up a bunch of brown people in a field so that he could take a photo of them. I'm also fairly sure that the poster was created by a graphic designer somewhere, and I doubt Nigel had any input into its contents. Could it be that you are actually upset with a whole bunch of people that paved the path to Brexit, and that you're focusing all that anger on Nigel Farage as the scapegoat? Wasn’t going to comment further but this needs a response. Farage and UKIP commissioned, approved and paid for the poster. They would have also provided the brief giving the aims and objectives for the poster. The implication of your post was that it was nothing to do with Farage. Sorry but that is not the case by any stretch of the imagination. Johnny said that Farage 'created' the poster. I think we all agree that's not accurate. He certainly unveiled it, and defended it to the media, so we can say that he agreed with it, but that's about all we can say. Maybe he was the single person that commissioned it, but it might have been someone else. Farage certainly didn't pay for it, that would have been UKIP money. Farage might not even have approved it before it got printed. I wasn't implying that Farage had no connection to it, that inference is in your own head. None of us knows who created that poster, it could just as easily have been Paul Nuttall, the deputy leader, but no one seems to be blaming him. If you hate that poster, and want to blame Nigel, do so because he defended it on TV, which is what happened. Don't make up the idea that he created it all on his own. I trust when you say “you” what YOU are meaning is the collective “you” or “one” as opposed to me? In my opinion you arguing with Johnny over what it means to “create” and your response to me just seems rather pedantic. I think we can all agree that the poster in question was issued with the full knowledge and blessing of Farage. Some people found that poster misleading at best and others found it outright offensive. You (or others, not been following too closely) asked for reasons why Farage was disliked. Johnny gave you one. This is but one example. Farage lies. Should he have no voice? In my opinion he should have a voice as should everyone. We should be able to debate and discuss all viewpoints. We do not have to like them and we may find them distasteful, but we should be prepared to discuss all views. Sadly it just becomes a shit throwing contest. Only one person asked why he isn't liked, personally and directly to one poster and that was a rephrase because of the refusal to answer why he shouldn't be given airtime. There's one obvious reason as to why some people don't like him, it's that he says things people don't like. Still, no one has answered why he shouldn't be aired. " I think he should. The MPs were wrong to sugegst he shouldn't. I think Linekar should be able to tweet too. But I'm sure I have a line somewhere. I'd probably say it's related to laws being broken... But even then I've a degree of discomfort. | |||
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"Would winning this show give him a louder voice? Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. Would it? I've not seen the show, but my understanding is that they make people do horrible stuff, and the public vote for who they want to leave the show. If Nigel stays in to the end, that could be because he's popular and people want to see more of him, or it could be because people hate him and want to see him humiliated some more. Apologies if I've got the format wrong." Yes. Often the winners get lots of deals afterwards | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP?" Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing." You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.  | |||
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"He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK. I'm fairly sure that Nigel Farage didn't fly out to Eastern Europe and line up a bunch of brown people in a field so that he could take a photo of them. I'm also fairly sure that the poster was created by a graphic designer somewhere, and I doubt Nigel had any input into its contents. Could it be that you are actually upset with a whole bunch of people that paved the path to Brexit, and that you're focusing all that anger on Nigel Farage as the scapegoat? Wasn’t going to comment further but this needs a response. Farage and UKIP commissioned, approved and paid for the poster. They would have also provided the brief giving the aims and objectives for the poster. The implication of your post was that it was nothing to do with Farage. Sorry but that is not the case by any stretch of the imagination. Johnny said that Farage 'created' the poster. I think we all agree that's not accurate. He certainly unveiled it, and defended it to the media, so we can say that he agreed with it, but that's about all we can say. Maybe he was the single person that commissioned it, but it might have been someone else. Farage certainly didn't pay for it, that would have been UKIP money. Farage might not even have approved it before it got printed. I wasn't implying that Farage had no connection to it, that inference is in your own head. None of us knows who created that poster, it could just as easily have been Paul Nuttall, the deputy leader, but no one seems to be blaming him. If you hate that poster, and want to blame Nigel, do so because he defended it on TV, which is what happened. Don't make up the idea that he created it all on his own. I trust when you say “you” what YOU are meaning is the collective “you” or “one” as opposed to me? In my opinion you arguing with Johnny over what it means to “create” and your response to me just seems rather pedantic. I think we can all agree that the poster in question was issued with the full knowledge and blessing of Farage. Some people found that poster misleading at best and others found it outright offensive. You (or others, not been following too closely) asked for reasons why Farage was disliked. Johnny gave you one. This is but one example. Farage lies. Should he have no voice? In my opinion he should have a voice as should everyone. We should be able to debate and discuss all viewpoints. We do not have to like them and we may find them distasteful, but we should be prepared to discuss all views. Sadly it just becomes a shit throwing contest. Only one person asked why he isn't liked, personally and directly to one poster and that was a rephrase because of the refusal to answer why he shouldn't be given airtime. There's one obvious reason as to why some people don't like him, it's that he says things people don't like. Still, no one has answered why he shouldn't be aired. I think he should. The MPs were wrong to sugegst he shouldn't. I think Linekar should be able to tweet too. But I'm sure I have a line somewhere. I'd probably say it's related to laws being broken... But even then I've a degree of discomfort. " I agree Lineker should be able to tweet. I don't always agree with the way he says thing though. The irony is the people who think Farage should be cancelled are the same people who will defend Lineker to the end. | |||
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"He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK. I'm fairly sure that Nigel Farage didn't fly out to Eastern Europe and line up a bunch of brown people in a field so that he could take a photo of them. I'm also fairly sure that the poster was created by a graphic designer somewhere, and I doubt Nigel had any input into its contents. Could it be that you are actually upset with a whole bunch of people that paved the path to Brexit, and that you're focusing all that anger on Nigel Farage as the scapegoat? Wasn’t going to comment further but this needs a response. Farage and UKIP commissioned, approved and paid for the poster. They would have also provided the brief giving the aims and objectives for the poster. The implication of your post was that it was nothing to do with Farage. Sorry but that is not the case by any stretch of the imagination. Johnny said that Farage 'created' the poster. I think we all agree that's not accurate. He certainly unveiled it, and defended it to the media, so we can say that he agreed with it, but that's about all we can say. Maybe he was the single person that commissioned it, but it might have been someone else. Farage certainly didn't pay for it, that would have been UKIP money. Farage might not even have approved it before it got printed. I wasn't implying that Farage had no connection to it, that inference is in your own head. None of us