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"A labour run council, that’s not a good sign for the future economy." 
I see your Birmingham City Council and raise you tory Northamptonshore. | |||
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"Those ruddy women wanting a fair wage. Look what they've done now... I can't see this thread going down well" That's the plan as always. | |||
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"Noddy Holder is from Walsall? Another report says they Wish it could be Christmas everyday "Shit, that was Roy Wood! Though he WAS from Birmingham | |||
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"Those ruddy women wanting a fair wage. Look what they've done now... I can't see this thread going down well That's the plan as always." At least he's subtle about it, eh?  | |||
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"Reports that Birmingham City Council, home to Noddy Holder and his band called Slade, are effectively bankrupt after losses incurred over equal pay cases. Is equal pay a good think or can it have downsides. What's going on here guys, it's all over the news ..." Birmingham has loads more famous people who were born there Ozzy Ozborne Richard Hammond Cat Deeley Carl Lewis  | |||
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"Reports that Birmingham City Council, home to Noddy Holder and his band called Slade, are effectively bankrupt after losses incurred over equal pay cases. Is equal pay a good think or can it have downsides. What's going on here guys, it's all over the news ... Birmingham has loads more famous people who were born there Ozzy Ozborne Richard Hammond Cat Deeley Carl Lewis "Carl Lewis the sprinter? Born in Birmingham USA? | |||
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"Reports that Birmingham City Council, home to Noddy Holder and his band called Slade, are effectively bankrupt after losses incurred over equal pay cases. Is equal pay a good think or can it have downsides. What's going on here guys, it's all over the news ... Birmingham has loads more famous people who were born there Ozzy Ozborne Richard Hammond Cat Deeley Carl Lewis "Adding Jasper Carrott | |||
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"Reports that Birmingham City Council, home to Noddy Holder and his band called Slade, are effectively bankrupt after losses incurred over equal pay cases. Is equal pay a good think or can it have downsides. What's going on here guys, it's all over the news ... Birmingham has loads more famous people who were born there Ozzy Ozborne Richard Hammond Cat Deeley Carl Lewis
Carl Lewis the sprinter? Born in Birmingham USA?"Ohhh yeah | |||
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"Reports that Birmingham City Council, home to Noddy Holder and his band called Slade, are effectively bankrupt after losses incurred over equal pay cases. Is equal pay a good think or can it have downsides. What's going on here guys, it's all over the news ... Birmingham has loads more famous people who were born there Ozzy Ozborne Richard Hammond Cat Deeley Carl Lewis
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"Reports that Birmingham City Council, home to Noddy Holder and his band called Slade, are effectively bankrupt after losses incurred over equal pay cases. Is equal pay a good think or can it have downsides. What's going on here guys, it's all over the news ... Birmingham has loads more famous people who were born there Ozzy Ozborne Richard Hammond Cat Deeley Carl Lewis
Carl Lewis the sprinter? Born in Birmingham USA?
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"Those ruddy women wanting a fair wage. Look what they've done now... I can't see this thread going down well" You must be new here Tom loves to shit stir on here | |||
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"Those ruddy women wanting a fair wage. Look what they've done now... I can't see this thread going down well You must be new here Tom loves to shit stir on here " AkA reporting the news ... | |||
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"Those ruddy women wanting a fair wage. Look what they've done now... I can't see this thread going down well You must be new here Tom loves to shit stir on here AkA reporting the news ... " | |||
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"A labour run council, that’s not a good sign for the future economy." Local government is very rarely an indicator of how any party will perform nationally. | |||
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"Reports that Birmingham City Council, home to Noddy Holder and his band called Slade, are effectively bankrupt after losses incurred over equal pay cases. Is equal pay a good think or can it have downsides. What's going on here guys, it's all over the news ... Birmingham has loads more famous people who were born there Ozzy Ozborne Richard Hammond Cat Deeley Carl Lewis
Adding Jasper Carrott"You beat me to it!! I even went to the same school that he did! Just a few years later... | |||
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"A labour run council, that’s not a good sign for the future economy." Same old story,experts at wasting other people's money. | |||
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You’ve sunk to a new low with these ‘facts’ Suffolk Tom. | |||
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"A labour run council, that’s not a good sign for the future economy. Local government is very rarely an indicator of how any party will perform nationally." Except when it comes to Labour,spend spend spend spend spend,borrow more,spend spend spend..... | |||
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"A labour run council, that’s not a good sign for the future economy. Same old story,experts at wasting other people's money." What about Thurrock council, which is basically bankrupt too? And broader still, how is the national debt since 2010, anyways? | |||
