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"If you go to the site britpolitics, you'll see that consensus politics occasionally occurs. In time of an unprecedented crisis, consensus is a good thing providing the left and right ideologies align." I would have thought that when civil liberties have been taken away, livelihoods and education ruined, the health service and businesses shut down would be exactly the time when politicians and the media should be asking difficult questions. In fact all we got was failed blob group think and censorship. | |||
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"If you go to the site britpolitics, you'll see that consensus politics occasionally occurs. In time of an unprecedented crisis, consensus is a good thing providing the left and right ideologies align. I would have thought that when civil liberties have been taken away, livelihoods and education ruined, the health service and businesses shut down would be exactly the time when politicians and the media should be asking difficult questions. In fact all we got was failed blob group think and censorship." 100% agree | |||
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"In what way was there not a political “consensus” during Covid? Aside from a few questioning scientists and journalists I don’t recall any politicians or mainstream media disputing the action that the government was taking. The Covid “inquiry” is a sham. I could have saved the country £250 million and written it myself two years ago. " Not sure why you think it a sham for thousands of British families wanting answers to why their loved ones died and indeed if they needed to die. Serving in high office comes with responsibilities and in recent weeks failings of the Government because of the political decisions have been revealed. Refusing to discuss Covid with the Scots and Welsh because of political differences and refusing to engage with the Mayors of Liverpool and Manchester for the same reason. Prioritising Brexit over Covid for political ideology was admitted yesterday by Matt Hancock. A National Government that is representative of the entire country would have prevented the catalogue of mistakes that were made by an incompetent PM and his team that were chosen solely on their belief of Brexit. If proportional representation in some form finally comes about after all of this then maybe some good will come for future generations. | |||
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"In what way was there not a political “consensus” during Covid? Aside from a few questioning scientists and journalists I don’t recall any politicians or mainstream media disputing the action that the government was taking. The Covid “inquiry” is a sham. I could have saved the country £250 million and written it myself two years ago. Not sure why you think it a sham for thousands of British families wanting answers to why their loved ones died and indeed if they needed to die. Serving in high office comes with responsibilities and in recent weeks failings of the Government because of the political decisions have been revealed. Refusing to discuss Covid with the Scots and Welsh because of political differences and refusing to engage with the Mayors of Liverpool and Manchester for the same reason. Prioritising Brexit over Covid for political ideology was admitted yesterday by Matt Hancock. A National Government that is representative of the entire country would have prevented the catalogue of mistakes that were made by an incompetent PM and his team that were chosen solely on their belief of Brexit. If proportional representation in some form finally comes about after all of this then maybe some good will come for future generations." What I’d like answers to is why for the tens of millions of us for whom Covid was never any kind of risk were forced to “lock down” and lose thousands and (in my case) tens or hundreds of thousands of pounds of income, and to have our lives put on hold for years, for absolutely no reason at all. Schooling ruined for millions, a health service in chaos, businesses trashed. The key question the inquiry should be looking at is whether the right cost benefit analysis was undertaken and what should be done in similar circumstances in the future. We all know of course that this isn’t what the inquiry wants to know because it won’t like the answer. As far as a “Government of National Unity” is concerned, that is exactly what we had. The other parties supported the Tories every step of the way. And of course it wasn’t “representative of the entire country” as it didn’t represent the views of those of us (including many respected scientists and economists) who actually wanted the government to follow the science rather than follow politicised group think and do what the Chinese funded WHO told them to. | |||
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"In what way was there not a political “consensus” during Covid? Aside from a few questioning scientists and journalists I don’t recall any politicians or mainstream media disputing the action that the government was taking. The Covid “inquiry” is a sham. I could have saved the country £250 million and written it myself two years ago. Not sure why you think it a sham for thousands of British families wanting answers to why their loved ones died and indeed if they needed to die. Serving in high office comes with responsibilities and in recent weeks failings of the Government because of the political decisions have been revealed. Refusing to discuss Covid with the Scots and Welsh because of political differences and refusing to engage with the Mayors of Liverpool and Manchester for the same reason. Prioritising Brexit over Covid for political ideology was admitted yesterday by Matt Hancock. A National Government that is representative of the entire country would have prevented the catalogue of mistakes that were made by an incompetent PM and his team that were chosen solely on their belief of Brexit. If proportional representation in some form finally comes about after all of this then maybe some good will come for future generations. What I’d like answers to is why for the tens of millions of us for whom Covid was never any kind of risk were forced to “lock down” and lose thousands and (in my case) tens or hundreds of thousands of pounds of income, and to have our lives put on hold for years, for absolutely no reason at all. Schooling ruined for millions, a health service in chaos, businesses trashed. The key question the inquiry should be looking at is whether the right cost benefit analysis was undertaken and what should be done in similar circumstances in the future. We all know of course that this isn’t what the inquiry wants to know because it won’t like the answer. As far as a “Government of National Unity” is concerned, that is exactly what we had. The other parties supported the Tories every step of the way. And of course it wasn’t “representative of the entire country” as it didn’t represent the views of those of us (including many respected scientists and economists) who actually wanted the government to follow the science rather than follow politicised group think and do what the Chinese funded WHO told them to." I agree with this 
We need to see an output from this that covers the inevitable reoccurrence of such an outbreak.
