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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Reports that England spends over 40% more per migrant than any other European Country yet we are also told that some are living in squalor. What is the truth here guys and what is going on. It's all over the news

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

Is it fair to compare us to members of the European Union?

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Probably more per head due to brexit, strikes, wages, food, and politicians saying so.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

The UK government intentionally prevents migrants from being processed and becoming legal citizens, so they are unable to work to support themselves. This means they have to be entirely supported by the state.

Our government does this to help create negative sentiments towards migrants, as they believe it benefits them politically. Other countries do not do this, so it follows these countries need to spend less on migrants.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Reports that England spends over 40% more per migrant than any other European Country yet we are also told that some are living in squalor. What is the truth here guys and what is going on. It's all over the news"

Tried Googling this and can't find the information. Do you have a source link Tom..?

Did see a article that costs have risen because Hotel prices have risen. So maybe its because we are putting more people in Hotels. But its all conjecture on my part. So please post a link..

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By *inda May SimmonsTV/TS
over a year ago

hexham


"The UK government intentionally prevents migrants from being processed and becoming legal citizens, so they are unable to work to support themselves. This means they have to be entirely supported by the state.

Our government does this to help create negative sentiments towards migrants, as they believe it benefits them politically. Other countries do not do this, so it follows these countries need to spend less on migrants."

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex

Am I right in thinking that this money comes from our overseas aid budget?

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby

The numbers are on the academic paper below

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-fiscal-impact-of-immigration-in-the-uk/

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Epic mismanagement for 13 years. It's fairly simple. If you don't resource state services appropriately and fill the cabinet with those who are inept and unable to work properly,then you've the basics for catastrophic messes. When you have friends of them, including donors, given £hundreda of millions in levelling up,etc contracts, whilst simultaneously leaders vye to demonstrate how callous they are, etc then public money will not trickle upwards but will be a torrent. The poor are deemed to be unworthy, except for wealth extraction. Refugees and migrants are just part of the plan to retain power at any cost, including the human cost.

Still, the Manchester luxury hotels will be doing very nicely this weekend and coming days, as it's conference.

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By *ndy58Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"The numbers are on the academic paper below

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-fiscal-impact-of-immigration-in-the-uk/"

I don't see anything in that paper that supports the OP's conclusion, either I'm missimg it (in whch case you can highlight which figures are relevant) or the OP has used different data.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The numbers are on the academic paper below

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-fiscal-impact-of-immigration-in-the-uk/

I don't see anything in that paper that supports the OP's conclusion, either I'm missimg it (in whch case you can highlight which figures are relevant) or the OP has used different data."

It's in the Guatdian

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

Is not comparable as other European countries, they receive far more emigrants than UK , far far far more . The numbers are not even close comparable

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By *sh paulCouple
over a year ago

DALKEITH

Probably read it in The Mail, The Sun or Gb news

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By *im RoyleCouple
over a year ago

chester


"Probably read it in The Mail, The Sun or Gb news"

Yep! Gullible racist

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By *randMrsLPCouple
over a year ago

london


"Reports that England spends over 40% more per migrant than any other European Country yet we are also told that some are living in squalor. What is the truth here guys and what is going on. It's all over the news"

I'll take your word for it

Reports on the radio a couple of days ago - the uk spends billions more on roads/bridges and tunnles than when compared with some EU countries, mile for mile - I think france genrally builds a mile of rail track at at least 40% less than the uk. Therefore, small fish what you have posted in the schem of things

What needs to happen to save money is, sTOP the tax cheats/tricks/perks and we'd save billions

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

Absolutely mind blown at some comments here

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By *im RoyleCouple
over a year ago

chester


"Absolutely mind blown at some comments here "

Try Twitter! The racist, bigoted, right wing bell ends are in greater number than any normal person imagined.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Absolutely mind blown at some comments here

Try Twitter! The racist, bigoted, right wing bell ends are in greater number than any normal person imagined. "

I was talking about the Sun, GBN, DM and racist comments

The OP said its in The Guardian and there has been zero racist comments (unless you can point them out).

Typical of left leaning voters doing more harm than good.

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By *im RoyleCouple
over a year ago

chester


"Absolutely mind blown at some comments here

Try Twitter! The racist, bigoted, right wing bell ends are in greater number than any normal person imagined.

I was talking about the Sun, GBN, DM and racist comments

The OP said its in The Guardian and there has been zero racist comments (unless you can point them out).

Typical of left leaning voters doing more harm than good. "

What????

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By *im RoyleCouple
over a year ago

chester

Reports that GB news isn’t news and desperate to save its arse but knowing they are shite!

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Am I right in thinking that this money comes from our overseas aid budget?"

I'm sure I have heard similar though not sure if they mean all the money comes from that budget or a proportion

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Probably read it in The Mail, The Sun or Gb news"

According to Tom it was the guardian

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Probably read it in The Mail, The Sun or Gb news

Yep! Gullible racist "

Who is the gullible racist?

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By *im RoyleCouple
over a year ago

chester

As uk mismanaged everything!!!

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"Am I right in thinking that this money comes from our overseas aid budget?"

Yes. Money which used to go to other countries is now funnelled within the country to pay for hotels and other services. My theory is that the government and some vested interests love this idea and hence they wouldn't want to fix this.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Am I right in thinking that this money comes from our overseas aid budget?