knows who created that poster, it could just as easily have been Paul Nuttall, the deputy leader, but no one seems to be blaming him. If you hate that poster, and want to blame Nigel, do so because he defended it on TV, which is what happened. Don't make up the idea that he created it all on his own. I trust when you say “you” what YOU are meaning is the collective “you” or “one” as opposed to me? In my opinion you arguing with Johnny over what it means to “create” and your response to me just seems rather pedantic. I think we can all agree that the poster in question was issued with the full knowledge and blessing of Farage. Some people found that poster misleading at best and others found it outright offensive. You (or others, not been following too closely) asked for reasons why Farage was disliked. Johnny gave you one. This is but one example. Farage lies. Should he have no voice? In my opinion he should have a voice as should everyone. We should be able to debate and discuss all viewpoints. We do not have to like them and we may find them distasteful, but we should be prepared to discuss all views. Sadly it just becomes a shit throwing contest. Only one person asked why he isn't liked, personally and directly to one poster and that was a rephrase because of the refusal to answer why he shouldn't be given airtime. There's one obvious reason as to why some people don't like him, it's that he says things people don't like. Still, no one has answered why he shouldn't be aired. I think he should. The MPs were wrong to sugegst he shouldn't. I think Linekar should be able to tweet too. But I'm sure I have a line somewhere. I'd probably say it's related to laws being broken... But even then I've a degree of discomfort. I agree Lineker should be able to tweet. I don't always agree with the way he says thing though. The irony is the people who think Farage should be cancelled are the same people who will defend Lineker to the end. " and vice versa. Tho musk is trying his hardest to helps solve the Linekar issue  | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric. "What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is? I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred. | |||
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"He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK. I'm fairly sure that Nigel Farage didn't fly out to Eastern Europe and line up a bunch of brown people in a field so that he could take a photo of them. I'm also fairly sure that the poster was created by a graphic designer somewhere, and I doubt Nigel had any input into its contents. Could it be that you are actually upset with a whole bunch of people that paved the path to Brexit, and that you're focusing all that anger on Nigel Farage as the scapegoat? Wasn’t going to comment further but this needs a response. Farage and UKIP commissioned, approved and paid for the poster. They would have also provided the brief giving the aims and objectives for the poster. The implication of your post was that it was nothing to do with Farage. Sorry but that is not the case by any stretch of the imagination. Johnny said that Farage 'created' the poster. I think we all agree that's not accurate. He certainly unveiled it, and defended it to the media, so we can say that he agreed with it, but that's about all we can say. Maybe he was the single person that commissioned it, but it might have been someone else. Farage certainly didn't pay for it, that would have been UKIP money. Farage might not even have approved it before it got printed. I wasn't implying that Farage had no connection to it, that inference is in your own head. None of us knows who created that poster, it could just as easily have been Paul Nuttall, the deputy leader, but no one seems to be blaming him. If you hate that poster, and want to blame Nigel, do so because he defended it on TV, which is what happened. Don't make up the idea that he created it all on his own. I trust when you say “you” what YOU are meaning is the collective “you” or “one” as opposed to me? In my opinion you arguing with Johnny over what it means to “create” and your response to me just seems rather pedantic. I think we can all agree that the poster in question was issued with the full knowledge and blessing of Farage. Some people found that poster misleading at best and others found it outright offensive. You (or others, not been following too closely) asked for reasons why Farage was disliked. Johnny gave you one. This is but one example. Farage lies. Should he have no voice? In my opinion he should have a voice as should everyone. We should be able to debate and discuss all viewpoints. We do not have to like them and we may find them distasteful, but we should be prepared to discuss all views. Sadly it just becomes a shit throwing contest. Only one person asked why he isn't liked, personally and directly to one poster and that was a rephrase because of the refusal to answer why he shouldn't be given airtime. There's one obvious reason as to why some people don't like him, it's that he says things people don't like. Still, no one has answered why he shouldn't be aired. I think he should. The MPs were wrong to sugegst he shouldn't. I think Linekar should be able to tweet too. But I'm sure I have a line somewhere. I'd probably say it's related to laws being broken... But even then I've a degree of discomfort. I agree Lineker should be able to tweet. I don't always agree with the way he says thing though. The irony is the people who think Farage should be cancelled are the same people who will defend Lineker to the end. and vice versa. Tho musk is trying his hardest to helps solve the Linekar issue "What is Musk doing? | |||
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"He also creates posters with brown people walking through a field in eastern Europe and tells people they're coming to the UK. I'm fairly sure that Nigel Farage didn't fly out to Eastern Europe and line up a bunch of brown people in a field so that he could take a photo of them. I'm also fairly sure that the poster was created by a graphic designer somewhere, and I doubt Nigel had any input into its contents. Could it be that you are actually upset with a whole bunch of people that paved the path to Brexit, and that you're focusing all that anger on Nigel Farage as the scapegoat? Wasn’t going to comment further but this needs a response. Farage and UKIP commissioned, approved and paid for the poster. They would have also provided the brief giving the aims and objectives for the poster. The implication of your post was that it was nothing to do with Farage. Sorry but that is not the case by any stretch of the imagination. Johnny said that Farage 'created' the poster. I think we all agree that's not accurate. He certainly unveiled it, and defended it to the media, so we can say that he agreed with it, but that's about all we can say. Maybe he was the single person that commissioned it, but it might have been someone else. Farage certainly didn't pay for it, that would have been UKIP money. Farage might not even have approved it before it got printed. I wasn't implying that Farage had no connection to it, that inference is in your own head. None of us knows who created that poster, it could just as easily have been Paul Nuttall, the deputy leader, but no one seems to be blaming him. If you hate that poster, and want to blame Nigel, do so because he defended it on TV, which is what happened. Don't make up the idea that he created it all on his own. I trust when you say “you” what YOU are meaning is the collective “you” or “one” as opposed to me? In my opinion you arguing with Johnny over what it means to “create” and your response to me just seems rather pedantic. I think we can all agree that the poster in question was issued with the full knowledge and blessing of Farage. Some people found that poster misleading at best and others found it outright offensive. You (or others, not been following too closely) asked for reasons why Farage was disliked. Johnny gave you one. This is but one example. Farage lies. Should he have no voice? In my opinion he should have a voice as should everyone. We should be able to debate and discuss all viewpoints. We do not have to like them and we may find them distasteful, but we should be prepared to discuss all views. Sadly it just becomes a shit throwing contest. Only one person asked why he isn't liked, personally and directly to one poster and that was a rephrase because of the refusal to answer why he shouldn't be given airtime. There's one obvious reason as to why some people don't like him, it's that he says things people don't like. Still, no one has answered why he shouldn't be aired. I think he should. The MPs were wrong to sugegst he shouldn't. I think Linekar should be able to tweet too. But I'm sure I have a line somewhere. I'd probably say it's related to laws being broken... But even then I've a degree of discomfort. I agree Lineker should be able to tweet. I don't always agree with the way he says thing though. The irony is the people who think Farage should be cancelled are the same people who will defend Lineker to the end. and vice versa. Tho musk is trying his hardest to helps solve the Linekar issue