I would like to see lessons learned that get the nation ready and knowing what is going to be asked of them. Let those who face little risk carry on their business and focus protection on those that are most at risk.
To write that seems ridiculously simple, why did they get it wrong and still don’t seem to understand how they got it wrong…. | |||
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"In what way was there not a political “consensus” during Covid? Aside from a few questioning scientists and journalists I don’t recall any politicians or mainstream media disputing the action that the government was taking. The Covid “inquiry” is a sham. I could have saved the country £250 million and written it myself two years ago. Not sure why you think it a sham for thousands of British families wanting answers to why their loved ones died and indeed if they needed to die. Serving in high office comes with responsibilities and in recent weeks failings of the Government because of the political decisions have been revealed. Refusing to discuss Covid with the Scots and Welsh because of political differences and refusing to engage with the Mayors of Liverpool and Manchester for the same reason. Prioritising Brexit over Covid for political ideology was admitted yesterday by Matt Hancock. A National Government that is representative of the entire country would have prevented the catalogue of mistakes that were made by an incompetent PM and his team that were chosen solely on their belief of Brexit. If proportional representation in some form finally comes about after all of this then maybe some good will come for future generations. What I’d like answers to is why for the tens of millions of us for whom Covid was never any kind of risk were forced to “lock down” and lose thousands and (in my case) tens or hundreds of thousands of pounds of income, and to have our lives put on hold for years, for absolutely no reason at all. Schooling ruined for millions, a health service in chaos, businesses trashed. The key question the inquiry should be looking at is whether the right cost benefit analysis was undertaken and what should be done in similar circumstances in the future. We all know of course that this isn’t what the inquiry wants to know because it won’t like the answer. As far as a “Government of National Unity” is concerned, that is exactly what we had. The other parties supported the Tories every step of the way. And of course it wasn’t “representative of the entire country” as it didn’t represent the views of those of us (including many respected scientists and economists) who actually wanted the government to follow the science rather than follow politicised group think and do what the Chinese funded WHO told them to. I agree with this
We need to see an output from this that covers the inevitable reoccurrence of such an outbreak.
I would like to see lessons learned that get the nation ready and knowing what is going to be asked of them. Let those who face little risk carry on their business and focus protection on those that are most at risk.
