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"Or did you not join the dots? Israel confirms that the initial numbers of Israeli dead from the 7th October attacks has been reduced by approx 200 to 1200. So, IIRC I questioned these initial figures as I said “If Israel has 200 or so missing & there’s 200 or so burnt bodies in the morgues then logic dictates That Hamas haven’t taken many at all & nothing like the 200+ numbers given”. Remember all the teeth gnashing about “bound & burnt bodies” people being “Set on fire & burnt alive”. & other atrocities. The filmed interview complete with crispy bodies from the chief pathologist at one of the labs. Well how about asking the IDF if this was fact or fiction because virtually all those burnt bodies are Hamas fighters apparently from missile strikes & subsequent fires according to Israel themselves. No one talking about whether the bound & crispy were Israeli or Hamas, if not, why not? Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S" You have a lot of anger, I mean a lot! Your opening posts after oct 7th we’re Israel allowed the attack to happen, and they knew it was coming. Now your attacking the Israeli numbers because they have 1200 dead, not 1400…. Jeez….. | |||
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"Or did you not join the dots? Israel confirms that the initial numbers of Israeli dead from the 7th October attacks has been reduced by approx 200 to 1200. So, IIRC I questioned these initial figures as I said “If Israel has 200 or so missing & there’s 200 or so burnt bodies in the morgues then logic dictates That Hamas haven’t taken many at all & nothing like the 200+ numbers given”. Remember all the teeth gnashing about “bound & burnt bodies” people being “Set on fire & burnt alive”. & other atrocities. The filmed interview complete with crispy bodies from the chief pathologist at one of the labs. Well how about asking the IDF if this was fact or fiction because virtually all those burnt bodies are Hamas fighters apparently from missile strikes & subsequent fires according to Israel themselves. No one talking about whether the bound & crispy were Israeli or Hamas, if not, why not? Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S You have a lot of anger, I mean a lot! Your opening posts after oct 7th we’re Israel allowed the attack to happen, and they knew it was coming. Now your attacking the Israeli numbers because they have 1200 dead, not 1400…. Jeez….." 1400 is rather a drop in the ocean now though, it’ll be 10/1 soon enough are you not angry about that too? S | |||
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"Or did you not join the dots? Israel confirms that the initial numbers of Israeli dead from the 7th October attacks has been reduced by approx 200 to 1200. So, IIRC I questioned these initial figures as I said “If Israel has 200 or so missing & there’s 200 or so burnt bodies in the morgues then logic dictates That Hamas haven’t taken many at all & nothing like the 200+ numbers given”. Remember all the teeth gnashing about “bound & burnt bodies” people being “Set on fire & burnt alive”. & other atrocities. The filmed interview complete with crispy bodies from the chief pathologist at one of the labs. Well how about asking the IDF if this was fact or fiction because virtually all those burnt bodies are Hamas fighters apparently from missile strikes & subsequent fires according to Israel themselves. No one talking about whether the bound & crispy were Israeli or Hamas, if not, why not? Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S You have a lot of anger, I mean a lot! Your opening posts after oct 7th we’re Israel allowed the attack to happen, and they knew it was coming. Now your attacking the Israeli numbers because they have 1200 dead, not 1400…. Jeez….. 1400 is rather a drop in the ocean now though, it’ll be 10/1 soon enough are you not angry about that too? S" oh dear... You have not for the first time lost me... All innocent loss of life is terrible, but who has condemned the lack of death or called for more? shouting down Israel for announcing their figures were not as first reported 1400 lost on Oct 7th, and is now 1200, leads you onto calling them liars, and proving Hamas didn't take many people. I may be misreading you as I said, I am lost in your posts, but you come across as trying to defend Hamas. | |||
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"Or did you not join the dots? Israel confirms that the initial numbers of Israeli dead from the 7th October attacks has been reduced by approx 200 to 1200. So, IIRC I questioned these initial figures as I said “If Israel has 200 or so missing & there’s 200 or so burnt bodies in the morgues then logic dictates That Hamas haven’t taken many at all & nothing like the 200+ numbers given”. Remember all the teeth gnashing about “bound & burnt bodies” people being “Set on fire & burnt alive”. & other atrocities. The filmed interview complete with crispy bodies from the chief pathologist at one of the labs. Well how about asking the IDF if this was fact or fiction because virtually all those burnt bodies are Hamas fighters apparently from missile strikes & subsequent fires according to Israel themselves. No one talking about whether the bound & crispy were Israeli or Hamas, if not, why not? Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S" Am surprised your surprised, truth is always the first victim of war. Always the the victors will control the narrative. I mean even so called intellectuals like Douglas Murray are being allowed to whitewash history by saying Nazi's weren't all that bad compared to Hamas. Where of all places in the Jewish Chronicle. We’re told, they were “rarely proud of their average day’s work.” “Very few felt that shooting Jews in the back of the head all day and kicking their bodies into pits was where their own lives had meant to end up,” Murray commiserates -“Many spent their evenings getting blind d*unk to try to forget." I mean if someone had said this sort of thing could have been penned in the Jewish Chronicle before 7th October they would rightly have been referred to a psychiatrist. But these times are making strange bedfellows. Far right and Israelis are now best of buddies. | |||
