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"What will kill us first, climate change or worldwide nuclear warfare" Unfortunately the lot of it can be summed up as stupidity, that’s what’ll get us | |||
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"And it's stuff like this that stops me sleeping." I would be delighted to keep you from sleeping… in a good way! But I fear you didn’t mean this stuff keeps you from sleeping in any good way at all! | |||
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"What will kill us first, climate change or worldwide nuclear warfare" I should think we’ll all find out soon enough! | |||
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"Whatever the news pumps out is always going to be the opposite of what is happening it's literally a media owned by the people creating the wars sending you a false message to agree with their agenda .. Palestine are innocent they've been treated like prisoners and oppressed for years.. Ukraine is a big joke that's just orchestrated by nato (America and uk) to put pressure on Putin .. western civilisation is fucked fact is America are the biggest terrorists and uk are right there next to them .. " Wow! That’s pretty fucked up thinking! Hope you’re never PM! | |||
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"Whatever the news pumps out is always going to be the opposite of what is happening it's literally a media owned by the people creating the wars sending you a false message to agree with their agenda .. Palestine are innocent they've been treated like prisoners and oppressed for years.. Ukraine is a big joke that's just orchestrated by nato (America and uk) to put pressure on Putin .. western civilisation is fucked fact is America are the biggest terrorists and uk are right there next to them .. " Palestinians are held prisoner and oppressed by Hamas.What have Hamas provided for "their people?".How many schools/hospitals/roads or other infrastructure have Hamas built?How many trade deals have they signed?What is their economic policy for their people?Apart from their "destroy everyone who doesn't agree with us,death cult Iranian backed extremism"what is their foreign policy?The only thing Hamas do for their people is to use them as human shields,use schools/hospitals/private houses as arms caches,missile factories,launch sites for missiles,meeting places for military commanders,knowing it is likely Israel will strike at that location,which then provides "proof" that Israel are oppressing them. | |||
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"Is this stuff with Gaza about to send us there? "Probably not tbf but nothing ever definitive  | |||
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"WOW and I'm worrying/wondering what my wife is doing with her boyfriend right now. The first thing we need to do is stop pandering to woke people. Sometimes people just have to stand and say NO! THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND OUR LAWS. No other country would allow these criminals in x" But what's that got to do with the Israel/Palestine conflict? | |||
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"Whatever the news pumps out is always going to be the opposite of what is happening it's literally a media owned by the people creating the wars sending you a false message to agree with their agenda .. Palestine are innocent they've been treated like prisoners and oppressed for years.. Ukraine is a big joke that's just orchestrated by nato (America and uk) to put pressure on Putin .. western civilisation is fucked fact is America are the biggest terrorists and uk are right there next to them .. Wow! That’s pretty fucked up thinking! Hope you’re never PM! " If only you knew | |||
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"WOW and I'm worrying/wondering what my wife is doing with her boyfriend right now. The first thing we need to do is stop pandering to woke people. Sometimes people just have to stand and say NO! THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND OUR LAWS. No other country would allow these criminals in x" And now I’m fascinated to know what your wife is doing with her boyfriend right now!  | |||
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"Whatever the news pumps out is always going to be the opposite of what is happening it's literally a media owned by the people creating the wars sending you a false message to agree with their agenda .. Palestine are innocent they've been treated like prisoners and oppressed for years.. Ukraine is a big joke that's just orchestrated by nato (America and uk) to put pressure on Putin .. western civilisation is fucked fact is America are the biggest terrorists and uk are right there next to them .. Wow! That’s pretty fucked up thinking! Hope you’re never PM! If only you knew " Ah, sorry Rishi! Took me a moment to realise it was you mate! | |||
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"Whatever might happen, is way beyond my control. So I see little point in worrying about it. If the apocalypse is coming…..just tell me where so I can get a front row seat and smile at it as it gets me. " Good attitude I’m going to try to blend a bit of that into mine Except I’ll try to sit where I can see it get everyone else first | |||
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"How many schools/hospitals/roads or other infrastructure have Hamas built?...Apart from their "destroy everyone who doesn't agree with us,death cult Iranian backed extremism"." Actually loads. And this whole Iranian thing.... Iranians supporting Sunnis? Ummmm...yeah but no. | |||
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"What will kill us first, climate change or worldwide nuclear warfare" Covid?  | |||
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"How many schools/hospitals/roads or other infrastructure have Hamas built?...Apart from their "destroy everyone who doesn't agree with us,death cult Iranian backed extremism". Actually loads. And this whole Iranian thing.... Iranians supporting Sunnis? Ummmm...yeah but no. "Counter intuitive, but Iran does back Hamas and provide support. My enemy's enemy is my friend and all that. | |||
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"How many schools/hospitals/roads or other infrastructure have Hamas built?...Apart from their "destroy everyone who doesn't agree with us,death cult Iranian backed extremism". Actually loads. And this whole Iranian thing.... Iranians supporting Sunnis? Ummmm...yeah but no.