What is Musk doing?"dragging xitter into bankrupty by alienating advertiser's. I may start a thread rather than distract here ... Don't wanna cancel the cancel convo by stealth ! | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
"Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric? " I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred. " Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this. | |||
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"Ok, NF. 1. "That" poster. The Chancellor at the time, George Osbourne called it "Vile" and that it was reminiscent of Nazi propaganda. BoJo disavowed the poster at the time, as he did not feel it had a place in their campaign nor politics. Both of them realised how politically toxic the message was, as well as how divisive and dehumanising it was. . 2. NF has been condemned by the Board of Deputies for using anti-semitic tropes. The CST which work to protect Jewish people in the UK said "This is not the first time that Nigel Farage has used language that evokes antisemitic conspiracy codewords, but the deeper problem is that this search for scapegoats will keep requiring new enemies and new excuses, moving the national debate into more polarising and dangerous places.” . I think it's patently obvious that NF uses scaremongering, division and incitement to provoke and polarise. Genuine concerns are raised by affected parties to his rhetoric. Even from within allied political establishments. . NF is a very canny operator. He knows exactly where the line is to avoid political obliteration. He's the absolute worst kind of demagogue. He uses "plain folk logical fallacies" (argumentum ad populum ) to appeal to the common man. Privately-school educated then went in to Stockbroking, and yet "Man down the pub with a pint". Complete fabrication. . Should he be cancelled and taken off air ? Well, at what point do you have to say, "Enough is enough. The polarisation, the stoking of division, the incitement, has to end." Do you do it before the riots begin, during them, or afterwards in the burning ashes perhaps ?. Cleverer and more educated minds that I need to make that decision, legally if necessary. . I was going to mention his support and admiration of Trump, his comments on women in the workplace, his..but you know what, as important as those are, it's really his use/abuse of advertising to peddle his hatred and foster ill-will and hurt that really matters." You will have to lock him up to shut him up, Mr assange is still locked up to shut him up, the US legal system is being weaponized against mr trump to shut him up. Step back and question why. | |||
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"Ok, NF. 1. "That" poster. The Chancellor at the time, George Osbourne called it "Vile" and that it was reminiscent of Nazi propaganda. BoJo disavowed the poster at the time, as he did not feel it had a place in their campaign nor politics. Both of them realised how politically toxic the message was, as well as how divisive and dehumanising it was. . 2. NF has been condemned by the Board of Deputies for using anti-semitic tropes. The CST which work to protect Jewish people in the UK said "This is not the first time that Nigel Farage has used language that evokes antisemitic conspiracy codewords, but the deeper problem is that this search for scapegoats will keep requiring new enemies and new excuses, moving the national debate into more polarising and dangerous places.” . I think it's patently obvious that NF uses scaremongering, division and incitement to provoke and polarise. Genuine concerns are raised by affected parties to his rhetoric. Even from within allied political establishments. . NF is a very canny operator. He knows exactly where the line is to avoid political obliteration. He's the absolute worst kind of demagogue. He uses "plain folk logical fallacies" (argumentum ad populum ) to appeal to the common man. Privately-school educated then went in to Stockbroking, and yet "Man down the pub with a pint". Complete fabrication. . Should he be cancelled and taken off air ? Well, at what point do you have to say, "Enough is enough. The polarisation, the stoking of division, the incitement, has to end." Do you do it before the riots begin, during them, or afterwards in the burning ashes perhaps ?. Cleverer and more educated minds that I need to make that decision, legally if necessary. . I was going to mention his support and admiration of Trump, his comments on women in the workplace, his..but you know what, as important as those are, it's really his use/abuse of advertising to peddle his hatred and foster ill-will and hurt that really matters. You will have to lock him up to shut him up, Mr assange is still locked up to shut him up, the US legal system is being weaponized against mr trump to shut him up. Step back and question why." Why? Not asking myself, am asking you. | |||
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"Ok, NF. 1. "That" poster. The Chancellor at the time, George Osbourne called it "Vile" and that it was reminiscent of Nazi propaganda. BoJo disavowed the poster at the time, as he did not feel it had a place in their campaign nor politics. Both of them realised how politically toxic the message was, as well as how divisive and dehumanising it was. . 2. NF has been condemned by the Board of Deputies for using anti-semitic tropes. The CST which work to protect Jewish people in the UK said "This is not the first time that Nigel Farage has used language that evokes antisemitic conspiracy codewords, but the deeper problem is that this search for scapegoats will keep requiring new enemies and new excuses, moving the national debate into more polarising and dangerous places.” . I think it's patently obvious that NF uses scaremongering, division and incitement to provoke and polarise. Genuine concerns are raised by affected parties to his rhetoric. Even from within allied political establishments. . NF is a very canny operator. He knows exactly where the line is to avoid political obliteration. He's the absolute worst kind of demagogue. He uses "plain folk logical fallacies" (argumentum ad populum ) to appeal to the common man. Privately-school educated then went in to Stockbroking, and yet "Man down the pub with a pint". Complete fabrication. . Should he be cancelled and taken off air ? Well, at what point do you have to say, "Enough is enough. The polarisation, the stoking of division, the incitement, has to end." Do you do it before the riots begin, during them, or afterwards in the burning ashes perhaps ?. Cleverer and more educated minds that I need to make that decision, legally if necessary. . I was going to mention his support and admiration of Trump, his comments on women in the workplace, his..but you know what, as important as those are, it's really his use/abuse of advertising to peddle his hatred and foster ill-will and hurt that really matters." He has views on illegal entry that is often referred to as "immigration" which obviously it isn't. Where do you stand on that subject? Are you for or against illegal entry, both labour and tories are against it. Do you know what his views are on immigration outside of illegal entry? You mention other politicians and organisations challenging his tactics and messages, namely the poster, this happens all of the time, what has he done specifically that makes you consider him worthwhile to be silenced? Labours tweets and adverts, Braverman's language, are they really any different? | |||
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"I totally despise everything that Farage and his vile views stand for. But I won’t waste my money on voting him off In fact I want him to be made to do every bush tucker trial and any other thing that involves him eating slugs or cockroaches…. 24/7 Only fair payback…." What has he done that makes you so angry, specifically to you and your views would be great | |||