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"Nope. As William Tecsumeh Sherman said when he "made Georgia howl" and threw every civilian out of Atlanta: " We are not only fighting hostile armies, but a hostile people... we cannot change the hearts of those people, but we can make them so sick of war that generations would pass away before they would again appeal to it"" You seem to be glorifying and justifying this blood thirsty behaviour. But when Genghis Khan or Attila the Hun do the same thing, history portrays them has barbaric savages. | |||
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"Or did you not join the dots? Israel confirms that the initial numbers of Israeli dead from the 7th October attacks has been reduced by approx 200 to 1200. So, IIRC I questioned these initial figures as I said “If Israel has 200 or so missing & there’s 200 or so burnt bodies in the morgues then logic dictates That Hamas haven’t taken many at all & nothing like the 200+ numbers given”. Remember all the teeth gnashing about “bound & burnt bodies” people being “Set on fire & burnt alive”. & other atrocities. The filmed interview complete with crispy bodies from the chief pathologist at one of the labs. Well how about asking the IDF if this was fact or fiction because virtually all those burnt bodies are Hamas fighters apparently from missile strikes & subsequent fires according to Israel themselves. No one talking about whether the bound & crispy were Israeli or Hamas, if not, why not? Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S" Only the 1200 then. Well perfectly ok. I have no idea why Israel got so upset about it. To me those innocents dying in both Israel and Gaza are tragedies regardless of the numbers. I suspect we won't know the full figures for some time yet. Is the figures from Gaza 100% accurate | |||
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"Or did you not join the dots? Israel confirms that the initial numbers of Israeli dead from the 7th October attacks has been reduced by approx 200 to 1200. So, IIRC I questioned these initial figures as I said “If Israel has 200 or so missing & there’s 200 or so burnt bodies in the morgues then logic dictates That Hamas haven’t taken many at all & nothing like the 200+ numbers given”. Remember all the teeth gnashing about “bound & burnt bodies” people being “Set on fire & burnt alive”. & other atrocities. The filmed interview complete with crispy bodies from the chief pathologist at one of the labs. Well how about asking the IDF if this was fact or fiction because virtually all those burnt bodies are Hamas fighters apparently from missile strikes & subsequent fires according to Israel themselves. No one talking about whether the bound & crispy were Israeli or Hamas, if not, why not? Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S" how it it propaganda when you have to identify body parts. That takes time. Human bodies don't react well to bullets and explosives I don't know if you are aware of that. It's a jigsaw puzzle of human remains. So after a month of detailed identification. You want the count to be at 1400 instead of 1200? | |||
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"Or did you not join the dots? Israel confirms that the initial numbers of Israeli dead from the 7th October attacks has been reduced by approx 200 to 1200. So, IIRC I questioned these initial figures as I said “If Israel has 200 or so missing & there’s 200 or so burnt bodies in the morgues then logic dictates That Hamas haven’t taken many at all & nothing like the 200+ numbers given”. Remember all the teeth gnashing about “bound & burnt bodies” people being “Set on fire & burnt alive”. & other atrocities. The filmed interview complete with crispy bodies from the chief pathologist at one of the labs. Well how about asking the IDF if this was fact or fiction because virtually all those burnt bodies are Hamas fighters apparently from missile strikes & subsequent fires according to Israel themselves. No one talking about whether the bound & crispy were Israeli or Hamas, if not, why not? Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S Only the 1200 then. Well perfectly ok. I have no idea why Israel got so upset about it. To me those innocents dying in both Israel and Gaza are tragedies regardless of the numbers. I suspect we won't know the full figures for some time yet. Is the figures from Gaza 100% accurate" Well unlikely I’d say but until it’s “only” 1200 I’d say Israel are winning on the mindless civilian slaughter front wouldn’t you? Don’t forget the 1200 includes 300 or so IDF, I very much doubt the Palestinian figures include Hamas terrorists. S | |||