To write that seems ridiculously simple, why did they get it wrong and still don’t seem to understand how they got it wrong…."for me the killer bit in one of the comments was "a health service in chaos". That was despite restrictions. The ability to cope here was out biggest weak link, and I think that stands regardless of where you draw the line between restricting deaths and restricting freedoms. | |||
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"In what way was there not a political “consensus” during Covid? Aside from a few questioning scientists and journalists I don’t recall any politicians or mainstream media disputing the action that the government was taking. The Covid “inquiry” is a sham. I could have saved the country £250 million and written it myself two years ago. Not sure why you think it a sham for thousands of British families wanting answers to why their loved ones died and indeed if they needed to die. Serving in high office comes with responsibilities and in recent weeks failings of the Government because of the political decisions have been revealed. Refusing to discuss Covid with the Scots and Welsh because of political differences and refusing to engage with the Mayors of Liverpool and Manchester for the same reason. Prioritising Brexit over Covid for political ideology was admitted yesterday by Matt Hancock. A National Government that is representative of the entire country would have prevented the catalogue of mistakes that were made by an incompetent PM and his team that were chosen solely on their belief of Brexit. If proportional representation in some form finally comes about after all of this then maybe some good will come for future generations. What I’d like answers to is why for the tens of millions of us for whom Covid was never any kind of risk were forced to “lock down” and lose thousands and (in my case) tens or hundreds of thousands of pounds of income, and to have our lives put on hold for years, for absolutely no reason at all. Schooling ruined for millions, a health service in chaos, businesses trashed. The key question the inquiry should be looking at is whether the right cost benefit analysis was undertaken and what should be done in similar circumstances in the future. We all know of course that this isn’t what the inquiry wants to know because it won’t like the answer. As far as a “Government of National Unity” is concerned, that is exactly what we had. The other parties supported the Tories every step of the way. And of course it wasn’t “representative of the entire country” as it didn’t represent the views of those of us (including many respected scientists and economists) who actually wanted the government to follow the science rather than follow politicised group think and do what the Chinese funded WHO told them to." I think we heard last week from eminently more qualified people than those who write on here that a lockdown three weeks earlier would have saved thousands of lives because it would have limited community transmission amongst those least at risk, but who were subsequently in the line of transmission to those who were more vulnerable. It seems a bit harsh in my opinion to demand absolute freedoms for yourself whilst putting others in harms way because it impinges on your personal rights. | |||
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"It seems a bit harsh in my opinion to demand absolute freedoms for yourself whilst putting others in harms way because it impinges on your personal rights." The motor car kills people every day, and yet we allow people to use them because of the immense benefits they bring to individuals and society. We have made the decision that the benefits of the motor car outweigh the costs, even though those costs are the deaths of women and children. Crippling the country to save one extra life from CoViD would have been a bad decision. The correct path is to minimise the death toll, while placing as few restrictions on society as possible. | |||
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"In what way was there not a political “consensus” during Covid? Aside from a few questioning scientists and journalists I don’t recall any politicians or mainstream media disputing the action that the government was taking. The Covid “inquiry” is a sham. I could have saved the country £250 million and written it myself two years ago. Not sure why you think it a sham for thousands of British families wanting answers to why their loved ones died and indeed if they needed to die. Serving in high office comes with responsibilities and in recent weeks failings of the Government because of the political decisions have been revealed. Refusing to discuss Covid with the Scots and Welsh because of political differences and refusing to engage with the Mayors of Liverpool and Manchester for the same reason. Prioritising Brexit over Covid for political ideology was admitted yesterday by Matt Hancock. A National Government that is representative of the entire country would have prevented the catalogue of mistakes that were made by an incompetent PM and his team that were chosen solely on their belief of Brexit. If proportional representation in some form finally comes about after all of this then maybe some good will come for future generations. What I’d like answers to is why for the tens of millions of us for whom Covid was never any kind of risk were forced to “lock down” and lose thousands and (in my case) tens or hundreds of thousands of pounds of income, and to have our lives put on hold for years, for absolutely no reason at all. Schooling ruined for millions, a health service in chaos, businesses trashed. The key question the inquiry should be looking at is whether the right cost benefit analysis was undertaken and what should be done in similar circumstances in the future. We all know of course that this isn’t what the inquiry wants to know because it won’t like the answer. As far as a “Government of National Unity” is concerned, that is exactly what we had. The other parties supported the Tories every step of the way. And of course it wasn’t “representative of the entire country” as it didn’t represent the views of those of us (including many respected scientists and economists) who actually wanted the government to follow the science rather than follow politicised group think and do what the Chinese funded WHO told them to. I think we heard last week from eminently more