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"Further evidence that the Daily Mail chat bot is still going strong" Not you again.... | |||
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"Are we really debating equal pay now  oh my crumpets." | |||
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"A labour run council, that’s not a good sign for the future economy. Local government is very rarely an indicator of how any party will perform nationally. Except when it comes to Labour,spend spend spend spend spend,borrow more,spend spend spend....." petty it was under Tory control when this whole mess started labour inherited it and have been trying to deal with it since typical torys | |||
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"Is equal pay a smokescreen ?" No, it's only right and proper that people are paid fairly and equally, irrespective of gender. | |||
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"Reports that Birmingham City Council, home to Noddy Holder and his band called Slade, are effectively bankrupt after losses incurred over equal pay cases. Is equal pay a good think or can it have downsides. What's going on here guys, it's all over the news ... Birmingham has loads more famous people who were born there Ozzy Ozborne Richard Hammond Cat Deeley Carl Lewis "Cat Deeley was born in Sandwell Hospital, West Bromwich. Ape was born there the day before. | |||
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"Tom - you must know the Black Country? It's not Birmingham! . They even have different accents."Is that were the pork scratchings come from? | |||
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"Birmingham is a shit hole run by idiots over spending. Commonwealth games cost £millions and alot of other wasted projects. Caz causing loads not to drive into city centre and shop on line or other centres. Council needs sacking." This is more about the equal pay case and having to basically back pay the best part of 25 years worth to every single woman where there was a discrepancy…. The actual running of the council itself.. there are/were councils in a worse position.. most have already been mentioned… Northamptonshire county council, Kent county council to name but 2… but because almost all of the big offenders were conservative run councils, they were basically bailed out by the government allowing them to borrow on future revenue | |||
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"Those ruddy women wanting a fair wage. Look what they've done now... I can't see this thread going down well You must be new here Tom loves to shit stir on here AkA reporting the news ... "Your reporting is getting sloppy Tom. You haven't mentioned the Catamaran attacked by sharks. Thought animal attack news was your specialist subject. Whats going on..?.. | |||
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"The last 5 years of bankrupt councils: Woking - Lib Dem Thurrock, Northamptonshire - Tory Birmingham, slough, Croydon - Lab All funded by U.K govt grants as well as council tax and commercial rates, but sure, it’s party politics to blame. " Arw we really blaming central fu ding on the failure of 6 local councils? Hundreds of others seem to be managing, or aren't they? | |||
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"The last 5 years of bankrupt councils: Woking - Lib Dem Thurrock, Northamptonshire - Tory Birmingham, slough, Croydon - Lab All funded by U.K govt grants as well as council tax and commercial rates, but sure, it’s party politics to blame. Arw we really blaming central fu ding on the failure of 6 local councils? Hundreds of others seem to be managing, or aren't they?" Did I blame central funding entirely, or are you jumping in with both feet again? | |||
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"The last 5 years of bankrupt councils: Woking - Lib Dem Thurrock, Northamptonshire - Tory Birmingham, slough, Croydon - Lab All funded by U.K govt grants as well as council tax and commercial rates, but sure, it’s party politics to blame. Arw we really blaming central fu ding on the failure of 6 local councils? Hundreds of others seem to be managing, or aren't they? Did I blame central funding entirely, or are you jumping in with both feet again?" There was no feet there. It was a simple question mate. I don't believe I asked if we were blaming them entirely  | |||
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"The last 5 years of bankrupt councils: Woking - Lib Dem Thurrock, Northamptonshire - Tory Birmingham, slough, Croydon - Lab All funded by U.K govt grants as well as council tax and commercial rates, but sure, it’s party politics to blame. " wasn't the working debt created under the tories? Building hotels and shopping malls and expecting to charge London prices ? | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run" I'm guessing you don't pay much attention to politics, or you'd know that this has got nothing to do with being a Labour council. That's just a clear and demonstrable fact. | |||
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"The last 5 years of bankrupt councils: Woking - Lib Dem Thurrock, Northamptonshire - Tory Birmingham, slough, Croydon - Lab All funded by U.K govt grants as well as council tax and commercial rates, but sure, it’s party politics to blame. Arw we really blaming central fu ding on the failure of 6 local councils? Hundreds of others seem to be managing, or aren't they?" Well, no, they're not really managing. There's a growing list of councils in a dire situation and it's getting worse. | |||