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"Or did you not join the dots? Israel confirms that the initial numbers of Israeli dead from the 7th October attacks has been reduced by approx 200 to 1200. So, IIRC I questioned these initial figures as I said “If Israel has 200 or so missing & there’s 200 or so burnt bodies in the morgues then logic dictates That Hamas haven’t taken many at all & nothing like the 200+ numbers given”. Remember all the teeth gnashing about “bound & burnt bodies” people being “Set on fire & burnt alive”. & other atrocities. The filmed interview complete with crispy bodies from the chief pathologist at one of the labs. Well how about asking the IDF if this was fact or fiction because virtually all those burnt bodies are Hamas fighters apparently from missile strikes & subsequent fires according to Israel themselves. No one talking about whether the bound & crispy were Israeli or Hamas, if not, why not? Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S Only the 1200 then. Well perfectly ok. I have no idea why Israel got so upset about it. To me those innocents dying in both Israel and Gaza are tragedies regardless of the numbers. I suspect we won't know the full figures for some time yet. Is the figures from Gaza 100% accurate Well unlikely I’d say but until it’s “only” 1200 I’d say Israel are winning on the mindless civilian slaughter front wouldn’t you? Don’t forget the 1200 includes 300 or so IDF, I very much doubt the Palestinian figures include Hamas terrorists. S " So you are taking Hamas ministry of health figures as the gospel of truth? I'll wait until all hostilities stop to get the accurate count. | |||
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"Or did you not join the dots? ... Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”." So, upon joining the dots, what do you propose is the truth? | |||
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"Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S" Propaganda is as damaging as the rockets used so I’ll take claims from either side with a heavy pinch of salt. The Al-Ahli hospital explosion is an example where the death toll and ‘whodunnit’ is still being debated and neither side accept responsibility. In times of war who can you believe? | |||
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"Or did you not join the dots? Israel confirms that the initial numbers of Israeli dead from the 7th October attacks has been reduced by approx 200 to 1200. So, IIRC I questioned these initial figures as I said “If Israel has 200 or so missing & there’s 200 or so burnt bodies in the morgues then logic dictates That Hamas haven’t taken many at all & nothing like the 200+ numbers given”. Remember all the teeth gnashing about “bound & burnt bodies” people being “Set on fire & burnt alive”. & other atrocities. The filmed interview complete with crispy bodies from the chief pathologist at one of the labs. Well how about asking the IDF if this was fact or fiction because virtually all those burnt bodies are Hamas fighters apparently from missile strikes & subsequent fires according to Israel themselves. No one talking about whether the bound & crispy were Israeli or Hamas, if not, why not? Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S how it it propaganda when you have to identify body parts. That takes time. Human bodies don't react well to bullets and explosives I don't know if you are aware of that. It's a jigsaw puzzle of human remains. So after a month of detailed identification. You want the count to be at 1400 instead of 1200?" If your reporting of events & figures always comes across in the first instance as worse than it was in truth then it’s not a mistake it’s propaganda to help fuel the level of the retaliation you’ll get away with. You should & probably do know this. S | |||
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"Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S Propaganda is as damaging as the rockets used so I’ll take claims from either side with a heavy pinch of salt. The Al-Ahli hospital explosion is an example where the death toll and ‘whodunnit’ is still being debated and neither side accept responsibility. In times of war who can you believe? " Neither but when one side is reporting tens of thousands I doubt it’s going to come down to tens of hundreds. S | |||
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"Or did you not join the dots? Israel confirms that the initial numbers of Israeli dead from the 7th October attacks has been reduced by approx 200 to 1200. So, IIRC I questioned these initial figures as I said “If Israel has 200 or so missing & there’s 200 or so burnt bodies in the morgues then logic dictates That Hamas haven’t taken many at all & nothing like the 200+ numbers given”. Remember all the teeth gnashing about “bound & burnt bodies” people being “Set on fire & burnt alive”. & other atrocities. The filmed interview complete with crispy bodies from the chief pathologist at one of the labs. Well how about asking the IDF if this was fact or fiction because virtually all those burnt bodies are Hamas fighters apparently from missile strikes & subsequent fires according to Israel themselves. No one talking about whether the bound & crispy were Israeli or Hamas, if not, why not? Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S Only the 1200 then. Well perfectly ok. I have no idea why Israel got so upset about it. To me those innocents dying in both Israel and Gaza are tragedies regardless of the numbers. I suspect we won't know the full figures for some time yet. Is the figures from Gaza 100% accurate Well unlikely I’d say but until it’s “only” 1200 I’d say Israel are winning on the mindless civilian slaughter front wouldn’t you? Don’t forget the 1200 includes 300 or so IDF, I very much doubt the Palestinian figures include Hamas terrorists. S So you are taking Hamas ministry of health figures as the gospel of truth? I'll wait until all hostilities stop to get the accurate count." No but seeing as others can see with their eyes I’d hazard a guess that even if exaggerated by 100% that’s still currently about 6,000 civilian dead is it not? S | |||