qualified people than those who write on here that a lockdown three weeks earlier would have saved thousands of lives because it would have limited community transmission amongst those least at risk, but who were subsequently in the line of transmission to those who were more vulnerable. It seems a bit harsh in my opinion to demand absolute freedoms for yourself whilst putting others in harms way because it impinges on your personal rights." Plenty of eminent and qualified people have argued that lockdown was a waste of time and that face masks don’t work. As indeed we were initially told by government scientists back in March 2020. How many lives did lockdown save and at what financial cost? Every day the NHS decides what treatment to give people based on what the benefit will be compared to the cost to the taxpayer. Why was no similar cost benefit analysis made with lockdowns? How many deaths has lockdown caused, what has the cost been, not only financial costs in terms of government debt, inflation, interest rates, but the costs in terms of mental health, long term sickness and absence from work, people disappearing from the jobs market, lost schooling, a failed health system, closed businesses? Why do excess death rates continue to be high and why are there no daily press conferences about it? I was perfectly happy to have my freedoms restricted in a sensible way. The tiny group at risk should have been quarantined with government support. The vast majority of us who were not at risk should have carried on. But none of these questions will be asked or answered by this Inquiry. The concluding narrative was decided a long time ago and the rest is just very expensive theatre. | |||
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"Are we the only country in the world having a COVID enquiry? I'm really what good is going to come out of it? Lot's of finger pointing, blaming and sloping shoulders. All I hope is that at a governmental level lessons have been learnt how to deal with such a crisis again,a a system in place where a department who is solely responsible for crisis management separate from whatever government is in power they have continuity so that everyone is trained and understands their roles and have an leader who has been granted the power through agreement by all major parties,the lord's and the crown to be able to override decisions made by politicians if they are detrimental to public health,but only in matters of the utmost importance. Let politicians bicker, let professionals take charge if the situation calls for it." The only lessons the government learned was how to be more efficient in sending tax payers money to their friends and neighbours. If there is another pandemic, you can expect them to be even more ruthless about it. | |||
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"Are we the only country in the world having a COVID enquiry? All I hope is that at a governmental level lessons have been learnt ..." The whole point of the inquiry is to learn the lessons. We get all the people involved to tell us what they did and why, and then figure out what didn't work, and how to do it better next time. Not that you'd know that from the media coverage. They've been presenting it as a trial, and pitting one piece of evidence against another. And the witnesses know that's going to happen, so they get their jabs in early, to try to protect themselves. We would have been better off holding the inquiry behind closed doors. That way at least the witnesses would have been able to tell the truth, and we might have come to a better understanding. | |||
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"Are we the only country in the world having a COVID enquiry? All I hope is that at a governmental level lessons have been learnt ... The whole point of the inquiry is to learn the lessons. We get all the people involved to tell us what they did and why, and then figure out what didn't work, and how to do it better next time. Not that you'd know that from the media coverage. They've been presenting it as a trial, and pitting one piece of evidence against another. And the witnesses know that's going to happen, so they get their jabs in early, to try to protect themselves. We would have been better off holding the inquiry behind closed doors. That way at least the witnesses would have been able to tell the truth, and we might have come to a better understanding." Well having watched the inquiry live a few times, IT IS conducted like a trial with a KC asking leading questions and clearly setting traps. Unsurprisingly, participants are guarded and evasive in their responses. Completely the wrong forum to 'learn lessons' imho. | |||
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"Are we the only country in the world having a COVID enquiry? All I hope is that at a governmental level lessons have been learnt ... The whole point of the inquiry is to learn the lessons. We get all the people involved to tell us what they did and why, and then figure out what didn't work, and how to do it better next time. Not that you'd know that from the media coverage. They've been presenting it as a trial, and pitting one piece of evidence against another. And the witnesses know that's going to happen, so they get their jabs in early, to try to protect themselves. We would have been better off holding the inquiry behind closed doors. That way at least the witnesses would have been able to tell the truth, and we might have come to a better understanding." Absolutely agree. | |||
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"Are we the only country in the world having a COVID enquiry? All I hope is that at a governmental level lessons have been learnt ... The whole point of the inquiry is to learn the lessons. We get all the people involved to tell us what they did and why, and then figure out what didn't work, and how to do it better next time. Not that you'd know that from the media coverage. They've been presenting it as a trial, and pitting one piece of evidence against another. And the witnesses know that's going to happen, so they get their jabs in early, to try to protect themselves. We would have been better off holding the inquiry behind closed doors. That way at least the witnesses would have been able to tell the truth, and we might have come to a better understanding. Absolutely agree." | |||