Counter intuitive, but Iran does back Hamas and provide support. My enemy's enemy is my friend and all that."Compelling evidence please? I guess you're implying the entire Arab world supports Israel, and only Iran doesn't. You know, my enemy's enemy and all. | |||
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"Before you comment on these subjects thinking you know the truth because you watched the free bbc news that's there to make you believe a false story.. go and do your research on how and why Israel was created from nowhere and how the Palestine's have been treated for the last 70 years " The BBC isn't free  | |||
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"Whatever the news pumps out is always going to be the opposite of what is happening it's literally a media owned by the people creating the wars sending you a false message to agree with their agenda .. Palestine are innocent they've been treated like prisoners and oppressed for years.. Ukraine is a big joke that's just orchestrated by nato (America and uk) to put pressure on Putin .. western civilisation is fucked fact is America are the biggest terrorists and uk are right there next to them .. Palestinians are held prisoner and oppressed by Hamas.What have Hamas provided for "their people?".How many schools/hospitals/roads or other infrastructure have Hamas built?How many trade deals have they signed?What is their economic policy for their people?Apart from their "destroy everyone who doesn't agree with us,death cult Iranian backed extremism"what is their foreign policy?The only thing Hamas do for their people is to use them as human shields,use schools/hospitals/private houses as arms caches,missile factories,launch sites for missiles,meeting places for military commanders,knowing it is likely Israel will strike at that location,which then provides "proof" that Israel are oppressing them." This . | |||
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"Whatever the news pumps out is always going to be the opposite of what is happening it's literally a media owned by the people creating the wars sending you a false message to agree with their agenda .. Palestine are innocent they've been treated like prisoners and oppressed for years.. Ukraine is a big joke that's just orchestrated by nato (America and uk) to put pressure on Putin .. western civilisation is fucked fact is America are the biggest terrorists and uk are right there next to them .. Palestinians are held prisoner and oppressed by Hamas.What have Hamas provided for "their people?".How many schools/hospitals/roads or other infrastructure have Hamas built?How many trade deals have they signed?What is their economic policy for their people?Apart from their "destroy everyone who doesn't agree with us,death cult Iranian backed extremism"what is their foreign policy?The only thing Hamas do for their people is to use them as human shields,use schools/hospitals/private houses as arms caches,missile factories,launch sites for missiles,meeting places for military commanders,knowing it is likely Israel will strike at that location,which then provides "proof" that Israel are oppressing them.This ."The majority won't have a clue mate they just watch the news and think that's enough information..clueless | |||
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"Whatever the news pumps out is always going to be the opposite of what is happening it's literally a media owned by the people creating the wars sending you a false message to agree with their agenda .. Palestine are innocent they've been treated like prisoners and oppressed for years.. Ukraine is a big joke that's just orchestrated by nato (America and uk) to put pressure on Putin .. western civilisation is fucked fact is America are the biggest terrorists and uk are right there next to them .. . Palestinians are held prisoner and oppressed by Hamas.What have Hamas provided for "their people?".How many schools/hospitals/roads or other infrastructure have Hamas built?How many trade deals have they signed?What is their economic policy for their people?Apart from their "destroy everyone who doesn't agree with us,death cult Iranian backed extremism"what is their foreign policy?The only thing Hamas do for their people is to use them as human shields,use schools/hospitals/private houses as arms caches,missile factories,launch sites for missiles,meeting places for military commanders,knowing it is likely Israel will strike at that location,which then provides "proof" that Israel are oppressing them. " . Insane post. Gaza is a prison of Israel, they fenced it in an control everything apart from the tunnels underneath it. Even if Hamas did use Palestinians as a human shield (Islam doesn't work this way, Hamas are not that extreme, they don't behead babies etc..) Israel still have to bomb the schools and hospitals etc.. which is what they have always done! Some uncontrollable kids make a home made rocket? Israel ends up killing many more women and kids. Over 90% of deaths are always Palestinian. It's been the story of Gaza for years. Modern Israel is a nightmare country, built on st*len sand. The predicted it would likely be a shitshow when they made it in 1947, but my God it couldn't have been worse. pt | |||
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"How many schools/hospitals/roads or other infrastructure have Hamas built?...Apart from their "destroy everyone who doesn't agree with us,death cult Iranian backed extremism". Actually loads. And this whole Iranian thing.... Iranians supporting Sunnis? Ummmm...yeah but no.
Counter intuitive, but Iran does back Hamas and provide support. My enemy's enemy is my friend and all that.
Compelling evidence please?
I guess you're implying the entire Arab world supports Israel, and only Iran doesn't. You know, my enemy's enemy and all."Nope, I wasn't implying that at all, as you well know. Though I do think most Arab states have reconciled to Israel's existence (I actually think Iran has too but needs the rhetoric). Iranian support for Hamas is really not news, or a controversial opinion. A quick Google will pull up any number of good articles from reliable sources, but I get the feeling none would be "compelling" enough for you. I'm not MI6 so I'm not able to whip out any personal evidence I'm afraid. | |||
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"Whatever the news pumps out is always going to be the opposite of what is happening it's literally a media owned by the people creating the wars sending you a false message to agree with their agenda .. Palestine are innocent they've been treated like prisoners and oppressed for years.. Ukraine is a big joke that's just orchestrated by nato (America and uk) to put pressure on Putin .. western civilisation is fucked fact is America are the biggest terrorists and uk are right there next to them .. Palestinians are held prisoner and oppressed by Hamas.What have Hamas provided for "their people?".How many schools/hospitals/roads or other infrastructure have Hamas built?How many trade deals have they signed?What is their economic policy for their people?Apart from their "destroy everyone who doesn't agree with us,death cult Iranian backed extremism"what is their foreign policy?The only thing Hamas do for their people is to use them as human shields,use schools/hospitals/private houses as arms caches,missile factories,launch sites for missiles,meeting places for military commanders,knowing it is likely Israel will strike at that location,which then provides "proof" that Israel are oppressing them.This .