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"The last 5 years of bankrupt councils: Woking - Lib Dem Thurrock, Northamptonshire - Tory Birmingham, slough, Croydon - Lab All funded by U.K govt grants as well as council tax and commercial rates, but sure, it’s party politics to blame. Arw we really blaming central fu ding on the failure of 6 local councils? Hundreds of others seem to be managing, or aren't they? Well, no, they're not really managing. There's a growing list of councils in a dire situation and it's getting worse." A growing list of councils who favour 'risky commercial investment' are not managing? That's a massive shock. | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run" When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!” | |||
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"What was the council.that gave millions to some self styled solar panel expert? Who then proceeded to rip them off?" That was Thurrock | |||
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"Well, no, they're not really managing. There's a growing list of councils in a dire situation and it's getting worse. A growing list of councils who favour 'risky commercial investment' are not managing? That's a massive shock." That's not an accurate assessment of the situation. | |||
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"Well, no, they're not really managing. There's a growing list of councils in a dire situation and it's getting worse. A growing list of councils who favour 'risky commercial investment' are not managing? That's a massive shock. That's not an accurate assessment of the situation." Isn't it? Willing to paint a more accurate picture? | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run I'm guessing you don't pay much attention to politics, or you'd know that this has got nothing to do with being a Labour council. That's just a clear and demonstrable fact." Is it. Please continue. | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!” "Why didn't it. Please expand. | |||
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"Well, no, they're not really managing. There's a growing list of councils in a dire situation and it's getting worse. A growing list of councils who favour 'risky commercial investment' are not managing? That's a massive shock. That's not an accurate assessment of the situation. Isn't it? Willing to paint a more accurate picture?" Not really. No one who disagree would accept my 'painting' and no one who agrees would need it. However, 5 mins research into local government funding would be a start. | |||
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"Well, no, they're not really managing. There's a growing list of councils in a dire situation and it's getting worse. A growing list of councils who favour 'risky commercial investment' are not managing? That's a massive shock. That's not an accurate assessment of the situation. Isn't it? Willing to paint a more accurate picture? Not really. No one who disagree would accept my 'painting' and no one who agrees would need it. However, 5 mins research into local government funding would be a start." Ahh, you're one of those 'you're wrong' type of people who offer nothing alternative? Got it | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!”
Why didn't it.
Please expand."“No surprise given it’s Labour run” followed by a list that includes Tory and Lib Dem councils. The Labour dig wasn’t required. Your first point was sufficient and correct. | |||
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"Well, no, they're not really managing. There's a growing list of councils in a dire situation and it's getting worse. A growing list of councils who favour 'risky commercial investment' are not managing? That's a massive shock. That's not an accurate assessment of the situation. Isn't it? Willing to paint a more accurate picture? Not really. No one who disagree would accept my 'painting' and no one who agrees would need it. However, 5 mins research into local government funding would be a start. Ahh, you're one of those 'you're wrong' type of people who offer nothing alternative? Got it "Been in an ongoing discussion with one of those a lot lately | |||
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"Well, no, they're not really managing. There's a growing list of councils in a dire situation and it's getting worse. A growing list of councils who favour 'risky commercial investment' are not managing? That's a massive shock. That's not an accurate assessment of the situation. Isn't it? Willing to paint a more accurate picture? Not really. No one who disagree would accept my 'painting' and no one who agrees would need it. However, 5 mins research into local government funding would be a start. Ahh, you're one of those 'you're wrong' type of people who offer nothing alternative? Got it
Been in an ongoing discussion with one of those a lot lately "I've seen. I was interested in learning but thought 'fuck that' | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!”
Why didn't it.
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“No surprise given it’s Labour run” followed by a list that includes Tory and Lib Dem councils. The Labour dig wasn’t required. Your first point was sufficient and correct."Laboru run councils are usually the ones going bankrupt. Thisn isn't new. | |||
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"Is it a case of a left leaning council paying the price of funding woke projects" What woke projects? | |||
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"Is it a case of a left leaning council paying the price of funding woke projects What woke projects?" Probably means giving equal pay to women. | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!”
Why didn't it.
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“No surprise given it’s Labour run” followed by a list that includes Tory and Lib Dem councils. The Labour dig wasn’t required. Your first point was sufficient and correct.