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"Ok, NF. 1. "That" poster. The Chancellor at the time, George Osbourne called it "Vile" and that it was reminiscent of Nazi propaganda. BoJo disavowed the poster at the time, as he did not feel it had a place in their campaign nor politics. Both of them realised how politically toxic the message was, as well as how divisive and dehumanising it was. . 2. NF has been condemned by the Board of Deputies for using anti-semitic tropes. The CST which work to protect Jewish people in the UK said "This is not the first time that Nigel Farage has used language that evokes antisemitic conspiracy codewords, but the deeper problem is that this search for scapegoats will keep requiring new enemies and new excuses, moving the national debate into more polarising and dangerous places.” . I think it's patently obvious that NF uses scaremongering, division and incitement to provoke and polarise. Genuine concerns are raised by affected parties to his rhetoric. Even from within allied political establishments. . NF is a very canny operator. He knows exactly where the line is to avoid political obliteration. He's the absolute worst kind of demagogue. He uses "plain folk logical fallacies" (argumentum ad populum ) to appeal to the common man. Privately-school educated then went in to Stockbroking, and yet "Man down the pub with a pint". Complete fabrication. . Should he be cancelled and taken off air ? Well, at what point do you have to say, "Enough is enough. The polarisation, the stoking of division, the incitement, has to end." Do you do it before the riots begin, during them, or afterwards in the burning ashes perhaps ?. Cleverer and more educated minds that I need to make that decision, legally if necessary. . I was going to mention his support and admiration of Trump, his comments on women in the workplace, his..but you know what, as important as those are, it's really his use/abuse of advertising to peddle his hatred and foster ill-will and hurt that really matters. You will have to lock him up to shut him up, Mr assange is still locked up to shut him up, the US legal system is being weaponized against mr trump to shut him up. Step back and question why. Why? Not asking myself, am asking you." My responses are limited please rephrase the question. | |||
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"Ok, NF. 1. "That" poster. The Chancellor at the time, George Osbourne called it "Vile" and that it was reminiscent of Nazi propaganda. BoJo disavowed the poster at the time, as he did not feel it had a place in their campaign nor politics. Both of them realised how politically toxic the message was, as well as how divisive and dehumanising it was. . 2. NF has been condemned by the Board of Deputies for using anti-semitic tropes. The CST which work to protect Jewish people in the UK said "This is not the first time that Nigel Farage has used language that evokes antisemitic conspiracy codewords, but the deeper problem is that this search for scapegoats will keep requiring new enemies and new excuses, moving the national debate into more polarising and dangerous places.” . I think it's patently obvious that NF uses scaremongering, division and incitement to provoke and polarise. Genuine concerns are raised by affected parties to his rhetoric. Even from within allied political establishments. . NF is a very canny operator. He knows exactly where the line is to avoid political obliteration. He's the absolute worst kind of demagogue. He uses "plain folk logical fallacies" (argumentum ad populum ) to appeal to the common man. Privately-school educated then went in to Stockbroking, and yet "Man down the pub with a pint". Complete fabrication. . Should he be cancelled and taken off air ? Well, at what point do you have to say, "Enough is enough. The polarisation, the stoking of division, the incitement, has to end." Do you do it before the riots begin, during them, or afterwards in the burning ashes perhaps ?. Cleverer and more educated minds that I need to make that decision, legally if necessary. . I was going to mention his support and admiration of Trump, his comments on women in the workplace, his..but you know what, as important as those are, it's really his use/abuse of advertising to peddle his hatred and foster ill-will and hurt that really matters. You will have to lock him up to shut him up, Mr assange is still locked up to shut him up, the US legal system is being weaponized against mr trump to shut him up. Step back and question why. Why? Not asking myself, am asking you. My responses are limited please rephrase the question. " Huh? | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP?" Not sure that's a good example of unpopular as its often said here and elsewhere that our first past the post system does not give a good representation and proportional representation is far more accurate. The only PR election I have seen was years ago at the EU elections where farage won and his party won several times by a big margin | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?"A. It's been answered. B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site. C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game? | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?"What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is? Where has he ever been against any immigration? | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?"Do you live in a parallel universe? | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?"I think you will find he hasn’t ever been against immigration and supports legal immigration… But you would need to drop any bias you might have, and look at this with fresh eyes. If you think I’m wrong, let me know where I’m wrong | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
I think you will find he hasn’t ever been against immigration and supports legal immigration… But you would need to drop any bias you might have, and look at this with fresh eyes.
If you think I’m wrong, let me know where I’m wrong "I'll be honest. I haven't got a clue what this weird tangent as got to do with people who find Farage's bullshit offensive. But if you feel like you've proved some kind of point. Fair play to you. | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?"Can you answer? | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
I think you will find he hasn’t ever been against immigration and supports legal immigration… But you would need to drop any bias you might have, and look at this with fresh eyes.
If you think I’m wrong, let me know where I’m wrong "Agreed As far as I am aware he has never been against immigration. Just a move to a points based system. | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
Can you answer?"Yes I can. You don't. It was a flippant comment to highlight the ridiculousness of what you're suggesting. | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
Can you answer?
Yes I can. You don't. It was a flippant comment to highlight the ridiculousness of what you're suggesting. "Glad we got that out of you then eventually that you lied. | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
Can you answer?
Yes I can. You don't. It was a flippant comment to highlight the ridiculousness of what you're suggesting.
Glad we got that out of you then eventually that you lied."I didn't lie, technically it was a question. Clearly I don't think you actually live in a parallel universe and that you use your trans-dimensional powers to post nonsense on the politics forum of a swingers site. Do you really think asking a question is telling a "lie"? | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
Can you answer?
Yes I can. You don't. It was a flippant comment to highlight the ridiculousness of what you're suggesting.
Glad we got that out of you then eventually that you lied.
I didn't lie, technically it was a question.
Clearly I don't think you actually live in a parallel universe and that you use your trans-dimensional powers to post nonsense on the politics forum of a swingers site.
Do you really think asking a question is telling a "lie"?""You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric. " Wheres the question? " | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
Can you answer?
Yes I can. You don't. It was a flippant comment to highlight the ridiculousness of what you're suggesting.
Glad we got that out of you then eventually that you lied.
I didn't lie, technically it was a question.
Clearly I don't think you actually live in a parallel universe and that you use your trans-dimensional powers to post nonsense on the politics forum of a swingers site.