The majority won't have a clue mate they just watch the news and think that's enough information..clueless "Yup, for those who watch the BBC, truths they won’t find out is that Monika Lewinski is employed by the Tories in Westminster to give free blowjobs to passing MPs, Mother Theresa was actually Mahatma Ghandi in drag after he faked his own death, and the Pope is an evil dictator who’s collaborating with China to make the whole world Communist! Oh, and Joe Biden’s a Freemason who is single-handedly responsible for all the poverty in the world! Yup, the BBC is covering all of this up! And we have to pay for it! What a dreadful organisation the BBC is! Tut tut tut! Let’s get rid of it and replace it with proper news bulletins from North Korea, Iran and Russia! What a good idea! Why has no-one thought of this before! Duh! What idiots we all are for thinking the BBC is any good! | |||
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"In one word: nearly! In other words, it is the second part of three major theatres of war that will spark a truly global WWIII. Ukraine was obviously the first. Israel is the second. As for the third? China and North Korea will attack Japan and Taiwan in the coming months. THEN we’ll be into WWIII. The West will be under attack in three major conflicts around the world and will be fighting for its survival. Then… God help us all!!! " It’s flipping scary to think this is literally what all the analysts are predicting. Apparently China have already started moving spy drones over the US ships near Taiwan | |||
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"They'll all accept a fair 2 state solution apart from Israel, who is the only country that doesn't 'benefit' from it, because it doesn't want to give land back and it has expansion aims (they have never stopped illegally expanding) that go further. I speak to Zionists all the time who feel Palestinians don't have any real right historical right to really be there. It's how Israel itself still views it. But Palestinians will accept their historical Palestine back. And how does Israel get to keep Syria's Golan heights and parts of Lennon too? If you talk about everyone it has to be fair for everyone. pt " And that’s the whole point! If you give historical Palestine back, Israel is erased off the map! So both sides are equally unwilling to compromise. It’s all or nothing for both of them because for both Palestinians and Israelis it is an existential struggle. There may be a lot of bloodshed on both sides but Palestinians do still exist in spite of Israel having control. However, turn the country over to Palestine and the Israelis will all be wiped out in no time. It will be the end for them and the Israelis know that and fear it. That’s why they cannot give up their country. If they do not control their country they know the Arabs will slaughter them all. It will possibly be the most complete and horrifying holocaust in recorded history! Thus the Israelis have to struggle for their survival! It’s do or die! I’m very lucky not to be either Israeli or Palestinian. It’s a conflict I’d rather not be sucked into as it may go on for centuries and millenia to come! | |||
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"In one word: nearly! In other words, it is the second part of three major theatres of war that will spark a truly global WWIII. Ukraine was obviously the first. Israel is the second. As for the third? China and North Korea will attack Japan and Taiwan in the coming months. THEN we’ll be into WWIII. The West will be under attack in three major conflicts around the world and will be fighting for its survival. Then… God help us all!!! It’s flipping scary to think this is literally what all the analysts are predicting. Apparently China have already started moving spy drones over the US ships near Taiwan" I’m not surprised! It’s the perfect opportunity for China while the West are so distracted with Israel and Ukraine. It’s the obvious thing to do! Why wouldn’t Xi go ahead! It’s a no-brainer, especially with Joe Biden so inept, incompetent and slothful! | |||
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"They'll all accept a fair 2 state solution apart from Israel, who is the only country that doesn't 'benefit' from it, because it doesn't want to give land back and it has expansion aims (they have never stopped illegally expanding) that go further. I speak to Zionists all the time who feel Palestinians don't have any real right historical right to really be there. It's how Israel itself still views it. But Palestinians will accept their historical Palestine back. And how does Israel get to keep Syria's Golan heights and parts of Lennon too? If you talk about everyone it has to be fair for everyone. pt And that’s the whole point! If you give historical Palestine back, Israel is erased off the map! So both sides are equally unwilling to compromise. It’s all or nothing for both of them because for both Palestinians and Israelis it is an existential struggle. There may be a lot of bloodshed on both sides but Palestinians do still exist in spite of Israel having control. However, turn the country over to Palestine and the Israelis will all be wiped out in no time. It will be the end for them and the Israelis know that and fear it. That’s why they cannot give up their country. If they do not control their country they know the Arabs will slaughter them all. It will possibly be the most complete and horrifying holocaust in recorded history! Thus the Israelis have to struggle for their survival! It’s do or die! I’m very lucky not to be either Israeli or Palestinian. It’s a conflict I’d rather not be sucked into as it may go on for centuries and millenia to come! " . Not the whole of Israel at all! You are completely talking through your hat! Do you have any idea how much land Israel has taken over 75 years? This is ALL about decades of intense propaganda and one-sided news! It's a pressure cooker of ethnic censorship and control. Finally the top has just burst. pt | |||
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"They'll all accept a fair 2 state solution apart from Israel, who is the only country that doesn't 'benefit' from it, because it doesn't want to give land back and it has expansion aims (they have never stopped illegally expanding) that go further. I speak to Zionists all the time who feel Palestinians don't have any real right historical right to really be there. It's how Israel itself still views it. But Palestinians will accept their historical Palestine back. And how does Israel get to keep Syria's Golan heights and parts of Lennon too? If you talk about everyone it has to be fair for everyone. pt And that’s the whole point! If you give historical Palestine back, Israel is erased off the map! So both sides are equally unwilling to compromise. It’s all or nothing for both of them because for both Palestinians and Israelis it is an existential struggle. There may be a lot of bloodshed on both sides but Palestinians do still exist in spite of Israel having control. However, turn the country over to Palestine and the Israelis will all be wiped out in no time. It will be the end for them and the Israelis know that and fear it. That’s why they cannot give up their country. If they do not control their country they know the Arabs will slaughter them all. It will possibly be the most complete and horrifying holocaust in recorded history! Thus the Israelis have to struggle for their survival! It’s do or die! I’m very lucky not to be either Israeli or Palestinian. It’s a conflict I’d rather not be sucked into as it may go on for centuries and millenia to come! . Not the whole of Israel at all! You are completely talking through your hat! Do you have any idea how much land Israel has taken over 75 years? This is ALL about decades of intense propaganda and one-sided news! It's a pressure cooker of ethnic censorship and control. Finally the top has just burst. pt " Yes, Israel has taken all of Palestine! Of course! We know this! That’s why Palestinians want Israel and Israelis wiped out altogether. Otherwise the conflict wouldn’t exist! | |||
