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"The government couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel or a piss up I a brewery" Then don’t rely on them, their incompetent will bring you down with them | |||
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"How the pandemic was handled tells you everything you need to know" This | |||
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"The government couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel or a piss up I a brewery" And this | |||
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"When I say disaster it could be an invasion,a natural disaster,a man made disaster or another pandemic even more deadly? Breaking it down. Are the government able to or prepared to deal with a national crisis that requires mass mobilization of troops, medical,food and water distribution, energy and transportation services, accommodation and policing. That may be needed. Seeing events around the world natural disasters,wars, famine and so on. I personally think we would fall into complete chaos and anarchy in about two weeks tops. The mob would take over and government capitulate to this rapidly withdrawing to look after themselves. Would you follow instructions or do whatever you want? Would you be willing to help? Would you be willing to sign up and help in a war if needed? Does society revert back to are base instinct of self preservation and survival of the fittest or are we past that? Lot's of questions sorry Hahahaha absolutely not ! The vast majority of people are sheep and are controlled by media opinions and governmental over reach! Basic instinct will always be there and survival of the fittest (or best prepared) will win out " By the way I totally agree with how your saying things would go Total chaos would ensue | |||
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"Our government at present would not know what to do. If we had any form of disaster. Our NHS is run down and can't cope with emergency now. I'm not sure if our other emergency services are up to strength. Personally I think we would be up the creek without a paddle " Again don’t rely on them! | |||
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"How the pandemic was handled tells you everything you need to know" And how people reacted to being told what to do. | |||
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"The government couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel or a piss up I a brewery" They’ve successfully conned 99% of the population by taking our tax money and giving to their mates via back handlers and dodgey companies I think they’ve pulled the wool so far over your eyes, you think your the smart one | |||
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"When I say disaster it could be an invasion,a natural disaster,a man made disaster or another pandemic even more deadly? Breaking it down. Are the government able to or prepared to deal with a national crisis that requires mass mobilization of troops, medical,food and water distribution, energy and transportation services, accommodation and policing. That may be needed. Seeing events around the world natural disasters,wars, famine and so on. I personally think we would fall into complete chaos and anarchy in about two weeks tops. The mob would take over and government capitulate to this rapidly withdrawing to look after themselves. Would you follow instructions or do whatever you want? Would you be willing to help? Would you be willing to sign up and help in a war if needed? Does society revert back to are base instinct of self preservation and survival of the fittest or are we past that? Lot's of questions sorry " Doubt it very much. We are pretty crap compared to most of the civilised world at most important stuff. Roads, transport, health, education,infrastructure, quality of life. That's both in terms of leadership and also general population understanding and willingness to do things for themselves and the benefits of others... We saw that only a few years ago how divided we became when a little pressure was applied. Very sad. | |||
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"The government couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel or a piss up I a brewery" Evidence shows that they can organise a lockdown piss up at work tho | |||
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"Not prepared for even bad weather (snow, rain etc). Watching people stripping toilet roll from shelves during the covid time tells us all we need to know." Totally this. The veneer of our ‘civilised society’ is remarkably thin. If you’re unsure, have a read of what happened in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in the US. | |||
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"All local, regional and national government departments have disaster planning meetings. Six months before the pandemic someone I know attended one, the subject of a pandemic was discussed as usual and everyone laughed and moved on to the next item on the agenda. That's the level of preparedness in this country " The official government review in 2016 concluded that the UK was woefully unprepared for a pandemic and much needed to be done. Well, we know how that went. Bottom line is you cannot be prepared for every eventuality so there is a broad brush approach, which actually means wait and see what we are dealing with. Obviously that means we will be caught out in the early stages and lives will be lost. Oh, well, it’s not like we are short of people is it? Whether we can actually deal with whatever transpires is a whole other issue….. | |||
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"All local, regional and national government departments have disaster planning meetings. Six months before the pandemic someone I know attended one, the subject of a pandemic was discussed as usual and everyone laughed and moved on to the next item on the agenda. That's the level of preparedness in this country The official government review in 2016 concluded that the UK was woefully unprepared for a pandemic and much needed to be done. Well, we know how that went. Bottom line is you cannot be prepared for every eventuality so there is a broad brush approach, which actually means wait and see what we are dealing with. Obviously that means we will be caught out in the early stages and lives will be lost. Oh, well, it’s not like we are short of people is it? Whether we can actually deal with whatever transpires is a whole other issue….." The preparation at local level was literally to have refrigerated lorries in hospital car parks as temporary morgues. I'd say that was beyond underprepared and entering dereliction of duty territory. | |||