Do you really think asking a question is telling a "lie"?
"You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric. "
Wheres the question?
""Why are you bringing that up? that's not what you were asking about. | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
Can you answer?
Yes I can. You don't. It was a flippant comment to highlight the ridiculousness of what you're suggesting.
Glad we got that out of you then eventually that you lied.
I didn't lie, technically it was a question.
Clearly I don't think you actually live in a parallel universe and that you use your trans-dimensional powers to post nonsense on the politics forum of a swingers site.
Do you really think asking a question is telling a "lie"?
"You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric. "
Wheres the question?
"
Why are you bringing that up?
that's not what you were asking about."This was you saying nigel was anti immigration. I asked where he was ever anti immigration. You went through about 10 posts not answering then finally admitted you lied. You are now telling me what I meant when I posted my query to you? | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
Can you answer?
Yes I can. You don't. It was a flippant comment to highlight the ridiculousness of what you're suggesting.
Glad we got that out of you then eventually that you lied.
I didn't lie, technically it was a question.
Clearly I don't think you actually live in a parallel universe and that you use your trans-dimensional powers to post nonsense on the politics forum of a swingers site.
Do you really think asking a question is telling a "lie"?
"You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric. "
Wheres the question?
"
Why are you bringing that up?
that's not what you were asking about.
This was you saying nigel was anti immigration.
I asked where he was ever anti immigration.
You went through about 10 posts not answering then finally admitted you lied.
You are now telling me what I meant when I posted my query to you?"I think you got lost somewhere. You asked if I lied when I asked if you lived in a parallel universe. Then you started accusing me of lying. It's just bizarre. | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
Can you answer?
Yes I can. You don't. It was a flippant comment to highlight the ridiculousness of what you're suggesting.
Glad we got that out of you then eventually that you lied.
I didn't lie, technically it was a question.
Clearly I don't think you actually live in a parallel universe and that you use your trans-dimensional powers to post nonsense on the politics forum of a swingers site.
Do you really think asking a question is telling a "lie"?
"You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric. "
Wheres the question?
"
Why are you bringing that up?
that's not what you were asking about.
This was you saying nigel was anti immigration.
I asked where he was ever anti immigration.
You went through about 10 posts not answering then finally admitted you lied.
You are now telling me what I meant when I posted my query to you?
I think you got lost somewhere. You asked if I lied when I asked if you lived in a parallel universe.
Then you started accusing me of lying.
It's just bizarre."No. I said you lied when you confirmed he was not anti immigration. A stance that you previously espoused. | |||
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
Can you answer?
Yes I can. You don't. It was a flippant comment to highlight the ridiculousness of what you're suggesting.
Glad we got that out of you then eventually that you lied.
I didn't lie, technically it was a question.
Clearly I don't think you actually live in a parallel universe and that you use your trans-dimensional powers to post nonsense on the politics forum of a swingers site.
Do you really think asking a question is telling a "lie"?
"You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric. "
Wheres the question?
"
Why are you bringing that up?
that's not what you were asking about.
This was you saying nigel was anti immigration.
I asked where he was ever anti immigration.
You went through about 10 posts not answering then finally admitted you lied.
You are now telling me what I meant when I posted my query to you?
I think you got lost somewhere. You asked if I lied when I asked if you lived in a parallel universe.
Then you started accusing me of lying.
It's just bizarre.
No.
I said you lied when you confirmed he was not anti immigration.
A stance that you previously espoused.
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
Can you answer?
Yes I can. You don't. It was a flippant comment to highlight the ridiculousness of what you're suggesting.
Glad we got that out of you then eventually that you lied.
I didn't lie, technically it was a question.
Clearly I don't think you actually live in a parallel universe and that you use your trans-dimensional powers to post nonsense on the politics forum of a swingers site.
Do you really think asking a question is telling a "lie"?
"You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric. "
Wheres the question?
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Why are you bringing that up?
that's not what you were asking about.
This was you saying nigel was anti immigration.
I asked where he was ever anti immigration.
You went through about 10 posts not answering then finally admitted you lied.
You are now telling me what I meant when I posted my query to you?
I think you got lost somewhere. You asked if I lied when I asked if you lived in a parallel universe.
Then you started accusing me of lying.
It's just bizarre.
No.
I said you lied when you confirmed he was not anti immigration.
A stance that you previously espoused.
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
Can you answer?
Yes I can. You don't. It was a flippant comment to highlight the ridiculousness of what you're suggesting.
Glad we got that out of you then eventually that you lied.
I didn't lie, technically it was a question.
Clearly I don't think you actually live in a parallel universe and that you use your trans-dimensional powers to post nonsense on the politics forum of a swingers site.
Do you really think asking a question is telling a "lie"?
"You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric. "
Wheres the question?
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Why are you bringing that up?
that's not what you were asking about.
This was you saying nigel was anti immigration.
I asked where he was ever anti immigration.
You went through about 10 posts not answering then finally admitted you lied.
You are now telling me what I meant when I posted my query to you?
I think you got lost somewhere. You asked if I lied when I asked if you lived in a parallel universe.
Then you started accusing me of lying.
It's just bizarre.
No.
I said you lied when you confirmed he was not anti immigration.
A stance that you previously espoused.
Why are you wasting your time?
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What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
Can you answer?
Yes I can. You don't. It was a flippant comment to highlight the ridiculousness of what you're suggesting.
Glad we got that out of you then eventually that you lied.
I didn't lie, technically it was a question.
Clearly I don't think you actually live in a parallel universe and that you use your trans-dimensional powers to post nonsense on the politics forum of a swingers site.
Do you really think asking a question is telling a "lie"?
"You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric. "
Wheres the question?
"
Why are you bringing that up?
that's not what you were asking about.
This was you saying nigel was anti immigration.
I asked where he was ever anti immigration.
You went through about 10 posts not answering then finally admitted you lied.
You are now telling me what I meant when I posted my query to you?
I think you got lost somewhere. You asked if I lied when I asked if you lived in a parallel universe.
Then you started accusing me of lying.
It's just bizarre.
No.
I said you lied when you confirmed he was not anti immigration.
A stance that you previously espoused.
Why are you wasting your time?
It's clear there is a poster here who does indeed live on a parallel universe. I don't think it's you
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"Why don’t they just call the phone line and vote him off? Like everyone else who doesn’t want someone to remain in the camp? Or just not watch the show. Because they don't want him winning and having a loud voice again Would winning this show give him a louder voice? I genuinely have no idea. Never watched this show or paid any attention to who is in it, or what they do afterwards. Yes it would. It would prove his vast popularity among the biritsh electorate. So popular that he failed 7 times to be elected as an MP? Yes. You can be a popular person and have many people support your voews and not get elected as an mp. They are not the same thing. You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric.