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"They'll all accept a fair 2 state solution apart from Israel, who is the only country that doesn't 'benefit' from it, because it doesn't want to give land back and it has expansion aims (they have never stopped illegally expanding) that go further. I speak to Zionists all the time who feel Palestinians don't have any real right historical right to really be there. It's how Israel itself still views it. But Palestinians will accept their historical Palestine back. And how does Israel get to keep Syria's Golan heights and parts of Lennon too? If you talk about everyone it has to be fair for everyone. pt And that’s the whole point! If you give historical Palestine back, Israel is erased off the map! So both sides are equally unwilling to compromise. It’s all or nothing for both of them because for both Palestinians and Israelis it is an existential struggle. There may be a lot of bloodshed on both sides but Palestinians do still exist in spite of Israel having control. However, turn the country over to Palestine and the Israelis will all be wiped out in no time. It will be the end for them and the Israelis know that and fear it. That’s why they cannot give up their country. If they do not control their country they know the Arabs will slaughter them all. It will possibly be the most complete and horrifying holocaust in recorded history! Thus the Israelis have to struggle for their survival! It’s do or die! I’m very lucky not to be either Israeli or Palestinian. It’s a conflict I’d rather not be sucked into as it may go on for centuries and millenia to come! " First and foremost the Palestinian are not looking to gain historical Palestine back. They want the Balfour declaration to be respected and those lines to be given back. Hamas are not the Palestinian government they are a terrorist organisation that have taken control of the Gaza Strip. First understand the 2 enclaves of Palestine (West Bank and Gaza Strip) - the government only has control over the West Bank because Israel don’t allow the Palestinian to move freely. Also there is a 3rd part of Palestine (East Jerusalem) that is completely controlled by Israel. With regards to your comment about an even worse holocaust. Well my friend do some research and you will quickly realise that the Zionists have been committing that crime for the past 70 odd years. They have open air prisons and concentration camps. The carpet bombing and killing off civilian and please stop giving the bullcrap excuse of Hamas use the civilians as human Shields. Theirs no hamas in the West Bank yet the same atrocities occur their, who’s using them as human shields, please give me a better excuse | |||
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"Well if ww3 ever happened at least those who started it will face the same consequences.. ho wait...is that a spaceship with all the world leaders taking off. typical" Leaders will always need minions. Therefore WWIII shouldn't occur. | |||
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"Well if ww3 ever happened at least those who started it will face the same consequences.. ho wait...is that a spaceship with all the world leaders taking off. typical Leaders will always need minions. Therefore WWIII shouldn't occur." Trouble is they have minions they call them staff. | |||
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"Well if ww3 ever happened at least those who started it will face the same consequences.. ho wait...is that a spaceship with all the world leaders taking off. typical Leaders will always need minions. Therefore WWIII shouldn't occur. Trouble is they have minions they call them staff." And those staff/advisors need minions. I'm not saying there won't be multiple wars and huge fatalities, I just cannot see the war to end all wars happening. Although there are some twats in power  | |||
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"Well if ww3 ever happened at least those who started it will face the same consequences.. ho wait...is that a spaceship with all the world leaders taking off. typical Leaders will always need minions. Therefore WWIII shouldn't occur. Trouble is they have minions they call them staff. And those staff/advisors need minions. I'm not saying there won't be multiple wars and huge fatalities, I just cannot see the war to end all wars happening. Although there are some twats in power "Just to make myself clear I do not want to become a shadow on a wall or the ground if walls are no longer standing. But I remember Cuban missile crisis hours away from war they said, the whole world afraid, end of days stuff. and since then we all have lived under its shadow. We should be demanding the end of war, or not work for them for things we do not need. | |||
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"And it's stuff like this that stops me sleeping." really? You get that worried about it | |||
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"Whatever the news pumps out is always going to be the opposite of what is happening it's literally a media owned by the people creating the wars sending you a false message to agree with their agenda .. Palestine are innocent they've been treated like prisoners and oppressed for years.. Ukraine is a big joke that's just orchestrated by nato (America and uk) to put pressure on Putin .. western civilisation is fucked fact is America are the biggest terrorists and uk are right there next to them .. Palestinians are held prisoner and oppressed by Hamas.What have Hamas provided for "their people?".How many schools/hospitals/roads or other infrastructure have Hamas built?How many trade deals have they signed?What is their economic policy for their people?Apart from their "destroy everyone who doesn't agree with us,death cult Iranian backed extremism"what is their foreign policy?The only thing Hamas do for their people is to use them as human shields,use schools/hospitals/private houses as arms caches,missile factories,launch sites for missiles,meeting places for military commanders,knowing it is likely Israel will strike at that location,which then provides "proof" that Israel are oppressing them.This .