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"How the pandemic was handled tells you everything you need to know And how people reacted to being told what to do." You mean go on youtube abd find something that fits their ideals, then tell everyone that doesn't go with what you found a sheep. | |||
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"‘The preparation at local level was literally to have refrigerated lorries in hospital car parks as temporary morgues. I'd say that was beyond underprepared and entering dereliction of duty territory.‘ I agree, but how do you prepare in detail for a disaster you can’t even define! It’s a shit sandwich whichever way you look at it." I really don't know the answer but there have been pandemics before. I think I could have come up with a few more suggestions than where to store the bodies based on the 1918 flu epidemic | |||
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"The government couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel or a piss up I a brewery" But they organised parties for themselves. | |||
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"The government couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel or a piss up I a brewery" This Miss S x | |||
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"No we're probably not ready. It costs money to be ready. The Conservatives don't like spending money. They would much rather rich people had it. " And shipping the money off to other countries before helping our own. Miss S x | |||
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"A civil war is coming and that's when the country will decline even further than it has already. " Do you think we will get ours before the US and Europe gets theirs? | |||
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"People are idiots. The lucky ones are the ones who know this, and go and read up on how not to be. As for readyness... We are a society that will tolerate children going hungry, but provide a sparkly hat with its own car. " I'm terribly afraid that you're right | |||
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"When I say disaster it could be an invasion,a natural disaster,a man made disaster or another pandemic even more deadly? Breaking it down. Are the government able to or prepared to deal with a national crisis that requires mass mobilization of troops, medical,food and water distribution, energy and transportation services, accommodation and policing. That may be needed. Seeing events around the world natural disasters,wars, famine and so on. I personally think we would fall into complete chaos and anarchy in about two weeks tops. The mob would take over and government capitulate to this rapidly withdrawing to look after themselves. Would you follow instructions or do whatever you want? Would you be willing to help? Would you be willing to sign up and help in a war if needed? Does society revert back to are base instinct of self preservation and survival of the fittest or are we past that? Lot's of questions sorry " Sounds like a video game I play called Tom Clancy's The Division, and the Division 2. The story is that some evil man unleashes a virus that causes a world wide pandemic. Causing the global breakdown of society and as you say mob rule, and a sort of ideology gains traction. Now the government had planned for this type of scenario and created a force of trained everyday people who could be mobilised over a separate communication network, called the division who would maintain law and order by shoot first and ask questions later, great game until the pandemic actually became a real thing. So your thinking is not that wrong, in fact it may show why our governments did what they did during our pandemic. I never put it together before it was just a game but now..... you have me thinking. | |||
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"I've learned from my grandma to be prepared and have a sideboard full of tinned fruit and bags of sugar" Since the pandemic that what I have done, I had to work during the pandemic and got to the shops during the first weeks at about 21.00 and the shelves were empty luckily my employer fed us until the shelves where stocked again. | |||
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"Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event " Two months before it took hold in China or the UK? | |||
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"Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event " My post above explains what I was doing 3 years before the pandemic, I looked up this game and wondered why Tom Clancy invented this idea. He witnessed a training event in New York that simulated such an attack that lead to a pandemic, the game was bang on except it wasn't an attack and worried a lot of gamers who though the game was about to come true. But Boris had a party and those thoughts left our minds im afraid. But you are right I did nothing to prepare as it was a game, what would people of thought of me running round saying a video game has seen our demise. I would be in Pankhurst | |||
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"Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event Two months before it took hold in China or the UK?" In China | |||
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"Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event My post above explains what I was doing 3 years before the pandemic, I looked up this game and wondered why Tom Clancy invented this idea. He witnessed a training event in New York that simulated such an attack that lead to a pandemic, the game was bang on except it wasn't an attack and worried a lot of gamers who though the game was about to come true. But Boris had a party and those thoughts left our minds im afraid. But you are right I did nothing to prepare as it was a game, what would people of thought of me running round saying a video game has seen our demise. I would be in Pankhurst " | |||
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"Not prepared for even bad weather (snow, rain etc). Watching people stripping toilet roll from shelves during the covid time tells us all we need to know. Totally this. The veneer of our ‘civilised society’ is remarkably thin. If you’re unsure, have a read of what happened in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in the US." Still get our amazon delivered though... | |||