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Are you genuinely unaware who Farage is and the flavour of his rhetoric?
I’m not trying a gotcha, I’m trying to understand what he has said that is wrong and has caused so much hatred.
Honestly, don't know what planet you've been on if you don't know this.
Maybe answer the question?
A. It's been answered.
B. If someone doesn't know anything about Farage, a quick Google would be a better place to start than asking a randomer on a swingers site.
C. Maybe you would like to answer the question the other chap asked, and play the never ending irrelevant questions game?
What anti immigration rhetoric, can you be specific in what that is?
Where has he ever been against any immigration?
Do you live in a parallel universe?
Can you answer?
Yes I can. You don't. It was a flippant comment to highlight the ridiculousness of what you're suggesting.
Glad we got that out of you then eventually that you lied.
I didn't lie, technically it was a question.
Clearly I don't think you actually live in a parallel universe and that you use your trans-dimensional powers to post nonsense on the politics forum of a swingers site.
Do you really think asking a question is telling a "lie"?
"You're right. People voting for him on a reality TV show is a much more accurate indication of people who like him and/or support his anti-immigrant rhetoric. "
Wheres the question?
"
Why are you bringing that up?
that's not what you were asking about.
This was you saying nigel was anti immigration.
I asked where he was ever anti immigration.
You went through about 10 posts not answering then finally admitted you lied.
You are now telling me what I meant when I posted my query to you?
I think you got lost somewhere. You asked if I lied when I asked if you lived in a parallel universe.
Then you started accusing me of lying.
It's just bizarre.
No.
I said you lied when you confirmed he was not anti immigration.
A stance that you previously espoused.
Why are you wasting your time?
It's clear there is a poster here who does indeed live on a parallel universe. I don't think it's you
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around."Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties) A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour. | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour. "I won't listen to someone calling a pile on when said person will never accept it when pointed out to them. As for engaging, you stopped engaging long ago and now only push your conspiracy theories these days. | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
I won't listen to someone calling a pile on when said person will never accept it when pointed out to them.
As for engaging, you stopped engaging long ago and now only push your conspiracy theories these days. "So you admit it was a pile on
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
I won't listen to someone calling a pile on when said person will never accept it when pointed out to them.
As for engaging, you stopped engaging long ago and now only push your conspiracy theories these days. "I stopped replying to you a while ago because you were unable to discuss the topic and all your replies to me were personal insults and attacks, when I called you out the attacks intensified. So it was pointless to engage. Another person on this thread only uses the forums for personal attacks against me. The green arrow will show you, that's literally the only reason they post. I have no clue who they are or what their problem is. If you consider climate science, questioning the wisdom of Brexit, or expressing dissent as "conspiracy theories" that's fine. Not sure why that makes you want to just insult and attack me. The whole point of this forum is it's supposed to be fun. Others who vehemently disagree with me, and I with them, manage to keep it (mostly) civil. Fully aware this post is going to be reported and get me a forum ban. So good luck. Try to be civil to eachother. | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
I won't listen to someone calling a pile on when said person will never accept it when pointed out to them.
As for engaging, you stopped engaging long ago and now only push your conspiracy theories these days.
So you admit it was a pile on
Who was the conspiracy comment aimed at?"I don't admit it. I say I won't allow you to be the arbitrary voice on pile ons. | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
I won't listen to someone calling a pile on when said person will never accept it when pointed out to them.
As for engaging, you stopped engaging long ago and now only push your conspiracy theories these days.
I stopped replying to you a while ago because you were unable to discuss the topic and all your replies to me were personal insults and attacks, when I called you out the attacks intensified. So it was pointless to engage.
Another person on this thread only uses the forums for personal attacks against me. The green arrow will show you, that's literally the only reason they post. I have no clue who they are or what their problem is.
If you consider climate science, questioning the wisdom of Brexit, or expressing dissent as "conspiracy theories" that's fine. Not sure why that makes you want to just insult and attack me.
The whole point of this forum is it's supposed to be fun. Others who vehemently disagree with me, and I with them, manage to keep it (mostly) civil.
Fully aware this post is going to be reported and get me a forum ban. So good luck. Try to be civil to eachother.
"Oh poor Johnny, cries 'personal insults'. If you actually tried to engage, you may well just find people will be more willing to engage with yourself in return | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
I won't listen to someone calling a pile on when said person will never accept it when pointed out to them.
As for engaging, you stopped engaging long ago and now only push your conspiracy theories these days.
I stopped replying to you a while ago because you were unable to discuss the topic and all your replies to me were personal insults and attacks, when I called you out the attacks intensified. So it was pointless to engage.
Another person on this thread only uses the forums for personal attacks against me. The green arrow will show you, that's literally the only reason they post. I have no clue who they are or what their problem is.
If you consider climate science, questioning the wisdom of Brexit, or expressing dissent as "conspiracy theories" that's fine. Not sure why that makes you want to just insult and attack me.
The whole point of this forum is it's supposed to be fun. Others who vehemently disagree with me, and I with them, manage to keep it (mostly) civil.
Fully aware this post is going to be reported and get me a forum ban. So good luck. Try to be civil to eachother.
Oh poor Johnny, cries 'personal insults'. ". You can see why I'd stopped reading your posts or replying to you. " If you actually tried to engage, you may well just find people will be more willing to engage with yourself in return "The problem isn't "people" it's you, and it's the other person who only uses to forum to launch personal attacks. | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
I won't listen to someone calling a pile on when said person will never accept it when pointed out to them.
As for engaging, you stopped engaging long ago and now only push your conspiracy theories these days.
I stopped replying to you a while ago because you were unable to discuss the topic and all your replies to me were personal insults and attacks, when I called you out the attacks intensified. So it was pointless to engage.
Another person on this thread only uses the forums for personal attacks against me. The green arrow will show you, that's literally the only reason they post. I have no clue who they are or what their problem is.
If you consider climate science, questioning the wisdom of Brexit, or expressing dissent as "conspiracy theories" that's fine. Not sure why that makes you want to just insult and attack me.
The whole point of this forum is it's supposed to be fun. Others who vehemently disagree with me, and I with them, manage to keep it (mostly) civil.
Fully aware this post is going to be reported and get me a forum ban. So good luck. Try to be civil to eachother.
Oh poor Johnny, cries 'personal insults'. .
You can see why I'd stopped reading your posts or replying to you.