The majority won't have a clue mate they just watch the news and think that's enough information..clueless
Yup, for those who watch the BBC, truths they won’t find out is that Monika Lewinski is employed by the Tories in Westminster to give free blowjobs to passing MPs, Mother Theresa was actually Mahatma Ghandi in drag after he faked his own death, and the Pope is an evil dictator who’s collaborating with China to make the whole world Communist!
Oh, and Joe Biden’s a Freemason who is single-handedly responsible for all the poverty in the world!
Yup, the BBC is covering all of this up! And we have to pay for it! What a dreadful organisation the BBC is! Tut tut tut! Let’s get rid of it and replace it with proper news bulletins from North Korea, Iran and Russia! What a good idea! Why has no-one thought of this before! Duh! What idiots we all are for thinking the BBC is any good! "its the state broadcaster what makes you think they wont pump out the propaganda of the sitting goverment like any other state broadcaster, oh thats right because at the momment its telling you what you want to hear, israel good palastinians bad | |||
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"Whatever the news pumps out is always going to be the opposite of what is happening it's literally a media owned by the people creating the wars sending you a false message to agree with their agenda .. Palestine are innocent they've been treated like prisoners and oppressed for years.. Ukraine is a big joke that's just orchestrated by nato (America and uk) to put pressure on Putin .. western civilisation is fucked fact is America are the biggest terrorists and uk are right there next to them .. Palestinians are held prisoner and oppressed by Hamas.What have Hamas provided for "their people?".How many schools/hospitals/roads or other infrastructure have Hamas built?How many trade deals have they signed?What is their economic policy for their people?Apart from their "destroy everyone who doesn't agree with us,death cult Iranian backed extremism"what is their foreign policy?The only thing Hamas do for their people is to use them as human shields,use schools/hospitals/private houses as arms caches,missile factories,launch sites for missiles,meeting places for military commanders,knowing it is likely Israel will strike at that location,which then provides "proof" that Israel are oppressing them.This .
The majority won't have a clue mate they just watch the news and think that's enough information..clueless
Yup, for those who watch the BBC, truths they won’t find out is that Monika Lewinski is employed by the Tories in Westminster to give free blowjobs to passing MPs, Mother Theresa was actually Mahatma Ghandi in drag after he faked his own death, and the Pope is an evil dictator who’s collaborating with China to make the whole world Communist!
Oh, and Joe Biden’s a Freemason who is single-handedly responsible for all the poverty in the world!
Yup, the BBC is covering all of this up! And we have to pay for it! What a dreadful organisation the BBC is! Tut tut tut! Let’s get rid of it and replace it with proper news bulletins from North Korea, Iran and Russia! What a good idea! Why has no-one thought of this before! Duh! What idiots we all are for thinking the BBC is any good! its the state broadcaster what makes you think they wont pump out the propaganda of the sitting goverment like any other state broadcaster, oh thats right because at the momment its telling you what you want to hear, israel good palastinians bad"Funny, that's not what I'm hearing  | |||
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"They'll all accept a fair 2 state solution apart from Israel, who is the only country that doesn't 'benefit' from it, because it doesn't want to give land back and it has expansion aims (they have never stopped illegally expanding) that go further. I speak to Zionists all the time who feel Palestinians don't have any real right historical right to really be there. It's how Israel itself still views it. But Palestinians will accept their historical Palestine back. And how does Israel get to keep Syria's Golan heights and parts of Lennon too? If you talk about everyone it has to be fair for everyone. pt And that’s the whole point! If you give historical Palestine back, Israel is erased off the map! So both sides are equally unwilling to compromise. It’s all or nothing for both of them because for both Palestinians and Israelis it is an existential struggle. There may be a lot of bloodshed on both sides but Palestinians do still exist in spite of Israel having control. However, turn the country over to Palestine and the Israelis will all be wiped out in no time. It will be the end for them and the Israelis know that and fear it. That’s why they cannot give up their country. If they do not control their country they know the Arabs will slaughter them all. It will possibly be the most complete and horrifying holocaust in recorded history! Thus the Israelis have to struggle for their survival! It’s do or die! I’m very lucky not to be either Israeli or Palestinian. It’s a conflict I’d rather not be sucked into as it may go on for centuries and millenia to come! . . First and foremost the Palestinian are not looking to gain historical Palestine back. They want the Balfour declaration to be respected and those lines to be given back. Hamas are not the Palestinian government they are a terrorist organisation that have taken control of the Gaza Strip. First understand the 2 enclaves of Palestine (West Bank and Gaza Strip) - the government only has control over the West Bank because Israel don’t allow the Palestinian to move freely. Also there is a 3rd part of Palestine (East Jerusalem) that is completely controlled by Israel. With regards to your comment about an even worse holocaust. Well my friend do some research and you will quickly realise that the Zionists have been committing that crime for the past 70 odd years. They have open air prisons and concentration camps. The carpet bombing and killing off civilian and please stop giving the bullcrap excuse of Hamas use the civilians as human Shields. Theirs no hamas in the West Bank yet the same atrocities occur their, who’s using them as human shields, please give me a better excuse " . You have been conflating two different posters here I'm afraid. Whilst I agree with a lot of what you say though, Hamas were democratically *voted* for in the Gaza strip, and when polled they still have the majority of support. Hamas can be on the extreme side imo (of Islam that is - though by no means the worst) but they are certainly *not* terrorists in my or many people's eyes. What would that make Israel? Hamas are Islamic and democratic and they are not baby r*pers/beheaders. This is *really* important. Hamas are not monsters or realistically terrorists either. On top of that, Gaza has been besieged for years anyway. 'Historical Palestine' is open to definition (and negotiation obviously), but that is the term that's often (perhaps most often) used when discussing the subject. It's basically the Palestinian framework for solutions that never realistically get off the ground because Israel simply demand too much. It's about respect. pt | |||