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"‘The preparation at local level was literally to have refrigerated lorries in hospital car parks as temporary morgues. I'd say that was beyond underprepared and entering dereliction of duty territory.‘ I agree, but how do you prepare in detail for a disaster you can’t even define! It’s a shit sandwich whichever way you look at it." Well of course you can't and nor should we expect it. What we can however be is sufficiently self sufficient, adaptable,educated, informed, with our community's already willing and able to roll into action as needed, to be able to respond quickly to most of the shit life throws our way. The fact we are increasingly selfish as individuals and increasingly inefficient at local council and central leadership and then backing countries that are slaughtering innocents will surely have some consequences. | |||
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"Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event Two months before it took hold in China or the UK? In China " The first thing that should have been done, and it was quite incredible that it wasn't, was stop all flights from China It was lock downs galore in China before Christmas and anyone with any sense knew it was coming. At the start of February, I was stoid at the NEC Spring Fair thinking "this is madness. The entire world is about to change" So if a numpty like me could see it coming, why couldn't the people who are paid the big bucks to look after us? | |||
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"I don't watch the walking dead for nothing. Research. " I honestly have a mental list of things to do, people I know to band together with and places to get supplies and shelter in case of Zompocalypse | |||
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"Tom gave ample warnings to the peoples on the pandemic. He was prepared. " You'll be able to sit on your hill saying told you so to everyone. | |||
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"Planning for the sort of contingencies mentioned in this thread takes considerable time and money. It also takes multi-disciplinary skill and knowledge. And then "buy in" and cooperation from multiple government departments. Many of which hate each other's guts and are all jockeying for importance in their own schemes of things. So yeah...we're fooked. As always. As we always will be. That will never change. " Leadership wise. But there are things that individuals can choose to do. Be cooperative, adaptable, build community and support, check well being of others... None requires any one else to do... Just our own choices. | |||
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" I would be in Pankhurst " Is that a prison for suffragettes? | |||
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"When I say disaster it could be an invasion,a natural disaster,a man made disaster or another pandemic even more deadly? Breaking it down. Are the government able to or prepared to deal with a national crisis that requires mass mobilization of troops, medical,food and water distribution, energy and transportation services, accommodation and policing. That may be needed. Seeing events around the world natural disasters,wars, famine and so on. I personally think we would fall into complete chaos and anarchy in about two weeks tops. The mob would take over and government capitulate to this rapidly withdrawing to look after themselves. Would you follow instructions or do whatever you want? Would you be willing to help? Would you be willing to sign up and help in a war if needed? Does society revert back to are base instinct of self preservation and survival of the fittest or are we past that? Lot's of questions sorry " I think the way the uk dealt with the initial outbreak of Covid shows the Uk government was not prepared The annoying thing for me is that even I was surprised at the amount of goodwill the uk public gave in the circumstances ! Most of us followed rules even at the worst moments … only for the government to basically squander it all… partly through ineptitude, partly through some wanting to profiteer | |||
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"Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event My post above explains what I was doing 3 years before the pandemic, I looked up this game and wondered why Tom Clancy invented this idea. He witnessed a training event in New York that simulated such an attack that lead to a pandemic, the game was bang on except it wasn't an attack and worried a lot of gamers who though the game was about to come true. But Boris had a party and those thoughts left our minds im afraid. But you are right I did nothing to prepare as it was a game, what would people of thought of me running round saying a video game has seen our demise. I would be in Pankhurst " Tom Clancy looked into a lot of things, then wrote about them. | |||
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" I would be in Pankhurst Is that a prison for suffragettes?" Haha no a prison for the mentally insane I believe, right up my street | |||
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"Just a thought but can all the people moaning about how the pandemic was handled explain what they had planned two months before it happened to prevent it I did not see any posts on here two months before with peoples plans on what to do we are all very clever with hindsight and for the record are we ready for the next disaster NOPE and will it be a shit show YEP.... but only when we all sit back and think about how we could of handled it better after the event My post above explains what I was doing 3 years before the pandemic, I looked up this game and wondered why Tom Clancy invented this idea. He witnessed a training event in New York that simulated such an attack that lead to a pandemic, the game was bang on except it wasn't an attack and worried a lot of gamers who though the game was about to come true. But Boris had a party and those thoughts left our minds im afraid. But you are right I did nothing to prepare as it was a game, what would people of thought of me running round saying a video game has seen our demise. I would be in Pankhurst Tom Clancy looked into a lot of things, then wrote about them. " King of the techno thriller | |||
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" I would be in Pankhurst Is that a prison for suffragettes?" I think it's a bit like parkhurst | |||
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" I would be in Pankhurst Is that a prison for suffragettes? I think it's a bit like parkhurst" thank you my bad. | |||
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"The government couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel or a piss up I a brewery" Actually we know too well parties can be organised | |||
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"The Environment Secretary seemed surprised that the recent heavy rain/floods came from a direction she wasn't expecting and has no idea how often spring tides occur. Not the brightest " You'd think a secretary of state would have to have a crash course in the job they're doing. You wouldn't get unqualified people running banks or designing buildings | |||