If you actually tried to engage, you may well just find people will be more willing to engage with yourself in return
The problem isn't "people" it's you, and it's the other person who only uses to forum to launch personal attacks.
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
I won't listen to someone calling a pile on when said person will never accept it when pointed out to them.
As for engaging, you stopped engaging long ago and now only push your conspiracy theories these days.
So you admit it was a pile on
Who was the conspiracy comment aimed at?
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour. "You have never been a genuine poster open for discussion. You lie. You then backtrack. And you become absurd and facetious. People pointing that out to you isn't a pile on. | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
I won't listen to someone calling a pile on when said person will never accept it when pointed out to them.
As for engaging, you stopped engaging long ago and now only push your conspiracy theories these days.
I stopped replying to you a while ago because you were unable to discuss the topic and all your replies to me were personal insults and attacks, when I called you out the attacks intensified. So it was pointless to engage.
Another person on this thread only uses the forums for personal attacks against me. The green arrow will show you, that's literally the only reason they post. I have no clue who they are or what their problem is.
If you consider climate science, questioning the wisdom of Brexit, or expressing dissent as "conspiracy theories" that's fine. Not sure why that makes you want to just insult and attack me.
The whole point of this forum is it's supposed to be fun. Others who vehemently disagree with me, and I with them, manage to keep it (mostly) civil.
Fully aware this post is going to be reported and get me a forum ban. So good luck. Try to be civil to eachother.
Oh poor Johnny, cries 'personal insults'. .
You can see why I'd stopped reading your posts or replying to you.
If you actually tried to engage, you may well just find people will be more willing to engage with yourself in return
The problem isn't "people" it's you, and it's the other person who only uses to forum to launch personal attacks.
Everything you're challenged you cry about 'personal insults'.
The problem isn't people but me and another? You realise the plural of person is person's or people "Ironic for the guy that love to throw then around too His favourite phrase for me is climate denier. Or apparently saying I live in a parallel universe | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
You have never been a genuine poster open for discussion.
"Just because I call out some of the absurd nonsense you post, doesn't mean I'm not here for genuine discussion. " You lie. " Do you have an example of this? " You then backtrack. " Or an example of this? " And you become absurd and facetious. People pointing that out to you isn't a pile on. " I haven't accused anyone of a "pile on", I was making fun of the concept as it exclusively gets applied to a minority of people, and then gets denied when a larger number abandon the discussion and just insult the poster. | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
I won't listen to someone calling a pile on when said person will never accept it when pointed out to them.
As for engaging, you stopped engaging long ago and now only push your conspiracy theories these days.
I stopped replying to you a while ago because you were unable to discuss the topic and all your replies to me were personal insults and attacks, when I called you out the attacks intensified. So it was pointless to engage.
Another person on this thread only uses the forums for personal attacks against me. The green arrow will show you, that's literally the only reason they post. I have no clue who they are or what their problem is.
If you consider climate science, questioning the wisdom of Brexit, or expressing dissent as "conspiracy theories" that's fine. Not sure why that makes you want to just insult and attack me.
The whole point of this forum is it's supposed to be fun. Others who vehemently disagree with me, and I with them, manage to keep it (mostly) civil.
Fully aware this post is going to be reported and get me a forum ban. So good luck. Try to be civil to eachother.
Oh poor Johnny, cries 'personal insults'. .
You can see why I'd stopped reading your posts or replying to you.
If you actually tried to engage, you may well just find people will be more willing to engage with yourself in return
The problem isn't "people" it's you, and it's the other person who only uses to forum to launch personal attacks.
Everything you're challenged you cry about 'personal insults'.
The problem isn't people but me and another? You realise the plural of person is person's or people
Ironic for the guy that love to throw then around too
His favourite phrase for me is climate denier.
Or apparently saying I live in a parallel universe "Do you understand the difference between attacking what someone said, and multiple people ignoring what was said, and just attacking the person? | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
You have never been a genuine poster open for discussion.
You lie.
You then backtrack.
And you become absurd and facetious.
People pointing that out to you isn't a pile on.
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
You have never been a genuine poster open for discussion.
You lie.
You then backtrack.
And you become absurd and facetious.
People pointing that out to you isn't a pile on.
Morley, you and Johnny were having your usual back and forth. That is all standard and normal. Then two other posters joined in to agree with you and criticise Johnny. That is a pile on."No its pointing out thatbhe insulted me accusing me of living in a parallel universe. And that they thought he was the one in it. If he doesn't like that, dont throw insults out. He was pointed out where he lied. He refused to acknowledge that. | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
You have never been a genuine poster open for discussion.
You lie.
You then backtrack.
And you become absurd and facetious.
People pointing that out to you isn't a pile on.
Morley, you and Johnny were having your usual back and forth. That is all standard and normal. Then two other posters joined in to agree with you and criticise Johnny. That is a pile on.
No its pointing out thatbhe insulted me accusing me of living in a parallel universe.
And that they thought he was the one in it.
If he doesn't like that, dont throw insults out.
He was pointed out where he lied.
He refused to acknowledge that."Just so we're 100% clear. You accused me of lying, but didn't explain what I am supposed to have lied about. And yes, multiple people joined in to have a go at me, not having a go at what I wrote. I asked you if you lived in a parallel universe to highlight your post being ridiculous. It was not intended as a personal insult. | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
You have never been a genuine poster open for discussion.
You lie.
You then backtrack.
And you become absurd and facetious.
People pointing that out to you isn't a pile on.
Morley, you and Johnny were having your usual back and forth. That is all standard and normal. Then two other posters joined in to agree with you and criticise Johnny. That is a pile on."I didn't criticise anyone in my post. I said 'why are you wasting your time?' 'someone here is living in a parallel universe' All directed towards Morley... So I think what your saying is, it's ok for one but not another? | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
You have never been a genuine poster open for discussion.
You lie.
You then backtrack.
And you become absurd and facetious.
People pointing that out to you isn't a pile on.
Morley, you and Johnny were having your usual back and forth. That is all standard and normal. Then two other posters joined in to agree with you and criticise Johnny. That is a pile on.
I didn't criticise anyone in my post. I said 'why are you wasting your time?' 'someone here is living in a parallel universe'
All directed towards Morley...
So I think what your saying is, it's ok for one but not another?"You joined in a conversation b/w Morley and Johnny to have a pop at Johnny by saying “why are you wasting your time” which is clearly a dig and cannot be isolated from your own posting history with Johnny. Then another poster came in and did something similar. That is a pile on as it is not about debating a topic but having a pop at the poster (no matter how subtle one tries to be). There were times in the past I played the man not the ball. I was told about it. I don’t think I have done it for a while (sure you will point out when I do). Just let Morley and Johnny duke it out. We can grab popcorn and watch. | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
You have never been a genuine poster open for discussion.