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" Funny, that's not what I'm hearing ". Finally Palestinian issues are getting more talked about for sure. Just over the past year or so, the table is starting to turn. People are starting to hear the truth. But most of the mainstream media though has STILL been promulgating all kinds of lies simply to make Israel appear better than they are. It's almost in self-defence, as they have been so blindly, irresponsibly and corruptly advocating for Israel - and absolutely hiding their subjugation of the Palestinians - for so long. Palestine knows the score, they've lived with this for generations. pt | |||
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"What will kill us first, climate change or worldwide nuclear warfare" Nuclear war; because climate change will cause mass migration from non-viable areas which will result in those moving, and those defending, using nuclear weapons to attack or protect themselves. | |||
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"Hamas are Islamic and democratic and they are not baby r*pers/beheaders. This is *really* important. Hamas are not monsters or realistically terrorists either." I am struggling to understand. My understanding is that the 2006 election in Gaza was not considered democratic or free from corruption. Who was the opposition to Hamas in that election? Were people free to vote how they wanted or was there intimidation? If it was democratic and free then that means you are saying the majority of Palestinians in Gaza agree with and support Hamas? If so then that makes them complicit in the actions of Hamas. While we are, as far as I know, still awaiting absolute proof on the “babies beheaded” story, there seems little doubt about the murder of many Jewish people two weeks ago, including parading the naked battered dead body of a young woman. That sort of celebration doesn’t sound civilised to me and certainly looks like an act of terror! | |||
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"All boat people who have burnt their passports in France should be put in jail unto they are willing to get on a plane out of the UK. Same regards Palies when you see them shouting to encurrage others to fight. All peoples coming to the UK should be on tempary passports with the UK having the right to deport them if they break our laws. Any one who tears up their UK passport is declearing they are not British and should have all British rights removed. Make it law. Next regards paraids etc make the law the same as in Northern Ireland 11 days notice and have to get permision from a paraids department who can place rules on what they can do." | |||
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"@_ersiantug when you say... Hamas are Islamic and democratic and they are not baby r*pers/beheaders. This is *really* important. Hamas are not monsters or realistically terrorists either. I am struggling to understand. My understanding is that the 2006 election in Gaza was not considered democratic or free from corruption. Who was the opposition to Hamas in that election? Were people free to vote how they wanted or was there intimidation? If it was democratic and free then that means you are saying the majority of Palestinians in Gaza agree with and support Hamas? If so then that makes them complicit in the actions of Hamas. While we are, as far as I know, still awaiting absolute proof on the “babies beheaded” story, there seems little doubt about the murder of many Jewish people two weeks ago, including parading the naked battered dead body of a young woman. That sort of celebration doesn’t sound civilised to me and certainly looks like an act of terror!" To answer the first part. The 2006 elections were held in the Palestinian Territories overall. They were democratic, free and fair, overseen and audited by international observers. The elections resulted in an overall majority for Ham. , mainly because Palestinians have had enough of Fatah's corruption, the ruling party at the time. The rule of Ham. was then marred by its military wing snatching of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit in summer of 2006. Since then, Gaza Strip was put under siege. The events culminated in summer 2007 when Hamas and its military wing took completed control of Gaza by launching a surprise blitz attack against the Palestinian security services in the strip, which were largely in pro-Western Fatah's hands. Exustense of Fatah, as an organised party, was from there onwards purged in the strip. Since then, Hamas ruled as an autocratic party, and no elections were held since 2006. Therefore, personally, I think it's a fallacy to hold Palestinian voters responsible since it's been 18 years (a whole generation) they were allowed to vote last. Hope I was to shed some light on this particular issue? | |||
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"@_ersiantug when you say... Hamas are Islamic and democratic and they are not baby r*pers/beheaders. This is *really* important. Hamas are not monsters or realistically terrorists either. I am struggling to understand. My understanding is that the 2006 election in Gaza was not considered democratic or free from corruption. Who was the opposition to Hamas in that election? Were people free to vote how they wanted or was there intimidation? If it was democratic and free then that means you are saying the majority of Palestinians in Gaza agree with and support Hamas? If so then that makes them complicit in the actions of Hamas. While we are, as far as I know, still awaiting absolute proof on the “babies beheaded” story, there seems little doubt about the murder of many Jewish people two weeks ago, including parading the naked battered dead body of a young woman. That sort of celebration doesn’t sound civilised to me and certainly looks like an act of terror! To answer the first part. The 