Yes. Money which used to go to other countries is now funnelled within the country to pay for hotels and other services. My theory is that the government and some vested interests love this idea and hence they wouldn't want to fix this."

Of course they don't want to "fix" this.

Whenever there's a government scandal, sleaze, incompetence etc. Wait! Look at those immigrants in that boat over there.

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By *randMrsLPCouple
over a year ago

london


"Reports that England spends over 40% more per migrant than any other European Country yet we are also told that some are living in squalor. What is the truth here guys and what is going on. It's all over the news"

"Any other country" in the EU?? What sources as you stated "all over the media"?

How was the spend calculated?

Does that include the Ukrainians that are being attacked by Putin??

Many questions but no answers I guess.

As I said earlier, we spend 20% more per mile of motorway when compared to France

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

I’m not sure what comparisons are being made…

There are negotiations going on in the latest round of EU discussions on member states, the number of people they must take and the fine per head for an EU member state which falls under that total umber allocated, which is £17k per person.

When I read that, I thought it would be easier and cheaper to deny all entry than accommodate.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Well it is brexit after all. £330m extra per yr in food imports since leaving. So no doubt it costs us more

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/oct/01/uk-admits-extra-330m-a-year-charges-post-brexit-food-imports

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Well it is brexit after all. £330m extra per yr in food imports since leaving. So no doubt it costs us more

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/oct/01/uk-admits-extra-330m-a-year-charges-post-brexit-food-imports

"

awful reporting, that lands perfectly for those that want another headline of why Brexit is so bad.

I’m not going to do homework for anyone who wants more detail, you need to do some ground work.

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By *im RoyleCouple
over a year ago

chester


"Well it is brexit after all. £330m extra per yr in food imports since leaving. So no doubt it costs us more

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/oct/01/uk-admits-extra-330m-a-year-charges-post-brexit-food-imports

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Terrible decision. Based on racism, bigots, lied. Proven failed. Not discussed as labour can’t complain!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well it is brexit after all. £330m extra per yr in food imports since leaving. So no doubt it costs us more

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/oct/01/uk-admits-extra-330m-a-year-charges-post-brexit-food-imports

awful reporting, that lands perfectly for those that want another headline of why Brexit is so bad.

I’m not going to do homework for anyone who wants more detail, you need to do some ground work. "

Is it or is it not true that we won’t have full Brexit border controls in place until October 2024?

And the reasons for this lengthy delay?

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By *im RoyleCouple
over a year ago

chester


"Well it is brexit after all. £330m extra per yr in food imports since leaving. So no doubt it costs us more

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/oct/01/uk-admits-extra-330m-a-year-charges-post-brexit-food-imports

awful reporting, that lands perfectly for those that want another headline of why Brexit is so bad.

I’m not going to do homework for anyone who wants more detail, you need to do some ground work.

Is it or is it not true that we won’t have full Brexit border controls in place until October 2024?

And the reasons for this lengthy delay? "

Food stuffs and animals will require even more paperwork. It’s a Feckin disaster. Johnson didn’t even know what the agreement was! Liar, cheat, con man, fool. Persuaded the gullible to make ourselves poorer

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach


"Is it or is it not true that we won’t have full Brexit border controls in place until October 2024?

And the reasons for this lengthy delay? "

Is it because it will cost the UK tax payer money, and yet deliver no benefit whatsoever?

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By *anifestoMan
over a year ago

F

This maybe the source for OP?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/29/uk-outspends-rest-of-europe-on-housing-asylum-seekers-by-at-least-40-a-person

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Is it or is it not true that we won’t have full Brexit border controls in place until October 2024?

And the reasons for this lengthy delay?

Is it because it will cost the UK tax payer money, and yet deliver no benefit whatsoever?"

Brexit in a nutshell right there.

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By *anifestoMan
over a year ago

F

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By *anifestoMan
over a year ago

F

Yes, that's right about a third of overseas aid budget is spent supporting asylum seekers in the UK, the bulk of which is paid to the accommodation providors

However, the Govt is bringing in legislation to stop this

The Newsagents did a podcast on this recently. Shall post link when I find it


"Am I right in thinking that this money comes from our overseas aid budget?"

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By *im RoyleCouple
over a year ago

chester


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Yes, that's right about a third of overseas aid budget is spent supporting asylum seekers in the UK, the bulk of which is paid to the accommodation providors

However, the Govt is bringing in legislation to stop this

The Newsagents did a podcast on this recently. Shall post link when I find it

Am I right in thinking that this money comes from our overseas aid budget?"

Our aid budget is a very small percent of gdp. The gdp is now lower due to Brexit. We fucked our selves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Yes, that's right about a third of overseas aid budget is spent supporting asylum seekers in the UK, the bulk of which is paid to the accommodation providors

However, the Govt is bringing in legislation to stop this

The Newsagents did a podcast on this recently. Shall post link when I find it

Am I right in thinking that this money comes from our overseas aid budget?"

it's semantics, but irr hmgbhavent looked at this in-uk spending and said, that's not right, let's stop it.

Instead they wanted to bring in legislation about illegal entry if something, which would have meant they could no longer class hotel spend as foreign aid.

Eg it's an indirect consequence of another law rather than a direct consequence of a law addressing this point.

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By *orleymanMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"Reports that England spends over 40% more per migrant than any other European Country yet we are also told that some are living in squalor. What is the truth here guys and what is going on. It's all over the news"

We have greater protections and laws. Not surprising.

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