Laboru run councils are usually the ones going bankrupt. Thisn isn't new."looking at sky news list Hackney. 2000. Labour Northamptonshire. 1998. Tory Slough. 2021. Labour Thurrock. 2022. Tory Croydon. 2022. Labour Northumbria. 2022 labour I think. Working. Tory. Birmingham. 2023. Still unsure who's watch this was on given history. | |||
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"Is it a case of a left leaning council paying the price of funding woke projects What woke projects? Probably means giving equal pay to women." Wasn't it mainly to do with bonus payments? Surely if there are two jobs at the same grade and one gets bonus payments (and the other doesn't) if you want the payments, do the job that is paid them. Don't do the other one then moan. | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!”
Why didn't it.
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“No surprise given it’s Labour run” followed by a list that includes Tory and Lib Dem councils. The Labour dig wasn’t required. Your first point was sufficient and correct.
Laboru run councils are usually the ones going bankrupt. Thisn isn't new."Are they? I know how you like lists out of context so can you provide one now showing all councils that have gone bankrupt and which party was in charge. If the vast majority are Labour then you win | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!”
Why didn't it.
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“No surprise given it’s Labour run” followed by a list that includes Tory and Lib Dem councils. The Labour dig wasn’t required. Your first point was sufficient and correct.
Laboru run councils are usually the ones going bankrupt. Thisn isn't new.
Are they? I know how you like lists out of context so can you provide one now showing all councils that have gone bankrupt and which party was in charge. If the vast majority are Labour then you win "Such a list doesn't exist | |||
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"Is it a case of a left leaning council paying the price of funding woke projects" No. | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!”
Why didn't it.
Please expand.
“No surprise given it’s Labour run” followed by a list that includes Tory and Lib Dem councils. The Labour dig wasn’t required. Your first point was sufficient and correct.
Laboru run councils are usually the ones going bankrupt. Thisn isn't new.
Are they? I know how you like lists out of context so can you provide one now showing all councils that have gone bankrupt and which party was in charge. If the vast majority are Labour then you win
Such a list doesn't exist "Oh yes it does | |||
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"Well, no, they're not really managing. There's a growing list of councils in a dire situation and it's getting worse. A growing list of councils who favour 'risky commercial investment' are not managing? That's a massive shock. That's not an accurate assessment of the situation. Isn't it? Willing to paint a more accurate picture? Not really. No one who disagree would accept my 'painting' and no one who agrees would need it. However, 5 mins research into local government funding would be a start. Ahh, you're one of those 'you're wrong' type of people who offer nothing alternative? Got it
Been in an ongoing discussion with one of those a lot lately
I've seen. I was interested in learning but thought 'fuck that' "You can't be that interested in learning. I told you what to look into - local government funding - and apparently you're unable to spend 5 minutes doing that. I'm one of those 'I don't waste my time spoon feeding other people' types. | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!”
Why didn't it.
Please expand.
“No surprise given it’s Labour run” followed by a list that includes Tory and Lib Dem councils. The Labour dig wasn’t required. Your first point was sufficient and correct.
Laboru run councils are usually the ones going bankrupt. Thisn isn't new.
Are they? I know how you like lists out of context so can you provide one now showing all councils that have gone bankrupt and which party was in charge. If the vast majority are Labour then you win
Such a list doesn't exist
Oh yes it does "Oh no it doesn't | |||
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"Well, no, they're not really managing. There's a growing list of councils in a dire situation and it's getting worse. A growing list of councils who favour 'risky commercial investment' are not managing? That's a massive shock. That's not an accurate assessment of the situation. Isn't it? Willing to paint a more accurate picture? Not really. No one who disagree would accept my 'painting' and no one who agrees would need it. However, 5 mins research into local government funding would be a start. Ahh, you're one of those 'you're wrong' type of people who offer nothing alternative? Got it
Been in an ongoing discussion with one of those a lot lately
I've seen. I was interested in learning but thought 'fuck that'
You can't be that interested in learning. I told you what to look into - local government funding - and apparently you're unable to spend 5 minutes doing that.
I'm one of those 'I don't waste my time spoon feeding other people' types."I've looked into it. You wanna disagree then teach me why I'm wrong. I'm gonna have a wild guess that you're gonna point to the decrease in funding from Central Govt. | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!”
Why didn't it.
Please expand.
“No surprise given it’s Labour run” followed by a list that includes Tory and Lib Dem councils. The Labour dig wasn’t required. Your first point was sufficient and correct.