2006 elections were held in the Palestinian Territories overall. They were democratic, free and fair, overseen and audited by international observers. The elections resulted in an overall majority for Ham. , mainly because Palestinians have had enough of Fatah's corruption, the ruling party at the time. The rule of Ham. was then marred by its military wing snatching of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit in summer of 2006. Since then, Gaza Strip was put under siege. The events culminated in summer 2007 when Hamas and its military wing took completed control of Gaza by launching a surprise blitz attack against the Palestinian security services in the strip, which were largely in pro-Western Fatah's hands. Exustense of Fatah, as an organised party, was from there onwards purged in the strip. Since then, Hamas ruled as an autocratic party, and no elections were held since 2006. Therefore, personally, I think it's a fallacy to hold Palestinian voters responsible since it's been 18 years (a whole generation) they were allowed to vote last. Hope I was to shed some light on this particular issue?" Thank you | |||
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"Jumping into this pretty late, but why is it that if Ham is governing and behaving in a way that most people in the world view would not agree with does Palestine not root them out themselves? Why allow one group to set the tone for how much the world sees you as a whole? In the US, we have a few cities that people now avoid like the plague, but the impression of those cities as a whole is inspired by a very small population, however the entire areas are not visited because those cities do nothing to reverse the course set in motion by those few. Despite the history and all, it’s hard to imagine that a country full of wonderful people would want or allow themselves to be considered as something different." | |||
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"Jumping into this pretty late, but why is it that if Ham is governing and behaving in a way that most people in the world view would not agree with does Palestine not root them out themselves? Why allow one group to set the tone for how much the world sees you as a whole? In the US, we have a few cities that people now avoid like the plague, but the impression of those cities as a whole is inspired by a very small population, however the entire areas are not visited because those cities do nothing to reverse the course set in motion by those few. Despite the history and all, it’s hard to imagine that a country full of wonderful people would want or allow themselves to be considered as something different." Heavily armed and military trained terrorists that are proven sadistic bastards vs unarmed mum & dad with kids they wish to protect. Hmmm wonder how that would go? | |||
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"The world would help, but unless invited to do so it would be considered an occupation. The point is, it appears “mum & dad” are totally fine with housing, harboring, being taxed and oppressed by that heavily armed terrorist group, otherwise they wouldn’t turn a blind eye." I think the topic of occupation has long since gone | |||
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"The world would help, but unless invited to do so it would be considered an occupation. The point is, it appears “mum & dad” are totally fine with housing, harboring, being taxed and oppressed by that heavily armed terrorist group, otherwise they wouldn’t turn a blind eye." I would argue that is easy for you or I to say from the comfort of our UK lives. We have never walked in the shoes of these people and have no idea how intimidated they are on a day-to-day basis. If an armed militia had control over the area I live and I had no way of getting out, my first priority would be to protect my family. If that meant keeping quiet about my true feelings towards that armed militia then so be it. The life of my wife & kids comes first. | |||
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"Quoting myself from an earlier thread... I think we should look more at this “all the Palestinians are complicit in the actions of Hamas because they knew they were living amongst them”. Love this. As an analogy lets look at Northern Ireland in the 1970/80s. Were ALL the Catholic Northern Irish complicit with the IRA? Were all the Protestant Northern Irish complicit with the UDF? These terrorist organisations are one step up from organised crime. Much of their funding comes from the same activity that organised crime groups operate inc kid-napping, extortion, protection rackets, drug smuggling/dealing, etc etc. If you were a Catholic and knew of people in the IRA would you speak up? Would you grass on them? Or would you keep your mouth shut to protect the lives of your children and family? If the IRA came to you and told you they wanted to hide one of theirs in your house for a bit, or store some equipment. Would you say no? If the IRA had scored a victory would you support it and celebrate it while they were watching and if you didn’t really support it, keep quiet about it? Would you be wary of your neighbours in case they were full on supporters or even involved with the IRA? Now transpose that to Gaza and hand on heart tell me how you would act? Without doubt there are “normal” Palestinians who support Hamas (we have seen footage of celebrations) but there will also be those who don’t but are too scared to speak out. I don’t blame them. I would be too!" Love this. We always seem to forget that people are essentially the same wherever. Their first priority is family safe, earn enough to feed them and keep your head down if raising it means endangering the lives and livelihood of your loved ones. Not everyone is a hero. | |||
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"I hear you, and no, I wouldn't suggest an individual living in a family home take on the bad individual themselves, but why hasn't the leadership in that country made an effort to oust them unless they are in fact complicit? Afghanistan is another example of this and even there, how one family views the situation is quite different from another based on where they live, how affected they are by it, etc. A family who has no young girls being kept from going to school for instance will not have the same view as one that does on the matter of girls not being allowed to be educated, independent and successful. This is where government and leadership comes in and speaks and acts on behalf of all the people. I feel the world would be much more supportive of Palestine right now if they heard the leadership denounce the actions of Ham. " the goverment in gaza is hammas | |||
