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By *mateur100 OP   Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

Well I'm astounded by the silence of the left on this issue. I mean I'm sure it's nothing to do with the labour run council but it would be interesting to at least hear from them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well I'm astounded by the silence of the left on this issue. I mean I'm sure it's nothing to do with the labour run council but it would be interesting to at least hear from them"

Are we going to discuss other bankrupt councils as well, then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well I'm astounded by the silence of the left on this issue. I mean I'm sure it's nothing to do with the labour run council but it would be interesting to at least hear from them"

In trying to get my heads around the facts here.

The bulk comes from a equal pay case from 2010. Labour lost control on 2004 and refined in 2012.

But I'm not sure if the claim relates to pay pre 2004 or not.

What is your understanding, OP?

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By *mateur100 OP   Man
over a year ago

nr faversham


"Well I'm astounded by the silence of the left on this issue. I mean I'm sure it's nothing to do with the labour run council but it would be interesting to at least hear from them

Are we going to discuss other bankrupt councils as well, then? "

They're not bankrupt as such, more effectively bankrupt and yes, why not discuss others, if you know of any currently

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Well I'm astounded by the silence of the left on this issue. I mean I'm sure it's nothing to do with the labour run council but it would be interesting to at least hear from them"

Why specifically do you want to hear from "the left"?

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley

I glanced at the telly and the number 14 was posted with the bankruptcy statement, the bankruptcy and insolvency law was changed 2020 and section 14 forbids suppliers from ceasing services and goods to corporations going into bankruptcy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well I'm astounded by the silence of the left on this issue. I mean I'm sure it's nothing to do with the labour run council but it would be interesting to at least hear from them

Are we going to discuss other bankrupt councils as well, then?

They're not bankrupt as such, more effectively bankrupt and yes, why not discuss others, if you know of any currently "

Thurrock. Tory run.

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By *livepalmWoman
over a year ago

Town

I’m sure there will be many more in the next 12 months. Shropshire council is rumoured to have similar issues

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By *orleymanMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"Well I'm astounded by the silence of the left on this issue. I mean I'm sure it's nothing to do with the labour run council but it would be interesting to at least hear from them"

Precisely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The real issue is what the money we all pay in tax is funding. Though asking questions like that is too on the mark and as such people need to stick to arguing over which sockpuppet is to be blamed for the mess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well I'm astounded by the silence of the left on this issue. I mean I'm sure it's nothing to do with the labour run council but it would be interesting to at least hear from them

Precisely."

As I've not had a reply from OP and you tend to do research...

Im trying to get my heads around the facts here.

The bulk comes from a equal pay case from 2010.

Labour lost control in 2004 and regained in 2012.

But I'm not sure if the claim relates to pay pre 2004 or not.

What is your understanding

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Well I'm astounded by the silence of the left on this issue. I mean I'm sure it's nothing to do with the labour run council but it would be interesting to at least hear from them

Precisely.

As I've not had a reply from OP and you tend to do research...

Im trying to get my heads around the facts here.

The bulk comes from a equal pay case from 2010.

Labour lost control in 2004 and regained in 2012.

But I'm not sure if the claim relates to pay pre 2004 or not.

What is your understanding"

From what I understand on the BBC the equal pay dispute forms a lot of the problem but they are saying its since then and dragging out payments that has caused a lot of pain. Coupled with an IT system that could end up costing 100 million pounds has not helped

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Hosting the Commonwealth games has not helped.

Alot of unnecessary projects and wasted money to host the games

Birmingham has always been run badly and it will just get much worse now.

Alot of the highest paid will need to get sacked for allowing this to happen

Going to be alot of cuts to essential services and the effects of this will last for many years and will lead to more deaths.

Birmingham is a shit hole.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Never got to the bottom of why the OP wanted specifically to hear from left wingers on this topic.

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By *livepalmWoman
50 weeks ago

Town

It’s on the news now that Nottingham are close to bankruptcy

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By *ired_upMan
50 weeks ago

ashton


"Hosting the Commonwealth games has not helped.

Alot of unnecessary projects and wasted money to host the games

Birmingham has always been run badly and it will just get much worse now.

Alot of the highest paid will need to get sacked for allowing this to happen

Going to be alot of cuts to essential services and the effects of this will last for many years and will lead to more deaths.

Birmingham is a shit hole. "

I didn't know we had the Home Secretary on here.

Generally these councils that are struggling will be labour run as areas of higher need generally vote labour.

That is changing and there are exceptions but that is generally the case.

Now why that is, is a different matter.

The areas of highest need have been hit harder by austerity and an explosion of need in adult and children's social care. This coincidentally has taken place under conservative government.

Go to your local council website, have a look at where the money is spent. I am happy to bet (apart from maybe Kent)most is spent on services for the most vulnerable adults and children.

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By *wisted999Man
50 weeks ago

North Bucks

I see councils going pop all over the place. Northants down the road went under and they are Tory I believe.

Only difference is one will waste money on projects like de-colonising their flowerbeds and hurty feelings story time and the other will just give the money away on huge vanity projects or just straight to their friends.

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By *asupforfunMan
50 weeks ago

Oldbury

research suggested the Birmingham Commonwealth Games generated a net profit of £100m – a “narrow economic margin” considering it cost £778m, still a profit also the jobs that it generated the tourists that came to Birmingham.

Just saying

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By *ercuryMan
50 weeks ago

Grantham


"It’s on the news now that Nottingham are close to bankruptcy "

Nottingham City Council issued a Section 114 notice on November 29th!

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By *enSiskoMan
50 weeks ago

Cestus 3

I have a family member who worked for Birmingham council all their life, and she received back pay from the day she started the job as it was unfair the men in the same job got more money.

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By *ild_oatsMan
50 weeks ago

the land of saints & sinners

Since 1988 12 Local authorities have issued section 114 notices.

Northamptonshire Council twice in 2018

Croydon Council in 2020 and 2022

Nottinghamshire Council in 2021 and 2023

Birmingham is not new to this list and I’m sure there are plenty more LA’s close to issuing a section 114 notice.

Local authorities in the United Kingdom cannot go bankrupt but by issuing a section 114 notice it is often described in the media as a council effectively declaring bankruptcy.

Most councils under a section 114 notice will then pass a new budget to introduce cuts and reduce spending.

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By *melie LALWoman
50 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Never got to the bottom of why the OP wanted specifically to hear from left Swingers on this topic."

FTFY

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
50 weeks ago

golden fields


"Never got to the bottom of why the OP wanted specifically to hear from left Swingers on this topic.

FTFY

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By *mateur100 OP   Man
49 weeks ago

nr faversham


"Never got to the bottom of why the OP wanted specifically to hear from left Swingers on this topic.

FTFY

"

Because it's a labour council

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
49 weeks ago

golden fields


"Never got to the bottom of why the OP wanted specifically to hear from left Swingers on this topic.

FTFY

Because it's a labour council "

Labour are a centre/centre left party.

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