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"Did anyone else see when it was michael goves turn to talk? I thought that he was very brave, he started of by saying "We werent as prepared as we should of been ideally" then he said "that a significant big body of judgment is saying that the virus was man made" then michael got interrupted by the councillor and he replied to him with saying "Dont even go there". If I was the councillor. I would of said, that was interesting, you have some evidence for that, what is that evidence, lets examine that." And that would be the end of the conversation, because there is no scientific evidence to suggest it was manmade. | |||
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"Give is slippier than an eel covered in butter.." There’s something strangely erotic about that saying...no not Gove the eel! Stop sniggering at the back  | |||
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"Give is slippier than an eel covered in butter.. There’s something strangely erotic about that saying...no not Gove the eel! Stop sniggering at the back "I can sort of relate to that..  | |||
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"Did anyone else see when it was michael goves turn to talk? I thought that he was very brave, he started of by saying "We werent as prepared as we should of been ideally" then he said "that a significant big body of judgment is saying that the virus was man made" then michael got interrupted by the councillor and he replied to him with saying "Dont even go there". If I was the councillor. I would of said, that was interesting, you have some evidence for that, what is that evidence, lets examine that." Then you would not have been doing your job. The inquiry is not about what the source of COVID was but how the govt acted re the pandemic. If some people's views impeded govt action, then it becomes relevant. | |||
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"Oh the wee one was fighting back the crocodile tears today, poor thing felt an overwhelming sense of responsibility as first minister. I must say that felt like a well rehearsed line." Yes look at a picture of her and hancock side by side.When you copy someone make it look less obvious | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc" You are still talking about Sturgeon I presume in the first sentence | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc" Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection?" Not sure he said the pandemic was a mild infection, where did you get that from?, He might be saying covid was a mild infection in his opinion. | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection?" As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... " If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest " Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps" We all saw what was happening in Italy a couple of weeks ahead of us, didn’t we? What evidence exactly would you have liked? | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps We all saw what was happening in Italy a couple of weeks ahead of us, didn’t we? What evidence exactly would you have liked?" Like I've stated, use evidence what did they die off rather then what with, plus average age | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps We all saw what was happening in Italy a couple of weeks ahead of us, didn’t we? What evidence exactly would you have liked? Like I've stated, use evidence what did they die off rather then what with, plus average age " I believe in trusting medical experts on such topics, don’t you? | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps We all saw what was happening in Italy a couple of weeks ahead of us, didn’t we? What evidence exactly would you have liked? Like I've stated, use evidence what did they die off rather then what with, plus average age I believe in trusting medical experts on such topics, don’t you? " Nope, follow the evidence and then the money | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps We all saw what was happening in Italy a couple of weeks ahead of us, didn’t we? What evidence exactly would you have liked? Like I've stated, use evidence what did they die off rather then what with, plus average age I believe in trusting medical experts on such topics, don’t you? Nope, follow the evidence and then the money" Ah, I see. I think we’re done here. I’ve spent too much time engaging with folks who don’t understand reasonably basic information about the nature of Covid and communicable illness. | |||
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"In any event when all deaths are analysed it would appear that the average loss of life was three months as victims were predominantly elderly . " Ah well, that’s alright then.  | |||
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"In any event when all deaths are analysed it would appear that the average loss of life was three months as victims were predominantly elderly . Ah well, that’s alright then. ". No one said it was alright , it was an objective analysis of the facts . However the government did everything possible to save lives. | |||
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"In any event when all deaths are analysed it would appear that the average loss of life was three months as victims were predominantly elderly . Ah well, that’s alright then. . No one said it was alright , it was an objective analysis of the facts . However the government did everything possible to save lives. "No they didn't.. FFS pat look at what's already out in the public domain about Hancock and sending COVID positive residents from hospitals to care homes.. Unlawful as judged by the High Court.. And it happened after Public health England informed him it shouldn't happen but he as the person at the top later said I didn't see this advice.. | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps" What I'm asking is what would you do if it was your decision (I'm ignoring benefit of hindsight). What would using "actual evidence" do to change, how you put it, money spunked that the workers will pay back? What would you suggest to do instead. | |||