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"Yeah, that’s understood, but if the majority of the country doesn’t support a terrorist regime as their government (knowing they didn’t elect them), then why has there been no revolution in all of these years? Why not seek change?" so your from the states yea, gov takes everyones guns away from them so your all unarmed, then the republicans or democrats start acting like a bunch of bellends doing stuff like attacking neighbouring countrys you dont like em doing it so how you gona stop them? Remember your goverment is armed to the teeth but the population is unarmed, you going to still try to overthrow them? | |||
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"Yeah, that’s understood, but if the majority of the country doesn’t support a terrorist regime as their government (knowing they didn’t elect them), then why has there been no revolution in all of these years? Why not seek change?so your from the states yea, gov takes everyones guns away from them so your all unarmed, then the republicans or democrats start acting like a bunch of bellends doing stuff like attacking neighbouring countrys you dont like em doing it so how you gona stop them? Remember your goverment is armed to the teeth but the population is unarmed, you going to still try to overthrow them? " I was going to go into a 2A rant. But it will just fall on deaf ears. I must of typed 2 novels then decided to delete. I will just be my gun owning heathen self. | |||
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"Yeah, that’s understood, but if the majority of the country doesn’t support a terrorist regime as their government (knowing they didn’t elect them), then why has there been no revolution in all of these years? Why not seek change?so your from the states yea, gov takes everyones guns away from them so your all unarmed, then the republicans or democrats start acting like a bunch of bellends doing stuff like attacking neighbouring countrys you dont like em doing it so how you gona stop them? Remember your goverment is armed to the teeth but the population is unarmed, you going to still try to overthrow them? I was going to go into a 2A rant. But it will just fall on deaf ears. I must of typed 2 novels then decided to delete. I will just be my gun owning heathen self." The poster above you did all the work needed for the justification of the 2 amendment | |||
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"Yeah, that’s understood, but if the majority of the country doesn’t support a terrorist regime as their government (knowing they didn’t elect them), then why has there been no revolution in all of these years? Why not seek change?so your from the states yea, gov takes everyones guns away from them so your all unarmed, then the republicans or democrats start acting like a bunch of bellends doing stuff like attacking neighbouring countrys you dont like em doing it so how you gona stop them? Remember your goverment is armed to the teeth but the population is unarmed, you going to still try to overthrow them? I was going to go into a 2A rant. But it will just fall on deaf ears. I must of typed 2 novels then decided to delete. I will just be my gun owning heathen self." wasnt replying to you blu so rant all u like about your guns, i was answering the poster who was wondering why the people of gaza dont try and get rid of there goverment | |||
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"Yeah, that’s understood, but if the majority of the country doesn’t support a terrorist regime as their government (knowing they didn’t elect them), then why has there been no revolution in all of these years? Why not seek change?" Will quote myself from this thread several posts further up... “Heavily armed and military trained terrorists that are proven sadistic bastards vs unarmed mum & dad with kids they wish to protect. Hmmm wonder how that would go?” Even in the USA with the 2ndA an uprising would fail if the military stayed loyal to the Govt. | |||
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"Yeah, that’s understood, but if the majority of the country doesn’t support a terrorist regime as their government (knowing they didn’t elect them), then why has there been no revolution in all of these years? Why not seek change? Will quote myself from this thread several posts further up... “Heavily armed and military trained terrorists that are proven sadistic bastards vs unarmed mum & dad with kids they wish to protect. Hmmm wonder how that would go?” Even in the USA with the 2ndA an uprising would fail if the military stayed loyal to the Govt." And here is the reality, Hamas fighters are someone’s brother, father, son, daughter, sister or mum. The Hamas fighters sending messages home to their parents bragging how many Jews they had killed with their bare hands, shows complicity. Not all will be complicit and I’ve seen Palestinian woman grieving, calling Hamas fighters bitches for bringing death to their family. Change can happen with or without guns, the appetite needs to be there, as I heard today old locks do not open new doors…. | |||
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"Yeah, that’s understood, but if the majority of the country doesn’t support a terrorist regime as their government (knowing they didn’t elect them), then why has there been no revolution in all of these years? Why not seek change?so your from the states yea, gov takes everyones guns away from them so your all unarmed, then the republicans or democrats start acting like a bunch of bellends doing stuff like attacking neighbouring countrys you dont like em doing it so how you gona stop them? Remember your goverment is armed to the teeth but the population is unarmed, you going to still try to overthrow them? I was going to go into a 2A rant. But it will just fall on deaf ears. I must of typed 2 novels then decided to delete. I will just be my gun owning heathen self.wasnt replying to you blu so rant all u like about your guns, i was answering the poster who was wondering why the people of gaza dont try and get rid of there goverment" why should I you did it for me . Hence why I didn't type a novel. | |||
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"Is this stuff with Gaza about to send us there? "No, it won't, not even close. | |||
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