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"The Environment Secretary seemed surprised that the recent heavy rain/floods came from a direction she wasn't expecting and has no idea how often spring tides occur. Not the brightest You'd think a secretary of state would have to have a crash course in the job they're doing. You wouldn't get unqualified people running banks or designing buildings " Political appointments rarely have any idea about their departments. Hence they flit from one to another at the behest of their PM, depending how popular they are. That is what the Civil Service is for. And also why nothing gets done or done badly. | |||
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"The Environment Secretary seemed surprised that the recent heavy rain/floods came from a direction she wasn't expecting and has no idea how often spring tides occur. Not the brightest You'd think a secretary of state would have to have a crash course in the job they're doing. You wouldn't get unqualified people running banks or designing buildings " What qualifies someone to be secretary of state? Its management isn't it.? Create the culture and environment, recruit experts, set strategy... Execute.. Review... Repeat. | |||
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"The biggest threat to this country is losing energy, if we had no power for even a few days the whole country would collapse. " this read a book called peak oil about the oil supply to the uk being cut off by a series of accidents and incedents .it proecide that the country would be at a complete stand still within a fortnight and under marshal law within the month bringing about rioting and general anarky . | |||
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"The Environment Secretary seemed surprised that the recent heavy rain/floods came from a direction she wasn't expecting and has no idea how often spring tides occur. Not the brightest " You mean the spring tide, that happens every 7 days or so. As in neaps and springs? | |||
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"The Environment Secretary seemed surprised that the recent heavy rain/floods came from a direction she wasn't expecting and has no idea how often spring tides occur. Not the brightest You mean the spring tide, that happens every 7 days or so. As in neaps and springs?" “and the spring tides, which feels a bit strange as it’s autumn” or words to that effect | |||
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"The government couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel or a piss up I a brewery" Hard disagree. The government were all hands on deck for disaster capitalism with the brexit and covid disasters. They will have learned a lot. Next time they will be even more efficient at lining their own and their friends pockets. | |||
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"The government couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel or a piss up I a brewery Hard disagree. The government were all hands on deck for disaster capitalism with the brexit and covid disasters. They will have learned a lot. Next time they will be even more efficient at lining their own and their friends pockets. " I wish I could disagree but I can't | |||
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"Prepared or not, well planned or not, the plan goes out the window when the first shot is fired. If the UK goes up in flames, the world would be in the mire as the immigrants would have nowhere to go and the people smuggler gangs would be out of business. All those syrians, iraqis, afghans that head this way would need to head to one of their new friendly countries like China, Iran or Russia - I don't think so." I assume you're referring to the asylum seekers who cross in boats. Europe take far more than we do so they would just stay there | |||
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"We have sod all military forces, no political will and a population that seems more inclined to fight bullets with woke and pc attitudes. As a nation we're pitiful " I have a AR you can borrow | |||
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"We have sod all military forces, no political will and a population that seems more inclined to fight bullets with woke and pc attitudes. As a nation we're pitiful I have a AR you can borrow " I’ll take it. Does it come with a small ammo fort?.. | |||
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"We have sod all military forces, no political will and a population that seems more inclined to fight bullets with woke and pc attitudes. As a nation we're pitiful I have a AR you can borrow I’ll take it. Does it come with a small ammo fort?.. " lol i would suggest the 5.56. My others are not NATO standard . | |||
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"Prepared or not, well planned or not, the plan goes out the window when the first shot is fired. If the UK goes up in flames, the world would be in the mire as the immigrants would have nowhere to go and the people smuggler gangs would be out of business. All those syrians, iraqis, afghans that head this way would need to head to one of their new friendly countries like China, Iran or Russia - I don't think so. I assume you're referring to the asylum seekers who cross in boats. Europe take far more than we do so they would just stay there " Not quite, by the time we have a problem at our front door europe would be in turmoil. Just look at the sorry state of the EU today, Hungary, Slovakia and the way they hold 25 other countries to ransom. Austrian borders in place, German eastern borders now has checks, slowly but surely europe is becoming less of a union. | |||
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"We have sod all military forces, no political will and a population that seems more inclined to fight bullets with woke and pc attitudes. As a nation we're pitiful I have a AR you can borrow I’ll take it. Does it come with a small ammo fort?.. lol i would suggest the 5.56. My others are not NATO standard ." 5.56 works for me. I can forage for that over here..you can keep your fancy pants wildcats.. | |||
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"We have sod all military forces, no political will and a population that seems more inclined to fight bullets with woke and pc attitudes. As a nation we're pitiful I have a AR you can borrow I’ll take it. Does it come with a small ammo fort?.. lol i would suggest the 5.56. My others are not NATO standard . 5.56 works for me. I can forage for that over here..you can keep your fancy pants wildcats.. " lol | |||
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