Laboru run councils are usually the ones going bankrupt. Thisn isn't new.
Are they? I know how you like lists out of context so can you provide one now showing all councils that have gone bankrupt and which party was in charge. If the vast majority are Labour then you win
Such a list doesn't exist
Oh yes it does
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!”
Why didn't it.
Please expand.
“No surprise given it’s Labour run” followed by a list that includes Tory and Lib Dem councils. The Labour dig wasn’t required. Your first point was sufficient and correct.
Laboru run councils are usually the ones going bankrupt. Thisn isn't new.
Are they? I know how you like lists out of context so can you provide one now showing all councils that have gone bankrupt and which party was in charge. If the vast majority are Labour then you win
Such a list doesn't exist
Oh yes it does
Oh no it doesn't
He’s behind you "Oh no he's not
Seriously though, there is no such list.
Why?
Because there are no bankrupt councils. | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!”
Why didn't it.
Please expand.
“No surprise given it’s Labour run” followed by a list that includes Tory and Lib Dem councils. The Labour dig wasn’t required. Your first point was sufficient and correct.
Laboru run councils are usually the ones going bankrupt. Thisn isn't new.
Are they? I know how you like lists out of context so can you provide one now showing all councils that have gone bankrupt and which party was in charge. If the vast majority are Labour then you win
Such a list doesn't exist
Oh yes it does
Oh no it doesn't
He’s behind you
Oh no he's not
Seriously though, there is no such list.
Why?
Because there are no bankrupt councils."But Morley says they are usually Labour so there must be a list and they must be bankrupt right? | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!”
Why didn't it.
Please expand.
“No surprise given it’s Labour run” followed by a list that includes Tory and Lib Dem councils. The Labour dig wasn’t required. Your first point was sufficient and correct.
Laboru run councils are usually the ones going bankrupt. Thisn isn't new.
Are they? I know how you like lists out of context so can you provide one now showing all councils that have gone bankrupt and which party was in charge. If the vast majority are Labour then you win
Such a list doesn't exist
Oh yes it does
Oh no it doesn't
He’s behind you
Oh no he's not
Seriously though, there is no such list.
Why?
Because there are no bankrupt councils.
But Morley says they are usually Labour so there must be a list and they must be bankrupt right?"I guarantee there's no list. This one I'm definitely right on. Not often I can say that | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!”
Why didn't it.
Please expand.
“No surprise given it’s Labour run” followed by a list that includes Tory and Lib Dem councils. The Labour dig wasn’t required. Your first point was sufficient and correct.
Laboru run councils are usually the ones going bankrupt. Thisn isn't new.
Are they? I know how you like lists out of context so can you provide one now showing all councils that have gone bankrupt and which party was in charge. If the vast majority are Labour then you win
Such a list doesn't exist
Oh yes it does
Oh no it doesn't
He’s behind you
Oh no he's not
Seriously though, there is no such list.
Why?
Because there are no bankrupt councils.
But Morley says they are usually Labour so there must be a list and they must be bankrupt right?
I guarantee there's no list. This one I'm definitely right on. Not often I can say that "I think we best ask Morley. He’ll know! | |||
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"The six councils most likely to be next in issuing a section 114 notice, according to the local government source, are Bradford (Bradford), Devon (Conservative), Guildford (Lib Dem since 2023, Conservative 2003-2019), Hastings (Labour), Kent (Conservative), and Southampton (Labour). " Bradford (Labour) | |||
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"Were Noddy Holder and Slade not from Wolverhampton "Overspill of Brum | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!”
Why didn't it.
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“No surprise given it’s Labour run” followed by a list that includes Tory and Lib Dem councils. The Labour dig wasn’t required. Your first point was sufficient and correct."So how many councils under tory vs Labour went bankrupt? | |||
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"No surprise really. Councils are terrible at budgeting and managing their local economy. And no surprise given its labour run When you read this post and then immediately after read FunFella’s post with the list of councils, you can’t help but think “Morley’s post didn’t age well!”
Why didn't it.
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“No surprise given it’s Labour run” followed by a list that includes Tory and Lib Dem councils. The Labour dig wasn’t required. Your first point was sufficient and correct.
So how many councils under tory vs Labour went bankrupt?
"You tell me but based on this thread it isn’t far of 50/50 so the implication of what you said was that only Labour run councils go bankrupt which is demonstrably not true. | |||
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