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"In what way was there not a political “consensus” during Covid? Aside from a few questioning scientists and journalists I don’t recall any politicians or mainstream media disputing the action that the government was taking. The Covid “inquiry” is a sham. I could have saved the country £250 million and written it myself two years ago. Not sure why you think it a sham for thousands of British families wanting answers to why their loved ones died and indeed if they needed to die. Serving in high office comes with responsibilities and in recent weeks failings of the Government because of the political decisions have been revealed. Refusing to discuss Covid with the Scots and Welsh because of political differences and refusing to engage with the Mayors of Liverpool and Manchester for the same reason. Prioritising Brexit over Covid for political ideology was admitted yesterday by Matt Hancock. A National Government that is representative of the entire country would have prevented the catalogue of mistakes that were made by an incompetent PM and his team that were chosen solely on their belief of Brexit. If proportional representation in some form finally comes about after all of this then maybe some good will come for future generations. What I’d like answers to is why for the tens of millions of us for whom Covid was never any kind of risk were forced to “lock down” and lose thousands and (in my case) tens or hundreds of thousands of pounds of income, and to have our lives put on hold for years, for absolutely no reason at all. Schooling ruined for millions, a health service in chaos, businesses trashed. The key question the inquiry should be looking at is whether the right cost benefit analysis was undertaken and what should be done in similar circumstances in the future. We all know of course that this isn’t what the inquiry wants to know because it won’t like the answer. As far as a “Government of National Unity” is concerned, that is exactly what we had. The other parties supported the Tories every step of the way. And of course it wasn’t “representative of the entire country” as it didn’t represent the views of those of us (including many respected scientists and economists) who actually wanted the government to follow the science rather than follow politicised group think and do what the Chinese funded WHO told them to." There is a lovely saying for you. "There but for the grace of God go I" | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps What I'm asking is what would you do if it was your decision (I'm ignoring benefit of hindsight). What would using "actual evidence" do to change, how you put it, money spunked that the workers will pay back? What would you suggest to do instead. " Always have a look how other states acted, Sweden, florida, south dakota ... | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps What I'm asking is what would you do if it was your decision (I'm ignoring benefit of hindsight). What would using "actual evidence" do to change, how you put it, money spunked that the workers will pay back? What would you suggest to do instead. Always have a look how other states acted, Sweden, florida, south dakota ..." Florida? You mean the place that was literally the Covid capital of the world for a good while? | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps What I'm asking is what would you do if it was your decision (I'm ignoring benefit of hindsight). What would using "actual evidence" do to change, how you put it, money spunked that the workers will pay back? What would you suggest to do instead. Always have a look how other states acted, Sweden, florida, south dakota ... Florida? You mean the place that was literally the Covid capital of the world for a good while? " For how long? ?? | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps What I'm asking is what would you do if it was your decision (I'm ignoring benefit of hindsight). What would using "actual evidence" do to change, how you put it, money spunked that the workers will pay back? What would you suggest to do instead. Always have a look how other states acted, Sweden, florida, south dakota ... Florida? You mean the place that was literally the Covid capital of the world for a good while? For how long? ?? " Seriously? Does that matter? Florida was a Covid gang-fuck. | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps What I'm asking is what would you do if it was your decision (I'm ignoring benefit of hindsight). What would using "actual evidence" do to change, how you put it, money spunked that the workers will pay back? What would you suggest to do instead. Always have a look how other states acted, Sweden, florida, south dakota ... Florida? You mean the place that was literally the Covid capital of the world for a good while? For how long? ?? Seriously? Does that matter? Florida was a Covid gang-fuck." In 2020, Florida was one of the lowest states in deaths per capita. In 2021, they were in the top half. You should check the stats. | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps What I'm asking is what would you do if it was your decision (I'm ignoring benefit of hindsight). What would using "actual evidence" do to change, how you put it, money spunked that the workers will pay back? What would you suggest to do instead. Always have a look how other states acted, Sweden, florida, south dakota ... Florida? You mean the place that was literally the Covid capital of the world for a good while? For how long? ?? Seriously? Does that matter? Florida was a Covid gang-fuck. In 2020, Florida was one of the lowest states in deaths per capita. In 2021, they were in the top half. You should check the stats. " In 2022 they led the USA for months in a row. | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps What I'm asking is what would you do if it was your decision (I'm ignoring benefit of hindsight). What would using "actual evidence" do to change, how you put it, money spunked that the workers will pay back? What would you suggest to do instead. Always have a look how other states acted, Sweden, florida, south dakota ... Florida? You mean the place that was literally the Covid capital of the world for a good while? For how long? ?? Seriously? Does that matter? Florida was a Covid gang-fuck. In 2020, Florida was one of the lowest states in deaths per capita. In 2021, they were in the top half. You should check the stats. " “ The state’s COVID death toll grew by 1,614 people in August, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data shows. As coronavirus omicron subvariants swept the state this summer, Florida fatalities topped the nation from June through August. It’s also the third summer in a row Florida has been No. 1 for COVID deaths. The state became the national epicenter for the disease in August 2020, after Gov. Ron DeSantis began allowing businesses and public places to reopen. The state again became the COVID fatality capital of America last year in July and August, months after state officials suspended all remaining pandemic restrictions” https://eu.