You lie.
You then backtrack.
And you become absurd and facetious.
People pointing that out to you isn't a pile on.
Morley, you and Johnny were having your usual back and forth. That is all standard and normal. Then two other posters joined in to agree with you and criticise Johnny. That is a pile on.
I didn't criticise anyone in my post. I said 'why are you wasting your time?' 'someone here is living in a parallel universe'
All directed towards Morley...
So I think what your saying is, it's ok for one but not another?
You joined in a conversation b/w Morley and Johnny to have a pop at Johnny by saying “why are you wasting your time” which is clearly a dig and cannot be isolated from your own posting history with Johnny.
Then another poster came in and did something similar. That is a pile on as it is not about debating a topic but having a pop at the poster (no matter how subtle one tries to be).
There were times in the past I played the man not the ball. I was told about it. I don’t think I have done it for a while (sure you will point out when I do).
Just let Morley and Johnny duke it out. We can grab popcorn and watch."I do think he is wasting his time. I do also think there's someone living on a parallel universe. If you wanna call that a pile on, then so be it. I'd much rather have debate but there is a certain poster here who isn't open to debate. Apologies for pointing that out. I'll bare in mind not to ask anyone a question in future. As it happens, 'having a pop at a poster' is something you're now engaging in | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
You have never been a genuine poster open for discussion.
You lie.
You then backtrack.
And you become absurd and facetious.
People pointing that out to you isn't a pile on.
Morley, you and Johnny were having your usual back and forth. That is all standard and normal. Then two other posters joined in to agree with you and criticise Johnny. That is a pile on.
I didn't criticise anyone in my post. I said 'why are you wasting your time?' 'someone here is living in a parallel universe'
All directed towards Morley...
So I think what your saying is, it's ok for one but not another?
You joined in a conversation b/w Morley and Johnny to have a pop at Johnny by saying “why are you wasting your time” which is clearly a dig and cannot be isolated from your own posting history with Johnny.
Then another poster came in and did something similar. That is a pile on as it is not about debating a topic but having a pop at the poster (no matter how subtle one tries to be).
There were times in the past I played the man not the ball. I was told about it. I don’t think I have done it for a while (sure you will point out when I do).
Just let Morley and Johnny duke it out. We can grab popcorn and watch.
I do think he is wasting his time. I do also think there's someone living on a parallel universe. If you wanna call that a pile on, then so be it.
I'd much rather have debate but there is a certain poster here who isn't open to debate. Apologies for pointing that out.
I'll bare in mind not to ask anyone a question in future.
As it happens, 'having a pop at a poster' is something you're now engaging in "I was going to say “touche” to your last comment but actually as the first person to raise the point on a “pile on” then it means I started the OP and cannot therefore “join in”! You all joined me | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
You have never been a genuine poster open for discussion.
You lie.
You then backtrack.
And you become absurd and facetious.
People pointing that out to you isn't a pile on.
Morley, you and Johnny were having your usual back and forth. That is all standard and normal. Then two other posters joined in to agree with you and criticise Johnny. That is a pile on.
I didn't criticise anyone in my post. I said 'why are you wasting your time?' 'someone here is living in a parallel universe'
All directed towards Morley...
So I think what your saying is, it's ok for one but not another?
You joined in a conversation b/w Morley and Johnny to have a pop at Johnny by saying “why are you wasting your time” which is clearly a dig and cannot be isolated from your own posting history with Johnny.
Then another poster came in and did something similar. That is a pile on as it is not about debating a topic but having a pop at the poster (no matter how subtle one tries to be).
There were times in the past I played the man not the ball. I was told about it. I don’t think I have done it for a while (sure you will point out when I do).
Just let Morley and Johnny duke it out. We can grab popcorn and watch.
I do think he is wasting his time. I do also think there's someone living on a parallel universe. If you wanna call that a pile on, then so be it.
I'd much rather have debate but there is a certain poster here who isn't open to debate. Apologies for pointing that out.
I'll bare in mind not to ask anyone a question in future.
As it happens, 'having a pop at a poster' is something you're now engaging in
I was going to say “touche” to your last comment but actually as the first person to raise the point on a “pile on” then it means I started the OP and cannot therefore “join in”! You all joined me "How did I know you would say something like that?
You are aware that the poster said it wasn't a pile on, maybe you're wrong on this one | |||
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"Pile on LOLZ
Poster accuses me of living in a parallel universe.
Not a pile on.
Just 3 people pointing out it's the other way around.
Correct, "pile on" is when one or two people point out how ridiculous someone's post is. (Exclusively reserved for people who the forum considers loony lefties)
A "pile on" is NOT, when 3 or 4 people stop even trying to engage and just attack the forum user, playing the player not the ball. Including people who exclusively use the forum to insult and personally attack said poster. Bonus points for secondary personal attacks and gaslighting when called out for their behaviour.
You have never been a genuine poster open for discussion.
You lie.
You then backtrack.
And you become absurd and facetious.
People pointing that out to you isn't a pile on.
Morley, you and Johnny were having your usual back and forth. That is all standard and normal. Then two other posters joined in to agree with you and criticise Johnny. That is a pile on.
I didn't criticise anyone in my post. I said 'why are you wasting your time?' 'someone here is living in a parallel universe'
All directed towards Morley...
So I think what your saying is, it's ok for one but not another?
You joined in a conversation b/w Morley and Johnny to have a pop at Johnny by saying “why are you wasting your time” which is clearly a dig and cannot be isolated from your own posting history with Johnny.
Then another poster came in and did something similar. That is a pile on as it is not about debating a topic but having a pop at the poster (no matter how subtle one tries to be).
There were times in the past I played the man not the ball. I was told about it. I don’t think I have done it for a while (sure you will point out when I do).
Just let Morley and Johnny duke it out. We can grab popcorn and watch.
I do think he is wasting his time. I do also think there's someone living on a parallel universe. If you wanna call that a pile on, then so be it.
I'd much rather have debate but there is a certain poster here who isn't open to debate. Apologies for pointing that out.
I'll bare in mind not to ask anyone a question in future.
As it happens, 'having a pop at a poster' is something you're now engaging in
I was going to say “touche” to your last comment but actually as the first person to raise the point on a “pile on” then it means I started the OP and cannot therefore “join in”! You all joined me
How did I know you would say something like that?
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