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"Or did you not join the dots? Israel confirms that the initial numbers of Israeli dead from the 7th October attacks has been reduced by approx 200 to 1200. So, IIRC I questioned these initial figures as I said “If Israel has 200 or so missing & there’s 200 or so burnt bodies in the morgues then logic dictates That Hamas haven’t taken many at all & nothing like the 200+ numbers given”. Remember all the teeth gnashing about “bound & burnt bodies” people being “Set on fire & burnt alive”. & other atrocities. The filmed interview complete with crispy bodies from the chief pathologist at one of the labs. Well how about asking the IDF if this was fact or fiction because virtually all those burnt bodies are Hamas fighters apparently from missile strikes & subsequent fires according to Israel themselves. No one talking about whether the bound & crispy were Israeli or Hamas, if not, why not? Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S how it it propaganda when you have to identify body parts. That takes time. Human bodies don't react well to bullets and explosives I don't know if you are aware of that. It's a jigsaw puzzle of human remains. So after a month of detailed identification. You want the count to be at 1400 instead of 1200? If your reporting of events & figures always comes across in the first instance as worse than it was in truth then it’s not a mistake it’s propaganda to help fuel the level of the retaliation you’ll get away with. You should & probably do know this. S" So let me get this straight. Israel finally was able to identify how many were massacred and you are mad because it's 200 short of their original estimate? Would a 1000 be better? The response would have been the same if it was 500 or 50000. Pick a number you are satisfied with. | |||
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"Or did you not join the dots? Israel confirms that the initial numbers of Israeli dead from the 7th October attacks has been reduced by approx 200 to 1200. So, IIRC I questioned these initial figures as I said “If Israel has 200 or so missing & there’s 200 or so burnt bodies in the morgues then logic dictates That Hamas haven’t taken many at all & nothing like the 200+ numbers given”. Remember all the teeth gnashing about “bound & burnt bodies” people being “Set on fire & burnt alive”. & other atrocities. The filmed interview complete with crispy bodies from the chief pathologist at one of the labs. Well how about asking the IDF if this was fact or fiction because virtually all those burnt bodies are Hamas fighters apparently from missile strikes & subsequent fires according to Israel themselves. No one talking about whether the bound & crispy were Israeli or Hamas, if not, why not? Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S Only the 1200 then. Well perfectly ok. I have no idea why Israel got so upset about it. To me those innocents dying in both Israel and Gaza are tragedies regardless of the numbers. I suspect we won't know the full figures for some time yet. Is the figures from Gaza 100% accurate Well unlikely I’d say but until it’s “only” 1200 I’d say Israel are winning on the mindless civilian slaughter front wouldn’t you? Don’t forget the 1200 includes 300 or so IDF, I very much doubt the Palestinian figures include Hamas terrorists. S " We are all different I guess but for me I don't see any winning from any side, especially when talking of deaths. I would also include the soldiers. To me its all tragic but each to their own. | |||
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"Or did you not join the dots? Israel confirms that the initial numbers of Israeli dead from the 7th October attacks has been reduced by approx 200 to 1200. So, IIRC I questioned these initial figures as I said “If Israel has 200 or so missing & there’s 200 or so burnt bodies in the morgues then logic dictates That Hamas haven’t taken many at all & nothing like the 200+ numbers given”. Remember all the teeth gnashing about “bound & burnt bodies” people being “Set on fire & burnt alive”. & other atrocities. The filmed interview complete with crispy bodies from the chief pathologist at one of the labs. Well how about asking the IDF if this was fact or fiction because virtually all those burnt bodies are Hamas fighters apparently from missile strikes & subsequent fires according to Israel themselves. No one talking about whether the bound & crispy were Israeli or Hamas, if not, why not? Yet more bullshit reporting from “Propaganda Is Us”. S You have a lot of anger, I mean a lot! Your opening posts after oct 7th we’re Israel allowed the attack to happen, and they knew it was coming. Now your attacking the Israeli numbers because they have 1200 dead, not 1400…. Jeez….." This does seem quite the stretch to have a go at Israel. Fro. Originally blaming Israeli lack of security in knowing kf the attack to now criticising not knowing the exact dead from the attack. Seems like people are just finding a way to justify their anti semitic and hates of Jews. | |||
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