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2022/09/02/florida-leads-nation-covid-deaths-though-cases-keep-declining/7904033001/ | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps What I'm asking is what would you do if it was your decision (I'm ignoring benefit of hindsight). What would using "actual evidence" do to change, how you put it, money spunked that the workers will pay back? What would you suggest to do instead. Always have a look how other states acted, Sweden, florida, south dakota ... Florida? You mean the place that was literally the Covid capital of the world for a good while? For how long? ?? Seriously? Does that matter? Florida was a Covid gang-fuck. In 2020, Florida was one of the lowest states in deaths per capita. In 2021, they were in the top half. You should check the stats. “ The state’s COVID death toll grew by 1,614 people in August, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data shows. As coronavirus omicron subvariants swept the state this summer, Florida fatalities topped the nation from June through August. It’s also the third summer in a row Florida has been No. 1 for COVID deaths. The state became the national epicenter for the disease in August 2020, after Gov. Ron DeSantis began allowing businesses and public places to reopen. The state again became the COVID fatality capital of America last year in July and August, months after state officials suspended all remaining pandemic restrictions” https://eu.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2022/09/02/florida-leads-nation-covid-deaths-though-cases-keep-declining/7904033001/ " You can of course pick out certain stats to back up your argument. Have a look at it as a whole. | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps What I'm asking is what would you do if it was your decision (I'm ignoring benefit of hindsight). What would using "actual evidence" do to change, how you put it, money spunked that the workers will pay back? What would you suggest to do instead. Always have a look how other states acted, Sweden, florida, south dakota ... Florida? You mean the place that was literally the Covid capital of the world for a good while? For how long? ?? Seriously? Does that matter? Florida was a Covid gang-fuck. In 2020, Florida was one of the lowest states in deaths per capita. In 2021, they were in the top half. You should check the stats. “ The state’s COVID death toll grew by 1,614 people in August, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data shows. As coronavirus omicron subvariants swept the state this summer, Florida fatalities topped the nation from June through August. It’s also the third summer in a row Florida has been No. 1 for COVID deaths. The state became the national epicenter for the disease in August 2020, after Gov. Ron DeSantis began allowing businesses and public places to reopen. The state again became the COVID fatality capital of America last year in July and August, months after state officials suspended all remaining pandemic restrictions” https://eu.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2022/09/02/florida-leads-nation-covid-deaths-though-cases-keep-declining/7904033001/ " Ahh florida, the sunshine state where the elderly retire to? Wonder how many died with or because off? Didn't california lock down completely, wonder how there figures were? | |||
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"Wouldn't even bother watching to be honest, nothing will change, money was spunked all over, knowing the workers will pay it back ... over a mild infection, before anyone starts griping, look at the evidence and the wording, average death etc Are you saying the pandemic was a mild infection? As I said, look at the evidence, average age of death, how many died off covid, rather then with ... If you had it your way, what would you have done in Jan/Feb 2020. What if anything would you change about it, the way it was handled? Just out of interest Use actual evidence for a start, that normally helps What I'm asking is what would you do if it was your decision (I'm ignoring benefit of hindsight). What would using "actual evidence" do to change, how you put it, money spunked that the workers will pay back? What would you suggest to do instead. Always have a look how other states acted, Sweden, florida, south dakota ... Florida? You mean the place that was literally the Covid capital of the world for a good while? For how long? ?? Seriously? Does that matter? Florida was a Covid gang-fuck. In 2020, Florida was one of the lowest states in deaths per capita. In 2021, they were in the top half. You should check the stats. “ The state’s COVID death toll grew by 1,614 people in August, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data shows. As coronavirus omicron subvariants swept the state this summer, Florida fatalities topped the nation from June through August. It’s also the third summer in a row Florida has been No. 1 for COVID deaths. The state became the national epicenter for the disease in August 2020, after Gov. Ron DeSantis began allowing businesses and public places to reopen. The state again became the COVID fatality capital of America last year in July and August, months after state officials suspended all remaining pandemic restrictions” https://eu.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2022/09/02/florida-leads-nation-covid-deaths-though-cases-keep-declining/7904033001/ Ahh florida, the sunshine state where the elderly retire to? Wonder how many died with or because off? Didn't california lock down completely, wonder how there figures were?" Pretty well in comparison actually tbf | |||
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"In any event when all deaths are analysed it would appear that the average loss of life was three months as victims were predominantly elderly . Ah well, that’s alright then. . No one said it was alright , it was an objective analysis of the facts . However the government did everything possible to save lives. "Comedy gold | |||
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